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Cardi.
What's going on, man?
Man, I have been waiting since Monday for this day to come early.
And I know you know that it's the weekend.
I know Saint knows that as well.
And it's finally Friday, man.
TGIF Friday, man.
How are you feeling today, brother?
Well, I guess I can't push back against it being Friday, but.
You know, maybe Sandy will.
No, no, it is Friday.
We have complete agreement here.
That's the day.
So Sandy, does it mean you're doing something special on the weekend?
No, no.
But my weekends are extended or distended.
I'm not sure what the right term is.
All right, it's Friday.
That means Friday's my co-host Sandy Williams.
Hey, good morning to you, Sandy.
How you doing, man?
I'm doing all right.
We enjoyed ourselves at the Bucks game last night.
They pulled it out.
It was good.
Yeah, it was, you know, I was reading some stuff, Sandy, about why the Bucks won't play small ball.
Why won't they give it a go?
You know they can play Kuzma Yanis Damian Lillard Well Trent Trent Well, I mean I mean we were seeing this last night you and I
were they actually you know, although they have this new this dude
Center that's a big guy that's good on defense and can run with the ball So yeah, they actually started playing some fast break basketball and it and it looked pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're very athletic
now
and And that was kind of something you and I and the world had been seen you got to give John Hortz Credit Sandy he really
He does know what he's doing.
He's a guy who can make something out of nothing, right?
Yeah, I mean, you know the people he well Middleton was obviously a major figure, but He's gotten a lot of new faces and pretty valuable ones and if you look at their draft level when they were drafted These are high draft picks as well.
I mean these were people with a lot of promise
Kevin Porter Jr.
was one of the top draft choices his year, and some other teams gave up on him, but he's a very talented guy, obviously.
Well, you know, Sandy, they're doing this without draft choices, without high draft choices.
They have no other choice but to rebuild the team the way they've done it, and they've actually done a good job of it.
Yeah, my sense is quite frankly that they're better right now than they were last year at the same time Even though the hopes their playoff hopes last year were higher than they are now I suspect that they might get better.
They might do better in the playoffs this year than they did last year.
I think they're gonna surprise some people the Denver Nuggets are a very good team, you know and And they did they handle them quite successful.
Well,
yeah Denver had won 10 out of the 11 games going into last night.
So
You know, I mean, they're playing a hot team.
But anyway, Sandy, before we get into all the different things we're going to talk about, Jeff Bezos has basically told the Washington Post he's going to control now their opinion columns and what they're writing.
And he basically wants to kind of move
them into the paper's opinion section with henceforth focus on defending personal liberties and free markets.
Sandy, what is, I mean, the media, we talk about government and we talk about all these other things Sandy, but they're taking away the freedom
of the press.
Donald Trump has successfully created a Kool-Aid trough in Washington that people are lined up in front of drinking the Kool-Aid out of.
And people are literally, particularly the people of great wealth.
whose great wealth is dependent on potential government acquiescence to how they operate, right?
So Amazon is in the crosshairs of potential antitrust actions from Washington.
It's gotten so big.
I mean, it's mainly because of its success, but if businesses get too big, they can get split up regardless of their good intent if they have too much market power.
Amazon has immense market power now, and I'm sure Jeff Bezos is very afraid that a Trump administration could bring its antitrust guns in the direction of Amazon and create real problems, or potentially its efforts in AI.
All these guys that are the oligarchs that are hanging around Washington now have a lot at stake with respect to the government policies, and all of them have decided that they don't want to risk that.
And they all are currying the favor of Donald Trump.
So here's Jeff Bezos with this major newspaper who's now talking about, you know, in the same language that is used by JD Vance, you know, this protection of free speech in the name of avoiding the repression from the government is hardly protecting free speech.
We know Zuckerberg.
Same thing.
Here's a guy who knuckled under to Donald Trump.
These are the three guys.
the three wealthiest men in this nation, Sandy, coming together to take away freedom of speech to the
American people.
Well, Bezos, you know, he's not taking away the freedom of speech.
What he's doing is he's going to control the speech of Washington.
He's going to control the speech of the Washington Post so that it doesn't cross.
get crosswise with Donald Trump.
And so what he's doing is knuckling under to Donald Trump's control of the press.
But that's the Washington Post.
Jeff Bezos, people know him, but they know more.
They read the Washington Post.
They trust the Washington Post.
And yet many of the people who are now there, the head guy said, well, I'm leaving.
I can't deal
with this.
Well, and in fact, Jeff Bezos was able to buy the Washington Post because the family selling it thought that he would have the independence that was derived from all of his wealth so that he could stand up to political pressure and make sure that the Washington Post, particularly its opinion side, would not kowtow to special interest.
And here we have just the opposite happening.
And it's a demonstration of when you
put too much power into the, into the hands of a president, he can act like Don Corleone.
He can be a mafia boss.
He's got a protection.
He's got the ultimate protection racket.
If he can control how government behaves with respect to any business or any, any, uh, any sort of operation in the country.
So Sandy, if, if, if the
freedom of expression and speech and, and we talk about the pillars.
of our society and those kinds of things.
You know, I don't know why Bezos, look, these guys have enough money that they shouldn't be so terrified.
But I guess I say they have enough money, but they don't think they have enough money.
Well, and then he's got his baby Amazon, you know his kids his creature the thing he created Amazon is precious to him Not only does it spin off a huge amount of money But I'm sure it is as far as he's concerned a complete extension of who Jeff Bezos is and he doesn't want to jeopardize it and apparently it's far more important than some basic principles of freedom of the press now
You know, the right will say, well, he's not he's doing this voluntarily.
But, you know, the whole notion of the press coutowing to the pressure from the government is is really press repression, you know, and it's the problem of it's not a free press when it has to knuckle under to a government that will turn on it in a way that will be damaging to it if it stands up to it.
You know, Sandy, you know, historically.
the the the media which was separate from our government was able to sometimes bring pressure on the government if the government was wrong.
Right.
I mean,
well, the Washington Post was the sponsor essentially of Watergate.
