War Against Voting (Hour 1)

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War Against Voting (Hour 1)

Daybreak w/ Brian and Jamie · Thu Apr 30, 2026

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Jamie.

Thank you so much for joining us this morning on the Civic Media Network.

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Already a little sunshine peeking out, which is good news for a lot of us.

My name is Jamie Martenson.

And good morning.

I'm Brian Noonan.

Always happy to hear from you throughout the morning.

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Have you closed the blinds yet, so you are not blinded at some point

in the show?

We just left them from earlier this week.

We just left them where they were at, so hopefully we're good to go this morning.

We don't want your retinas burned out at some point during the show again.

That would be horrifying.

There's a lot of glass in our studio.

There's also a lot of glass in downtown Madison, so there's a lot of reflection that

happens when the sun comes out.

Isn't there, Parker?

Horrible place to

be doing a show

during severe weather.

I was genuinely very concerned about Dom the other night.

They made it

through.

Oh, that's true.

At night, say, yeah, have the windows been blown out?

No.

Never?

No.

No.

That's good.

No.

We've always made it through.

That's right.

We've always made it through safely.

So that's the good news.

They

really should get like some.

Kind of curtains or something.

All of a sudden Parker's concerned, Brian.

I mean, I just get

some storm curtains.

Why don't

you just throw some cardboard up there, Parker?

I mean, hey.

Fast up the joint.

We'll class it up.

We got to

hunker down, guys.

Wow.

All right,

well,

it's really just you and Dom in there and Jamie in the morning.

True.

So really?

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And you're

expendable.

We're expendable.

Can't you go to that inside?

For those of you who are not familiar with most people or not, there's another studio in there that has no windows.

You go sit in the bunker.

It is like a studio bunker.

That's essentially what it is.

And all

the big equipment that runs the network is in a bunker too.

That's

right.

There's a reason the building is designed as it is.

In fact, our headquarters.

Yeah,

Panicky Parker.

I know you get blown away.

In fact, our headquarters are an old bank headquarters.

So that's why you've got a lot of inside walls in here.

So little inside information if you ever want to visit us at our headquarters in downtown Madison.

I am having an issue that I'm hoping some people can give me advice

on

because I've reached a point where a lot of people who have elderly parents get to this point and everybody was, I'm hoping people could be as helpful with this as they were with Frank's bachelor party conundrum last

week.

When you were

gone, Frank used the show Jamie as a

pulpit for his own needs.

Okay.

And got a lot of great suggestions from folks about where some specific places to host a bachelor party in Wisconsin.

So he is he got really good advice.

If you get to a certain age, pardon me, and your parents are a certain age, you kind of take over the role as caregiver.

And I'm kind of at that point with my mom, where now we've been told by assisted living that she has to move into a long term nursing facility.

I've never done this before, obviously.

If you have moved your parents into a nursing home, what did you look for when you were going there?

You know, she doesn't have, like, skilled medical needs, she doesn't have feeding tubes or any of that kind of stuff.

But yeah, so this is the newest project that consumes

The I have either this show that I'm working on or I'm trying to figure out right nursing homes, which is

it's

like oh my good

No,

no time off for me No time off we got a and I have a cut like I found

I went through, just like I did when I was looking for assisted living, I went through and got Medicare grades.

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And

then I got US News and World Report rankings.

And so I'm looking and comparing and I'm trying to keep it within a certain geographic area.

Sure.

So you can get there quickly.

Yes.

I'm

the one who's here.

So it's all very...

It's all very new and I know I'm not the first to go through it.

Has any of that been helpful as you put some of that together?

Is any of that helpful?

Yes.

Okay.

Yes.

No, especially, well, the Medicare one especially alerts you right away if there have been complaints against the facility.

So that's gone.

Those are gone first.

Sure.

Anything average or below average, I kick out.

