Get To Know The Candidates (Hour 2)

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Thank you so much for joining us this morning on the Civic Media Network.

My name is Jamie Martenson.

And good morning.

I'm Brian Nune.

Jamie, it is very exciting.

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Because^?

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than average listeners.

They are, absolutely.

And

yes, I was just buttering you up.

So

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All right.

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Yes.

And go,

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It is.

Because it is very bright and shiny today.

I know it's going to be

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It is.

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Well, that's some of the stuff you need to know, but there is always more.

It's a wake-up call in more ways than one.

Time for some sh** you need to know.

All right, before we get, I already see somebody misspelled their

entry.

It's S-U-N.

S-U-N, not S-O-N.

S-U-N.

I just happened to glance over to

like,

oh no.

And I was gonna say something about that before, but I didn't want to confuse people.

And go,

which one is it?

So I kept my mouth shut

for the first time.

We're on a roll.

I see it come in correctly now.

So we're on a roll.

We're doing good now.

All

right.

It was only one.

It was only

one misspelling, but I don't want that person to

miss out.

I get it.

Sometimes these words are hard.

I totally get it.

I have to double check.

Why are we

using homonyms?

I know, I have to double check myself.

No homonyms.

20 times, I know, I know.

I don't make the words, I just give the

words.

Parker, very excited that I actually used the word homonyms.

I love

homonyms.

That was pretty good.

Homonyms are great.

It's kind of impressed.

Parker, every once in a while, all the synapses fire at once.

Mostly not.

I have, my brain is like an old carburetor.

Sometimes it misfires, and yet sometimes, man, oh man, when it's going, it's like a beautiful

Mustang.

We

got past it for getting your name thing.

So now we're on a roll.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Once I get

that

hour.

Well, listen, things change.

Couple sips of coffee.

There we

go.

A little lively conversation and we move on to stuff you need to know.

This is troubling.

Coming out of Kenosha, multiple posters described as anti-immigrant were discovered around Kenosha this week, prompting concern from community members and local advocacy groups.

A resident who spotted several of the signs reported them to police after finding them posted near busy streets and businesses.

Forward Latino says about 10 of the posters have been found so far and is encouraging residents to report any additional signs that they do happen to see.

The group says the message promotes intimidation, division and fear and is urging the public not to ignore or normalize hateful rhetoric.

our forward Latino says many hate and bias incidents target people because of their appearance, language or accent.

Regardless of their immigration status, we've seen that a lot.

Local law enforcement is investigating and forward Latino says it also has contact to the FBI.

Residents can report hateful messages through the group's reporting system or by calling 833 Latino one that's 833-528-4601.

Come on, Kenosha, you're better than that.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, anytime you see these types of things, it's disgusting.

Because, and it just goes to show the rhetoric does affect people and the fact that when it's coming from all angles, right, people are going to take advantage of being able to say and do these things and it's never, it's never right.

Sure, you're empowered

and

Kenosha has, Kenosha has a past, we all

know that.

Yes.

So.

Call it out, that's all.

You know, report it, call it out and...

Forward Latino doing a lot of work on the immigration front right now and it's been pretty nonstop and endless as we can all imagine.

In other headlines for stuff you need to know, Wisconsin lawmakers approved $7 million to help reduce a waiting list of more than 7,600 people with disabilities who are seeking help finding and keeping jobs.

The Division of Vocational Rehabilitation provides services like job training, career counseling,

and support for employers hiring people with disabilities.

A funding shortfall last year forced the agency to create a waiting list and about 1,000 additional people have been joining the list each month.

The new funding will allow the agency to gradually reduce the backlog.

Officials expecting the waitlist to be eliminated by June of next year.

Lawmakers from both parties agreed the funding was needed, though they disagreed over why it took so long to address the problem.

There's always gotta be a disagreement there.

And whether even more fun.

should have been approved.

Now priority for services will go first to people with the most significant disabilities, followed by those with less severe but still substantial barriers to employment.

I don't even know why this was a discussion.

Give them the money.

Get^?

people who need it, the jobs.

I mean, my goodness, you can't complain.

People don't work and then not make sure that they have the path to do so, right?

I mean,

yeah, but are they the people we want working?

We've got it.

