You're listening to Civic Media.
You can tune into any of our live shows on any radio station across the state with the Civic Media app.
Find us in your phone's app store and listen anytime, anywhere.
This is Where Wisconsin Wakes Up.
It's Daybreak with Brian Noonan and Jamie Martinson.
Here are your hosts, Brian and Jamie.
It's amazing in modern day culture golf is like the one sport where they still and I get it the clubs are lighter They've been able to do a lot of things But it's still the one sport where you haven't been able to make a ton of advancements in equipment right for obvious reasons But you know at some point you think they would be able to figure out how to make lighter bags
She says, my extreme dislike of golf started when hundreds of golf balls fell on my head when I worked for FedEx and I had
to read golf courses on my route.
Yeah, no, that doesn't sound fun.
That doesn't sound fun.
So I have to ask, though, Frank, how was the day on the course for you personally?
Yeah.
I don't want to spend my day doing something that.
I have no enjoyment of, because I golfed for, you know, I cadded and I would golf occasionally.
And I finally got rid of my clubs last year.
Did you really?
Wow.
Well, one, they were like 30 years old.
So they were not, they were bad.
Plus they were too short for me.
They're just the whole thing.
And I was like, I'm not going golfing anymore.
It's a lot of effort.
It's not a thing that I desired to be good at.
Um, but I thought I should be, I just wanted to be average.
I didn't want to be good.
I just wanted to be like not embarrassing and it was embarrassing.
So average is tough to attain.
Well, even okay is, you know, still tough to attain.
Right.
I don't have time to attain something I don't want to attain.
I don't have no desire.
I do look good in the crazy shorts, though.
I admire the wardrobes of some golfers.
I like the culture of hanging out in the clubhouse afterward.
I enjoy a nice day out in nature, but there's so many other things I would rather do outdoors than golf.
Problem for golf is I do it once a year and sometimes play better than friends who have played for years.
It's yuppie golf, in my opinion, and then changing that saying yuppie darts.
So there we go.
Thank you very much for the comment this morning, John.
Golf was just never one of those things I got into.
I had friends on golf teams.
My husband's cousin has girls, three daughters who all went to college on golf scholarships.
So it's like, you know, when you've got that, they compete, you know, at their, in college.
And so when
No, no, no, that's exactly.
So those are usually the people I play with because those are the people in our, you know, orbit who really love, no, no, just not.
I'll drive the car, I'll.
pretend that I'm your caddy for the day, except I'm not lifting your clubs.
That's about the extent of my golf experience.
And I can have
Network.
You're listening to Civic Media.
Stay up to date on the latest news and information for your local community and Wisconsin by signing up for our free email newsletter.
Visit civicmedia.us slash email to get started.
Lake Superior to Lake Michigan.
This is Wisconsin's Morning Conversation.
Daybreak with Brian and Jamie.
I'm Brian Noonan.
Glad you're with us.
If you want to get ahold of us throughout the morning, 855-755-CIVIC 855-752-4842.
We've been talking about, you know, as much rain as the central part of Wisconsin got over the last couple months.
The northern part up in the north woods, not so much rain.
very of a lot of drought conditions.
And this story used the term flash drought and all I could think of was watching a stream rolling along and then all of a sudden all the
water being
I
But it is so the National Weather Service is getting nervous and they're warning about flash droughts across parts of the upper Midwest, including Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa and the Dakotas.
A flash drought is
a drought that develops very quickly, often caused by a combination of below normal rainfall, unusually high temperatures, strong winds and soil conditions.
So my crazy theory is not far off of what a flash drought actually is.
But unlike traditional droughts that are built over months, flash droughts can develop in just a few weeks, quickly stress crops, livestock, waterways and water supplies.
So starting from they're saying June.
Yeah, like next week.
Coming up this weekend.
Yeah.
Could be flash droughting around here.
And it's funny because the other day I was outside and I was looking at our yard and I was like, huh, this went from a lush green spread very, very quickly to very brown, dry, very brittle.
And we haven't had to mow in a few, like about a week and a half now, which for our yard, since our landlord likes his fertilizer and have it done frequently, is pretty rare.
And if you look around right now,
it is really dry in portions of the state.
Areas in Southwest Wisconsin included in this region of flash droughts, elevated risk for rapid drought development.
