Where’s the love? (Hour 2)

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Where’s the love? (Hour 2)

The Earl Ingram Show · Tue Apr 8, 2025

But I guess that's just the way the story goes You always smile, but in your eyes your solo shows Yes, it shows No, I can't forget

my soul when I had you there but then I let you go and now it's only fair

Earl Ingram

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You know, the first hour, uh, you know, I spent talking about the lack of empathy in our nation and, um, not just by Donald Trump and his minions, but even amongst a lot of us who just don't seem, uh, to have any compassion.

or tolerance for the human beings.

That can't be a good thing, man.

And I prefaced it all at the beginning of saying that part of it, I think, can be attributed to the fact that there are less and less people who, you know, in some kind of organized religion.

Say whatever it is you want to say about organized religion, but what organized religion did in many instances was kind of,

made people realize that it's more than them.

You know, they all had their own books, you know, and, you know, be it the Bible, the Torah, the Holy Quran, you know, whatever.

They had their own books and so people were able to follow some direction and guidance.

as far as what humanity was all about and the importance of it and organizing society.

But man, listen, let's people engage in church.

And, you know, and so if it's, you know, and if you're in the wrong place, you certainly can be headed down the wrong path.

But.

We just gotta get beyond this, man.

We gotta figure out a way to get back to a time when people had some compassion and concern for other people.

Let's go to Susan from Kenosha.

Good morning to you, Susan.

You say what?

Good morning.

I've been listening to your shows and I really agree with you.

But the downfall of

what we have was growing even before we even knew it in the 1960s.

White America decided to leave the cities for the suburbs because of civil rights.

And those of us who stayed, who wanted civil rights, who wanted equality were the ones who stood up.

We walked the walk and we talked the talk.

White...

America, who fled into the suburbs, turned to societies like the Federalist Society, which groomed the Supreme Court, many of the Supreme Court candidates of today, who follow Trump.

And this is the problem.

The problem is they never learn to love each other as we did, as we did.

staying in the city, sending our kids to public schools, and teaching our children that everyone is equal in the eyes of God.

And this is the problem, because now we have the white America who thinks that they're elitist, that they are better than us.

But we have to rise up.

We have to come together.

And like they did on the weekend, we protest.

And we continue to protest and we take our country back from these Federalist Society white elitist.

And in my mind, and I'm sorry to say this because I don't like to call names, but to me, they're on the same side as the Nazis.

So from me to you is that we have to rise up.

We have to show them that we are compassionate.

We love our fellow man.

And I don't care who you are, where you are in society, we must unite.

And that's how I

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see it.

Hey, Susan, I mean, come on.

Why is that so difficult?

You know, in the twinkling of an eye, we're gone, right?

Death befalls all of us.

I don't care who you are.

We're gonna, we're born, we're gonna die.

All that stuff in between is foolishness.

You know, if you don't have any feelings or compassion for another human being, you need to look in the mirror.

Man, as I stated before, we used to have that.

But now a lot of that is gone.

Susan, thank you very much for the call.

Tom, you're up next, man.

Yeah, Earl.

I'll tell you what's missing is, what's missing is connection with people.

I get out every morning like I'm right now and I walk 10 miles a day.

But the thing is, I see people on the street.

I say, good morning.

How are you?

You know, just the normal thing that you would think, right?

We have gotten so, and it makes you feel good when you connect with someone.

We have AI now.

We have automated services for everything.

To me, it's the downfall of what's happening in our society.

If you look at a simple thing like the iPhone, they call it the WePhone, they call it the iPhone.

Me, me, me, me, me.

Also, on top of that,

People do not take personal responsibility for anything.

You do not see people putting their carts away at the grocery store.

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No.

You do not see people picking up trash on the street.

I mean, it's like you'll have, and I don't know where these young kids, some of these young kids are learning it from.

From

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home,

man.

two inches away and they're throwing it on the ground like this is me I can do this and it's like you know I don't understand that because all it is is hey two for two points maybe you'll make a shot there in the garbage can you know something along those lines but there is an interconnectedness that makes us human and the more that we get away

from the connecting with other people, the more that we will see these problems.

Good morning, sir.

Just as an example, it's common courtesy.

I don't think it's something, if it was something I was taught, it was something I was taught at a subconscious level with my family, or I just learned it from modeling their behavior.

I don't know if that's what it was, or if it's just who I am.

Because honestly, I can't imagine.

I've always been kind of the boy next door.

I've always been the person that has helped other people.