Richard Nixon wouldn't would have continued to be president if the Washington Post hadn't been around to to uncover Watergate.
Well, you know, Sandy, when you when you look and see
that the president of the United States can determine who, who he has an arena with in the media.
Hey, that's Sandy Williams.
I don't want that guy in here.
He's got to go.
Yeah.
You know, that Earl Ingram, that guy, I don't want him in here.
He's got to go.
I mean, this is what they're doing, Sandy.
Yeah.
What bothers me is that this is a.
This is a drip, drip, drip, but it's much more than a drip, drip, drip of sort of what's going on.
This is a fire hose and it's happening in every direction.
And it is all about giving the president of the United States complete power over everyone and giving him the kind of power that allows him to repress those who would speak out against him.
Well, so
we, the American people,
You know, I always have to come back to that, you know, you know, Tom from LA always talks about, we eat people out of government.
Well, that may have been in theory, but Sandy, it clearly looks like whatever that was in theory is not going to be in practice anymore.
Well, I think the big thing is that all of this
Ultimately hits the ground locally.
Okay.
And so we can say that, you know, this is national politics and what we ought to be focusing on is local politics because all politics is local.
Well, it turns out that everything has traction locally.
We don't experience it until we experience it personally, but we are going to experience a great deal of what's going on.
And we're going to, and these mass firings, this disabling of the government generally, is going to, we're going to experience it in the way we experience the things that government does that impact us.
And it's far more than just our local school districts and our local police.
And we can talk about that after the turn.
But, you know, I think that the problem is that if,
If we decide that we don't have to worry about what's going on nationally, because all that really matters is local, is that we will watch Rome burn.
We'll be playing the violin, but Rome will be burning.
You know, Sandy, Tony says, can't have dissenters if you don't let them talk.
And, you know, he's just kind of, you know.
Yeah, well, you don't have, and you don't have COVID cases if you don't test for COVID.
Same deal, right?
No, I don't hear any dissension.
Well, that's because you've squashed it, you
know.
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And the fact that they're talking about getting 65% of it, the impact that'll have on you and me.
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Sandy wins.
Even though Sandy...
If you listen to the lyrics of that song, and I love that song, and the lyrics are so simplistic, and, you know, Lewis Armstrong and his voice and, you know, stands the test of time.
But those things that he talked about.
Yeah.
He was talking about the environment.
He was talking about the world.
He was early in that game because America had gone through the industrial revolution and to some extent almost prided itself on the industrial pollution that was the mark of prosperity in almost every city in America.
But it was creating a mess.
So let me...
That takes us to the fact that the EPA they want to cut 65% of the environment of environmental protection agencies So before we get into all of it and I want to contrast What the last president was doing compared to what this president is doing
as it relates to environmental protection.
You know, you know, Sandy.
With with Joe Biden, you can say whatever you want to say about him.
But he was starting to move in the direction of addressing.
The ills of the environment.
Well, yeah, here's here's my problem.
I spent a career, I spent a lifetime watching this process of.
the environment and the issues associated with an unregulated world and what it does to the environment and then what happens when you introduce some sensible regulation to try and cure it.
You and I were born long enough ago so that we remember the industrial sewer that was the Milwaukee River.
Milwaukee River used to be lined with industries and one of the reasons they were all along the Milwaukee River was that they could dump their waste.
into the river.
So we had tanneries.
Where now there are apartments, there used to be leather tanneries.
And leather tanneries are very dirty process.
They use chrome to make sure that the high doesn't rot when it becomes leather.
They do all kinds of things that, number one, have terrible odors.
And number two,
have created lots of waste, which are toxic waste, which they would simply dump into the Milwaukee River.
Summer in Milwaukee in 1955 had a terrible odor to it.
You couldn't go down to the area near North Water Street along the river in the summer on a hot day without essentially almost putting a handkerchief over your mouth so you could survive the terrible smell.
And the air also suffered.
We had coal burning power plants surrounding the city.
And in the winter and in the summer, there was grit in the air, smog.
I mean, and California, of course, was famous for its smog.
You couldn't see beyond your nose some days in Los Angeles because of the smog in the air.
And it wasn't until 1972.
Under the actually the Nixon administration and with the Republican Congress that are a mixed Congress that they passed the Clean Water Act and the Clean Air Act and until those two federal laws were passed In which there was there was an agreement that the federal government would try to set up unified standards across the country It was a race to the bottom
States would compete for industry to locate there by telling them that they would be unregulated, that they could operate more freely in this jurisdiction.
And so what happened was the Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act set up standards that would be unified across the country so that Mississippi couldn't lure business from Wisconsin by telling them, not only do we not have unions down here, but don't worry, we won't.
regulate the water that comes out of your plant.
We'll give you a pass on all that.
And so it allowed the race to the bottom to stop.
And in the matter of 10 years, the Milwaukee River, the Wisconsin River, the Fox River, the Cuyahuga River in Cleveland that used to catch on fire, all of these things
we're moving in the direction of becoming much, much cleaner to the point where all of these rivers now are almost capable of supporting swimming, okay?
It's like the Seine River in Paris where, you know, you can use these water bodies have purified to the point where you can fish in them and there are fish.
And you could even consider eating the fish, which, of course, we should all remember that there used to be a time when you were warned that you couldn't eat the fish that you caught in the vicinity of Milwaukee or any of the major cities in the country.
You know, Sandy, the fact that these things are moving in the right direction is what we should focus on.
You know, as you stated, I remember the Milwaukee River and that stench.
and the phone that was on the river.
You go down to the Milwaukee River now, people are frolicking.
They're doing the warm summer days, the boats are down.
It's an intertidal.
People paddle boarding?
Yes.
You know, people are, you know, it's a recreational water body now instead of an industrial sewer.
And we should know that that was because
That was because the EPA was created and the EPA was holding all of the state's feet to the fire.
And that the industry in Wisconsin knew that they were gonna be subject to regulations that were the same sort of regulations as a business in Georgia or Mississippi or Arkansas or wherever.
And so they agreed to it.
And they went in the direction of cleaning the environment up.
Well, look what they did, Sandy.
