SCOTUS And Voting Rights (Hour 2)

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SCOTUS And Voting Rights (Hour 2)

Daybreak w/ Brian and Jamie · Thu Apr 30, 2026

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Time for some headlines from the Iran War.

The United Arab Emirates announced Tuesday it will leave OPEC effective May 1st stripping the oil cartel of one of its largest producers while the announcement doesn't

change anything regarding the blockage of the Strait of Hormuz, it could help lower oil prices after the war if the UAE increases its production capacity.

Brent Crude Oil traded over 50% higher than its pre-war price yesterday.

Also in headlines from the Middle East, the U.S.

military said Tuesday in a social media post that it boarded and released a commercial ship in the Arabian Sea east of the Strait of Hormuz that was suspected of heading for Iran.

The command said it has now redirected 39 vessels since the start of the blockade on ships going to and from Iranian ports.

And finally Iran offered to end its chokehold on the strait if the US lifts its blockade on the country and ends the war in a proposal that would postpone discussions on the Islamic Republic's nuclear program that according to two regional officials US President Donald Trump seems unlikely to accept the offer however and US Secretary of State Marco Rubio appeared to rule out any deal that excludes Iran's nuclear program and just

a reminder.

We did have a nuclear deal before, correct, Jamie?

Yes, yes.

A very good one.

And the straight

was open?

It was.

And with the nuclear deal, it was one that Iran was actually following.

And there were there were inspections, and they were doing everything they needed to do to uphold that particular deal.

So

well, then, by all means, let's go get them.

All right, well, those are headlines from the war.

Now let's turn

our attention to other zzzz you need to know.

It's a wake-up call in more ways than one.

Time for some sh** you need to know.

Yes.

Well, speaking of the war, Pete Hegseth faces a second day of...

hearings today.

He is going to get grilled again by Democrats on Capitol Hill.

The senators are taking their shot at him today.

They get their first opportunity to confront or praise the Pentagon chief over his handling of the war.

If you watched any of his testimony in the House yesterday, depending on what side of the aisle the House member questioning him came from, he was either the second coming of

every military genius known to man or the most inept goofball who needed to resign that you've ever run into.

I'll let you decide which side you want to put him on, but Hexeth battle with Democrats and a few Republicans yesterday during a nearly six-hour house

Armed Services Committee hearing where he faced sharp questioning over the war's costs and dollars lives and the diminishing stockpiles of critical weapons and if you watched any of this you saw he was as demure and full of courtesy and cooperation as all other Trump administration members that have had to

testify in front of Congress.

He was smug, he was arrogant, he was screaming at House members, but that's just Pete being Pete.

The Armed Services Committee is going to hear a similar presentation on the Trump administration's 2027 military budget proposal, which would boost defense spending to a historic $1.5 trillion.

Hag Seth and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Cain, will again stress the need for more drones, missile defense systems, and warships.

They're now also likely to face tough questions about American troop levels in Europe after President Donald Trump yesterday leveled a new threat.

against NATO ally Germany Suggesting he could soon reduce the US military presence in the country as he feuds with Chancellor Frederick Mars MERS over the Iran war sidebar that came after a 90 minute phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin 90 minute phone call with Putin the same Putin whose country was giving our troop Placements to Iran just

so

you know that

Yeah, I don't know if there's a connection.

I'll let you decide.

If the Senate hearing is similar to yesterday's in the House, Republican senators may focus on the details of military budgeting and voice support for the operation in Iran.

Democrats, however, are expected to press for answers on strategy in the conflict.

Now in a tenuous ceasefire and a Hegseth firing of top military leaders, he refused to answer questions on how much longer the war would last or how much more it would cost.

When questioned about that he immediately made Rokana was Representative Rokana was questioning him about the cost and Instead of answering he would just he just kept shouting.

What is the cost of Iran having a nuclear weapon?

What is the cost?

But then he also said that their Nuclear capabilities have been obliterated right contradicting himself.

