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706 right now, thank you so much for joining us this morning.

My name is Jamie Martinson.

You are not Brian Noonan this morning.

I am not.

But I am going to do my best to fill in.

You are.

I can't do...

any of the sound effects, but I can damn well try.

That's right.

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Thank you.

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With that taken care of, it is time for

some stuff you need to know.

At

one

point I just wish we could say it.

Why not

now?

Maybe, maybe.

Are

you ready?

Maybe, maybe that's right.

All right.

So I don't know if you've heard about this, but this is pretty cool.

There's a new bronze statue sculpture honoring Ho-Chunk healer Betsy Thunder that's been installed in Riverside Park in La Crosse.

Now, Thunder was known in the late 1800s for treating both Ho-Chunk residents and white settlers in the region.

This sculpture replaces the former Hiawatha statue, which was removed in 2020 after criticism that it in actual

represented Native Americans and reinforced stereotypes.

Ho-Chunk leaders say the new statue provides a more accurate representation of the tribe's history and presence in the lacrosse area.

This sculpture was created by Deborah Fabian using historical photographs and historically accurate clothing and details.

The new Ho-Chunk garden will feature native plants used for traditional medicine and is also intended to highlight themes of healing community and cultural understanding.

Organizers say this project is about more

than honoring one individual, they hope that it also recognizes the continuing presence and contributions of the Ho-Chunk people in Western Wisconsin.

This garden is scheduled to be officially dedicated on July 30th.

And when I was looking at this story yesterday, I was looking at some of the photos, not only of the statue, but of the garden itself.

Beautiful, beautiful place.

So this is gonna be very exciting.

I'm actually, I love La Crosse.

La Crosse is one of my favorite areas to visit.

If you've never taken a drive down the inner

state, there's this moment where when you come through one of the curves, it's all of the bluffs, all of the trees, and it is one of the most picturesque places ever.

So I love being able to visit La Crosse.

So put that on your list if you're going to be in the area.

More headlines and stuff you need to know.

Milwaukee officials are going to hold a public hearing on June 24th to discuss the possibility of converting wheat energies from an investor owned utility to a publicly owned

utility.

The hearing will include presentations on Wisconsin law governing utilities, information about public power systems, and an opportunity for public comment.

Supporters say that public ownership could give local residents and elected officials more control over energy decisions and rates.

WeEnergies says that its current model provides reliable service, competitive rates, and resources that would be difficult for a city-run utility to match.

No decision is going to be made at this hearing.

It's expected

to start a broader discussion, though, about whether public ownership is a viable option for Milwaukee.

And then without further ado, in stuff you need to know, Amtrak is expected to release a final plan this month for expanding Hiawatha passenger rail service from Milwaukee to Madison with stops in Pihuahqui and Watertown.

This proposal would extend two existing daily Hiawatha round trips that currently run between Chicago and Milwaukee.

Amtrak estimates the extension could attract about

260,000 additional riders each year and views it as one of the most promising passenger rail expansions in the country.

If funding and environmental approvals move forward, service could begin as early as 2029.

This project is expected to cost between $215 million and $275 million, with federal grants potentially covering up to 80% of those construction costs.

Supporters say that the line would improve travel options between

Milwaukee and Chicago while creating jobs and generating an estimated $46 million in annual economic impact.

Proposed station locations include Pewaukee, Watertown, and also a temporary station in downtown Madison.

The expansion would serve as the first step in a broader vision of extending passenger rail service farther west into Wisconsin in the future.

I mean, if you can't get excited about this, I don't know what you could get excited about because this opens up so many options to

If you want to come into the state just for a day, if you-

Oh man, this would be great for me.

Right, you'd be able to come up here and check out Madison for a couple of days from Chicago.

I think this is great.

I love that there's federal grants that are going to be an option for this as well.

So I am very excited to see the progress for this.

And you know, we talked about travel briefly in one of our last segments.

And the one thing you notice when you go to other countries is how accessible everything is by public transportation, which is why everybody gets to travel to different neighboring countries because you just hop on a train and get there within a few hours.

I wish I could hop on a train tomorrow morning and get to Madison.

Yes.

Easy peasy.

I mean, that's the one thing.

We do have Amtrak service in this state, but it's not the commuter type, right?