They built an absolute...
beautiful river walk that is getting ready to be expanded.
And there's commerce up and down that river that you would have never thought ever possible.
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Sandy, the music.
Well, that music, the terms, the words of that song are mercy, mercy, me, oh, the ecology.
That was actually all about the environment and the problems of pollution.
that were so prevalent in the United States, and somehow we have a short memory.
And I think part of the problem is that the government hasn't done a very good job of explaining to us, the people, about all the things that they do for us that have seriously local impacts.
And one of the agencies where the impacts are essentially all local is the Environmental Protection Agency.
And before that agency was existed, our localities were a mess, and they were headed in a terrible direction.
My personal legal career involved one November in 1972 being asked to write a memo about the Clean Water Act and the Clean Air Act, which had just passed.
And I suddenly became the environmental law expert in my law firm because there was no such thing as environmental law until those two
laws passed and the federal government began to say, you know, we're going to establish uniform standards across the country to try and help all these localities clean up.
And, you know, I worked with paper companies and others, all of whom had recognized the problem, but weren't ready to roll up their sleeves and clean up their businesses unless all of their competitors had to do the same thing.
and the federal law offered that opportunity and so I worked with a bunch of Wisconsin's biggest employers, the paper industry, all of whom were
if not enthusiastic, very willing to participate in this cleanup program because it was uniform across the country.
And we were no longer involved in a state by state race to the bottom to try and make laws as relaxed as possible to attract industry in a way which was very negative for the localities.
So let me,
because I spent 34 years in industry,
and worked at a major plant that produced auto frames, the number one frame producer in the world.
Huge, huge plant, A.L.
Smith, Sandy that you're familiar with.
A.L.
Smith, and in many places like it, prior to EPA Sandy, dumped waste where they were.
Something called Brownfields.
Yes, well, you know Sandy it even occurs right now still to this day where they When they when they turn the oil into gasoline what are those things call I can't think of it refiner refineries refineries Sandy refineries in communities, right?
I mean the damage that they cause the oil fields
And once they're done with the oil fields, they leave all of this.
The EPA is there to
clean that stuff up.
Well, interestingly, the United States, the paper industry in the 1970s, where they went to find out how to clean up was to Europe, because Europe was aware of this problem well before the United States and had started regulating it so that the paper industry in Europe was...
far cleaner than the paper industry in the United States.
And there were lessons to be learned across the world as to how to clean up our industry.
So the fact is that the marketplace doesn't.
cure this problem.
It takes government regulation to get industry to get comfortable with the notion that they're going to be expending money, that their competitors will be expending as well, and that they therefore are willing and fully willing to do it.
And the same is true with the protection of workers.
We should understand that child labor laws kept children from working in industry long, long ago.
And until child labor laws restricted that practice,
poor people of America were being exploited children were going to work in factories rather than going to high school because they needed to you know because it was a source of income and paltry income at that and then and then the workers who did work that went to work worked in dangerous places many of them were paid on piecework meaning they'd get paid for each item that they created rather than by the hour and so they were highly incented to work very very fast and that fast work results
in many lost fingers.
If you worked in a punch press factory, you had to push the thing in, pull your hands out, hit the pedal to make this punch come down, put your hands back in, and it's remarkable, but almost everyone who worked in that industry before they put controls on those equipment would put their hands in, hit the pedal, and didn't get their hands out before they lost their fingers.
So Sandy,
you're talking about my life as a young man.
34 years when I walked into this plant and now I get right to you 34 years I walked in the plant and When I walked in the plant at 18 years old a snotty nose kid it was called the butcher shop Because we we actually were the number one Press operation in the world alesmith those punch presses you're talking about forming things
And so when I walked into the plant, most of the guys had lost fingers, arms.
You know, they couldn't hear because there was nothing to deal with safety.
And so OSHA, the EPA in addition to the creation of OSHA in the early 70s, made it possible for a guy like me to spend 34 years in there, Sandy, walk out and still be able to hear.
and still have all of my digits.
Yeah.
Right?
I mean, that's what, that's what OSHA.
That's what the
government did, right?
I mean... Well, yeah.
I mean, the fact was that workers needed protection.
They almost needed protection from themselves, because if you're doing piecework, you want to work as fast as possible on that little control that makes it a little more inconvenient to do your work.
Maybe you want to turn that control off, the one that keeps your hands from being under the punch press when you push the pedal.
And so, you know, the fact is that uniform regulation across the country...
is very important to achieving any sort of effective local regulation because you want everyone across the country to face the same kind of regulation so that it isn't a race to the bottom.
And this is what governments should have done a better job of.
of describing to the people of this country the importance of uniform federal regulation across the country in so many different categories so that we don't have a race to the bottom.
We have a process that protects all of our workers equally across the country and affects our employers equally across the country.
And that's one of the ways that our country's economy has changed a great deal since
1890 when Donald Trump apparently wants to return our economy to the world of tariffs to a world in which there's no government regulation, a world in which states are the only source of regulation.
I can tell you from my personal history that that course of action will be very bad for localities, very bad.
Hey, Al from Milwaukee.
Al, thank you.
You say what, sir?
Good morning.
Good
morning.
First of all, let me say, Sandy, I started working for General Motors in a drop forge when I was 16 while I was still in high school.
I worked third shift and got off work, cleaned up and then went to school.
But I did that till I went into military.
But when you described all of the degradation of the rivers and all of that, and you're talking about
Rivers that you could light fire to you're talking about the city of Flint, Michigan and Saigon law and Pontiac and Cadillac, Michigan because
General
Motors Mobile Factory General Motors Ford Chrysler That's where they were and all discharge out of all those plants went straight into the waterways and the tributaries of those
And we could not fish.
We couldn't swim.
We couldn't get into water at all back in those days.
And here more recently, when the foreign car companies started moving into the United States, in some areas in Alabama and Kentucky, these same things were going on.
When I was in Birmingham, Alabama, I have relatives there.
They've got a Mercedes plant that's almost 30 miles long along the highway, and they don't have big rivers down there.
And people are complaining about the pollution in the water and the wells and all of that.
