“You Can’t Erase History!” Affirmative Action Pt 2 (Hour 2)

Some people think we don't have the right to say it's my country

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My guess is it's the one and only Reggie Jackson Award-winning journalist.

Are you still writing for The Independent?

Occasionally, Earl, I've been focusing most of my writing recently on a book that I'm writing about the history of segregation in Milwaukee.

I'm hoping to complete this summer.

That's been the main focus of my writing.

You know, I haven't written as much for the independent,

you know, educator, speaker, award-winning in all those different areas.

You know, Reggie, I know that the conversation that we're having, you know, is a hard one for some people to swallow.

But, you know, it's a conversation that has to be had.

And when people continue to be hurt.

because of these practices, generationally, Reggie.

And as I look inside of you or my community, and we watch what is taking place, and people can say, well, those people are criminals, and all they want to do is commit crimes.

People cry out for more police in our neighborhoods and in our communities.

And just like the Kerner report, had there been equal opportunities for people when people Reggie at their witch in and they don't see any way out in the wealthiest nation on earth.

Come on, man.

This is not Cuba.

This is America.

and you watch a man like Donald Trump and, and Elon Musk and they're doing things to make things even more difficult for people who struggle in this society when they are getting ready to pull a safety net from beneath the people who need it the most.

They're getting ready to do this and yet.

in the face of all of those things, Calvin, excuse me, Reggie, that there just is not any hue and outcry enough for people to address the wrong man.

Why is it?

Why is it not something that should be discussed when we're talking about this nation and it not dealing fairly?

with American citizens Reggie who are born in this nation like all other citizens who Supposedly have the same citizenship rights But in the face of that we see that these things that exist That that don't give us equal opportunities and equal access and Yet people are silent on that

I get it from 1940 and 30s and 50s and 60s Reggie, but I don't get it in 2025.

It's not acceptable.

And so people aren't willing to have the discussion and the conversations.

Why?

Why are people not willing to have that conversation?

Well, I think there are a couple of factors, Earl.

I think number one on that list is that.

you know, some of these things from a historical past are very embarrassing for me Americans to hear things that happen that they were told the exact opposite happened.

And that's really hard for people to digest, Earl.

There's a mythology of America being the land of opportunity, but there's another side of the coin that shows when you listen to the voice of people of color that this hasn't been the land of opportunity for us consistently.

And people don't want to hear that.

People think that that is, you know, demeaning the country, being in unpatriotic things at nature.

And it scares people to hear those things.

And I think secondarily, Earl, it feeds into this idea that, you know what, we've done enough for those people.

Why are they still asking for more?

And the understanding from our communities that, listen, what you've given us hasn't been enough because doors of opportunity is still shut.

And I take great deal of solace, Earl, in reading some local scholarship done by the UW Milwaukee Center for Economic Development report that they issued in April of last year called the Index of African American Well-being in the Nation's Largest Metropolitan Areas, 2024 edition.

And this hard-hitting report by Mark Levine's group there at UW Milwaukee, I think it's something that everybody should read.

It gives you a clear indication that Milwaukee in particular is a place that has gone backwards in terms of progress when it comes to many of these factors.

And the causes for that are in this report.

Can I read you just a little bit of what the report

says?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

It says, on firstly, all key indicators of Black community well-being.

Milwaukee ranks at or near the bottom when ranked against the large metropolitan areas.

Moreover, Black Milwaukee is generally worse off the day than it was 40 or 50 years ago.

Milwaukee ranks by a clear margin at the bottom of all metro areas examined on the composite index of African-American well-being.

Most disturbingly,

This poor performance is consistent on almost all the indicators for which we collected data to construct the index.

Milwaukee ranked dead last on the composite index of African American well-being on 20 of the 44 individual indicators making up the index Milwaukee ranked 48th or worse.

On 14 indicators Milwaukee ranked last or next to last by far the worst performance of any of the metro areas in the index.

Milwaukee continues opposed to lowest black meaning household income, the highest black poverty rate, the lowest percentage of African Americans holding a college degree or higher, and the widest racial disparities among 50 largest metro areas in income poverty, education attainment, and prime working age male employment.

