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Trump: Russia vs Ukraine Revisited & Canada’s’ Tariffs (Hour 2)
The Earl Ingram Show · Fri Feb 21, 2025
When the president talks to God, all the conversations brief for long Does he ask to rape our women's rights and send poor farm kids off to die?
Does God suggest an oil hack when the president talks to God?
When the president
Talks to God are the consonants all hard or soft is he resolute all down the line Is every issue black or white does what God say ever changes mind when the president talks to God
When the president welcome back
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I think we currently have a president where there are people out there who actually
talk as if they think our president does talk to God or that he's here because of God.
We're in a strange time.
We are in a truly strange time and things day to day that are ongoing are strange.
All right, let's go to Mike from Kenosha.
Good morning to you, Mike.
Thank you for the call, man.
You say what?
Good morning, guys.
Happy Friday.
Thanks for taking my call as always.
You know, first of all,
regarding the Ukraine issue, we need to kind of roll back the calendar a little bit in and give a shout out to the Ukrainian people that after decades of the corruption, they didn't want anymore.
And so they removed was a Yanukovych, something like that.
I forget the guy's
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the Ukrainian people.
stood up and they took their country back, right?
So then all of a sudden now, because we all know about the Donald Trump relationship with the Russians, we know how vital the oligarch's income in their pocketbooks was to Donald Trump's.
They were intertwined financially for sure.
It just, like you were saying a moment ago, Sandy, it's one of these things where you scratch your head, you wonder what in the world are people looking at that they can support a tyrant and somebody who, you know, like Putin.
You know, co-equal branches of government, you know, when we look at our U.S.
Constitution, we often, I think, neglect it.
We don't give it the respect it deserves, rightly so.
It's a brilliant, hard fought guide to people power.
What is more, I don't know, pacifying, what is more culturally acceptable than people determining their own path forward in the Republic?
And what we're seeing is this tyrant Donald Trump
you know, hiring minions and then, you know, dismantling, attempting to dismantle all the hard work and all the gains gained over the last 250 years.
It's really something to see.
But let me just remind people that Donald Trump's mentor, and he talks about this on a regular basis, was Roy Cohen.
And all you need to know to look into Donald Trump's mind is get a little history on Roy Collin.
And that'll probably change your attitude real quick.
But I'm a firm believer in co-equal branch of the government.
I'm a firm believer in people power.
I know what we're capable of.
We've seen it before.
But when we have a well-organized, well-funded, dark-money machine,
that allows the Jesse Walters, the Sean Hannity, the Tucker Carlson's, to get inside people like Gary's head and manipulate the information.
I mean, the big lie, the Russian influence, all these things that have jumbled up the American's brain, our minds, it's worked.
So going forward,
We're going to have a very active populist.
And the challenge I think we have today to finish the call is America and all the people out there, when you see people like Earl, when you see groups like the truth chamber trying to do public work, doing your work, support them.
Now's not the time to be sitting on the couch.
Now's the time to get up.
and get going.
Hey, Mike, thank you very much for the comment.
Really appreciate it.
Let's go to CJ.
Let's go to CJ.
CJ, you're up.
Well, thank you for taking my call, Earl and Sandy.
You know, as you folks are worried about what's going to happen and don't care about what did happen, I'd like to talk about some of the successes already.
What are the what are the border numbers already?
They're down under 300 yesterday So as you guys claim that this guy is you know gonna he's a dictator Ukraine it's now considering security of the United States NATO is now going to pay more
Because they agree.
Well, wait, let me let me
this.
more.
The NATO the NATO countries are agreeing that they need to pay more.
Amen.
because I know but I mean I mean they don't they don't pay money into they don't pay money into a pot they pay money to their own defense contractors and to their own military that's what you're talking about right it's it's not a it's not a do payment a dues payment in Donato
they weren't paying their fair share and they're agreeing to pay more the United States has made a ton
you go
well and
haven't had CJ on for a while and there's a reason and he comes back and he changes the subject.