So this is not something that used to be, it's something that's still going on, it's just moving to different parts of the country.
Yeah, and what you point out is absolutely with the point I was trying to make which is that Pollution has its effect locally, you know, it you know, it's a national problem But it has its impact locally and and so the federal government is the important entity that causes this to get fixed and and reducing the workforce of the EPA by 65% can only
disable that agency from being able to do what it's supposed to do.
And that's really the intent, I think, of these huge manpower cuts, is to disable what the people who dislike government call the administrative state, to make the administrative state incapable of doing what it was created by the people to do.
And it's going to have some terrible consequences.
And my fear is that what we need is the government to start
putting out an annual report that tells us all of the things that it is doing for us so that we lose this current concept which is that the government is simply bloat so that we can get rid of all of it and it won't have any consequence on us personally or locally and good riddance.
So Sandy let me let me ask you because you know I too live during those times and now all of this
We have to explain the government has to explain to the citizens What it does That's only because Republicans came up with this there was none of that ever mentioned in the years and the decades before What we've just started hearing from Republicans about our government
And they're saying, they're talking about it as if this is a new issue.
But first of all, the level of taxation as a percentage of GDP in this country is at a low over a 75 year period.
The federal workforce has not increased in number wise at a material level over the past decades, okay?
So we're not in a circumstance where this government is a creeping cancer.
that has become this problem over time.
The government is now what it has been over the last 50 years.
It's simply been doing its job for 50 years, but rather quietly.
You know, Sandy, here's a guide quickly.
Hundreds of NWSNOAA employees fired as we head into tornado season.
More firings coming today.
People aren't gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna realize that these things
the hurricane season all those things are going to come right
well and and the and that federal employees do not simply sit at desks moving pieces of paper from one corner to the other these people first of all the NOAA and these these are agencies filled with with specialists meteorologists people of high training uh people who are trained to try and uh
bring those agencies into the 21st century with computer science.
And, you know, this is just all a misconception.
I mean, I'm sure that our government can stand every four years in analysis of the efficiency of its operations.
But our government is there for very good reasons, and I can speak to some of them
personally.
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you visit American City you will find it very pretty just two things of which you must beware don't drink the water and don't breathe the air pollution, pollution they got smog and sewage and mud turn on your tap and get hot and cold running crud see the hollywoods and the sturgeons being wiped out
to buy detergents.
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Sandy Wimms, Sandy, your music selection.
Well, that's, you got in Tom Lehrer, who was...
a satirical singer back in the 60s.
And he was singing about something that really mattered back then and matters now as well, which is pollution.
We were talking about how it is that the federal government has all of its traction actually locally.
And one of the main ways, one of the main things that it does with respect to local conditions is regulate the environment.
Let's go to...
Jim from Brookfield.
Hey, good morning, Jim.
Thank you for the call.
You say
what?
Good morning, Earl and Sandy.
Happy Friday.
I say two comments.
One, I just want to follow up on what Sandy just referenced, that there's this false narrative out there that is being painted by Moscow and the Trump administration, that the government employees, the federal government employees, are just a bunch of overpaid, underworked paper pushers.
And when all these cuts are finalized and the ramifications start trickling down, people are going to realize
that they're not going to be able to get the veterans were not able to get their benefits.
Undue time, people may not get social security checks on time.
There's already long lines at national parks.
We're going to lose consumer protection.
But these individuals are not just a bunch of overpaid paper pushers.
They actually do services for us to the American public and protect us from the big businesses like Elon Musk who's running roughshod over us.
Okay, so that's just one quick comment.
But secondly, on Tuesday, Mr. Trump announced he's going to control the press corps, which for over 100 years has been an independently chosen press corps.
that covers the president on Air Force One in the overall office or whatnot.
They're gonna change that.
They're gonna eliminate a lot of the traditional wire services like AP, UPI and whatnot and bring in new streaming outlets.
Okay, I get it that they do need to update things after 100 years and adjust for social media, but you know what they're gonna do is just bring in streaming services that only...
spew their talking points and a favorable to them, you know, Joe Rogan, whoever.
So that's something we really need to be aware of that once the narrative coming out of the press corps from Washington on Air Force One in the overall office or that once that's controlled, we're not going to find out a lot of what's going on in Mr. Trump's Oval Office.
Hey, Jim, thank you very much for the call.
Sandy, you want to respond to any of that?
Well,
absolutely.
Access is very important to the press, okay?
Access to public figures, access to things that are happening, when they're happening, and the control of access has always been a lever that
that politicians have used to the extent they can.
And the White House and the press corps have been careful up until now to make sure that the presidential lever doesn't include excluding from access a general group of press that would reflect a cross-section of the American press corps.
And what's happening now is that the president is saying, I'm going to control access.
absolutely and access will be doled out to those who are kind and sympathetic to the White House and those who are not can get find the door.
And that is the same kind of repression that is involved with telling industry that either
knuckle under, stop, stop belly aching, or I will turn the guns of government on you.
I mean, this is all the same sort of power politics, using levers of power to make sure that that you can repress contrary
views.
So Sandy, 13 minutes ago, Donald Trump to make English official US language.
Sandy, what are we dealing with
here?
I mean, to some extent, this is eye-washed, but this is a response to a Bill Clinton executive order that required that agencies provide multilingual support to the many immigrants who come to this country who need multilingual support.
The White House's answer to that question is, well, they can still do it.
Well, yeah, they can do it.
The question is whether they will do it.
And this is, you know, there was a lot of...
consternation about Ukraine adopting the Ukrainian version of its Cyrillic language rather than allowing Russian to be used in Ukraine as a sign of ultranationalism, okay?
And here we are doing it in the United
States.
So Sandy, so this he just came up with 13 minutes ago.
So he throws this out.
because the price of meat has gone through the roof.
The price of food has gone through the roof.
They talked about it with Biden, but it's certainly even higher than it was with Biden.
He's not addressing any of that, Sandy.
So
he throws this
stuff out.
This is Chinese objects.
This really doesn't make a difference, right?
English has always been the national language, whether it was official or not.
