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Good morning
to you.
Cardi.
How you doing, man?
Man, you know, my favorite expression is it's Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday, man.
I've been waiting for this day all week.
Well, I'm going to ask yourself.
Yeah,
actually, actually, Cardi, all you have to do to get to Friday is survive Thursday and Wednesday.
Yeah.
So it's Friday.
That means my co-host Sandy Williams is on board.
Hey, don't I know you?
Yeah, good to see you, old friend.
It's been a little while.
It's good to see you.
Man, we've got a lot to talk about, but before we get into all those things, the Buck game the other day, I'm at the Buck game, and it's a listless performance, Sandy.
To say that it's listless.
I mean, nothing's happening.
They're down by 24.
There's a hole in the boat.
And for all the world, it just looks like, hey, man, they really had won three or four games in a row, but this was coming to an end.
I'm sure when you left, my good neighbors in those seats, Doc and they left.
Yeah.
But
they would have accused you of doing a Sandy Williams.
I always leave it about the middle of the third quarter, which was absolutely the wrong time to leave that game.
Well, they left first.
Oh, they
did.
Yeah.
He said, I can't take any more of this.
He said,
Doc and Temple are fun and they're regulars and.
Yeah.
He said, I can't take any more of this.
You know, he's, he's an eternal book fan, right?
He believes in it.
Oh yeah.
He said, I've had enough of this and I, and I, and I, and I'm looking around.
It's 24 points down.
Well, come on, man.
Why am I, and others started leaving and, uh, by the time I get home, I had some, something happen.
Yeah.
Well, and they won by 10 points.
Think
nine or ten points.
Yeah.
Well, Sandy, let me tell you what it is when they put Porter on the court.
Yeah, when they put What's the what's the the backup shooting guard?
John's
Trent.
Oh Trent Gary Trent.
Yeah, yeah when they put Kuzma Kuzma and when they put
green out there.
They can get after it.
I mean, defensively, they're quick, they're fast, they're athletic, and they can put pressure on the other team, and that's kind of, they found this now.
Oh, and then Porter, and then Porter's.
Yeah, Bobby Porter.
Yeah,
and then they put
Porter's out there with those other those other four sending this they're short They're quick they're lethal and that's what happened
Yeah, I think I think they're gonna be able to contend with now
teams of different types.
I mean, there were there were some team types that they, you know, the Cavaliers, they just couldn't face up against.
But maybe now they can, you know, they've got it.
They've got a different, a whole different kind of play that they can participate in.
Instead of that deliberate half court play, they can do something else.
You know, Sandy, and it's amazing that doing this without being Lilich.
Yeah.
And and and and you kind of see now.
That with Lillert That they're kind of locked into a type of play I'm not saying that they can Lillert should be Jettison or anything.
I'm not nuts But but they can play a different type of up speed up temple Even if he's not there
Yeah, so I thought I'm hopeful I think I think the playoffs could they could be a surprise in the playoffs and they could surprise us I think all of us thought maybe one and done would be almost the the fate they might experience again But I think they might get a little deeper.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was to say the least I Enjoy watching them now.
I watched them last night on television.
They were doing the same thing.
They were just They were playing against the team
that has five of its players star players on injured reserve and New Orleans only brought eight players Sandy to the rodeo
Wow,
and and and the books were struggling with them for two and a half quarters.
They only had eight players and and then the dams broke and
and the books just exploded.
So, you know, they're entertaining to say the least.
And they're, to be quite frank with you, they're healthy at the right time, except for Lillert and Sims going into, Yannis is healthy.
Right?
They'll get Sims back.
Lillert is, the time period for deep, deep vein thrombosis is kind of hard to predict.
But you're doing something today that's pretty profound, Earl.
I think you're involved with, what is it you were telling me about?
So the
special ed prom, Sandy.
You know, I've got on my voices at the Elder's shirt.
Yeah.
And my guys, which you're a part of, we're going to be over at Washington High School.
We're going to get there around noon.
And we are going to help transform that cafeteria, Sandy, into
I don't know, you probably don't know anything about... Wicked.
Wicked is... Oh,
yeah, sure.
The movie
that's
a big hit.
My granddaughter has watched that several times at my house,
so yeah.
So we're going to transform the cafeteria to look like Wicked.
And... Well, to
be Wicked, all you'd have
to do is just hang around.
Come on, man.
And so, and so Sandy, I'm thrilled.
You know, every year we do this, having all those young people whose lives, you know, for at least this day, they're normal and nobody looks at them with a generous eye and just seeing all of them together and reunited is like.
So these are all just,
these are.
these are special students special needs kids all of whom are what what kind of age range
are they so there's not just especially uh children it goes probably probably sandy i'd say maybe eight to forty
oh nice so it's a so it's a dress-up party
for
for a bunch of bunch of people who don't have a chance to do that
yes
sir
yes that's fantastic catered catered
catered dinner, um, you know, a dance.
Um, they met Sandy.
It's just the families come.
We have an area where, uh, Sandy, if they didn't have prom dress, their prom dresses there.
Uh, and if they don't have suits, we have suits as a place where they can get suits for the night.
Free of charge there.
Yeah, it's fantastic.
They're women there Sandy who do the makeup Who who do and then they're different kind of jewelry and stuff better.
It's it's a and it's a city-wide And is it what is
it tomorrow night?
No, it's tonight.
Oh, it's
tonight Yeah, seven seven o'clock tonight.
I contacted all of the news outlets So it should be prominently displayed on all of the local
news outlets, they'll be there.
Um, and, and so Sandy, you know,
maybe I'll come by this afternoon and
help you just
decorating.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll do that.
Yeah.
And, and it's, it's just a whole theme of it.
And, and many of these props, Sandy have been made by the art instructors and the special ed students themselves.
The art instructors across the district help create.
All of this beauty that you're going to see where we transform the cafeteria and so
if there was federal funding for this I suppose you'd be wanting
federal federal funding That's good.
It's it's all it's all through through donations and Sandy I've been at it for a while.
I remember when I first got involved in it The budget was $500 and they had cookies and Kool-Aid and and I remember saying
to, it's my alma mater, Washington High School is where this is going to be.
Right, the per gold.
Yeah, the per golders.