So it has been

Same old song and dance for anybody.

It's always a

show from the administration.

It's a show

That's essentially what it is.

Very

performative.

Their testimony usually has little substance or fact based with it, and because a lot of this administration is unqualified to hold the positions that they do, he was a weekend Fox anchor, right?

I know.

That's what Pete Hegseth did.

I mean, let's be realistic.

He has some time in the National Guard, and he was a weekend anchor on Fox News.

That is his qualifications for being in charge of the Department of Defense.

So when you have to sit in front of senators and representatives who are fully prepared, who have fully analyzed, who understand the budgets, who understand the military, and they start asking you questions, it simply evolves into some sort of performance art, is what happens.

Yes, and every time he was asked about gas prices prior to the war and now,

he

would just scream, more in California, more in California.

What?

You're a child.

You're a child, you're a not serious person, you are unqualified, you are ill-informed, and you are nothing but another lapdog for the president.

I mean it essentially goes back to the same arguments and this is why as you know this administration started rolling out the cabinet and wanting to for the confirmations why some Republicans who eventually did confirm these these cabinet members

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but a

lot of Democrats had so many reservations because it was

because of these conversations right here.

They

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knew

exactly what this was going to look like and that, you know, while some of these cabinet members may have been qualified to do something in the administration, they were probably very unqualified to be...

the head of some sort of cabinet and department.

And that's essentially what we're seeing.

And I'm just, here's the thing.

I remember when Senate hearings used to be boring and nobody used to tune into

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them.

I

really miss those days.

Like I miss those days when it wasn't theater and nobody was talking about Senate hearings because those are just a normal process of government.

And even when they were contentious, there was no screaming and

yelling

and demonstrative stupidity.

It was just

Debate right, but we don't have that because to debate you both sides need to have their facts both sides need to be well informed and in these cases One side is well informed and whether you agree with the Republicans on the on the committees or not They're informed the Democrats are informed

the people from this administration that sit before those committees are not.

They have a list of talking points and God forbid you go any deeper with your questioning.

You will expose them as the doltes that they are.

And they always come in, and this is fact, because photographers have gotten photos of them while in the room.

They always come with a list of talking points and big bullets.

And who they're gonna yell

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at,

targets.

And these are proven facts.

These are photos that have been proven to be sitting on the table in front of these cabinet members during these processes.

And this is just how this administration works.

I miss boring government.

I miss boring government where they were just operating and we would get mad about a few different things.

That's what I miss.

Those

times are long gone.

They are.

Any other us

we need to know?

Yes, there is a few things.

In fact, we got to bring it right back here to South Dakota.

Going back to my childhood roots because we were talking about that.

Back to Wisconsin.

The federal government is suing the state of Wisconsin.

It's in response to a lawsuit that Wisconsin...

and filed last week.

Attorney General Josh Call is going after companies state officials believe are exploiting loopholes around gambling.

Now, the lawsuit names five companies, including Kalshi Poly Market, Robin Hood and Coinbase.

Call says because those prediction markets let people make investments tied to the outcome of sporting events, it's basically a way around sports gambling laws.

However, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission says probably didn't know that was actually

says that it is already regulating those companies.

The agency argues Wisconsin's lawsuit is now interfering with federal law.

The commission has filed similar lawsuits in response to actions other states have taken, including New York and Arizona.

Okay, so here's my question.

If this lawsuit is going to interfere with federal law, then why isn't federal law doing something to regulate

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it, right?

Well, that would be based on what the title of the commission,

is, you would think that that's what they were doing.

Doesn't really seem like that's happening considering what we're having, and this goes beyond sports betting, right?

We've seen... Oh, it's

everything.

It's everything about the war, right?

When bombs were going to drop in Iran.

Well, and this is, it goes back, we talked about this last week when Josh called, filed this lawsuit, and it does these, the...

the semantics that the companies are using, that they're not

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a

bet, they are a contract and a predictive thing.