It never has been described as the official language from an official standpoint.
I guess now it is.
Okay, big deal.
But Tom, Dick and Mary, it doesn't do anything for their problems unless what they are buying into is this notion that the cultural war is far more important than what...
what happens at their dinner table.
You know, Sandy, and then if if he throws this kind of stuff out and he controls the media, nobody's asking him about the price of food.
You know,
right?
Because he doesn't want to he doesn't want to be exposed for the 855.
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I'll send you the music.
Well, the music's about the environment, how important it is to us and how much it's a local consequence of a federal effective federal regulation.
effective federal regulation protects us and protects our environment, and we don't want it to turn back into what it was when it was unprotected, which was the case up until about 1972 when the Federal Clean Water Act and the Federal Clean Air Act were passed.
I was just looking at some details about federal employees and a couple of interesting facts.
The number of federal employees hasn't really changed much since 1990.
And it peaked in 1990 at 3.4 million total.
It's not at 3.4 million now.
It's just barely above 3 million before Donald Trump took office.
Number one, number two, the average number of people departing the federal government every year quitting or retiring is in the 177 to 200,000 range.
Okay.
And the number of retirements approaches 100,000 every year.
So.
These so-called buyouts that have supposedly created a bunch of retirements that would otherwise maybe not have happened might not be the case.
It might just be that Elon Musk has paid eight months leave for a whole bunch of people who are already going to retire.
And the number of retirements hasn't yet matched the number that is average for our workforce.
And our workforce, the discussion by the incoming administration is that the federal workforce has bloated far bigger than it's ever been.
That's not the case.
Our population has increased substantially since 1990.
And the federal workforce is actually smaller today than it was in 1990.
You know Sandy, before we go to the phone lines.
the government is responsible for.
And so I looked this up during the break because, like you said, the government doesn't tell the people what it's responsible for.
Bear with me for a couple of minutes.
The government is responsible for governing a community of people making laws and providing services.
Governance.
Making laws, the government creates laws that define how people can interact with each other and with the government.
Implementing laws, the government puts laws into action.
Interpreting laws, the government determines the meaning of laws and applies them to specific cases.
Services, public services, the government provides services like police, fire and mail delivery.
economic services the government manages the economy by setting taxes spending money and redistributing income social services
The government provides social services like welfare benefits and public education, stability, maintaining order.
The government works to keep people safe and productive, protecting rights.
The government protects individual rights to liberty, protecting citizens.
The government protects citizens from outside attack, regulations, regulating access to common goods.
The government regulates access to public land, correcting.
for, uh, externalities.
The government works to address negative externalities.
Representation.
Last one, Sandy, providing a way for people to voice their opinions.
The government provides a way for people to make their needs and opinions known to the public officials.
Man, what is
that?
I mean, come on, man.
Well, you know, the discussion now suggests that somehow it's the number of employees that is what's causing our national deficit to increase, that our annual deficits are the result of too many federal employees, and that our national debt is the result of that.
First of all, we are not growing the number of employees, but the level at which we're experiencing debt is growing materially.
Well, what has changed since 1990?
Well, we've cut our tax revenue materially since 1990.
We had a big tax cut in the early 2000s.
We had another tax cut in 2017.
So we've eroded the revenue we collect materially.
We haven't expanded the number of employees at all.
our population has increased materially.
So I think anybody looking at this would say, you know, we ought to go back and examine our tax structure because we've created deficits by foregoing taxes and we've spent money irresponsibly only because we're spending money without taxing for it.
All right, let's go to Brendan.
Hey, good morning to you, Brendan.
You say what?
Yeah, I just wanted to say that, like I mentioned in my comments, you know, the free press is gone.
We're leaning into an authoritarian governance over us.
It makes me sad.
I try to get up every morning and I know there's so many American, hardworking Americans out there.
who now realize that a class war is on.
This is a class war, billionaires against hardworking Americans.
And, you know, how incredible was it back in the day when Republicans believed in small government staying out of your life, just less giveaways and things like that?
And we thought we were a two party system.
If you look back and you look at what Germany did with Elon Musk when he tried to revive the Nazi party in Germany, just this in the last couple of months, they have a thing called the firewall that they created after Hitler, and they don't have a two-party system.
They have several democratic parties and a couple of very right-needing parties.
But once Elon lost,
With their firewall, they were able to keep the extreme right out of the government, their over and all national government.
And I hope that we come to the day before I go and before I end my chapter on this earth, where I see a firewall built where the American people will believe in just what the government's supposed to be instead of what it's become.
Very well said, Brendan Sandy.
Well, I do fear that that we are all playing our violins while Rome burns because what's ongoing now is an is an extreme change to the American system and it seems to be a willing transfer of power to an individual.
for him to do with it as he chooses, and to break down all the checks and balances, and to give that person power in the nature of a mafia boss able to extort everyone by the expression of that power.
You know, the American president...
has a great deal of power, and if he's allowed to use it unilaterally, he can bring other countries to their knees if he indeed is speaking on behalf of America, but he can also bring corporate America to its knees because corporate America doesn't want to be the subject of an antitrust lawsuit, doesn't want to have its business closed down, doesn't want to have prohibitive tariffs imposed that would make its business more difficult, et cetera.
You
know, Sandy, you can watch, you know,
I mean, you can just see things developing.
I was just reading where, right now, the highest unemployment, you know, people are filing for unemployment higher than any time in the last six months.
All of these things are coming to pass, Sandy.
You mentioned people weren't even thinking recession or any of those things.
But can you imagine a recession hitting at a time that they're gutting government Sandy?
And it could happen, right?
I mean, oh, yeah I mean I do predict that we will have a recession during these early Trump years and that we will have inflation as well and that we that it will smell a lot like stagflation which is a Extremely difficult thing to solve for and meanwhile I also believe that we're watching something that looks an awful lot like the Russian playbook in terms of the oligarchs
the mutual admiration society between an autocrat and those who are supplicants to the autocrat in terms of getting a free pass.
So the large corporations and the wealthy individuals who abide by Donald Trump are going to get a free pass from him.
