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Hey, good morning to you, Cardi.
How you doing, sir?
Man, I am happy that there is no snow on the ground in the walkway.
And I'm enjoying the atmosphere of it being Valentine's Day and it being Friday, too.
So it's the weekend, man.
How you feeling, Earl?
What day?
Valentine's Day.
Oh.
I guess I remember a recollect there being something that they called that.
I think it's a day designed by florists and card and the Hallmark card company.
Oh yes.
You know, and so by the way, if you don't know by now, that's my co-host Sandy Williams.
Good morning to you Sandy.
How
are you?
You know what
day it is, huh?
I do.
It's the 14th of February.
For whatever and all of the implications that might have.
So for
those like Cardi who still is young and participates in that day, you know, chocolates, man.
They said the price of chocolate is going through the roof.
So if you buy some candy, it might cost you more than the flowers themselves.
I
agree.
You check it out.
Yeah.
So the turtles actually cost way more.
I went to Walker CVS pharmacy the other day to go look at the flower prices and they were $20.
The chocolate was actually $27.
So I was like.
I'm just going to get these flowers real quick.
That's what she'll be getting for Valentine's Day.
Actually, this is a bit of a segue, but one of my sons was talking to him and he brought up something sort of ironic.
You know, it might be that an egg is worth more than a chicken.
You know, eggs are so expensive now.
And you can buy, you can buy already fried chicken, a whole, a whole fried chicken for six dollars.
Okay.
So what did that chicken cost to begin with?
Before all the things were done to it, to create the chicken that you could fry and sell for six dollars when eggs cost about a dollar a piece.
I think that everyone's going to stop these eggs from hatching and just hurry up and sell the eggs.
You know, um,
I don't, I haven't noticed, I really haven't bought any eggs.
You know, my wife probably has, there's some in the refrigerator, but I don't, you know, I don't know.
And really, you can't, it's hard to say, well, I'm not gonna eat many eggs because food that you prepare sometimes has, you gotta have some eggs.
Yeah.
and no eggs are eggs are necessities and particularly if you're a chicken and apparently they are very dear right now eggs can sell for many dollars a dozen apparently so the incumbent president hasn't solved the egg price problem that's for sure
well it's a prime example of for all of those people who say it
That Joe Biden and the Democrats were the reason that the food prices were so high You know and and now there's a new sheriff in town food prices are still high and actually have gone higher and then you know if I If I chose, you know Sandy Not to buy eggs
Part of the reason why egg prices are so high is the bird flu Well, I know
that
is the reason that is the reason they're
yeah, but people
don't people aren't they don't you know, they don't
associate it with that Well, the mega Republicans to said it was Biden's fault until now and now it's the flu's fault You know it it was always the same reason
Uh, because this, this avian flu has been going on for, for a couple of years and the culling, the mass culling of the, uh, of the chickens out there has been going on for some time as well.
But it's interesting, uh, back in the, in the world of foul, where sauce for the goose is supposed to be sauce for the gander.
Uh, apparently that's not the case politically.
No.
Well, you know, so people need to know that's the reason.
and you know, you're not gonna be able to convince people of many things in these days and times.
I was talking with somebody the other day about it, and they said, well, it started under Joe Biden.
I said, well, man, listen, man, what are you talking about?
It started under Joe Biden.
Okay, bird flu didn't have a president or any individual's name is not attached or associated.
How do you associate bird flu?
with who the president of the united states is
well depends on who you are apparently uh you know that that that yeah that that's the whole craziness of laying everything at the feet of the incumbent president and and the the the callers we've have the conservative callers we have and kind of conservative politicians who've spent
four years laying everything that was going on that was negative at the feet of joe biden and and ignoring all the positive things that were going on will now do the flip side of that and will be uh blaming everyone else for anything bad that goes on including joe biden during the during this administration and will be only extolling things good that are going on now unfortunately
for the incoming incumbent, that list of good things that are going on is pretty short right now.
Pretty short.
Well, I got some good news, Sandy.
What is the guy's name?
J.D.
Vance, the vice president.
And what's that other Yahoo's name?
Pete Hedstead.
Yeah, they're going to be represented in the United States at the.
Munich Conference.
today and and I'm sure the rest of the those nations are going to be really excited to have those two wrecking balls sitting down and talking about something that these people who if you know Sandy have gotten grown accustomed to having you know meaningful conversations that here comes two guys are coming in with wrecking.
Well, as far as US policy towards Ukraine are concerned
Vance and Hegseth represent yin and yang because a couple of days ago Hegseth was busily telling the world that we were that we had to be realistic about a settlement in Ukraine No, no involvement in NATO.
They needed to give up the property that was That has been seized by Russia over time etc etc And then JD Vance comes along to kind of clean that up by saying oh no no we might send troops into Ukraine and we've got everything on the
Well, you can't have it both ways, actually.
And so, you know, I think the problem we now have is that we've got terrifically mixed signals, and everything is in the hands of Donald Trump.
And we've got foreign figures who say we don't want to talk to anyone but Donald Trump because he clearly is the guy calling the shots.
So, you know, the ability for J.D.
