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Jamie, working right up until the intro started.
Everything all right?
You
bunch of emails I had to answer.
Here's the problem with this connecting early in the evening to go take the dog for a walk.
You miss out on stuff and then you realize when you get up and you open everything up that there was stuff that you probably should have handled the night before or there was news that you probably should have kept an eye on and you know it happens to the best of us but sometimes you just got to put your phone down for a little
Yeah, I could start doing play-by-play if you want.
All right, you could take
two to like
Okay, I like
and then
22-hour day, that's not awful.
That's
Sick.
I
up with everything and it and also I I do it like by by seven thirty eight o'clock that's the end of the day we've been we've been up since four you know it's like okay people need to I think all of us not just not just us you and me everybody but everybody needs to take time and say you know what work is great right but in the at the end of the day
We're all we're all replacement.
Yes, and you have to have a life and you have to get some rest.
Yes.
But a lot of times, if it's, you know, before 10 o'clock and it comes into my head, it's one of those things where I need to write it.
Because I also know that other people
will check their email like me when they have time, right?
And if it's really, really important, I'm gonna wait till the next day because I probably need an immediate answer.
If it's just something that I can send out and I'm like, hmm, I need you to kind of ponder this or let's connect on this a little bit later on, then I'll usually send it out.
But that's usually because it's not a rush thing, right?
Like I know that they can, they can
So if it's really,
important.
I'm going to wait until the next day.
If it's somewhat that, you know, I know we need to connect on something, but it's it's a little bit more leisurely.
I'll send those out whenever.
If it's something that I need a response on, but I know that there's a more appropriate time for somebody to get it in their inbox and I schedule things.
So it really just depends on my grade in my head of the importance of the email.
These were some things that that came in last night that I needed to handle for later this morning before like
noon today.
But now they're handled.
So we're good.
You
think about these things, though, all the time, especially when I have conversation with friends or when we're talking about our work-life balance.
And here's what I've learned.
I also have friends who live in Europe.
I have a really great friend going all the way back to high school who's been living in Scotland now for, I don't know,
about the
her work-life balance, the fact that they untether and they have this, they'll just be like, nope, we're done for the day.
They're so much better at it in countries that are not the United States.
And they really are good at it in a lot of, especially in Europe.
They're really good at just being like, nope, you know, they do a lot of four-day weeks in some of those countries in Europe.
not have to
I don't really love grocery shopping, but the other day I said to Corey, because we do a lot of delivery to our house because of our schedule.
And I said to Corey the other day, I said, you know what I kind of miss?
And I thought he, like I literally thought he was going to have the big one, right?
Because I looked at him and I
said,
store, getting my
Yeah,
it feels normal to be in the store and do things that other people are doing and not have my groceries delivered and I will never complain about delivery service and I will never complain about having to tip because I am
one of those people who is so appreciative of the actual service.
But yeah, he did.
He had the Red Fox moment, right?
Like where he's like,
I'm going to have the big one.
Because I'm
Well, yeah, you can disengage from everything else because you're focused on getting through the store quickly.
Avoiding people.
Getting around the people who are draped over the cart like they had their spines removed on the way in.
people who put their cart crossways across the aisle and are completely oblivious that there's other people.
Yeah, the screaming kids.
Can I add one more beef to that list?
The people who walk on the side of their cart.
But if everything is in the same aisle on the same side, and I'm just literally going down grabbing it and putting it in, I'll walk by the side of my cart to do that, but I won't do it if it's normally, right?
I have multiple things in a row that I can just grab
Why are you stopped in the middle?
Because now you're holding it up for everybody.
And so if you're doing the side on the cart thing and you're pushing, now you're taking up two lanes.
You're essentially taking up both lanes of traffic.
So you would be annoyed at a driver doing that in the car.
So please don't do it the store.
But those, the breaths are very short.
They're wrapped in succession.
I don't take a deep in cleansing breath.
It's like, come on, just remember there's other people.
And then, all right, I've been.
Got to get this out.