The subject and what we've been talking about is not that CJ.
We're talking about a man who is the president of the United States, who is doing and saying some things to call the president of Ukraine, you know, a dictator.
And to say the things that he's saying and doing I don't want to go back talking about the border We're talking about the things that he is doing right now That's impacting the American people and endangering this globe
Well, and let me say that the prior caller who called in was talking about Ukraine Ukraine's a very fraught country with very complex politics But we should remember that Paul Manafort
the man who ran Trump's election campaign in 2016, his major client was Mr. Yanukovych, the Russian-leaning president of Ukraine, who was the subject of the so-called coup, the Maidan Revolution that occurred in 2014, which itself was a fraught event.
But for a long time now, President Trump has been...
and his advisors have been people who have come from the Russian leaning side of politics in Ukraine.
And Ukraine has divided...
They have people who are Ukrainian nationalists who want to move away from Russia.
And there were people like Mr. Yanukovych who wanted to be tight with Russia.
And I wish you'd just understand that Donald Trump and the people who have supported him have long come from that side of the ledger, okay?
But we should all understand that Ukraine itself is a very complicated place that was pouring money into Washington on both sides of this.
as you misrepresent, you misrepresent what the president says your party does.
Okay, they claim that Trump wanted out of NATO.
No, he didn't.
He wanted countries to pay their.
We haven't even talked about that.
And we haven't talked about whether he wants out of NATO or not.
There are people in the news media who are suggesting that J.D.
Vance and others are of a view that we ought to back out of NATO.
But Donald Trump's conduct that we're talking about is the conduct vis-a-vis his direct dealings today, yesterday, the day before yesterday with Ukraine.
Yeah, and making threats to another nation.
You know before the world That that's not anything that I recall Sandy any president in my lifetime doing what why should we allow?
Any president to act in that manner the world is watching.
All right CJ, thank you very much for the call Let's go to Susan from Kenosha.
Good morning to you Susan you say what?
Good morning, and I love the discussion this morning again.
You guys are absolutely right about Solinsky, about Ukraine.
I always wondered why Putin wanted Ukraine so badly that he would throw so many people against the wall and kill as many people of his country in order to obtain that property.
Now we know it's the minerals for the lithium batteries.
of the future.
And so you have to look and there's always a reason that someone goes after someone else.
But as far as us being in NATO, yes, the NATO countries are watching this and actually every country in the world.
And yes, Trump wants to get out of NATO.
He said that before and no doubt he will and he will support
Putin and his dictatorship, and he wants to bring that dictatorship functional over to the United States.
And those people who actually take in all this propaganda are the people who will actually push us into that dictatorship.
But one thing I have to say, the German Defense Minister, Boris Petrovis, I can't think of his pronunciation incorrectly,
called Vance Anoxi.
And I thought that was so hysterical, I started laughing.
And Susan, this is how they view us.
Thank you.
Thank you very much for the call.
No, no, no problem.
No problem.
We're up against the time.
But thank you very much for the call as always.
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Let's go to Phil.
Good morning to you, Phil.
You say what?
Good morning, Earl.
Can you hear me
okay?
Yes, sir.
Bill.
I'd like to address this good CJ.
He's way too young to remember the Cuban missile crisis.
He's way too young to understand what we had to do to
build an alliance of allies in Europe.
So we, the free world had a shot.
Now, Trump, who is so endeared and likes to take a need of Putin, is giving Putin everything he wants.
Putin needed a useful idiot.
He found one.
And CJ, if you have lived a little longer, you might understand at least half-
Well,
you know, Bill, thank you.
CJ's old enough to remember that.
He just doesn't care.
Hey, hey, Sandy.
So the Republicans and Donald Trump are saying, why don't we give a doge dividend?
So so help people understand what a doge dividend is.