It's very much I did not have sex with that woman kind of semantics.

Right.

You know, so we're trying to, they're parsing their words very carefully.

But yes, they, you can bet because you are betting.

You're betting.

You're placing a wager.

You're betting to win money.

Right.

So you can do it for everything.

Everything and that's why we're coming into we had the special forces soldier arrested last week because somehow he made a lot of money Betting that Maduro would be out of Venezuela by a certain date.

Yeah, and what do you know?

turns out that I Might have known a thing or two and actually cashed in fairly big on that one.

So I don't know

which is probably what the

They're saying, well, look, we are regulating.

We're finding things irregularities, but...

It's weird.

We also can't trace who those people are, how they're getting their information, and where the money is coming from.

Weird.

Weird.

That's not really regulation in my book, but what do I know?

No.

And it's because we know...

Attorney General Josh Call, he doesn't, he's not putting up with anything.

He's filing lawsuits all the time.

So, all right, let him come, let him see.

I would imagine maybe it's part of that intimidation move where you, all right, well, we're gonna sue you back.

Okay, sue me back.

More performance, more performance theater, perhaps.

It's all Kabuki, this whole government is Kabuki, which is a show, which leads us to show biz, which leads us to Swiper Stay.

It's six degrees of Swiper Stay.

Here

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on Daybreak, I'm Brian Noonan.

I'm Jamie Larson.

This is the Civic Media Network.

Good morning, thank you so much for joining us today.

It is 7.22 and it is time for Swiper's Day.

This is where we put the politics aside for just a few minutes and we talk a little bit more about pop culture with our senior producer Frank.

How are you today?

I'm doing great.

And Jamie, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you have not read about any of the stories that we have

today.

I actually have

it.

Why did you make them up?

No, because it is a slow news day in pop culture.

Oh,

see?

And I will, I'll be, I'm surprised to hear that.

I saw a number of headlines this morning that I breezed right by.

I didn't even read them, but I saw a name and I was like, nope.

I

was tied up with so many things yesterday that I did not have a chance to even try to avoid anything.

I just had to avoid everything.

So I'm excited to hear what you have for us today.

Well, good.

Everybody welcome into swipe or say I'm going to read some pop culture headlines and Jamie and Brian are going to have to decide to either stay and hear more or swipe on to the next one in the event of a tie.

Producer Parker gets to be the tiebreaker.

Story number one, pop stars ex-boyfriend speaks out to clear his name.

Oh, this could be a

new

one.

Normally I would swipe on this, but since Frank said it was a slow day, I'm

sure he doesn't have a lot on

the bench.

So I'm going to stay.

I don't want

to

put

on

your pity stay.

Yeah, it's a pity stay.

100% pity stay.

We'll help you out today.

Thanks, guys.

So we have finally heard from Barry Kjogan about his split with Sabrina Carpenter.

Now, Kjogan was accused of cheating on Sabrina.

However, that was an unconfirmed rumor.

And his accused side chick did make a video at that time denying it.

However, is that her

official title?

the accused side,

accused

side piece.

Yes.

I think that's

it.

All right.

So he just appeared on a podcast this past weekend and said, I'm not asking for people to become my fan and like me because that's not normal either, but I'm asking for people to stop assuming and also just stop jumping on this narrative and attacking me and dragging me down in any way you can involving my parents who are no longer with me.

Just absolutely disgusting and vile.

There's videos on TikTok literally going, I hate him.

Wow.

I mean, he's got a point.

Fans, take things just a little too far.

Y'all like bullying thing is a problem, right?

It is.

Other than like Justin Bieber, because we see this kind of fierce devotion from fans of Beyonce and Taylor Swift

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and Sabrina

Carpenter.

Do we see that for male celebrities?

Are there groups of women who are that?

Or men fans, like it doesn't matter.

I think there's a strong faction of people that right now, actually, this is a really good point you bring up, Brian.

