Losing Rights,Values,& Morals. (Hour 2)

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Losing Rights,Values,& Morals. (Hour 2)

The Earl Ingram Show · Mon Mar 17, 2025

Radio Introduction

Music on my mind.

Earl Ingram (host)

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I was getting into the music.

I almost forgot I had a show to do.

But anyway, I want to welcome back my good friend, Mr. Reggie Jackson.

He's the CEO of Reggie Jackson Incorporated.

Reggie Jackson is an award-winning journalist, a speaker, researcher, and writer with a deep comprehensive knowledge of how our country's racial

hierarchy developed historically and its impact on our lives today.

He's a graduate of Concordia University, co-founder of, you know, many other things.

He's a griot at America's Black Holocaust.

In addition, he's won so many awards, it would take the entire show to, you know, to talk about it.

But anyway, Reggie's going to be joining me every Monday at nine o'clock.

Reggie, thank you for accepting the invitation, man.

I look forward to us having great dialogue, man.

Reggie Jackson (guest)

It's great to be here with you again, Earl, looking forward to it.

Earl Ingram (host)

I mean, I have to start here, Reggie.

You are a military veteran.

And I have to ask you as a military veteran, how you feel about Donald Trump's anti-diversity push.

at Arlington Cemetery.

Arlington National Cemetery has purged its website of pages about notable black Hispanic and women veterans as well as information about the Civil War and black history as the Trump administration's ongoing effort to remove references to diversity and inclusion on government web pages.

Reggie, it's clear.

He doesn't know what the hell diversity, equity and inclusion stands for and neither do the people who support him.

But as black men, as black Americans, what does it, how does it make you feel to see this assault and this attack really on blacks, on

Reggie Jackson (guest)

Hispanics, on women?

It's the height of disrespect, Earl.

Nothing to be more disrespectful in disrespecting veterans.

you know uh it it appears to me this is just a blatant attempt i mean blatantly racist attempt racist misogynist homophobic attempt to erase the history of anybody who's not a straight white male from anything related to american history they want to make it

appear that the only people that have ever done anything in this country worthwhile are straight white men.

They don't want to talk about any woman that's ever done anything noteworthy.

Any person of color that's ever done anything noteworthy.

It's very blatant.

It's becoming more and more blatant every day, Earl.

You know, some people want to deny it.

Oh, it's DEI.

You don't know what hell DEI is.

Excuse my French.

No, no, no.

They don't know what it is.

They don't really care.

That's the key point is they don't care to know what it is, Earl.

It's very easy to discover what DE&I is.

There are so many scholars that do this work.

And it's not hard to figure out what it is.

But they've labeled it.

They've controlled a narrative about it in such a way that people think that it's something bad, that it's an attack on white society somehow, when nothing could be further from the truth or all.

It's just absolutely ridiculous and the level of racism.

from this administration has reached an all-time high in my opinion.

I saw this during the first Trump administration.

My company that I used to work with, Nurture Diversity Partners, we were in negotiations with US Marine Corps to do some training on unconscious bias when Trump issued his executive order in September of 2020.

banning any work that he called divisive concepts.

And that pretty much ended those conversations we were having with Marine Corps.

We lost that contract.

I was very upset because you're literally taking money out of my pocket and forcing, you know, the U.S.

Marine Corps, who had reached out to us.

We didn't reach out to them.

They reached out to us because we had done some work with the U.S.

Department of Energy.

And I guess it went over so well that they told some folks at the U.S.

Marine Corps.

that they should hire us through the same training.

And so it's really, I've been saying this to people for a long period of time, that racism is a powerful force.

People want to act like all this stuff that's been happening that we call DE and I, or whatever name we've chosen to call it over the last 50, 60 years, regardless of what's name it is, they want to label that stuff as reverse racism.

And somehow it's reverse racism against white people.

It's just so ridiculous.

But when you start to talk about the people in Arlington National Cemetery, these heroic people that are there, it's just the height of disrespect for the US military.

