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Good morning to you, Cardi.
I was going to ask you how you're doing, but I already know.
It's Friday, man.
I got a sore throat today.
This weather's been dealing with me.
Yeah.
It's Friday.
Can't hear my co-host.
He's saying something, but I can't hear him.
Can you hear me now?
No, I said my co-host.
Oh, hold on.
That's Sandy Williams.
Good morning to you, Sandy.
How you doing, man?
today.
I know, man.
I know I wish it could be 74 tomorrow because I'll be back here in Racine for a rally for democracy, a Democratic party of Racine County, Racine Resistance Groups tomorrow, 10.30 a.m.
Racine Monument Square, Congresswoman Glenn Moore, Assembly Leader.
Greta Newbauer, Angelina Cruz, Assembly Representative, Social Security, Medicare, Veterans Affairs, Medicaid, Public Education, Civil Rights, and more.
And it's gonna be a demonstration.
Demonstrate your freedom of speech with signs and flags, 11 a.m.
program with featured speakers.
So Sandy, I'm doing my civic duty.
Well, you know, you know, anything is possible today, Sandy.
We got a lot to talk about today.
But I first want to say, man, like you said, 74 degrees, man.
Can you believe that?
Yeah.
Yeah, and one day the things we normally talk about the the weather the bucks Basketball generally, you know, this is this is basketball madness now for a while and unfortunately the Bucks have stubbed their toe a bit with With Damien going down, but you know, I think they're gonna be okay to be honest with you I think they play all right without him.
Yeah.
Well, you know, they're not gonna go very far first round maybe in
You know, if they, if they get passed, if they, if they wind up playing Indiana the first round without Damian Lillard, it's a wrap.
But anyway, Sandy, you know, sports, as much as I love you and I love sports, it's, you know, we can't, it's got to prioritize.
And since you're only on with me a couple hours a week now,
Man we have to talk about Where we are sandy this the the the earth is caving in on
I'm not that concerned about policies and shifts in policies.
I have a preference in what the policy ought to be.
But policies are what elections are about.
And if they could run things through Congress and change policies in the normal process, that's the way the system works.
But what we're watching right now is completely a reversal of the norms of process.
policies are being rammed through, not by congressional action, not by the will of the people, but by executive fiat.
I mean, Donald Trump, they've worked it out so that this has become Donald Trump's personal government in the same manner that the government would become personal to a dictator.
And he's able to turn all of the guns of government on any foe that he chooses, whether it be law firms that crossed him up somewhere along the way.
He's just put out an executive order with respect to a law firm that related to a law firm where Robert Miller was a partner long ago and then was once again briefly involved with them.
But I mean, the only reason.
that he's turned the guns on this major law firm is because Robert Mueller had been a part of it.
I mean, that's strictly personal vendetta.
And it wasn't the law firm that was involved in the Mueller in the Mueller investigation.
It was Robert Mueller.
Well, you know, saying individually, not as part of that law firm.
Well, Sandy, that's not surprising.
Remember the group of people who were charged with investigating
Donald Trump in January 6 and all those people that were Congress people
Yes, he went after them.
Well, and he's still is presuming that he might go after them.
He's claiming the pardons to them were null and void in a specious kind of illegal argument, which I think was opening the door for the notion that now he can sick the Department of Justice.
on them for the purpose of harassment, because there's no potential that you could get a sitting Congressperson to be held liable for things they do in their capacity as Congresspeople on the floor of Congress.
It's crazy.
But I mean, I think that the American public, the law firm thing is representative of...
other things that he's doing, which is to basically threaten individuals, businesses, corporations with suffering all of the slings and arrows that his government can aim at them to try and ruin their life if they bother to be contrary to his view.
I mean, what's happening is we're watching a government that's pursuing ideological purity everywhere.
no dissent anywhere.
And if there is dissent, it will be squashed.
The threats he made to the law firm were threats not just to withdraw government business from the law firms themselves, but to withdraw government business from any client of that law firm, which was obviously a potential ruin to a client, to a client and to the law firm itself.
And so that's...
That's bringing down the reins of government on something in a manner that's never been seen
before.
Well, Sandy, he's done it to universities, okay?
You didn't do the things that you should have done to stop the dissent on your campuses, so we're gonna make sure you don't get any resources.
Well, and the
to negotiate with the president directly.