So then it gets to

And they it's surprised they do kind of they do kind of balance out the US news and work because they give you know their awards and their certifications Because I stay away from like Yelp reviews

right there's always yelp is always disgruntled whether it's restaurants right or nursing

homes anything

people are disgruntled about something

it's always the people who are upset or got feel like they got wronged bad service whatever it might be whatever situation yes totally

amazing right you go to a restaurant and you have a great time it's good the food's terrific the service is great and you then you look at yelp and you

They have 73 one-star reviews.

How could this possibly be?

And

it's usually stupid stuff.

Like the server didn't bring me enough biscuits or the server didn't give up to give me water when I needed it.

Okay.

Well, maybe it was a really busy time that you were in there.

Maybe you should just be.

I mean, like, I get it.

You're paying for it, but at the same time, you know what?

Our service industry, they don't exactly have it easy.

So I take some of those.

reviews with a grain of

salt.

right

or or like you the other night it would have been but you but you got in there in time i went there three minutes before

the

kitchen closed and they didn't have everything i wanted

that's on me that's totally on me at that point or i always love the ones i went out of friday night at six p.m and i had a 45 minute wait really you don't say no

reservation you just had to wait shocking wow shocking so yeah so that's what i'm i'm doing the same thing but with a place with nursing home my mom to live and it's like

Oh boy.

And then how do you have that conversation right with her?

It's the whole thing because I am not going back to Magnum Force and a man's got to know his limitations.

I know I am a good problem solver,

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but I am

not the greatest caretaker.

You know, I'm empathetic.

I just I'm like a lot of people I want to solve the problem right and some problems you cannot solve.

And that's the frustrating part.

It's not, oh, I'm frustrated because I have to take care of somebody.

It's frustrating because I can't help enough.

I can't get the job done.

And I think in this particular case, it becomes, it's really hard, especially if you have a parent who...

Because let's be realistic, especially when people get to a certain age, sometimes the body gives out long before the brain does,

right?

And when they're still sharp enough to be able to make those decisions and be involved in those conversations, it makes it doubly hard because they feel like, at least in cases we've had in our family,

it always to that person always felt like you were trying to take things away from them and and you

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didn't

trust them and their ability and that's not what it is.

You want them to be safe, right?

You want them to

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be

cared for and it has nothing to do with what we think their abilities are.

It has everything to do with what their body is allowing them to do at this particular moment and that's where it becomes really difficult.

That's the hard part and then you know cognitive ability, everything is sliding.

over 89 you're

you know

things happen and boy but it does make you think about your own

age doesn't it yes yes

Parker I want you to promise you're gonna old Yeller me right yeah guy go watch on record now what somebody take me out to the shed Parker I'm good with it

But it is a hard conversation, right?

And then to think of it in your own terms of your own life, it's a conversation, Cory and I actually have often because we're at our late 40s, we have no plans.

We have absolutely no plans of what's gonna happen to us.

And we have two boys who at some point are probably gonna have to make decisions for us.

And I've seen their empathy.

I don't even wanna know

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what's gonna happen to us if

they have to make decisions.

decisions for us but you know and then you toss in the fact that in where we're at right now facilities are not

We don't have a plethora of them really anywhere for for patients like your mom We don't have a plethora of doctors the cost for families is so astronomical Then you have to start making choices of do you want to?

Essentially take the care that might be better here with a little better review But at the same time it's really really spendy and nobody wants to be put into that situation when you're talking about a loved one, right?

You just you don't want to be there

it's right and some you know

circle and some a lot of people can't take somebody into their house especially when they have advanced needs right but yeah I I am so grateful that my mom and dad went into education because back in the day

They got good pensions.

Sure.

And that's and my mom still gets my dad's pension from the board too.

So I'm like, man, I should have thought of

Parker.

There's still time.

There's still time.

There's still

time

for you.

Save yourself.

I could get out of here.

I could teach at a school.

Do companies do companies or do educators or companies still do pensions like that though in 2026?

The

teachers

at

least at least Illinois.

Okay.

That's why

People complain that they don't pay Social Security.

Sure.

they've paid in to

their

pensions, so they get their pensions.

Because I know that that's a big contentious point for a lot of government employees because those pensions are starting to shrink smaller and smaller.

