Madison Night Market Madness

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Madison Night Market Madness

John & Gordy · Fri May 9, 2025

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John (host)

Next, 92.7.

This is the John and Gordy extravaganza, the place to be.

It's the hullabaloo, it's the shindig.

Yes, it's the mad pad.

It is.

Overlooking State Street, just

Gordy (host)

a block away from the Capitol.

Yes, the site of the Madison Night Market last night, there were thousands of people

John (host)

out

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on the street.

It was fantastic.

John (host)

Looks like the Mardi Gras out there.

I mean, it's such a huge mess to clean up.

Gordy (host)

Actually, it's completely clean

John (host)

out

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there this morning.

They have a great cleanup crew.

Yeah, it was kind of like the Mardi Gras.

I saw my neighbors there who spent a lot of

John (host)

time in New Orleans.

Oh, no, I

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missed them.

They were there before you got there.

John (host)

They

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stopped by.

They said they brought back all kinds of beads for the gazebo

John (host)

in my backyard.

Did they ask you

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to take off your shirt?

No, they didn't.

John (host)

No, they

Gordy (host)

didn't.

Somehow, they did not do that.

John (host)

You know what

Sam (regular contributor or guest)

they're

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doing.

Sam (regular contributor or guest)

Oh, you're right.

I forgot

John (host)

at

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first, but then I put two and two together.

John (host)

Oh, OK.

Yeah.

Well, it's better than, you know, show us your, you know.

Right.

That's what they really say.

OK.

Yeah, it was a lot of fun last night.

It was a good

Gordy (host)

time.

And we met a lot of people and saw some old friends.

And it was wonderful.

It was.

It was.

And we'll have another Madison Night Market coming up in June.

Not sure.

John (host)

Is

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that right?

Yes.

Well, it goes June.

Yeah, it goes all the way through.

Well,

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just about a month from now,

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right?

Yeah, just about a month from now.

Every month.

That's right.

Yeah.

So happy Friday, the 10th day of May.

It's a little

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chilly

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out there

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this morning.

It is again.

You

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know, I think we have a frost advisory till 8 a.m.

But looks like on our WMDX thermometer outside

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the

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WMDX window, it's 36 degrees already downtown.

What is your WMDX watch

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say?

Watch is about at the Samsung Watch.

It's always on top of this.

So the WMDX Samsung watch indicates that it's about 36 degrees right now.

Oh, we agree.

Little ice on the puddles out there.

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Crystal.

Okay.

Good morning, John and Gordy and Sam from Sherry and Horicon.

John (host)

Oh yeah, Sherry.

Yeah, we haven't heard from Sherry in a while.

I think she's been on vacation.

Oh, okay.

You know what

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really surprised me about the night market last night?

John (host)

What was

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that?

John (host)

How

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many listeners and how many

fans we had show up to our booth.

I never expected to have a fan club surrounding us.

John (host)

But it's great.

It's great that they listen to the other announcers on the station, but no one gets up early enough to hear John and Gordy.

I feel kind of left out.

People sleep in nowadays.

Yeah, what is that?

I don't everybody's doing that.

That's why these morning shows are so difficult to operate

Gordy (host)

Hey today is the first Friday of the free ticket Friday

giveaway.

We have a four pack of Brewer tickets we'll be giving away.

And we'll tell you more about that as we go along in just a few minutes.

Hire on 74 today, by the way.

74?

Yeah.

Okay.

Sam (regular contributor or guest)

We didn't even get to use the machines.

Well, we can just gave it away to us.

Well, we can.

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No,

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that's a Samsung watch.

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Yeah, let's see what it's time for the lottery balls, right?

Let's get the

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balls out.

I feel like they have to pay me for this.

I'll get hold of Samsung getting all this free advertising says a six.

Uh-huh.

Second ball.

Come on.

It's a nine.

We got to grease up this machine.

It's not work.

You grease your balls.

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Okay.

Get the WD-40.

That stuff

John (host)

works for everything.

Well, anyway, it's a little low.

I still think 74 degrees feels like it could be the actual temperature high today.

How about the sunset?

Let's look at the sunset today.

OK, let's look at that.

And that

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will be at 808.

808.

OK.

All right, good to know eight.

Oh, I'm writing that down.

I don't want to miss it.

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Definitely bring that up a few times on the

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program.

A little bit later, Rocker will be in because it's Friday and we'll have the Max Ink preview.

That'll be a lot of fun, a lot of local music to catch

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up on.

Yeah, a little bit later on after seven o'clock, we'll talk a little bit about the pulp.

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Yeah, there's a new pope, Pope Leo.

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The 14th.

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14th Leo.

Yeah.

It's from Chicago.

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He

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is.

Yeah.

South Cider.

White Sox fan.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Somebody originally had said he was a Cubs fan, but I had to be corrected immediately.

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Yeah, that was his mother apparently was a Cubs fan.

John (host)

Very strange, isn't it?

I mean, you know, very, very

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specific.

First Pope from the USA.

Yeah.

So, you know, see what that's all about.

He speaks like four or five languages.

I know.

John (host)

I

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know.

It's

John (host)

amazing.

Yeah.

Okay.

We've got a whole bit on that from the Daily Show.

Excellent.

And I'm going to rely on them for all the drop-ins.

I normally put a little, you know, a few boisers in here, but she has them all.

Desi Elidic does a bit on it.

Excellent.

They're on top of these things.

Have you noticed?

I know they are.

Yes.

Well, they are they.

Yes.

They get the stuff done in a couple of hours and put it out there.

Maybe I'm just easily satisfied with, you know, kind of so, so humor.

Well,

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it's a big worldwide story.

I'm sure they had extra people on alert, you

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know,

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waiting to see if that white smoke would come out, come out of the chimney.

You can't, you can't stop the comics.

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Boy, they know how to.

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Yeah, right a good joke right on it.

Okay Let's check the calendar and see what days it may be.

John (host)

Yeah, what is it

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today?

Show me your note.

Stay away from the screen Is it or is it not national knockout rose day?

Is it or is it not national board game day?

National sleepover day.

Is it that is it national alphabet magnet day?

National want to have a catch day.

National clean up your room day.

Or national lipid, lipid day.

Which one of those days does not belong, John Peterson?

John (host)

National lipid day.

You're wrong.

It is.

You know.

Right there.

I'm looking at it.

Yes, the high density and low density lipids we must celebrate.

We'll get to lipids in a

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moment.

Sam, do you have a guess or did you snooze your way through this?

My guess is

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not

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board game

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day.

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You're

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correct.

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Oh, all right.

Wow.

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Gee, I thought I hid that one pretty well, but okay.

You're right on

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top of it.

You did.

I would have said that too, except my son has developed a new board game.

Oh, yes.

They're going to market it eventually.

Really?

Yes.

And then we'll kick him out of the house.

But, but yeah, he's got one.

What's a kind of role-playing

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board game?

John (host)

Do you have a name

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for it or do you not want to say it because it's so good?

John (host)

It's a trade secret.

It's a trade secret.

You can't, you can't tell anybody.

Okay.

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Okay.

It's national lipid day.

There's a lot of long medical terms in this.

So I'm not going to go deep into the weeds on it, but it's national lipid day each year brings awareness to.

Sam, dyslipidemia.

Does that sound like a word to you?

Dyslipidemia is an abnormal amount of lipids, which, you know, cholesterol or fat in the blood.

In developed countries, most dyslipidemias and hyperdyslipidemia, oh boy, just observed lipid day

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today.

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Okay, let's move on.

I'm not good.

This is so, wow.

It's national clean up your room day.

Yeah, do you have a bedroom that just is just clothes laying all over the place and your bed is unmade and all that stuff?

Well, today's the day out of the whole year.

You should clean up your room.

John (host)

Oh,

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yeah.

You should actually do it every day.

But, you know, a lot of people don't.

John (host)

Well, you're talking to the kids at home, but, you know, those kids who are in apartments,

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you

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know, clean up your damn apartment.

Clean up your damn room.

Wow.

Sometimes, you know, he just, I told you the story about the guy who had beer bottles, didn't I?

Remember know what yeah, you know, I do the census and I go into people's homes sometimes and yeah, and this kid downtown Apparently likes to drink out of a bottle and when I got in there he has all the bottles upright.

Yeah on the floor just

All bottles.

There's no floor.

It's just all bottles, you know, and he can't walk into the room.

He's created pathways.

No kidding.

No, I'm not kidding.

This was in the kids room.

No, this.

Well, this is the apartment.

OK.

Yeah.

A student apartment down here.

Oh, man.

And yeah, there are bottles all over the damn place on the counter tops everywhere.

That's nuts.

Sam (regular contributor or guest)

That's, like, impressive.

That's

John (host)

what I thought, too.

I thought, wow, this is really impressive.

Weird and bad.

All at the same time.

You know, I hope somewhere along the way he kind of rinsed the bottles out before he lined them up on the floor.

You would hope.

Yikes.

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Well, anyway, it's National Cleanup Your Room

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Day, so

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spring cleaners get their wish granted each year on National Cleanup Your Room Day on May 10th.

Children often dread this parent-appreciated day.

Though some years the observance arrives with perfect timing for Mother's Day.

See, that's there's a tie into Mother's Day.

John (host)

Oh, yeah.

Mom will be happy.

Mom will be happy.

Gordy (host)

Yeah.

Did you have to clean up your room a lot as a kid?

Were you messy?

John (host)

No, I was pretty clean.

Pretty clean.

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Sam, how about you?

Do you have to share your room with your brother?

For a

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big chunk of it, yeah, until I was like 11 or 12, I

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had to

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share a room with my brother.

You know hippie Christmas is going on right now

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right now

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all of the students are moving

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out of UW Yeah, we're all cleaning out their rooms.

Yes, okay Well, it's also national want to have a catch day if you like, you know your baseball That was the time to get out the baseball glove and have a catch with your dad or your mom or whoever

John (host)

the saddest thing about

kind of giving up the old glove is just, I mean, you put so much time into buying just the right glove and then seasoning it, right, oiling it and creating that perfect pocket where the ball just kind of falls right into it, no matter how hard it's hit, no matter how high it is, you just really grab that thing, it falls right into the glove.

And then you just have to kind of give it up eventually.

Put it away.

It just sits there.

It's kind of sad.

It is.

It is.

There should be a National Gloves Preservation Day.

John,

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why don't we play

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catch someday?

If your kids won't play

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catch with you, I'll play catch with

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you.

Oh,

Sam (regular contributor or guest)

no, that sounds great,

John (host)

man.

Well, we could all go out on the states street.

We could

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go out to states

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right out here.

Yeah, we

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have

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the Johnny Gory balls.

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Let's bring our goals.

Yeah, we do.

It's National Knockout Rose Day.

If you're into roses, I guess this is a day for you.

Friday before Mother's Day.

Plant those roses.

National sleepover day.

So, um,

John (host)

I

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guess you can observe that if you want to.

Yeah.

And that's it.

Oh, National alphabet magnet day.

Oh, yeah.

John (host)

We

Gordy (host)

should have been talking about that all this time.

That's a picture of a refrigerator, call it.

covered with alphabets.

Brief here, a brief time for history, Sam.

Oh, sure, why not?

Because we have Pam Yonkey, I believe.

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That's

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right, Pam's

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coming up in just a bit.

Well, you mentioned Mother's Day.

Today in 1914, the very first Mother's Day was celebrated when Woodrow Wilson proclaimed

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it.

Really,

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1914?

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That's right,

Sam (regular contributor or guest)

yeah.

John (host)

Today in

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1960, the FD, what?

What's so funny, John?

John (host)

I'm reading Doug's text to us.

He says, it's replaced Doug with AI Day today.

Oh, that's great.

He says, I can't believe you guys did this.

Yesterday I woke up, turned on the show only to find out on air that you were replacing me with AI.

I mean, you could have called.

Sorry, Doug.

We're

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so sorry, Doug.

Surprise.

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Yeah.

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Anything else you want to mention for history?

