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It's Daybreak with Brian Noonan and Jamie Martinson.
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It is Friday.
Big enough.
Oh, big announcement.
Jamie is going to be on vacation next week.
So she will not be here.
Big announcement.
I'm sure you have lots of relaxing fun planned.
The first couple of days are going to include a lot of housework because I'm so behind.
Today after I do a bunch
work to catch up before I leave.
I've got to get my husband ready to go for a couple of days.
He's got a trip planned to Las Vegas for the National Broadcasters Association big convention that they have in Vegas.
Tried to get out of that one, but he's got too many meetings planned.
So he's like, I have to just go because it was going to be too much to cancel everything and move things around.
So then once he gets home, he'll be home for about a whole 12 hours.
And then we're going to get on a plane.
And then we have some
meetings that we have to do for our personal business
I know you like to, I know you like to research.
I have researched the definition of vacation and what you have just said is nothing like a vacation according to dictionary.com vacation.
It's a noun, an extended period of leisure and recreation, especially once spent away from home or in traveling.
So none of what you said, you're just giving up this job to do other jobs for a week.
I'll try really hard to get a little extra sleep.
But it's so funny because my day gets so jam-packed.
My day usually starts at about 4 a.m., usually wraps up around, I don't know, 10, 10, 30 at night.
And in between there, there's always all of these lofty goals.
And, you know, if you have, if you work, if you've got kids in the house, if you, you know, just are a normal human, you get lofty goals during the day.
Oh, I'll get that done.
I know I'll knock this project out and then I can get back to that.
No, no, it just never happened.
So I have all these things that have just kind of piled up and I'm actually kind of excited to get them done.
I like to check things off a list.
It makes me happy.
Dude, do you know how many times?
Then I want you to very carefully listen to what I'm about to say.
Yes.
Your life is so much easier if you don't.
quote unquote set lofty goals.
lofty goals.
I was worried about all the meetings on the vacation.
You can just relax.
You work hard at your job.
Obviously you work hard.
You know, that's that's a given.
But then I don't know, I've adopted I should be I should be your age Parker because I have adopted this work life balance mentality.
I enjoy it.
I enjoy working hard and then I enjoy doing nothing.
to
throw
But do they say it with cash?
If they really needed you, if they really needed you, this is, and Parker, here's another tip.
And do what I say, don't do what I've done.
I have good advice.
I just didn't follow it myself.
Because of course I did not set lofty goals.
But you know, every
Everybody needs, needs you at work.
Like, I know we're all needed here at work, the three of us, and Frank, but Frank doesn't come on camera, so he could be sleeping right now.
He could be.
He could be.
He could be, I don't know.
But we still need him.
Frank is still needed.
But, you know, a lot of employers, and this is not specific to our bosses, I see it with my wife, who got...
who actually got reprimanded for doing her job the other day.
She had to stay late because the attorneys she works with needed something finished.
So the firm has been very strict about no overtime.
Well, her attorneys needed something done, so she worked like 20 minutes after quitting time.
And she actually got called in the office and reprimanded for work.
Because she did
And I was fascinated.
I still don't understand this, and this is not you, Jamie.
Please don't feel targeted.
I don't understand anybody who throws their laundry in the basket and just leaves it there.
I don't, it's, it's, it's, I swear it's never the
I'm going to also be honest, there are some days that at the end of the day, I'll look at the Lepaille Laundry and it'll be about eight o'clock at night.
And I'll be like, you know, here's what I could do right now.
Cause there are some nights that I do get to, to be done a little bit earlier.
I'll look at it and I'll be like,
I,
yes, I'll look at it and I could be like, I could fold this right now or.
Or I could just sit down and mindlessly scroll through my phone and pretend like there's nothing happening in my life.
And so usually laziness wins and I take the ladder of those two options.
So it is technically my fault.
It is technically
Who's personality are you more like?
I was gonna say...
Who do you think is right?
But that's not true.
Everybody's got a different thing.
Are you more a Jamie or a me when it comes to your laundry 8 5 5 7 5 civic 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 because the other thing is and I we had no intention of I had no intention of talking about laundry this morning.
But this is something like my wife will leave something in the dryer and not go and I do I would say I do 90% of the law.
Sure.
But every once in a while she'll throw something in and
you know, like I've said, I take it out of the dryer,
I
it
Once the dryer, once the buzzer goes off, you empty that dryer.