It's part of the reason why some of our government entities, hello United

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States

Postal Service, is having the financial issues.

So I know there's a lot of companies, you know, because at one point in time, you got your pen, your gold watch, you retired, you got your pension, that's what people lived for, right?

Now in 2026, you're like,

All right, we don't have to pay this person anymore.

They're off the payroll.

Now we can take that salary and divide it among three different people because that's where we're at in the

economy.

It's amazing now everybody is supposed to be a financial advisor of their own future.

Whereas back in the day, like you said, you put in 30, 40 years at a company, you retired, you got a pension.

And that's how the system was.

Now it's like, if you don't start planning when you're

24 at your first job and setting up all sorts of, yeah, you're late, Parker.

Yeah, you're really freaking

out.

There's a refrigerator

box in your future.

God, but between the windows and now this,

this is a horrible morning.

I don't know

how you even get out of bed in the

morning.

I'm in shambles.

There is nothing that...

nothing that's going to save you.

That's horrifying.

It's so sad, Parker.

But yeah, it's it's amazing.

It's amazing how things change and just everybody's life evolves.

And again, my life is not unique.

That's why I was reaching out.

But it's just one of those one of those hurdles you get to.

And then I, you know,

Now I'm like, oh, what's Molly going to do with me?

Right.

Yeah.

No, I think about those things.

I've been in

radio.

Well, I think about those things all the time.

And then the fact that my dad passed away almost 20 years ago will be in July.

My mom has been on her own ever since.

And, you know, I've talked about the situation with my mom.

She has

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congestive

heart

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failure.

So we're constantly worried about her medical needs, her medicines.

She lives on a fixed income, which is essentially my dad's social security, which isn't a lot.

And pretty much all goes to rent and utilities.

And there's not always a lot of room left at the end of the day for all of the medicine she needs.

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And yes, she

has health care.

But we know how that's changed over the course of the last few months, slash years.

And then also, by the way, you have to have some food in there too.

And so I understand this circle quite well because we go through it ourselves.

very, very frequently.

And my mom is one of those people, I don't know how your mom is, but my mom is one of those people where she'll basically be completely out of money and she'll call and say, I don't know what to do, but I didn't want to bother you.

And you just know how busy you are.

No, no, no, no, no.

See, you should have bothered me because we couldn't handle

that.

Right, especially when thankfully one of my other brothers handles all the finances.

Oh, you're

lucky.

You're lucky.

Well.

Sure.

When we come back, you know who's not lucky?

Us in the United States because the Supreme Court has basically rolled back our civil rights.

We'll talk about that.

And so much more.

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It's Daybury with Brian and Jamie.

Good morning.

Thank you so much for joining us today on the Civic Media Network.

It is 22 minutes after six, very early on this Thursday morning, and I'm telling you, Brian, I'm feeling every bit of the earlyness today.

By

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this

point of the week, I start feeling it a little bit more, and then tomorrow, I'll have a little bit more pep in my step, because who doesn't on a Friday?

But we're here.

We're going to muddle through today.

We are

here.

We'll make it.

And it does, you know, the old hump day term never really, it's really hitting.

since we started this show where once Wednesday's done I'm like okay

but then the last few weeks

I've been very confused after the Thursday show and I'm like oh we're done.

I know.

One more.

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It's

wishful thinking.

That's wishful thinking.

That's what that is.

We all get there with our

jobs.

What are your feelings about the Supreme Court ruling yesterday cutting basically killing the voters right at voters rights act eight five five seven five civic eight five five seven five two four eight four two Jamie you we joke here about gerrymandering being one of your favorite things and it's not the gerrymandering is not your favorite thing but you do like talking about it and dissecting it and we've we saw this battle start

a little above a couple months ago when Donald Trump was telling states they need to redraw their maps and Texas to redrew their map and then California threatened to redraw their map and here in Wisconsin, we've been dealing with this issue for a long time about gerrymandering and redistricting and all of this.

I never thought I would see the Supreme Court overturn the Voters' Rights Act, which basically

kills the hope of a lot of voters, especially in southern states, where gerrymandering against even one district has been going on for decades.