Is that the money we want to spend?

And isn't

that

DEI if we're just giving people jobs because they're disabled?

The stupidity of some of our arguments

is crazy.^?

Yes.^?

All right, listen.

You lunatics.

If you're out riding your ATVs and UTVs in Wisconsin this weekend, which I encourage you, get out.

It is, again, free park weekend, free fun weekend.

Go out, have fun.

But there are new safety rules that took effect on June 1st.

We talked about this before they went into action.

So if you are an ATV or a UTV rider, you must

Wear a seat belt.

All occupants, drivers and passengers when riding in a UTV.

And it's always more fun to ride in a UTV when you don't fly out

of it.

Right.

That's key component to the day.

Yes.

Well, I would think so.

But who am I to tell you what to do?

I'm not the government.

So

the

government is telling you you got to wear

a

seat belt.

Riders under age of 18 must now wear a DOT approved helmet and eye protection is required if the vehicle does not have a windshield.

It's now illegal to tow people behind your ATV or UTV on public roads or trails, though limited exceptions do apply on private property and ice, which sounds really scary.

It's illegal.

New restrictions also limit window tinting on UTVs and create penalties for intentionally damaging ATV or UTV trails and property.

The changes come as Wisconsin continues to see high numbers of ATV and UTV crashes.

Last year, the DNR reported more than 300 crashes, more than 277 injuries in 2025.

Wisconsin recorded 41 ATV-UTV related deaths.

So yes, they're fun.

Yes, you can go fast.

Yes, you can be outside.

Be careful.

That's all.

We're not telling you how to ride them.

Just be careful.

Conservation warnings and local law enforcement agencies are going to enforce the new rules through routine patrols with warnings and citations possible for violations.

Good.

I mean, I think we should have rules.

I mean, obviously, if we're going to do silly, stupid things, like, and it is really fun.

And so when I say silly and stupid, I've actually done this, do the ice and things like that with ATVs

and^?

UTVs.

It is a ton of fun, but it is really silly and stupid.

So do it at your own risk.

But, you know, it's hard for us to learn our lessons.

But if we're going to do these things, we've got to be safe at the same

time.

Every time I'm on an ATV, I get nervous

because I

think I'm going to go too fast and flip

it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it happens,

right?

I like to putter along.

Puttering is usually

best.

I'm a

putter.

Jamie, what's the big story?

Well, the big story is the fact that as we continue to talk about affordable housing and we talk about the lack of housing across the state, Governor Evers is stepping in.

The state is going to award $47.8 million in housing tax credits to developers working on affordable housing projects all across the state.

Now, this funding will support 35 developments in 15 different counties.

So that is really good news because this is a very much estate

a statewide issue right now.

The projects are expected to create or preserve 2,128 affordable housing units in 26 communities, providing housing opportunities for about 5,000 Wisconsin residents.

So that is very good news.

And honestly, here's the thing, it is really good news.

It feels like a dent with everybody who is struggling with affordable housing, but you know what?

A dent is better than... You

gotta start

somewhere.

Yes, exactly.

We can't

wait until the whole...

problem can be fixed at once.

It's compromise.

It is another

another part of our broken record.

It's

compromise.

Well, it's government.

It should be compromised.

I don't know when we got away from that.

But most of the projects are going to be new construction.

Twenty eight of these developments will be built from the ground up.

The remaining projects involve renovating some existing buildings or also converting properties into housing.

Twenty four developments are going to be geared toward families as well, which is going to be a key for part of this because the other projects

will also be designed to meet the needs of seniors, so also taking care of a couple of subsections of the population that are really struggling right now.

Now, these tax credits, Brian, are intended to help developers overcome rising construction costs, the labor shortages, as well as inflation, so that these affordable projects are actually financially feasible, because my family did construction my whole life, right?

And so I remember the conversations about

supplies when there was a recession or there was inflation because then you would have to tack on more to that bid so that you could get that job but you might not get that job then because you were not cutting corners but maybe another guy was to take prices down and it was it was all of this and it is very cutthroat it's not because you don't want to do these projects as as somebody who is a builder it's because you literally can't afford to do so.

You just sometimes can't.

So the fact that this money and this $47.8 million is now in existence for developers, I think this is a great thing for affordability across the board.