It's literally

you have

to be going on a trip.

It's a little bit more of an investment when you do an Amtrak trip right now in Wisconsin.

So I'm excited to see the progress on this.

I mean, really honestly, I know a lot of people think, oh, 2029, it's not that far away.

No, it really isn't.

It's coming up quick.

It is coming up.

Point your eyes.

It'll be here.

It will.

Absolutely.

All right, so we have the big story of the hour though, and I

am

excited to talk about this one because, you know, dating apps, if you've ever been somebody who's used one of those, it can help people find others with shared interests.

I mean, there's really dating apps right now for anybody, music lovers, sports, religion, hobbies, pet lovers.

Parker, are you on the apps?

Don't worry about it.

I'm only asking so I could get your phone tomorrow and I can just

Just do power swipe.

Everybody and anybody.

You can match

him with some people.

You

can set him up.

It'll be great.

It'll be great.

I think we need a camera then to follow you on the first date, like inconspicuously.

It's fine.

We can set that up.

We can make that happen.

Give me the metaglasses.

All

right, we can make that happen.

Forget that.

I'll just put on a horrible fake mustache and a disguise and follow him around.

I

said cameras with you.

That's fine.

Thank you.

We'll make sure it happens.

Oh,

good.

The question is, though, when it comes to dating apps, what happens when your view

on vaccines become one of the most important factors in fighting a new partner.

There is a growing number of niche dating apps that are connecting people based on their vaccination status and views on public health.

Organizers say it's about shared values and personal freedoms.

Now, an anti-vaccination dating app called Unjected, that's the name, which

you have to love.

It is, it's

actually

Unjected.

is hosting in-person meetups around the country, bringing together people who oppose COVID-19 vaccines and many other vaccines.

The events are part of this four city summer of love tour.

That's what they actually call it.

That's designed

to

help like-minded singles meet potential partners and, you know, build community.

Organizers describe this movement as being focused on personal choice, bodily autonomy, and medical freedom rather than just opposition to vaccines.

Well, nobody wants to be around you if you're not taking, if you're not vaccinated because we don't want to catch something from you.

Well, anti-vaxxers.

do.

They want to be around other anti-vaxxers.

I find this really interesting because I feel like this is just a rational person will look at this and be like, okay, this is just a foot in the door.

We still have to talk about other things in life.

Right.

With the understanding that once we have a child, we're not going to take them to the doctor for their vaccines.

Right.

No, this is true.

I mean, because

If you've dated or you're young enough to remember dating, it feels like it was an eternity ago, you know that there's always that one, you have to have commonalities with people.

That's just it.

We've all been on really good dates.

We've all been on really bad dates.

And usually the worst dates were the ones where you had absolutely nothing in common with that person.

So I feel like this is just that one point where you're like, ooh, we'll latch on to this person because they have this one thing in common with us, right?

And I don't know.

It just feels weird though.

It feels like I would have to, I saw myself to like leave the room.

Real quick sidebar.

Parker.

When you're, allegedly, perusing.

Are you worried about commonalities?

See, girls will get it differently, right?

Parker's not worried about the commonalities right off the jump.

You're also young.

You probably

don't want somebody yet.

Hold on.

No, no, no, no.

I don't think women are fully... There has to be some sort of physical attraction.

Of

course.

Off the rest.

Those apps are built for...

physical attraction.

Traction, right.

Yeah, those aren't built for...

See, I'm old

enough.

Unless you're going to Antidex.

What about Hinge?

Isn't Hinge very prompt-based?

I'll get back to you.

Sure.

Here's the thing.

Don't act dumb.

We'll research that one.

I am also

old enough to remember that when your dating app was literally going to the bar and making sure you hadn't had too much to drink so that everybody looked like they actually looked the next day, okay?

So that's how I

remember dating apps.

but for this particular dating app.

Unjected.

Attendees have traveled long distances for the event, some flying from other states, others drive hundreds of miles to meet people who share these views.

Unjected launched in 2021 and it markets itself as a dating platform specifically for people who choose not to be vaccinated.

There are several other niche dating platforms that have emerged in recent years targeting unvaccinated individuals and those skeptical of the vaccine requirements.