It's like it's an instinct.

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Hey, hey, Tom.

And, you know, if you remember one other thing, Earl, when Sonia Sotomayor was running to be the Supreme Court Justice, they took the word empathy about Sonia Sotomayor and made that into a vulgar

Well,

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yes

Hey

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John, thank you very much for the comment.

Okay Mark you're up next

I Have a quote by a Dalai Lama Pertaining anyway, it's a really quick one love and compassion our necessities not luxuries without them humanity cannot survive and another remark I'd like to make

with the stories of Jesus feeding the multitudes and healing people, it's like there wasn't compassion in that, or is that him just showing off?

I mean, he doesn't make sense, you know.

Anyway, so yeah, I'm all for empathy, compassion, et cetera.

That's all.

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All right, Mark, thank you very much for the call.

Ann, you're up next.

You say what?

Well, Earl, I'm glad you're talking about empathy.

I'm starting on empathy.

for some

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of your

Republican callers, they were made to believe our economy was so bad that they were willing to hire a man with no character, a felon on top of that.

And, you know, to help with our economy that was seemed to be so bad, but now he's destroying everything that working people in this country have fought for.

If they were feeling angry with Biden, they must be just

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So so and let me let me let me say you know I began a subject because yes Donald Trump certainly plays a major role in this but I've watched just empathy erode you know over decades and we just can't seem to

do the right thing in this society anymore.

To be the Democrat or Republicans, you know, people have lost, you know, the capacity to, to feel another human being, the spirit of another human being, another, you know, and I just don't know where that came from.

And you know, that wasn't the way it was 40 years ago, 50 years ago.

Um, but it, but it is

now.

I will never stop being empathetic and

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I know I know you as an individual, but I'm talking about our society as a whole

Well, I think more adults need to be showing this behavior to our younger people

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Yes,

because where it starts and people calling in being mad at Democrats or Biden Biden Biden It's like come on guys.

This isn't about that anymore.

This is about being

Normal human beings that care about one another, neighbors, let's care about our neighbors.

I was at the Eau Claire protest and I'll tell you they said one great thing.

I had my young son with me and they said meet three people that you've never met before.

Get their phone numbers, have coffee with them.

This is a way for our young people to get out there and meet like-minded people.

So they have more than just their iPhones or the social media.

We need to get our young people out so they feel welcome in

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the world.

Hey Ann, thank you very much for the call.

I wish I had more time.

Guys hang on, we'll continue the

conversation.

Just...

I can see clearly now the rain is gone.

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You know, I don't think that the way I live my life makes me better than anybody, okay?

I don't ever think that I'm better than anybody.

Never have, never will.

I go to my grave in that manner.

But Friday, I will be volunteering in year number 15 for the special ed prom that I've been a part of now for the past 15 years.

Raising funds to make sure that over 150 special needs people enjoy just a wonderful, wonderful opportunity.

A lot of times, special needs people feel less than in our society.

Well, at our special needs prom, they don't feel any of those things.

They feel normal because what we'll be doing is making sure they feel normal.

We'll give them their opportunity that people don't look at them with a John this high.

They can be who they are.

Inside of the cruel society that they live in, people are so callous they walk right past them.

As if they don't exist, that's the kind of society I'm talking about.

And so we gotta change that.

I happen to live my life in that manner.

I don't ever.

Think about or think that I'm better than anyone.

Okay, who they are cuz I'm not Cuz we're all a part of humanity we can't some people can't get there But man, that's what what's that the root of all this it's gonna Mike from Kenosha.

Good morning to you Mike.

You say what man

Boy from your lips to everyone's ears way to go.

I couldn't agree more with your last commentary, you know

The power of giving, that's what you've learned in your wise 70 years, Earl, is the power of giving is much, much stronger, much more gratifying than receiving anything.

We feel so much better.

We feel connected.

We have that extra little bounce in our step.

And quite frankly, I think that's what separates us in this, I don't know, broken two-party system.

you know, a lot of us understand empathy, understand that, you know, people power is all about empathy.

But the other side of who's in power now, they're using the people to be exploited.

There's no value.

It's whatever they can take from other people.

Look at the position that the right wingers in their

Look at the position that they've put our young people in today.

They're fearful.

They're uncertain about the futures.

You know, they're going through all these gun drills and they've been doing this throughout their whole lives.

Their student debt is beyond even their ability to comprehend what they just did to themselves.

And so again,

What we see is we see a group of people that are all about exploiting, all about taking as much as they can, including money from people that don't have them.