Yes.

And for anybody who wants to stay with us throughout the morning or can, we're going to actually have an expert join us at 7.30.

And we're going to dive into this a little bit more with him, get a little history on this as well.

You're right.

I mean, it feels very much like... We've talked about this with the Supreme Court, right?

It feels like when they do one thing correctly, they're gearing us up for something even bigger that...

they're preparing to undo.

We've seen this throughout the Trump administration.

We saw this even during Joe Biden's term, where it felt like every time they give us a little win, that means there's something much bigger coming down the pike.

And this

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is one

of those things because...

Essentially, what happened is they tossed out Louisiana's long contested congressional map as an unconstitutional gerrymander.

And this is, as a decision, as you rightly pointed out, Brian, that could have implication for years, not to mention the fact in the midterm elections coming up in just a few months.

Now, for Louisiana,

This decision scraps the map that was drawn in early 2024 and added a second black and democratic lawmaker to the state's overwhelming Republican delegation.

And just a second one,

not and just a little Louisiana history over a third of their voters

are African-American.

It

might even be more than that.

But it is it is.

Yes.

So to have two representatives.

It doesn't seem like that

many.

No, it really doesn't.

And of course, the Supreme Court's decision comes in the middle of a much broader and as a lot of us know, a very highly unusual mid-decade redistricting because these Republican states have, this has been a war against voting.

And

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we've seen

this play out all across the country.

And I think when you look at what happened yesterday,

The timing is probably...

the most suspect thing to me in all of this because it wasn't random.

This wasn't done randomly by any means.

This was essentially done at the time it was to make sure that the Republican party has an upper leg, especially in large portions of this country in the midterm elections, because the one thing that they do not want to have happen is people to vote and be able to have their vote counted in a fair way.

That has been an ongoing battle.

with this party.

Yes, that part is true.

I have been reading a lot of dissertations.

Now, we know Florida had a redrawn map ready to roll, and as soon as this decision came down, they passed that.

So Florida is picking up four seats.

Louisiana, they said it's probably too late to

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get a

new map done before the midterms, and that's the case in most places because...

there was a March 10th deadline to have all that stuff in.

So for the midterms, other than in Florida, things may stay the same.

Now, once the, you know, the presidential election comes around

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or

later elections come around, that's when that's when we're really going to see the effects of this.

But my question, and we'll talk to our expert later is, where does this end?

Right?

Because, all right, you start seeing it across the south.

And again, it's not, they're not taking away a lot of representatives.

It's not like there's a lot of representatives from the South anyway, but they're going to try to get rid of all of them.

Yes.

They're looking at Tennessee.

They have one, one Democratic district in Tennessee.

There's already talk about that,

trying to

be redistricted.

But then does California do blue states then?

Does this just become

nuclear escalation of trying to redistrict and it changes every time

there's

This is why gerrymandering is a pet project of mine because and why I hate it so much because of exactly what we're talking about.

And back to your point, one of the things that I think worries me the most is when we look at the midterms, we've seen several of these Republican states who have Republican governors, state houses, state senates, state Supreme courts, all under Republican control.

When you have that, the thing that worries me the most is how quickly will they be able to push something through if they really, really want it to happen.

And that's what terrifies me about November, because I will...

There's a part of me that believes some of these Republican states have had these plans drawn up in the background, just

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hoping,

just waiting for this moment in time.

And that's what I think terrifies me about how we're going to disenfranchise so many voters potentially across the country because of this.

Are you looking to adopt a Beagle?

Well, there's going to be a lot coming to rescue centers near you in the near future.

We'll talk about that and more.

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If you call in, be nice to Parker.

He'll be answering the phone.

He's very

nervous.

He's got

things to do.

He's living in a box, covered the windows today.

Yeah.

And not because he thinks aliens are coming, he just is nervous.

The more he listens to us, the more he...

He

gets nervous.

Here's the future.

That's right.

The

more I learn about the future, the more worried I get, Brian.

This is probably a good tactic.