So if you're somebody who lives in those rural areas and you're worried about farming or just outdoor recreation, it's gonna be an interesting next couple of weeks for sure with the warmer
they're
still
I'm like, how much water do we, how much rain do we actually need?
But I know I understand I am not a farmer and farmers need a lot more water than my lawn does.
But you're right, you can usually, that's how you can tell it's dry.
And I don't water my lawn or anything.
God water my lawn.
Exactly.
I'm not paying extra.
So, but yes, when the lawn starts, you go, Oh,
I didn't have to mow this week and it looks the same.
Oh, it's not quite as green.
It's not really
I
times
But really at this point, I worry most about the farmers.
They've already got all of these rising costs with the diesel fuels.
We've talked about the fertilizer costs on them going up.
And now we're talking about the fact that there's a flash drought.
And by the way, I just love the term.
I, this was the first
I guess, too, one of the things that I would start cautioning people is, obviously, we don't have any warnings out.
But as, you know, camping season heats up, people start getting outside a little bit more.
If we're talking about flash droughts across certain portions of the state, including the northern half that's just
been in a drought for a while.
As you rightly pointed out, Brian, you're going to want to be a little careful doing all of those outdoor recreational activities and the fires and camping and all of
And
would be days
All facts, no fiction.
It's Daybreak with Brian and Jamie.
It's all going to start after you'll get your first word after seven o'clock and then you have a chance to win great prizes every day and then a big grand.
So, be listening and we will tell you what word to text.
So, if you haven't gotten your Civic Media app yet, I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.
I can't believe you.
You're gonna be
You will be given your first word, like I said, after seven o'clock.
Very, very exciting.
Okay, should we
should communities be allowed to set curfews in order to restrict protests if they say public safety becomes a concern.
855-752-4842 that's 855-755 Civic.
Love to hear from you because if you've been watching the news over the weekend you've seen this footage coming out of Newark, New Jersey and it is it has been just
crazy watching these protesters outside the ice facilities while Newark has imposed a nightly curfew around the Delaney Hall ice detention facility.
That's after several days of these protests, clashes between demonstrators and the police, curfew runs from 9 to 6, 9 p.m.
to 6 a.m.
and will remain in effect until further notice.
The mayor of Newark said that the decision was made because of escalating tensions, multiple arrests and reports that some people at the protest were found carrying weapons.
So Delaney Hall has become the focus of all these demonstrations over allegations of poor conditions inside the detention center.
But the clashes is not an overstatement for this, for the footage that we're seeing coming out of there.
It is, it is... Verging on violent, I guess.
You could, I would say violent, but that it's not a full blown
I think this one has probably got the potential to grow, which is why Newark as well as New Jersey Governor Mikey Sherrill is trying to
put a stop and kind of quiet things before it gets any worse.
But attorneys representing detainees say these tensions have increased because hundreds of the detainees reportedly participated in a hunger strike.
They were complaining of spoiled food and the living conditions at Delaney Hall.
The Department of Homeland Security disputes that a hunger strike actually occurred.
So then you get protesters involved.
And actually New Jersey Governor Mikey Cheryl did address the media yesterday.
discussed the ongoing controversy and months-long concerns surrounding conditions at the Delaney Hall Ice Detention Facility in Newark.
Here's what she had to say.
For months, hundreds of people, members of our communities, including people with no criminal charges against them and who are in this country legally, many married to US citizens, have been held at a private for-profit detention center in Newark.
For months, there have been peaceful protests outside, as members of our congressional delegation, families, advocates, and faith leaders have all tried to ensure that those detainees, especially the most vulnerable, have their basic needs met, due process is followed, and we live up to our values of respecting basic human dignity.
Last week, we saw surge in ice presence, creating a more dangerous environment on site and threatening people's ability to advocate for their family members.
We've seen what has happened with ice across the country.
I won't let that unfold here.
went
on to, uh, also say that, uh, these recent protests, the clashes with law enforcement efforts to restore family visitation for detainees and, and, and individuals involved in this unrest were connected.
What she described as quote unquote national extremist groups.
And even though she didn't really identify the specific organization, she got a lot of criticism over the weekend.
If you've been following the story, because she called in state police.
I mean, when,
when
And while it's inconvenient for people who are not involved with the protest, I understand having to put these curfews into effect.