They'll do whatever it takes.

They'll take food out of children's mouths in order for the rich to get a better

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text.

Mike, that's just what they're doing right now.

Exactly.

We can talk about the nonstop wars, again, the silliness, the absurdness, because the point is this simple.

The economy was rocking.

The problem is the sizes of the pie need adjusting.

The rich are not paying their fair share, and that's where all these problems lie.

But they're using all of this divide and conquer, this information, this information.

from all these right wing networks that are cohesive.

They're in tune with each other in order to take as much as they can and then still want more.

No, no, empathy is what it's all about.

That's what this nation was founded on.

We care about each other.

We look over each other's shoulder as neighbors, as in the community, but that's the last thing.

that these conservatives want.

They want us divided so they can conquer us for sure.

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You know, Mike, you've been around a while.

And to say that we're going to cut the food for many human beings across the globe.

When our nation can afford it, Mike.

You

and I don't

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even, you and I don't even feel that, right?

And most of the Americans don't feel the pennies that may come from us, that feed the rest of those people around the world, man.

Feed, continue to feed them.

That's

how I feel about it.

Why would anybody think for a moment that a child has any chance of learning anything if they're going to school hungry?

Just think about that.

I know.

Same.

So, you know, for the $5 a day that would cost to feed children, look at the return on investment would be in the long term.

It would be, I mean, massive win for the public.

And quite frankly, it would be a little bit of an indicator for those that do need assistance, like food assistance.

that you know what there's hope it doesn't have to be despair and doesn't have to be uh feeling like you're being punished hey mike

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thank you very much for the call eight five five seven five two forty eight forty two we'll continue the conversation

I've sung a lot of songs I've made some bad rhymes I've

acted up my life and

stayed just 10,000 people watching

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You know, I've been talking about the lack of empathy amongst people.

And it's just getting worse, it's getting progressively worse.

And I know it's not something that people wanna have a discussion about.

And I don't know why, right?

And I'm saying probably at the root of a lot of it is the fact that people are not connected with any religious entity as much as we used to be.

And so people can only see through their own.

Lens and so they can't fathom somebody else's lens and something could be different Then there's yeah, I'm successful Why can't everybody else be you know me I me me I I?

Topped off by a man who we have the most powerful man in the world who's taking that even

leaps and bounds further than anybody else before him.

And so, you know, where do we get off?

When does sanity come back into play?

And when do we start seeing our fellow man as, you know, equal?

Because guess what?

We are.

We are all equal.

I don't care what you think.

Okay, how much money you have, you're gonna die.

Just like the man with no money, you're gonna die.

You are, we all are.

That's what renders us equal.

And it always has and always will.

And today is no different.

Let's go to Cindy from Appleton.

Good morning to Cindy.

You say what?

Well, you want to talk about lack of empathy.

I just called Tony Weed's office because I'm very concerned about our social security check stopping after this month because he's cutting everything.

I'm concerned about this.

I'm asking her if I can get the letter stating that this is going to continue, that our social security will continue into perpetuity like it's supposed to.

She started laughing at me and told me to have a nice day.

and basically hung up the phone.

I mean, I'm a constituent concerned about my freaking livelihood.

And she laughs at me like I'm some crazy woman and hangs up the phone.

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Well, this is

our legislator.

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Well, you know, Cindy, that's why those people should all pay a price for disavowing what those who voted for them.

You know

and

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I know but this you know, but but you know, there's some people who did they weren't just your question was not predicated on Just the response from a Democrat, right?

It's everybody on social security including Republicans Right, I think that's the insanity in this whole this whole thought process.

Well, you as a Democrat calling asking no

Last time I checked Republicans on Social Security as well, Cindy.

So she doesn't have enough sense to understand that.

Thank you very much for the call.

Let's go to Brian.

Brian, good morning to you.

You say what?

Yeah, uh, working healthcare for a good chunk of my life.

And, uh, when I was working at one of the companies I was with, uh, I was doing some online training videos, you know, when you start working for a corporation, that's usually how that goes.

And one of the training videos was on empathy.

And I literally busted out laughing during the training video in the back office.

And little did I know that the district manager was standing right there.

And he said, if there's something funny with your video, and I said, yeah, you guys are seeing her trying to teach empathy to healthcare workers.

I said, either you care about it or you don't.

You can't teach someone empathy.

You know, I didn't go into healthcare.

to make a good amount of money.

You know, I wanted to health care because I care about people who want to make a difference in their lives.

