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You know, Sandy, here's another one.
Trump administration moves to end union rights for federal workers, for many federal workers.
He's going to take away, how can he take away
bargain rights for these workers.
Oh, we will.
Here's the deal.
I mean, Donald Trump is doing things with executive orders that no one expects the Supreme Court to honor.
For instance, this voting, his executive order on installing the voting requirements that the Republicans in Congress
tried to pass and failed to pass.
And now he's doing it by executive order.
And the tool he's using is he's saying, look, states, if you don't follow this executive order, you'll lose federal funding.
Well, this does it once again, the president using.
all the powers of the US government against any object that doesn't cooperate with his executive orders, which amounts to creating a gun to your head.
So look, you're going to volunteer to do this.
We're not going to require that you do this.
But if you don't do it, we're going to take away your lifeblood.
And so the Supreme Court is the entity that needs to stand up to this and say, you can't do this.
You can't do it this way.
If you want to implement voting regulations, do it through Congress like the Constitution contemplates.
But the problem here is that.
He is daring the Supreme Court to get in his way, and he's doing everything he can to create an environment in which he would chill courts from getting in his way, threatening impeachment.
He's got Mike Johnson carrying water for him in that regard.
Do you have confidence that the Supreme Court will do the right thing?
I don't have confidence in all of the ma...
I think some of them are ideologs who are ideologically tied to something that is outcome based, not process based.
But my hope is that John Roberts and maybe Amy Conan Bryant, maybe some of these people actually have a pure intellectual view of what the Constitution is and not an ideologically bent one that is bent in the direction of autocracy designed to implement policies rather than process.
The Supreme Court is supposed to be all about process.
So Sandy, let's say a worst case scenario.
It doesn't.
They don't do the right thing.
Where do we go then?
Sandy, that we're at that point, right?
I mean, that it's possible that what you just said.
I do believe it's possible.
I hope and pray that the Supreme Court will look at process.
and be neutral about policy with respect to political governmental policies.
And I'm not sure they can be.
I'm not sure they will be.
But we're at a very vital turning point because process should matter because someone with a completely different ideological bent could grab ahold of all these same tools and try to implement them in the same way.
So
happiness.
There's some person who texts I have zero confidence in the Supreme Court.
I hope that President Biden would have changed the Supreme Court and added members and terms, but he didn't.
You know, the problem with that sand is even if he had done it, Donald Trump coming in could have added even more and kept the imbalance in place.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, packing the court.
works until you've got 462 people on the Supreme Court.
So it's not a policy that is going to save the Constitution or save the country necessarily.
But I do think that the people of this country are ultimately going to be the ones who are going to have to resist, stand up, and see clearly what's happening.
And once again, I want to make sure that people should understand that
Policy is one thing.
Process is another.
And if they embrace this process, they should understand the dangers associated with the process when they get turned on them.
Everyone should look at what's going on and say, what happened if that happens?
What would that be like if it happened to me?
All right, let's go to Mary from Tulsa.
Good morning to you, Mary.
You say what?
And thanks for this opportunity.
As a protection of my mental health and all of this madness, I focus my daily attention on the pro-democracy.
forces that are out there.
Civic media, of course, being one of them.
The contrarian is focusing the light on our April 1 election, and it's going to be present here.
And yesterday, I listened to a one-hour Zoom by public citizen that is addressing the administration with its lawsuits, Robert Weisman and Lisa Gilbert, I'm assuming, their co-presidents, I'm assuming, their attorneys.
And so they're focusing their...
their litigation on three areas.
One being shutting the administration, shutting down of agencies.
Number two is the administration's obtaining our data.
The third is stifling speech.
Now, Robert Weisman made a chilling comment, and he said that regarding Elon Musk, he said he's on a mission of destruction beyond any financial benefit to himself.
That was pretty chilling to hear.
And so lastly, they're very strongly encouraging us to get on this April 5th nationally being organized.
It's called mobilize.us forward slash hands off.
You know, it's being organized throughout the nation.
It's going to be present here in our area.
And I would encourage everybody to, you know, really
You know register for taking part of that.
It's Let's see.
It's again.