A lot of experts say that political beliefs

public health views and personal values have become increasingly important factors in modern dating decisions.

And this particular app was briefly removed from major app stores in 2021 over concerns related to COVID-19 misinformation.

Later though, it returned to Apple and Google platforms.

So now it's okay.

You know, then it wasn't, but now it's fine that it spreads misinformation about vaccines.

It's fine.

Who doesn't it this point in time?

You know what?

I think swipers stayed into coming up next.

It's just gonna be all fake stories.

I think that's

but they're real to me Parker.

It's not a lie if you believe it It's not

it's not if you truly truly believe it is not and we are gonna get into swiper stay in just a few moments pop culture celebrity news

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Thank you so much for joining us today on the Civic Media Network.

It is time for Swiper's Day.

Hey, we don't have to reintroduce you because you've been with the show all morning.

I know.

Because

Brian is out today.

Our senior producer, Frank, joining me as co-host today.

And of course now for Swiper's Day, where we dive into pop culture, we put politics aside for a few minutes, and we get into the headlines that really matter in our lives.

And real quick, I'm going to do everybody is solid.

OK.

The word of the hour is wheel.

Thank

you.

W-H-E-E-L.

You may have heard it was a different word, but it is actually wheel.

That's just because

I'm an idiot.

W-H-E-E-L.

It was a different word because I'm an idiot and I forgot

to look at my new chart.

No, no, we've got lots of tabs and spreadsheets open.

I do,

I do.

And hey, by the way, before we jump into this, because I just found out about this this morning, I don't know how I missed it.

Happy birthday.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Of course.

Of course.

And happy birthday to Parker's dad.

Your dad's birthday today too?

It's also my dad's birthday, yeah.

What are you doing

to

celebrate with your dad?

I'm going to a softball game without him.

To get a ring.

You're ditching him on his birthday?

Wait, are they going to a nice dinner without you?

I have no idea.

probably

I bought this I bought these tickets like

months

ago

and I went oh wait a minute that's not

good

no your your mom and dad looked at each other went Parker's gonna be out of the house let's go this steak house let's

go

Let's go.

Anyway, we'll get back to that, the birthday celebrations.

But swipers say, here's how it's gonna work today.

Parker, you're gonna get an actual vote.

An actual vote.

All

right.

I'm gonna read some pop culture headlines.

Jamie and Parker will have to decide whether to stay and hear more or swipe onto the next one.

In the event of a tie, I'm just gonna read the story to fill time.

All right.

So moving on to story number one.

Nick Reiner.

makes demands from jail.

I'm

going to swipe.

Oh, what kind of such a horrific story.

It was.

But I'm also really wondering what demands the guy could have.

He has demands.

Stay.

All right, stay.

We can stay.

Nick Reiner wants the money that he is owed from the trust his parents Rob and Michelle Reiner set up for him.

As he awaits the trials for their murders.

I'm laughing at the absurdity.

It's a horrific story.

But I cannot believe that yes, Nick Reiner is now demanding

is inheritance basically.

That is mind boggling.

Now

I'm, Janie, I'm not a fancy schmancy lawyer.

Sure.

I'm not well versed in law.

But I'm just gonna go out on a limb and say that if you do in fact murder the people that are leaving you money, I don't think you should get the money.

Not to mention

the fact that

he's probably going to spend, I'm guessing, a few years in

Prison for said murders alleged.

I mean he's

two years.

Yeah

What what is he gonna do with the money why he's there?

I

Alleged he's looking to hire a new lawyer

With the money

with the money, but he wants to he wants his money

because the attorney told him that he doesn't have a

prayer of getting out, is that what that's

the new attorney?

Probably, would you take this case?

Right, no, that's just it.

It feels, I mean, obviously it's gotta go through the court of laws, but it feels pretty much like we all know what the conclusion is most likely going to be, right?

It's pretty open and shut.

I mean, maybe you need somebody to plead a good insanity case, but I think that's your best bet.

Wow.

I feel

like asking for the money is helpful for the insanity

case.

It's a bold move.

It's a very

bold move.

It is

insane.

Moving on, we have a controversial celebrity couple that has called it quits.

Oh,

okay.

I'll stay.

Yeah, a little

drama.

I like drama.