And, you know, yes, it's summer and it's still light out at nine o'clock.
Well, you know, it's nine o'clock on a weeknight.
even on the weekends, if it has to be done, it has to be done.
I'm not saying these people should be protesting.
I'm saying that if things are getting out of hand, a curfew then might be the way to just calm it down at least overnight so that maybe cooler heads in the morning will prevail on both sides.
Again, go and protest because it is funny that DHS is claiming
that the hunger strike didn't really happen.
And yet the other day on the news, both Tom Holman and Mark Wayne Mullen were on the on all the talk shows talking about how they well, we've get we're giving them food.
If they don't want to eat, that's their own fault.
And, you know, I'm paraphrasing.
But that was basically the message as you can imagine from both Tom Holman and Mark Wayne Mullen.
So was it happening or was it not happening?
Again, from the administration, we get mixed
to be nice on a Monday.
We get mixed messages.
I don't want to say they're bald-faced lying because it's Monday and it's early so I won't say that they're all full of poop but I will say that it's strange that one minute there's no protest hunger strike and the next minute well we're giving them their food if they want to do it.
This has
It's not happening in a vacuum.
We've seen it play out time and time again.
Don't you think at some point, just like Cheryl though, governors are gonna get smarter about how they do this because if the administration has a blueprint for what they're doing,
in each of these cities, the sanctuary cities that they like to call them.
Don't you think the governors start making their own blueprint to combat
what's
I mean, Cheryl's kind of leading that right now.
We're bringing it to the state police because I know they're trained to do so.
And before you can bring in more federal agents, we're gonna get our stuff in hand so that you don't necessarily need to be here is essentially what she was telling federal agents this weekend.
We've seen
I've seen Pritzker do it in Illinois.
They've done it in California where it's like, okay, we've got our own people.
This is our jurisdiction.
Just relax.
Maybe pull back your fake army for a little bit and just let everybody stop the cosplay with the ice agents.
Let law enforcement handle it.
We've handled these kind of things before because every major city has had protests over one thing or another.
They know how they know how to do it without hopefully without Escalating to the point that the ice agents are gonna escalate things to we've seen how that goes.
we saw it in northwest wisconsin right after they pulled out all of a sudden raids and things started picking up in those communities just inside across the state line so uh it it's
It's never done with these folks.
And it is funny though, Tom Holman went from being in front of a camera every day mumbling about something to now, you don't really hear about him.
And even Mark Wayne has not come out guns a blazing like Christie Nome did.
He stayed in the background too.
I think that's the interesting part.
It's kind of like if you have two ICE agents who actually
shot and killed somebody in broad daylight, you probably don't want to be in front of the press very often.
It's weird how that works.
It's weird how there's a backlash from America against this administration, even if people agreed that immigration was out of control.
I mean, that was the thing too during Minneapolis.
There were several Trump voters who also thought that what the administration was doing was
I don't know, Tom.
Maybe because we all saw it.
See, the pesky thing about the 24-hour news cycle is we see just about everything.
We have ring cameras, we have security cameras, we have news cameras.
People have their phones.
We see it.
So it makes it harder to dodge.
It makes it harder to bury.
And we are going to keep bringing it up.
That's why they're all hiding now.
Speaking of the immigration policies, we do have some good news here in the state of Wisconsin.
If you were following this case that made headlines late last year, it was a teacher's aide who
came to the United States in 2011 and she worked at a bilingual Milwaukee school.
She even had twin daughters who are US citizens.
She was married, living her life.
Ice came, right?
Because she had to go through the formal process of re-upping all of the paperwork and it turned out that they wanted her deported and this made headlines across the state.
This was one of the biggest cases that in 2025 that was
basically at the forefront very early on.
So she basically self-deported.
And a federal judge ruled that this teacher's aide, Yacina Ruano, can actually return to the US while immigration officials
view her trafficking victims of visa application.
Now, her case is part of this larger challenge from the Trump administration that removed deportation protections for some people with pending victim-related applications.
She was deported to El Salvador after being told she could leave voluntarily or face detention.
Her application remains pending.
It could take years to resolve.
The judge criticized the policy as a, quote,
removal approach that allowed deportations before visa claims were reviewed.
Now, if approved, this TV visa is what she has because of the trafficking could eventually lead to permanent residency and US citizenship.