They're going to get a free pass with respect to...
criminal enforcement, they're going to get a free pass with respect to antitrust enforcement, they're going to get a free pass with respect to regulatory enforcements.
I mean, the power of unilateral power, if it's handed to a president, is very substantial, and it will indeed change the whole nature of our society.
So people who don't know you like I know you, Sandy, you just let the word recession roll off your lips.
You're not a guy who says that.
Right, I mean
you're not a
guy,
but you said it easily this time Yeah, because you know the Sun the moon and the stars are lined up with somebody Pushing a lever who are who is going to affect policy and if those policies are in fact adopted and it looks increasingly likely that they will be those policies are inevitable in terms of their outcome
and so people who may not remember recession Sandy and the pain
that goes along with them and what you taught me long ago were the levers that were available to address coming out of recessions or prevent recessions, where those levers at.
Yeah, we spend them and you can't read you can't reduce taxes Without being inflationary if you have an inflationary stagflation You know that all the tools that could help won't help With respect to stagflation the way we got out of the last stagflation was monstrously high interest rates which increased the pain for this for the near term in order to solve a problem and You know they solve the problem for 50 years, but apparently our memory is short 8
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Hey, good morning to you, Tim.
You say what?
Yeah, thanks for taking my call.
I want to make a prediction here.
I think in the not too distant future here, the way things are going with Trump and Putin, we're going to wake up some day and we're going to be watching the news and Trump's going to come on and he's going to say that.
We've had an announcement to make that We are merging Russia Hey
Tim leave the humor up to Sandy and I but no no man.
It's really a man.
It's really it's really It's well thought out man
I'll tell you, the about face is astounding.
I thought that we ought to re-measure our international affairs and drop the temperature of it so that we could reduce our defense expenditures because we're sort of off the charts and have been for a long time in terms of a disproportionate amount of attention to arming ourselves for what are enemies that maybe are self-created by us and our definition of who's for us and who's against us.
and depolarize the world and maybe repolarize it.
So I'm not all together against a reordering of our international affairs, but the way we're doing it right now is extremely disturbing.
It's creating a disequilibrium that is going to be very hard to rebalance.
And we're turning our backs on people that are our allies.
This could have been done.
differently in a more orderly fashion.
And it could have been done in a manner that doesn't destroy the world order like what is going to happen.
But not by this man being
well, you know, the problem is that if America says that everything with us is a transaction, which comes with a price, then people are going to start finding someone to compete with us so that they can make sure that our price is competitive, right?
And who is there for nations to, to line up against us to compete with us?
But China.
This is playing into China's hands in a very direct way.
And even though we think what we're doing is neutralizing China, we're playing into their hands internationally in a very direct fashion.
All right, let's go to Richard.
Good morning to you, Richard.
Thank you for the call.
You say what?
Hey, thank you for answering here.
I got a question for Sandy about this signed agreement for mineral rights.
Is this a contract that could be sold to a private company or another country?
That's
another good question, man.
Well, the contract is very interesting.
Number one, it's not much of a contract.
Number one, it creates a fund that would receive the profits from the operations.
I think what's contemplated here is that the United States businesses would move into Ukraine and start being the businesses that would be extracting these minerals.
And that therefore the extraction process would involve American businesses and American people and you know We should understand that this idea was initially hatched by Vladimir Zolinsky And I think that Donald Trump has simply walked into Zolinsky's arms with this Zolinsky's notion was let's get let's get at the United States pregnant by getting them very involved in our economy So that therefore they'll be very involved with this our security and and so he's got this agreement now
Now, Vladimir Putin saw this agreement and understood exactly what it was, which was a card being played not by Trump, but by Zelensky.
And so Trump, I mean, Putin immediately said, hey.
United States and Mr. Trump, you can come to Russia and get our minerals too.
And so what he's really saying is that he would honor this agreement that Zelensky has offered us if he takes over Ukraine.
And so we, the United States, don't have to be worried about defending Ukraine in order to defend our mineral right interest in Ukraine, because Vladimir Putin and Russia will honor that agreement as well.
It is, and he is a man.
Who in Donald Trump who just called Zelensky a bunch of horrible dirty names?
And now today he's saying I have a lot of respect for So Sandy I mean
come on
man
Well, this is his style.
You know, he called the head of North Korea a rocket man and had all kinds of nasty nicknames for him until they exchanged bromance love letters.
You know, this is Donald Trump's style is, I guess, to turn his back on you until he turns around and embraces you.
And he thinks then you're going to trust him.
Look, the business world of America learned not to do business with Donald Trump.
All they had to do is do business with him once.
and they got burned.
All you had to be is a law firm that didn't work for him once and didn't get paid.
And, you know, we all watched Donald Trump run around the country trying to find lawyers who would defend him four years ago for this very reason.
This is not a businessman for whom a handshake is a deal.
You know, Sandy, he is, well, what else can you say about him?
He is who he is.
We know who he is and so he can't change he can't change spots, you know It doesn't matter what position you put him in he can only be who he is Because he's the president doesn't mean he somehow changes
who he is, right?
No, and you know and if you've been in business long enough and if you intend to be in business in an honest manner You learn very early that your handshake is your word and your word is is is the most important thing you have to sell in business and Donald Trump never learned that lesson and and the United he's now taking the United States down the same road that he took his businesses which is a path
towards a real problem.
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And I saw the knights in armor come and say in something about a queen that were peasants singing and drummers drumming and the archers with the tree.
Welcome back to the early from show as always you can join us at 855-752-4842 855-752-4842 text us at that same number It's Friday.
That means Friday's with my co-host Sandy.
We're sending I want to go through the phone lines again quickly Cindy.
Thank you for hanging on Cindy.
You say what?
Hello,
yes
Yes, I have two things first of all, I want to say that I definitely am predicting a recession
And I'm going to better you one, Sandy, because if the fellow states put a stop or cut Social Security and Medicare, I think we'll go into a severe depression.
And I also wanted to say that the government employees have become the scapegoats, like the teachers became the scapegoats of Wisconsin.
Cindy, I'll let Sandy respond.
