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Why Bobby? Why Trump? Things getting out of hand quickly! (Hour 1)
The Earl Ingram Show · Fri Feb 21, 2025
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Yeah.
Well, by now, you know who that voice is.
That's my co-host, Sandy Williams.
Hey, good morning to you, Sandy.
How you doing, man?
Yeah.
Let me.
And.
Let me ask you, you've been retired for a while.
Does
Friday.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
Well, you know when you have When you have you know family and you have things that you do and activities I mean if you retire just to sit at home on the couch Not good not not good not good, but if you stay active and moving like I know you do
And so, uh, what, what retirement has allowed me to do is simply to engage what I want to do and to do that, to focus my, my guns and effort on things that I would like to accomplish.
Uh, and so, you know, I think that, uh, I think that many people look at Jimmy Carter.
I mean, retirement was hardly a retirement for him.
Yeah.
You know, Sandy, we got a lot to talk about today as always.
want to begin with the shocking news of the books yesterday.
Yeah.
Man, when I heard that,
Sandy, he's he's the third guy.
Yeah.
scoring, rebounding, and if you took away anybody else's third guy, it would be devastating, so it's gonna have a profound effect.
Well, I felt particularly badly because I think Doc Rivers did the right thing yesterday to have a press conference to discuss.
who Bobby Portis is and how this happened and ask the fans to understand, look, this is not because this person is a drug abuser.
This is because this person mistakenly took a drug called Tamarol when it should have been Tedorol.
You know, I probably get him confused because I'm not conversant.
But one of them is a is a opioid containing.
drug to be taken for healing from uh and the other and they're both used for the same purpose it's just that and an aide thought he was giving him the right drug uh and gave him the wrong drug and apparently this story has been checked out it's what happened but the but the nba rule is apparently indelible and unbendable and if you get if you get uh if the test is positive you get suspended
well you know you uh you can't blame the nba
that their rules are what they are for a reason.
And so they can't do something special for Bobby Portis, right?
I mean, that's what it is.
But the truth of the matter is, Sandy, now we'll see.
People have been questioning whether or not Doc Rivers can coach.
I've heard a lot of people say he can't coach, he can't coach.
I think Doc Rivers is a much better coach than they've given him credit for.
Sandy he's been putting together pieces and and and I think after watching the game last night He's got some better tools to work with people people were looking for some major big trade During and we were you and I and others we were looking for some you know off-the-chart trade during the deadline, but
Clearly they didn't have the pieces or any of those things, but they've kind of remade the team Sandy
Well, you know, they took a flyer on this Kevin Porter who apparently was having trouble not so much with his talent but with keeping himself harnessed and focused to use his talent He was a high draft choice.
He had there were high expectations for him and he's I think this were his fourth team and four years or something but the guy you know if in fact
You know, he makes good.
He's a super talent, you know, and so they've maybe done some things that could be big improvements They've got some younger athletic people like you've been talking about they need,
you know, I'm like, you know this you know, there's always Some naysay or mark who says if we believe that Bobby porters Did this unknowingly there is no hope I mean Bobby porters is not a guy
his character Sandy is And the things that he does in the community kind of person he is there's no question who Bobby Portas is and For someone to question, you know who he is and whether it's not his character.
It's just ridiculous, right?
Well, you know Sandy because The amount of money that these owners and organizations invest in their players
That they know who their players are Right, they do the research.
They're not they don't have druggies hanging around playing.
I
focused on character as being an important ingredient because they understand that in a league with a bunch of young people who are earning tons of money, that people can go the wrong direction and it can cost you and your locker room a great deal.
So I think that, you know, I'm...
I lean in the direction of both believing and trusting the words of the folks that are talking about exactly what
happened.
Oh, absolutely.
And the people who are around these people who know their character, you know, and, you know, I've seen Bobby Porter.
See, you know, he's got great character.
He's a great character guy.
You know, he's not, he wasn't, he's not Middleton.
but he's pretty close to it when you talk about what he does in the community and he's a community guy.
But anyway, I'll tell you, Sandy, they look good last night.
The trade that people really were upset about when they brought in, what's the guy's name?
Yeah,
That's gonna turn out to have been a really good trade.
He's athletic.
He can score in more ways than than Middleton could You know, he's he's up and down the court Sandy He's he's big and strong and fast and he can run with Yanis They're going to be much better and he's shooting threes from the other three-point line, too.