This is more Janie's wheelhouse.

It's

not Mike Brable, is it?

It is not Mike

Brable.

And

we will talk about that as soon as there's more updates on that.

I hope there are fingers crossed.

All right.

Sources close to the former couple.

Ethan Slater and Ariana Grande have called it quits allegedly a couple months ago.

The story just broke and it is confirmed that the two have split up but they remain friends and are very supportive of one another.

I've lost track of Ari's love life.

Was she married to this one?

She was not married to Ethan Slater.

Okay, but

they'd been together for a while.

Was she married or was she engaged?

I don't know.

I've lost track of her

love life.

Ethan Slater was married.

Okay, all right.

Ethan Slater was married and had a kid.

I

mean,

and then dumped her for Ariana Grande right as they were shooting Wicked.

How did she think this was going to end?

I mean, he doesn't have a great track record.

Her?

Right.

How did he, he had a wife and kid.

How did he think this was going to end?

The

whole thing is, I don't know.

I lost track of Ariana Grande's love life.

I think she has too.

And that's nothing against her.

No, I love her.

If I'm super rich, famous and attractive and could sing like that, I'd play the field a lot too.

The point, the fact of the matter is if I'm Ethan Slater, buddy.

We all looked at this couple and I don't mean to say this to sound shallow, but you didn't, it just didn't make sense.

You didn't have a chance in hell.

and saying with this part, nobody gave it more than six months.

They lasted longer than everybody expected.

Good for them.

I think this was the conclusion everybody did expect.

Wow.

Oh, yeah.

It's weird how in normal life, people talk about these things.

Celebrities go through significant others as quickly as Ariana Grande, and everybody's like, eh, she's a celebrity.

It's fine.

Well, yeah.

What else are you going to do?

Yeah, the world is your oyster.

I agree with Parker.

There you go.

There

you go.

Why not?

The world is your oyster.

I love that.

Real quick, we've got time for one quick story.

We have the first movie of the year to reach $1 billion at the box office.

Oh, we'll stay.

I'll stay

on this one.

I like it.

Let me sign in real quick.

It just signed me out.

Gorgeous

literally at

this time.

Cool.

How

much time we got Parker?

About 30 seconds.

It is the Super Mario Galaxy movies

the first

movie of the year to reach one billion dollars at the box office.

That's we are 128 and a half million domestically and 571 and a half million internationally.

The first Mario Brothers movie also.

hit a billion dollars.

So Universal is doing very well for themselves.

That's why, per se, I'm getting the wrap up signal.

You are getting there.

We have more on Daybreak coming

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735 right now.

Thank you so much for joining us this morning on the Civic Media Network.

My name is Jamie Martinson, and you, in fact, Frank, are not Brian Noonan.

But you

are

Frank.

You

probably heard me on this show before.

I'm just filling in for the day.

That's right.

That's right.

And we're glad that you are here on the stream.

We were talking about, you know, driving movies based off of swipe or stay.

And I was telling you guys that I am the worst outdoor person in the summer because I

am

I bugs love me.

Bugs love me.

In fact, my husband calls me a human mosquito.

If I am sitting outside with anybody else, you will not have one bug around you, not one mosquito.

They will all be around me.

I don't know what it is about me.

They love me.

And I-

Jamie, I think you and I need to sit at a campfire and have a who's more miserable.

Are

you the same way?

I'm

the same

way.

Oh, I hate

it.

And once I, and you know what, I think it's very much like in my head.

Right.

Once I feel one,

I

just feel them everywhere.

And then I get told to calm down and then I get more upset.

No,

it's a whole thing.

It is a whole thing.

And then we were talking, I am super allergic to the bites that mosquitoes leave, even if they land on me.

All of a sudden I have this half dollar sized welt and then it swells way up and then it gets hot to the touch.

It's there for forever.

I love to be outside.

I love to hike.

I am like the deep queen.

Like I am head to toe and I might as well use it as an aerosol just around me because it just makes me happy.

But yeah.

If you have those issues in the summer, we can relate.

We can totally be friends and we'll keep the bugs away from everybody else at the campfire.

That's

how

to go.

Should get you one of those chairs that's got like the screen around

it.

Oh, that would be so neat.

That

would be lovely.

Like

the bubble boy.

