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Now, you've probably seen all the protest footage out of LA in the wake of Trump's immigration sweeps.
But despite what you're seeing on the news, keep in mind that most of the protesters have come with more of a chill SoCal vibe.
Dancing.
playing music and unleashing these devastating projectiles of
So there's definitely a chance that this can all be resolved peacefully as long as nobody escalates this thing with an unnecessary show of force will be a
President Trump mobilizing 2,000 California National Guard troops against the will of the state's governor.
President Trump ordered the deployment of 2,000 more California National Guard troops, making for a total of 4,000.
Now making the unprecedented move of dispatching 700 active duty Marines to the streets of Los Angeles.
Yes, nothing calms down a situation like a military invasion.
In fact, that was part of my birth plan.
I was like, honey, I want candles, classical music, and 700 armed Marines storming the hospital room.
Also, drugs, lots of drugs.
You know what, scratch that, just the drugs.
You know, I'm...
beginning to wonder if Trump is intentionally trying to escalate this situation because more chaos allows him to portray blue states as centers of crime while positioning himself as a strong man that the country needs to rally around.
No, that's silly.
I'm sure he's just doing what's best for
Although deploying soldiers in an American city could put Trump on the wrong side of the law again.
There is concern over violating the Posse Comitatus Act.
The Posse Comitatus Law says that the U.S.
military cannot engage in police functions on U.S.
soil.
That's right.
Posse Comitatus.
It's a very serious legal principle.
So let's hear more about this very serious legal principle.
Look, I believe strongly in Posse Comitatus.
Trump is truly in violation of pussy coming
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But I did want to mention something, you know, about the protests.
We heard Desi Lydic talking about the military occupation of LA.
But here's the thing, we saw the pictures of the Burning Waymos.
These are the automated taxis that they have there in LA.
And the Waymos, by the way, why were they burning Waymos?
Yeah, why?
They were burning them because they have 360 cameras in them.
In other words, it's used as a surveillance device in
the women's marches and there will hold a flagship kick out the clowns action Yeah, and the greatest
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They skip the S word in the local announcement here.
Over 350 circus actions will take place in all 50 states and will showcase the power of the people and turn satire.
into resistance.
I like that idea.
You know, the activists will wear clown costumes in protest and what they call the Trump administration's clown show fascism with the goal of setting a record for the most circuses held on a single day.
There you
So it has been debated over these many years, right?
Like 50 years, 40 years, they've been debating this thing.
So what happened?
They, they snuck in and redid highway M from Middleton to Westport.
Okay.
And they rebuilt it.
And that should have been the North Belt line, but instead they built a Boulevard, which is nice and everything, but goodbye.
possibility of a north belt line.
Well, maybe
And then it goes to this new
Boulevard that they put in Wow, man, they just oh They they usurped the public on this one and I'm really angry about it.
It's real nice.
It's gorgeous You know speed limits like you know minor 35 or 40 miles per hour, which is ridiculous still slow But they have all these nice little bike lanes and little walking
We need another belt line.
We do need another belt line.
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Really?
Okay.
I know there are freeways out there.
Okay.
Well, thank you for bringing up that issue.
I didn't know that was such a thing that's near and dear to your heart.
They snuck rebuilding how we am up there.
They didn't sneak it in.
They knew about it.
No one knew what was going on.
They got public meetings and they had all kinds of masks and everything.
No one knew what was happening.
They did know they knew.
They made
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Good morning, guys.
Yeah, I hope it's all right.
Perfect stuff.
And it's kind of cloudy out here this morning.
It's muggy.
It's horrible.
Dew points are right about 60, I think.
Wow.
Yeah.
So it starts to get a little little humid.
So what can we expect for the rest of today?
We got the Madison Night Market tonight.
And I heard there might be a couple of sprinkles, but nothing really.
All that awful, right?
Well, no, probably not.
It shouldn't be too bad.
Oh, really?
I think the
worst.
Yeah, the worst is gonna be if you get anything this morning, right?