Yeah, last thing here.

Sam (regular contributor or guest)

Today in 1964, Louis Armstrong unseated the Beatles after they had held the number one spot on the Billboard charts for three and a half months with Hello Dolly.

Wow.

Didn't that sound

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good?

All right, Pam Yockeys right around the corner on John and Gordon.

John (co-host)

WMDX 92.7.

John and Gordon in the morning.

Beautiful, beautiful

Gordon (co-host)

sunny day so far.

It's cool in Madison 36 degrees.

Some areas are even in the low 30s or even upper 20s.

A little frost advisory out there till eight o'clock.

Highs today in the low 70s.

And Pam Yankee joins us on the phone this morning.

Good morning, Pam.

Good morning

Pam Yankee (guest)

fellas.

Yeah, it is beautiful morning.

I mean, I'm on the west side of Madison right now and not not any frost in sight here, but some folks on my talk text line this morning sent pictures of frost on their truck tops and roof tops, so it's out there.

John (co-host)

Wow, that must be in northern Wisconsin, right?

Or is that near here?

Pam Yankee (guest)

Tachita.

Oh,

John (co-host)

Tachita.

Tachita, yeah.

Tachita.

Okay.

Well, you know some people in Tachita.

Pam Yankee (guest)

I just remember remember Bambi

That's the only reason I know Tate Cheetah.

Gordon (co-host)

Me too.

John (co-host)

Boy, that's

Gordon (co-host)

a name from the past.

Why do I know that name?

What was she famous for?

Pam Yankee (guest)

Well, she was a cop that killed her boyfriend or somebody and ended up in Tate Cheetah.

Then she broke out and remember they started that song, Run Bambi Run.

John (co-host)

That's right.

Yes.

That was great memory.

Yeah,

Pam Yankee (guest)

those were the days.

You never know what you're gonna get.

All

John (co-host)

right, let's talk let's talk cows.

Okay, because that's what it's all about here in Wisconsin kids and cows.

Okay,

Pam Yankee (guest)

it's a it's a pretty cool program.

I've been watching it for a couple years now.

The formal name is adopt the cow and it is handled through our dairy farmers of Wisconsin and what it does is pair classrooms

with kids from all across Wisconsin and even outside of Wisconsin with dairy farms.

And what they do is follow the life of a baby calf from essentially birth to six months of age.

And last year, we've been doing it in Wisconsin about five years.

Last year, more than 55,000 school kids in over 1800 classrooms in Wisconsin and beyond.

followed these baby calves and so what the dairy farmers do is share videos and pictures at least on a monthly basis if not more often the kids

can virtually meet with the farmers uh if they're close enough they can come out to the farm and i'm telling you these kids become absolutely fascinated with these baby calves they get a chance well they can get involved in trying to name them then they send the baby calves birthday cards they send the baby calves christmas cards they send they they just get very very engaged

with following these calves.

And right now, they're looking for the 2026 dairy farms that want to participate.

Any dairy farm is welcome.

Doesn't matter what cattle, you know, what dairy cattle you have, Holstein, Guernsey, Jersey, whatever it is.

And it doesn't matter the size of the farm, you just have to basically be able to commit to taking pictures of the calves or videos of the calves

to share with the kids and really be ready for an awful lot of question answer.

Because as you can imagine, I think that age group that they're striking for are fourth graders.

And as you can imagine, a lot of question, question, question about everything from how do you feed them, how do you.

How do you take care of them?

Where do they go to the bathroom?

I mean, you're going to get everything.

But it has turned into be, I just love to hear the stories about how engaged the kids get.

And then after a while, even the teachers are engaged in the process because some of the calves may now be the mothers of some of the new calves and some of the teachers that have done it for the past five years kind of get involved in that story too.

So it's pretty cool.

You can see those.

How

John (co-host)

many kids are traumatized by watching the birth of

Pam Yankee (guest)

a cat?

It might just be a still picture right after yeah, baby's on the ground But you can check it out at discovered dairy.

No, yeah discovered dairy

All

John (co-host)

right, well, while we're on the subject here, why don't we talk about beef?

There was a UK deal done yesterday, big announcement, and we're going to export some beef in this country.

But I always thought that because of the high price of beef, that we didn't have a lot of beef around here.

What's going on?

Pam Yankee (guest)

Yeah, so what we're focused in on is just that it's the beginning of, I guess we'll call it compromise.

So Wall Street really rallied hard yesterday.

It's not doing that quite so much this morning, but agriculture has got a couple of key.

ingredients in the conversation with the United Kingdom.

So the first item is 13,000 metric ton of US beef that would be allowed into the UK without tariffs.

Now your points well taken that beef here in the United States is at a premium because our cattle numbers are just not real robust.

What is different about many of our international markets is they're looking for different types of beef than we want in the United States.

For example, things like tripe, the stomach of an animal.

We call these variety meats.

Tongue, some of that type of thing, are much more attractive

in international markets than they are here in the United States.

And that is some of the 13,000 metric ton that would be sought after in the United Kingdom.

So we're not sending them our prime rib per se.

We're not sending them our whole meat, muscle meats generally, but it would be the variety meats.

We call them the hearts.

some of those kinds of things that are not necessarily as lucrative in the United States, but hold higher value in the United Kingdom.

The other items that were on the tariff free list include ethanol.

That would be zero tariffs and dairy exports.

We got to keep an eye on 19.5 million dollars of dairy exports went to the United Kingdom last year alone and we still don't know where that stands.

Gordon (co-host)

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

It looks like a great market for ethanol anyway.

All right.

Well, Pam, thank you very much.

You have a great day,

Pam Yankee (guest)

great

Gordon (co-host)

weekend.

We'll talk to you next week.

Yeah.

Looks good.

You too.

All right.

Thanks, Pam.

That's Pam Yankee.

The Midwest Farm Report, actually, is coming up next.

Everything about food and farm and getting it to your table.

And coming up in our next hour, Rocker will be joining us about an hour from now.

Idiocracy's

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Max Inc.

review.

Yes.

Idiocracy right around the corner.

And the free ticket Friday Brewers ticket giveaway coming up.

I'm gonna see you soon.

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635, chilly this morning, low 30s, highs in the low 70s today, beautiful sunshine all day long.

And it's Friday.

It's the first Friday of our free ticket Friday giveaway of Brewers tickets, a four pack of tickets.

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right?

Well, this was kind of a shocker if

You may have heard this story earlier in the week.

Well, here it is.

The insurrectionist traders are now working for Homeland Security and ICE.

House Republicans just voted, of course, to allow the January 6 insurrectionists to work at the Department of Homeland Security.

It sounds like a great idea, doesn't it?

Oh, yeah.

What a deal.

Yeah, the people who attack the Capitol are now part of the federal government and working for ICE and the...

Department of Homeland Security, I don't know.

I just don't trust them.

For some reason, I just don't think this is right.

A call is coming from inside the fascist house that we have here.

You know, this is Trump's big idea.

It's just fair, right?

Well, we have a Democrat who doesn't think it's exactly the thing we should do, and this is Representative Dan Goldman, his reaction to this.

Representative Dan Goldman (Interviewee)

Sure, I understand what this bill is talking about.

Is it true that the Department of Homeland Security is charged with keeping our homeland safe?

Yes.

And so would we want people convicted of invading the most sacred monument in our homeland to

be then responsible for keeping our homeland safe?

Is that what this bill prevents?

Unknown Speaker

That's what this bill prevents, Mr. Goldman.

Gordy (Co-Host)

Oh, thank

Representative Dan Goldman (Interviewee)

you.

You're back.

Gordy (Co-Host)

Yeah, who is that respond?

Is that Pam Bondi?

I mean, sounds crazy enough to be Pam Bondi.

She's crazy.

Either Pam Bondi

John (Co-Host)

or Homeland Security.

Gordy (Co-Host)

Well,

John (Co-Host)

Tom Holman, that's... No, there's

Gordy (Co-Host)

another one.

John (Co-Host)

Kristi,

Gordy (Co-Host)

no?

Christie gnome.

Yeah, maybe it is.

I think that's yeah.

All right.

John (Co-Host)

Yeah

Gordy (Co-Host)

That's right.

Yeah, that's right.

Hey, doesn't that make sense?

Oh You should be happy I guess there were a few comments on this you can't be law enforcement or work for federal agencies if you're a felon held you can't even work for ice

If you have bad credit, they're rewarding terrorists.

I've been screened at least a couple of times when I worked for the Veterans Department.

And now as a census

John (Co-Host)

taker,

Gordy (Co-Host)

I was screened extensively.

They ask you about your record and everything, screening tickets and all that stuff.

Unknown Speaker

So

Gordy (Co-Host)

these people who broke into the Capitol, yeah, it's okay.

It's all right.

They were victims, as you know, anyway.

Oh, sure.

And here's another answer.

With felonies on their record, white privilege just to found another gear.

So, yeah, I guess so.

I guess so.

Unbelievable.

That's because it's part of idiocracy.

This is what the program is all about.

Well,

John (Co-Host)

that's a good name for it

Gordy (Co-Host)

because that's crazy.

But this isn't crazy.

Finally, there's a little sanity in all of this district judge barrel Howell ruled using the powers of the federal government to target lawyers for their representation of clients and a vowed aggressive unemployment policies rather in an overt attempt to suppress and punish certain viewpoints is wrong However, it is contrary to the Constitution which requires that the government respond to dissenting or unpopular speech or ideas with tolerance not coercion

And the judge found that the executive order violates the first, fifth, and sixth amendments of the Constitution when they went out and started targeting law firms and forcing them to do pro bono work for them.

Yeah, well, they expect to use that a lot.

I think they're already using it.

Are they what, up to a billion dollars in free lawyer services at this point?

In over 200 lawsuits against

John (Co-Host)

the Trump

Gordy (Co-Host)

administration

John (Co-Host)

since he took

Gordy (Co-Host)

office.

200.

The judge said this, if the founding history of this country is any guide, those who stood up in court to vindicate constitutional rights and by doing so served to promote the rule of law will be the models lauded when

this period of American history is written.

So, yeah, it's one of those things, you know, if you, if you stand up and you fight against something like this, you might even make it into the history books as heroes.

All right, why don't we get to John Stewart cut y'all set with that?

Sure.

I sure think so.

I thought you fell asleep.

I

Unknown Speaker

didn't realize you were talking to me at first.

Why

Gordy (Co-Host)

don't we check this out?

I'm playing this because there was some confusion over the lightsaber colors that Pete Hagseth and Donald Trump had in their hands.

You gotta

Unknown Speaker

do

Gordy (Co-Host)

this the right way.

When you're putting out these AI-produced

Unknown Speaker

pictures of

Gordy (Co-Host)

themselves as these fighters for freedom.

They had the wrong colors for the lightsabers.

Let's check this out, Dom.

Unknown Speaker

The volatility of nonsense from consequential to truly disorienting is unfathomable.

While we're chasing Pope and Alcatraz stories, the Trump administration has gutted funding for America's food banks.

They've hollowed out the FAA to the point where Newark Airport is basically inoperable and not in its usual way.

And

then there's this.

Health and Human Services Secretary RFK Jr.

laid off nearly all workers at the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health.

The program offers monitoring and treatment for first responders and survivors diagnosed with 9-11 related health conditions.

Do you know how bad you have to be to make the lives of sick 9-11 responders worse?

The Trump administration is now number two on the 9-11 evil power rankings.

Al-Qaeda's still number one, but you're closing the gap.

And trust me, there is nothing that you can do to distract me from making sure that those folks are gonna get what they've earned from the government.

Absolutely.

The White House posting this AI image of a buff Jedi Trump to mark Star Wars Day on May 4th while touting his immigration crackdown.

I know I'm not supposed to get distracted, but

he's not a f***.

Jedi in that picture.

Do you understand?

Trump is presenting himself as a Jedi, but his lightsaber is red.

And the only way you can have a red lightsaber is by infusing its kyber crystal with the power of your rage and hate, thereby corrupting it into a vessel for the dark side.