Well, I mean what they're talking about doing is some free money Well, they're talking about taking money that they're supposedly saving and Sending out five to eight thousand dollars on average per taxpayer To reward them or essentially to and sent them to believe that this whole doge thing is a good idea now States have sent back money to their taxpayers, but they do that when they have a surplus.
Okay, and most states
have a requirement that they have a balanced budget.
So when they have a surplus, they have to figure out what to do with the body.
And usually the politicians decide the best thing to do is to send it back to the taxpayers in some fashion.
But here we have a situation in which we have ongoing deficits.
And in fact, the budgets that are being passed in the House and Senate by Republicans, both of those budgets include
very substantial deficits, okay?
Because the tax reductions that they're talking about exceed any savings that are coming out of the Doge program by factors of two or three.
And so what they're talking about doing is sending money back to the taxpayers to increase the size of what the deficit would otherwise be.
And they're doing it for purely political purposes.
It's like, this is worse than a chicken in every pot.
This is buying people sympathy.
You know, Sandy, when
when Joe Biden and and this government sent out the checks during COVID.
And they were and they were and he was disparaged from sending those dollars out at a time, Sandy, that our nation was in dire straits in the American people.
Many of them.
That were in dire straits and they needed those resources to keep the government going That's not the case and they made mockery of that.
Well, you can remember that before that President Trump sent out checks that were signed by President Trump.
He did it on purpose to make sure that
all that everybody who received that thought it was coming out of what Donald's pocket.
It was an act of large yes, but this is so disingenuous.
The notion that we would take money that's supposedly saved, what we're doing is saving money we don't have, okay, and we're sending it out to increase the size of the deficit.
If a family did this,
uh, you know, the they would be, uh, their, their financial consultant would, would mock them as, as being, uh, uh, totally financially unsound.
You know, Sandy, people will, especially people, Sandy, who, who are struggling economically, he's, they're playing on that.
Um, as people are, some of them at their lowest, they will, they will certainly welcome.
Getting oh, you know wouldn't I know
I mean, it's like it's like Jay Jay beer has been for Tipton the guy the millionaire on my TV show that used to give out a million dollars to who wouldn't take it but you know This is just So cynical and it's designed to lure people into thinking that the doges is
pulling off miracles.
The fact is that NPR did a very deep dive into what Doge has supposedly saved so far because they haven't been yet transparent, although the data they put out suggests that whereas they're claiming they've saved like 85 billion dollars, the number is much closer to 1 to 2 billion and even that is somewhat suspect.
Half of the 85 billion was a misprint, okay, that they adopted a savings where the expenditure level was
uh I believe uh 75 million okay not billion and they cut it in half and they took it they took credit for the 36 billion when in fact the number was 36 million and whereas they corrected it on one that one website they have not corrected it on their on their press releases where they're talking about gross savings and when you end up
deep diving into whether the money was actually saved because it was actually going to be spent or was spent or wasn't spent.
You find out that the number is much closer to one to two billion.
You know, you know, Sandy, um, the whole purpose and reason for them to try to reel in government was to, you know, cut the pain that the form, that the, the generations that come after us, that they won't have to deal with all of this debt.
But that's not what a decision to give this money back will render, is it?
No, I mean, when you look at intergenerational equity, intergenerational interest, our interest or the interest of our great grandchildren, you know, sending money back today is to benefit us, our generation.
not sending that money back and reducing the debt is a benefit to our grandchildren who are going to bear the onus of the debt that we leave behind.
So, you know, you're absolutely right.
If we were going to be responsible in caring about our grandchildren, we would definitely not send that money back today.
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Well, you know, the state of Wisconsin has on Wisconsin as its theme song and the state of Canada has that, oh Canada.
You know, actually the whole concept of Canada becoming the 51st state, you know,
Donald Trump thought about it, it would become probably the 51st through 60th state.
There'd probably be 18 new senators to welcome to the fold.