And of course, Milwaukee continues to register the highest black non-Hispanic white residential segregation rate among the metro areas.

This is in no way to sugarcoat the numbers.

Milwaukee remains firmly ensconced as a nation's lowest ranked large metro area in African-American well-being.

And, you know, if you read this report and you see that Milwaukee is dead last in many of these indicators, Earl, it explains a lot about

what we see happening in our community on a regular basis.

I don't think people clearly understand the challenges that we face here in Milwaukee.

You know Reggie, as somebody who's in our community, as somebody who volunteers this time as much as I do, and who works, and who is doing all that he can, and he sees this poverty, and he sees this pain.

that children read you.

You see it in children.

Children who at four or five years old, you know, don't know, children up to eight, 10 years old, but something happens when they get to be about 12, 13, 14 years old.

They start realizing, looking around and seeing that things are different for them.

And so they get lost.

That people wonder why kids aren't learning well the schools aren't doing your you're an educator that well the kids the kids aren't learning because the schools can't teach them properly well, it's hard Before a young person ready to think about being educated when they're hungry in the morning The people in our community who aren't eating properly

who are moving from place to place.

They carry their belongings in black paper bags.

I mean, plastic bags.

And so they're moving their transients, families, women and children.

And this permeates our community.

And they wonder why so many young people turn to violence, Reggie.

They wonder why so many young people only see one way out.

And so,

The answer can't be more police, which is what the refrain is, unfortunately, from many in the white communities, not just across the city of Milwaukee or the state or the nation.

It's always more police, more police.

Well, you know what?

You're not going to ever have enough police to address the issues that happen when people are not given fair opportunity and an opportunity in this nation, Reggie.

Yeah, I completely agree, Earl.

You know, we have to understand the you know, the society that these children are coming from.

I was a teacher in Milwaukee public schools for eight years and I can attest to everything you say it.

I had students who came to the school angry because they were hungry because they hadn't eaten, you know.

Sometimes I had students that would come and tell me they hadn't eaten all weekend because their families, you know, were homeless.

I had a student in particular, I remember, who came to school exceptionally angry on a Monday morning.

And all of the teachers were very upset by this kid being disrespectful.

And they asked me to talk to this boy.

And I had a relationship with this kid.

He had been my student.

And so when I talked to him, he said, Mr. Jackson, we were kicked out of our house on Friday.

We've been living in our car all weekend.

And we haven't had anything to eat other than some chips from the gas station.

And so how can you expect a kid in that situation, Earl, to come to school eager to learn on a Monday morning when he's been homeless and doesn't know where he's going to go and live at the end of the school day that day?

These are things that some of our kids deal with on a perpetual basis.

And when we talk about how poorly MPS is doing, we have, as you said, a transient population of students.

uh, you know, no other school district in Wisconsin is dealing with, you know, the, uh, the demographics of the students that NPS has a transient population.

People are moving constantly.

People are being, you know, evicted from their homes and apartments,

uh,

regularly

walking.

How much of this do you think, uh, is because people are segregated in the state and, and they don't get to see black people and on a daily basis, sometimes not even in a month.

And so they draw conclusions predicated on things they hear on Fox News and other places.

And they think that black people are criminals and all these kinds of things because they're not around black people.

We only make up six percent of the population.

There clearly is not enough of us to go around where people who live in this state get to see us.

Yeah, absolutely.

You know, I would ask often be asked by people.

You know, people say, Reggie, you know, I wish I had a black friend to talk to about some of these issues.

And I would always joke that there's not enough of us to go around for every white person to have a black friend.

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And I will say this before we go to the phone lines.

You know, it's Black History Month, Reggie.

And so, you know, this nation has...

seeing fit to create, you know, Carter U. Whitson is the author of, you know, Black History and programming and, and certainly, you know, we now have that.

And so when we have these conversations, you know, I guess it is.

Black History Month, so people kind of expect to have dialogue and conversation about this, Reggie, you know, once a year.

But that's the problem, right?

It's not, it shouldn't be a Black History Month because the history of Black people in this nation, that's from its inception.

But if you can't pick out one month and say, well, this is the month that we're going to add these conversations, it's one of the reasons why we can't move forward, in my opinion.