Vance and Pete Hegseth.
to represent the United States at a conference when everyone at that conference says, well, we aren't interested in what you have to say.
We want to talk to the president.
Yeah.
And the real irony in all of this is both those guys, Hexthef and J.D.
Vance, Sandy, you know, you would think that they would have gotten.
conversations from those who president and others about how to handle conversations, what to talk about when they go to these things, yet they're left to talk about the things themselves.
It certainly doesn't appear as if they've sat down and had the conversations that normally take place before.
We go to conferences like that where there's a unified
Voice one voice speaking Trump hasn't yeah, he certainly hasn't prepared them or whoever it is and I wonder how long is going to be You know before we we just keep seeing And then somebody I forgot where it was.
They said well, this is just a freshman mistake Well, you can't make freshman mistakes on the world You know on the world scene
especially
for
people who've been in those positions Sandy, for decades and who understand the importance of protocol.
Well, if you have an organized White House, you've got a process, internal process for spokespeople to clear what they're saying to the public on matters of national interest.
That's just like...
Government 101 that's that's rudimentary.
So, you know, I think that one of the problems is that we've we got used to it from 2016 to 2020 and we better get used to again, which is chaos and disorganization and and a non process where process usually prevails and it's all kind of done willfully in order to make only one person important and only one voice important and that's that's Donald Trump that the president so
You know with that person who's the only person anyone can rely on better be smart better better actually Be in a position to understand all the issues and that's the worrisome thing.
No one can be that smart and I'm not at all sure that the incumbent even comes close to that point
so who generally would would would organize the chairs
and sit down and have these dialogues and conversations.
If it's not the president, who is the person who normally would be that person in government to be able to, and I guess a lot of it is these people are for the most part new, and they're dealing in areas
that they don't know anything about.
Well, the process would normally get led by the chief of staff in the White House, so that'd be wiles, but it's the extent that she's given a long enough leash to do this by the president.
And that person would organize the people internal to the government who have knowledge and input on the particular issues.
They'd meet, convene, talk, or organize thoughts.
develop position statements and clear the statements that are going to be given to the public about those issues.
And that's not necessarily a smooth process, but it's one that needs to be carried out in order not to have chaos and not to send mixed signals and not to confuse the rest of the world as well as the American public.
All right eight five five seven five two forty eight forty two It's Friday.
That means Friday's my co-host Sandy Williams and you We're gonna we got so much stuff to cover Sandy before we get into the conversations you and I are gonna be having Doge rips through education department cutting contracts staffs grants just a bull in a china shop and You know, you know, what next?
We'll talk about a little bit about this
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It's Friday.
That means Friday's my call.
Sandy Williams, Sandy the music.
Well, you know, it's interesting when I go to find something that means something, I often find Stevie Wonder right in the middle of it.
That Stevie wonders, he's Mr. Know-it-all.
And, you know, we do have someone in office who seems to be a Mr. Know-it-all.
You know Sandy and we'll go to the phone lines after this Sandy Elon Musk is is dealing With some high-level in the high-level policy discussions that can benefit the company that he owns Tesla This used to be unconscionable and unthinkable and this could never happen It's happening
in broad daylight
Yeah, it used to be scandalous.
He meets with Mahdi Modi, the head of India, and has a private conversation with him, which is all about the matters that he has business interests in India about, or at least in all likelihood, that was the subject of the conversations.
That's what I was saying.
What's happened is that this current populist movement that's headed by Donald Trump is taking on maybe K Street and corporate interests in terms of being the private big money that was having a big impact on government.
But what's happened is now we have
essentially oligarchs the terribly wealthy who are controlling government it's not just that they're influencing government they're actually controlling it they're participating in government it's not that they're meeting with senators and congress people and trying to affect legislation no they're actually out front controlling public policy participating in the government itself it's it's there's never been anything like this
let me ask you sandy do you think the average
rank and file American who voted for Donald Trump, understands what is transpiring now.
Do you think they really understand the complexities of what is taking place that they may not understand because it is pretty complex?
And yet they're still saying I'm still with him.
He's still my guy.
I voted for him to, you know, to.
It transformed the government
Well, it's it's almost like the baby gasoline that bonds to the the goose, you know, they've they've bonded to this guy and Now anything and everything that he's doing seems to be acceptable to the manga because it's he is the party not
policy.
And they all knew during the campaign that he was saying everything and that the policy he was going to implement was altogether ambiguous.
And so they've all imprinted on him.
It's uncanny.
But now what's going on is actually, I think, too complicated in a way for anybody to understand because
For instance, Elon Musk and what he's doing in the agencies is entirely not transparent, going in and looking at all the records and getting AI to analyze all the records and then taking action based on public allegations of fraud and corruption when in fact there's been no transparency establishing anything like fraud or corruption, you know, whether they found some, maybe they have, but what
The president is talking about what Alon Musk is talking about when they describe something as corrupt or fraudulent is simply programmatic money that they disagree with, which is policy.
So let me read a couple of texts.
So.
So Mark says, yeah, Earl, average rank and file guy here understands it all.
Nice try being condescending.