So the president of Colombia had to sit down in the president's office and negotiate the terms of the renewal of this $400 million of grants with the president.
And the head of the Paul Weiss law firm had to go sit with the president and negotiate with the president about what it is that the government would or wouldn't do to them.
That's never been done before.
The president doesn't get involved in prosecution.
or the issuance of grants or the decisions about them in the manner that this president is doing.
So we're watching this before our eyes.
It gets worse every second of every day.
And it seems more and more distant that anything can be done to correct it.
And so it's only been two months, man.
individuals and it's being done purposefully.
These ICE arrests of people are being videoed by ICE themselves and they're making them the objects of chilling terror so that the public understands what can happen to them if they stick their head up and say something contrary.
So, you know, the only allegation against these students who've been arrested is that they spoke out and asked questions about the policies with respect to
Palestine that was enough apparently to get them expelled and expelled Unceremoniously you know in shackles well, and and so you know that I think this is designed to be chilling not just to immigrants But to the American public and that's the same reason as well that these assaults are made on these law firms The government Donald Trump is trying to make people understand if you cross Donald Trump
All hell will break loose.
It's the same kind of conversation that he used about how he would treat Hamas.
You know, all hell will break loose.
Holy hell will break loose.
That's what he's demonstrating will happen to anybody in the United States.
If they if they bother to dissent or if they bother to pursue an analysis of history, for instance, that runs contrary to the ideologically pure analysis of history that's being required now.
So,
you
Smithsonian.
You and I have been around.
Well, you and I have been around a while.
So we know.
This is who Donald Trump is.
He's always done this.
I don't care even in his private business He's anybody who would cross him There would be a price to be paid And so
He didn't understand the tools of government He didn't have facilitators around him who were one who wanted to facilitate this kind of conduct
on his behalf, now he has accomplished that.
He has put all of the people in place around, in the government, in the various jobs that are responsible for public policy.
And they are people who want to facilitate this form of personal conduct by Donald Trump, this kind of personal control of the government, apparently, because that's what they're doing.
And to be honest with you, what's happening now,
This is not policy I'm arguing about, it's process.
And what's happening with process is unfathomable.
I couldn't have imagined it.
Elon Musk.
telling yesterday, last night, telling the world that the United States government will come down on those left-wing propagandists who are filling the heads of people with kinds of ideas which might be driving them to attack Teslas.
Now, there is no left-wing leader who is telling people to attack Teslas.
So what's happening is he's basically saying left-wing conversation should be the subject of Government Act.
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It's Friday.
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Sandy, the music.
Well, I decided I went to my AAI source and asked it to give me music that was reflective of drinking songs and people who might be drunk with power.
And that's what I got today, because that's what I think what we're watching is a president who is actually drunk with power.
He doesn't drink, I guess, alcohol, but he drinks some other potent something that is, so music today relates to that.
Yeah, McDonald's sodas.
Before the break, we were talking about something, and one of the things that I think is so ironic about this is one of the things that Wright constantly talked about was
cancel culture, and how it was that the left would, from a social standpoint, cancel people who didn't meet the litmus of left-wing thinking.
Well, what we're watching right now is the most horrific kind of cancel culture, where the government is using all of its tools and all of its powers to actually cancel people.
people, cancel companies, cancel businesses who are not ideologically pure, who would bother to be contrary in their view to the White House.
It's astonishing.
And it's horrifying, actually.
If I had a bell to ring, I was looking for one.
I was going to ring it because I think we should all be hearing an alarm bell as we watch what happens.
So
let me ask you, Sandy, what is it going to take?
There's still
49% 48% of Americans those who supported Donald Trump who still support him Even in the face of all this there's some Yoko on on the text message now sending these ridiculous responses What is it going to take Sandy for those people who supported them missing a few social security checks?
Or is it or is it going to be veterans not getting their benefits?
I mean, what is it going to take for these people to realize?
That he's he's he's
Well, I think it's going to have to be one of those, have you no decency, sir, moments like happened to Joe McCarthy in the McCarthy hearings when an army general finally had the temerity to speak out against him.
I think the American public at some point, those who cherish personal freedom, are going to realize that they are the chicken in the pot.
There's water in the pot, the heat's been turned on, and it's going to boil.
And they'll realize that we are on a perilous course towards the removal of personal freedoms the way things are happening in this country.
And I think that the American spirit ultimately is embedded in personal freedom.