But I mean, look what they're doing to the Veterans Administration.

They're firing people that work for the Veterans Administration.

uh, firing veterans that work for the veterans administration.

So this administration has no respect for military veterans.

I don't care if you black, white, Hispanic, whatever, they've shown that they have no respect for you.

Uh, and the height of ridiculousness is when they remove references to the Enola Gay, the airplane that dropped the first atomic bomb on Japan because it had the word gay in the name of it.

I mean, that, that is just showing you how just ridiculously stupid these people are.

You know, Reggie.

Earl Ingram (host)

You know, Reggie, it would be it wouldn't be such an issue if Donald Trump was standing alone with this foolishness.

But he's still got almost 50 percent of the population that agrees with them.

And so

Reggie Jackson (guest)

I think they voted for him.

Yes.

But I can guarantee you, Earl, there's a lot of people that voted for that man that is sitting and regretting that decision.

He had buyer's remorse, a lot of them.

I've been reading articles, you know over the last couple weeks about people that voted for Donald Trump that sin they regret his decision There's a man here in Wisconsin who voted for Donald Trump and last week they decided to deport his wife And he said he's so upset about you know the fact that his wife could be deported So, you know, even though he you know, this is November this this is March now and a lot of those people have voted for him back in November

I'm sure don't feel the same way about him as they felt back in November.

Earl Ingram (host)

So if you're just joining me, I am joined by Mr. Reggie Jackson.

He is the CEO of Reggie Jackson Inc.

He is going to be joining me every Monday morning at nine o'clock, and we're going to be discussing a whole array of subjects and a whole array of things.

Reggie, I have to say to you, man,

Nobody can argue about whether or not what's at the root of Donald Trump and his minions is racism and bigotry.

And and so, you know, again, he doesn't stand alone.

And so this ugly.

Historical part of our nation never went away.

And so it's still there.

And so as as a as a black man.

a black American, I have to tell you, to see this happening in broad daylight and not having enough people speak out in public about what they know this is.

Just blatant racism.

And yet, we're supposed to say, you know, he's the president, he's my president.

Hell no, he's not my president.

Okay, I didn't vote for him.

And so those of you who support him, you see what he's doing, you know what he is.

If you support that, you know, Dr. King said, what allows this to happen, Reggie, is that the good people are silent, right?

I mean, that's what he said.

Going back, going back 60 years ago.

Reggie Jackson (guest)

And it still stands today.

They call them good people as a misnomer, Earl, because obviously they were good people.

They would be speaking up.

They would be saying something.

They're not good people.

Let's not give them that label.

They're not good people because they're not speaking out against what's happening.

They're not paying attention to what Elon Musk and so-called doge, which isn't really a real organization.

The only way you can have a government organization has to be created by Congress.

The president can't create a government organization.

It's illegal.

Doge is illegal.

It doesn't really exist other than the minds of Elon Musk and some other folks.

It's not even real, but Trump has given it the power to act like it's something real.

And I'm looking at Congress and I'm just so disappointed in Congress.

just sitting back and just watching all of this foolishness happen and saying literally next to nothing about it.

I'm very disappointed with our former president, Barack Obama, you know.

Not saying a word.

He's been, you know, so quiet.

Bill Clinton.

Bill Clinton.

George Bush Jr.

You know, George Bush.

All of these men that served as president that claim they love this country so much, and they're watching this man destroy this country, and they're saying next to nothing about it.

You know, another person is disappointing me, Oprah Winfrey, who people, oh, she could have won the election.

No, she couldn't have won the election.

People in this country are not willing to vote for a woman president.

So when we talk about, you know, all the black men that voted for Donald Trump,

Well, you know, some of those those men are men who would never vote for a woman for president.

So, you know, it's disappointing.

Earl Ingram (host)

So so listen, it is.

It doesn't stop there.

Trump signs order to dismantle several, I mean, seven federal agencies focused on media, libraries and homelessness.

Wait a minute.

OK, so here's a monster.

a man who has no heart, who wants to cut funding for homelessness.