Oh, yeah Yeah, I mean that clearly they're going to be better the question Sandy is
The moves they made pale in comparison to the moves Cleveland made and Cleveland was already a Team that keeps piling on they're like the Celtics last year They know that they're a breath away from becoming a championship team so they're going all in Bucks.
I don't see the Bucks winning a NBA championship Sandy, but the Bucks are entertaining and to me that's kind of what you want, right?
Yeah.
Well, you know, we can, you can hope it's, it's interesting.
Some teams come out of, come out of nowhere, come out of left field at least in the, in the playoffs.
You know, you can win four out of seven.
Right.
It's a little harder to do that.
But by Toronto, there have been some teams in the past who've come out of left field and went a long way.
Yeah.
Listen,
the books, you and I follow the books, right?
Yeah, the books are better now that you remember a year or two ago.
They were the oldest team in the league.
We didn't think there was any with no draft choices.
We didn't think there was any way possible that they could get younger.
Sandy, they've gotten younger.
Yeah, so if you were.
Hey, don't come on, man.
Come on, man.
In your dreams.
I don't.
Anyway, Sandy, we've got a lot to cover, a lot to talk about.
Let's say this.
The person who's in the White House, Sandy doesn't represent himself.
All the moves he makes represents the American people.
And so, as I'm watching and reading things and saying the American people, the American people, the American people, he is our president Sandy and he represents us, whether we like it or not, before the world, he represents us, right?
Well, yeah, I mean, you know, we can talk about it after the break, but you know, I think that the problem, I mean,
You can have issues with policy.
You can also have issues with decorum and form.
You can have problems as well with process.
And so, you know, some of the policies that we're talking about are okay as far as I'm concerned, but the way they're being implemented, the form and the process and the lack of deliberation, all of these things are...
potentially extremely troubling and are troubling and I had coffee yesterday with a couple of guys who are peers of mine and basically we were sort of semi-comatose when it came to talking about how different things are today than they've ever been before.
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and your thoughts.
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Well, it's a great choice.
Let me before we go to Ukraine, that was something you and I were going to start the conversation.
I mean, one of the things that's come up this past week is is, you know, I talked earlier about the imperial presidency and the extent to which.
Project 2025 has a concept of shifting the power substantially in the direction of the president and that the president is elected by the people and the people who occupy the offices and the various agencies are simply hired by the government but not elected by the people and that therefore the president as the elected executive ought to have great power.
and even to the extent of getting to the point of being quite imperial.
And our president quoted First Napoleon Bonaparte saying, he who saves his country breaks no law.
And then yesterday, after lifting the congestion pricing process in New York, tweeted, long live the king.
So this is a man who has a view of himself as having imperial powers, and everyone in the administration talks about the extent to which he was elected with this mandate that the people have spoken.
Well, I went back to look at the presidential elections during this century to see what the margin of election has been.
And so, you know, it's interesting.
George Bush II in 2004 was elected with 50.7 percent of the vote, a bare majority.
Barack Obama was elected with first time by 52.9 percent, the second time by 51 percent.
Donald Trump then was elected by 46 percent.
Joe Biden was elected by 51.3% of the people and in this last election Donald Trump was elected by 49.8% of the people.
Donald Trump's the only president in this century who's been elected by less than half of the people, less than a full majority.
In any case though, the extent to which people come into office as president with huge mandates is a falsehood.
It's a very close
close to majority kind of number in any case.
And in Barack Obama's case, all of these people in their first election got a Congress that was also elected with them.
So they had a couple of years of the capacity to...
to pass bills.
But when Barack Obama was president, Mitch McConnell said that it was his job to make sure that Barack Obama got nothing accomplished.
And they began to stonewall him after two years.
So then he began to use executive orders, nowhere near the number of executive orders being used by Donald Trump today.
And the Republicans became unglued.
They talked about how Barack Obama was an unconstitutional president, exercising powers like a monarch.
And, you know, they came apart at the seams when a Democrat did this.
Today, with the Republican, we have a different situation where we've got people on the Republican side saying, look, this man was elected.
He can do anything he wants, essentially, and that's the way he's behaving.
And that's the problem with shifting so much power to a president when presidents get elected with very slim majorities, if they get elected with a majority at all.