What do you think?

Well, if you look back at the history of Black History Month, Earl, it started as Negro History Week back in 1926.

Carter G. Woodson.

Harvard train historian said, listen, it's not about black history.

It's about blacks in history.

We need to include the stories of black people as they have lived throughout American history.

We were some of the first people in this country, Earl.

We've been here longer than many white ethnic groups.

And we've been a part of the fabric of this country's history.

And so he chose that week to have scholars from around the country.

you know, dig up evidence of our contributions to American society and to celebrate it.

And eventually by 1976, it became a Black History Month officially.

It had been celebrated as a month-long celebration since 1968.

And so I think it's important that we understand that, you know, just because it's Black History Month, that doesn't mean that we can't study this history every other month as well.

Dr. Woodson thought that, you know, eventually, if we provided enough evidence of our contributions, this would become part of the normal course of education in this country that everybody would learn about our contributions in their schooling, you know, K through 12 schools.

But unfortunately, here we are all these years later, and now people want to erase that history and do the exact opposite of what Dr. Woodson wanted.

And we're fighting, you know, to see this being taught in schools.

And I could tell people, Earl, listen, most of this stuff,

is not being taught in school, very little of it is.

And if you look at the state curriculum for social studies, you'll find that it's not required part of education for anybody in the state of Wisconsin to learn these things in a way that many people think.

People think this is being forced down the throats of our children, but it really isn't.

And I've worked with a lot of school districts around the state, Earl, in Milwaukee, in Sherwood, Greendale, Wauwatosa, Racine, Kenosha, La Crosse,

uh, you know, school districts and I've talked to people and I've seen clearly that there's a thirst for understanding of this history, not just in February, but year round.

They want to learn this history, Earl.

All right.

Let's go to Earl from Tulsa.

Good morning to you, Earl.

You say what?

The earlier air, girl.

All right.

Hello.

Yes, sir.

Go ahead.

Hey, there.

Oh, okay.

Happy Motel Monday.

Yes, sir.

And happy Black American History Month.

Earlier you spoke about Judeo-Christian values, but personally I believe I can remember clearly a relative of mine recently saying that black folks don't share those same Judeo-Christian values, which tells me that they're being taught this from the pulpit as well as elsewhere.

And when talking about the current socioeconomic situation of black folks, a lot of times we hear things have gotten better, but it hasn't improved nearly as much as it has for white counterparts.

And then what I also hear often is that quote unquote, they did it to themselves when speaking about these situations.

But we see it from generation to generation.

And I think this is because as young people go from public schools and playgrounds to the workforce and college, they face competition.

And we revert back to our formative beliefs and for white folks.

Those beliefs are that black people are naturally inferior, untrustworthy, violent, on and on and on, and it gives us an excuse to circle our wagons and basically revert back to looking out for our own, which is why affirmative action laws were passed and why employers put diversity, equity, inclusion in because they saw that this is not healthy for the for the maturity and the evolution of our country.

But that 2043 number is looming large and they're seeing that coming.

And that's why you're seeing a lot of this back, this drawback, pullback kind of thing.

As far as Tom and the Packers, what I'll say about that is that let's not forget that the Packers are entertainers.

And we, the white people, again, well, we've always allowed black folks to entertain us, you know, music, sports, dancing, movies.

But I also remember now the kid even, but I remember how James Lawson was treated when he was accused of improprieties.

They forgot all about the fact that he was a superhero on the gridiron.

And that a lot of black athletes considered Wisconsin to be basically Siberia for sports for this same kind of reason.

Karim Abdul-Jabbar went through the same experience in Milwaukee in the 70s.

And lastly, not to steal words of others, but James Baldwin once said, ignorance allied with power is the most ferocious enemy justice can have.

And I'll add that I believe the ignorance he spoke was willful.

And that's we the white people having willful ignorance.

And I'll hear it from your audience members every day.

and that I believe that we'll continue to ask the dumbest question there can be.

This allows for it is what do they want?

What do they want?

And this is really truly a symptom of a nation that refuses to listen.

Hey, Eric,

thank

you.

Thank you.

Thank you very much for those really important words.

I really appreciate it.