What kind of monster is willing to cut the support that people who live on the streets in the wealthiest nation on earth and people don't open their damn mouths?

Oh, that's Donald Trump is my man.

He's my man.

Look, look, let's listen to this statement from this guy.

Okay.

Why did the Supreme Court have to rule against racial quotas?

If there wasn't any in June, 2023, the US Supreme Court ruled against race, uh, conscious admit admissions in college and university admissions, effectively ending the front of action in higher education in the cases of student versus fair admissions.

president and fellows of Harvard College and students for fair admissions and Inc.

versus University of North Carolina.

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Reggie Jackson

It is me.

Earl Ingram (host)

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My guest is Mr. Reggie Jackson.

Again, he's gonna be joining me every Monday at nine o'clock.

You know, Reggie, I was talking about, you know, the response that this guy, James,

Had to say let me let me do this before I turn it over to you President Trump on Friday signed an executive order that aims to eliminate Seven federal agencies including ones that focus on media libraries museums and ending homelessness Reggie your thoughts

Reggie Jackson

But Earl uh once again this shows me how often these people have no argument Who have no leg to stand on when it comes to what we're talking about tries to change the subject Earl James listen, man We're not gonna change the subject.

You want to change the subject?

You call the wrong station all we need is to serve to talk shows We don't want to talk about this BS.

You just brought up.

We're talking about something completely different We're not gonna change the topic just because you're not comfortable answering what we're saying

Earl Ingram (host)

Find another show

Very, very well said, my friend.

Let's go to Mike from Kenosha.

Good morning to you, Mike.

You say what?

Mike, are you there?

OK, let's go to Tom from LA.

Good

Tom from LA (caller)

morning, Earl.

Good morning.

Good morning.

I just want to say that, first off, I would vote for Ann.

for state superintendent of schools and also genie for superintendent of schools over that Kensinger because to me she's a whooping sheep clothing.

And also, he is doing just like Donald Trump that she said grocery she talked about one on one.

Okay,

Earl Ingram (host)

Tom.

Tom from LA (caller)

So now I'm gonna ask my question.

I know I went back I just wanted to get that off my chest.

Reggie, do you think every day in this country that the United States of America, American citizens really understand the difference between private and public?

Because I don't think they do.

I know I did not know it until I was probably around 25 years old.

And I'm telling you what, these Republicans, at the helm, all of them.

want to privatize everything or privatize everything for their donors or for the rich.

The public is for the public good.

It is not there to make money.

Earl Ingram (host)

Hey Tom.

Tom from LA (caller)

They are for the public good and I hope that you guys keep repeating this day up to date because I tell you Earl, he wants to privatize

Earl Ingram (host)

everything.

Hey Tom, we're talking about the racist bigotry.

That is

Tom from LA (caller)

okay.

Earl Ingram (host)

Thank you very much for the call.

Thank you very much for the call Let's go to Mike From Kenosha Mike are you there?

Mike from Kenosha (caller)

Yeah, I'm here now.

Can you hear me?

Earl Ingram (host)

Yeah?

Mike from Kenosha (caller)

Yeah, very good.

Good morning.

Love Motown Monday.

Thanks for the great music.

Earl Ingram (host)

Thank you

Mike from Kenosha (caller)

good start of the week You know, I'm listening to You know both sides of the argument here as far as

you know seven out of ten students uh having trouble reading um and to me it couldn't be more on you know the dumbing down the taking away in of assets that the way you know somehow we devolved into funding our schools is it looks like it's designed to fail to me what do you think girl

Earl Ingram (host)

it's clearly designed to do that

you know

Mike from Kenosha (caller)

yeah and the poor outcomes are just are all over the place um and and i just have to say this this is not anything new um you know citizenship is either going to save us or the lack of citizenship is going to be our demise uh the lack of will

From the American people the manby-pamby attitude that you know, it's maybe not my problem Or I'm not going to go to the PTA meeting tonight or you know I'm going to find a way to get out of jury duty You know we got to get our heads back on straight girl, and it just seems to me that once the citizens Just say you know enough of this stuff.