You've got that little swath moving in from the west that could graze you here still this morning, but by about 10 to 11 o'clock, I think it's gonna...
Fizzle out, start to lift north.
Honestly, leave you with just mostly cloudy skies today, probably highs in those mid to upper 70s.
And then the storms should hold off until overnight, probably after midnight around 2 AM or so.
I think those are going to roll through.
But again, more chances for showers and storms by Friday afternoon.
That continues into the evening and we kind of get a little damp and dreary early Saturday before this whole system shifts on out of here.
So
this morning, Friday afternoon and evening, and then maybe Saturday morning are probably your best shots for chances of brain.
Well, that's that's we'll take that.
Well, there's an air quality index alert out there It's it's at low 60 to 79 which is near the worst you could get and it's people with lung disease such as asthma children older adults and outdoor workers should reduce their prolonged Exposure to the outdoors today
Okay.
Yes, unfortunately.
It's pretty thick up north, but it's starting to sneak down by you a little bit.
We're in an air quality alert.
It's very unhealthy up here, but it should be gone by this afternoon.
It should ease probably around two o'clock.
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asked
Congress.
Mr. Coop.
probably won't surprise you, but I'm going to start with Ukraine.
And I'm going to ask you a series of questions that I don't want you to linger on any one of them, but answer the series of questions in one answer.
Number one, who's the aggressor and who's the victim in the conflict?
Russia's the aggressor.
Which
side do you want to win?
As we've said time and time again,
this president is committed to peace in that conflict.
Ultimately peace serves our national interests and we think the interest of both parties even if that outcome will not be preferable to many in this room and many in our country.
You know, you could hope that they win, but actually wouldn't it be nice to have the alternative in that it's peace through negotiations.
Right?
So anyway, he couldn't say something as simple as that.
Instead would not say that Trump wants Ukraine to win.
That is their position on this thing.
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It's cloudy this morning.
We'll see a little bit of sunshine along the way.
Maybe a sprinkler too.
Highs in the mid 70s this afternoon.
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We are joined now by attorney Jim Santel.
Good morning, Jim.
Good to have you back with us.
Always good to see you.
It
Rally is throughout the United States, including right here in Wisconsin, Madison, all cities and beyond in Milwaukee.
There was one downtown in the east side at Cathedral Square as goes from 12 to two.
And after I'm finished with a certain radio program in the morning that we broadcast from our scene and happens to be on this wonderful civic media broadcast entity, I'm going to come back to Milwaukee in about 1250 or so is when I'm
I'm speaking but the entire program begins at noon time on Saturday.
As it does in many other venues throughout the state,
So here in Madison, we're expecting 15,000 people at the No Kings protest.
And as you mentioned, there's about 50 other protests around Wisconsin, around Madison area, McFarland, Stoughton, they're going to have protests, also Monroe, Nuglaris,
Jamesville, Baraboo, Dodgeville.
The list goes on and on.
This is going to be a huge day all across the country, more than 1,500 or 1,600 protests coast to coast.
That's
of what
day.
I love it.
To follow up on the messaging there, in addition to clowns, which is again a humorous but also a serious way of responding to what's going on in America right now, you recognize also that it's no king's concept ultimately comes from something almost a year ago, right?
When the United States Supreme Court, while Joe Biden was still the president, articulated for the first time in our nation's history this notion that our presidents are in fact immune from criminal prosecution, but more than that.
have this tremendous power.
You've got to be muscular.
You've got to be deaf.
You've got to be able to not be feeble and act very, very quickly and aggressively.
That was John Roberts who told us that on July 1 of 2024, Donald Trump gets elected and
Again, it takes that up.
He's probably not intellectually acute enough to realize that that's what he's doing But but the reality is our Supreme Court gave him this authority to do that And so let's talk about that as well as Supreme Court is also doing things contrary to what has been the tradition in our nation for 239 years.
Yeah
By the way,
Lake joins us.
We didn't mention this before.
Jim, it's so nice to talk to you.