Right now, the internet split between Michael Jackson defenders and people pointing out a lot of flaws with the new movie.

So there's that's one male artist.

I think Chris Brown also has a sector of fans that really defend him.

But you're right, for the most part, male artists don't really get that.

And Barry Kogan's an actor, so I think people just disassociate him with his roles.

Back to Chris Brown several years ago when that whole Rihanna dust up came and where she ended up with a black eye, it was appalling even then how many people defended him in that moment saying that, you know, she probably was to blame and,

you know, he's got a

temper and, you

know,

it was so weird.

I was like,

OK, that was not

the

reaction I expected.

With the cancel culture in effect, you would think Chris Brown would be towards the top of that list.

However, he's going on tour with Usher right now.

So

there you go.

Lonely Island star reveals the SNL host that made him uncomfortable.

Now, for those of you that don't know, the Lonely Island is a comedy troupe that did all the digital shorts during like the mid 2000s.

Oh, I like a good SNL story.

We'll I'll stay.

Yeah, I'll stay why not?

All right any guesses on who the host was

that made the Lonely Island crew uncomfortable.

Yes.

Oh, it's gotta be Wow host could be funky.

Yeah, I'm a stone.

I'll just say I'm a stone.

It is not Emma Stone.

Okay, Jamie any

guesses?

Oh Gosh, no, I don't have any guesses

All right.

Well, Jorma Tacone, one of the boys of the popular Lonely Island comedy troupe, they're the guys that made I'm on a boat, has revealed which host it was and it was Kevin Spacey.

Oh, I

get it.

I forgot that he'd even hosted.

He didn't go into specifics about why he made him uneasy, but just said for some reason he felt the vibe was off.

I think we know.

I don't think they need to give any details.

If you've

paid

any attention to the Spacey story, you know why they were the vibe was off.

Right.

As Jamie alluded to, Spacey's been tied to multiple sexual assault allegations over the years, though he was cleared in a 2023 criminal trial in London.

Still cancel though.

Do we have time for one more?

Let's do one more, Frank.

Amazon looks to reboot the apprentice.

Oh, God.

And they do have a host in mind.

All right.

Listen, I'm going

to stay just because, you know, I'm hooking Frank up.

I don't like both

of those games.

Oh, thanks, man.

Amazon, Amazon

or the

U.K.

Parker is already in shambles today.

I don't want him to make any hard decisions, so we'll stay.

Thank you.

So the Wall Street Journal has reported that Amazon is discussing a potential reboot of The Apprentice, the show once hosted by Donald Trump before becoming the president twice.

Talks are reportedly in the early stages as the reboot isn't inactive development.

However, the person that is that they are eyeing for the role is Donald Trump, Jr.

to carry on in his father's footsteps.

Pass.

I want to go back.

I want to

retroactively go back and swipe.

I

don't want to hear that.

I don't want to say about that.

Why?

Oh,

never mind.

Because why not?

But we don't like Nepo babies.

Just remember that.

No Nepo babies.

Wow.

Well, Frank, for state today.

Thank you.

We're running out of time.

You're

welcome.

Left us with a horrible taste.

I know.

Enjoy.

Enjoy your fancy coffee cup.

Get your pinky.

All right.

When we come back, let's, we are going to relive the Supreme Court's decision yesterday with the senior director from the center for American progress.

I'm Brian noon and she's Jamie Martin.

So this is daybreak on the civic

media network.

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Now more daybreak with Brian and Jamie.

Good morning.

Thank you so much for joining us on this Thursday morning.

Cooler temperatures today.

Lots of sunshine though.

We'll take it because we can use a little dry out in the state of Wisconsin.

It's 735 right now.

My name is Jamie Martinson.

And thanks for being here on Brian Noonan.

Yesterday, the U.S.

Supreme Court's conservative majority handed Republicans their biggest victory yet in the perpetual battle to control the House of Representatives and state houses across the country.