It's mobilized dot us forward slash hands off and Public citizens site is citizen org Hey, Mary.
I'm gonna stop here, please.
Thank you.
Hey,
Mary.
Thank you very much for that information.
You know Sandy It is look the Department of Education, right
It's just one thing they they it's a blitzer creek Everything sandy they're not leaving one stone unturned in what they're doing
No, I mean like I said every chapter of project 2025 is in is in place and is in in operation and is occurring and You know these are
This is an organized assault.
This is not disorganization.
This is not Donald Trump arm waving like the first administration.
And these are people who are using Donald Trump and his lust for power for their own purposes, to change things in the direction that they ideologically find important to them.
And the end result of this is...
kind of horrifying.
Like I said, it's not from a policy standpoint.
Whether we have a Department of Education or not is something that Congress is free to choose, and if they decide we shouldn't have it, then I guess we won't have one.
But what we can't have is a process in which we have an authoritarian who makes decisions and implements them using all the tools of government for his personal assault on whoever it is that gets in his way.
I mean, that game of whack-a-mole is
almost indefensible, and we're finding that out, that people cower in the face of all the tools of government.
What I hope is that the shift can be away from all of this stuff.
I think that this needs to be handled by lawyers and it needs to be stopped in courts.
But what we need to have is a party that starts talking to us about having policies in place that actually help us.
to work on our healthcare system so that the healthcare system isn't the social problem that it represents for so many people, to have child daycare that actually supports our workers in getting into the workplace.
You know, these are policies and things that we need to be talking about.
We've had three months of total deflection, not one syllable spoken about the policies that are really important to the citizens of this
country.
You know, Sandy, health care is only going to be worse when they basically got meditated.
You know, they're not making it
Go ahead.
Medicaid is a social problem in that we don't have health care for all so that if you're poor enough to qualify for Medicaid, when you become not poor enough to qualify for Medicaid but are still in the lower half of the income group in this country, you find yourself in a position where you can't afford the health insurance bill that's being presented to you and you were kind of better off when you were on Medicaid.
That's not
a problem of the citizens who are relying on it, that's a problem that's created by the system we've put in place.
And that's the system that we need to have talked about by our politicians and improved because it's causing people not to get married so they can continue to qualify for Medicaid.
It's causing them to realize that they're worse off if they get a modest paying job rather than the low income that they're currently suffering.
I mean, these are things
that people need to address, but it's not going to be solved by taking Medicare away.
Well, you know, Sandy, you know, I'm, you know, my wife and I have been dealing with a special mentally challenged young man.
Man, they're looking at taking away resources for people with mental health issues, Sandy.
I mean, when does this stop?
When do people finally get the courage to say, hey, leave people who can't fend for themselves, please leave them the hell alone?
When does somebody stand up on Mount Everest and shout that down to the American people and say the only way this stops is you have to stop it?
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Sandy, let me read this paragraph quickly and then we'll go back to the phone lines.
So Britt Bear was interviewing Elon Musk.
Whoa.
Is that an oxymoron?
Can you actually interview Elon Musk, Sandy?
Yeah, I don't know.
He's a strange dude.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, so what's something that Brit Bear, what's something that people know about, don't know about, uh, president, uh, Donald Trump.
And, and this is what Elon Musk had to say.
I think the president's a good man must say it.
I think he is an honest man and I have yet to see him do anything mean or anything that's wrong that I would say is morally wrong, not even once.
Do you think Elon Musk knows the definition of morality, Sandy?
it
Let's go to Brenda.
Good morning to you, Brendan.
You say what?
Yeah, I wanted just to kind of echo what Sandy was just saying about them playing the same playbook.
This whole thing with Musk back in Germany just keeps getting buried and buried, but headlines like Elon Musk endorses German far-right AFD in surprise.
Elon Musk calls for Germany to move beyond Nazi guilt, okay?
Just like Trump trying to split black and white people.
When we get together and we protest, we need to stand elbow to elbow.
Okay.
Our Latino brothers and sisters and those who feel in danger at these things, stay home.
We'll take care of it.
We'll carry the water for you.