Just before we came on the air, Pam Yankee did a farm report, and it was, I just heard the beginning of it, and it was talking about the fact that farm workers, of course, a lot of migrant workers in Wisconsin, are naturally feeling
nervous and don't want to be picked up.
I have a friend who lost an uncle in Milwaukee, got deported, not a migrant worker, but still anybody of Hispanic or Latino heritage is notably and understandably nervous.
But Pam was saying, Pam Yankee was saying, our farm director, that the farmers are communicating well with their people saying, we got your back.
We're not going to let this happen here.
But in LA, of course, that's what they're going after, migrant workers, right?
Mostly in LA.
So what's to stop him from doing the same thing there that he did here?
Absolutely.
And that's the concern.
Again, to make this about a judicial order, there's this wonderful opinion that we talked about a couple of weeks ago.
of a judge named Wilkinson who raises Catherine exactly that issue.
He is responding to the abrigo Garcia deportation, which we all know too much and too well in America.
We should.
And we should not have to focus on these kinds of things.
But again, Judge Wilkinson says precisely that, Catherine.
He says, you know, if you go after people, again, without due process, without giving them the normal course of judicial review that we would get under any other circumstance, any other prior president, including Barack Obama, including all the others who proceeded.
This president if you go down that road, what is to stop you from then going after anyone else political enemies people who articulate things Oh say on a radio program that are not Especially a music to the ears of the president.
What is to stop that and that's the great concern and when you when you step forward and you you protest and you exercise Your first amendment right to push back on that.
What do we get?
We get the Marines who are called in
Maggie, use that term all the time.
Hair on fire, hair on fire.
And now we know that they actually did do that for sure.
manipulating it.
They're doing things with it, right?
I don't even know what I'm talking
No, that's true.
You know exactly what you're talking about, Catherine.
That's exactly it.
So again, a couple of additional reasons to be outraged.
This was last Friday when the Supreme Court again, in this shadow docket, we don't get any explanation from John Roberts.
We don't get the usual exposition of why we're doing this.
We simply get an order that says, well, let them go ahead and do their work.
That's as close as we come from the Supreme Court describing the access.
And even while the underlying litigation is going on about whether or not they're long-term entitled to this, Supreme Court again granting this emergency application from the administration says, we've got to go in right now.
Bad things will happen if we do not get in this information.
What that is, we do not know.
And as of Monday, Catherine, you're just right, John Gordy.
We've got access going in because the Supreme Court, my six of them have once again said, go ahead and take a look at all
I can't imagine.
The genie's out of the box.
Well, yeah.
The whole thing here is that opens the door for all the other departments as well.
And they've already taken that information.
Then we hear, of course, about Palantir coalescing all this data into one solid.
administrative action and then all of a sudden now we can do anything we want.
We can find out where people live, how they vote, what they buy, what they're into.
We could use that against them.
It's so scary that this is going on and we've got two, what, three and a half years of developing this and putting it into place.
What does that term shadow docket do you use?
What does that mean?
So this once again, this is the continuing complaint.
It has been used by private administrations.
It's this notion that while the lower courts, the district courts, the appeals courts, which again is a part of our process, while they're litigating, what happens is the government, in this case, your attorney general, your solicitor general, jumps to the Supreme Court and says, while that's still being decided, this is so important.
This is so important.
Stop any injunction from going in place.
Let us go ahead and do this.
Let the litigation go ahead.
But while those claims are being adjudicated, tell these folks that they can go in and do these kinds of things.
That's the emergency application, the shadow docket.
Why, Catherine?
Because it doesn't come.
It doesn't come with the long 25, 30 page opinions where we may disagree.
But at least we've got an exposition about why.
And again, last Friday, we've got a few paragraphs to your good points.
However, you also have, interestingly, a seven, eight-page dissent by the three justices.
We know who they are.
It's Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor, Katanji Jackson.
And to the point you're just making about why this is important.
Here is what what she says and it's accurate.
She's providing information about why this is important.