You should be worried

about the future.

This is a good tactic.

Go with that.

Go with your gut partner.

Scared

straight, brother.

You know, be prepared like a Boy Scout.

Parker, maybe a beagle would help you.

Maybe a dog to comfort your anxiety.

I've got one, but sure, what's two?

They

can entertain each other.

Oh,

they keep each other company.

The dogs don't get depressed.

That's what I was told years ago.

How was that going for you, Brian?

With the two dogs?

Okay.

We've always had two

dogs.

Well,

since we had the first one, then we had to get the second one.

My wife told me,

the dogs needed company.

So now we've always had two dogs.

And they don't care about each other.

There's a nice level of dog day tunt.

They coexist nicely.

They're both seniors at this point.

The one will just look at me like, why is she making that noise?

I get it.

I get it.

I get it totally where she's coming from.

I think the same thing about other people.

I don't know why anybody's making this noise.

I

would just stop.

Well, if you are looking for a Beagle to adopt, this may be a good time to start putting the feelers out because Ridgeline Farms, you've been following this saga.

We've been talking about

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this

saga here in Madison.

The

the Beagle facility that, you know, raises them for experiments and medical treatments and things.

They've reached an agreement to sell a substantial majority of their Beagles to rescue organizations instead of research buyers.

Hopefully that will make some of the people who are protesting happy that would, you know, okay, now the now the problem is, you've got they're going to sell about 1000 to 1500 dogs out of about the 200 that they have.

2000.

Yes.

2000.

What did I say?

200.

Yep.

Oh, well, then you can't sell 1500 dogs if you only have 200.

I wanted to

make

sure the math was math for

everybody

this morning.

The math ain't math and you're correct.

2000.

Thank

you.

The math ain't math.

Thank you.

No,

it's not.

I listen, I've never claimed to be a mathematician.

So about 1000 dogs are expected to go right to rescue care.

The others will be sent to shelters across the country.

Now you have to worry.

Okay, you've got these.

thousand fifteen hundred dogs you got to get them to shelters that are no kill you got to hope they get adopted there's you know

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there's

a lot of dogs in these shelters and I'm not saying that one is preferable to another I'm like okay we you got your first step you did you did well getting that first step realized now what are we gonna do

And the deal actually involves the Big Dog Ranch Rescue and Center for a Humane Economy.

Now, here's a fun little tidbit of information that I found while doing a little research.

Laura Trump, the president's daughter-in-law, is actually a director of the Big Dog Ranch Rescue.

Really?

She is, yes.

The actual owner and founder of Big Dog Ranch Rescue.

I believe there might be, it sounds like maybe this

is a rescue that has several across the country in different locations is from Florida and Laura Trump is.

basically a board a member of the board of directors for for which I find fascinating.

She's obviously an animal.

I hope this is actually

for dogs then and not just

for what's up big

dog and it's like finance bros who need

a place

to crash after

they lost all their money.

I found that as I was doing a little reading last night about all of this I found that it's just a fascinating little tidbit of information that I was like huh okay I would have never connected those things but here we are.

And I'm sure they're a fine organization.

Sure.

Personally I hear that and I'm like oh you

got it.

them somewhere.

I

know.

And the big dog ranch is going to have a press conference later today in Madison to talk about this because to your point, Brian, about a thousand of those dogs are going to go directly to rescue care.

Some others will be sent to partner shelters, partner shelters across the country.

But one of the things that the ranch has already talked about is the rehabilitation process that's going to go

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into

these dogs.

They don't

know how to be dogs.

They literally don't know how to walk on anything but a wired kennel.

And they've never been, a lot of times had human touch other than when people have been running experiments on them.

They haven't been vetted.

in any way, shape, or form.

So they're going to have to go through the entire vetting process.

Now, I also found it interesting that the facility actually is set to shut down their breeding operations on July 1st.

And that comes after a legal settlement in 2025 that allowed the facility to avoid prosecution if it gives up its Wisconsin license.

But despite that closure, the facility is still legally allowed to operate and sell dogs to research.

labs until that July 1 deadline.