And when they realize that that's what's at stake here,
policies be damned, you know, we sure we can streamline government.
That's a policy that can be pursued.
But but to pursue it in a manner that is currently being pursued is to destroy not just inefficiency, but it's to destroy actually the American government.
And that's something.
And I don't mean the bureaucrats in American government.
I mean, the vital constitutional processes of American government.
You know, Sandy, every
Every day that goes by, it gets worse and it gets more entrenched.
You're talking about Elon Musk, just watching him last night and his group.
And you're saying, man, can this really be happening?
This is the United States of America for having sakes, man.
Here's a guy who's not even elected.
Who is calling the shots?
Well, and he underestimates what the rest of the world, the strength of the rest of the world, if the American public isn't exhibiting the kind of strength to stand up to him, I think he has to understand that the rest of the world will.
You know, Prime Minister Martin.
Carney, the new prime minister of Canada yesterday, in response to these 25 percent tariffs, which is really a direct throwdown tariff war, an act of tariff war against Canada.
That's what it's aimed at.
He basically said, look, our relationship with the United States is over as it was.
We're going to turn to other trade partners.
We're going to turn to the rest of the world.
And we're going to stop relying on the United States.
We're going to stop being dependent.
Did upon it for imports or for exports and they will accomplish it I mean there are some ready markets out there of China being a very primary one Who can who can definitely be a surrogate for the United States?
You know Sandy the worst part about it is you know these people who continue to Say you know Trump is my guy Trump is my man and all those kind of things
It has, they haven't seen, I guess, enough yet, um, before they finally realize it's almost, it'll be too late to turn back, Sandy.
It'll be too late to turn it around.
Um, because those people, again, many of them, Sandy, average people who average Tom Dick and Mary who voted for
Trump.
expecting some change in
Go ahead.
Yeah, I mean, almost 100% of what's happened so far has been done by executive order.
Congress has not done anything yet to implement any of
what a Trump is doing.
So we should understand that the plan here, the game plan here is to use executive power well beyond its normal range and to dare the Supreme Court to rein him in.
Sandy, did you hear
you just said?
Dare the United States Supreme Court.
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So, Canada has now basically said we're no longer partners with the United States.
And this is a partnership that goes back to 1940.
And Donald Trump,
walks in the door and single-handedly destroys that relationship that is going to impact many American citizens.
And he has no feelings at all about, you know, what he's done.
It doesn't even set with him.
If Donald Trump's mind, and apparently the people who support him with policy, is not just idle talk.
This kind of behavior and what he's doing with Canada suggests that he's trying to bring them to their knees economically so that they'll do that and become the 51st state, which is a crazy idea, that much geography being one state.
It would undoubtedly, each province would be a state, and we'd find out that the Republican Party would be done forever because they'd probably be more left leaning than the rest of the country.
They also have a health program that
Maybe they could export to us, because everyone in Canada has health care.
It's probably an enviable thing from the American public standpoint.
But yeah, I mean, his quest for power and his quest for geography seems to be insatiable.
And he's going to destroy...
Having a trade war with Canada is just the beginning of a trade war with the world, which will totally disrupt our economy.
And there are some who believe that part of his strategy is to have a recession, which will weaken the dollar.
And by weakening the dollar, make our exports more attractive.
But once again, recessions are something that is suffered by Tom Dick and Mary.
It's not suffered by people who live in gold houses.
You know, Sandy, he wants to be a bad guy.
And, you know, we know that's who he is.
He's always been a bad guy.
But, you know, he could be a bad guy, Sandy.
And as long as he was in the business world.
But let me ask you, for the people who say they want the government to be run like a business, your business guy,
Is that sensical?
I mean, it depends on what running like a business means, but if you talk about running something efficiently, running it so that it pursues its objectives effectively and efficiently.
That's what businesses try to do, and that's what the government ought to do.
The government ought to pursue what it is that the government has been asked by Congress and the people to do.
It ought to pursue doing those things effectively.
carrying out the mission and do it efficiently so that it isn't too expensive.
If that's running it like a business, that's a sound idea.
But if running it like a business means that you come in and you sack people left and right and cut expenses willy-nilly, you're maybe acting like a private equity firm that's trying to parasitically feed off a business.
you're not acting like a business that wants to have a long-term prospect and be successful.
So, you know, I think running it like a business, some people object to that, but I think the question is, what do you mean by it?