Okay, please.
No, but everybody everybody can get everybody can I think Feel for me and you've had these experience where people just ask you dumb questions just really stupid questions and I want to lose my mind So I've told you I move this week.
I'm moving
my
How is that
feels like home
yeah
yes
it doesn't matter moving moving is awful well now uh you know because i'm doing most of the most of the logistical stuff debbie and i are handling i get a call from my aunt the other day after i told her that my mom was moving
I just want to know, are they going to be giving her medicine at the new place?
I was, I had to pause and I had to go, all right, remember this woman is also 80.
Relax.
Okay, all right.
Yeah, of course they're gonna give her her medicine.
Well, I'm just asking, will they be taking...
I said, they're going to do it.
Why don't you just ask me if they're going to feed her there, too?
Or if they have indoor plumbing.
Will you have to go out in the field to take a dump?
No, she's going to be fine.
I'm like, just.
What do you think?
What do you honestly think I'm gonna take her somewhere just like leave her in a closet like Harry Potter?
Just get in line.
But are they going to give her her medicine?
What?
Yes, yes, yes.
So just for the record, in case anybody from, you know, some government department is listening.
Yes, my mom's going to be getting all her medicine.
She's going to be very well taken care of.
She's going
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A lot to get to today, but we've been seeing the footage over the last few days of protesting New Jersey outside of Delaney Hall, which is where they have been.
holding ice detainees.
There have been complaints about inhumane conditions.
There have been complaints about hunger strikes, all kind of things.
Well, New Jersey has filed a lawsuit against GEO Group, that's the private company that operates the Delaney Hall Immigration Detention Center in Newark, seeking a court order that would allow state health officials to conduct a full inspection of the facility, which it surprises me that that's not already a thing.
You would think any
business licensed in a state that houses human beings would be under some sort of oversight from the state authorities.
My mom not being an entertaining.
She's not living in inhumane conditions.
Anyway, so the detainees and advocates alleged unsanitary conditions, inadequate medical care, spoiled food, psychological mistreatment.
Some detainees reportedly launched a hunger strike to protect protest conditions inside the center.
State officials say they were only allowed to inspect limited areas of the facilities such as food service operations and were denied broader access needed to evaluate health and safety concerns.
That should be a monumental red
flag right yeah I also I also don't like this idea of privatizing jails and privatizing these detention centers because once you're paid what obviously there is no oversight right we're hoping New Jersey can get some sort of
figure out what's going on in there.
Well, and that's just it.
But I mean, with the privatization of some of these facilities, this has been a dream of the Republican Party for as long as I can remember.
They like the privatization.
And I'm not going to say that there's not some Democrats who haven't been on that bandwagon as well.
But it really, I think, deters how much control
the state has, I think it deters how much the federal government has, and then you end up with issues like we're seeing in New Jersey.
And by the way, this isn't new.
This is exactly the same MO that we've been watching happen across the country with these facilities, right?
Whether they're privatized, whether they're not, it's the exact same thing.
And so, I mean, I'll give New Jersey some credit here because they've been watching what's been happening across the country, and they're not backing down.
I mean, they're-
Not and I can appreciate that because the more that these facilities come under fire whether they are state facilities whether they're federal facilities whether they're private facilities and the more the federal government tries to interfere with these facilities
the more that these states are able to draw up their own playbooks as to what's been happening across the country.
And New Jersey is, obviously they've taken some notes, right?
They're like,
we're going to,
this
mentality on one side of the aisle that these people who are being held there are the worst of the worst even though we're finding a lot or not not even not even close to being able to see the worst of the worst but there's no incentive for them to treat
these people humanely if they're not if there's no government oversight they're not going to as long as they're getting their checks they're going to just do the bare minimum uh it's basically you're warehousing people
you're not
medical
I mean, think about what that is like in that facility and what that is doing to the people.
And you gotta imagine, and here's the other thing that I always go back to, it doesn't matter if it's adults or not, but you think about the effect that this is gonna also have on kids that are being held in this facility.