And, uh, and who knows what their, what their politics might be.
I mean, you know,
you know, Sandy, the fact that this man has picked a fight for Canada.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just, it's just nonsensical.
What he's talking about is a trade deficit.
Okay, we buy $100 billion worth.
of things more from Canada than they buy from us.
But of course, we're a much bigger country than Canada in terms of our population, in terms of the size of our market.
And there's no economist would agree that a trade deficit is in any way comparable to a subsidy, okay, or the payment of money to a country.
But that's the way Donald Trump talks about it.
And that might be the way he thinks about
it.
You know, Sandy, in my lifetime,
I don't ever remember us having a disagreement with Canada.
We can definitely have disagreements about tariff policies and about trade policies, and I'm sure we've had discussions and negotiations regarding it, but I've never heard of us
demeaning the place or describing it as something that ought to become our 51st state.
This is an imperial president who thinks about an empire.
He's thinking about Greenland.
He's thinking about Canada.
He's thinking about the Panama Canal.
And now he wants the treasure of Ukraine.
to be ours
and you know and not and not for the nation but for himself uh let's go to jack good morning to jack thank you very much for the call you say what
good morning why don't we end on the national debt and the cuts business that you guys were talking about i
go ahead
part of it but i you know okay number one on the national debt the people who brought us to where we're at today the president's recently or jarred w bush and donald trump
For Donald Trump, it was the tax good breaks for the wealthy, primarily 85% of it went to people making more than half a million dollars.
That added 4.3 trillion dollars to the national debt.
Well, that was supposed to go away in 2025.
And so the Trump Republican budget says, no, we're going to keep that tax break in and we're going to give them another.
So you're looking at a 4.3.
increase in the national debt because he's not removing the tax breaks that he gave, and then he wants to add another $2 trillion on top of that in terms of breaks, mainly going to wealthy people.
So, you know, in this business of he's going to give money back, no, he's missing the point.
If you want to lower the national debt, okay, you could give something back if it were there to give, but you also might have to raise or...
at least follow the rules from the last tax break and increase the debt, the tax primarily on the wealthy people.
So I think we're just in a terrible situation overall, but we need to stay with this.
We need to watch this budget very carefully that Trump is putting out and stay on top of it.
Thanks for your
comment.
Hey, Jack, thank you very much for.
uh you know those thoughts and do you want to respond to jack
well he's actually right and you look at ran paul a senator who i definitely don't agree with on many things but he's at least a financial realist who understands that putting a tax break
forward at a time when you're trying to reduce deficits doesn't make sense.
And this concept of trickle down that the tax break will itself pay for itself through an expansion of the economy hasn't worked in the past didn't work for the prior Trump tax break isn't going to work for the tax breaks going forward.
What we need to do is get closer to a balanced budget which includes focusing on the revenue side.
Let's go to Tom for my leg.
Good morning to Tom.
You say what.
Tom.
Tom.
All right, let's go to Chuck.
Good morning to you, Chuck.
You say what?
Good morning.
Part of my family's Canadian.
Donald Trump, you had a caller who said, was listing his, quote, successes.
We have successfully alienated our best ally.
And we export to Canada.
the most goods and services of any country on the planet.
Between Canada and Mexico, that is 33% of our exports, one third.
They are boycotting us.
Exports will tank.
The economy will tank.
The world despises us.
I have a sister that lives in France.
The French are ready to put troops in Greenland.
All's Greenland and Denmark has to do is say the word.
We are becoming despised.
Musk, Canada, is ready to put 100% tariff on Tesla.
The world sales of Tesla is tanking.
Yet, this man gives himself a $400 million
defense contract for military vehicles, wherein the heck is Tesla's experience in military vehicles, speaking of doge, which is a ridiculous situation.
Unconstitution is all billy heck.
And those contracts that he has worth 15 billion, he's
He's gutting agencies that give oversight or have direct investigations of him and his businesses on those contracts.