And I pray, I pray every night, and I'm not a real religious guy, that the people of Wisconsin will stand up and show you on musk.
It doesn't matter how much money he has, they're going to pick the right person for the right decision.
Have a good
weekend.
I think that's very well said, Brendan, but you know, I'm fearful as well.
Let's go to Bill from O'Connor Wall.
Good morning to you, Bill.
You say what?
You are a comment that I'd here to like to hear your feed on with the upcoming election with the Supreme Court.
And town halls being, you don't want to be a Republican to have a town hall now, it doesn't go good.
I don't know if Brad Shimo is going to win or lose.
But if he does lose, if Wisconsin has sent a clear message, Trump stayed out of our state.
And it will send a message throughout the country that thank God,
The judicial system is the only thing protecting us from this 36 count convicted fellow.
What do you think?
So,
Bill, let me let me ask you before you go.
If if I don't know how confident you can be in that, if, you know, you look at the map of the election of Donald Trump and in so much of it was read, I don't know if enough has happened yet for those people who and I don't know why what is going to take.
for those people to realize we're going down the wrong road, man.
Sandy.
People thought he was joking about Greenland.
People thought he was joking about there never being another election after 2024.
But, you know, I don't think he was joking about the first two.
And I'm afraid that he wasn't joking about the last one either in his own mind, at least.
You know, you know, Sandy.
And before we go back to the phone lines, your thoughts on this election, the Supreme Court, over a hundred million dollars, let's say, let's say the Democrats lose.
Let's say Brad Schimel wins.
They spent a hundred million dollars, Sandy, to try to win
one
Supreme Court seat.
I mean, I mean,
not just a
total.
But
say
I think the Democrats spent as much as the Republicans, but what's awful about it is that that's the amount of money that apparently needs to be spent to elect a Supreme Court justice, which these campaigns
30 years ago, probably used to cost $300,000.
I mean, people were spending money out of their own pockets and spending enough to get elected to the Supreme Court.
And so this is just an outlandish frightening thing because it's a demonstration that it isn't just money in politics.
It's very, very big money in politics.
Elon Musk has given $19 million personally.
to the Wisconsin political operation to back the Brad Schimmel.
You know, let's say the worst-case scenario, and Susan Crawford loses.
I think you kind of break the spirit even more of people who vote, Sandy.
Especially after those who voted against Donald Trump, and now...
It will be almost more than people can bear.
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Sandy, where's Sandy the music?
Sweet Caroline is still a great drinking music, huh?
guess it
No.
Let me let me.
Brendan said this and then we'll go through the phone lines.
We must not forget this isn't a battle between left and right.
This is a class war.
Sandy, I think he's absolutely right.
It's a class war.
You
Well, I know I think it is.
I just think that class war tends to repel some people.
It might keep people from joining in the process, because it sounds like something you'd read in a manifesto.
But I do believe that what we've got going here is the wealthy in control.
We have an oligarchical kind of system that seems to be developing with very, very power.
powerful people, powerful wealth.
And powerful wealth apparently can buy you the, I just read, just in the wire, the guy who was convicted and by a federal jury and sentenced to four years for fraud, the founder of this Nikolai truck company, just got a pardon from Trump.
His lawyer was Pam Bondi's brother.
And this guy happened to give $1.7 million to the Trump campaign last fall.
And so now he gets a pardon from a, and Trump tells him that he was the victim of a
legal witch hunt much the
you know, Brendan and what he said, you know, man, it certainly for all the world, and me looks like, you know, the average American who struggles, doesn't have a snowball's chance to inhale with the people who are where they are now, you know, making it through the next two years, let alone any longer
Yeah, well, there's no discussion like I said there's been zero time spent by the administration talking about a single problem that is the problem of middle-class and America because middle-class America needs to have its problems addressed and Reducing their taxes by a pittance is not going to address any of their problems
Tom from LA Europe Tom
Earl Wisconsin has an opportunity
to stop Elon Musk and Donald Trump, and all of this, and I'm saying the word BS on purpose, on Tuesday, get everyone out to vote.
Vote for Crawford.
Don't vote for any more BS.
Brad Schimel's telling you who he is by his initials.
Those is Brian Stiles.