Yeah, and we talked about the apartment complex that's going up in Milwaukee the other day, and we have such a housing shortage

here.

and the cost of housing is so high,

so^?

anything we can do to make things a little more affordable.

Yes,

yes.

I'm always...

I'm always on board with

saving a

little money.

And the fact that this is going to be across the state, so it is going to also affect not just your urban areas, but rural communities, small cities, growing suburban areas.

All of those places are also feeling pressure with housing right now.

And to be clear for anybody listening today, this is very good news.

But these programs will not directly subsidize renters.

Instead, developers will receive tax incentives in exchange for agreeing to keep a portion of their units afforded.

for low and moderate income households for at least 30 years.

So it's not even a short-term program, right?

Governor Evers also making sure that this is set up for some long-term success.

Since 1986, Wisconsin Housing and Economic Development Authority has awarded more than $644 million in housing tax credits, creating or preserving more than 61,000 affordable housing rentals across

across the state.

And since 2019, Wisconsin added more than 33,000 housing units aimed for workers, family, seniors, and other residents struggling to find a place to survive.

So the work is being done.

It's just, it's a slow process when you build.

Renovation is always slow.

But this certainly helps those developers get some projects accomplished.

Well, and going back to your point real quick, the fact that it is happening in rural communities

where we're

seeing the population decreases because one, lack of work, people leaving the smaller areas.

So if you're building places...

that someone can afford, maybe those population centers start to build up again.

So it's a good program.

When we come back, oh my gosh, are we going to swipe?

Are we going to stay?

Is Frank going to be curmudgeonly?

So many questions as

we

move in.

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She's Jamie Martin.

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Thank you for joining us this morning on the Civic Media Network.

It is time for Swipe First Day.

We are going to put the politics aside for just a few minutes.

We're going to dive into pop culture, figure out what's going on with the lives of celebrities with our senior producer, Frank.

How are you today?

I am doing well and not curmudgeon.

Well, we'll see.

Just

saying.

The minute we skip one of your stories or swipe

from one of your stories.

I don't get offended when you swipe a story.

It's when you swipe a good story.

Okay, how

do we

know with a lot of stuff in it?

That's a point.

We don't know we have to guess

Let's find out all right.

Let's start.

Let's see.

All right.

Let's let's do a guy

We're just going into it.

Okay Woman proposes banning a certain number in football

I can only imagine what it is.

I'm gonna stay

stay on this one

Any guesses on the number?

69 It is not six six seven

twenty

one.

Sorry

21 21

Tonya Brown the sister of Nicole Brown Simpson

Oh

God is proposing the NFL ban the wearing of OJ Simpsons former number 32 nope Tonya says the number remains deeply tied to trauma for many people connected to the case

She said, it's also the 32nd year of Nicole and Ron's murders.

Every time I see someone on the field with that number, it brings me back and I have trauma.

It's important to note Tanya is not officially organizing a campaign yet, but instead hoping the NFL just takes her wishes into consideration, which we know the NFL is so great at hearing other people out.

So are we supposed if we started banning the numbers of everybody,

right?

I mean OJ's crimes were more serious than just spousal abuse, but allegedly But all right,

we got a lot the other thing

Ray Lewis's number got to go right everybody's number got to go who beats their way Yeah, I'm sorry for their loss obviously

but stop it.

It's a number.

Just don't

watch football then.

Here's the other thing too.

We're also hitting a point in time where there's a whole generation who won't even remember OJ Simpson other than what they've read about the case.

Not so much what's on the field, right?

So there's that.

I mean, I

know his history, I was...

When Frank first said OJ Simpson, I was like, what was his number?

I knew it was

in the

30s because it was a running back, but I was like

Yeah, yeah, I don't know this this one feels like a stretch even though I am sorry for their loss It feels like a bit of a stretch.

I don't believe Roger Goodell is probably going to hear this one out

The people the people directly involved in the case is a dozen at best.

Yeah,

right.

Yeah.

Yeah,

sorry

Yeah,

sorry no sympathy here, and I I read that and I was like, oh you're not actually organizing you're just That's not gonna work that doesn't

work in this world by

Felicia

pop star granted restraining order from stalker.