So there's still, which is why the assumption is that they're going to keep a few hundred of those dogs available because they still will be able to operate as a research facility until July 1.

Well, we're at May, so I know it's

not, it's not

ideal.

It's eight weeks.

It is.

And there's a hard deadline.

So you, you know, if, if.

this is one of the movements that you've been involved in protesting, you've been, you're passionate about it.

There's progress.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it does have an end.

So

it's, it's one of those

sides, right?

Right.

And it's, it's one of those unfortunate situations.

And we've talked about this before on, on the air.

Um, you know, it's, this is one of those things where

dozens of protesters broke into a private entity and you know and and there's been legal action against them which then they sued the Dane County Sheriff's Department because they're saying that that action that Dane County took was too aggressive you know and then we get I know I know you broke into a private facility I mean there's still laws and still rules.

I understand how

passionate you are

about

this cause but you yes you do have to obey the law.

And whether you

like it or not, from all reporting, Ridgland was obeying the law.

Now, you

don't

have to like what they're doing.

That's fine.

You can protest what they're doing.

That's fine.

Once you break the law, though, that's sorry.

Yeah.

You know?

It's going to be fascinating to see if, with this July 1st deadline coming up, because we know that there was protest just as late as late March.

There was some more, again, over this past weekend, to the point where then protesters ended up sitting in front of Tony Evers' office asking him to do something.

They are doing something, even

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if the

timeline isn't moving as fast as you would like.

And again, I totally understand.

I've been involved in the rehabilitation of beagles coming out of research centers.

Um, it is not always pretty.

I, I'll just be honest.

It is no, it is so much work and it is so hard.

And if you were a dog lover, to see an animal come to you, be wrapped in a blanket, even puppies, older dogs, and to see them wrapped in a blanket and shivering and so afraid.

And just this look of.

of dejection in their faces.

That is, if you're an animal lover, that is one of the most heartbreaking things you can possibly go through.

And the fact that they've never had human attention and when you get one of these dogs in your arms, which I've had and they're wrapped in a blanket and you want to.

to let them know it's okay for them to stiffen up in your arms because they've never felt that type of affection.

It is heartbreaking.

So I understand that you want this timeline sped up, but they're doing what they can.

Nothing goes

fast, especially when it comes to any sort of legal movement.

Anytime it comes to some sort of certifications or changing policies, it takes a while.

But eight eight weeks.

Yeah, is that's pretty quick.

I mean that's

I always tell friends who have will say it's not moving fast enough Well, yes, it's not an all it's not an episode of law and order.

It's just not right like it's we don't solve everything in 45 minutes, right, right, but

But keep an eye on this one because there is light at the end of the tunnel.

We are going to see some of these beagles make their way into shelters, be rehabbed, eventually probably find some really loving homes.

And at the end of the day, that's the most that you can hope for, right?

I mean, that's

what that's what you've been protesting for.

That's what you've been you've been pushing for.

Let's let's change the subject.

Yes, this came across.

State Senator Andre Jnok breaking news.

Yeah,

it is breaking.

Do we have a breaking news sounder Parker?

Do we have one somewhere?

Breaking

news.

Thank

you.

That

is it.

Who says the budget on daybreak is low?

Not me.

I've never said it.

Are we getting money pumped into this program through corporate?

All the time.

Kathryn Lake

All the time.

Can we hear that again?

Just to reset.

Breaking news.

All right, there we go.

State Senator Andre Jacques not seeking reelection.

He, uh, he's a new Franken Republican.

He says he is not running for another term.

Have you been keeping a tally board, Jamie, of how many Republicans in Wisconsin have decided for one reason or another?

starting at the top with Robin Voss are not seeking reelection.

I will have to do a full tally.

I

think we're up to five or six.

Five or six, and it depends if you're looking at what house because some houses have stepped back, members of each house are missing certain members a little bit more.

So I can do a quick tally during the commercial break, but that's easy to find.

But it's interesting how quickly these

these resignations are coming right now.