Yeah.
Let's get it, get it straight, Sandy Williams.
Oh, okay.
The Washington High School per golders.
Per
golders,
per
golders, that's right.
Yeah,
yeah.
Well, Sandy, per
golders.
Ders,
yeah, I got that.
Yeah, okay.
Well, and that part at the end is particularly upper pro, older.
And so, man, I'll tell you, man, you'll see these young people and these people who haven't seen each other for a year, and they come, and man, they embrace, and they give each other high fives, and they, oh, man, it's good to see you, hey, man, hey, hey!
And nobody's, and they're not sitting in the corners.
as they do with the normal, with the so-called normal people at the normal prom, right?
Because nobody's looking at them with a jaundice eye, Sandy.
They're free, and you see them blossom.
Because, you know, we look at people, Sandy, who are disabled, and we sometimes think because somebody's in a body that's, you know, kind of tormented, that they are not normal people, Sandy,
right?
and that their thoughts and all those kind of things aren't like anybody else's, but they are.
No, absolutely.
It's a wonderful thing.
You've got so many different avenues that you're pursuing to make the world better, but this one, I think...
It's my
favorite.
Yeah, and people misunderstand so badly, and who knows?
Someone could accuse this of being a DEI activity, but it's... Well,
you know who I
like.
you're right yeah and and you know and and the government funded and and we can't afford to not what it is right yeah but man i look forward to seeing you there but we got a we got business to take care of uh a lot of business it's only been a week sandies a week since the last time we were on the air
And things have happened, man.
Well, actually,
it's been two weeks, and in two weeks, unbelievable
things have happened.
But
actually, we could say that if it was day before yesterday.
The rate at which things are happening and falling apart is dramatic.
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Sandakin Years.
Oh, yeah.
So let me ask you.
So Esther Ringling Brothers Barnum and Bailey.
Well, that's
the
March of the Gladiators, which is commonly used as the opening theme song for circuses.
worldwide and since, you know, this expression that sort of started before Trump was elected, which was, you know, if you put a clown in the White House, he doesn't become king.
The White House becomes a circus.
And I think that's what we're watching right now is a circus.
And it's not a nice one.
It's not a good one.
But there's definitely a circus.
Well, you know, Sandy, we're going to go a lot of different places.
But all I can ever do is go back to the warnings that that you constantly gave Over the years to me and even over these airways about what could happen if in fact this Donald Trump got an office and and Sandy the What you what you alluded to
It's actually happening.
Okay.
So now it's happening.
What do we do?
Well, and that's that's what everyone's asking themselves.
I mean Business leaders are calling their senators trying to get their word their their opinions into the White House to try and quiet this this craziness because it's cost
the the the people who have wealth six trillion dollars in wealth in terms of the erosion of value of the stock market but it's much worse than that because it's it's created an environment of uncertainty that you can't dispel by changing your mind because the more you do that the more people realize that it's the whim of this one guy that's
that's regulating the day.
He wakes up on one side of the bed and does something and wakes up on the other side of the bed the next day and does something else.
And when you change your mind repeatedly, you end up with a...
An atmosphere of uncertainty that destroys business confidence about the future and what the future is going to be and it's that confidence about what the future is going to be that is the most important ingredient to businesses making investments business making big decisions.
Normally, when people think that the country is going to have higher tariffs, it strengthens the currency that company and that country.
And yesterday, the value of the dollar fell, which just shows you that the rest of the world and the people who trade in currencies and the people who trade in debt instruments are exceedingly
disappointed with the United States right now and are trying to evacuate from US held securities yesterday the yield on government instruments went up dramatically which means the price went down which meant people were selling them and the people who were selling them undoubtedly included foreign countries who hold foreign debt I mean who hold US debt and so what
what these people are telling us and the thing is about the stock market is maybe there's no one single person in the stock market or the bond market that's brilliant but you take the millions of decisions that are made daily in the stock market and the bond market and those millions of decisions are brilliant because it's the combined judgment of many many people trying to assess what's going on and that assessment.
is very very troubling for the United States.
So Sandy, for the average American, who doesn't have any money in the stock market, who doesn't know, what is this a sign of for them?
Okay, if people with money are horrified and worry, what does that say then for the average American?
Who doesn't understand that language you just use?
Well, yeah, their portfolios don't drop.
But their prognosis for the future gets much cloudier.
These companies that are in this realm of uncertainty are not going to add new jobs to the payroll.
They're not going to make additional investments in their businesses.
Because in order to do those things, they have to be certain that there's going to be a return on the expenditure they make for the new employee, for the investment in the business.
And so things are going to freeze.
And they're going to get stuck where they are.
And when things get stuck where they are, it doesn't stay that way.
They go down.
OK, recessions are built from businesses being stuck in the position of not being able to make decisions about the future.
And so business confidence dropped.
The probability of recession being predicted by all kinds of sage financial predictors has gone way up.
you know, the
we've done so he's done so much damage to the image not just the image but the reputation of the united states from the standpoint of a military alliance as well as being an economic trading partner that people the rest of the world is trying very hard and very quickly to make us as irrelevant as possible and in particular to try and get out of being dollar dependent because this dollar is no longer such a such a
non-volatile thing that can have, in which they can rest great confidence.
It's confidence in the dollar that has been the basis for the dollar as the reserve currency.
You know Sandy, the more you, there were celebrations the day before Donald Trump came on and he said, when he backed down, when he backed down.
Yeah.
And he clearly tried to make it appear as though, you know, well, people were shaky and people weren't willing.
So he listened, Sandy.
He actually listened to somebody because it changed.
It changed for, if only for a short period of time, it made him back off.
So who was he listening to?
And what was he hearing?
Well, I mean, the whole problem is that this man doesn't have a basis for general having...
consulting advice from a broad panel of wise people.
It's the last person to talk to him.
It's his gut.
It's his instinct.
And that's what's wrong with authoritarian governments.
Does the United States and all of its people want to depend on the whim of one person?
Or would we rather that the policies that are adopted are the result of a great deal of deliberate thought?
Clearly, when he backed off, it wasn't the basis of a lot of deliberate thought.
And the stock market the next day scratched its head and said, you know what?
We're gonna sell
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Isn't it rich?