You know, and he had nothing to say to that.

You know,

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Brian, that's the thing, either you care or you don't.

Brian, you said people can't be taught empathy.

And you and you know, and I never thought about it until you said it.

But I think they can be taught empathy.

It has to happen before their adults.

It has to happen in stages from birth.

That's the way it used to be done, right?

But if somebody's becoming an adult and they lack empathy, you are correct.

It's almost impossible to teach it.

It has to be done in the early stages of life.

Hey, Brian, thank you very much for that.

I really appreciate it.

Laurie, you're up next.

You say

what?

say that I am agnostic at best because of the way I see people who believe in the Bible treat others.

And especially, I noticed this before this last election.

I'm like, we're the ones who are teaching them what the Bible is about, but they call us godless.

Now, I know somebody who I just talked to her for the first time since the election.

And she talked about how happy she was that these people were being shipped down back to South America.

And I thought, and how does that affect your life?

How why does that make you happy when you lose your Social Security check?

Your husband loses his veterans benefits.

Are you going to go back and just be happy because all these people are being made miserable?

So, you know, the women who and girls who want abortions or the the gay trans that those people date.

care more about that than they and you know the lbgtq people i think they're like 14 percent of the population but these people don't care about what the corporations are doing to all of us the poisoning and you know just the corruption and everything that affects everybody but they care more about these minorities that aren't hurting anybody and i mean she was

she was going on about oh well abortion's bad but we shouldn't have welfare so okay these women are going to have these kids but you don't want to feed them you don't want to help them um these it's bad to get to have all these these foreigners in the country that's horrible well if you're going to be pro if you're going to say your pro life you have to remember that they're alive too and she said but

Well, if I was down there, I'd probably do the same thing too, because I'd want a better life.

So where does that say in the Bible, you know, the whole hate your neighbor and, you know, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

So there must be a lot of self-loathing people.

Well, you know,

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you know, you know, Lori, you said a lot and I can't disagree with anything you said because, again,

You know, when people are so judgmental, right?

You have no right to judge anybody.

We have no right individually to judge anybody.

But we feel so emboldened because we've forgotten the fact that we are sinners, just like the rest of other human beings, we are no better.

than other human beings.

We are not, we've never been, but we walk around as Americans with our heads held high in the sky.

And, you know, we are better.

You're not better.

Thank you very much for the call.

Hey, Gene, what's going on, man?

How you doing, brother?

I'm doing well for a guy my age.

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It's good to hear from you, my friend.

Yeah, you know, it's like I say when I'm even not here listening to your show on I could get I am something radio and But the thing of it is is I just told a guy yesterday and he's a Caucasian and that I said, you know, I didn't have a choice of When I was gonna be born I don't really have a choice is when I'm gonna die and I certainly did have a choice

of the color of skin that I came here in.

So the thing of it is when a person hates another person simply because of the color of their skin, that's a disease.

That's an illness.

And if they want to bring their Bible in, I asked the pastor one time.

I said, the Bible said, love that neighbor as thyself.

And I said, they flip-sided that if you hate yourself, will you hate your neighbor?

These people that hate, they really hate themselves because you can't give me something, Earl, that you don't have.

And if you don't have love in your heart, you can't give me love.

If you have hate in your heart, you're going to give me hate.

So the thing of it is, is like you say, in the end, we are all equal.

We all were born.

We all going to try to live here and we all going to die.

So we need to recognize that and try to figure out a way to get along and make life better for all of us.

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You know, Gene, you know, Gene, go ahead, finish your

point.

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Finish your point,

Gene.

The richest man in the world.

What is he going to do with all that money?

He's not hipping the poor.

He's not sheltering any homeless and he's not feeding any hungry.

So when he dies.

That money is going to be left back here there isn't even if they put it in the casket with him It's not going to do him any good.

So I'm saying nobody or why do people want to hoard?

It should be a law against somebody owning more than $1 billion in this country because what do you need it for?

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Hey, well you this guy has 280 billion Okay, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, and he trying he

trying to get his hands on more Well, you know

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Jean

but the good

But the good thing about what's going on in this country now, it's going to hurt the people that voted for him, just as well as the people that didn't vote for him.

This man does not care about, he does not care about these people.

He only care about his little own rubby hand, and he's going to try to get as much as he can get his hands on.

I'm

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going to give you a buzz after the show.

Always good talking to you.

Really appreciate it.

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and I'm singing this song.