We've all come pretty much come to the point Earl that this is all contrived

This conflict is unnecessary.

It's all about greed and authoritative power.

But yet somehow, to your point, roughly half of the people are missing it.

And when Reggie comes on, and we need Reggie to come on every Monday, we need to start opening up our eyes and quite frankly our hearts a little bit to the reality that we have found ourselves in.

So, I like to end it by saying this one more time.

Citizenship will either save us or it will sink us to the American people.

Earl Ingram (host)

Hey, Mike, call me after the show.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you very much for that.

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Reggie, so you've dedicated your life to trying to build bridges and to try to educate people on these differences.

And so, you know, you face a battle before, but this battle, your thoughts.

Reggie Jackson (interviewee)

Well, Earl, this this is just an intensification of what I've been dealing with my entire life.

And I tell people that I came into the world born in a little town in Mississippi that had a segregated hospital the day I was born.

So I've been dealing with this mess since day one, Earl.

And I'm just seeing an intensification of the same thing I've dealt with, you know, constantly.

And as I've traveled around the state of Wisconsin over 50 different communities talking to people about these topics, one things that I found is that people are very interested in learning a different version of American history.

They want to hear about, you know, the stories that they don't hear about in their schools.

They want to hear about the stories of women and, you know, people of color.

They want to hear those stories, Earl.

They asked me to come to these places so I can give them those stories.

They're not trying to run away from it.

And the people that don't show up are the same people, Earl.

I've said this many times before.

The people that don't show up when I go to these places, whether it's Warsaw, La Crosse, Jamesville, Beloit, Burlington, wherever I go and say to Wisconsin, the people that I notice that are absent from the room are typically white men.

They don't want to show up, Earl.

They don't want to hear any of these things.

They feel like it's an attack on them.

I actually had a man accused me of attacking white men.

When I started, the first thing that I've talked about was was white men.

How back in the 1920s, how immigration laws were trying to keep certain white people out of the country.

And he said, you didn't even talk about white men.

I said, dude, that's the first thing I talked about.

So they don't want to hear it, Earl.

Some of these people don't want to hear it.

Earl Ingram (host)

All right, let's go to Al.

Hey, Al, how you doing, man?

Al from Milwaukee.

Al from Milwaukee (caller)

Good, because I love me.

What's up, Reggie?

Reggie Jackson (interviewee)

Hey, Al, how you doing, brother?

Earl Ingram (host)

Yeah, we got you.

Go ahead.

All right.

Wounded, wounded, wounded veteran, wounded veteran.

Go ahead.

Al from Milwaukee (caller)

But why won't

Unnamed caller

we talk about the bottom line?

The bottom line is money.

And in 2016, when that idiot got in office, there were meetings around the world about reducing the population of the world by 3 billion people.

Shortly after that COVID hit.

After that, there was more garbage.

The point is, and I told you, Earl, a man wrote, and it wasn't me, an article.

that if Trump attacks Social Security and Medicare, it's about killing off 26 million or more people to free up money that he will then have access to.

He's trying to be as rich as or richer than that foe.

Earl Ingram (host)

Yeah, right.

Unnamed caller

Well, I know a name.

I didn't know the point is it's all about the dollar bill.

They don't care about people and they damn sure don't care about people of color.

So it's about getting to the money.

And in order to do that, if you destroy Medicare and Social Security, you have access to trillions of dollars sitting in

at interest in somebody's bank that they want to get their hands on.

All of this stuff about terminating all these people from their jobs is freeing up money.

They don't care about the U.S.

debt.

They care about if we can clear up all this money, I can get my hands on it.

Nobody's talking about that.

Earl Ingram (host)

Hey, thank you very much for

Unnamed caller

the

Earl Ingram (host)

call.

Let's go to Brian.

Good morning to Brian.

You say what?

Brian (caller)

Good morning.