Are we a pair?
Me here at last on the ground, you and me there.
Send in the clowns Is it bliss?
Don't you approve?
One who keeps tearing around One who can't move
Yeah, the clowns are in the White House.
We know where they
are.
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That's the same number.
That's Frank Sinatra.
Yep.
The one and only Frank Sinatra.
You know, as Friday, that means Friday's my co-host, Sandy Williams.
You know, Sandy, before we get back to things, Cardi played.
the rest of that first tune all the way through, I'm a sucker for brass in the symphony.
Always have been, always will be, and I didn't, that first tune that you played, to hear it all the way through,
and all that brass, man.
And that was, ironically, the military marching band, the US military marching band, which appropriately was playing the circus song, I guess, in today's world.
Oh, yeah.
Great music.
And so was his last one.
So Sandy, we're talking about what is on the horizon.
And I was reading some responses from a bunch of MAGA people.
who are still saying if they had to vote for Donald Trump again, they'd vote for him.
They love him.
Everything he's doing is great.
But also notice before we get into all these other things, Sandy, what happened to Elon Musk?
Yeah, well, you know,
where's he at?
you know the Psychologists there's a there's a thing they deal with called cognitive dissonance and it's and it's the inability of people to back off from a notion they had that Would otherwise suggest that they were foolish so hazing to get into a fraternity if you're hazed in doing all these crazy stupid things in order to enter the fraternity You your mind that makes two decisions either one.
I'm gonna get out of this.
I don't want to do this It's crazy or two.
I'm going to do this because
because joining the fraternity is such an important thing that I'm going to commit myself to it.
And that's the element of cognitive dissonance.
It's like, either I'm a fool or this is a really good idea.
And I think that MAGA people are all going to have to deal with the cognitive dissonance of trying to resolve in their mind what the reality is as compared to just simply trying to avoid a self-admission that would make them uncomfortable.
But I think it's going to happen as people watch what's going on.
And as I said to you before we went on the air, people have talked about and worried about how it is that the Trump administration could become authoritarian.
folks, it is authoritarian right now.
What we're watching happen, calling universities on the carpet for simply being liberal institutions under the guise of suggesting that they that they involve anti-Semitism, threatening to withhold federal funding from them in a manner that would be highly destructive in order for them to then acquiesce to policies that are simply the whim of the president.
bringing the rain of power down on law firms and demanding that these law firms either tow the line and do the kind of law that the president directs them to do.
One of the firms agreed to do $100 million of pro bono work at the instruction of the president.
And a couple of days ago, the president kind of whimsically said, you know, I think I'm going to instruct these law firms to do work on behalf of the coal industry.
What kind of a situation do we have where where the whim of the president can threaten to destroy major businesses?
unless they tow the line and and you know people can say well these these are just law firms well He's he's suggesting to these law firms that he will bar their clients
from being able to do business with the federal government if they don't come in and talk to him and reach an agreement with him of how they should behave going forward.
Yesterday,
He issued an executive order directing the Department of Justice to investigate two people who used to work in his administration whose crime was, one of them wrote a book that was negative about him and the other one appeared in Congress and testified in a manner that suggested that there were problems in the way he was suggesting that there were defects in the vote and that the vote was stolen.
He's directed
the Department of Justice to investigate these people, he's also said that the businesses who employ these people shall be barred from federal work in any fashion.
One of those people works for the University of Pennsylvania, and the other one works for a private business.
I mean, this is the kind of conduct that dictators who we would deride as being strong men of the worst sort would carry out.
This is repression.
So, Sandy, is this just a one-off, meaning once Donald Trump is gone, all things go back to normal?
Or is this a sign of the times?
Because whoever comes up next, if they're a Democrat, and they saw all of this damage that this man did, how can they resist going back and undoing?
Either the American public rebels against this and stands up.
Against it to make it clear that you can't operate like this or every incumbent president in the future Will be will be pushed by his party or her party to use all the tools of government that have been demonstrated to be effective and so you know That's what Donald Trump is demonstrating ways in which the tools of government can be used by an executive to to get their way Okay, and and so I think that either the American public says this is not okay
or this is going to be the kind of behavior we're going to see going forward from whoever it is that's in office.
So Sandy, we're talking about Donald Trump.
The Senate passed a budget that included this major tax cut.
And so you and I know you've talked about it all the time at the root of all the things that are being done as this major tax cut.
And so even though they've said from the beginning, we're not going to touch Medicaid.
We're not going to touch Social Security.
Sandy, they have no choice.
If they go through with this, they've got to touch those things, right?
Well, not only that.
But the budget includes this tax cut, which has a four and a half trillion dollar cost over a decade.
But the president announced that he wants the defense budget to go up by 160 billion dollars to over a trillion dollars.
So that 160 billion is probably going to eat up every dollar of savings and more that the DOGE commission is trying to find in the way of savings.
And so, you know, we've
Not only we're talking about decreasing revenue by much more than the doge savings could accomplish, but we're talking about increasing expenditures, at least in the defense side, by I think a number that is going to exceed any number that is actually
factually going to be saved by this these activities of the Doge committee.
So yeah, what we've got is an administration that is actually announcing and the Republican Party, which is backing the principle of having bigger deficits going forward and growing the national debt at a more rapid base.
You know, Sandy, at the same time, you know, when you when you look at all a tariff.
Terrorists and the impact that that's going to have and I was talking to somebody other well Earl.
That's only That's only China.
You know, he's he's not going to be dealing with anybody else.
It's only China for heaven's sakes
Well, it actually that isn't that isn't the case Paul Krugman had a very good article this morning in the New York Times.
No, he's implemented a 10% International
Tariff on every country that that in that exports to the United States those goods will bury 10 percent tariff born by the American buyers number one So that's in place and there's there's a higher
parrot tariff on aluminum and a whole bunch of the primary parts that go into things.
And so, no, we've got a tariff that if you disregard what he's done to China and you take the average tariff level and apply it across the board, that average tariff level is going to exceed the tariff that was the smooth holly tariff that sank the U.S.
economy in 1931.
So Sandy,
let's
paint a picture.