Therefore, therefore, every one of those photos that Trump is putting out there, he is admitting.

He is admitting.

He's not a Jedi, but in fact, a Sith Lord.

And there are always two.

So the question is this.

Why do I know all this?

Well, I happen to have an extensive collection of Star Wars action figures.

30 to 37,

Gordy (Co-Host)

actually.

That's more than $30.

Wow.

Some call them dogs.

I call them friends!

That's good.

Wow.

Oh, he nailed it.

Unknown Speaker

He nailed

Gordy (Co-Host)

that red lightsaber.

Well, by the way, he said there were usually two and there is, you know, Hexeth came out with one, too.

And, you know, Elon Musk came out with one.

He had a red lightsaber.

Do they not know the colors of the saber?

Apparently not.

Oh my God.

Wow.

Even I know that.

That's amazing.

Well, of course, we had discussions about, you know, when my kids were buying the lightsabers, the collapsible lightsabers way back when, you know, we had to get the right colors.

Oh man, they knew who had what.

color.

It's crazy.

But it all works out in the end, doesn't it?

I guess so.

All right.

Well, I got one more here and this is a mind dribble.

Okay, this is mind dribble.

This was brought up in the conversation.

Unknown Speaker

And

Gordy (Co-Host)

here I can't, I can't remember this.

this kid's name.

He's really one of the great debaters.

And he is a young guy.

He's a Gen Z-er, and he is a great debating style.

And this is another web wisdom.

He's in a debate with a very bad dad.

So

Unknown Speaker

why don't

Gordy (Co-Host)

we check this out?

Unknown Speaker

Yeah, we're seeing it across every industry.

Gordy (Co-Host)

Number 72.

Unknown Speaker

Is this an old 72, John?

Gordy (Co-Host)

No, this is a brand new.

I hope you downloaded our audio from

Unknown Speaker

this morning.

Yes.

I did,

Gordy (Co-Host)

John.

72

Unknown Speaker

should be

Gordy (Co-Host)

there.

If it isn't, then it's still on the

Representative Dan Goldman (Interviewee)

cloud.

That is what I just started playing.

Is it?

Gordy (Co-Host)

OK.

Representative Dan Goldman (Interviewee)

Did you lose count again?

Gordy (Co-Host)

I don't know.

Let's try it again.

Unknown Speaker

It's gonna be different one this time, right?

We're seeing it across every industry and you sort of made a little joke about it.

Is it real or not?

The vast majority of the time what we're seeing is it is real.

People are filming getting laid off.

They're filming walking out.

They're taking the snacks on their way out.

Gordy (Co-Host)

That's not it.

That's not it.

All right.

Well, it's too bad.

You know, I gotta say that I'm kind of angry about this.

I've carried this story around with me for a week and a half.

Work and work.

And this is the thanks, I guess.

John (Co-Host)

Let me just say this.

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It is, yeah.

I thought you were just celebrating the record amount of times I played this song on Q106.

Yeah, I knew I said a record.

You loved this

Caller (identity unspecified)

song.

And I thought it's

John (host)

still in the record books.

Oh, God.

Gordy (host)

Oh, the

John (host)

request came in for this damn song.

Gordy (host)

It's

John (host)

Billy Joel, one of my favorite artists.

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I know people were

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Thank

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you, John.

See, that's a nice way to put

John (host)

it.

I

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met him at the night market last

John (host)

night.

Oh, did

Announcer

you, really?

John (host)

Yeah,

Gen Z Kid (debater)

it's good to see

John (host)

him.

Well, why don't we play the cut that I'm so desperate to play this Gen Z here debating a bad dad?

Let's listen to this.

Okay,

Gen Z Kid (debater)

you said

John (host)

you did

Gen Z Kid (debater)

more to say so,

Caller (identity unspecified)

you know hopeful that this kind of

Mind dribble that you pedal on the people doesn't ever pedal on my kids or the rest of the country fall apart

Gen Z Kid (debater)

You know what you need to do and I really hope you know, you're the only way to make sure that this mind

Caller (identity unspecified)

You

Gen Z Kid (debater)

know what

Caller (identity unspecified)

I was

Gen Z Kid (debater)

about to but like I don't genuinely want you to do it because I was about to point out that like the mind dribble that you are Describing of mine is just like an ability to critically think You know predicated on a foundation of education

So, I mean, are you basically telling us that you don't want your child to critically think?

You don't want your child to be curious about what's true and false in the world around them.

You don't want your child to have a foundation of a high level of education.

You want your child to drink the Kool-Aid just like you?

You were the problem of this country.

There you go.

Sweet.

Announcer

Wow.

Drop the mic.

Shots fired, yeah.

John (host)

I know.

He's been a guest on Jubilee.

debating many other people who opposed his ideas.

I can't remember his name.

I wish I knew.

He's a little older now, that earlier clip, but that's fantastic stuff.

Love the stuff, the web wisdoms that we

Gordy (host)

get

John (host)

here are just fantastic.

OK, now we're talking about the UK tariff deal, the much touted tariff deal.

It's not so cool after all.

Why not?

So let's play.

This is a professor, economic professor, Justin Wolffers, and he trashes this thing.

Let's listen to what he has to say about this deal.

Justin Wolffers (economic professor)

But there are 11th largest trading partner.

They account for three.

Count them.

One, two, three percent of American trade.

And if I took off all my shoes and socks and got four more people in the room, I'd be able to tell you that that leaves 97% of American trade absolutely up in the air.

Now, Laura, I want to tell you one more fact that will blow your mind.

Go back six weeks ago.

The average tariff the United Kingdom charged countries around the world was 1%.

So the best we can do is knock the United Kingdom down from 1%

to zero, and it's already clear we didn't get him to zero.

And along the way, the president is imposing a 10% tariff on the United Kingdom, making it harder for Americans to do business with trading partners over in the old dirt.

Gordy (host)

So why do you think he's announcing this with the UK?

What is the game plan here to suggest that this is much bigger deal than you say?

Justin Wolffers (economic professor)

Oh, the president's a showman.

He's going to tell you that there's all sorts of wonderful things about it.

This is a country with a king and a queen, and they have beef eaters and all sorts of things.

But they're not remotely central to us.

The other thing to realize about the United Kingdom, bless them.

But they're sort of the guys who walked away from trade very recently.

They're particularly looking for friends.

You might have been at high school once, and there was someone who told their whole group of friends to go stuff themselves.

That's the United Kingdom.

And once you do that to your friends, you very quickly go looking for another friend group, and you'll find that other friend group wherever you can.

John (host)

That's right.

So they, yeah, they turned down to a lot of trade deals with Europe.

Because Brexit.

Yeah.

Yeah, they're out on their own, and this is the kind of deal they swung.

And by the way, I watched Stephanie Rule last night just

Caller (identity unspecified)

before they

John (host)

went to bed.

Right.

And she talked about this.

this deal and she said it's actually a bad deal, really kind of a horrible deal for automakers in this country because now we've got a deal with the UK to send their autos over here at just 10% because the automakers in this country have to pay more for the tariffs for the parts they use and their vehicle prices are higher.

That's the British vehicles will be lower will be it's a what a what a wonderful day.

He is a master at negotiating these deals, isn't he?

Everything's upside down.

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morning.

We got plenty.

We have a lot of stuff.

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We're going to be hawking our John and Gordy.

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So hope Leo.

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It's a beautiful morning.

We got a new act.

It's phenomenal.

It's sensational.

It's terrific.

It's either mediocre.

John (host)

No, it's disgusting.

It's a ploy.

What a

Savannah from WMDX News

fucking ass.

You have a pretty fun show.

I listen to it most of the time, you know.

Keep up the good work.

God, I love you.

Get the hell off the stage.

Studio Staff

Nice work, everyone.

Sharp broadcast.

Really good.

Good morning, John and Gordy.

Good morning, John and Gordy.

Good morning, John and Gordy.

John (host)

Thank you.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Gordy (co-host)

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Six minutes past the hour.

Beautiful sunshine all day long highs in the upper 60s and low 70s.

Time for us to get updated what's happening locally in the news with Savannah, Tomei Olson.

Right here in the capital city.

What's

Savannah from WMDX News

going on?

John (host)

Good morning Savannah.

Savannah from WMDX News

Good morning guys.

How's it going?

Good.

Real

John (host)

great.

Yeah.

What's new?

What's on the top of the list of stories for you today?

No,

Savannah from WMDX News

our biggest story probably of the week, maybe even of the month here in Madison is that the father of the abundant life shooter has been arrested.

He was arrested yesterday for two counts of providing a dangerous weapon to someone under 18 and contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

So we got this update from police yesterday that

The gun that was used in that shooting where two people died and six others were hurt was given to her as a gift by her dad when she was 14 or 15 years old, which obviously kids of that age aren't supposed to own guns.

It's illegal in the state of Wisconsin.

I believe it's illegal most places in the country.

And so this is kind of following a trend that we've seen where after mass shootings as police kind of investigate how this all happened.

and they start holding parents accountable for their kids having access to guns.

We learned yesterday that there was a gun safe in the house, but that was her gun that she had regular access to.

Uh, now the father is in jail and police said he's cooperating with the investigation, but we've seen some parents be charged and even convicted of involuntary manslaughter and second degree murder.

So these charges are actually on the, I would say on the lower side compared to the charges that some parents have faced.

Gordy (co-host)

Yeah.

This is just, it's just really unbelievable.

and being the father and then being caught in this.

I mean, you can believe whatever you want for gun freedom, but at the same time, when you go one step beyond and you give a gun to an irresponsible young person, this is what happens.

And now the family split up, the whole thing is a disaster.

Savannah from WMDX News

Yeah, so price.

Paul, and how devastating for the ALCS community too.

Absolutely.

I'm sure there was a lot of anger.

as they learned this publicly yesterday.

I know a lot of the victims families were called ahead of time, so they didn't learn this on the news, but you can just you can only imagine what that feels like.

We also learned that her dad was told of some high risk online behavior.

That's what the police called it, basically glorifying mass violence, being fascinated with weapons back in 2022.

So I imagine

There are a lot of mad ALCS families just over the last 24 hours.

That's an assumption.

I haven't spoken to any of them.

We are leaving them alone.

But I can only imagine how it feels to learn that after the fact.

John (host)

Well, I'm sure we'll be following the story for some time to come.

All

Savannah from WMDX News

right.

John (host)

Okay.

Well, let's move on.

Now yesterday was a big day here in Madison for graduation.

Gordy (co-host)

You double

John (host)

the graduation last night at the Madison Night Market.

I know we saw a lot of graduates walking around in their gowns in their caps and gowns.

And so that was, uh, that was a big story yesterday.

Savannah from WMDX News

That's fun.

I bet a lot of them were taking their pictures, you know, going over to camp Randall, getting their photo on the hill, all that kind of stuff.

Tonight is the doctorate and MFA ceremony.

That one's at the Cole Center.

And then tomorrow's the big one at Camp Randall with all the bachelors, graduate and law students.

This year's speaker is Jason Gay, who's a columnist and humorist for the Wall Street Journal.

And he graduated from UW in 1992, very proudly.

proudly espouses how much he loves being a badger.

So I imagine that'll be an entertaining speech for all the graduates.

But as usual, if you've lived in Madison for more than a year or two, you know that you're going to have some extra traffic and

A long, long wait at restaurants downtown this weekend.

Let me be prepared for that.

Gordy (co-host)

Yeah.

Well, it looks like we won't be able to go off for Mother's Day, I guess.

Well, actually

Savannah from WMDX News

it is.

I think they kind of ruined it for

Gordy (co-host)

us.

That'll be my excuse.

John (host)

All right.

It's also the unofficial start of hippie Christmas

Gordy (co-host)

now with all

John (host)

the mattresses and the furniture and the pickup trucks.

Savannah, thank you so much.

We appreciate you joining us.

Yeah.

Happy

Savannah from WMDX News

Friday, thanks for having

John (host)

me.