Sure.
No, then I got stuff that I'm throwing in the dryer and I open it up and there's stuff in there and I'm like, I know I didn't put this in the dryer.
Somebody, oh, somebody's going to pay.
And
But yeah, aren't your clothes all wrinkly then?
Yes.
Thank you, Parker.
That's crazy to do that separate.
Thank you.
But now see, see, Alicia on the social says she's like Jamie.
It all comes down to time and energy.
But again, it's one fluid motion.
I know.
As it comes out of the dryer, you fold the t-shirt, you lay it in the basket, you take the two socks out, you put them together, you do.
I can't imagine rummaging through a clean laundry basket trying to find my clothes.
Oh, quite a bit because we all have our own baskets and then towels get done at least every other day.
So.
Okay, yeah, but still, it's...
Let me also be clear, I do
all of the laundry in the house.
Nobody in the house does their own laundry.
Dexter will do his own laundry only if it's an emergency and I am like, dude, I am just too swamped today.
I can't even leave this desk.
Then he'll throw it in.
One time, they either take the dog for a walk, they do their own laundry, maybe somebody takes the dishes out of the dishwasher and puts dirty dishes in that doesn't have to be me.
I stayed at home for a really long time.
So my family is a little spoiled because this was what I did.
And so now they haven't really caught up with the fact that I'm just as busy as you are.
We are.
And when we come back, the question for you this morning is,
Where do you stand on animals being used for scientific experiments?
There's a little protest coming up this weekend and we'll talk about that and so much more.
It's a Friday edition of Daybreak.
I'm not doing the laundry today and my lofty goals are very low hanging.
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Uh, Jamie, we had a, we
We're talking about the laundry before we get into the question, though, that I want you to start thinking about.
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Where do you stand on animals being used for scientific experiments?
But we were talking about something much less serious or in some cases much more serious, the laundry and towels.
She did.
She's texting this morning from Fitchburg and she says she knew we were changing the subject.
We were going to we were going to talk about
something different, but she's like, as far as towels go, they should last at least a week because you have a top towel and a bottom towel.
Never the twain shall meet and you're good.
When we're at home,
My wife and I each use one towel.
When we're in a hotel, my wife will use so many towels.
Every time I book a hotel room before she goes, make sure you ask for extra towels.
How many?
I've seen you here.
You don't use all these towels.
Chrissy must live in like, she's like Madeline at the Plaza.
She's just living her best life with top towel and a bottom towel.
OK.
I honestly think it's awful, especially when we're going to talk the story we are, because we're going to talk about the beagle breed.
And beagle breeds are just, they can be a huge pain in the butt.
I have a heart beagle breed.
But they are just the sweetest, goofiest, most loving dogs ever.
And I think part of this problem is that this story does revolve around dogs.
And the story we're talking about before I get into what I'm thinking too.
Uh, there's an animal rights activist planned rescue of dogs from the town of Blue Mounds.
Uh, it's a breeding and research facility.
Well, ahead of that, the Dane County Sheriff's Office is warning participants not to break the law.
I make sense, but sure.
Sheriff Calvin Barrett also promises that his office and state regulators will do a quote unquote rock walkthrough of Ridgeland farms and quote if any violations are observed during this visit or through our ongoing work, a fair and impactful investigation will be conducted.
There is a group that's called the coalition to save the Ridgeland dogs and they've been gearing up for weeks to bring about 2000 people to the farm on Sunday morning.
And they have a plan to break into the facility and take possession of the approximately 1,900 beagles that are kept there.
Well, you
Because it is private property, right?
It is private property.
I would imagine it's a licensed facility if they have state regulators going through there and it's a business and all of that.
The sheriff said, I empathize deeply with the strong feelings and perspectives of community members who care passionately about the welfare of animals, but a gathering of that magnitude, storming private property would create significant safety risks and force the DCSO to respond accordingly to protect lives, property and public order.
So I think there's a couple of different things going on here.
One,
There is the basic law and order.
You can't just storm somebody's business or their home or their land and steal things that are in there.
Yeah, that's not a protest
That being said, I also eat meat like it's going out of style.
I also know that if my family members needed some medical treatment or a medication or something that had been tested on animals, I would want that.
I also think there is a line where you can do this to a certain point and be humane.