Yeah.

You know, the thing that really surprises me with everything going on is how many people are just sitting back.

I hear from people who voted for Trump, the people who didn't vote for Trump, that say, well, what's going on now isn't affecting me.

So I'm not going to do anything until it does.

How much worse do you need to get?

You know what I mean?

And it's it posts up on Facebook all the time.

about how we need to vote, how we need to stand up for this, how we need to fight back.

And I still get people saying, well, do you really need to post that?

Why don't we just let the Republican Party pull on itself?

It's not going to.

This is the time that we all need to come together and stand up for each other.

I don't care if you're black, white, Asian, whatever.

We're all human beings, and this is going to affect everyone.

And they need to

Earl Ingram (host)

stand up for each other.

Hey, Brian, you're right on point, sir.

Reggie.

Reggie Jackson (interviewee)

Yeah, Brian, listen, you're on point.

It's going to affect everybody.

But listen, some people, they can be right in front of a train that's coming down the

Earl Ingram (host)

tracks and

Reggie Jackson (interviewee)

sitting there looking at the train, and they won't move.

That's who some of these people are.

They're waiting for the train to hit them.

They're not going to do anything.

They're not going to try to start their car up and move off the train tracks until the train literally hits their car.

and they're not gonna do anything until the train hits their car.

I think it's too late.

Part of what I have an issue with is that people are so reactive.

Instead of being proactive, they should have been doing stuff.

They should have been coming together before this man got in office.

Again, we saw what he did the first time he was in office.

We think he was gonna do something different.

Listen, the difference between Trump 1.0 and 2.0 is when he came in office in 2016, he brought a bunch of idiots with him.

A bunch of complete idiots who didn't know what the heck they were doing, and he was firing people left and right.

People don't remember that.

His first hundred days, he fired out on how many people.

But this time, at least, he brought in some people that are somewhat intelligent.

They may be horrible people, but they're smart, and they know a little bit more about how to destroy stuff than those people he brought in within the first time.

Earl Ingram (host)

Hey, Brian, thank you very much for the call.

Cindy in Appleton, Europe, next.

Cindy from Appleton (caller)

Hello, good morning.

I just wanted to say that it's not only a lot of black men that voted for the convicted felon.

It was also a lot of church parishioners because they were brainwashed by their pastors into voting for him because of the abortion issue, which doesn't have anything to do with it because he could care less about that.

And you have a caller, Earl, her name is Cassandra, who is a black woman who had the opportunity to vote for a black woman, yet she chose to vote for the old, pale, stale, male, convicted, rapist.

And she's still very proud of that.

So I don't know how you guys wrap your heads around the fact that the people of color voted for the biggest racist on the planet.

Earl Ingram (host)

Well, I can tell you the the numbers of people of color who voted for Donald Trump aren't what people are acting or or acting as though overwhelming numbers of people of color voted for Donald Trump.

Not the case, Reggie, is it?

Reggie Jackson (interviewee)

No, no, absolutely not.

And she's ignoring the fact that a majority of white women voted for Donald Trump.

Did you did you not notice those those data points, too?

So let's not blame the people of color.

Majority of white women voted for Trump.

Each time he's run, he's gotten the majority of the white female vote.

So let's not act like white women are responsible as to.

Earl Ingram (host)

Hey, Cindy, thank you very much for the call.

Where do we go next?

David, David, you're up next.

You say what?

David (caller)

Oh, thanks, Earl.

Yeah, I'm just going to raise the basics that racism is taxation without representation.

That, you know, and when whether it's bigots like Elon Musk and his little crew or bigots like Trump or bigots like the GOP.

They basically say, oh, these people don't deserve to have good schools.

They don't deserve to have good roads.

And they pretend that the rich pay taxes.

But in fact, the rich don't pay taxes.

And the poorest bum pays more taxes than general motors.

So the idea that.

you know, people are spending way too much time analyzing this when it's simply taxation without representation.

Earl Ingram (host)

All right, David, thank you very much for the call.