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And so we're going to continue the conversation before we go back to the phone lines.

James says, DEI.

is premised on misunderstood reasoning that certain perceived discriminated subgroups in America need to lift up.

Whenever, whenever, whenever help subsidies are given to one special group in a free society, the uphill group will rise up and react with equal negativity.

You want to respond to that, Reggie?

Well, thanks, James, for his opinion.

I completely disagree.

You know, I did diversity and inclusion training for about 20 years.

And I don't believe that it's based on misunderstood reasoning or it's about giving, you know, subgroups a lift up.

It's about providing an even playing field role.

That's what it's about.

It's providing access to people who've been left out of the rooms where the decisions are made.

who've been left out of access to things that most Americans say for granted, that's what DE&I is about.

It's not about providing help or subsidies to any special groups, as he says.

I completely disagree with him.

And I think that he needs to talk to people that do DE&I training to get a clear understanding of what the work is about.

He obviously hasn't spoken to anyone that does any of that training.

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Hey, good morning to you, Mike.

Thank you very much for the call.

You say what?

Happy Motown Monday.

Thanks for taking my call this cold, cold Monday

morning.

Yes, sir.

And you know, Mike, this is a conversation that people get uncomfortable with, but it's a conversation that's got to be had, man.

God be had and we have to have it on a regular basis not only on the air but around the coffee table

around

kitchen table Which it is highly effective when it reaches, you know, our localities it will but you know, I'm gonna come out as And I agree with everything y'all have been talking about this morning, but you know racism Has become profitable

It conflict is profitable.

Our media is using it as a divide and conquer weapon, weaponizing against the we the peeps.

So we're not,

you

know, we're focused on the shiny objects, so to speak, as we talked about before, more so than, you know, any real conversation on specific tax policy, for example.

And until, you know, and now we have foreign actors, you know, Russia has a whole military scheme.

of disinformation, misinformation.

We know we've been told by all of our security agencies that our social media is being dominated by bad actors, if you will, driving up conflict, and racism is as big of a conflict item as I can think of.

But I have to go here, and that is, you know, here in America, we have the highest prison population by far.

We have made conflict in racism a profit center, let's try and out loud.

And until we look at the profit created by conflict, whether it's domestic or whether it be, you know, military, there's something wrong with a system that celebrates a high profit.

in for the military or the prison industrial complex.

It doesn't fit in my mind that people continue to be exposed to profit centers and being imprisoned and much less to all the divide and conquer.

So the last thing I'd like to say is until we get our heads on straight and look at the process of

conflict in racism and take as much as we can out of it.

Unfortunately, Cassius King.

Well, you know, Mike,

Mike,

you are a fair guy.

You have listened to you more than enough.

You're more than than most.

You're a fair guy.

You certainly willing to speak the truth about things.

So do you ever think that there'll ever be a time

when we'll be able to get past this, that in this nation, we'll get, you have to turn your radio down, that we'll be able to get past this bigotry and racism.

I was more optimistic than before than I am now.

America's taken a big backward step.

Yes.

recently and and a lot of the things I never ever thought would be possible are knocking at our front door um and and I'm not trying to be hyperbolic here um you know but we see this dividing conquer we see the attack on Muslims or brown skin we see it on indigenous people we see it on our native american fronts we see it with our our mexican uh yes

friends and neighbors, we see it everywhere we go.

It seems to be them against us in quite frankly until Jesus comes down and you know the Sermon of the Mount is brought back into our consciousness of what it takes to be accepted you know in heaven for those Christians in this hyper-religion era that we'll also find ourselves in.

You know, we got to start walking the walk right now.

America's kind of lost its way.

It breaks my heart.

It doesn't have to be this

way.

Hey, Mike, thank you very much for the call.

You know, Reggie, he just, he just summed up, you know, what we're dealing with, man.

Okay.

America has taken a backward step and Donald Trump stands before the world and says, that's the way we want it.

Right.

The, the American people, he speaks.

the American people and he leaves people of color out Reggie and And he's got an army of people who who agree with him Even though they know what he's talking about is is is based and predicated on racism and bigotry But yet even when you've got congressmen and senators Reggie, I I understand rank-and-file Americans, but when you've got elected officials

Who won't say anything about this and because they're in a position Reggie that their policies can make things even worse You know and so yes, it's going backwards, but people who aren't willing to speak out about it, you know, I don't understand.