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Now back to Brian and Jamie.
Happy Friday.
Thank you so much for joining us.
A quick little weather update.
In portions of the state today, there is some dense fog.
So as you are leaving, getting ready for work and for your day, in certain portions, especially northeast Wisconsin, the fog should eventually lift by about 9 AM.
there is a dense fog advisory in effect for portions of central and much of northeast Wisconsin.
So please take it easy out there this morning because it was a little foggy coming in today in the dark.
I know as I got closer to downtown from where we lived, it got a little bit better, but it's definitely not great in some areas.
And this is just going to be all before a potential another big line of severe
You're right.
It's
about five o'clock, they say.
That's when the big storms are going to come in.
Across central Wisconsin, up into Green Bay, where they don't need any more water.
You're going to get a lot more rain later tonight.
But they're saying in central Wisconsin, extreme thunderstorms hail the whole nine.
So be careful winds of 70 miles an hour.
So if you could knock off early today.
Then we're talking temperatures of near 80 today to like 40 to 45 tomorrow, which is why we're going to get another line of storms today.
You know, it's weird when hot, warm air and cold air combine, this goes back to science kids, Bill Nye the science guy, if you need the little remind.
when the warm air and the cold air collide, something has to give.
And unfortunately, we're going to see more severe weather, which we don't need any more of here in the state of Wisconsin.
So
We don't control the weather.
Unfortunately, what we do control is our opinion.
So in your opinion, has your opinion of law enforcement changed with all the ice activity and all the headlines regarding ice?
Can you parse them out to say, well, my local department.
Does X, while ICE does Y, has your opinion changed?
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Real quick, this happened just last night before we get into two more specific stories about ICE.
Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons is stepping down at the end of May after leading the agency during a major ramp-up in arrests and deportation.
The new Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen announced that yesterday last night, basically.
Lyons is a veteran of the federal agency.
He was tasked with overseeing the administration's mass deportation plan.
His time, of course, drew scrutiny because of all the horrible
things that went on, including questions from lawmakers about the deaths in ICE custody, how the agency is handling detentions, not clear yet who will replace them.
I'm sure it's going to be someone vastly overqualified.
If this administration runs true to form, probably somebody who's never here doesn't even know what ICE means.
But that'll be good.
So they have not had a Senate confirmed leader since the Obama
I didn't know that.
I didn't realize that ICE had been without an actual confirmed leader for that many years.
We're going on almost 20 years that nobody has actually been confirmed by the Senate to lead ICE.
I found that actually fascinating.
That was one of those little things that I guess just slipped in the cracks of things.
had no idea that we're just placing people in there and see what
How much attention did we pay to ICE before they started occupying cities?
We just knew there was an immigration agency, Border Patrol and all that.
We knew that, but they were kind of just doing their job.
And yes, they were before people jump in there.
They deported more people under.
Yes, yes, yes, they were.
That's not the issue.
Right.
Obama administration, Biden administration, they were all doing deportations.
We get it.
A lot of deportations.
They did it humanely.
They didn't kill American citizens.
They weren't arresting people and holding them without any access to lawyers or family or anything else.
They just, they found the people that needed to be deported and they sent them home.
Which is kind of how it's supposed to work, right?
Yeah, that's how the agency is set up
and you know Maybe that's just it maybe because the agency is supposed to just be there doing their job that maybe you know Past presidents haven't seen the need for a Senate confirmed leader.
Well, it looks like maybe we need a little bit more oversight though in this administration I hope somebody I hope somebody does come in and his Senate confirmed now I don't have faith that the Senate will do the right thing and it will be the right candidate because the GOP
he always falls in line.
However, I do hope that maybe there
We have other ICE news.
We do.
This is pretty big.
This one is going to make some more headlines.
The U.S.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agent was charged with assault for allegedly pointing a gun at the heads of two motorists in Minneapolis in February that, according to the Hennepin County District Attorney's Office yesterday, according to the prosecutor's complaint, Gregory Morgan Jr.
who was an ice agent in Minneapolis, was ending his shift.
Jamie, that means when people leave work when they're done.
Ending his shift on 15.
I think you just need to be reminded what people do when they're done with work.
They go home and they don't work again till the next day.
He was driving back to the Whipple Federal Building, a person allegedly cut him off because welcome to traffic.