Thank you very much.
Well, there's no question that scapegoating is going on.
what this deflection is all about is finding targets to deflect interest so that what can happen will happen, which is this consolidation of power into the hands of a president, so an imperial president, and then a conduct of government that gets out of the way of anyone that the president wants to give a free reign to.
And that includes the very wealthy.
It includes individuals who
provide him with the support he wants and needs.
You know, Sandy, if you're talking that dreaded our word recession, that we haven't seen in a long time as a young man, I knew the pain of recessions.
You know, when I was working at A.L.
Smith as a young man, I didn't know what they were and things were rolling around.
for me pretty well and money was coming in and I was not saving any.
I was spending it as fast as I was making it.
And I was a young guy and new cars and all those kind of things.
And all of a sudden, somebody said a recession is coming.
And and Sandy, that job that I was working and the money that was coming in every week, all of a sudden stopped.
Yeah.
and I wound up on something called unemployment.
I didn't know what that was.
I'm like 20 years old, 21 years old, never had to deal with it.
And now all of a sudden, so I saw, I've learned to respect recession and what it means and the damage that it does not only to the psyche, but to a family Sandy.
And then willing to.
and to many families and to
communities.
And so last thing before you chime in is at the same time, this is coming.
They're cutting the safety nets that would help people through those harsh times, Sandy.
You know, I don't know if people really understand the pain.
Look, Sandy, the food stamps, those things.
that went to churches and other places, food pantries.
They're cutting all of that, Sandy.
What do they think people are going to do?
Well, that's, you know, apparently Elon Musk's idea is you cut everything and then you find out what was important by how much damage is experienced out there, which is a pretty hard, that's called the School of Hard Knocks.
And people have to hurt in order to learn the lesson.
You know, the problem we have with recession is recessions are all about consumer confidence.
Our economy is premised on consumption.
And so what is measured by economists very regularly is consumer confidence.
Because when we're confident, we spend money.
We buy the car.
We buy the refrigerator.
We buy the durable goods.
We buy the things that promote a strong economy.
When we lack confidence,
We pull in our horns.
We don't spend money.
And that lack of confidence becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy that causes the recession.
And what's happening right now is that...
there is a substantial and material reduction in consumer confidence that has started since this process that Donald Trump has initiated with our government of playing with and essentially trying to demolish the government as we know it.
And it's destroying consumer confidence along with bringing into effect tariffs and other things which are going to be necessarily inflationary.
So we have not only
material reasons for consumers to lose confidence but we also have the intangible reasons that they lose confidence and they are in fact losing confidence and that's what careful economists look at and worry about.
You know Sandy and then where do you turn?
Because this is not just something and so the things I've learned from you over the years, this is not just a recession that's going to impact our nation.
This could lead to global recession.
Absolutely.
Our country is the most important economy.
We learned that lesson when we had our financial crisis in 2007.
We didn't just sneeze, we convulsed, and the rest of the world convulsed as well.
And the expression has always been when the United States sneezes, the rest of the world has a recession.
And so everyone is interlaced with us in a very material way.
And they're trying, actually, the more we flex our muscles in a manner that is...
Painful to them the more they try and disentangle from us and that's what Donald Trump is setting the motion for in motion right now with his tariff policies and his His turning his back on all of the old friends is all of these people are gonna try and find ways to live without the United States and that will include living without the dollar Okay, and as I've said before the dollar as the net as the world reserve currency is fundamental to our well-being
You know, Sandy, I told you about a conversation I had with a pretty prominent person yesterday.
And that person, we talked about AI.
And she's pretty prominent in Washington.
And she was telling me about the upheaval that's going on in government right now in Washington, DC.
She's connected, interconnected to all of that.
And Sandy, she told me that AI
They're looking long term at AI to replace You know government workers.
Well, it's very clear
that artificial intelligence is being employed by the 19-year-old whiz kids who are employed by Doge, who are moving into these agencies with algorithms and with computers that are deploying AI to try and figure out who's expendable and who isn't.
And the problem with artificial intelligence is it's only as good as what it knows and what you put into it.
And so what we're finding out is that AI is rife with potential.
errors in this infant state.
AI is in a state of infancy right now.
And if we turn our government over to AI, we're gonna learn how well AI works through the school of hard knocks, which is we're gonna fire people and then find out we have to try and coax them back into government.
You know, Sandy, Brendan says, hardworking Americans will come together to fight this administration.
We need to heal the divide.
So I also, in my conversation with her yesterday, she was saying to me,
that the people are gonna have to be the ones who are going to fix this.
I said, well, you know, we got 45% of the American people who don't vote.
The other 50% of the American people, I split down the middle.
We don't seem to be positioned as the people to overtake this Sandy.
I mean, if we had some unity,
I could feel comfortable that maybe we could overwrite it, but we like unity as a group of American people, and people have divided us, and they've divided us.
Now you see why they divided us, because it's given them the opportunity to do what they're doing.
Well, apparently, I mean, this is maybe more preconceived than I've ever given people credit for being, but there's no doubt that when I read Project 2025.
I didn't really have the conception at the time when I read it six months ago that there really was this army of people prepared to, and a small army, it's not an army, it's a cadre, it's Russell Vought and a small number of people who understand government, Vought being the head of the office of budget, and therefore he understands all the levers of government, and he is I think in many respects the captain of this whole process, and then to turn Elon Musk
which is like taking a gaffling gun and chasing rats.
You know, it's doing a lot of damage.
A gaffling gun chasing rats.
I had to write that one down Sunday.
But, you know, it's just so frightening, right?
I mean, it's so frightening because there are Americans, people who...
are looking for someone to come and save them.
Right?
I mean, they're looking for somebody to bring the prices of food down, Sandy.
But there's none of that forthcoming.
Well, and you know, I think there's two sectors.
I think there's people who are concerned about that.
And then there is the establishment that's very worried about the national debt and how big our national debt is.
And those people are getting false hopes from this whole doge prospect.
program when, in fact, if you look at the data that I just recited, the number of workers over a 50-year period, the size of our budget, the federal budget over a 50-year period, it isn't the growth of federal workers or the growth of the budget that's the problem.