WMDX News.

Gordy (co-host)

All right, what I like to get to is the Daily Show cut.

I can't believe it.

They put these things together immediately.

This is on the Pope and they're talking about this.

This is Desi Lydic.

Yes.

And she is fantastic at doing this.

She means so much of Stephanie Miller, you know, her attitude, her way of delivering the line.

John (host)

She's

Gordy (co-host)

great.

Yeah, she's fantastic.

So when we listen to this, she's got all the drop-ins.

I'm going to leave this whole bit up to her.

take it away.

Desi Lydic from The Daily Show

You've been waiting to hear back from the Vatican about that resume you sent in bad news, the position has been filled.

Caller 1

And I think we see it.

Sorry.

Here we go.

It looks like smoke and white smoke.

We have smoke

Daily Show Clip

and it is white smoke.

It would appear to be a white smoke.

Caller 1

White smoke.

We have a pope.

We are watching and everyone to breathe

Desi Lydic from The Daily Show

it in the

Caller 1

white

Desi Lydic from The Daily Show

smoke.

Breathe it in.

I know we were supposed to hot box the Pope's smoke.

But white smoke means there's a new Pope.

And where do you get a load of where he came from?

Daily Show Clip

History at the Vatican.

The first ever American Pope.

Desi Lydic from The Daily Show

We have the first American Pope.

And let me just say, as an American, are you sure about this?

We don't really have.

the gravitas that you associate with popiness.

We're less somber procession and more monster truck rally.

I just think it's a little bit weird that the holiest man in the world probably knows all the words to the chili's baby back ribs.

Weird.

But the votes.

are counted and the Vatican doesn't have a January 6th, so there's no going back.

Let's find out more about this American Pope.

Excuse me, Pope Americano.

Caller 1

Born in 1955 in Chicago, Robert Francis Prevost has been a cardinal for only two years.

He's big into tennis.

He's effectively known as Father Bob.

A Cubs fan.

He loves to cook.

Daily Show Clip

Italian media has referred to him as the least American of the Americans because of his quiet.

Humble

Desi Lydic from The Daily Show

way.

Wow.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

So you're telling me that you think all Americans are loudmouth jackasses?

Well, fuck you.

Humble.

Humble.

I'm the most humble bitch you've ever seen.

But let's get back to the Pope.

Of course, the first job of every new pope is to pick a pope name, which we all know is supposed to be the name of your first pet in the street you grew up on.

But he went a different way.

Studio Staff

Robert Francis Prevost of Chicago, taking on the name of Pope Leo XIV.

Desi Lydic from The Daily Show

Leo XIV?

Did he choose it the way we pick a new email address?

Desi.lytic is taken?

OK, what about Desi.lytic 2?

Really?

Three?

Really?

Four?

Five?

Fine, Desi.lytic14.

Very good.

Daily Show Clip

But

Desi Lydic from The Daily Show

yes, Robert Privo's new name is Leo the 14th, which sucks for him because he just got his real ID.

Dang it.

Now, I've always found this odd.

The church is so conservative on gay issues, but then they turn around and make its leader choose a drag name.

But after he picked his pope name, he came out and gave his first speech in both Italian and Spanish about the need for unity and peace on earth.

Daily Show Clip

This is good.

So

Desi Lydic from The Daily Show

cue

Daily Show Clip

peace

Desi Lydic from The Daily Show

and unity in three, two, one.

Daily Show Clip

I would have loved for the first pope from America to say something in English.

John (host)

I

Daily Show Clip

was a little surprised that a Chicago native did not say a few words in English.

John (host)

He's talking Spanish.

He's an American.

And he didn't even speak in English.

He spoke

Daily Show Clip

in Latin, Spanish, and Italian did not speak in

John (host)

English.

He did not speak in English.

I mean, I don't know how you claim that this is an American Pope if you won't even speak in a native tongue.

That to me was very disturbing.

Desi Lydic from The Daily Show

Wow.

Yes, yes.

John (host)

How

Desi Lydic from The Daily Show

dare you.

If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for the Pope.

Change.

Come on, does it really matter what language he speaks?

It's church.

You're going to be sleeping through it anyway.

And besides, there's gonna be plenty of other stuff for conservatives to throw a tantrum about.

Listener

There's some tweets that when the Pope was still a cardinal that are getting a lot of attention online that are politically charged.

Caller 1

This one is directly rebuking J.D.

Vance.

The new Pope, Pope Leo XIV, said J.D.

Vance is wrong.

Desi Lydic from The Daily Show

The new Pope is not like J.D.

Vance.

He really is an everyday American.

Be careful, though, father.

If you piss off JD Vance, he's going to pay you a

John (host)

visit.

Uh-oh.

Yeah, that's not going to end up well.

That's Desi Lydic from Daily Show.

That's fantastic.

Gordy (co-host)

It is.

It is good stuff.

And my mega friend in Milwaukee sent me a post where it

Listed why he is a conservative very conservative Pope and that he is a right winger.

He's a mega Okay, and then then I saw this list from Laura Loomer who is a right wing zealot crazy person and this is her post, okay?

This is the new Pope.

His name is Robert Prevost.

He's the first American Pope.

He is anti-Trump, anti-Mega, pro-open borders, and a total Marxist like Pope Francis.

I don't know where my mega friend got his information.

But anyway, not listening to Laura Loomer apparently.

Catholics don't have anything good to look forward to.

Just another Marxist puppet in the Vatican.

Wow.

All right.

All right.

And then, of course, Dan Shafer, who's here at Civic Media, he mentioned also that the Pope was a teacher in Waukesha County.

Oh, really?

In a conible walk.

I didn't know that.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's terrific.

But you know, this Laura Loomer post was really funny because Joe, who was a regular poster on X, she said this, she said, this response about, okay, she said,

Is she gonna try to get the Pope fired?

We're listing this, Laura Loomer.

Laura Loomer trying to get the Pope fired?

God, that is great stuff.

You know people just take these strange look set

John (host)

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Got a couple of minutes here.

All right.

But not

Gordy (co-host)

enough time for Tim Waltz.

I told you yesterday I was going to get to Tim Waltz.

Yeah.

Because he was on with

Jen Psaki.

John (host)

Okay.

Gordy (co-host)

All right.

Yes.

And we do have a cut coming up in just a few moments.

All right.

But I do want to get this.

Here's why the U.S.

needs universal health care coverage.

This is crazy stuff.

The Oklahoma governor, Kevin Stitt, vetoed a bill to expand breast cancer exam options.

in the great state of Oklahoma.

On Tuesday, he vetoed House bill legislation that would clarify which breast cancer examinations health insurance providers must pay.

His veto message states that his decision stemmed from concerns over costly insurance mandates that he argued would ultimately raise premiums for workers.

Hmm.

So while early detection and access is a good thing, this legislation imposes new and costly insurance mandates on private health care plans.

Wow.

We got to protect those insurance companies.

Right?

I mean, we got to save them some money.

Oh, sure.

Yeah.

So let's, you know, let's keep that, that breast cancer examination down.

Okay.

Boy.

John (host)

This is

Gordy (co-host)

why we need universal health

John (host)

care.

Yes.

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past the hour.

Beautiful sunshine.

Start this Friday.

Let's check out the rest of the weather with our WMDX chief meteorologist, Brittany Merlo.

Good morning, Brittany.

Brittany Merlo (chief meteorologist)

Good morning.

How are you guys doing?

Show Host

We're doing really nice.

Looking forward to a fantastic weekend.

I'm sure you're not going to disappoint us.

Right?

Brittany Merlo (chief meteorologist)

No, I just got a rocket full of sunshine for everybody.

All right.

Nice.

Yeah.

How nice will

Show Host

it

Co-host

be?

Yeah.

Brittany Merlo (chief meteorologist)

Too nice.

How's that?

Is that possible?

We'll take it.

SPEAKER_??

No.

Brittany Merlo (chief meteorologist)

Yeah, after a crisp and cold morning, what we hit 32 degrees this morning, the freezing mark, frost advisories out there.

And now we're finally above that 37 degrees at the moment.

We're going to make it to 70 today.

Super sunny.

Unidentified Speaker

I mean,

Brittany Merlo (chief meteorologist)

that's going to be the case pretty much for the rest of the week as well into the weekend.

We're looking at 73 degrees tomorrow.

76 on Saturday or a Sunday for Mother's Day.

Yeah.

And then we climb into the 80s next week.

Tim Walls

Yeah.

Wow.

Brittany Merlo (chief meteorologist)

I know.

I know.

And we're holding off on all rain.

It looks like a cold front moving through tonight in the northern part of the state makes its way towards us in the morning tomorrow.

But really, no rain is going to be produced from that.

So we're going to hold off on all rain chances pretty much until Tuesday and Wednesday of next week.

Co-host

So pretty dry, but warm period ahead of us.

Does that mean we have burned bands back?

Do you think

Brittany Merlo (chief meteorologist)

that's

Co-host

happening?

Brittany Merlo (chief meteorologist)

Yes, it does.

Unfortunately, a good chunk of the states and it's very, very high fire danger.

And that's going to last at least until next weekend, I think, because we need some more significant rain.

And that looks to move in by Sunday next weekend.

Show Host

Well, it looks like I won't have to burn off my yard.

What?

You were going to burn it off?

You were going to start your yard on the

Unidentified Speaker

fire?

Show Host

You know, I did that on

Unidentified Speaker

accident

Co-host

when I was a

Unidentified Speaker

kid.

I've never heard of doing it on purpose.

Show Host

Have you alerted the neighbors?

You know that I'm not a big fan of my lawn.

So you're just going to give it up and burn it off?

Accidentally burn it, yes.

But the conditions aren't right for it now, so I can't do it.

OK.

Unidentified Speaker

No, I know what you meant.

You meant cleaning up the yard and then burning the debris, didn't you?

Show Host

Yes, that's exactly what I meant, sure.

Yep,

Unidentified Speaker

let's go with that.

Don't do that either.

Co-host

Okay, well, Brittany, you enjoy the weather this weekend.

We'll talk to you on Monday, all right?

Brittany Merlo (chief meteorologist)

Sounds good.

You guys have a great weekend.

Thanks,

Co-host

Brittany.

That's Brittany

Brittany Merlo (chief meteorologist)

Merlot, our

Co-host

chief meteorologist for WMDX.

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right, now we're gonna get to a cut from Tim Walls here.

He's telling it like it is.

He's explaining what reality is really like.

Oh my gosh, really?

From a politician.

Let's go for it.

Tim Walls

I you know, I don't know this for my amateur psychologist I think he listened to one class when he was back in the 80s or something at Wharton in his six months there or whatever and he misreads this It's a ludicrous philosophy.

No one agrees with him and then they come back to well Democrats put terrorists on yes, they're a tool They're a scalpel you can use them when you have unfair practices, but he's talking about the thing that drives me insane With working with Canada and Mexico.

He's the guy who negotiated the deal and then he turns around

and says, well, we don't care much about Ken.

I was glad to see the Prime Minister coming into the...

Saying from Canada saying are you out of your mind?

What would your biggest trading partner?

They are our biggest trading partner in Minnesota.

There are dearest friends There they're who we care about he has no concept This goes back to that idea so many Americans thought you know We need to hire a businessman to run government like business two things about that are wrong No, we don't need to run government like a business because we're not in the profit-making We're in the proving lives and looking towards the future and this guy has a proven track record of being an

Absolute failure and I think the opening for Democrats is is to work with the business community my I am home to many large fortune 500 companies that are put at risk by this and I'll just say this I'm calling these folks out.

They need to stand up He threatens them.

He threatens, you know universities.

Thank goodness Harvard standing up to them

But that's how he gets things done.

He doesn't get it done through competency.

He doesn't get it done through results.

He gets it done through fear intimidation.

And I'm with you.

I wish he could have been weirdly obsessed with like pickleball or something rather than tariffs.

That's where he could spend his time.

But it's on this tariff thing that doesn't

Show Host

work.

That's that's a great commentary.