I mean, I don't understand.
I understand that if you are, you are a legal immigrant and you need to be detained in a facility, but these are still human beings who have rights and they're still human beings who deserve some actual comforts and, you know, food and the medicine and all of that going back to that previous conversation.
All of it.
Imagine how you...
Right.
You know how crowded it is at, uh, when you go to a baseball game and you need to go to the bat.
That's why people run up the aisle at between innings.
Right.
Now imagine that just in a more cramped spot with a thousand people.
Right.
And I'm sure they didn't budget in extensive bathroom facilities.
I'm sure it's just
whatever,
it
right
these are treated.
And I don't have to apologize.
I know most of our listeners know that everybody believes the immigration system needs to be fixed.
But that doesn't mean that while you're fixing it, you treat the people that are being caught up like they're animals or even worse.
No, in Newark itself is sometimes you if you've been in Newark, you know, it feels like you're being detained somewhere unsanitary.
But that's, you know, that's just you choose to be in Newark.
All right, when we come back, Portage Schools are going to put mental health at the forefront.
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Very important in Portage because the Portage Community School District is planning to create an in-house clinic offering mental health support to students at school.
The new grant is going to help the district provide a centralized location, quick access, and an open door to students who need help finding treatment.
Studies show the rural districts face challenges in addressing student mental health because they typically have fewer resources and less access to experts and funding for students.
That, according to Steve Goldberg of the WEA Member Benefits Foundation, that's a charity focused on schools.
They awarded Portage $41,000 to help organize the clinic, train teachers, and offer counseling sessions on campus.
They say, according to the head of the Portage School District, she said mental health is a
priority for us.
So that district serves about 2100 students from kindergarten through 12th grade and they're seeing an uptick which is it's a shame a big uptick in anxiety and all sorts of mental health issues and yes I know they they they use COVID as a thing that it's gotten worse since COVID and I did see
A lot more kids with it, they like to say big feelings.
A
A lot of big feelings.
Honestly, if you're listening to this this morning and you have a kid in K through 12 and I obviously don't want to dismiss college students either because the mental health services are very important for them too, I think this is a good thing, right?
Because there's so many families out there that as we talk about the health care and the state of trying to even get resources at this point,
The fact that these schools are stepping up and saying, you know what?
We want to take care of these kids.
We want to help them.
And these kids have a place to go where they feel like they can be heard.
They can get the help they need if they feel like they're struggling or teachers notice that they're struggling.
That's
always
We've, you know, and I've talked about this, both of my boys have dealt with mental health issues.
They have, my younger son has de-habilitating anxiety.
It took about two years for him to really accept the fact
that he had anxiety.
It took him about two years for him to accept the fact that he was probably going to need medicine for that for the rest of his life.
And it took two years of his life because he literally went leave the house and he woke up every day.
uh, wanting nothing more than to not be in this world.
My older son, we had, uh, we had issues with him as well, where he literally tried to take his own life at one point.
And it was simply because, and we, and we were present.
Let me tell you, we were there with them every single day, but it was just things inside of them that they felt like they couldn't get out or that, that they felt guilty about when there was no guilt or shame that should have been involved.
So the fact that, uh, these schools are able to offer this.
service and because we were lucky our insurance covered the mental health care that both of my our boys needed and our older one in fact just the other day about three weeks ago four weeks ago he said to me goes you know I have a counselor again right a therapist I said no but thank you for recognizing that you needed one as a 22 year old adult
Well, and the the issue isn't always with the teachers or the schools and I was very disheartened to see this a number of times when we had kids who definitely had issues and Parents wouldn't when the social workers would Suggest or the teachers the teachers would talk to the social workers in the admin and we'd all come to a conclusion Okay, and the parents would come in and we'd say this is what's going on and we would suggest that they get some sort of therapy and there's
There's agencies that do it for free.
Even if you don't, because we were in a pretty financially strapped district.
But there were parents who just wouldn't do it.