But I would honestly say, you guys have the opportunity
It kind of started in Wisconsin with Walker.
And it kind of started in Wisconsin with the Koch brothers and money in politics.
Now Wisconsin has an opportunity to put down the hatch and actually start putting some sanity back to us.
So please vote no on the amendment.
Vote for Crawford.
And please, please, please vote for Jill Underly.
Or you know what, we're not going to notice what this country looks like.
Wisconsin is the start of it.
That's why I listen every day to Wisconsin.
All right,
Tom, thank you very much for the call.
Let's go to Ollie.
Good morning to you, Ollie.
You say what?
I have two, several points to make.
One is I understand that politics being politics and rules being rules, every radio station has to play
politicians, campaign commercials ads.
But I just heard on your radio station that Trump has endorsed BS.
And if we want to keep America great for Trump,
we should all people in Wisconsin should disregard Susan Crawford's left-wing politics and vote for BS.
And because I cannot be out protesting due to health issues, I want to
protest on phone.
I want everybody who heard that commercial to get up and protest as loudly as they can over the phone, over radio stations, and say that this is just not true.
We heard in BS's own words that he is here to do President Trump's agenda.
And we can all see what's going on in this country and what Trump and Elon Musk are doing to this country.
And it is not an agenda that is for Wisconsin or Wisconsinites or even the United States of America.
It's an agenda for Trump, Musk and his billionaire crony.
Let me let me ask you, Ali, you and I hope you don't.
Take this in the wrong vein.
You sound like a seasoned person who's been around a few times and and you've seen, you know, different presidents in different regimes and is there anything that even comes close to what you are seeing now?
Yes, there is something that comes close.
My dad was in the service for
22 and a half years and we lived quite a long time in Germany and we saw and we lived near bomb holes and we saw what Hitler did to Germany and we learned at school.
what exactly happened during the war and how Hitler took over and this is exactly the way it went and Trump is taking over just like Hitler did and if people do not stand up to him now he will just roll over the whole of the United States and Whatever it takes whatever way you can do it
you need to stand up to him.
And I feel that when he chooses to advertise on a radio show that knowingly tries to put out the truth, and he chooses to advertise on that radio show and put out a lie, everybody needs to stand up and speak out when they hear those commercials.
And
this is my way of doing that.
My way of
protesting.
And they all
go ahead.
Go ahead.
I also want to give hope to the people of Wisconsin because Pennsylvania had two special elections in their state
recently.
Yes, recently.
One of them was the state Senate and District 36.
And it was a definite red state, red area, and the Democrats won two seats in Pennsylvania.
And we can do that too by simply standing strong, standing firm and standing up for Susan Crawford and Jill Underling.
Hey, Ollie, thank you very much for those, you know.
emotional words, Sandy, you know, here's a woman who lived elsewhere and saw some things that most Americans have not seen, right?
Those of us who've been born here, and she's alarmed.
I think people in this country need to realize that the process is so important and that the courts are the ultimate bastion of the protection of process.
And the fact that from an ideological standpoint, people have found a way to raise $100 million to contest a Supreme Court seat in the state of Wisconsin.
demonstrates how important the likes of Donald Trump and Elon Musk, the importance they place on controlling the courts so that they can carry out their agenda.
Because ultimately it's the courts who will put a reign on executive power.
So Sandy, a hundred million dollars in the state of Wisconsin, they're going to be Supreme Court races all over the nation.
You just stated how critically important those seats are.
And so maybe most of us don't see it from that national.
You kind of wonder, hey, this is Wisconsin, one Supreme Court seat.
You know, one by one, is that how they have to capture it?
Well, you know, if you're interested in gerrymandering congressional seats so that you can control Congress,
And if that gerrymander requires a Supreme Court to give its imprimatur to it, then you want to control the Supreme Court.
And of course, they found out when they lost control of the Supreme Court, they lost control of the
district in the
And they're back now to try and make sure that those.
happen again and that they can reverse it.
So that's how important it is for these people to accomplish their agenda.
And what's interesting to me is this talk about culture canceling when we have an agenda from the right which involves actually canceling people and businesses who have the temerity to disagree, you know, just to disagree.