You know, he's talking about Trump making all his really, really bad decisions.

He he does treat the country like it is a business and he has bankrupted his businesses.

So I'm not quite sure I like the idea myself.

Right.

And why are we listening to him on this?

He really doesn't know what he's doing.

And again, it's this thing where, remember, Doge has been talking about how the government is losing money.

Well, it's not losing.

It's not there to make money.

It's there to serve the public regardless.

So anyway, that's my little rant on that.

Unidentified Speaker

You know, I think we could use a couple more pickleball courts.

Show Host

Yeah, I wish you had followed pickleball.

Hey, I got a cut here.

This is really fantastic.

This shows our orange God and what he knows about the world.

He thinks Mattel is a country.

Let's listen to cut 68.

Cut 68, according to the outline that I've supplied.

We have

Unidentified Speaker

time

Show Host

for

Co-host

it.

Show Host

I

Unidentified Speaker

don't know.

I'm not so sure.

They also said they're the only country I've heard.

They said, well, we're going to go counter.

We're going to try and go someplace else.

That's OK.

Mattel.

Let him go.

And we'll put 100% tariff on his toys.

And he won't sell one toy in the United States.

And that's the biggest market.

I heard that.

I mean, I watched this guy talking about how I'm going to go counter.

I said, well, I wouldn't want to have him as an executive too long.

Show Host

He was talking about the executive CEO of Mattel saying that they make their toys and everything in other countries

Unidentified Speaker

to

Show Host

keep the price down.

They do the designs and marketing ideas here in this country.

But again, he thinks Mattel, the guy, the CEO is the president of a country named Mattel.

All right?

This is the guy in charge.

Co-host

OK,

Show Host

coming up right around the corner.

OK, I'm

Co-host

walking.

Take a deep breath.

Because coming up next, Rocker is

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in the studio

Co-host

with a maxing preview right after the Midwest Farm and Food Report.

I'll hang around for that.

On WMDX.

Stay with

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us.

John Peterson (host)

WMDX, 92.7.

I am John Peterson.

Gordy Young (host)

And I am Gordy Young.

We never say our last names.

I know.

Right?

Well, we've been trying to keep them secret for a long

Sam (contributor)

time.

You should go by your middle names one day.

Oh, really?

Yeah, that'll help.

Gordy Young (host)

What's your middle name?

I've never asked.

Lund.

Lund?

Yep.

Mine's Thomas.

Oh.

It's Lund and Thomas in the morning.

Sam, what's your middle name?

Eugene.

Eugene?

Rocker, do you have a middle name or is it just rocker just rocker?

John Peterson (host)

There

Rocker (contributor)

is no middle

John Peterson (host)

name.

I think the

Gordy Young (host)

letters in that isn't it?

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I know that you

John Peterson (host)

know we hear from Matt at Middleton every every every day and we love it.

Actually, but Matt was a little frustrated this morning to text us.

You said, hate to break it to everyone, but other countries don't want American products.

Our products are unregulated and filled with chemicals.

And our cars and trucks are large, overpriced, and don't meet the environmental standards that people want.

And our planes are overpriced and unsafe, so.

Are we great yet?

Republicans are garbage and bad for America.

There you go.

Thank

Sam (contributor)

you.

That's the kind of America I want to live

John Peterson (host)

in.

Oh boy.

Thank you Matt or we have to buy those products Matt We heard from John Stewart earlier about the red lightsaber and you know We have rocker in the studio.

We're gonna hear some local music, but rocker you went on a tear here Could

Rocker (contributor)

you

John Peterson (host)

please explain the reason why the lightsabers for the Sith and for the bad dark side are red tell

Rocker (contributor)

us so well the Jedi

They use a natural crystal that they go and mine on a planet that actually only the Jedi know about.

And the Sith has been trying to find out where that planet is

Sam (contributor)

for a long time,

Rocker (contributor)

right?

But the Jedi keep it secret.

They use a natural crystal.

So what the sith did was they use this basically this oven to kind of bake this synthetic crystal and they use all this dark side energy while it's baking.

It's really like an intense process.

It takes a couple of days.

Unknown

Yeah.

And they do sit

Sam (contributor)

there.

They sit there.

It's like, it's like, you know,

Rocker (contributor)

meditating on the top of the Himalayas or something.

They have to,

Sam (contributor)

you

Rocker (contributor)

know, and so they make these synthetic crystals.

And of course, the synthetic crystals only provide you

with crimson.

So the only way a sith has a different colored lightsaber, like green or blue, is because they took it from some dead Jedi.

John Peterson (host)

Ah, OK.

All right, let me explain that.

Gordy Young (host)

I

Rocker (contributor)

was

Gordy Young (host)

confused.

Rocker (contributor)

Well, let's turn to

Gordy Young (host)

the.

Yeah.

The Max Ink preview for this

Rocker (contributor)

weekend.

You

Gordy Young (host)

got a lot of stuff going

Rocker (contributor)

on.

We got a lot of stuff going on.

You know, Max Ink radio, 6 p.m.

to midnight on Saturday and Sunday.

This weekend, it's going to be me and Terry Barr, Rocker and Terry Barr.

Jimmy is off camping again this weekend.

So he's going to be having a good time and after hours with Rob Roberts this week.

Genevieve Hayward.

And Dan Stoffels, they're expatriates here from Wisconsin and they went out to Nashville and now they're going to be kind of doing a tour with their band, Genevieve Hayward, great singer-songwriter.

We'll be talking to her.

The lair, Jeff Burkhart.

Jeff Burkhart is a local singer-songwriter, acoustic.

He'll be coming in here.

He's got a show coming up over at the Cargo Cafe coming up.

What will you be talking about that?

And Madison Malone.

We're going to be interviewing her, actually.

Terry Barr interviewed her.

We had her

Gordy Young (host)

in yesterday.

Rocker (contributor)

That's right.

There's a show coming up May 10th at Al Ringling Theater, Baraboo.

It's presented by Music Makes a Difference.

And let me tell you, those guys, they do a lot of shows and a lot of sponsoring.

They're even a big sponsor of the backstage at Atwood Fest.

Gordy Young (host)

Yeah.

And that's also a fundraiser for Hope House up in Baraboo and

Rocker (contributor)

the

Gordy Young (host)

Women's Care Center there.

Rocker (contributor)

That's right.

And Gold Dust Women, Madison Malone and Spare Bones.

And one of these bands, we're not going to tell you who has Shondale Marks in it.

Gordy Young (host)

That's right.

She was

Rocker (contributor)

also here

Gordy Young (host)

yesterday.

How funny.

I know.

John Peterson (host)

It's funny how that stuff works.

Gordy Young (host)

Ironic.

John Peterson (host)

We're stealing your thunder, by the way.

We're going to start.

Rocker (contributor)

Well, I got a little more for you.

All right.

He's

Gordy Young (host)

got more thunder.

Rocker (contributor)

I was at my Rocker Jamboree.

Yes.

Gordy, you were there.

Yeah.

Catherine Lake came out.

There was a lot of fun.

It was sold out.

The bands were amazing.

It was a great time.

I know I was in the line

John Peterson (host)

waiting to get in.

I could not get in.

So it's a sadly,

Rocker (contributor)

you didn't find the way around to the back deck.

Just kidding.

Gordy Young (host)

You were barred from trouble maker.

Rocker (contributor)

Oh, it was so fun.

I saw so many people that I hadn't seen in a long time.

So it was really a great, a great time.

It really was.

And then I ended up right heading out to the whammy awards.

and

Sam (contributor)

inducted

Rocker (contributor)

it into the wall of honor,

Sam (contributor)

which was really,

Rocker (contributor)

really, really cool.

I got to meet Grammy winner Bill Miller backstage.

So that was

Sam (contributor)

pretty

Rocker (contributor)

cool too.

And then I also won on air personality for the state of Wisconsin.

That is

Sam (contributor)

so cool.

For

Rocker (contributor)

the Wisconsin music industry.

And one other note was Paige Kleber.

Remember, we've been playing some of her music.

She's now 12 years old from here in Madison.

and she won the Rising Star Award.

So

Sam (contributor)

that was pretty cool.

Rocker (contributor)

And there were

Sam (contributor)

a lot

Rocker (contributor)

of other great winners, but I just thought I'd focus on those for now.

That's trial labor in the music industry.

No, it's not.

I'm just kidding.

She has a permit.

It's

John Peterson (host)

art.

Unknown

She has a

John Peterson (host)

permit.

There you go.

You see?

Got that covered.

All right.

Rocker (contributor)

OK.

Her mom's at the shows, right?

Right.

Exactly.

All right.

Last week we had Kathy Couture and the Bad Jacks, right?

They were in the studio last week and Kathy, she was diagnosed with stage four cancer back a couple of years ago.

She's been going through a lot of treatments.

And in the meantime to deal with this, she started writing music and producing albums and she's now going to release her third album.

Sam (contributor)

It's

Rocker (contributor)

called Hard to Kill, May 10th at the High Noon Saloon, The Bad Jacks, her band, it's Jenna Jonas on drums, Dan Kennedy on bass and Beth Killian guitar.

And then they're going to have special guest, Jen Farley.

So half of the two thirds of the... Two thirds

Gordy Young (host)

of Gin

Rocker (contributor)

and Chocolate.

...of Gin and Chocolate and Bottle Rockets.

So hey, let's hear a little Cathy Couture.

This is Hard to Kill, the title track from her brand new album.

Sam (contributor)

Getting salt pills in the summer heat so I could play all day.

Coating under the bathroom sink kept insomnia away.

There was a lack of supervision No seatbelts in the car I could ride my bike She didn't care if I went far My momma says I'm hard to kill I asked if she'd been trying We had a lot of ups and downs Some screaming and some crying It was an epic test of wills But I'm too

Hard to kill.

Gordy Young (host)

Great

John Peterson (host)

voice.

Very unique voice.

Rocker (contributor)

Oh, she was fun.

And I think that's going to be a good show.

Beth Killie singing there behind.

It's really an amazing show.

Man Town Manage Boys, they are steeped in Chicago style blues from Madison, Wisconsin.

Tonight, May 9th, they are playing at the Red Rooster over on Seaforth Road.

And May 30th, they'll be at the Memorial Union in case you miss them.

Two great shows for the Man Town Manage Boys.

And let's listen to some.

This is called Get Out of My Life Woman.

This is the Man Town Manage

Unknown

Boys.

Gordy Young (host)

Man town Manish boys.

Yeah, the great band.

Rocker (contributor)

Oh, they're awesome and they're playing at the Red Rooster and of course Tonight they all kind of own some of the guys from that band on the Red Rooster.

So they really.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, that's for sure Let's see, you know, I want to tell you guys, you know, there is some more stuff to the dark side than just Star Wars, right?

Coming up

Unknown

put

Rocker (contributor)

this on your calendar Wednesday, July 23rd at the Capitol It's the Wisconsin Chamber Orchestra, and they're gonna be doing Pink Floyd's dark side of the moon.

Oh, cool.

I just I just saw that Listed is an event.

I was like, oh man

Wednesday, July 23rd.

So we got time to talk about it.

But it was just kind of funny that, you know, Darkseid just happened to pop into our morning show here.

John Peterson (host)

It's pretty neat.

There are orchestras doing all these kind of thematic concerts now.

One is one more interesting.

One is the Spaghetti Western.

Really?

Music.

Because the bad and the

Sam (contributor)

ugly, that'd be

John Peterson (host)

fun.

They do all this stuff live.

It's very memorable.

Music.

So they're doing this as well.

So it's kind of cool.

I'd like to see this.

Rocker (contributor)

Oh, it sounds

John Peterson (host)

fun.

And you know,

Rocker (contributor)

that's outside, right?

On the steps of the Capitol, it's always like a really good time.

Wisconsin Chamber Orchestra, Wednesday, July 23rd.

That's Pink Floyd's dark side of the moon.

No lightsabers.

John Peterson (host)

They're gonna, oh no!