Like the bubble boy.

You could be a bubble boy.

Yeah.

Like the bubble boy.

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All right, with that being said, we know that in this country, elections keep getting harder and harder and the rules keep changing all the time.

And once again, the election rules are at the center of a national debate.

It turns out that the Trump administration is pushing new measures involving voter rolls and absentee ballots while voting right groups are challenging those

court, and then of course there's a little bit of movement on the election front in Wisconsin too, which we'll get to in just a moment.

But the Trump administration says states will be able to access federal citizenship data by the end of June to help identify potential non-citizens on voter rolls.

We are back to this discussion.

Here we go.

I mean, the discussion never left, right?

That's been the point of basically taking on the election process since the very beginning.

And let me be clear, I know I've pointed this out on the show before, I'm gonna do it again.

Multiple studies have found that voter fraud is extremely rare.

There was an analysis done just a year or two ago that says that the voter fraud ranges from anywhere from .003% to .0025%.

So less than a 1% chance of voter fraud.

In fact, the research concluded that somebody in the United States is more likely to be struck by lightning than to commit voter fraud at the polls.

that is the facts of

voter fraud.

Wait, so are you saying that the election in 2020 may not have been rigged?

It may not have been rigged.

In fact, I believe that it was analyzed.

It was taken through the courts in numerous different states, including here at Wisconsin, and there was no rigging of the election whatsoever.

It has gone through the process of being

basically being shown that it was a fair outcome to the election.

But here we are, we continue to litigate it six years later.

Now, this effort is part of a March executive order that was aimed at tightening election procedures ahead of the 2026 midterms.

Homeland Security actually plans to give election officials access to citizenship information from federal databases, including records maintained by Immigration, Social Security and State Department

Well, it turns out in this country, we already have laws that prohibit anybody who is a non-citizen from actually casting a vote.

But, you know, if this is what Homeland Security is spending their time on, sure, we'll let them continue to do that.

The administration also says that the goal is to prevent non-citizen voting, which studies and election officials generally, as we just pointed out.

find to be very, very rare.

The order also calls for increased monitoring of mail ballots.

And this is, this is where I think most of us should take pause because federal officials say they want to track absentee ballot data for signs of possible fraud or misuse.

Now there's been voting rights groups, including the League of Women Voters and the NAACP.

We've talked about some of these lawsuits here on the show that have filed these suits in court, arguing that this executive order

seeds presidential authority and could actually interfere with state-run elections.

There are critics out there who say that this particular plan could create confusion for voters and raise concerns about privacy, voter access, and the accuracy of federal citizenship databases.

There's also people who support what this administration is doing, say that these changes could improve election security and help states maintain accurate voter registration polls.

We talked earlier last week about the US Postal Service, how they've proposed all of these new requirements that would require states to provide voter information before

or mailing the ballots they want to get local police involved.

I mean.

Really, at the end of the day, this is exactly what they've always wanted.

It's to so mistrust.

It's to keep people from actually casting a vote and making it much harder to

vote.

I was going to say, Sonny, I don't even know if it's so much the mistrust that's going to get a lot of people.

I think it's just going to become too much of a hassle.

You know, especially when we look at people Parker's age, the Gen Zers, when you're first starting to get into voting and you see all of this news come out and.

you know everything's changing and the processes are processes are different and all this stuff if I'm young and I was at one point

coming straight out of college, looking at that and be like, hey, are you voting?

And be like, no, I don't want to deal with all that.

Which I think is interesting, though, and an interesting way to look at it, because in this past presidential election, when you look at how young people, Parker's age, voted, young females tended to skew more towards Kamala Harris, but it was the young males who actually took a hard swing.

towards President Trump and cast their vote for President Trump.

So I think that it's fascinating that many times this administration does things that actually spite their own agenda.

Or that's

what

it feels like.

I'm sure there's some underlying reason.

Obviously the citizenship is part of that underlying reason.

Immigration is part of that.

They believe, telling the world that non-citizens are voting, which is not happening.

But at the end of the day, it is essentially things that spite

their own agenda, which I always find ironic that you would try to dissuade people from voting when it's also Republicans who are an older demographic who tend to use mail-in voting, when it's rural voters who also

use

mail-in voting.