Yeah,

he was in, if you're not familiar with Andre Jacques, he spent eight years in the assembly before being elected to the first district in the state Senate in 2019.

So he's been along.

He is not, he, now, all right, let me play this game with you.

Jamie, is he leaving to spend more time with family?

Is A, is B, to pursue other interests, or C, undisclosed?

Um, oh gosh, I haven't even read all the way down.

So, oh, this is a tough one.

I'm going to say to pursue other interests because he's a younger man.

Very good.

He said

he'll work with a variety of nonprofits after he leaves office.

All right.

I do have the list here of people who have decided to step down at this point, besides Andre Jacques.

Obviously, we know Assembly Speaker Robin Voss, Senate Majority Leader Devin LaMahieu are both stepping down.

We also have Steve Nass from Whitewater, Rob Hutton from Brookfield, Van Wongard from Racine, Jerry O'Connor from Fond du Lac.

We have Rob Brooks, who is also stepping down from Salkville, Kevin Peterson from Wapaka, and also at this point, Rick

Gundram from slinger.

Those are the members of the assembly or Senate who are stepping down at this point.

So with including Andre Jacques, that's ten.

All right.

Ten.

I thought we were getting close to double digits, but I didn't want to say it until I had a full

count.

I didn't want to overshoot because I knew at one point it was four

and

then we had heard a couple more.

Yes.

All right, so there's ten including Andre Jacques who just made this announcement this morning.

Ten.

All right.

That is interesting because of fairer maps in the state of Wisconsin, back to that conversation, the seats were already narrowing for Republicans, Democrats were in a good spot to pick up more seats.

And so if you're keeping tabs on midterms, everyone, 10 seats up for grabs now.

But what I would say, you know, at some point you could probably say some of these were very safe Republican districts.

If you watch the results of the Supreme Court race, nothing seemed to be safe based on those results.

Right.

Well, we've talked about state senators, we've talked about voters' rights, we've talked about beagles.

Why not a flaming dinosaur?

That's right.

We're going to get into this story.

We'll have a little bit of fun.

Got

to light the mood.

Just to cleanse the

palate for our number one.

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I'm Jamie Martinson.

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My name is Jamie Martinson.

And I'm Brian Noonan, and as that music will tell you, life finds a way.

unless you're a 60 ton dinosaur in a Kansas theme park.

We all thought the storms, uh, you got your, your side hustle, your other

baby

must be, it must be jumping because

for the last six, seven

days,

so big

storms.

ripping across

the country.

Yeah, we have chasers all across the country who have been out.

They've seen some, obviously there's been some moments already this year in Oklahoma that you wish you could take back and you hate mother nature at that moment time.

There's also been some really great storms just in open fields, which is what we do on our side hustle is what we always hope some really photogenic storms that don't do any damage to anything.

Well, one storm that blew through Derby, Kansas on Saturday night did a lot of damage at the Field Station dinosaurs theme park.

60 ton animatronic dinosaur was burst into flames because it was struck by lightning.

Yeah.

Yes.

Do yourself a favor.

If you've ever thought, man, I'd like to take a dinosaur at a barbecue.

I'd like to pretend I'm the Fred Flintstone and I'm

grill it up a dinosaur look for this because the derby fire department put out the video this was it is really what's more frightening is just the skeleton just still

standing there very eerie weird mmm yeah

so about just for 830 the fire department put out a statement they were called to multiple reports of a lightning strike at a dinosaur on fire there's there's a call you do not get

Every day ever

yeah in your career.

I'm guessing there's firefighters across this country who've retired after 40 years of service never once got the All engines we have a dinosaur on fire Hopefully was there there was just it

consumed with heavy fire.

It's a three-story dinosaur.

They're able to contain the blaze and keep it from spreading to other dinosaurs and the rest of the park.

The dinosaur is the park's largest herbivore in the early Cretaceous period.

with

a

total length of roughly 100 feet and weighing nearly 60 tons.

What I love is how what a good sense of humor the fire department had about this because on their Facebook page they said that this is the first dinosaur fire Derby has experienced in 65 million years.