The 6-3 ruling effectively gutted the Voting Rights Act's requirements.

requirement that districts be drawn to give minority voters a chance to elect representatives of their choosing.

Joining us now to discuss the court's decision and the impact it will have is Devin Ombres.

He's a senior director of courts and legal policy for the Center for American Progress.

Devin, thanks for being here this morning.

We appreciate your time.

Can you give us a little background on the case that led to the court's decision yesterday and the legal basis for the decision that they made?

Sure, Louisiana Calais versus Calais has been going on for several years at this point and the court actually heard the case last year and decided to punt again to this year with a new question.

It came down because

Louisiana after the last census redrew their districts in a way that a lower federal court found violated section two of the Voting Rights Act because Louisiana has about 33% of their population are black people and they only had one district that was majority minority controlled for Congress and so the court said

This is unconstitutional under the Voting Rights Act.

You have to redraw it.

And so they redrew a second map.

And about three years ago, this very Supreme Court said that Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act is constitutional.

We're not going to rejigger the rules.

And so based on that, that's why the map was redrawn to get a second majority minority district.

Three white people said that this is discriminatory against us.

and sued the state.

The state defended it.

Last year, they defended it.

And then the court said, we're not going to rule on this.

We're going to punt till next year, rework the question, and hurt it again.

And this time, they said, oh, no way, even though Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act is amended in 1982 says that it is discriminatory effect that matters, we're going to change all of the law, all of the originalist tinkering,

all of our analysis on this and say that you must prove discriminatory intent in drawing lines for congressional and state legislative maps and turn everything on its head, our originalism, the Constitution, the very law

itself.

who was being discriminated against in this Louisiana case, those three people, and they proved that they were able to prove that, how do they prove that they're being discriminated against?

Were they in those districts?

This is what I don't get for the Supreme Court to reverse themselves and show that there had to be intent to discriminate.

Where was

that intent?

They didn't even take up that question.

They didn't even answer it on that question.

And also, I'm 99.99999% sure that the Voting Rights Act wasn't written in a racially neutral manner.

It was intended to prevent white folks from discriminating against black and brown folks.

So this is basically reversing every argument made under the 14th, 15th amendments and the VRA.

And these three white folks said,

know you're actually discriminating against us.

But the court didn't even touch that in this decision.

They said that Section 2 of the VRA does not require proportional representation.

So even though more than a third of Louisiana's population is black, the VRA doesn't require that they have to have two out of six districts represented by people where represented by

uh districts where a majority of the voters or a large percentage of the voters are black and therefore the state can gerrymander based on politics and race doesn't they're almost saying that race doesn't matter anymore in gerrymandering it's it's a very weird and technical decision but they say that black people vote for democrats but we're gerrymandering on the basis of

partisanship, not race, and therefore the fact that they're black and good for Democrats doesn't matter.

We get to gerrymander anyway.

Devin, I want to take a step back for just a moment because for anybody who's listening to this this morning and completely appalled but doesn't really understand maybe the history or the context of this, explain to us in the simplest terms what essentially the Voting Rights Act did and why it started essentially.

Because I think that's being missed for a lot of people in some of this because this Louisiana case has been going on for so long at this point.

I mean, so the Voting Rights Act was passed in the 1960s because Black people in the South were incredibly discriminated against post-reconstruction with Jim Crow.

I think in Mississippi, 6% of the Black population was registered to vote.

And there were poll taxes, there was violence, there was blatant discrimination.

And Congress finally said, we recognize that this is a major problem.

And we need to fix it.

And so they created section five of the Voting Rights Act that said that required districts that had previously discriminated against to draw lines that were racially appropriate so that black people and brown people could have a chance of electing their preferred representative.

And that got struck down 10 years ago.

Justice Roberts wrote the opinion on that.

And at the time, Justice Ginsburg said, you're throwing away your umbrella in the rain.