She says, you know We know well that Americans and trust their information to this government agency its social security numbers birth dates addresses yeah bank account numbers medical records She says everybody's got a social security number in the the the SSA data is now exposed beyond the identification numbers also also
detailed medical history, prescriptions, mental health treatments, testing results from applicants and beneficiaries.
She goes on.
And that's just one paragraph in this very long descent.
Again, her hair appropriately on fire saying, this is what's happening.
now, and they've got it as a Monday morning.
just
They're going to come out with rapid fire speed here.
Remember, we've got birthright citizenship.
That's going to be coming out.
We're going to be told whether or not the 14th Amendment means what it's meant for the past 150 years or so.
We've got this issue having to do with school, children's school books in Maryland, whether or not parents can stop children from being exposed to heaven forbid, LGBT stories,
those
We've got issues related to
whether or not transgender medical care can be provided to youths.
Again, that's out there.
Many other things coming up, and likely those will be divisive cases, likely six to three opinions coming out.
We have had a few recently, unanimous opinions, including one coming out of Wisconsin, I mean, do with Catholic Charities, but I suspect those days are somewhat over, at least for this term, and very soon we're gonna get this flurry of other matters.
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What is it?
It's family.
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Family.
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to your your questions tomorrow because we don't have time we've got a few things to talk to Jim about he has amicus a law review on Saturday mornings not
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He takes all the current cases and talks about them on his show.
And we've got him here this morning answering a few other questions.
And one of the big things that's coming up, the federal judge has greenlit a lawsuit challenging Elon Musk's position, the federal government, and doge as unconstitutional, okay?
You know, being a position.
that you actually objected to.
I didn't even think about the name Doge.
You said the D stands for department.
It ain't no
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
And again, it's it's the shorthand.
And so it's an easy way to refer to Elon Musk.
I call him the musk team and the musk group just because my my internal barometer tells me it's not a department that D of Doge is not real.
What are real departments from the agriculture state commerce labor justice.
And where do they all come from?
They're created by let's all say it together, the United States Congress, right.
And they're your legislators, they put
into place as president at some point signs that legislation creates them, even the department of education.
Mr. President was created by the Congress and you can bring it down another point.
Here we've got, okay, we wake up one morning back on January 20th or 21st and we say, let's put together a new unit of, we'll call it a department because it elevated then to that level of legitimacy, which it doesn't have.
We'll bring in all these people, we'll get them special assignments for a while.
I wonder to this day whether any of them have gotten background checks, which is what all of the other millions of government employees need to undergo.
And we let them loose, not only in the Social Security Administration, other places.
But we do that, again, without the institutional, the basic constitutional trappings that attend to every other entity inside the government, even independent agencies like the Federal Reserve and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, creations of what?
the Congress.
Show me the legislation that creates this must group that is now rampaging through our government.
And therefore, absent that, that is the challenge that you're just talking about now, going into court and saying, putting aside all the outrageous things they're doing, how are they doing this?
What is their authority?
And the answer should be none.
And yet, we've got a Supreme Court again, as we said in the previous segment last Friday, who's saying,
We're not even going to address that.
Go ahead and take a look at all this information.
It is a
Yeah, not all attorneys have your history.
You're a US attorney.
This must make your head just explode.
It does and there's so many things inside government justice and partner justice that I look at on a daily basis.
This is one of them where you think about all of the the appropriate limitations on access as an assistant U.S.
Attorney as the United States Attorney you are reviewed you are examined you are your tax returns your bank documents before they will give you an authorization to enter court to do anything
And now in the past four and a half months, we've got just the opposite.
It does make my head spin in terms of the way that we have done things now.
We don't care about any of that.
it
I was a horrible handyman.
It was terrible.
But it was fun.
It was across the street from where I live.
So I was fine with that.
But anyway, yeah, it drives me crazy because I was with the Census Bureau as well.
And they check your background, everything.
They really know who you are.
And all of that is.
Personal information which they put under lock and key at the government and to have this happen the public doesn't
one.
What are you, Spider-Man?
What is going on?
You're wearing
t-shirt.
You wear your
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