And some of it's cultural,
some of
When our older one told us that he tried to take his own life, we were like,
we're here with you every day, right?
You were still living in our house.
How did we miss these signs?
And then as a parent, there's this immense amount of guilt that you feel because you're like, oh my gosh, my kid's been struggling and life is hard enough as it is that as a parent, you aren't able to recognize those things because when he was with us, he was quiet, but we thought it's because he was trying to contemplate life.
He had taken a year off from school.
His
plans
were like, OK, well, maybe he's just he's a very introspective person anyway.
And so we had noticed that he was quiet, but not acting any different.
He was getting up.
He was going to work.
He was he was doing his thing.
He was, you know, gaming with his friends.
He was going out with his friends who lived in the area.
And then all of a sudden one night Corey came home.
It was about 1 a.m.
He'd come home from the station in Baraboo and here was our kid running by the side of the road at 1 a.m.
In the cold in the dark with his headphones on and it just was this thing and it expounded in the garage with dad and kid and crying and and all of it came out at one time and of course at the point that time he's 18 years old so as a parent Your hands are kind of tied because they're legally
adults, right?
So it had to be him who had to make those calls to set up those appointments and we did it with him every step of the way.
But you do.
You're right.
It's an immense amount of guilt and you do feel like you have to justify it because you're
of people
A number of us are on medication.
There's a lot.
But back then, you shut up, you sucked it up, you put your head down and just kept going.
And that's what I try to tell Molly, I try to tell younger people.
I go, don't wait, don't wait till you're old to finally get help because you waste a lot of time and it's scary.
But according to DPI, nearly 60%
of
Wisconsin high school students report experiencing one mental health challenge, either anxiety, depression, emotional distress.
State surveys found about 52% of students report anxiety.
I would venture a guess.
And again, this is just a theory.
But these numbers are probably the same as numbers were when I was in high school, but nobody talked about it.
So thank goodness that now we're more open about it and we realize
Yeah, there are mental difficulties and people have mental illnesses and it's not a character flaw.
Just like we don't look at other things as a character flaw.
If you have cancer, we don't go, oh man, I got cancer.
No, we treat it.
And so now kids are open about it.
And just like kids do, there's kids who will escalate it and exaggerate it.
But the majority of kids who
you can tell or they finally open up to you.
It's legit.
It's serious.
It is needs to be addressed.
And since kids spend a lot of time in school, that's a good place to start.
And if if
Portage and that because portage is not the only district where they're seeing these kind of numbers, right?
A lot of rural districts a lot of districts all over the state all over the country are going through the same thing Portage is just being proactive.
They thankfully got this grant and I hope now as it goes forward It can be used as an example for other districts around the state to go.
Oh, all right.
This isn't just
And I mean, there's other districts, big districts like Madison, Milwaukee and Eau Claire that already partner with healthcare providers to offer on-campus counseling therapy and then some behavioral health services as well, which then help students and they also help those students that access care without ever leaving school.
What I think too is an important discussion right now is the fact that for a lot of families, this is the medical resource, right?
There are actually schools in this state
that are partnering with hospital facilities and putting clinics in their hospitals so that students have some kind of healthcare as well.
Which is a, I think it's great, but it also speaks of the sad state that we're in with our healthcare, our mental healthcare in this country that schools are actually recognizing this and being like, you know,
We're a resource for these kids and we're going to have to help provide some of this.
And, granted, when we're talking
the
clinics, it's minor things, like illnesses, fevers, all of that, but the fact that these even exist so that our students and our families who have students at those schools feel like they can get their students taken care of.
I mean, I think it's a sad state when that is the source of healthcare for a lot of
I think it's horrible.
for on a lot of levels but I also think I don't know I wonder how many even if even if there was mental health care on your insurance say mm-hmm I wonder how many people would still access it I like that it's in schools because the teachers and administrators and social workers they see these kids all the time yes and kids
You know this, I know this.
Kids can be a lot different at school than they are at home.
Yes.
And vice versa.
And their parents who think their kids, oh, everything's rosy all the time.