Yeah, you know, it's Andy, it is, as I said before,
It's it's it's frightening Because they've gotten this far in such a short period of time Hey, it's only been a couple months But but maybe if you look at it if we look at it from that perspective Sandy Then we don't see it from the perspective that you've been talking about for a long time And that's the plan that they had in place before Trump got there So is it this is not just something that sprang up in two months
happening.
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Let's go to Tom from West Dallas.
Good morning to you, Tom.
You say what?
Good morning, gentlemen.
Two things.
One, apparently Musk is coming to Wisconsin very soon.
He's going to hand out a million dollars to people who signed that petition for him.
So wouldn't it be beautiful if we should get a good opposition group there to protest that?
Even though I looked it up online, I cannot see, find out where it is yet.
The other thing is talking about Trump.
been Greenland and all that.
What is the real end game?
I mean, he talks about how Russia is, you know, we got to defeat Russia.
We got to protect ourselves from them.
We got to protect ourselves from China.
Get these buddies with all of them.
So what is the real end game here?
Tom, thank you, Sandy.
You want to try to touch that?
Yeah, I think the endgame is what they call this hegemonic view of the world, which means sort of an empire view of the world.
I think Donald Trump thinks the western hemisphere, the northern part of the western hemisphere,
least is his.
He believes that I think that the old Soviet empire is Russia's and that China has its hegemonic sphere as well and that these guys who control countries, these strong armed guys can sit down at a table and divide up the world and have what they will
called world peace, which means really peace at the expense of all the small countries that are dwarfed in size and scale and in power by these large empires.
It's a return to what used to exist in the 19th
century.
But Sandy, he's not equal to those other guys.
He only gets four years.
They can be
All right, let's go to Tom from Richland Center.
Good morning to you, Tom.
You say what?
Good morning, everybody.
I just want to mention a little reality check.
In 2009, we had the assembly, the Democrats at the assembly, the Senate and the governor did not pass Iowa style redistricting law on purpose because they thought they were going to get to gerrymander in their favor.
And that's exactly what happened.
And I was on the inside enough to know that's true.
And as a matter of fact, Schultz was our senator out here.
There's a whole lot about him that I disliked.
But he actually went into the governor at the time and said, why don't we set up this thing to make it fair?
Because I know this stuff's coming online.
So all I'm saying is our good old Democrats, we've got to vote for them and work for them.
And then they've got to make them do the right things.
Because a lot of times, they have their own interests, like collecting the same money that the Republicans are.
power of the people, you know, we can't, can't subjugate our will to even the Democrats.
We gotta do it
ourselves.
Hey, Tom, thank you very much for the call.
Sandy, you want
respond to that?
Well, I think he's right.
I think the people are frustrated because neither party has delivered for them.
Parties have delivered for their own interests or for the interests of K Street or lobbyists or whatever.
And so, you know, that's, that's the actual problem that.
Donald Trump is now exploiting with bringing a new form of government promising to do a great deal.
Of course, that new form of government is a is a authoritarian government.
You know, Sandy, many years back in your early in your in my connection on these on the airways, you kept talking about Democrats.
and Republicans and that you thought it was time that the two-party system be changed.
You remember those conversations you used to have?
What are your thoughts now?
I still think that.
I think that one way to make parties more responsive is to make them more particular in the interest they represent.
So they are responsive to the particular interest.
And yes, that means we end up with coalition governments.
But what we have now is a strange form of coalition that needs to be formed to try to elect one of two candidates.
And the coalitions are basically created by the media.
and through processes that I think rob the American people of direct input.
So I thought at the time that you were saying that there was, you know, pie in the sky thinking.
But to be quite frank with you, watching what's taking place now with one man being able to take over the government, maybe it is not pie in the sky thinking anymore.
Yeah, because you know, he's got he's got a party that his you know when you have two parties all you have to do is take over one of those parties and potentially take over the country in the process That's what he's done.
He's taken over the Republican Party.
He's made it his party It's not a party that represents the interests of anyone but Donald Trump He's got them cowering and so now he's taken over the country with that party and now we're facing the consequences all
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