Well, I do understand why Reggie again They feel many of them apparently feel

Embarrassed by what's transpired or transpiring

Yeah, I like to respectfully disagree with one of the things that Mike said actually the first thing he said that racism is becoming profitable Racism has always been profitable Earl.

Listen racism allowed people from England France The Dutch the Spanish the Portuguese to literally still land across the globe.

It was very profitable with him

racism was profitable in terms of stealing 15 million people from the continent of african bringing them to these colonies that europeans created in in the americas it was profitable so profitable that it lasted for hundreds and hundreds of years so racism then all of a sudden become profitable recently you know with with you know with the prison system and things of nature it's always been embedded in the system to be profitable and

as we look at the current state affairs, you know, people saying we're moving backwards.

I don't think that we're necessarily moving backwards as much as we're kind of maintaining the pace.

that we've always had in terms of these things.

Listen, racism has never gone away.

We've got to read some of the vestiges of racism by law, some of the policies which outlawed mixed marriage we got rid of by Supreme Court in 1967.

The Voting Rights Act in 1965 did away with discrimination and voting rights, but we are dealing with things that we've always dealt with in America.

Girl, these are not new things.

They may look new to some people who are uninformed about our history, but I don't think that we're necessarily moving backwards as much as we're, you know, holding steady.

So Reggie, do you think that because of the issues that rural America is dealing with, i.e.

some of the very same things that people in urban America are dealing with?

Lacks of opportunity You know food deserts Communities that have been disenfranchised because business has left their communities You know you've been there you've traveled to those places You've spoken with those people and do you think that that in many instances?

It's easy to blame because I've heard this conversation that many people in rural America think that the Democrats spend more time dealing with

the grievance people, i.e.

people of color, you know, LBGTQ, and left rural, you know, Americans out.

And they chose, you know, the urban grievance people over rural America.

Your thoughts on that.

You were there.

You've spent many, you know, many hours and days and weeks in rural America.

Your thoughts on that.

I

think, you know, the term, you know, rural America is euphemism for white people.

Right.

And, you know, as as if there are no people of color in those rural communities.

Listen, we have to understand that what these rural communities are dealing with across the state of Wisconsin and the nation.

is basically the same thing that black people have been dealing with for most of our time in this country.

We've been in situations where we've seen jobs disappear.

And when jobs disappear in the black community, people say, we're just lazy.

We don't want to work.

No one ever says that when jobs disappear in these small rural communities, the white people are negatively impacted.

They never say, oh, white people are just lazy.

They don't want to work.

We don't have any control over the jobs disappearing, Earl.

But we're blamed for it and white people are just you know victimized by it But we're never supposedly victimized by jobs going away.

I mean black people came to Milwaukee for good high-quality Jobs and the jobs just start to go away.

We didn't make paps go away We didn't make Schlitz or Ayo Smith or a harness failure and these companies disappear We were the victims of the jobs disappearing and somehow when those things happen to white people They don't they they're not blamed for it Earl

And we talk about, you know, rural America and the Democratic Party is, you know, rejected rural America.

I think that's just foolishness.

And I think it's coded language.

Listen, coded language doesn't work with me, Earl, because I figured out the code.

I've broken the code.

I know what they're saying.

That's the way of pandering to white people to make them feel like they're victims of something.

But your victims are the same thing that we've been victims of throughout our history.

in this country.

You know, you know, Reggie, I would say this.

It's more than frustrating to me to constantly hear that, you know, again, the Democrats turned away from rural America.

And as you stated, rural America is not just white.

If you if you in the South, many, many blacks live still live in rural America.

and yet nobody's talking about them.

The real issue here is that the people who have created these problems, Reggie, in many of these areas happen to have an hour behind their name.

And so you don't get out of it by voting for the very people who have done everything within their power to hurt both blacks and whites, poor blacks and whites.

who we should be on the same page in this fight, Reggie, right?

Because the same people who impacted and brought this pain on blacks have also brought it on whites.