But that isn't what we're watching right now.
Okay, this is not people running things like a business.
They're running it like a personal possession.
Let's go to Richard from Walker Show.
Good morning to Richard.
You say what?
Well, I'm wondering if you guys are aware of Canada and their situation of connecting the two oceans together.
They've been channeling from Lake to Lake over from, you know, the Pacific to the Atlantic.
And I'm wondering how far they are on that.
And that'll probably bring roads and pipelines along there.
So, so what are your thoughts about what Donald Trump is doing to Canada?
Well, Canada has a smaller population and it doesn't make any sense at all to be not cooperative or partnership with them because Canada probably has more connections with England with with their history and with their businesses.
and with their actions from the Second World War, and in England probably wants to be connected with them because they're close to Russia.
They have the fear from that.
It doesn't make any
sense.
Hey, Richard, thank you for the call.
Thank you very much for listening.
Sandy, you want to respond to Richard?
to
have cooperation with Canada So, you know what he's trying to do is take someone with with whom we've had the ultimate form of cooperation I mean our whole air defense missile defense system has radar sites that run throughout Canada You know a Canada is a big part of the defense of the United States
On the other hand, what what Donald Trump wants to say is that Canada is is Parasitically using the United States as its defender But the fact is that Canada has been very active in every sort of warfare that we participated in they preceded us into World War two and you know Canada is a very strong national nationalist country feel strongly about their Canadian qualities and
The notion that we can't cooperate with countries effectively and what we need to do is own them is something, a new notion that Donald Trump has brought up.
Clearly, I think, to be honest with you, and I went and did the math on this, when you take Canada and put it into the United States, and you take Greenland and add it to it, suddenly the United States geography is materially bigger than Russia, which is the biggest land mass country in the world.
And I believe...
that if you could sit Donald Trump down and give him truth serum, he's done that same math.
And what he wants is for when he leaves the presidency, he wants to be able to say that the United States became the biggest country in the world under Donald Trump.
And that's the objective.
It's not a policy objective.
Let's go to Mike from Kenosha.
Good morning to you, Mike.
You say what?
Good morning.
A couple of things very quickly.
J.D.
Vance says.
that we really need to be ruthless when it comes to exercising our power.
That's what JD Vance said recently.
An author of Project 2025, Curtis Yarvin said, a reboot of the USA must occur and we must seize all points of power.
He continues to say that,
the executive branch needs to be run without any interference from Congress or the courts.
Now, I just gave you three specific cases, quotes, that clearly show that these insurrectionists are attempting to overthrow our government, completely nullify the U.S.
Constitution,
just like we've been talking about for way too long, turn the United States into a authoritarian nation.
All the actions, all the wordsmithing that they're using, everything shows this.
So I gotta say, the only thing I think that can save us is the Fourth Estate.
And that is the media and the courage of those involved with our media
to speak truth to power.
With that, then we can unify, we can organize, and we can find millions of people who are willing to walk the walk and defend our nation and the U.S.
Constitution from this obvious attempt to seize all power.
You're doing a great job, Earl.
You're going after this with both eyes wide open.
You're speaking truth to power, but unfortunately, today you are a minority.
We don't have enough of that going across the media.
So Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, hang on a second.
Sandy, you want to respond to anything Mike is saying?
That's why I told you I was so horrified when I read all of Project 2025.
because it is a manifesto which describes in a direct assault on the constitutional organization of our government and to change it into something in which we have authoritarianism.
And I'm just astonished that it would be conservatives who wrap themselves in the Constitution who would take this position.
But now we're watching it unfold and to be honest with you, I think we're much closer to having it, to seeing it
Already accomplished when we see what the president has done with all the tools of government to Columbia to law firms to any object that bothers him to the Lincoln Center I mean some of these things sound trivial, but they aren't you know taking over that the the Lincoln the Kennedy Center taking over the Smithsonian trying to organize its policies taking over
collegiate institutions and reorganizing the way they go about their business.
It's horrifying.
Mike.
I've been a city.
I totally understand that government must have a role to play in regulation of business and providing safety nets and in making infrastructure and protecting civil rights.
We get that, but unfortunately we have this whole machine.
that is very mature, that dominates in small-town and rural America, that has been the antithesis of real freedom and democracy.
They've worked against us.
This has been a long time coming, and unfortunately, they're out of the cage, and we're gonna have a hell of a time to put them back in.