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Back my bags last night, we flight Zero hour, 9am And I'm gonna be high As a kite by then

I miss the earth

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You know music is a mirror to the soul You know, I just love hearing You know the sounds and all the different music and I hopefully you enjoy it as well Let's go to Eric from Toast.

Good morning to you Eric.

You say what?

Morning Earl.

Yeah, empathy is quite a topic

That's a big topic.

First, I'd like to say, though, if I could, kind of a PSA, is I'd like to urge your callers, your listeners, to call the US House.

The switchboard number, if it's OK, is 202-224-3121.

Mike Johnson, the speaker, announced that they're planning on voting tomorrow on the cuts to Medicaid and SNAP to give billionaires their $4 billion in tax cuts.

So if your listeners don't want

their representatives to take part in these devastating cuts to Medicaid and SNAP to create massive suffering across the country, including people in your own family.

Let's not be confused.

Please call your representative now at 202-224-3121.

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Wednesday,

so far the speaker has, you know, it may get delayed because of a response, negative response, but as of now, it's been reported that they plan on voting on Wednesday.

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And thanks for that.

So tomorrow, critically important information.

Go ahead, Eric.

Critically important.

If I could say about empathy.

Yeah, I can still remember the glee I heard in at least one of your MAGA callers' voices when you had asked them what they felt about some of the things our current president has been doing that has been directly hurting people and experts have said will literally kill countless human beings worldwide, exhibiting that lack of empathy to even be excited about some of these things.

I could see where, well, that's what happens in this, that and the other, trying to explain it away and explain away your vote, but to actually express

excitement and glee over it was kind of thickening, and that's why I can remember it.

But I don't think we should also overlook the impact capitalism has on our ability to extend empathy.

But I also believe that, at least from people that look like me, live like me, a lifetime of racist, xenophobic, nationalistic conditioning that landed here along with that first boatload of enslaved Africans has created conditioning for us to look the other way, that cognitive dissonance.

And you can hear it in people's reactions to events when they don't believe it will impact them, their family, or their community directly.

It's like, yeah, well, that's just the way it goes.

I think it's also important to remember, like you said earlier, and I think when your callers brought up, that empathy, much like hate, it's not innate.

It's taught, it's learned, and it must be constantly reinforced.

Tom from LA also made a great point, and that connectivity is a big part of it.

And this is why I've realized that government forces oftentimes are creating enforcing laws that literally keep us segregated for that reason, because solidarity through empathy is powerful.

They don't understand it.

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So

all they know to do is just to deemphasize and destroy it.

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Hey, Eric, thank you for that.

And give us the number again.

That's your call.

Oh, yes, please.

Thank you.

Yeah.

It's to call your House representative and demand they stop the Medicaid and snap cuts.

The phone number is two zero two.

224-3121 and the Swiss board will direct your call from there.

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Thank you very much.

Amen.

Thank you very much for that important information.

Al, you got it.

You're up next.

Good morning.

Earl Ingram

Good morning.

I think I've been listening to most of what you've been talking about.

You said to me the other day that you were at Lackland Air Force Base.

When you went through that basic training, one of the primary thing they taught us, it was about identifying your enemy and destroying them.

And you make the other's enemies to the point where they're not human, they're basically objects, and your job was to destroy.

That's what you were trained to do.

And in this country, we have been identified as the enemy.

But just like I said the other day, part of my family is American India.

We were here before they got here.

They made laws against us.

And basically they have implemented those laws, but

All of this garbage that they teach is not taught in the schools or in the streets.

It's taught in their homes.

They come out of their homes with this identification of us as enemies, and they try to do everything they can to destroy us.

So the word empathy is a taught situation, but.

The thing that they taught us military people to do was to identify the enemy and destroy them.

That's the basic premise of white society.

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Hey Al, what I will say is that what they misunderstand, those who think that way, the people who will be suffering the most.

aren't the people of color because we only make up 12% of the population with this mentality.

No, that's the black population.

That's not true.

There are more of us than that.

Well, 12

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to 14%.

Oh, you're talking about all people of color.

Right.

Right.

All people of color is almost 50%

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of

the country.

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Well, yeah, the majority.

We're not the majority yet.

But okay, but I wish I had more time and thank you very much for the call.

Thank you everybody who you know I Just feel like we need to have some real candid conversations We can talk about a lot of different things but candid conversations and what it's about Thank you everybody who made the show go up next Jane met Ned Greg black.

Thank you, Cardi I'll be back on tomorrow.

See you later