He
They they they passed this budget they get to four point five trillion dollars over ten years They cut we're going to be facing many say possibly a major recession and possibly epic recession Which is going to impact and affect the average American worker?
They're cutting the safety net Sandy at the same time they're cutting the safety nets
And of course a recession also robs the federal government of revenue which increases the deficit when you you have bigger deficits during recessions than you have during during boom periods And so you know the the prognosis is very very ugly and the notion that they would Decide that what Medicaid ought to be shrunk We ought to we ought to make sure that people who have no money get no medical care or what we're going to reinstate charity hospitals and ask hospitals to to give away
their services as an alternative to the government funding them.
That's a very chaotic kind of a process and an inhumane one, clearly.
But the lack of financial discipline that's being demonstrated by what's going on is
It's unbelievable.
You know, this is this is the furthest thing from the bedrock of a Republican principle.
So for people who so for people who don't know Sandy, I am frightened because as long as I've known you, I've never heard you speak in the manner that you're speaking now.
I've always heard you tempering your conversations on all of these things.
I would always say to you, recessions coming.
Oh, no, no, no, there's not.
Not going to be a recession.
I haven't ever heard you speak in the terms that you're speaking now
Well, you know because I've never seen purposeful conduct that is so clearly designed to destroy the economy as what's going on, but I mean we're watching arson
at work here.
This is not being done in the dark of night.
We're burning down our economy right now as we watch.
And it's a reckless experiment done by people who claim that while this pain in the near term is going to be possibly quite extreme, it's going to be worth it because it's going to change the entire world's economy and change trade in a manner that will bring many jobs back to America.
When the fact is that when you
evaluate those, all of those kind of objectives, and try to test how that could play out.
The odds of it playing out that way are infinitesimally small.
And the fact is that we're watching a reckless experiment with a very, very, very low likelihood of success, and a great deal of pain being experienced, and the pain
unfortunately, is experienced by Tom Dick and Mary, people who have no dog in the fight.
You know, Sandy, hang on, 8-5-5-7-5-2-48-42 is the number.
You know, again, Sandy, as I stated, it's despair is going to be the order of the day.
Regardless of what Trump and his people say,
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That's the same number.
That's probably what it means for my co-host, Sandy, the music, Sandy.
That music, if we'd let it go further, was an actual Barnum and Bailey sideshow call artist who was describing what it is that people might see if they went into the sideshow tent.
And unfortunately, I'm afraid that the White House has become something closer to a sideshow tent.
Sandy, you're painting this bleak picture.
And everything that I read in here, the rest of the world is worried.
And so this man has come in and upended basically the economy of the world he's attempting.
And as you stated, it's an experiment.
I heard one of them say on Meet the Press, it's an experiment.
Man, what are you talking about, man?
How do you experiment with people's lives?
Well, I mean, the problem is that you would experiment if you thought that the the economy was in such desperate states that you have nothing to lose by making some by essentially breaking it and trying to remake it.
But the problem with that is that the economy wasn't in desperate streets.
When when Donald Trump left the White House in 2020, he announced that he was leaving the strongest economy that had ever existed in the world.
And in 2024, he inherited a
an economy which was even stronger than the one that he left.
And so he himself had described the economy that he inherited as being the best ever.
And yet he's decided and tried to create a strong man out of it, saying it's in such horrible condition that we've got to take a hammer to it and remake it.
And that hammer has so much risk associated with it that the whole world's financial community is holding its nose and is having a great deal of problem with it.
The rest of the world is busily trying to make the United States as irrelevant as possible to it.
And of course, the strength that the American economy has had is that it is extremely relevant to the entire rest of the world.
Our foreign policy power
much of it is based on our largesse.
And Donald Trump has gone to great pains to destroy the notion of American largesse in the international world of international affairs.
And then in the world of international trade, he's basically said he's going to try and balkanize the world and block the people from having involvement in the U.S.
economy.
So he's implemented these across the board 10 percent tariff.
And that tariff is a significant impact.
He's also input special tariffs on aluminum and steel and a bunch of primary products and chips and things that are extremely important.
And China, which is a fundamental part of our supply chain, now has a prohibitive tariff on it.
And these things, there's a notion that the rest of the world is going to want to come and trade and give things up to the United States in exchange for avoiding this temperature.
tariff.
Well, the European Union average tariff on American imported goods is one and a half percent.
They can't get much lower than one and a half percent.
So this notion that there's going to be a Mar-a-Lago Accord and that all these countries are going to come forward and negotiate things and give America victories.
And kiss his backside.
Yeah, it's not gonna happen because they don't have anything to concede to us because they've already established a very fair and level playing field Peter Navarro would claim that the value added tax in in Europe is some kind of a barrier even though it's applied to every
Every automobile, for instance, made within the European Union, as well as the cars imported into the European Union.
They all pay the value added tax.
It's a sales tax paid by the customers.
So, you know, it's all based on fallacy.
This is what happens.
when you have an authoritarian ruler who can issue edicts by executive order, which are not based on sound advice from a knowledgeable counsel, but are simply based on instinct and whim.
So guys, hang on the phone lines.
We're going to come to all of you after the break.
You know, Sandy, in the meantime, when business leaders and others are threatened and they're worried,
What's happening with Donald Trump's business?
How is
he faring during all of this?
Well, I'm confident that Donald Trump's family enterprise put itself into cash several months ago is in a position to bottom feed in the low market.
Undoubtedly, if we did an investigation, my guess is that Eric and Donald Trump have been selling things short for a number of months, so they could profit from a downward spiraling market.
Donald Trump is way too sanguine about a collapsing market to not be profiting from it, okay?
He would be the first to worry if his money was
plummeting.
So it's pretty safe to say he'll come out of this smelling like a rose.
Well, he already is.
I mean, his cryptocurrency, the various policies that he's implemented, the deals that are being done by his enterprise abroad, yeah.
His net worth has already multiplied in the several months since he's been in office.
855-752-4842, guys were coming to the phone lines, you know, after the break.
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I know what that is.
I want to know the Smoky Robinson and the Miracles.
Welcome back to the Erlingham Show.
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Sandy, great music, by the way.
It's Friday.
That means Friday's my co-host, Sandy.
We have Sandy to music.
Well, it's about circuses.