This has worked.

This has worked.

And we're getting rid of it.

And that's exactly what they're doing again.

Section two of the Voting Rights Act has allowed representation, allowed black and brown people to vote for the people they prefer.

And this is, again, throwing the umbrella out in the rain, because it is projected that

Southern states could redraw up to 25 black and brown majority districts out of Congress.

They could draw out over 191 state legislative districts and they can do it in ways that they say are that this Supreme Court now says if you say it's based on partisanship and not on race that is perfectly permissive and the only way that you can prove

that is a violation of section two is if somebody writes an email that says we are only doing this based on race that's the only thing that will allow or that will prove evidence that violates section two it's just absolutely wild

if there are if they're redrawing it allegedly on just partisanship how do you account for people of the other party in that state who now have no

representation, whether they're black or white.

If you're in a Republican state and they're drawing all the districts to favor Republicans, where is someone supposed to go if they live in that state?

Well, the Supreme Court four or five years ago in a case called Rucho said that partisan gerrymandering, though unconstitutional, is not justiciable, which means we can't touch it.

We're not allowed to discuss it.

So the only way to overcome that is just sheer masses to the polls.

And let's see, Louisiana has already delayed their primaries based on the decision yesterday so that they can redraw their maps.

Florida passed yesterday.

Yes, they were ready.

They passed.

They drew four Democrats out of Congress yesterday.

But the kicker is...

I think you've seen some discussion about this.

It's called dummy Mandarin where you draw so many seats in your favor that it dilutes even your voting base and you could end up losing more seats than you intended.

So I think there is a concern among folks in Texas.

There is a concern among Republicans in Florida that these new districts are so skewed as to really limit

the voting base in in those states and in potential wave years which 2026 could be as gas is now passing four dollars

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and

fifty cents a gallon and companies are getting billions of dollars in tariff rebates but the american people are not that people are fed up and you're gonna end independence and could break the opposite way and you could see a very very high turnout among democrats and it could end up backfiring

So I mean, that's the hope, but it takes a lot more effort to overcome that when you have to overcome three, four point deficits in every district as opposed to actually having districts where people are, where there's a battle of ideas and people get to select their representatives rather than representatives getting to select.

their voters, which is exactly what's happening now.

We're talking with Devin Ombres.

He is the senior director of courts and legal policy for the Center for American Progress, americanprogress.org, if you want to check out some of his work.

We're already seeing this tit for tat in redistricting, right?

We've seen this nationally.

Is this, in your opinion, going to, and you already mentioned Florida being on the ready yesterday, we've talked a bit about some of the other states, how is this going to accelerate that trend?

And for the midterms coming up in November,

Some states are probably somewhat safe.

But what does this look like beyond for 2028's presidential election in your mind?

So for folks way smarter than me have already opined on this.

But for 2026, Georgia, Tennessee, potentially Missouri could redraw.

For most of the other states, it would require rerunning an election.

And that's going to be a hot mess if that happens.

And it's going to be really hard to do.

But in 2028,

in 2030 it is going to really really it could really really skew the way that congress is made up because it's going to give all the other southern states the ability to redraw and then you're going to see a race on the left in in blue states to completely redraw and i think we could we could all just disarm democrats in congress have been pushing for a national ban on partisan gerrymandering

For a decade, I wrote about this a decade ago and how it can actually be functionalized.

And all the Democrats have voted for it.

They've been putting it up a long time ago.

The Republicans have not.

And it would nice to be able to see a real battle of ideas rather than a battle of who can draw the best maps.

So it's really going to screw up congressional representation and state legislative representation, especially in the South, moving forward.

So before we let you go, to make that happen, what you said, the federal ban against gerrymandering, it would just take some Republicans to come over and vote for it along with the Democrats.

The blueprint is in place to change this so we could put it into all this.

It's been in place for a long time, but you need some bipartisan support, especially in the Senate.