Can you say fraud?
This is the most corrupt, anti-democratic
Administration in our nation's history and every American should be shamed I get the feedback from the world and the world is saying Shame on America,
you know, you know Chuck walking on your your your your Your your emotion in your voice Says it all Sandy.
He's it is the perception
Well, one of the things I wanted to talk about in this show, I don't think we have a lot of time left, is how tariffs work and what this tariff program that's being talked about by the president is going to do to our economy.
But if you understand it, you would understand that tariffs are a very backward process.
And by erecting tariff walls, first of all, ultimately, if tariffs are truly successful, you end up
not importing goods, but you also don't export many goods either because all of the rest of the world has erected tariffs and put walls around their economy to the extent they can and to the extent possible, so that international trade has diminished a great deal.
When international trade has diminished a great deal, the prices of everything across the world go up.
So you end up with a world inflationary period as the world adjusts to the new world of more expensive goods being made in the most expensive way locally.
And then you end up as well.
with the growth of each business being restricted to the growth of the marketplace in which they operate.
So, you know, the United States corporation, the ones that have been successful, a great deal of their corporate growth has been premised on sales abroad.
Those are the growing markets.
The American economic market is very mature.
Yes, it's the biggest market in the world, but it's not growing at a rapid pace.
So if you're an American business and if your sales are restricted to the American economy, you will not have a high growth rate in your business.
You will have the growth rate that is the growth rate of the American economy, which is not anything like the growth that's being experienced by successful corporations as they participate in world trade.
So this is all
a process of shooting off our toes, not one at a time, but shooting our feet off as we proceed down the line of shutting down international trade and trying to create a world that looks more like 1950.
Well,
you know, Sandy, Trump is not that ignorant.
He knows the outcomes.
I don't think he does.
I think he thinks he talks about tariffs being the most beautiful word in the world.
He talks about tariffs as if they magically create revenue when the revenue from tariffs is paid by the American people.
It's just a very regressive tax.
And it's also a very, it's a process that increases profits of American businesses in the near term, but not in the long
term.
So Sandy, Marxist Trump is brilliant enough to realize that other
countries are our competitors not our friends.
well
Alright let's go to Tom from LA.
Tom go ahead
sir.
I don't want to hear from Republicans talking to me about balanced budgets and everything.
There's only one person that has balanced the budget in my lifetime, one president.
And that was William Jefferson Clinton.
So don't give me this guff about you guys think you're the ones that save us money when you lie us into war and you give tax cuts to the billionaire class.
I would like to make a recommendation to the audience this weekend.
Go to Netflix, it's cold there.
Go to Netflix and go to Turning Point.
The bomb and the cold war.
Turning Point, the bomb and the cold war.
Such a great documentary, nine episodes and I strongly recommend it.
And Sandy, I really do think that CJ thinks that NATO is something to do with paying dues like homeowner dues or golf tees.
I don't think they understand it.
So maybe we could take some time.
So, you know, people that have not been educated and have been thrown propaganda.
Well, Donald Trump might think that it's like paying dues.
I don't know.
But could you explain that to the audience, please?
Because I think it's really important with NATO.
Have a great weekend.
All right.
Thank you, Tom.
Well with respect to NATO you know what happened was that the NATO members all agreed some while ago that they would try to shoot for paying at least or spending at least two percent of their GDP on defense and the United States was has been spending four three four five percent of its
GDP on defense, depending on the time period and the growth rate of its GDP.
And the fact is that NATO has, the NATO countries have moved in the direction of doing that.
But this is all money that's expended within their countries, within their budgets, toward their, their own participation in, in defense.
And we should understand that NATO was originated at the behest of the United States.
And one of the reasons for it was that we wanted to make sure that the European countries one didn't develop armies independently that
would fight against one another because that had been the source of the major conflicts during the 20th century.
And two, they were a great client for the United States military industrial complex.