It's the tax reductions and the loss of revenue and the expenditure problems and the loophole problems associated with the way we administer our government that are the problems.
And so it's the elected officials we need to be paying attention to.
And they're the ones who are busily pointing their finger at the so-called deep state, the workers.
So Sandy, Mark says, recessions are part of a normal business cycle.
And recessions create, they say something horrible too, because, you know, can't
help it, he's a horrible guy.
Recessions
create opportunities for lots of common people.
Oh, really?
Recessions, no, there's no question that recessions are.
that we experience recessions over time and they are a normal part of the cycle.
The question is whether the recession is the result of us shooting our toes off or the recession is just a normal part of the business cycle.
And in this particular circumstance, the kind of recession that we're looking at potentially having is one that's a self-inflicted wound that might be very difficult for us to resolve.
You know, again, you and I talked about the tools.
long, long time ago.
Some, I think somehow we've forgotten 2007, Sandy.
It seems so long ago and, and how much pain was wrought in 2007.
Well, and that, and the problem is that, uh,
There are various kinds of recessions, and deep recessions, sudden recessions, is the most likely type.
And many of them, like I said at the time in 2007, you don't get hit by the truck that you saw.
You get hit by the truck you didn't see when you step off the curb.
A government's job is to try to moderate the business cycle, to try and bring it within a range that doesn't involve the deep troughs.
Going all the way back to the beginning of the industrial revolution, we have had either we've had recessions and we've had very deep troughs.
We had the depression of the 30s.
We had the depression in the 1890s.
We had a near depression in 2007.
And so government's job is to try and avoid.
depressions and it's and it's to try to moderate the business cycle in a manner that makes it more tolerable for Tom Dick and Mary because who is it that realizes the pain of a recession but Tom Dick and
Mary?
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Let's go to Gary from Gary.
You're
up.
Gary from Sussex.
Earl, how can you forget?
Does it matter?
Hey, listen.
Okay, go ahead, man.
What's up?
What's up,
man?
My heart was going up for you yesterday.
I heard you on Dom's show yesterday.
Filling in for a half hour or so and you were saying how sad you were and you know what it makes me sad that you're sad because I do like you as a person I don't agree with you, but I'd like you as a person Well, thank
you.
Okay, so what's
up?
The thing is this if you were a Republican and Sandy was a Republican you guys would be actually very happy and excited So if you switched parties
your whole attitude would change.
Excited about what,
man?
The future of our country and trying to pay off the interest on our debt, which is our trillions of dollars, possibly giving rebate checks back to people that could really use that money, maybe five or $6,000.
Yes, the rich are going to get richer.
That's the way things are, but they're going to create jobs for everybody.
for you and me and well, Sandy's retired.
I'm still working, but for you and me, you know, they'll create jobs for our friends.
I think that you need to, if you just embrace what's going on.
Hey,
Gary, so we owe all this debt and they're going to give everybody $5,000 checks.
How was that going to address the debt?
I'm against giving the check.
No, you just said, man.
No, no, no, no, Earl.
I said, they're good.
They're going to do that.
I'm against it.
But I think Donald Trump wants people to love him and by paying them money, they're going to get, they're going to be happy.
They should be responsible and pay off the interest on our debt.
Pay that off.
Because that's ridiculous.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's
let, let me, let's say, let me let Sandy respond.
Hang on.
Sandy.
Well, you know, the prognosis for the budget that's being passed by the Republicans in the house and the Senate.
are continued trillion-dollar deficits.
So they're not paying off debt even with the level of cost reductions that they're trying to describe they're having.
The so-called transparent wall of evidence that's being put up by Elon Musk with respect to savings demonstrate actually very small savings as compared to anything that would be required to both reduce the annual deficits or to get a surplus such that they would reduce the national debt over time.
And so that's a pipe dream, unless they work on increasing taxes and increasing revenues.
Number one, number two, I was a Republican for a long time in my life as a youth, and I'd been a nonpartisan for an awfully long time.
And what makes me unhappy about today is somewhat the policies, but much more the process, the loss.
of our balances of power.
The creation of an imperial presidency is not something that should make any Republican happy.
Republicans, in fact, used to stand for the processes of keeping government small and making government not too powerful.
And what we're in the process of doing is creating the very most powerful kind of federal government you can imagine, which is the one that's capable of not just regulation, but repression.
So Tony says that's not the way things are that is the fundamental problem the rich getting richer You know So let me Gary only spun quickly to what Sandy just said
Yeah, well, let me just say George Clooney the guy who was probably one of the top guys to get Biden not to run Said that I hope that Donald Trump does well because if he does well, it's gonna be good for America
So when the Democrats start to change and start embracing what's going on and instead of calling them a Nazi and a dictator, don't you think that together we're going to make
what's going on is not what's going on is not good,
Gary.
Gary, you're ideologically a Republican.
Do you think it's a good idea for the president to have such unilateral powers that he can threaten to wield, for instance, the anti-trust laws against corporations that disagree with him?
Do you think it's good that he has the power with respect to U.S.
attorney's offices to call off the police in order to get people to agree with his policies and to sick the police on the people who don't?
Is that...?
Is that a government that you're interested in having?
He wants to change our government.
And I think that he has a little bit of animosity towards certain people.
And I would not want to be the person that broke into his house and went through his wife's dresser and her underwear.
Those people, he's going to get after him.
Yes, he has.
He's getting after people and he's using it as, like he says, he's the king.
Yeah, but
you totally... Well,
he's not the king.
And if you wanted a king, you should move to a country that has decided that a monarchy is what they're interested
in.
I
don't... But I mean...
That's
the problem
I have.
It isn't the policies of making our government more efficient.
It isn't the policies of trying to pay down our national debt to the extent that we can.
It's the consolidation of power in an individual who, when it's exercised by somebody against you, has no recourse.
There is no recourse if the police are under the control of the president
of the United States.
Hey, Gary, thank you for the call.
Sandy, you heard him.
He's the king.
He's the king long live the king.
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