And folks in the Senate recognize that they have, you know, it's in their own interest not to do it because power seeks power and that's what they're doing.

What do we have for time here, Parker?

About a

minute left.

I don't want to throw a big question at you, Devin, but with about that minute left, what is a misconception right now as people listen to this coverage and how this plays out?

What is some sort of misconception that you want to make sure people understand about what's happening right now that maybe they're not getting the full grasp of right now?

Sure.

I think the one thing that people need to understand is that this Supreme Court is incredibly partisan, and Justice Roberts and Justice Alito have been fighting their entire careers to end the Voting Rights Act, and that the only way out of this, the only way to actually bring about a stable, multicultural, and true democracy is Supreme Court reforms.

That's where we need to be looking.

Supreme Court reforms 100%.

And I think gerrymandering, there's two original sins in this country.

Slavery, gerrymandering.

You get rid of gerrymandering and a lot of things improve.

Well, Devin, thanks so much for joining us.

Devin Ombres is the Senior Director of Courts and Legal Policy at Center for American Progress, americanprogress.org.

Have a great day, Devin.

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What you're eating and drinking, yes, that is the key.

I, man, there are so many treats.

And yesterday, the State Fair rolled out their finalist for the Sporkies and Drinkies.

Love

it.

And if you're new to Wisconsin and you maybe say, what?

Sporkies and Drinkies are the highlighted award-winning food and drinks.

Sporks, you know, because you use a sport.

Right.

And drink.

If I have to explain what drink he means to you, I don't want to hang out with you.

You and I are not going to be friends.

But the four drinkies at eight Sporky finalists are from a wide collection of vendors, both new to the state fair and returning contenders.

The winner will be chosen by a panel of local celebrity judges on August 4th.

One day, I hope to be part of that panel.

Sounds like a dream gig, doesn't it?

It

sounds great.

And it's not just for bragging rights.

They say, according to the longtime MC from WISN12TV in Milwaukee, it can bring in as much as $150,000 in surge business for the place that wins in the sporkies and drinkies.

And I always try

because all the years I've been working in Wisconsin, I always then try to find these sporkies and drinkies when

I get to the fair.

Oh yeah, it's super fun.

Because I made my list.

It's like a scavenger hunt at that point.

Yes, and I'm always looking.

So there's some good ones, Jamie.

There are.

Do you have?

I mean, I know we're going to talk about this list, but just going off of what we have, starting with the sporkies, was there one of these that just caught your attention and already you're like, oh, I am on a hunt to come fair time?

Yes, I want the Bayou Crunch Cup

from

the Exotic Meat Grill.

It's fries, Cajun coleslaw, and alligator nuggets with breaded crawfish bites

and a

whole crawfish.

That sounds amazing.

I

love to suck the head.

Parker, that's a term.

Not a euphemism.

That's a real

term.

It is a real term.

If you

eat crawfish, you know.

Anybody who's had crawfish or mudbugs, you know you suck the head.

I'm just looking at his face.

I don't

think you can say that.

Have you ever

seen a crawfish?

You can, because that's

what you do.

You break the

crawfish

in half.

You eat the meat out of the tail and suck what's out of the

head.

Then you

suck, did

you

suck the

head?

Yeah, that makes sense, okay.

I'm learning.

Your day has been in shambles already.

You're living in a box.

You're covering up windows with cardboard.

And now you're learning about Crock.

Now you're afraid that I

violated FCC rules, which I

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have

not.

I was not saying that

for purient interests.

I was saying that because that's how you eat croff.

I also want

to get the El Pastore pizza.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, no, I was looking at that too.

That sounds amazing.

I'm always going to go with something a little bit more sweet.

So I looked right away at the sweet lemon berry cheese curds from from the Saz's barbecue.

Ellsworth Creamery White Cheddar Cheese Curds fried and tossed in a cinnamon sugar mix before

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being

finished with a sweet raspberry sauce and a side of sweet lemon zest cream whip.