Oh I'll stay I

Know how much Parker loves pop star stalker story, so

I'm gonna swipe

Um, I was going to swipe anyway before that really strange accusation Brian All

right, we're swiping to

the bit Parker

Marvel actor refuses to host Saturday Night Live.

Oh,

I

saw the headlines of this day

I

want to stay because I like Marvel

and

Saturday night.

Oh now we got Brian's interests.

All right, we will not be seeing

Can we guess which superhero Brian?

Oh Which it's probably a second tier superhero I'll say Jeremy Renner, but

it is not Jeremy Jeremy Renner.

We will not be seeing Tom Holland aka Spider-Man

Spider-Man no

Spider-Man hosting SNL

which

is all right Holland appeared on an episode of Amy Poehler's podcast Good Hang saying he's heavily dyslexic

and is scared to read the cue cards.

He said, for me, I can read fine, but when I have to read out loud, it just becomes like kind of a mental block and I can freeze up.

Or

did he went on to say, yep, he's really lucky that he's been offered the hosting gig multiple times, but it's not for him.

And he's turned it down every single time.

Wow.

Who knew Spiderman was dyslexic?

All right.

Don't you work with him at some point and be like, hey, we'll get you through this.

Like how, like you're an actor.

Yeah, but

if he's that nervous

and

he's whole,

yeah.

I mean, if you're that uncomfortable and I'm going to assume that just going through school as a kid and I'm sure there was a whole lot that went into that.

So I can respect that, right?

Like I can totally respect that.

I respect it.

But he's so talented though, right?

Like you would love to see him in that role for sure.

Yeah, but then I don't want to see him embarrass himself.

And if he's uncomfortable and he's not going to be his best because in the back of his mind, he's always going to be thinking about,

you know.

Yeah.

And you know, his agents like, oh, they really want you to do this.

I really wish you would do this.

And then after if something goes wrong, I told you not to do this.

I

told you,

you

should have done

that.

But your

career kid.

Kudos to him for knowing his limitations and being honest about

it.

Right.

Artist helps push Vermont Bill into law.

Oh.

I'll stay.

And syrup law, I don't care.

Swipe.^?

Syrup^?

law.

I'll stay.

Parker's staying.

Noah Kahn has shot in the Superstardom as of late and helped get a bill passed in his home state of Vermont.

Kahn testified earlier this year before the Vermont State Senate to support bill H512, which aims to crack down on predatory resale practice and ticket

scalping.

No, sir, at all.

No.

Con said as an artist that cares deeply about the fan experience and accessibility of concert tickets, this bill is a critical step in eliminating predatory resale behaviors and offer Vermonters a great solution for exchanging and reselling tickets on a safe marketplace.

The new law was officially approved by Vermont Governor Phil Scott last week.

The legislation caps Vermont's tickets at resale prices at 110 percent.

of their original value for concerts, sporting events, and other live entertainment.

Now, this is great coming from a guy whose ticket prices right now on resale market are insane.

Are they?

You guys will be proud of me.

The

cheapest ticket.

I just started listening to him.

Ryan, cheapest ticket at Wrigley Field, $450.

That's

Wrigley Field just gouging everybody.

That's

everywhere.

Don't like

it.

Don't like it at

all.

All right.

Thank you, Frank.

Yes.

Oh, new music, new everything.

We are going to come back.

And when we do, we're going to play gubernatorial match game.

What?

I don't know.

We'll figure it out.

It's daybreak

on the Civic Media Network.

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Thank you for joining us this morning on the Civic Media Network.

Brian, we are still taking qualifiers for at least 25 more minutes.

plenty of time.

That's right.

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I've been to Wisconsin Dells quite a few times.

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Not with a prize package,

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Some really great motels and resorts too.

Plus, every entry is going to put you into our grand prize drawing for $250 in gas and another $250 in groceries.

We have text still rolling in.

But we have to give the word again, right?

All right.

Well, the word for this hour is son.

S-U-N.

Son.

How do

you

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It is time for a brand new game.

I don't understand it.

It's called gubernatorial match game.

So, Frank, please explain.

It's super easy.

So, as you know, we have our field of candidates, right?

Yes.

To be the next governor of

Wisconsin.