I thought that would be kind of cool, but you know, they're gonna perform this at midnight, did you say?

No, no,

Rocker (contributor)

no, it's

John Peterson (host)

not at midnight, no.

I'm just throwing

Rocker (contributor)

up.

I'm

John Peterson (host)

sorry.

What is wrong with you?

You know, I really need the weekend.

Yes, you

Rocker (contributor)

do.

It's coming, John.

It's coming.

All right.

Well, tonight, though, if you're looking for something to do May 9th at the Memorial Union Terrace, concerts are back.

It's a funky JB's featuring Joey B Banks on drums.

They'll be doing the Clyde Stubblefield Tribune and celebrating Clyde Stubblefield's doctorate and PhD from the UW School of Music.

We played a song from the James Brown Singles and it's kind of these remixed versions.

I found another.

And this is popcorn with a feeling.

This is Clyde's double field on drums doing James Brown popcorn with a feeling.

Gordy Young (host)

So that is tonight

Rocker (contributor)

that is tonight funny

Gordy Young (host)

JB's

Rocker (contributor)

and I hope you're kind of focusing on the drums there because I know the flute solo catches people's ears But that drum beat that was classic Clyde right there.

Yeah,

Gordy Young (host)

no doubt about

Rocker (contributor)

it.

Gordy Young (host)

Excellent stuff.

All right.

Are we keep going?

Well, we're less than a minute here.

So you want to What do we want to do here?

Let me just mention to everybody.

Yeah, you know what?

Let's

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John (Co-Host)

Really,

Gordy (Host)

really good Wisconsin music.

Yep.

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Gordy (Host)

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Okay, all right.

Now, back to the Max Inc preview here.

Rocker.

What do you got for us?

Rocker

Oh, guys, you know, festy season is coming.

I just want to run through a couple things so you can put it on your calendar.

The Marquette Waterfront Festival.

It's a 36th annual festival, June 14th and 15th at Yajara Place Park, right on the lake.

It's a festival.

It's the official curtain raiser to the east side's season of summer festivals.

There's five of them.

So make sure you get these dates down.

Okay.

Marquette Waterfront June 14th, the 15th La Feta Marquette, July 10th through 13th Atwood Fest, July 26th, then 27th Orton Park Festival, August 29th through 30th.

And then the Willy Street Fair ends it up September.

20th and 21st.

So it's important to remember our great festivals here in Madison.

It's really, you know, what makes Madison so special.

It really

Gordy (Host)

is.

Yeah, all those festivals,

Rocker

every one of

Gordy (Host)

them are excellent.

They're all great.

Rocker

Oh, it's so fun.

I mean, one after another all summer.

The periodicals.

They are from Madison and Milwaukee and May 23rd at the high noon saloon.

They're going to, they're going to be on the patio and that's the first patio show.

So, you know, summer is coming when you see the bands are starting to play outside, right?

All ages, no cover, high noon saloon patio.

They're a 10 piece band, Madison's finest alternative pub rock, Northern soul band.

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Their roots go back to the 90s in the Madison local music scene.

And June 23rd, they're playing at the up north bar.

I thought I'd pull out some and that's a little ways in the future.

So put that on your calendar.

Electric Spanking, good people.

SPEAKER_??

Okay.

Rocker

It'd be nice if they could take over the world, those good people.

Electric spanking.

Electric spanking.

I'm not even sure how that works, but... June

Gordy (Host)

23rd at the up north bar.

Rocker

There's gotta be some kind of toy involved.

Gordy (Host)

the toy.

Rocker

I would assume, you know, one of those adult stores stop in September and ask for that electric expansion.

Just move on.

Okay.

We have some family show.

We do have some free fly swatters here that are there.

The guy gave them to us.

He said they were a marriage saver.

Gordy (Host)

Okay.

Wow.

Here we go.

Rocker

So anybody wants to come by the studio and come and pick those up.

They're great.

Got it.

They're fly spotters from power take off a local band.

Yeah, guaranteed to save your marriage, John.

Gordy (Host)

There you go.

Well, OK, I'll see you.

I

Rocker

bought it at home.

Let us know.

Let us know how it works.

OK, well, thank you very much.

It's real nice.

Gordy (Host)

Rocker, we got to go here.

Maxing preview.

Rocker

All right.

Thanks, man.

Saturday and Sunday night, six to midnight.

Yeah.

Me and Terry Barrow be here on Saturday night and Jeff Burke, our Jeff Burkhardt will be in the Lair playing live.

Gordy (Host)

Excellent.

Thanks for coming in.

See you next Friday on Monday show.

Jennifer MacFarlane from Comfy Cauldron in.

in DeForest.

She talks to ghosts.

Apparently.

Okay.

We're gonna get in touch with the Supernatural.

I am going to love this.

Okay.

We'll find out more about that on Monday morning.

Stephanie Miller is coming up next.

We hope you have a wonderful weekend.

Desi Lydic

It's a beautiful morning.

We got a new act.

It's phenomenal.

It's sensational.

It's terrific.

It's either mediocre.

Gordy

No, it's disgusting.

It's a ploy.

What a

Savannah Tomei Olson

fucking ass.

You have a pretty fun show.

I listen to it most of the time, you know.

Keep up the good work.

God, I love you.

Get the hell off the stage.

John

Nice work, everyone.

Sharp broadcast.

Really good.

Good morning, John and Gordy.

Good morning, John and Gordy.

Good morning, John and Gordy.

Gordy

Thank you.

Good morning.

Caller 1

Good morning.

Johnny

WMDX 92.7.

It is Johnny

Gordy

Gordy in the morning.

Six minutes past the hour.

Beautiful sunshine all day long highs in the upper 60s and low 70s.

Time for us to get updated what's happening locally in the news with Savannah, Tomei Olson.

Right here in the capital city.

What's

Savannah Tomei Olson

going on?

Gordy

Good morning Savannah.

Savannah Tomei Olson

Good morning guys.

How's it going?

Good.

Real

Gordy

great.

Yeah.

What's new?

What's on the top of the list of stories for you today?

No,

Savannah Tomei Olson

our biggest story probably of the week, maybe even of the month here in Madison is that the father of the abundant life shooter has been arrested.

He was arrested yesterday for two counts of providing a dangerous weapon to someone under 18 and contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

So we got this update from police yesterday that

The gun that was used in that shooting where two people died and six others were hurt was given to her as a gift by her dad when she was 14 or 15 years old, which obviously kids of that age aren't supposed to own guns.

It's illegal in the state of Wisconsin.

I believe it's illegal most places in the country.

And so this is kind of following a trend that we've seen where after mass shootings as police kind of investigate how this all happened.

and they start holding parents accountable for their kids having access to guns.

We learned yesterday that there was a gun safe in the house, but that was her gun that she had regular access to.

Uh, now the father is in jail and police said he's cooperating with the investigation, but we've seen some parents be charged and even convicted of involuntary manslaughter and second degree murder.

So these charges are actually on the, I would say on the lower side compared to the charges that some parents have faced.

Johnny

Yeah.

This is just, it's just really unbelievable.

and being the father and then being caught in this.

I mean, you can believe whatever you want for gun freedom, but at the same time, when you go one step beyond and you give a gun to an irresponsible young person, this is what happens.

And now the family split up, the whole thing is a disaster.

Savannah Tomei Olson

Yeah, so price.

Paul, and how devastating for the ALCS community too.

Absolutely.

I'm sure there was a lot of anger.

as they learned this publicly yesterday.

I know a lot of the victims families were called ahead of time, so they didn't learn this on the news, but you can just you can only imagine what that feels like.

We also learned that her dad was told of some high risk online behavior.

That's what the police called it, basically glorifying mass violence, being fascinated with weapons back in 2022.

So I imagine

There are a lot of mad ALCS families just over the last 24 hours.

That's an assumption.

I haven't spoken to any of them.

We are leaving them alone.

But I can only imagine how it feels to learn that after the fact.

Gordy

Well, I'm sure we'll be following the story for some time to come.

All

Savannah Tomei Olson

right.

Gordy

Okay.

Well, let's move on.

Now yesterday was a big day here in Madison for graduation.

Johnny

You double

Gordy

the graduation last night at the Madison Night Market.

I know we saw a lot of graduates walking around in their gowns in their caps and gowns.

And so that was, uh, that was a big story yesterday.

Savannah Tomei Olson

That's fun.

I bet a lot of them were taking their pictures, you know, going over to camp Randall, getting their photo on the hill, all that kind of stuff.

Tonight is the doctorate and MFA ceremony.

That one's at the Cole Center.

And then tomorrow's the big one at Camp Randall with all the bachelors, graduate and law students.

This year's speaker is Jason Gay, who's a columnist and humorist for the Wall Street Journal.

And he graduated from UW in 1992, very proudly.

proudly espouses how much he loves being a badger.

So I imagine that'll be an entertaining speech for all the graduates.

But as usual, if you've lived in Madison for more than a year or two, you know that you're going to have some extra traffic and

A long, long wait at restaurants downtown this weekend.

Let me be prepared for that.

Johnny

Yeah.

Well, it looks like we won't be able to go off for Mother's Day, I guess.

Well, actually

Savannah Tomei Olson

it is.

I think they kind of ruined it for

Johnny

us.

That'll be my excuse.

Gordy

All right.

It's also the unofficial start of hippie Christmas

Johnny

now with all

Gordy

the mattresses and the furniture and the pickup trucks.

Savannah, thank you so much.

We appreciate you joining us.

Yeah.

Happy

Savannah Tomei Olson

Friday, thanks for having

Gordy

me.

WMDX News.

Johnny

All right, what I like to get to is the Daily Show cut.

I can't believe it.

They put these things together immediately.

This is on the Pope and they're talking about this.

This is Desi Lydic.

Yes.

And she is fantastic at doing this.

She means so much of Stephanie Miller, you know, her attitude, her way of delivering the line.

Gordy

She's

Johnny

great.

Yeah, she's fantastic.

So when we listen to this, she's got all the drop-ins.

I'm going to leave this whole bit up to her.

take it away.

Johnny (narrating Desi Lydic's segment)

You've been waiting to hear back from the Vatican about that resume you sent in bad news, the position has been filled.

Desi Lydic

And I think we see it.

Sorry.

Here we go.

It looks like smoke and white smoke.

We have smoke

News Voice Over

and it is white smoke.

It would appear to be a white smoke.

Desi Lydic

White smoke.

We have a pope.

We are watching and everyone to breathe

Johnny (narrating Desi Lydic's segment)

it in the

Desi Lydic

white

Johnny (narrating Desi Lydic's segment)

smoke.

Breathe it in.

I know we were supposed to hot box the Pope's smoke.

But white smoke means there's a new Pope.

And where do you get a load of where he came from?

News Voice Over 2

History at the Vatican.

The first ever American Pope.

Johnny (narrating Desi Lydic's segment)

We have the first American Pope.

And let me just say, as an American, are you sure about this?

We don't really have.

the gravitas that you associate with popiness.

We're less somber procession and more monster truck rally.

I just think it's a little bit weird that the holiest man in the world probably knows all the words to the chili's baby back ribs.

Weird.

But the votes.

are counted and the Vatican doesn't have a January 6th, so there's no going back.

Let's find out more about this American Pope.

Excuse me, Pope Americano.

Desi Lydic

Born in 1955 in Chicago, Robert Francis Prevost has been a cardinal for only two years.

He's big into tennis.

He's effectively known as Father Bob.

A Cubs fan.

He loves to cook.

News Voice Over

Italian media has referred to him as the least American of the Americans because of his quiet.

Humble

Johnny (narrating Desi Lydic's segment)

way.

Wow.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

So you're telling me that you think all Americans are loudmouth jackasses?

Well, fuck you.

Humble.

Humble.

I'm the most humble bitch you've ever seen.

But let's get back to the Pope.

Of course, the first job of every new pope is to pick a pope name, which we all know is supposed to be the name of your first pet in the street you grew up on.

But he went a different way.