You know, Sandy, the fact that...
when this was put together the founding fathers said congressmen and senators did not have you know a limit they could they could remain there as long as the people continued to elect them presidents only got eight years there's a reason that the founding fathers created it in that manner sandy well
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Right that time people were concerned about having imperial presidents.
They they were accusing Franklin Roosevelt of being an imperial president.
He got elected multiple times primarily because he was a wartime president got two of those elections occurred during World War two.
But yeah, there's definitely purpose behind it.
And.
And there's also purpose behind the checks and balances, and there's purpose behind having due process procedures for the implementation of rules, as well as the removal of rules.
And there's also purpose behind the fact that the president doesn't have the power, according to the Supreme Court up till now, to simply impound money that's been authorized to be spent by Congress for programs.
So, you
know.
Well, you know, Sandy, they clearly disagree with that.
And so they're going to push the envelope and make somebody.
I thought the decision was already made, you know, how much power a president had.
But apparently he's, and they're looking to say, well, we've got more power than what you've said we have.
Well, they fully intend, and Project 2025 is all about this, they fully intend to push the edge of the envelope as far as possible with respect to the power of the president, the imperial power of the president.
And that term is being used by those who are in pursuit of this.
You know, they are looking to make the president put him in a position where he runs the government.
But what we're watching is that when you put that much power in one person's hand, he can create something that looks a great deal like a Casa Nostra protection racket in
in terms of the way he threatens people into obtaining the kind of conduct that he personally wants.
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Sandy, after laying that out on the other side, we'll make sure we have a conversation about the threats being made to Ukraine.
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it's about what's going on and you know it sort of speaks for itself most of it some of its tongue and cheek maybe most of it is but you know I have to say what seems to be going on is varying degrees of astonishing whether it's appalling or
or whether it's something that is gratifying as a question of where you're coming from on this, but I think most people are astonished, and that the kind of things we're doing are out of left field to the point where they don't seem to be the subject of much prior deliberation.
They seem to be happening on the fly.
We're going to take Gaza, possess it, develop it into a Riviera that was...
seems like an idea that was hatched moments before the words were spoken.
And now we've got processes ongoing where we're essentially involved in making threats to Ukraine or its leader in lesson until they sign on the dotted line and sign over to us what might amount to trillions of dollars worth of rare earth minerals which they possess.
It's like
You know after the at the end of World War two the Germans who were defeated were forced to pay huge reparations to the victors This looks like we're asking a Ukraine to pay huge reparations to us For having been their allies when at the end of World War two what we did was the Marshall Plan for Europe to rehabilitate it which did involve giving them loans and then them spending the money on in the US to get a bunch of things accomplished but this
Now we have a president who is basically trying to bring the president of Ukraine to heel by denigrating him, insulting him, and saying, look, unless you sign on the dotted line here, I don't know, maybe you'll lose your country.
I mean, it's not about getting a piece now so much as it is getting a piece of Ukraine.
If China were doing this to someplace in the world, we would be jumping up and down, we'd be sending
aircraft carriers to sit offshore.
This is the kind of conduct that is bully boy, the bully boy conduct that we would accuse bad guys of doing.
And now we're one of them.
And in the long run, bully boys get ganged up on by the kids on the playground.
You know, Sandy, you know, maybe maybe you've seen it before, but I don't think I've ever seen.
nation just do a complete 360 and what we just saw with the support for Ukraine during the Biden administration and then a new administration comes in and just totally takes our nation in a 360 degree change.
mean
Why wasn't he speaking up on this issue at the beginning of the Ukraine conflict and saying and saying whatever it is that that ought to be the policy vis-a-vis the you know I was a person at the time if you can take the transcripts go back and look at them I didn't think that we should be encouraging Ukraine at the time to stand up
to Russia and not negotiate with them at the time that they were surrounded by troops because of the fact that I didn't believe that we had enough sufficient real interest in Ukraine to support them all the way through to the end of a war with Russia to a victory.
And it turns out that I was right because here we are bailing out on Ukraine now.
But that's what Donald Trump needs to admit we're doing.
We're bailing out on Ukraine now.
The worst part of it is that we're doing it in a manner that seems to be completely cowtowing to the position of Russia.
If we had performed as we should have, maybe in 2020, we would have helped create a balance of power that would have allowed for an outcome that was not totally biased.