If we didn't get far enough into it to understand that Smoky was going to talk about circuses.
My, you know, my concern is that what we've got going in the White House is something much closer to a circus than what we would all wish or hope for.
You know, Sandy, before we go to the phone lines and the phones have been jammed since the beginning, so thank you guys for hanging on.
Sandy, I was looking at this, products impacted by tariffs, leather products, wearing apparel, electric equipment, textiles, mineral products, metal, wood, plastics.
sanded it's everything that's everything
yeah and you know if you looked at the wearing apparel you know you can't buy shoes that are fabricated in the United States you can't buy
Textiles mostly that are fabricated in the United States and most of them are fabricated in places where there would it would be impossible to have a balance of payments Trade with them that was equal for instance Bangladesh Lots of textiles are made in Bangladesh people of Bangladesh don't have money to buy the things that America makes and it would be crazy to to assume that Bangladesh and the United States ought to have a balanced trade
balance between them.
The other thing about what's going on is Donald Trump is stoking another misconception.
He talks about deficits in the trade balance as if it translates into a debt that somehow the United States is building up debts because they have trade deficits.
The concepts are totally unrelated.
The deficit in trade that the United States has has nothing to do with the federal debt.
The deficit in trade we have is a function of
millions and millions of decisions made by individuals about what they buy and where that thing is made.
And it's that individual that is expending the money that needs to be spent to accomplish the purchase.
The only thing that could happen from an imbalance of trade would be potentially a depreciation in the value of the dollar if we had big deficits.
But of course, our dollar is very, very strong because it is the world reserve currency.
So Sandy, before we go to the phone lines and guys, I promise you I'm coming.
And so it's Peter Navarro looked at in the arena of intellectuals on economics.
It's Peter Navarro at the top of the list.
No, he's pretty much on the same list as Elon Musk had him take, which is
a moron.
Well,
Peter Navarro is a rogue.
He's a maverick.
He represents a theory that is not held in high regard or high repute.
You know, it's good that the...
that the economists of the world do not all have a unified position.
And of course, Peter Navarro's position is far from the consistent view of economists.
He's a maverick, okay?
All right, Charles, thank you very much for hanging on, man.
You won't talk about the tariffs, go ahead.
Hey, good morning, guys.
Great, great show.
Two points if I can make them.
The first one is on tariffs.
And Sandy, you're kind of here like arsonists.
You know, he intentionally set the fire to the building.
Then he comes in with this water hose, and he puts out the front of the house.
He leaves the back of the house burning, which would represent China.
Then he comes out and raises his hands and say, hey, I'm the hero.
And then the sad part is you got these non-news people on Fox News on Fox.
saying, oh, he's brilliant.
He's the dealmaker.
Look what he did.
I heard Horado on MSNBC.
I had to turn it off.
Like Donald Trump, this is exactly what he was planning to do.
He's not a dealmaker.
He's bankrupted all his businesses.
And the second point is, I believe that judges that are about the law, teachers that are being affected,
businesses that I've been affected with all this, DEI talk crap, and regular citizens, law firms need to be out in the streets, marching and protesting because this man is definitely out to destroy the company.
Hey, Charles.
I mean, to destroy the
country.
To
destroy
this
country,
yes.
Hey, Charles, thank you very much for the call.
Let's go to Cam from Appleton.
Good morning to Cam.
You say what?
Hey guys, real quick two things one is I don't think people quite understand that if ships are impacted at all Those are already pretty high demand Country like China are gonna Pull all of them in and make advancements faster than USA is able to at all period to I don't bring great pleasure in mentioning this but
the CECOT, the prison in El Salvador.
Last night I saw some people looking into it a bit and they're finding that using satellite imagery, if you look at the prison, you can see a section of the prison that is not present whenever any of our US new stations go over there.
It's just
gone, like the sheds are removed, the buildings are removed from that plot of land, but then they're present again and they leave.
And you can see blood stains painted all over the ground and north of the prison by a mile or a mile and a half, you can see what looks to be an area for them to dump bodies.
Well, Cam, thank you very much for the call.
Sandy, we know that it's an inhumane place, right?
Well, in fact, I think I think Donald Trump champions it as such essentially I mean there's very thinly veiled discussion about the nature of that prison and now he's talking about how much comfort he would take if he could deport us citizens who are arrested and he could deport them to such a place, you know
The reason people are being sent to a prison like that there is much the same reason that we had a dark place like Guantanamo where we could send prisoners and treat them in a manner that wasn't permitted on a U.S.
soil.
All right, Jim, you're up next from Brookfield.
Good morning, Sandy and Earl.
First of all, Earl, I just want to wish you well tonight with the Prime.
I hope that everything goes great.
Oh, hey, man, it will.
It's commendable.
Well, thank you.
Yeah.
And I just want to just voice my frustration of what apparently, I mean, it's become very obvious.
There's two types of standards for presidents, you know, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, even W. Bush.
And then there's Donald Trump.
I mean, why is it, I mean, just imagine if Barack Obama, you know, had eliminated or not eliminated, but kicked out Fox News out of the press room like Trump did with AP.
Okay, just imagine if Barack Obama was targeting law firms and extorting money from them simply because they, you know, took positions or defended cases that he didn't agree with.
You know, Joe Biden lends money to his brother who pays it back.
And yet the Republican congressional hearings last two years to see if there's any wrong doing on this and call him the Biden crime family.
Why is it that there's, like, two standards for presidents?
You mentioned earlier, Earl, what happens when Trump leaves the office.
I'm hoping there's some type of, you know, the pendulum swings back to some sort of accountability for these presidents.
But I just am floored by the fact there's two different types of standards for all the other presidents and then Donald Trump.
He gets away with everything.
And it's not just the Republicans.
It's just the American public, I think.
the media, whatever, they're just accustomed to Trump being so outrageous.
It's like the norm and that's wrong and that's got to stop.
Hey, Jim, thank you very much, Sandy.
You want to respond to it?
Well, I think what's astounding is that people apparently are willing to concede to Donald Trump, the ability to be an authoritarian and to exercise his will because they think he's such a great deal maker.
When the facts are that his private business ventures have been
ultimate failures, every one of them, and the only deal making he did that seemed to be interesting and dynamic was when he was a TV figure and it was fictitional.