One

Republican in eight Democrats.

They had to get their 200, 2000 signatures in

Monday or Tuesday, it's been a long week, and some of them are still being verified, but it looks like if you're watching on the stream, this will be our pool of candidates, especially as we go into the primary season on August 11th.

So are we, what are we doing here today?

So here's how this game is going to work.

I'm going to read a statement that represents a candidate.

Okay.

Jamie and Brian will be playing against each other.

You both get a guess.

Okay.^?

Okay.

One candidate could be named more than once.

Okay.^?

All right.^?

Throughout the game.

Throughout the game.

Okay.^?

All right.^?

All right.^?

We'll see.

I'm not saying they are, but they could be.

Now, where is your Gene Rayburn style really skinny microphone?

You know, it wasn't in the budget for this year.

Right

next

year.

It's at the top of my list.

Maybe for the generals.

We also need those curtains that you come out from.

Right.

I need a lot of things.

OK,

all right.

Nice leisure suit.

She walks out of the drapes from his window.

Big, big, wide tie.

All of it.

OK.

All of it.

All right.

Crazy.

All right.

So the person with the most points wins the game.

All right.

OK.

We're going to.

OK.

We ready?

We're

ready.

All right, let's do this.

Let's get to know our candidates.

All right, this candidate is a former CDC intelligence officer that was on the first plane into New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

Oh,

gosh.

I'm starting off hard.

I'm going to say because of the nursing background, this is where my head goes, Sarah Rodriguez.

Ryan.

Who is Mandela Barnes?

Jamie gets the point.

It is Sarah Rodriguez.

I

had no idea.

Interesting background.

OK.

This is directly from her website.

I thought it was a really interesting fact.

It is very interesting.

That was just sheer guess and using just her background on that one.

OK.

So right now, Jamie's winning our gubernatorial match game.

Oh my gosh.

One point to nothing.

Brian's got nothing on the board.

But it's OK.

How many do I have, Frank?

We're early.

We're early.

Zero.

We're so

early

in this

game.

Zero point

zero.

Why do I think that curmudgeonly comment is coming?

I don't know what you're talking about.

Go ahead.

We've only gotten to question number two.

All right, here we

go.

Here's an addictive game show host.

We've talked about this one.

This one may be a little bit easier than the first one.

Okay.

Which candidates scored a big endorsement from the Wisconsin Education Association Council?

I know this one.

All right, you go first.

Kelderoy's.

It is Kelderoy's.

That's my guess too.

It is Kelderoy's.

We act president Peggy Wurz Olson.

said Senator Kelder Royce is a leader who has done her homework on solutions to the school funding crisis, and she has a broad deep base of knowledge and labor in Wisconsin public education.

She has a great track record of collaboration and responsiveness, and she has proven that she wants to listen, learn, and partner with public school professionals.

That was a big endorsement when that came out.

Huge endorsement.

I know we've talked about it a couple times.

It came out a

while ago.

That endorsement came out a

couple months ago now.

Yeah.

March.

Were you surprised how early that endorsement came in the race?

I was, because those usually take a little bit longer, especially with a field this crowded.

Right, especially on the Democratic side.

So I personally was.

I don't, Brian,

except that she's had such a, she's had, she had a tracker, a big tracker like a lot of them do.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Okay.

All right.

After two, Jamie has all two points.

Brian is on the board with one.

So congratulations to Brian.

He did not get shot out.

He was very early at the game.

I knew he'd get

points.

It's a second question.

I know and I'm giving you your props.

Are you?

Look, this isn't about winning or losing, Brian.

It's about meeting our candidates.

It is.

It's about knowing who they are, because there's a lot of them.

If it's not about winning or losing, why are you keeping such strenuous score?

Because I enjoy it.

I know.

Let's go, number three.

This candidate ran the largest science museum in the state, Discovery World in Milwaukee, for 11 years.

Oh.

That's new.

I'm going to say...

I'm going to say Joel Brennan just as a guess.

I have no idea.

That's who I was going to say too, so I will say it.

It is Joel Brennan.

One little thing on his website as I'm looking through policies and whatnot.

His big thing is most people aren't asking for miracles.

They want to afford where they live, send their kids to a good school, and have a governor who will fight back when Trump threatens our way of life.