So in the heart of all of this I'm glad that somebody has a sense of humor but if you watch the video you almost expect this moment if you're a Jurassic Park fan of Jeff Goldblum just walking out of the smoke and parting the way

of it because it is it is that the video is that crazy

I kept waiting for the flaming dinosaur to just start moving

This is, it was built on an ancient burial ground somewhere in Kansas and now the spirits will come and they will animate the dinosaur and this flaming dinosaur will take out the entire town of Derby.

It is, it is a, it is a weirdly crazy, fascinating video.

If you, you know, have a few minutes before you start your work day today, just do a quick search for Derby Kansas dinosaur and you'll see all sorts of things.

I don't know where

Derby is in Kansas.

don't know what we were in the break.

We were trying to figure out what there was to do in Kansas.

Yeah, mostly hiking and rocks.

Yeah, there's a lot of rocks.

I'm trying to... I've been...

There's no Wizard of Oz thing

there.

There's no big... Oh, yes.

Well, actually, a lot of those Wizard of Oz, interestingly enough, I'm sure there are some in Kansas.

I've never been.

Some of the biggest Wizard of Oz places that you can visit, a lot of them are in Oklahoma because I think people equate that to tornadoes more, which I think is also fascinating.

Yeah, but Kansas is

where Dorothy

was.

Exactly.

Kansas, she said, was the

name of...

Exactly.

I'm trying to, I'm on a map here looking to see, so Derby, Kansas, let's see, oh boy, it is, it is basically, it would be north and a little west of Tulsa, that would be the closest major town next to it.

And just south, I guess, actually there we go, zooming in on my map as it comes into focus, just south of Wichita.

So it's kind of situated in that area, but really, I

lived in Wichita for a

while.

alignment for the county.

What I love is I've been to Kansas several times obviously you know storm chasing we end up there frequently it's been it's been a hot second since I've been to Kansas and it's a beautiful state if you love prairie there's really not much to do.

It's a beautiful state if you love prairie and wide open

space.

I've

been to Wichita a number of times in Topeka but

it's always weird to me though growing up in South Dakota that landscape has never

repealed to me because it's what I grew up with.

I saw it all the time.

I always found it fascinating working at the Corum Palace as a teenager in an early college when people would come from the east coast who don't have that kind of open land though and haven't grown up with it.

And they're just like, this is the most beautiful place on earth.

And I remember I'd always look around going, really?

This, this is, okay, all right, each their own.

I'm not gonna tell you what to think, it's beautiful.

The first time I saw the Badlands, I was like, this is the coolest thing

I've ever

seen.

It

is cool.

Or out in Utah, where it's just, you're like you're on the moon.

Yeah.

It's like, this is the greatest, because you don't see it all the time.

I still like getting out and seeing

it.

Oh, of course.

There's a point where it's like, all right.

Yeah.

Badlands.

If I'm seeing it from the driver's seat of my car and I'm flying along, I can appreciate it because I get to drive fast.

Right.

But after a while, it's like, all right.

The Badlands are, I will say that that is actually out of all of the things in South Dakota, the Badlands are actually my favorite part.

I really, truly do love the Badlands.

I think they're beautiful.

I think they're amazing.

If you ever get the chance to drive through there, go at sunrise or sunset, simply because the

red when the orange of the badlands picks up the colors of the sunset.

And then it almost looks like the entire earth in that section has been illuminated with an orange highlighter.

It really is the coolest thing when you get to see it up close.

It's beautiful, absolutely phenomenal.

I don't know how I've never asked you this as a South Dakotan.

Your thoughts on wall

drug.

Please don't get me started.

Please just, please don't.

We don't have enough time in this show for you to- You

don't love walled drug and there ain't-

billion

billboards.

And they're ice cold water folks.

Ice cold water.

Listen, a guy gets parched in the bad lands.

There's not much between South Dakota to the Black Hills, so I get it.

All right, listen, when we come back, it's hour two, it's headlines and a whole lot more.

I'm Brian Newton, this is Daybreak.

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