I also love too when you talk about the mental health care is that it doesn't even necessarily need to be for the anxiety, the depression, suicidal thoughts.
I mean, some kids just put a lot of pressure on themselves and sometimes they just need to have somebody to bet to.
I was one of those kids, right?
Like in high school.
was
She was about our age.
She was also an overachiever.
And she became, she's still a very good friend of mine because we were very close in age, right?
And when I was a sophomore, she was only two years out of college.
So we were fairly close in age.
She was that person for me.
And because we were such a small school, I graduated with 18 in my class because South Dakota
rural
it
But she was that person for a lot of us because she had smaller classes.
She knew us very, very well because all of the classes were small in our particular high school.
So she could recognize those things in us right away.
So she was that person.
But it doesn't even need to be for big things.
And your point about insurance, if you are a parent and you are recognizing that your kid is
may be struggling.
I will say this as somebody who's gone through this.
sit on the phone.
I know it's hard.
I know you don't always want to sit on the phone on hold waiting for insurance.
See what they will actually cover because
for
literally a
it.
But
And if you don't have it, there's county programs, there's state programs, there's ways to, there's ways to avail yourself.
of those kind of services.
So do it.
Well, we've got an artist who is suing FIFA.
You know, the World Cup, folks.
Yes, Art versus Soccer in court.
Why?
We'll tell you about it.
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This story hits close to home.
One, because I am not a huge football fan with FIFA.
But that's beside the point.
Wyland is, if you don't know Wyland, he's a Hawaiian artist and he does a lot of whales and dolphins and seascapes and it's beautiful stuff.
He paints, he sculpts, it's just gorgeous and he's been known for murals all around and there used to be a beautiful whale mural in Chicago and as you drove up Lakeshore Drive you could see it on the side of the building and then
progress came.
And by progress, I mean, we got to put up more buildings, and it blocked the mural.
So now, in downtown Dallas, there was a mural of life-size swimming whales.
Well, Weiland has filed a $25 million lawsuit against soccer's international governing body and others saying that they illegally painted over it to promote the World Cup matches.
Wow, so not only did they, it's not blocked because of construction, they chose to paint over a piece of public art.
or commerce.
We got to tell people to come and buy overpriced FIFA World Cup tickets.
We got to get it.
We got to get them in.
footballers life.
Now, and I'm sure, you know, I'm sure football soccer, let's call it soccer.
And if you're gonna if you're gonna be a purist and call me up and say it's football, I know it's football, but we talk football here.
Yeah, we talk soccer.
So that's that's the way it is.
Anyway, so yeah, let's get let's really monetize this World Cup soccer thing.
And let's paint over art.
And I'm
I don't know.
I did not see the mural.
I don't know how weathered it is after
30
It is pretty incredible.
But the area's World Cup organizing committee put out a statement and said that in place of Weiland's mural, new artwork is planned that, quote, captures this current historical moment and reflects the energy, unity, and global spirit surrounding
the World Cup 2026.
Also going on to say that a portion of the mural would be preserved.
Well, it doesn't sound like a portion of the mural has been preserved
even
And he now is seeking $25 million in damages
and says the lawsuit says that the soccer's governing body, FIFA and other defendants, hastily and you're a vet, I can't even say the word this morning, you're a vocably, there we go, destroyed a civic landmark to promote the World Cup.
I just
And there is a law that was passed, a federal law, to protect visual artists from destruction or publicly displayed work.
So if you do a mural, and they don't, it's not like he showed up and did this mural 30 years ago without any consent from the city.
They knew it was happening.
They probably commissioned it.
So they've got this.
Well, that's protected.
You can't just paint over it.
And even if after 30 years, you take it for granted, right?
You've driven by it a million times.
If you live in the Dallas area, you see
all the
I mean to me some of the best communities and some of the biggest events that I've ever been to actually celebrate What's already there with combining it with with the that particular event or future or whatever?
I don't know why we always have to just automatically destroy things that have been there for
and it
the
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