The apprentice
was not
reality, and the apprentice is what in fact built him up to have the reputation of being a great businessman.
The guy who was the showrunner
for the apprentice has since apologized to the American people saying he is so sorry that they selected Donald Trump to be the the head of the apprentice because they built for him a reputation which he did not deserve as a great businessman.
All right.
Up next CJ.
CJ, you're up next.
Well, thanks for taking my call.
I know I won't get long to get one shot.
You know,
You misrepresent so much of what's happening, Sandy.
The tax law, if the Trump tax cuts are not extended, this is from the Congressional Budget Office.
22% the average taxpayer will see a tax hike.
40 million families will have their household's child tax credit cut in half.
91% of all taxpayers will see a guaranteed deduction
flashed in half.
26 million small businesses will be hit with a 43% top rate tax increase.
Most small businesses file as individuals.
Two million family owned farms will see the death tax exemption flashed in half.
I feel like Paul Harvey, because you only tell part of the story.
Well, no, let's just say that if what we wanted to do was preserve all of those things, they could go ahead and preserve all those things, and the cost would be nowhere near $4.5 trillion.
The problem is they want to preserve the tax reduction for the wealthy, and that's where the expenses are experienced with respect to the cost to the federal budget.
The cost of tax revenue lost only comes from people who pay large taxes, okay?
And it is true that the wealthy in America pay more of the percentage of the federal tax than the poor do, but of course you can't get blood from a stone.
So, yeah, you should go back and analyze that data and say, if we continued all those things that are being broadcast as being lost by Tom, Dick and Mary and did not preserve the rest of the tax cut, how much would that cost?
And that would cost a mere
fraction.
You know, great music, Sandy.
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2-Texas at that same number.
Sandy, the music?
The music's about circuses and clowns, and that's apropos to what we're talking about, I guess, today.
It's interesting how much music there is that relates to circuses, and most people find joy in it.
People are frightened of clowns, however, and...
And I'm afraid we have a clown that we are all getting to be very concerned about.
All
right, let's go up next is Mike from Kenosha.
Mike, you're up next.
Morning, guys.
Happy Friday.
Yes, sir.
You know, I have to say this.
I got two points very quickly.
Number one is looking at the budget that the house passed yesterday, the GLP budget that adds $5 trillion.
to our nation's debt.
You remember, and we're talking about theater, when Barack Obama was attempting to get healthcare under the Affordable Care Act, you remember the drama that the Jim Jordans and all these Republicans, they're foaming at the mouth saying, there's no way we're gonna do this, adding more debt to American people, I think that.
The debt was somewhere around $20 trillion, a third less than it is now, roughly.
And there are formerly the mothers, no way, to the point where they put all these poison pills in Obamacare in order to make it budget-neutral.
So here is a perfect example of the Carnival Act, the Circus Act of the GOP that we've all witnessed.
Again, the Tea Party and all these foaming of the mouth and sanely passionate, no more budget, you know, the Rand Paul drawing the line in the sand, all this stuff.
And they passed a bill that added five trillion yesterday.
So to me, and I was thinking all people who are paying attention, this clearly reveals how intellectually dishonest the Tea Party
theater, the GOP campaign has been.
Believe these things, we believe in social security.
Go ahead.
One, one, one other point and Sandy, this is really for your benefit.
If you recall back in the late thirties, we had roughly our economy.
I think the debt was 120% of our economy.
And what did we end up doing?
We fought a war we create the GI Bill and then we created the interstate system But we did that even though we had a hundred and twenty percent of national debt We did that because we understood that you know the progressive type of sales tax and revenue that is shared by most of the world where the elite the
the super wealthy are going to have to pay a little bit more.
That's been the norm.
So again, all is not lost, but we must come to the realization that this whole Republican, for the last two or three generations of Americans, it's all been theater.
It's all been a circus in yesterday's budget that they passed.
The Republicans passed, I think is clear evidence.
Hey, Mike, thank you very much for the call, Sandy.
Well, you know, this whole doge thing has been circus, you know, the claim that we've got billions and billions and billions of dollars of fraud.
We've got people who are 120 years old, many, many of them experiencing and getting Social Security or getting unemployment benefits and.
All of that is designed to be a smokescreen at the time that they're adopting a budget that's going to involve a great deal of larger deficit, because the American people, I think, are trying to be led to believe that there'll be savings, enormous savings that will offset the kind of deficit that they're talking about adopting in the budget through reduced expenditures, which aren't going to materialize.
Yeah, I mean the only thing that I take comfort from is that the gilded age that Donald Trump wants to refer to from 1873 to 1913 was followed by a period of progressive government and and so was the depression, you know, so that
You know the 20s in a period of conservative conservatism was then followed again by progressivism and people believing in government and the things that government ought to be doing and should be doing well and and maybe people are gonna wake up when they when they see what happens in a in the current environment with respect to the need for adequate government,
you know Sandy speaker Johnson and the Republicans in the Congress who passed his budget
Speaker Johnson made a promise to them that the cuts are going to come.
We didn't do it right now, but I guarantee you, we're going to make major cuts down the road.
So people need to be aware, they need to understand that he's traded this off-sending.
Yeah, what they're doing is putting the cart before the horse.
I think that's what that expression was all about.
If they want to have tax reductions, they ought to come forward with the cuts first.
That's the hard part, right?
And let's see whether they actually materialize and what it is they're talking about cutting.
Yes.
That's like giving the dog the treat before the trick, okay?
You know, the dog doesn't do the trick once they've had the tree.
All right.
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We believe in social security.
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All right, Sandy. Great stuff, man. Welcome back to The Erlingham Show. As always, you can join us at 855-752-4842. Text us at that same number, Sandy. Go ahead, man. The music.
Well, it's Tom Waits, and he's doing the call of a sideshow artist calling people in for the fraudulent show, the stuff, promising you the stuff they can't deliver. And I thought that was pretty apropos. Yes, it's great, great music. Let's go to Tom from LA. Tom, you're up. Well, I'm not a, first off, you know what? Actions speak louder than words, and you always show the actions every day.