But now we have a situation where we're adopting
All of Russia's talking points were using their disinformation as information.
I mean, I don't know whether Zelensky has a 57% approval rating exactly, but I do know this.
He does not have a 4% approval rating and we've got Elon Musk.
We've got Donald Trump.
We have others repeating those kind of things, which is clearly information that's being fed to them.
Let's go to Gary from Sussex.
Good morning to you, Gary.
You say what?
Well, this thing with Ukraine and Zelensky, the billions of dollars that we've given to them, I think that maybe the United States would like an audit to find out where that money went.
Did it go into Zelensky's personal pockets?
He won't he won't even give us any he won't give us any information where the money is how we spent it So why are you saying
Well, this is what I've been listening to I mean He doesn't have any proof of where all this money is gone and and all Donald Trump is trying to figure out is where is the money just
no,
that's
spent billions of dollars for him.
We gave him billions of dollars.
Don't you think that he owes us something?
Well, no, wait, let's just talk about what the conduct of alliances and what we've done in the past with respect to alliances.
provided this money to him to support him in a war against someone that we were describing at the time as being an enemy of Europe and the Europeans themselves have done the same thing.
Now the extent to which that money was handled correctly is the subject and should necessarily be looked into and should have been being looked into at the time and during the time that it was being expended and there's no question
that there was undoubtedly leakage.
Ukraine is a very corrupt country.
We knew that.
Russia knows that.
But you're trying to justify something that has never been carried out before.
We did not exact from South Korea reparations for the aid that we provided in South Korea.
We have not exacted reparations from any of the countries in the past that we've participated on the side of, okay?
This is completely different than what has ever happened in the past with respect to our conduct.
And how much do you think people who we would ally with are going to want us to be their allies if this is the outcome?
Well, the thing is, all the countries that we've ever given money to are independent countries.
They're not run by a dictator.
Also, so dear.
So
Because he was elected in 2020 and the only election that hasn't happened is the one that was scheduled for 2024.
and you understand that having an election during a period of war is an almost impossible proposition if your country is the scene of the war.
We had elections during World War II, but we did not have warfare ongoing in World War II.
We were not the subject of attacks, assaults, and air raids, sirens, and we could have lines of people voting without putting them in danger.
Do you know, Sandy, if I close my eyes,
and and and listen to Gary.
I'm listening to Donald Trump.
He's quoting the exact same things that Donald Trump said.
He can't back up.
So so why is Zelensky a dictator, Gary?
Unless why is why is Zelensky a dictator?
Because first of all, he doesn't want to join the European Union, doesn't want to join NATO.
because Gary, thank you very much for the call.
It's pretty clear Gary is not, does not know what he's talking about, Sandy.
And he's quoting things that he's heard.
I was against the policy the United States undertook in 2020 with respect to Ukraine.
So am I unhappy completely with the foreign policy switch where we're moving in the direction of figuring out how to deal with Russia and bring them back into the process?
No.
But we should look at facts and at least recognize them.
Who is the dictator as between Vladimir Putin?
No question and Vladimir Zelensky.
Well, I think it's pretty clear Vladimir Putin is a dictator, okay?
He's been elected in falsified campaigns and elections in a in a country that has increasing repression and he's in his 24th year
Well, guess I guess Sandy what I would say before we go back to the phone lines is These are the kind of things that we're up against
Uh, and it's why this is such a dangerous time.
Let's go to Brendan from New Jersey.
Hey, good morning to you, Brendan.
You say what?
Well,
first of all, I mean, Gary and is just the, he's the victim of the propaganda machine, you know, who I listen, I understand Americans being concerned about money being spent, but she, Gary.
What's going on with Elon?
And why do you think he's going through all these systems maybe so he gets all his money for his defense contract?
And by the way, we didn't send the boatload of cash over there.
We sent weapons to their country so that they could fight the Russians and so that they wouldn't be taken over by dictator, okay?
Vladimir Balinsky was a stand-up comedian who got into politics and was voted into office.
He's not quite the person that you would put in that position as a dictator, and he stood up.
And all Trump is doing is going around with his hand out like he always does, because you want something for nothing.
It's not costing him anything.
And who do you think's going to end up with all those minerals?
I don't
know.
You think
it's going to be the American people?
I mean, you think we're going to profit from that?
No, we're not.
No, the oligarchs.
Gary, wake up.