John

Robert Francis Prevost of Chicago, taking on the name of Pope Leo XIV.

Johnny (narrating Desi Lydic's segment)

Leo XIV?

Did he choose it the way we pick a new email address?

Desi.lytic is taken?

OK, what about Desi.lytic 2?

Really?

Three?

Really?

Four?

Five?

Fine, Desi.lytic14.

Very good.

News Voice Over 2

But

Johnny (narrating Desi Lydic's segment)

yes, Robert Privo's new name is Leo the 14th, which sucks for him because he just got his real ID.

Dang it.

Now, I've always found this odd.

The church is so conservative on gay issues, but then they turn around and make its leader choose a drag name.

But after he picked his pope name, he came out and gave his first speech in both Italian and Spanish about the need for unity and peace on earth.

Extra Commentator

This is good.

So

Johnny (narrating Desi Lydic's segment)

cue

Extra Commentator

peace

Johnny (narrating Desi Lydic's segment)

and unity in three, two, one.

Extra Commentator

I would have loved for the first pope from America to say something in English.

Caller 1

I

Extra Commentator

was a little surprised that a Chicago native did not say a few words in English.

Caller 1

He's talking Spanish.

He's an American.

And he didn't even speak in English.

He spoke

Extra Commentator

in Latin, Spanish, and Italian did not speak in

Caller 1

English.

He did not speak in English.

I mean, I don't know how you claim that this is an American Pope if you won't even speak in a native tongue.

That to me was very disturbing.

Johnny (narrating Desi Lydic's segment)

Wow.

Yes, yes.

Caller 1

How

Johnny (narrating Desi Lydic's segment)

dare you.

If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for the Pope.

Change.

Come on, does it really matter what language he speaks?

It's church.

You're going to be sleeping through it anyway.

And besides, there's gonna be plenty of other stuff for conservatives to throw a tantrum about.

Additional Commentator

There's some tweets that when the Pope was still a cardinal that are getting a lot of attention online that are politically charged.

Desi Lydic

This one is directly rebuking J.D.

Vance.

The new Pope, Pope Leo XIV, said J.D.

Vance is wrong.

Johnny (narrating Desi Lydic's segment)

The new Pope is not like J.D.

Vance.

He really is an everyday American.

Be careful, though, father.

If you piss off JD Vance, he's going to pay you a

Gordy

visit.

Uh-oh.

Yeah, that's not going to end up well.

That's Desi Lydic from Daily Show.

That's fantastic.

Johnny

It is.

It is good stuff.

And my mega friend in Milwaukee sent me a post where it

Listed why he is a conservative very conservative Pope and that he is a right winger.

He's a mega Okay, and then then I saw this list from Laura Loomer who is a right wing zealot crazy person and this is her post, okay?

This is the new Pope.

His name is Robert Prevost.

He's the first American Pope.

He is anti-Trump, anti-Mega, pro-open borders, and a total Marxist like Pope Francis.

I don't know where my mega friend got his information.

But anyway, not listening to Laura Loomer apparently.

Catholics don't have anything good to look forward to.

Just another Marxist puppet in the Vatican.

Wow.

All right.

All right.

And then, of course, Dan Shafer, who's here at Civic Media, he mentioned also that the Pope was a teacher in Waukesha County.

Oh, really?

In a conible walk.

I didn't know that.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's terrific.

But you know, this Laura Loomer post was really funny because Joe, who was a regular poster on X, she said this, she said, this response about, okay, she said,

Is she gonna try to get the Pope fired?

We're listing this, Laura Loomer.

Laura Loomer trying to get the Pope fired?

God, that is great stuff.

You know people just take these strange look set

Gordy

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Okay.

Got a couple of minutes here.

All right.

But not

Johnny

enough time for Tim Waltz.

I told you yesterday I was going to get to Tim Waltz.

Yeah.

Because he was on with

Jen Psaki.

Gordy

Okay.

Johnny

All right.

Yes.

And we do have a cut coming up in just a few moments.

All right.

But I do want to get this.

Here's why the U.S.

needs universal health care coverage.

This is crazy stuff.

The Oklahoma governor, Kevin Stitt, vetoed a bill to expand breast cancer exam options.

in the great state of Oklahoma.

On Tuesday, he vetoed House bill legislation that would clarify which breast cancer examinations health insurance providers must pay.

His veto message states that his decision stemmed from concerns over costly insurance mandates that he argued would ultimately raise premiums for workers.

Hmm.

So while early detection and access is a good thing, this legislation imposes new and costly insurance mandates on private health care plans.

Wow.

We got to protect those insurance companies.

Right?

I mean, we got to save them some money.

Oh, sure.

Yeah.

So let's, you know, let's keep that, that breast cancer examination down.

Okay.

Boy.

Gordy

This is

Johnny

why we need universal health

Gordy

care.

Yes.

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past the hour.

Beautiful sunshine.

Start this Friday.

Let's check out the rest of the weather with our WMDX chief meteorologist, Brittany Merlo.

Good morning, Brittany.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Good morning.

How are you guys doing?

John (host)

We're doing really nice.

Looking forward to a fantastic weekend.

I'm sure you're not going to disappoint us.

Right?

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

No, I just got a rocket full of sunshine for everybody.

All right.

Nice.

Yeah.

How nice will

John (host)

it

Host

be?

Yeah.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Too nice.

How's that?

Is that possible?

We'll take it.

SPEAKER_??

No.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Yeah, after a crisp and cold morning, what we hit 32 degrees this morning, the freezing mark, frost advisories out there.

And now we're finally above that 37 degrees at the moment.

We're going to make it to 70 today.

Super sunny.

Unknown Speaker

I mean,

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

that's going to be the case pretty much for the rest of the week as well into the weekend.

We're looking at 73 degrees tomorrow.

76 on Saturday or a Sunday for Mother's Day.

Yeah.

And then we climb into the 80s next week.

Commentator

Yeah.

Wow.

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

I know.

I know.

And we're holding off on all rain.

It looks like a cold front moving through tonight in the northern part of the state makes its way towards us in the morning tomorrow.

But really, no rain is going to be produced from that.

So we're going to hold off on all rain chances pretty much until Tuesday and Wednesday of next week.

Host

So pretty dry, but warm period ahead of us.

Does that mean we have burned bands back?

Do you think

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

that's

Host

happening?

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Yes, it does.

Unfortunately, a good chunk of the states and it's very, very high fire danger.

And that's going to last at least until next weekend, I think, because we need some more significant rain.

And that looks to move in by Sunday next weekend.

John (host)

Well, it looks like I won't have to burn off my yard.

What?

You were going to burn it off?

You were going to start your yard on the

Unknown Speaker

fire?

John (host)

You know, I did that on

Unknown Speaker

accident

Host

when I was a

Unknown Speaker

kid.

I've never heard of doing it on purpose.

John (host)

Have you alerted the neighbors?

You know that I'm not a big fan of my lawn.

So you're just going to give it up and burn it off?

Accidentally burn it, yes.

But the conditions aren't right for it now, so I can't do it.

OK.

Unknown Speaker

No, I know what you meant.

You meant cleaning up the yard and then burning the debris, didn't you?

John (host)

Yes, that's exactly what I meant, sure.

Yep,

Unknown Speaker

let's go with that.

Don't do that either.

Host

Okay, well, Brittany, you enjoy the weather this weekend.

We'll talk to you on Monday, all right?

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Sounds good.

You guys have a great weekend.

Thanks,

Host

Brittany.

That's Brittany

Brittany Merlo (meteorologist)

Merlot, our

Host

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right, now we're gonna get to a cut from Tim Walls here.

He's telling it like it is.

He's explaining what reality is really like.

Oh my gosh, really?

From a politician.

Let's go for it.

Commentator

I you know, I don't know this for my amateur psychologist I think he listened to one class when he was back in the 80s or something at Wharton in his six months there or whatever and he misreads this It's a ludicrous philosophy.

No one agrees with him and then they come back to well Democrats put terrorists on yes, they're a tool They're a scalpel you can use them when you have unfair practices, but he's talking about the thing that drives me insane With working with Canada and Mexico.

He's the guy who negotiated the deal and then he turns around

and says, well, we don't care much about Ken.

I was glad to see the Prime Minister coming into the...

Saying from Canada saying are you out of your mind?

What would your biggest trading partner?

They are our biggest trading partner in Minnesota.

There are dearest friends There they're who we care about he has no concept This goes back to that idea so many Americans thought you know We need to hire a businessman to run government like business two things about that are wrong No, we don't need to run government like a business because we're not in the profit-making We're in the proving lives and looking towards the future and this guy has a proven track record of being an

Absolute failure and I think the opening for Democrats is is to work with the business community my I am home to many large fortune 500 companies that are put at risk by this and I'll just say this I'm calling these folks out.

They need to stand up He threatens them.

He threatens, you know universities.

Thank goodness Harvard standing up to them

But that's how he gets things done.

He doesn't get it done through competency.

He doesn't get it done through results.

He gets it done through fear intimidation.

And I'm with you.

I wish he could have been weirdly obsessed with like pickleball or something rather than tariffs.

That's where he could spend his time.

But it's on this tariff thing that doesn't

John (host)

work.

That's that's a great commentary.

You know, he's talking about Trump making all his really, really bad decisions.

He he does treat the country like it is a business and he has bankrupted his businesses.

So I'm not quite sure I like the idea myself.

Right.

And why are we listening to him on this?

He really doesn't know what he's doing.

And again, it's this thing where, remember, Doge has been talking about how the government is losing money.

Well, it's not losing.

It's not there to make money.

It's there to serve the public regardless.

So anyway, that's my little rant on that.

Unknown Speaker

You know, I think we could use a couple more pickleball courts.

John (host)

Yeah, I wish you had followed pickleball.

Hey, I got a cut here.

This is really fantastic.

This shows our orange God and what he knows about the world.

He thinks Mattel is a country.

Let's listen to cut 68.

Cut 68, according to the outline that I've supplied.

We have

Unknown Speaker

time

John (host)

for

Host

it.

John (host)

I

Unknown Speaker

don't know.

I'm not so sure.

They also said they're the only country I've heard.

They said, well, we're going to go counter.

We're going to try and go someplace else.

That's OK.

Mattel.

Let him go.

And we'll put 100% tariff on his toys.

And he won't sell one toy in the United States.

And that's the biggest market.

I heard that.

I mean, I watched this guy talking about how I'm going to go counter.

I said, well, I wouldn't want to have him as an executive too long.

John (host)

He was talking about the executive CEO of Mattel saying that they make their toys and everything in other countries

Unknown Speaker

to

John (host)

keep the price down.

They do the designs and marketing ideas here in this country.

But again, he thinks Mattel, the guy, the CEO is the president of a country named Mattel.

All right?

This is the guy in charge.

Host

OK,

John (host)

coming up right around the corner.

OK, I'm

Host

walking.

Take a deep breath.

Because coming up next, Rocker is

John (host)

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Host

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Catherine (caller)

I'm sorry to interrupt, Tim.

I know you've got lots of important educational stuff to talk about.

I just wanted to tell the guys because they don't have monitors in their studio.

You just missed a promo from Pete that made me laugh out loud.

He talks about Nate Bragazzi, who you love, Gordy, right?

Gordy's Co-Host

Oh yeah, Nate Bragazzi, yeah.

Who

Catherine (caller)

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Nate apparently talked about Disney and how it's run by a corporation, not by a really funny person.

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It may, it may seem that it turns out that Nate has more ambition than talent or something

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Catherine (caller)

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I couldn't believe it.

I thought it would make you laugh.

Unidentified Caller/Guest

Really?

Catherine (caller)

That's funny.

But also, Tim, you know, I know you're not in town right now, but you should come to the night market because I know John Peterson is going to be there.

Unidentified Caller/Guest

That's

Catherine (caller)

right.

To display his protest.

And stop making fun of it, John.

For God's sakes, it's fun.

Gordy's Co-Host

OK.

All right.

John Gordy

It's

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a

John Gordy

lot of fun.