I like that.

All right, I like that.

Joe

Brennan doesn't make a lot of headlines.

We don't hear too much about him.

That's what kind of gave me the income.

about the because I was like, I don't know too much.

He's been he's a little bit more in the background.

So no, that's an interesting fact that this is interesting.

Like we are actually learning a lot

about learning.

I love this.

OK.

And yes, for everybody out there listening, we have not had Joel Brennan on.

We have reached out to his camp.

So we do hope he does join us at some point in the show.

Yeah, we'd love^?

to.

All right.

Jamie's leading three points to two as we move on.

And if you're just listening, we're playing the gubernatorial match game where I'm reading statements that identify some of these candidates.

Brian and Jamie are competing to see who gets the most points in matches.

Number four, which candidate served as the dam tender on the Willow Flowage for 29

years?

Earning him the nickname of the

damn man.

Tom Tiffany.

I saw that commercial on TV the other day and went,

oh,^?

wow.

He's

a^?

damn

man.

Oh,

Tommy Tiff now.

He's very much leaning into phrases such as law and order, conservative values and common sense laws.

If you're looking at the candidates that those three things basically sum up Tom Tiffany's stances and he's the damn man.

He is the damn man.

He is the damn man.

And he

loves the current president.

He is the only he is the person endorsed by President Donald

Trump.^?

Yes.^?

Yes.

Moving on.

This candidate is known for their Badger basics plan.

Oh, David Crowley.^?

David Crowley, yeah.^?

He joined us^?

to talk about this,

right?^?

He did.

We love

David.

We had a couple of technical issues with his audio.

We did.

But correct me if I'm wrong, he did tell us that he hates the Chicago Bears the most as well.

He did.^?

He did.^?

He did.^?

And^?

you can listen to that.

Go back and listen to that interview on Spotify.

Yes, please do.^?

Just^?

a quick preview, David Crawley says, affordability, care and opportunity are the three pillars of Badger Basics.

And David Crawley,

he dives deeper into it.

And David Crawley is a

guy who ended up meeting the affordable housing as a kid and really came up through the ranks of not having a lot.

So he kind of gets what families are struggling with, has three daughters of his own as well.

Fun guy to talk to.

He is.

He's a good guy.

These are all great candidates.

That's

a bad part

about this field,

right?

Is they're all sensational candidates.

They're all really great people, and they're really laying out some great plans for Wisconsin.

So this is why I'm assuming you decided to play gubernatorial candidate because we do have so many choices, Frank.

Well, and the other thing that I've noticed with the Democrats, when I'm getting all these statements together, a lot of these are interesting facts because I think most of them are on the same page.

of the issues they want to tackle.

So there's really no like.

Yeah.^?

Issue that really separates them, which is why I think this race is going to be actually pretty tight.

Yeah.

And it'll be interesting when Marquette does their polling.

I know we talked earlier today about the about the president's approval rating and that new poll that came out.

They haven't done another one for the gubernatorial race.

So it is going to be fascinating to see if that race is tightened if.

people are less on the fence than they were just a few months ago.

So now that we're getting closer to the primary.

And maybe after gubernatorial match game, some people changed their mind.

Right.

Right.

I know.

Joel Brennan ran a science museum.

The

largest

in the state.

He's my guy.

Have you

noticed that since I got on the board a lot, Frank has dropped the scoring?

Jamie is in the lead right now with five points.

Brian close behind with four.

He's only down one.

He's got a couple of questions left.

This is

very even.^?

This is good.^?

Which candidate announced their candidacy while carrying their father's auto union workers jacket?

Oh,^?

I'm going to say Mandela.

But that's

a

guess.

Jamie is right.

It is former Lieutenant Governor Mandela Barnes.

That was some drawn

out

suspense there.

You guys have been neck and neck.

We have most of these questions, but.

Jamie takes a commanding lead.

It's

a good old fashioned shellacking.

It is.

Man, we've got quite a tilt here.

Mandela

is very much focusing on workers' rights, wanting to expand apprenticeship programs and trade schools to ensure that when companies invest in Wisconsin, they're employing Wisconsinites.

All right.

And again, that's why his dad's jacket, his roots are deep, deep into that.