Which, hello, that sounds amazing.

That's like, that's like savory and dessert all in one.

I can get down with that.

That does sound really good.

And I'm going to wash it down with a Tilta Spirits

old-fashioned sipper club offering.

It's ruby grapefruit and

key

lime juices combined with ginger beer and finished in a smoke box with hickory and torched

rosemary.

That sounds amazing.

Very good, doesn't

it?

It does sound very, very good.

I also think the hot honey chicken lemonade from deep fried mashed potatoes on a stick sounds really good.

You're so hungry.

Lemonade sweetened with Mike's hot honey and garnished with two chicken nuggets for your drinking

pleasure.

one, but

two.

Well, this is nice because then maybe you've had sporkies and drinkies all day, but you're still a tiny bit peckish

while you're

thirsty.

You go, ah, I have a beverage and a small snack.

And I can now make my way to

the end of the fairground.

You're going to love this.

Mr. Plow King chiming in on our YouTube chat says, these options sound way better than the bowl of mini-wheats I'm having for breakfast.

Yeah, Mr. Plocking.

I don't doubt it.

And I'm, listen, that's no shade on your mini-weeds.

Come on, a

Tingo tango chicharron.

Right.

Which is crispy honey, habanero pork rinds topped with chicken tinga, pickled red onions, queso fresca, cojita cheese, sweet and spicy candied jalapenos and French cilantro.

Or how about some cookie butter coffee float, vanilla ice cream with cookie butter infused iced coffee combined in a biscoff cookie rimmed cup and then topped with cookie butter drizzle and a biscoff cookie.

I mean, come on, biscoff cookies are amazing.

I love them on my Delta flights, but like that.

Come on, I'm down.

There's a lot of, in the Sporkies, a lot of focus on sort of Mexican or South American

food, which I like.

Yeah, I love that too.

My only fear is 100 degree day at the fair eating a lot of spicy foods.

You're gonna be really sweaty.

Yeah, it could be uncomfortable.

That's when you

go in the evening, right?

Like, go in the evening, sun starts to set, then it's not quite as sweaty, it's still a little warm, so you still feel like you can go get your Tilt-A-Spirits from the zipper club, but at the same time, it's not quite as sweaty because the sun's not beaten down on you.

You've got to plan these things out.

I'm going to bring up one more sporky that's going

to have

Parker panicked.

Deep fried or chateau balls from Badger Bites.

The description is Parker, these

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balls are topped with

cinnamon sugars drizzled with dulce de leche, sauce and chocolate sauce before being topped with mini chocolate chips, toasted coconut, and sweet fried

plantain

chips.

Oh boy.

That sounds amazing.

Parker, have you been to the State Fair?

I've actually not,

no.

Oh my god.

What?

How have I, listen,

what?

All right, we need an outing

to the

state.

The state fair is unbelievable.

We're going to go find every single one of these sporkies and drinkies just for you, Parker.

And then we're going to make you suck the head over 30

years.

Then

we're going to make you suck the head of the crawfish.

All

right.

And I'll have some of that.

What are they, Badger?

What?

Better bites.

Yeah, first you gotta suck the heads.

Yeah, those are spicy and then you eat the balls because they're sweet.

That's right.

Yes.

That's right.

It sounds very good.

I am hungry now.

Are you are you still with it?

Are you still afraid of our FCC compliance this morning?

Usually.

Okay.

He has no faith in us.

He has no faith in us.

On my end, it's well-placed.

Yours, I don't know why he doubts you, but

We'll see what happens.

Hour 3 coming up, so if you're listening on WMDX, sayonara suckers, no, we miss you.

We want you to stay with us.

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So you can do that.

If not, enjoy Stephanie Miller and we will talk to you tomorrow, but we'll talk to everybody else.

After the news, this is Daybreak.

I'm

Brian Newton.

I'm Jamie Martenson, 759.

This is the Civic Media Network.

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