Tony responds, people who follow.
follow it closely, have a hard time understanding the scale and effects of the cuts.
The everyday person has no idea what's going on.
Mark, so Sandy, this is not being condescending.
The magnitude of the decisions and the things that are happening right now, Mark can say that the average guy understands it.
He can't, he doesn't.
Because the average guy is trapped like me.
We're trying to make it, man.
We're trying to make it to the next
pay period.
Well, they aren't giving us the information to allow us to understand it.
So nobody.
out there understands it and I suspect the people in government don't cross the board understand it either because it's all happening happening and sort of a unilateral basis sui generis day by day you know it's it's all kind of extemporaneous and so that's the problem with it it's you know the mark and the people who who have imprinted on Donald Trump and want to believe that everything that's happening is good maybe you know
We don't know what's happening, so it's hard for us to judge what it is that's good or bad about what's happening, and I think at least the people should wake up to the fact that we should have transparency so that we understand what's happening, because I'm not being condescending.
I'm not saying other people don't understand it, and I do.
I don't understand it.
It's impossible to understand because we aren't being given the information.
Well, Sandy, you know part of what it is.
it's in the document that you that you we talked about in project 2025.
So yeah, a lot of it is that.
Let's go to Paul from Spooner.
Spooner, thank you very much for waiting.
Thank you for the call.
You say what?
Well, I'm concerned about something else.
I haven't been brought up yet, but I'm concerned about this crap that he's coming up with about the 51st date.
I'm concerned about him saying that he's going to
take Gaza.
And to me, that is dangerous language.
That doesn't deter our economy.
That is dangerous.
There is groups within our country that are already sat here that would love to do harm to us just because of that stupid conversation of taking Gaza.
You know, he said there was netting on and brought it up.
Netting on his face went blank because how stupid he would be to make up such stupid comments.
and it not only hurts Israel, because most people are willing to die from that strip of land, and it's been going on for 80 years.
And this idiot's not the guy that's going to solve their problems.
And I'm thinking he's putting Americans in danger.
He's talking
like that.
Well, you know, Paul, there's no question that that kind of conversation can mobilize the Muslim community.
We've seen
You know when you when you look Sandy at the fact that the Muslim community itself is no match militarily for the Western civilization that there no match There's only one other way right for him to fight back and that is and I nobody's justified to Sandy, but you don't need to do anything to to
make people want to do harm than to hear this thing that we're gonna move these people out of their homeland.
Well, you know, guerrilla warfare is the definition that used to be used for what we now call terrorism.
And guerrilla warfare has always been the strategy of those for whom there is complete imbalance and power, right?
So, and particularly guerrilla warfare is the strategy of those.
who are being isolated and occupied.
And so, yeah, but I mean, I think that Donald Trump's discussion of such things as the 51st state and Greenland and Gaza.
are probably things that he's honestly thinking about because his mind is so scattered.
But the people behind him, the people who are using Donald Trump as the tool for implementing all of these willful strategies and government that are in project 2025, are pleased to have him with all these distractions, having people concentrating on the craziness associated with all of that talk, while meanwhile,
They're they're they're weaponizing the FBI politically.
They're weaponizing the Department of Justice politically.
They're doing all these things to take over our government and to modify it in very fundamental ways.
Hey, Sandy,
did I hear you right?
They're weaponizing the Department of Justice.
I thought Joe Biden did that.
No, that's that's the whole gaslighting concept.
Accused them of doing what we plan on doing.
And whether or not Joe Biden misused it, I don't know.
But that certainly doesn't justify for the American public the notion that it ought to be that way.
And now what they're doing is doing it in broad daylight.
You know, this Eric Adams, this termination of the prosecution of Eric Adams, this pardoning of Blagdanovich, the whole process is openly political.
All right, let's go to Jim from Eden.
Good morning to Jim.
You say what?
Yes.
Good morning, Earl and Sandy.
Something that's very obvious is the U.S.
Department of Education.
You know, last year, you can look it up, spent $368 billion, and they have roughly around 3,000 employees yet.
You know, that's a lot of money.
Yep.
You know, our country is rated 40 in reading and in math.
40 of the countries around the world.
You know, that's what's so clear.
You know, the Republicans present a problem like that and say, we're going to do something about the US Department of Education.
You know, isn't that clear?
So,
so, so Jim, do you think dismantling the Department of Education is going to improve it?
We'll save a lot of money if they're not improving our kids' education after these many years since 1970.
We've kept one down and down and down.
Well, I think what we ought to do is we ought to have some public discussion about how that $380 million is spent because what it doesn't do is control the curriculum of what goes on in our public schools around the country or our private schools around the country right now.
And so the nature of our schools requires some help.
But it's basically a local process.
And maybe there needs to be more federal help.
I mean, we haven't really discussed or had a public discussion of how do we get our public schools and our school system generally to do a better job.
But I'm not sure that simply destroying one arm of the process is necessarily going to improve local schools.
I don't think we've had any discussion or proof that the federal government has damaged.
uh what it is that's ongoing in our public schools uh so you know uh what that amounts to instantly the the amount of money that you described uh is a drop in the bucket seven million
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