I hope there's a way that somebody can videotape that wonderful promise. I'm going to do it. We can all see it. We're going to do it. I'm absolutely going to do it and make sure it's available on the civic media link. Thank you for that. Second, I'm going to be talking a little longer today. But if you want, I'm not a genius by any means. But if I want to cut waste out of the government, give people
who make $3 million or less a tax break, and increased taxes back to the Republicans Eisenhower rates, Republican Eisenhower rates on people who made over $3 million or adjusted to today's wealth. It was 90%. Republicans are robbing Peter, cutting the essential programs,
that FDR put into place, like Social Security and Unemployment, to pay Paul, the billionaires, in tax breaks. And it's amazing that it would be Paul, the one that was the tax collector that they'd be giving it to. I am glad that Sandy has finally, and Sandy, this is not a snipe at you, so I don't want you to think that, even though it may sound like it.
Actually, usually, Snipes usually start out with that disclaimer, but go ahead. I know, I know, but I am so happy if Sandy has finally woken up and looked at the things like people like Brendan and Cam and Charles and Eric and PJ and Ann and Susan and Mike and, of course, Jeannie, my favorite. Ollie, Bill and Mark, because we have been saying this for over a year.
I haven't heard from Gary lately, so I'm thinking that his HVAC money or supplies must be going skyrocket and maybe he's starting to see the light. We need to start pushing back when people say that Joe Biden's economy was not good. Donald Trump takes things that are working. He breaks them and then he says that he fixes them.
And then he goes on like the Roy Cohn that he is, or the protégé of Roy Cohn, and says, oh, am I not wonderful? The one air Democrats make is they don't know how to communicate their bragging of what it is that they've done because they actually care about the American people. And I have one last question for you, Sandy. Why is it that the people who benefited
from we the people government paying into the system through paying taxes like Derek Van Odd one and Paul Ryan Etc want to destroy the programs that they actually benefited from as children because they were on snap and Social Security because of Paul's dad dying Why do they want to cut these essential programs?
that Franklin Delano Roosevelt put into place, and the New Deal, when they benefited from it, maybe they just need to pay back everything themselves and let the rest of us continue to run the programs, like you said, Sandy. In the past 50 years, government has not increased in terms of the number of employees. And what their goal is, is to say, we're not gonna cut Social Security, trust us, we're not gonna cut Medicare, trust us.
We're just going to cut the workers that work for those places. So therefore the program go belly up. OK, Tom. That's what they're saying. So when they say that, thank you. We got you, Tom. Thank you very much for the call. Sandy, you want to respond to any of that? Well, I've not been in disagreement with much of that over the over the years. But you know, I keep to try and explain.
why it is that people of wealth are wanting to cut taxes and to cut out programs that are designed to be safety nets for the poor.
is what I've described as the process of the wealthy trying to kill the golden goose that has made them wealthy. They've grown up in a system with a government the size that it is and a government with the programs of the sort that it has and it has afforded them the opportunity to develop great wealth and now when they have this great wealth they somehow have decided that they don't want to share any of it into the federal revenue pot and they've demonized the programs that exist as a rationale
for trying to retain much more wealth than they can ever consume themselves and wealth that when it's left to their children will only spoil them. The world has known for a long time that third generation wealth loses all of it based on their incapacity to be motivated in the manner that they could otherwise be if they weren't born with a huge pile of money sitting beneath them. Jack from Merimet, good morning to you Jack.
Good morning. Yeah, I've got a few things to say about this insanity. But just as one comment about the obscene wealth, I have quite a number of conservative friends as well as a lot of progressive ones. And I always ask my conservative friends when something like this comes up, how much is enough? And the answer
they really never come up with a real answer. They closest to that, like I hear from them is, well, they earned it all. Well, we know they didn't earn it all. I mean, between not paying taxes and accumulating and then turning that over untaxed income to their next generation and continuing that, that's the way this kind of huge wealth
usually is built. But I have a few things to say about the insanity in Washington right now. First, if you wanted to bolster the strength of American enemies like Putin and Xi Jinping and degrade American strength and standing as a democracy in the world, I don't know what more you could do than what they're doing.
Trump's been allowed by Congress and the Supreme Court to become literally a dictator, and I don't expect he'll allow anything like a real election in 2026. There's no way the majority of Americans will vote for anything like a continuation of this chaos. And our financial system continues to be degraded to the point where our currency soon is going to stop being the world benchmark, probably replaced by the one.
Also, the constant pushing of xenophobia is an intentional distraction. It's just designed to continue inciting hate and anger so people either ignore the real issues like the billionaire giveaways and tax welfare plan that's in the new budget and blame other countries for the financial degradation of most Americans. The pain, whether it's financial,
lack of government services, lack of fulfillment of contract, apparently random and in some cases illegal deportation. This is intentional. They're saying, look at the harm we can cause with impunity. And we can do it to anybody. So you better not stop our theft of your government and the trillions that it has, because we'll do it to you. This is authoritarianism 101. You know, Jack,
Thank you very much, Sandy. We've just had just great callers, great insightful thoughts, your thoughts on all of this. Well, absolutely. The last point that was made is absolutely one of the most important points, which is this theater of demonstrating, for instance, how they're taking immigrants away in the dark of night and sending them to El Salvador to a horrible prison. This notion of
Calling law firms forward to destroy their business if they act in the manner of simply dissenting from the views of Donald Trump is all designed to be chilling theater to repress dissension Wherever it might exist and to make everyone afraid I guarantee you that if I still worked in the law firm That my law firm would be calling me up right now and telling me I should not be on the air
talking like this about Donald Trump because it threatens their entire business environment. He has demonstrated his capacity to stamp on and play whack-a-mole with anyone who has the temerity to speak up against him. It's the most contrary, it's the singular most contrary policy to the First Amendment that I have ever seen in action. All right, let's go to Lori. Good morning to you, Lori. You say what?
Yeah, when Sandy made that comment about Trump being a clown and that some people are scared of cons, it just reminded me of Stephen King's it. Maybe we should call him president it. But so CJ, that question that he made or that comment he made about, we have to extend this text break. So from what I understand with Trump's first term,
He made permanent tax breaks for the wealthy, but these ones for us are temporary and rat out this year. So why isn't CJ commenting on that? Why weren't ours permanent? Why was it just for the wealthy? And how can they possibly give the wealthy another $4 trillion tax break when they can't even give us anything? And then the other comment I want to make was, I think it's Charles that calls in.