We were selling them their armaments, and we were putting our troops abroad all across Europe in a manner that was facilitating our own defense.
Um, yeah, it's not exactly the way the people have portrayed it.
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You know Sandy, the guy earlier, Jack, who said he had family in Canada and he had...
And and and family in Italy or France yeah, and you felt the emotion He's he's outraged As
many of us should be well Donald Trump seems to be fixated on natural resources So you know Canada obviously is a place that has a great deal of oil.
It has it has rare earth minerals It's it's a country filled with natural resources Greenland
Greenland has no people to speak of, but it obviously is a place with great natural resources.
This was the stuff that drove empires to be created in the 19th century.
You know, Queen Victoria was running around the world trying to find natural resources to take over, and here we are doing it again, I guess.
But, you know, this is the 20th, 21st century, and the world of empire building, I thought, was in the rearview mirror, and it's kind of alarming to see us
take this on again.
I mean, you can accomplish access to other people's minerals through alliances, through business transactions, but taking countries over was something that we accused other people of.
It's something that we accused China of.
It's, you know, it's, we're worried about China and Taiwan, a situation in which Taiwan is, we've conceded part of China, and yet we're, we now take great umbrage at the notion that they might try to exert control over it.
And here we are talking about doing the very same thing.
You know what I'm
saying?
This whole idea.
Donald Trump is the great deal maker.
There's a deal around every corner We don't need the president of the United States to be making deals But but there are people who defend all he's just a great deal maker.
That's not the way this is supposed to work
Well, I think if I think if the rest of the world believes that that the United States support and the the largest of the United States comes with a great cost We'll find that they won't be interested.
Okay And if and if it comes with a big stick then then all the other nations of the world are gonna have to find someone who can help them defend themselves against the guy with a big stick and There are a couple of countries out there who are willing and able to do that one of them is named China
so and
Yeah, so saying that I wanted to get this in.
We talked about this a little bit, didn't get a chance.
But the we the United States has been looked at as a defender of other nations of the earth all of this time.
And here one guy steps in.
And now the rest of the world is afraid of the United States.
That's that's that's happened
No, it happened in 24 hours.
Oh, yeah, Donald Trump last this this last week we went from one policy with respect to Ukraine to accusing Zelensky of being a dictator to suggesting that Ukraine started the war with Russia and to basically
try to muscle Ukraine into giving us 50% of their mineral resources as a price for essentially our friendship, as a price for not insulting their president, as a price for not essentially yielding them to Russia.
And
to pay us back.
Let's go to Cindy quickly from Appleton.
Go
ahead, Cindy.
I just want to say, I don't think that Trump is a deal maker.
He's a deal breaker.
Look at all the deals he's breaking.
That's been in process for, you know, decades here.
So he's not a deal maker.
All right.
Thank you very much.
Brendan, go ahead.
Yeah, listen, I wanted to say real quick before we're all off for the weekend, we're talking about Ukraine and everything going on in Ukraine.
It hit the news yesterday.
I got.
in short time here.
They hit the news yesterday that Hagstaff is about to start firing generals and cutting the defense spending.
The defense spending is cutting is just a ruse while they fire generals that wouldn't go to Greenland or Finland and try to take these places over.
So here we go.
Once he starts to affect the military, we got a huge problem and America better start getting to the streets.
and start protesting and start letting this idiot know we're not going to stand for it.
Hey
Brendan,
thank you
very much for the call.
Sandy, he is talking about firing generals.
Oh, yeah.
And he's going to do it for sure.
I mean, it was something that they talked about, something Heg said that they essentially ran for his office on when he was talking to Trump about becoming what he has become.
Yeah.
And the fact is that much of this doge process ends up looking a great deal like a protection racket, which is, look, you people in these agencies either lying up behind us,
or we're going to put you in front of a firing squad.
All
right, Sandy, great stuff.
See you again on Tuesday.
Have a great weekend.
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