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Reggie, let me do this.

Let me read this text and then we'll bring you back on.

It's bizarre, right?

Because the white people pull stereotypical black people.

gangs, thieves, thugs.

But if you suggest that stuff done during the Reagan era, our white black people are low income.

And let me see what else he says, resort to things outlined early.

And that's why they think the few who commit those crimes are the whole.

You know, we do know, Reggie, that one of the reasons you see it on.

you know, these, as people run for office, we saw what happened with Mandela Barnes.

We saw they tried it out, you know, the Willie Horton commercials, or the Willie Horton commercials for Mandela Barnes.

We saw them tried it out to Kamala Harris.

We see them doing the exact same thing right now in the state Supreme Court.

That stuff resonates with people.

with whites who just want to believe that blacks are criminals and that we're coming to their neighborhoods.

There's one commercial that I was watching recently where it talked about this one guy who was released from prison.

And guess what?

He's coming to your neighborhood.

He's coming to your house next.

And this woman who's running for Supreme Court, she let him out.

Your next your families and they buy into that man.

Yeah, you know, they buy into it early because all of us in America have been bombarded with this foolishness for so many decades that we can't see straight.

We don't know otherwise.

You know, I tell people one of the greatest tools of misinformation is Hollywood.

You know, we have all of these cop shows that we've been watching for decades in America that are perpetuating these images of black people as criminals.

And we get fed this information so often that we don't understand that it's not accurate, Earl.

And so because of that, you know, I tell people, I call those shows copraganda.

You know, the cops are always good guys and black people are always bad guys.

You know, they're always irrational people doing irrational things.

And, you know, we need to be protected from these people.

And so I told people, I stopped watching law and order.

Years and years ago because I got so tired of just being fed stuff that was just so inaccurate and so racist in my opinion That I can't watch American cop shows any of them.

I don't care what show you pick I can't watch them anymore Because I know that they're a tool of disinformation They're designed to scare people into believing that you know We need to spend billions of dollars a year on prisons instead of spending billions of dollars a year on improving our education system

you know, spending money to improve, you know, access to economic opportunities, that's what we need to be spending money.

You know, when I hear about, you know, this attempt by Elon Musk and his group of shady characters who, you know,

find, you know,

so-called- Yeah, yeah, thugs.

Yeah, you know, they're supposedly, you know, finding ways of making the government more efficient.

Well, we should start with understanding who is most in need in this country.

and stop cutting off funds for organizations that need funding.

I mean, they're closing head start programs around the country, Earl, because they're afraid of funding going away.

Yeah, here we are.

Here we are spending billions of dollars, giving billions of dollars to Elon Musk companies to send rockets up into space for no apparent reason.

And, you know, spending billions of dollars on our US military, even though there's no country that's threatening us right now, literally.

We're spending billions of dollars every year continuing to feed this military machine that we've been told we're in such danger from these other countries.

Listen, Earl, for the last 50 years of my life, I've been told that Russia is the enemy, but now we have a president who is not only appearing to be friendly with Russia, but appears to be helping Russia to win its war against Ukraine.

And we're spending, you know, billions of dollars around the world on our military.

And we're ignoring people right here at home.

You know, a lot of these people that are aggrieved are not understanding that, you know, they're being punished by people not giving access to programs and opportunities in their communities because we're spending money on stuff that I think is just ridiculously stupid.

Well, let's do this.

Let's squeeze Cam in quickly.

Cam, you say what quickly?

Hello, gentlemen.

Um, yeah, so I'm, I'm incredibly white myself.

I am so white that I almost glow in the dark.

Um, I do try to have that conversation about the racial disparity and give small history lessons as much as I can, like in the comment section about the Reagan stuff.

Um, what I think ends up being missed for a lot of the older generations and then what gets taught from them to the younger ones is that why

Do people go out and buy iPhones and get their nails quote unquote did because they they try to push the envelope that they're wasting money and irresponsibly when it's like you just try to get by man.

Hey, Cam.

Thank you very much.

Hey, Reggie.

Thank you as always.

I will see you again next Monday.

OK,

thank you.

I appreciate the opportunity.

Yeah.

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