The oligarchs are going to be selling government cheese before you know it.
All right.
So wake up.
Watch another news station.
Turn on the cartoon
network.
Sandy, uh, uh, Brenda kind of echoed a little
Well, yeah, that's what you were saying before we went on the air, but it's absolutely true that when you end up with the right to the minerals, you know, it's people likey.
Exxon and people who are going to mine those minerals and who's going to get the benefit of it.
The US government isn't in the mining business.
This process is so unseemly.
And the notion that we would essentially use a protection racket scheme in order to exact from Ukraine a huge benefit in terms of a financial benefit must be frightening to all of the rest of our allies who are coming to realize that everything comes with a very big price.
And my question for people who are looking at this and thinking about it is,
Whose arms are we pushing all these people into as we reject them, and as we become an unreliable ally?
I mean, if you're Europe, and you need, and if you're Canada, and if you're Mexico, and if you're all these countries that we're putting pressure on, who is it that you would turn to that might be powerful enough to help them resist the power of a country like the United States?
You know, Sandy, this is called the America first doctrine.
It turns out it's the Trump first Doctrine and not and not the American people but but you know Gary Sandy is is just a part of Far too many Americans who don't want to question anything Donald Trump says or does they believe in him 100% he can't do anything wrong and I'll say to those people Excuse me
Did they know anything about Donald Trump before he became the president, Sandy?
His character.
Well, they're proving that
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Let's go to Ali.
Good morning to you Ali.
Thank you very much for the call.
You say what?
Good morning Earl.
I just want to say to Gary that after 9-11 when we needed to help all the NATO nations were there to help us and afterwards
Now, one of them came back and said, okay, now we want half of your mineral rights, or we want this repayment, or we want that repayment.
They were there to help us, and that's what we were doing, paying our obligations and helping out Ukraine.
And for Trump to come in and say that,
They need elections and that We saw when even a small part of Ukraine that was taken over by Russia was forced to Have elections they were held by gunpoint to put their votes in ballot boxes that wasn't a free and fair election and I also have one thing for Sandy
When he says, we, we, we, really, it isn't we as in the United States is doing the things, it's Trump.
These are Trump's policies, not America's policies.
And we don't want people around the world to think that America is okay with these.
These are Trump's policies that are going into effect.
Hey, Ali.
Thank you, Sandy.
I want you to clarify that because this is why I keep saying he is.
He is us, right?
Well, the problem is
that the under the Constitution, the president has substantial powers for to conduct our foreign affairs.
And so he this is an area where he legitimately has the power.
It's normally been wielded by people who wield it with more.
predictability and maybe more responsibility than he is.
But yeah, that's the problem.
Then she's identified it is that the rest of the world views this as they might understand that it's the president doing it.
But it also represents the will of the United States because that's what he controls.
Let's go to Gene.
Good morning to Gene.
Thank you very much for the call.
You say what?
Well, good morning, guys.
I'm seeing that people who are following this know I love the saying, if they're stealing it, they're doing it.
And people have significant concerns about what's going on with Elon Musk and how he's ripping apart all of the structures that hold our democracy together.
And we're dealing with a person, and people really need to look up narcissistic and narcissism.
because he's surrounding himself with those type of people that don't give one iota about anybody but themselves.
You look at their family situations and many wives they've had and the zero concerns about their kids.
You pay attention to that stuff because you're being misled.
And this is significant.
Why are you cowtowing to a person who
friend Howard Stern warned the public that Trump don't care about you.
He pokes fun at you when he's not with you.
Why do you not pay attention to this guy who wanted military parades for himself?
He wasn't worried about the cost.
Why are you idolizing this man?
There's something wrong.
You need to look at yourselves, guys, because why do you need a man like this running a country calling a good man who is trying to protect his people?
actually protecting the people that he governed.
So, Linsky, give me a break.
He was right there with his people.
But the dictator is the guy that you're bowing down to.
The dictator personality.
He's spewing it and he's doing it.
Wake up, folks.
Thank you very
much.
Hey, Gene, thank you very much for the call.
You know, you know, Sandy Olly kind of took Umbridge to the fact that, you know, Donald Trump is representing us.
And she's speaking as if he's independently and what he's saying and doing is just Donald Trump Not the case ma'am.
He's He's the president of the United States That's all of
No, the
the people.
Right.
Yeah.
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