So the fact that they're trying to dissuade that is interesting to me and I'm not sure.

why you would want to dissuade your own voters from actually heading to the polls or casting a ballot.

And I think the answer is what you said earlier for the rest of the demographic is so distrust.

As

long as you're questioning everything, you never lose.

And obviously, here we are, six years later, still litigating the 2020 election.

Still talking about it.

Still talking about it.

Obviously, they're trying to implement these federal changes, which could affect our elections nationwide.

And obviously, keeping an eye on the 2026 midterms as we quickly approach those.

But here in Wisconsin, there are two separate election stories that are also putting the spotlight on voter confidence and how our elections are administered on a local level.

Now, these are both fascinating to me because we know that Milwaukee has come under...

the err of this particular president with the central count, how it operates in the state of Wisconsin.

And the city has now hired two outside legal groups to help respond to all of those election related issues as the FBI investigates aspects again of the 2020 election.

Again, litigated, found to be a completely fair election that was done within...

the rights of the state.

Yes.

How much money and time and energy are we wasting on?

A ton.

We have to be.

I mean, there is no dollar amount attached to this, but the fact that the city of Milwaukee now has these two legal groups who are helping rehash and relitigate something that happened six years ago.

I mean, this is all going to be at taxpayer expense just so this administration can feel good.

about the fact that the president lost the 2020 election because he lost the 2020 election.

He lost.

If anybody's in favor of still looking into the 2020 election, please let us know.

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I'm genuinely.

curious at this point what this does for anybody.

It's interesting because there's some polls that have come out within recent weeks and months that talk about how Republicans still, there's several Republican voters who still have distressed of the 2020 election, but they are also ready for this administration to move on.

So I don't know what this really gains them by continuing to question the results of something that happened almost a decade ago now.

Mark from Prairie to Sack chiming in saying that Wisconsin's very own Ron Johnson with part

of that,

yeah, was part of that fake elector ballot conversation in an effort to get them to, you know, get Mike Pence to, to basically not,

words escaping me right now, basically getting him to not confirm the election for-

To certify it.

Thank you, thank you.

Words are hard this morning.

You're welcome.

You know- The word is wheel.

Mark says, in my opinion, Ron Johnson knew the insurrection was coming to delay certification, enabling them to replace the real electoral votes.

Thank you for the text this morning.

But federal agents have actually, in Milwaukee, interviewed several current and former Milwaukee election officials, staff members, and at least two Milwaukee police officers at this point.

Much of the questioning reportedly centers on Milwaukee's central vote counting operation on election night in 2020.

have asked about an incident involving a flash drive that was mistakenly left in a voting machine, but was later recovered and turned over to authorities.

City officials say that outside legal assistance will be provided at no cost to the taxpayers.

So that does

in fact answer

your question, Frank.

Now there have been multiple recounts, court rulings, audits and reviews that confirm in Milwaukee that Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election in Wisconsin.

And I know we're running out of time so quickly.

in Madison, a former Madison deputy clerk, who took responsibility for 23 absentee ballots that arrived late on election night, has been reassigned now to non-election duties.

City officials have emphasized that the affected voters followed the rules and that the problems were caused by election administration errors, not the voters, so that person will not be touching the ballots again.

I guess that's some good news.

Gotta take accountability even on the local level.

The question this morning, could you ditch your house and live in an RV full time?

Frank, more Wisconsin residents are doing that.

We're gonna explain the laws, the costs, and the realities of RV living next on Daybreak.

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He missed the countdown,

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There was no warning.

Where was the fuck?

I couldn't get a fiber.

He's on the

phone, so I understand that.

So we'll give him a break on that one.

But a true pro.

We didn't miss the top of this

segment.

Good

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Parker.

Very, very nicely done.

He's not listening to anything we're saying.

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All right, Frank, we've actually talked about this.

So I think that this is interesting.

Have you ever, what is happening out there?

Was there a truck?

Oh, there was

a truck.

I

was gonna say.

Did you hear that?

I heard something.

I did.

There's a big truck going down State Street.

He apparently needed to get through.

We actually talked about doing this at one point.

Have you ever wondered if you could sell your house, buy an RV and just hit the road full time?

More Wisconsin residents are actually starting to do that.