Eric from TOSA, you're up.

Eric from TOSA (caller)

Hello, Earl.

Hello, Reggie.

It's nice to talk to you again.

I'm sorry, I just had to jump on really quickly about hearing someone calling out Cassandra.

Now, I will at times criticize Cassandra's opinions.

But again, like Reggie made clear, I believe it's 53% of white women and nearly 60% of white men voted for this catastrophe.

I believe it's more than 80% of black folks nationwide did not vote for this.

So let's not cherry pick our judgments when we're trying to figure out what's going on here and just move forward as a whole.

We need to stop splitting hairs here.

Earl Ingram (host)

Hey, Eric, thank you very much for the call.

Cassandra, you're up next.

Because Andrew All right, so let's see So Reggie, you know at the root at the root of all of it Is how do we get out of it, right?

Okay, because even in the face of all these you saw where he was He basically ignored the judge's orders yesterday Okay, the same man who talks about criminals

Criminals in our community.

We got to lock the people up their criminals.

Here's the president

Reggie Jackson (interviewee)

of the United Convicted felon.

Calling people criminals.

Have you ever looked in the mirror?

Yes.

And totally no legitimacy when it comes to talking about that, in my opinion.

No, you can't talk about that when you're a convicted felon.

Earl Ingram (host)

Well, it clearly it did matter that he was a convicted felon.

Okay, because people voted for him anyway.

In the face of, as you stated, knowing what he did, here's the other part of this.

The Democrats are at the lowest ebb in history.

They're people blaming Democrats.

How do you blame the Democrats for what Donald Trump is and Republicans are doing, man?

Okay, okay, Democrats aren't in charge.

So to say that the Democrats should somehow You know, what are they supposed to do man?

To stop Donald Trump and the Republicans who control everything because people voted for them Donald Trump would not be in charge if he didn't get the majority of the votes So deal with the people who voted for him and the people who voted for him because they're not for the most part

screaming and yelling and saying to the top of their lungs, we made a mistake.

They're part of this train wreck.

OK, they've helped create this situation.

But the answer clearly is not, well, a Democrat, they're not doing anything.

What are you talking about, man?

Reggie Jackson (interviewee)

Well, the only people that are blaming Democrats are Republicans who don't want to take responsibility for their vote.

They voted for this this administration.

And they see all of the foolishness that he's doing, you know, ignoring judges, all the crazy stuff he's doing.

They don't want to take responsibility.

They're partly responsible.

I tell people, you voted for him.

You own all of the stuff he's doing.

You own it.

You voted for him.

They don't blame the Democrats.

Earl Ingram (host)

It's that

Reggie Jackson (interviewee)

simple.

Earl Ingram (host)

It's that simple, right?

I mean, come on.

It's that simple.

You knew who he was.

Well Joe Biden was too old and the Democrats knew that Joe Biden was too old and hey man come on My guest is Reggie Jackson and a war-winning journalist a speaker researcher writer with a deep comprehensive knowledge of our country's racial hierarchy developed historically and Its impact on our lives today.

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Let's go back to the phone lines and Cassandra.

Good morning to you, Cassandra.

You say what?

Cassandra (caller)

Hi, Earl.

Thanks for taking my call.

You know, I was working on my garden and I was listening to you and I heard my name mentioned twice on the air.

First of all, I'd just like to repeat for those who didn't hear or is that yes, I am a black female.

And yes, I did vote for Trump.

I have been, I am 59 years old.

I've been voting for the Democratic Party for 35 years.

And this election, I voted straight ticket Republican.

And I did so not because

I believe in MAGA, not because I buy into the entire Republican Party platform.

I did so because I am just frustrated with the ineptitude of the Democratic Party.

And I know you're short on time.

And Reggie, I would love to speak with you again on one of your Monday morning visits.

but there are a lot of haulers who are just uninformed about what is going on in the black community.

I came to my moment of epiphany early.