He is so articulate. He's so confident and very intelligent. He should almost have his own show. Well, uh, Lori, thank you very much. Uh, and I think you're a first time caller, but thank you very much. Uh, Sandy, uh, you know, she's asking the question about why, why does, why do these billionaires need additional tax breaks?
Well, why did he need more money?
Well, it's it's unbelievable to me that that the people who have assembled this kind of wealth Don't feel an obligation to support the government which creates the social and economic Ecosystem in which they make all this money and what they what they're looking at doing is taking away money that they describe as as entitlements which are aimed at people who have who don't have wealth Okay, and so social security is designed for the people who don't have a big cushion when they retire
so that they can actually exist in retirement. Medicare is aimed at people who are older and couldn't possibly afford the insurance price that an elderly person would have to pay to have insurance coverage for medical care. Medicare is aimed at the people who can't afford medical care at all. And so these are entitlements that the wealthy want to extract from the programs because
To the extent that they want to reduce the budget by any substantial amount whatsoever, they have to attack those parts of the budget as well as the Defense Department budget. And they've already, the president has already announced and it tends to increase the expenditures for defense by a number like $165 billion. You know, Sandy, it is not only nauseating, it should be criminal.
because the suffering that is going to take place because of these decisions that they made Sandy, we know that there's going to be massive suffering of the American people, right?
I mean, particularly in a recession, when these safety net issues become much more pertinent to a far greater number of people. And so, you know, are they going to attack the safety net? That's an uncertainty that they're continuing to say they aren't. But it's pretty clear that either they are or they are going to increase the deficit by such an enormous amount that they're going to leave a legacy for our children and grandchildren, which is an exceedingly exceedingly burdensome and
sustainable kind of a problem. So if you had a magic wand or a crystal ball, which one of those two do you think they're going to pursue? On the other side, Sandy. 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2. Very good, especially so Sandy, great.
Great show this morning, 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2. I call Sandy Williams and you.
show Sandy just great music this great great music it's Friday means Friday's my co-host Sandy we're sending the music choice
well that happens to be the theme song from Clowns from Outer Space which apparently is a cult movie it's a cult I never joined but it's an interesting song killer clowns is what that's called and I'm afraid that's what we've got in the White House
all right Brendan you're
up
But you can't get a pair of sneakers for under $100.
It's ridiculous.
But the point I want to make is April 15 is coming, folks.
And this clown up there in DC wants to, the American people need to be shot.
They need to be woken up.
So let them put on martial law.
Let the American people wake up and see on their televisions, reserve troops going against peaceful protesters.
This is how the Vietnam War was ended.
college students stood up and took batons to the skull, and it was all on national television.
So let's stand up.
We gotta stand up if we do not.
This is just gonna get worse.
And to the kind young lady who called earlier asking why CJ said something, because he'll never say anything negative about a guy he's in a bromance with.
You guys have a great
weekend.
Hey Brendan, thank you very much for the call.
Mark from Racine.
Yeah, the term defense spending, that's a euphemism, it's military spending, it's almost really more like offense spending given US history, but I would say at least call it military spending because saying this defense spending makes people, oh, we do want to defend ourselves, and then we're spending at least half of the federal budget is going to the so-called defense.
Military spending is my suggestion.
Anyway,
thank you.
Hey, Mark, you're right about that, man.
Thank you very much for the call.
Nobody's coming after America.
Don, you're up next.
Yeah, great show, guys.
Boy, I'm really learning something here.
Your callers are hitting all the needles right on the heads.
Anyhow, I learned something again today.
That lady said that tax
Trump tax, uh, permanent for them.
For
the
wealth, for the rich.
Yeah.
For the wealthy, but the Trump, Dick and Mary, uh, we're getting ripped off.
I mean, uh, shouldn't we,
uh, get, uh, sure that we know what's good for the goose should be good for the gander.
You know, that, that doesn't sound good to me, but anyhow, that's Mike.
All
right.
Done.
Uh, thank you very much, man.
So, so Sandy, I have to say to you.
We've done a lot of different shows Something you're very electric and special About this morning show.
I mean music was unbelievable and it fit just perfectly but Sandy the content of the conversation of what is really happening and What is transpiring as we speak?
You know, I said before earlier I was
One of my classmates was on Facebook.
I don't do Facebook.
I just tell people I don't, but I got this, this thing that came in and I happened to look and she was on saying how great Donald Trump was.
She'd vote for him again.
And there was thousands and thousands of people who were saying, yeah, he's the greatest thing ever.
And we're going to support him the next time.
And these were people of my generation.
And Sandy, all I could do is, man, what don't they see?
Well, to be honest, you said that in the past, I've always been much more cautious about talking about the economy, the future, being pessimistic.
To me, alarm bills have already rung.
And I wake up in the morning and I'm both angry and frightened by the turn that the country has taken.
And it's not about the policy.
It's not about whether we ought to make government more efficient or that something like a DOGE committee could investigate efficiency and try to improve the efficiency of government.
No, that's not the problem.
The problem is the process.
And the process has obliterated the separation
of powers in our government.
We have now a person in the presidency who is operating in the most authoritarian ways possible, using all of the powers of the presidency and those that don't even exist but are contrary to the Constitution, to point the guns of government at individuals who dissent, at businesses who dissent, to destroy and repress dissension and free speech.
is the most frightening thing I've seen.
And that is the process that the American public needs to stand up and be very frightened about.
We've unleashed a monster.
We've opened the bottle.
The genie has emerged and we've got to get it back into the bottle.
You know, I just want to say thank you, Sandy, as always.
Thank all of you who made this show go.
I'll be able to escape this in Sandy Will as well for a little while as we spend some time with some very special people this afternoon at the 22nd annual Citywide Special Ed Prom.
Thank everybody who made the show go.
Thank you, Cardi.
I'll be back on Monday.
You've been tuned in to The Early News Show.
Have a great weekend.
is what they want.
Viruses and riots.
People dying.
We won't stay home.
Black lives matter.
All lives matter.
What's all this division for?
It's modern.