And the number of people living in RVs has more than doubled in recent years.

But of course, before you trade in the front door for a camper door, there's a few things that you need to know about how this actually works.

in the state of Wisconsin.

And I guess the big question and the question that we had to ask ourselves, is it as affordable as it actually sounds?

Turns out that by the time you, if you have to buy a huge truck to pull a rig, right?

And you have to buy the rig.

No.

It turns out that it is actually not cheaper if you're going to do it that way, especially if you're figuring in like gas and then stops along the way and all of that.

Now we had actually contemplated doing this when our kids were really, really little.

because of the storm chasing, right?

We wanted to be able to be in a central location and then be able to go out and actually help in the cleanup process and volunteer in some of those areas that get hit really hard by tornadoes.

Then by the time we added it all up, figured it all out, it was not going to be cheap whatsoever, at least not the way that we intended on doing it.

But a lot of people in Wisconsin are choosing full-time RV.

and the number of people living in RVs or vehicles similar to that has grown from about 1,100 back in 2019 to nearly 2,700 just a couple of years ago.

If you're doing the math this morning, that's 137% increase.

I did not do that on my own, I had to calculate it.

You know what, I wasn't gonna.

I'm not even going to check your math.

I'm just going to let it

happen.

Now, Wisconsin does not have a statewide ban on full-time RV living.

Local governments actually set their own rules on this.

Milwaukee and Madison generally do not allow people to live full-time in RVs on residential property with only limited exceptions for temporary parking.

If you're outside some of the major cities or the urban areas, their rules are going to vary by community if this is something you want to do.

In fact, a lot of full-time RV residents stay in

capgrounds, RV parks, or a lot of other locations where long-term stays are permitted.

In fact, if you get into some of the national park areas, campers can stay up to 14 days without fees or permits if they follow federal camping rules.

And a lot of RV living can eliminate rent, the mortgage payments.

It still comes with the cost though, as we quickly found out, including the purchase price, all of the financing, the insurance, the maintenance, the fuel, the capground fees.

Yeah.

Oh, fuel.

Fuel's

cheap right

now.

What do you mean?

Drill, baby.

Drill.

Simple.

And if you're keeping score, new RVs can range anywhere from about $15,000 to about $380,000, depending on the size and all the features.

Year-round RV sites in Wisconsin are about $190 per month, which is a lot of

is much less expensive than, you know, an apartment, which an average price for one bedroom is about 1,100, depending on where you're at in the month.

So, I mean, there are benefits to the whole thing, I guess, if you really want to go that route.

We actually have friends who have a permanent spot and they actually leave their house in the summertime and then stay at their RV all summer long, and that's where they live and that's where their home base is in the summertime.

So that's kind

of a

good way to do it.

I think it takes a very special kind of person.

I think so.

I think like the storm chasing thing, yes, that is one of those special categories where it kind of makes sense.

But humans for the most part don't like change.

So a constant change of scenery, I think most people wouldn't actually be comfortable with.

I think it's very much a idealistic.

Thing that you may be daydreaming about like man, what if I could just

the way we were going to

do it the

way we had it figured out in our heads is that Because we homeschooled we had the freedom to do so And to we were gonna actually park somewhere and probably live for two three four months at a time Before

we

moved on because we really when we get into communities We really love to see what it's like to be part of that community not visit that community And then you think about things like you know, especially in certain parts of the country year-round farmers market

and all of those really fun things.

But again, by the time you do all the financing for campers and RVs, it's just not as cheap as everybody thinks.

And it becomes more and like there's way more variables and factors.

Not that home ownership is easy by any stretch of the imagination.

There's a lot of maintenance

to RVs.

Yeah,

there's too much that can go wrong.

Sometimes it's like daily.

Sometimes it's like every other day because you know their tanks were you know holding the poo and the things that happen in the shower aren't exactly

big.

Yeah, see I don't want to deal with all that.

Yeah,

nobody wants to deal with that.

Plus it takes a very special person because well they're tight spaces.

Nobody wants to be claustrophobic at home.

Coming up, we are going to talk about political standards.

Turns out that they don't really carry the same weight that they once did.

When you vote, what's more important?

A candidate's characters or their policy?

We'll talk about that next.

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