Are you all aware that the win with the black women coalition, they are so angry with Chuck Schumer over the continuing resolution on letting it pass?

that they are, that many of them are pulling their donation from Act Blue and the Democratic

Earl Ingham (host)

Party.

Okay, so what are they going to do?

Vote for Donald Trump and the Republicans, Cassandra, in the face of what we see them doing?

Is that what they're going to do?

Cassandra (caller)

Earl, here's something that white liberals and the Democratic Party have to wake up to.

During the 1990s, it was the white Irish people who were the pivotal vote.

during the 2000s, it wasn't Hispanics.

Today, the pivotal voter today are black conservatives.

So whether you like it or not, but you have black women who was considered the backbone of the Democratic Party, they're going to pull their money.

Shortly, they're going to say, I'm taking.

Earl Ingham (host)

I know.

So what are they going to do?

Vote for another a lunatic like Donald Trump?

Cassandra (caller)

They

Earl Ingham (host)

get what they deserve.

They get what they deserve.

Reggie, you want to respond?

Reggie Jackson (guest)

You know, Earl, I generally don't like to have this conversation because listen, people vote however they want to vote.

And I don't try to tell people to vote one way or the other.

Listen, I have issues with the Democratic Party as well.

But listen, they're not as crazy as this GOP under Donald Trump.

I don't care what they've done.

Historically, the Democratic Party has done a lot of damage to the black community, but they haven't done nearly as much damage as the Republican Party has done.

And to ignore that history, it's just foolishness to me.

Earl Ingham (host)

Because Andrew?

Cassandra (caller)

No, I don't know.

Our community is regressing.

What are we supposed to do?

Continue voting for a party that is not going to

Earl Ingham (host)

improve our... So is Donald Trump?

Approving it by eliminating the history of black people wiping it off from the face of our nation.

I don't follow that Cassandra

Cassandra (caller)

We are in we are in a situation where we have to figure out a new strategy.

Earl Ingham (host)

It's not it's not conservatives and Donald Trump.

I'm sorry

Cassandra (caller)

All right,

Earl Ingham (host)

thank you.

Thank you.

I wish I had more time.

Thank you very much for the call

Reggie, you know, how do you, you know?

Reggie Jackson (guest)

That's an educated woman, man.

That's an educated one.

I'm agreeing to disagree.

I'm all with that.

Listen, I can agree to disagree with her.

I'm not going to try to argue with Cassandra.

She feels the way she feels for whatever her reasons are.

But if you honestly believe that just leaving the Democrats and voting for Republicans is the way to go, then I think you need to reassess that.

the intelligence of that, because it's not intelligent.

Look at what the GOP is doing right now.

Listen to what Donald Trump is saying about us.

He's literally erasing black history, and you're saying, oh, those Democrats, well, tell me when they erased black history, when the Democratic Party erased black history, when they erased the names of people who served in the military.

Tell me when they were against...

things that have helped, you know, the entire community around the United States.

Diversity, equity, inclusion is about everybody.

It's not about eliminating certain groups.

It's about uplifting everybody.

And the GOP is doing the exact opposite of that.

And so your vote for the GOP, I tell people that voted for them, you're getting exactly what you deserve.

So Cassandra, I hope that you're not depending on social security because they're going to come after social security at some point.

And I'm hoping that, you know, years from now when you retire,

And you may be depending on social security.

I'm hoping it's still around for you.

And if it's not, then, you know, your vote for Donald Trump is part of reason.

It's not.

So just think about that.

Earl Ingham (host)

And so whatever that group of black women is, she's talking about, I'm glad it's not the majority of black women, because the majority of black women didn't go that direction.

A group of conservative black women certainly pales in comparison to all the black women who don't support that.

Hey, Reggie, thank you very much, man.

It went too fast.

We'll see you next Monday.

Congratulations on, you know, on accepting the invitation.

Up

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next, Jane

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McNair, Greg Bach.

Thank all of you who made the show go.

I'll see you guys back on tomorrow.

You've been tuned into the Erlingham Show.

See you later.

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