But I do believe the Fourth of State, as it's been designed,
In states' rights, we can work this effort, but it has to happen quickly, and we the people got to wake up and look at the world through both of our eyes.
Hey, Mike, Will said, thank you very much for the call.
You know, Sandy, you're a guy who's always been a big proponent of free speech, right?
As long as I've known you, free speech.
Gotta have yeah, you know gotta have free speech Taking away free freedom of speech man No,
provided from an official standpoint for the deportation of these students is simply their speech.
And the reason that he's giving for attacking these law firms is simply the speech of their clients.
And he's, you know, he's threatening these law firms with removing all of their clients from the roles of people eligible to do business with the United States.
I mean, this is using the
the tools of government for his own personal power and a grandisement.
And it's very effective because people have to bend in the face of that, or many of them feel a need to bend in the face of that.
You know, Sandy, your thoughts on the other side about if there's a way to get out of this.
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We're in sandy your music selection.
You know, Sandy, before we go back to the phone lines, I just wanted to mention this.
Trump orders targets, divisive narratives in Smithsonian museums.
So this was on yesterday.
Donald Trump ordered cities.
an exhibit at the American Art Museum titled Stories of Race in American Sculpture and References at the National Museum of African American History.
Museums in our nation's capitals should be places where individuals go to learn, not be subjected to ideological indoctrination, divisive narratives that distort our shared history, the order states.
Wait a minute.
Shared history is what was happening.
That's why those things were in the museums.
Shared history.
And he's turned all of that on its head.
Well, apparently his version of shared history involves the stuff that's shared by white, though people who have white skin, because
What what they view is ideologically impure and what they view as divisive is simply divulging to the current generation the history of race relations in the country
You know and I understand he he let's do this.
Let's go to the phone lines Bring Tim in before the break.
Good morning to you Tim.
You say
what?
Internet where Elon Musk says that people are going to get more Social Security under doge.
Well, this is all part of the plan to break Social Security.
They're laying off all these people.
So all that money is not going to be going into Social Security.
And if they increase the outtake, they're going to say, see, it went broke.
We told you that this is coming.
So this is all part of the plan.
You know, you know, Sandy, there's been nonstop conversation about, well, he's not going after social security.
He's not going after, he's not going after Medicare.
He's not going after Medicaid.
You've been saying forever, there's only four places he can go to offset the tax break for the billionaires, for the wealthy.
And so he's gotta go at some of those things they have to go after.
everything they propose in the way of cuts still, even if they achieve them, wouldn't match the size of the tax cut they want.
So they're talking about increasing deficits.
So part of what's going on here is them struggling to deal with the situation in which they know that the increasing size of the national debt is a problem.
Moody's and others are telling us that.
And so they're trying to figure out a way to have their cake and eat it too, to have the tax cut.
and to have increasing deficits and to somehow deal with the debt side of that by weakening the dollar, forcing other nations to take no interest or zero interest bearing debt instruments to try and ease the burden on our economy.
It's all the same kind of financial restructuring that Donald Trump must have carried out in his private businesses on his path to bankruptcy.
You know, this isn't sound business.
Well, Sandy, you...
it is clear that it's not about business with them.
It's about their tax breaks and tax cuts.
And I just have never been able to understand, I don't know how much they get if you're a billionaire and they're cutting $4.5 trillion, what that actually looks like on the bottom line for a billionaire guy, how much money he actually saves.
But my question would be,
Okay, whatever that amount is, Sandy, it doesn't change you being a billionaire.
So why would they not be concerned about the impact that it has on the average, everyday American?
a source of ideological purity because it doesn't make sense to Tom Dick and Mary.
Tom Dick and Mary had their way rationally.
We'd be talking today about revising the health care system and avoiding this terrible benefits cliff that is experienced by people who move from Medicaid into jobs and suddenly have to pay for a very large health insurance bill that makes them worse off with the job than they were without.
the job.
And this is all the result of the fact that we don't have something like Medicare for all.
We have a system that's different.
And so I think the Republicans just want to duck from actually talking about policy and try to make taxes and government expenditure a prime issue.
Well, you
know, Sandy, half of Tom Dick and Mary doesn't understand this.
And that's why they vote against their own interests.
And and they somehow still
believe they're on the other side of this.
And that Donald Trump is going to be their savior.
Yeah.
And we'll do more of that on the other side.
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