He

Gordy's Co-Host

actually has not committed to being there tonight still.

He's still on the fence.

Yes, you're going to be there.

I'll probably be there.

You're

Catherine (caller)

probably there.

It's a directive.

You have

Gordy's Co-Host

to be

Catherine (caller)

there.

John Gordy

Boss has spoken.

Catherine (caller)

Have fun with Tim.

John Gordy

All right.

We will.

We will.

Thank you, Catherine.

Wow.

Dr. Tim Slecker

I

John Gordy

know.

I know.

What do you think, Tim?

What's your

Dr. Tim Slecker

impression?

I think if you go to the night market, you should bring a liquid lawyer.

Yeah.

I'm still kind of trapped on that wondering.

What is that?

Yeah, you

Gordy's Co-Host

know.

John's been known to carry a flask in the hip

Dr. Tim Slecker

pocket,

Gordy's Co-Host

so

John Gordy

why not?

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The kids won't mind to

John Gordy

come up and spin the wheel.

Yeah, I'm often talking about people's rights.

My right to drink and bubbly.

All right, well.

Well, Tim, if anybody has, and I'm sure they have, checked out your podcast, you and Johnny have been going at it for AI.

You know, one of these days,

I think you guys are gonna just get in the mat, get a ring and

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The thing is, I wanted to ask you, I know that you guys are debating about it and I'm not quite sure where Johnny is on this whole thing.

But the thing is, do you think this kind of discussion is going on around the nation as well with other educators trying to figure this thing

Dr. Tim Slecker

out?

That's a good question.

I think that actually no.

And I think that that's a real problem.

Because, you know, it is fun and funny and, you know, hustling with Johnny going back and forth

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that.

But if you if you listen to the issues we're talking about, I mean, they're really, you know, relevant and

So from my side or my standpoint, which is that this is a huge transformative cultural moment that has a real ability to make things, I hopefully better.

And my point of being very pro AI is to make sure that we're ahead of it and having these discussions so that potentially a lot of the harms that are.

potentially out there with AI, that by having really long open discussions back and forth is so that you can be aware.

But I will say that, maybe put it to this way, I think K-12 schools are actually much better and much more informed in going forward in ways

um that are positive maybe more like johnny and i having these discussions and that higher education though is really lacking and mostly from the standpoint and i think this goes to the article that we were really discussing is is that higher education continues to simply be this unmovable object that says we like the way we do things and and darn it don't mess with us because

We it's a proven product that you know and and and this is where you know Johnny It's been hitting me is like I'm the faculty hater or something like this is but I you know My brethren in the college ranks.

I I know way too many who kind of look at AI and really make this statement of going I'm so good AI would never replace me

And if anybody went to college, I'm pretty sure that most of us would go, you know what, a lot of those professors, they weren't so good.

They stood in front of the class.

They talked about what they knew.

Maybe they have a PowerPoint that they've never updated, or maybe they still use the overhead projector.

because that's been a proven teaching method and you know they have exams that they've you know put together with such incredible care that you know why would they ever change their exams.

So there's both that and I think that particularly as I look at you know Sam and the the younger generation of students that are coming into this they

they're not very much in in the mind that goes well they're just a professor you know we have to accept this i think they're kind of going like okay this stinks why would i you know if i could take this course somewhere else so hey there's a whole lot there you got me streaming thinking in my head right now but

I think there should be way more conversations about the depth of how we're doing this.

And I think higher education, those institutions that are doing it, they're going to be the ones that are going to thrive in the future because I can't think of any job that isn't going to have some type of connection to AI and having AI impact what it means to do the jobs that we're all doing.

So, I don't know, maybe I said a whole bunch of nothing.

John Gordy

No, actually, let me ask you, the difference between a classroom K through 12 or a classroom in college, is there a way to integrate that AI in college?

It seems like it would be a little more difficult in that situation.

Dr. Tim Slecker

Well, I break it down to this is maybe look at you know, what are the majors that students take in college, right?

And so with that you say so what jobs are the majors most likely to take and then you move out and say okay of those jobs Let's go out and talk to the industries of who are hiring our graduates

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Dr. Tim Slecker

ask them about how they're using AI That's right, and that's where you're going to hear them going

Well, yeah, we use it every day.

And then you ask the college faculty that are preparing students in that major and say, are you using AI to prepare these students for the jobs that they're likely to take?

And if the answer is yes, well, then that's a good thing.

But I feel that there's still so much going like, and this isn't even AI.

There's a resistance with a lot of faculty

to not be in the, I'm not preparing you for a job.

Right.

I'm preparing you to be a deep thinker.

That was,

John Gordy

that's in one of your podcasts, your recent podcast, right?

I mean, you're learning from the private sector what you need to teach in school.

Yeah.

Dr. Tim Slecker

Yeah.

And you know, that's

people don't like to be in the business of preparing people for future success in life.

And we like to just talk about how awesome it is to sit around and think.

John Gordy

Well, you know, they're still working on, you know, training high schoolers to be welders.

I think, you know, it's time, it's time we bring in AI, right?

That that element into the high schools to at least get people understand how that's going to be part of industry.

Dr. Tim Slecker

I'll give you an example from industry though because I'm you know on this on the side I've actually been doing a little bit of consulting with industry in AI and in the manufacturing process of this private industry that I've been working with.

They have a floor, you know, manufacturing area and they have a process and to prepare the either the floor text to work on that process or the managers of those factories, they have training materials that say, here's what you do.

Here's what you don't do.

Here's how you mix this certain chemical batch.

Hey, if this goes wrong, here's what you do.

Those training manuals now.

they're not very good at preparing people to do well as workers.

And so I was showing them how to take those training manuals and turn those training manuals into a handheld bot that they can actually integrate and ask.

Hey, I'm standing here on machine A. What should I do?

Let's take these training materials and turn them into a two minute video that helps people really learn what's in those manuals.

How do we turn these manuals into a podcast?

And so here at a facility that is some people will go, why would they care about AI?

Well, because actually the training materials can be converted and become much more effective at keeping your

people, you know, more efficient.

And if you're talking about a business, that that's just really key.

So when I did this presentation at this industry, it all of a sudden clicked on people are like, wait, we could use AI to do this, we could use AI

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And, and, you know, then they were thinking, and somebody made the comment of going like, our

our future workers who are in, you know, either training programs or colleges.

Holy crap, I wonder if they're getting this type of training.

And so industry is thinking about this and it is changing.

So I just think that, you know, having deep conversations about the ethics is absolutely worth it.

But I think there's a reality of saying industries are already doing this.

And so if in college, we're preparing a large portion of the graduates to become

professionals or workers, how is it that those majors are being impacted by the use of AI out in industry?

And how do we then adapt and adopt the curriculum to make sure that students are getting the preparation?

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Talking to Dr. Tim Schlecker here.

We just have a minute or so left here, Tim, but we're getting a couple of texts about AI.

This one from Curt in Madison saying, AI is going to make individuals even more intellectually lazy.

Please explain how AI is going to improve critical thinking skills.

I just don't see it happening, not to mention killing reading skills.

I don't know about that.

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on it and

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maybe it

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maybe you

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know

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just points out a couple of things that we hadn't even thought about so

Dr. Tim Slecker

exactly that that's not a an invalid concern you know maybe next time we could talk more about that yeah so we're out of time for now though dr. Tim's

John Gordy

always hold Tim over if you want to you got a couple more

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minutes Tim

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so I got a

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few

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more yeah why don't we try that let's do that let's pick

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up the topic after the break we'll be back with dr. Tim slecker John and Gordy

John

John and Gordy's Media World again, right here on WMDX, 92.7.

And right now we're talking to Tim Slecker from Busted Pencils and we want to continue the conversation in regards to AI and will it make people intellectually lazy?

What do you think,

Tim Slecker

Tim?

That's assuming people aren't already.

They won't make them.

They're already there.

All right, I'll try to get to this quickly.

Even within that joke, though, is the reality of going, have schools, have its education ever really done a great job?

with that.

You know, I think that's debatable.

When people make that claim, I think that's more personally about who they are and how they think.

And then when they use AI, they see that it could and potentially, and I don't disagree, that it can create shortcuts that would actually then take away students engaging in skills that are actually really needed.

Um to move this along however, I would say in you guys, you know made this comment be either in between the brakes it Comes down to like anything.

How do you use it and what is the intention be how between?

about how it's being used because I see nothing but expanding and deepening and actually enticing more critical thinking because of the way it can actually get you to think about things you didn't consider when you put it in there.

But that also then requires that we prepare students about how to ask better questions, how to dig deeper.

And so that to me says is that that goes back to just what does it mean to be a good teacher, to have a good education curriculum is, is that are we developing that intellectual curiosity?

Because somebody who has intellectual curiosity, AI

expands and actually creates this sense of going I didn't know I could ask these questions I didn't know I could dig this way I didn't know that I can put together these two things and ask it to find out what are the commonalities between this so it's an incredibly powerful tool.

Will it potentially be used by people to shortcut around things that they should have known?

Absolutely, but you know, guess what?

From the the yellow cliff notes when it came to reading Shakespeare in the 80s, I used them.

Yeah, you know,

Gordy

yeah, we

Tim Slecker

all do.

Yeah.

And so, you know, if there is a shortcut to doing sometimes, and this is the other thing.

doing sometimes meaningless work that is really just busy work, people will find shortcuts.

So this really comes down to the institutions of learning to really start to reimagine what is it they're asking students to do.

And if it is something that AI could do much easier,

then maybe the assignment, maybe the activity you're engaging in needs to be adapted to recognize now that actually being lazy is really easy.

but maybe the assignments were actually encouraging lazy intellectual curiosity.

John

That's true.

You know, I guess when you were first talking about this way back when you did bring up a few examples of, you know, what students would experience if they entered this into AI and got a response back, a lot of the students would question immediately some of the information that they did see from the AI answer and actually maybe even create a curiosity.

about that information so they Investigate to find out if it's true or not or how true it is or if there's even more information tied to that situation, right?

Tim Slecker

Right, but but I mean again, you know that is the intention Stephen do that and as you're saying that now John I mean, you know, how about just a simple assignment where?

You know, we put together a list of quote facts and engage students in saying okay

Are these true?

And if so, how do you know?

Here's an AI tool, go.

And then come back and tell us what you learned about.

Oh, this fact, this is nonsense.

In fact, here's what we found out.

That inspires critical thinking, digging, research skills, learning what it says, right?

So I understand the fact that there are going to be students who are going to say, oh my God, this is a shortcut and I'm going to use it.

Okay, that's always going to happen.

So, but we need to then think about going, maybe it's the assignments and the workload that we've been giving that we now need to change and recognize that, you know what this.

This is way more efficient than those yellow cliff notes that we had.

They always ran

Gordy

out on the ones that you really needed for the next day's assignment.

Go to the store and

Tim Slecker

they're all

Gordy

gone.

John

Society didn't collapse

Tim Slecker

because of the cliff notes either.

No, no, it didn't.

But you know, Sam said the store in the break.

The other part though too is if you have a critical thinking base and so yeah, we need to really develop critical thinking and maybe that's outside of AI, but I can tell you the other part is is that.

If you really know something, like I said, I just enjoy the way it expands my thinking about the things I think I already know a lot about.

John

That's right.

I remember the discussion was, you know, come up with a topic on Abraham Lincoln and quotes from Abraham Lincoln.

Tim Slecker

Remember that

John

example?

And then, you know, Abraham Lincoln's dialogue in the movie Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter, which turned up in

Gordy

the

John

research.

Not a good thing,

Gordy

so don't include

John

that.

Gordy

No.

Dr. Tim Slager, we need to leave it there.

People can find your podcast on the Civic Media app and also through wmdxradio.com.

It's on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays with new podcasts

Tim Slecker

and then Saturdays

Gordy

as well.

Hour long program.

Tim, always great to talk to you.

Thanks, guys.

Appreciate it.

Talk to you next Thursday.

Yeah.

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