She hopes this is the part that gets me after up.
After all of the upheaval in this woman's life, her husband and her daughters went with her to El Salvador.
So now the hope is that he'll be able to come back with her to the United States and there's no complications there.
The way things go, it's yeah, I'm sure it'll be even and with her daughters being citizens anyway, but they don't look like citizens.
Right.
They don't have the, you know, so.
No, I don't I don't believe it's gonna go smoothly for her husband.
It's going to be just They're they're bound and determined to instead of working on a system that would be equitable and work for everybody as far as immigration goes they just want to cleanse the country of Anybody who they don't think looks like them or doesn't belong here.
His latest is going after Somalians again.
And so it's
Good for her.
I'm glad she's getting to come back.
She shouldn't have been sent out anyway, but All right
You're listening to civic media find the latest news information and archives of all your favorite shows on the civic media website civic media dot US
The local voices and statewide impact.
It's Daybring with Brian and Jamie.
I'm Brian Noonan.
Jamie, you sent this story about AMC theaters, and I haven't been to a movie in way too long.
I'll just say that out loud.
But they're launching a new live concert experience.
And it allows audiences in movie theaters to watch and interact with performers in real time.
So when you hear that, which artist would you like to see do one of these?
Because it sounds pretty good.
It's not a regular concert
If there's somebody particular in this experience you'd like to see, you could call or text us this morning.
1-855-752-4842.
1-855-755-CIVIC.
This is actually kind of cool because AMC says that the technology is going to turn local movie theaters into virtual concert venues with this more immersive experience.
And it will be shown, this concert will be shown in about 300 AMC locations.
in about 89 different markets nationwide.
And they're gonna actually start these shows this month, later this month.
So if you are interested in the music of BB Rexha, Paris Hilton.
weirdly.
I know she does a
Well, it's a cheaper experience, but it also, you know, there's a lot of, a lot of shows that you want to see that are.
sold out or you, you know, the only tickets are way up.
You have to travel too far.
They're not coming to your town.
You're sitting so far away.
Whereas this, but it's it harkens back to old closed circuit fight coverage, you know, when there used to be boxing matches or wrestling, you'd go to a theater and you'd watch it on closed circuit TV.
That's basically what it is.
So I'm curious to see what the technology is that makes it Yeah, seem more
interactive because right now I'm like well the artist is doing a concert unless they're doing it just like a one night only for sure and it's only for the AMC audiences yeah it's not but they can't make money that way so I'm no aren't they just live streaming say the say BB Rex is playing in Milwaukee
As far as I can tell, and I've tried to kind of dive into this, AMC is keeping it a little on the down low yet as to what this immersive experience will actually be like.
They say, though, that this is an instrumental move in trying to rebuild the entertainment industry
since the pandemic and since our habits have changed so much since the pandemic.
Movie
And I think it's interesting that AMC is recognizing the fact that nobody goes to theaters not like they used to and that people still would rather be at home in a lot of ways or are now waiting for movies to come to streaming.
That could be part of what is happening.
the movie industry as well, but I digress
lot of
you're
up your doubt, you're not seeing much of the movie anyway, their attention span is short, so if you could do it at home, it's just a much better experience, and you're not spending the type of money that you would be taking the kids to the movie theater, but they're still able to see that movie.
So I get why young families especially are
are basically poo-pooing the theaters at this point, because it's not always
At least if I, you know, when I had to take Molly to all those kids movies, I slept through all of them and I still had to pay, so I was paying to take a nap, where if we had watched them at home, I could have just, you know, she'd have fun, she'd enjoy her movie.
I'd be with her and, you know, if she had to go to the bathroom, I didn't have to escort her.
Right.
You know where the bathroom is, it's right over there.
Yeah, I think yeah, I think it might be fun They are one night only thing so there's special events and it is it is more reasonable and it it does give access to people around the country who don't have That same access if the artists aren't coming to their town.
All right when we come back It's the first text to win word and so much more its daybreak on the civic media
network The national news cycle never stops, but it can be hard to find news about your local community
Civic Media is dedicated to providing quality local and state news coverage across Wisconsin.
With the Civic Media app, you can get notifications about local stories that matter to you and your community.
Find the free Civic Media app in your phone's app store and choose notifications from the menu to tell us what kind of news you want to hear about.