Morgan was trying to pass them.
and the agent then allegedly brandished his firearm.
I don't think you can do that.
The
Hedepin County attorney, Mary Moriarty, said in a news conference yesterday that Morgan has not been taken into custody, but hopes he'll turn himself in.
She said yesterday that Morgan was driving illegally on the shoulder, appearing to bypass
older traffic, which is also something that you really don't want to see happen.
Especially if it's somebody in law enforcement.
The complainant told police that they did not know the person driving the other car was an ICE agent until investigators told them that's at least according to the prosecutor's complaint.
And I mean, this would make sense that these things are happening because we know that these ICE agents are being given huge bonuses to sign on to ICE.
There's very little training, there's very little oversight as to what they're doing.
There was a whistleblower just about a month ago or so who was involved in the process of basically training, training, we'll put that in air quotes, these agents, and they weren't even being explained the Constitution properly.
It was literally a 10 hour program that was taking about
these are a lot of real power hungry people that are as you said are being paid more than I don't mean to generalize but I will they're getting paid a lot of money probably more than a lot of them were making before ICE started recruiting and a lot of them seem very angry very full of themselves and satisfied that they now are in charge
when really they're not plus we also know most ice vehicles were not marked right so if you see a black charger speeding down the shoulder and somebody points a gun at you uh you don't know who that is you know some lunatic so it's good that they're finally you know
I'm glad Hennepin County is doing what they're doing and trying to charge this guy as anybody else would be charged.
So before people start screaming, well, they're just singling out these ICE agents because it's a woke liberal activist state with the woke liberal courts.
No, if you or I pointed a gun at somebody while we were driving, you can bet we would be arrested on the spot.
Absolutely.
We've got John from Oshkosh chiming in over on the text line this morning listening on WISS.
He says if any law enforcement agency masks themselves by default.
they can't be trusted.
I mostly trust local law enforcement unless they are actively working with ICE.
And it is a good point.
And I think that's going to be a larger conversation as things progress.
We don't know what DHS under Mark Wayne Mullen is going to look like.
We know what it looked like under Christie Nome.
He's been on the job for what, about a week and a half, something like that.
I'm going to say that for a lot of what DHS does, and I'm just speculating, time will tell, I think it's going to be business
this as usual.
But this masking of the ICE agents to me has been very strange.
And I think a bigger conversation is going to be how many local communities and sheriff's departments and local police stations are actually working with ICE because we're also starting to see that more and more even in Wisconsin.
There's a lot of contracts going out for detention, turning over of immigrants.
And obviously,
these county departments, these city departments are getting a lot of money from the federal government in order to have these contracts for detention and deportation because some of them come in to certain precincts or county jails and they are deported directly from there once they go through an entire process.
So I think that's gonna be a bigger conversation as we go forward.
Well, you brought up Wisconsin and ice arrest of people without convictions has grown sixfold in Wisconsin.
The the administration's immigration crackdown appears to have no signs of slowing down in Wisconsin.
In the first 13 months since Donald Trump took office for this second term, US immigration and customs enforcement has arrested more than three times as many people in Wisconsin compared to the last 13 months of Joe Biden's administration.
Most of that increase, Jamie came from a surgeon
interests of people without criminal convictions.
So the worst of the worst talking point is out the window.
More than six times as many, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel analysis of the latest data from ICE, which was published by the deportation data project.
So based on this data.
Immigration arrests in Wisconsin jumped significantly starting around June of last year and have risen steadily since.
As of March 9th, the latest data available, the Trump administration had arrested and detained over 1,600 under
My eyes are jumping.
1600.
Sorry.
There are 1600 immigrants.
The under Trump ICE is arresting on average twice as many people with criminal convictions each month, six times as many people with pending criminal charges and seven
times
We feel the need to justify opinions because you're always shouted down by the other side who immediately paints any disagreement as being unpatriotic, uncaring.
If your opinion and listen, there's a lot on the left that do that too.
If your opinion differs at all from them, they want to shout you down.
I have no problem
And I encourage people with criminal convictions who are here illegally to be arrested, detained, and deported.
But the troubling, what should trouble all of us is the number of people who are being held and arrested with zero cause.
Their only cause, they're brown.
And that is the truth.
If you're brown, or you're white, or you're black, and you have convicted crimes, you pay the penalty.
But come on, these numbers should be troubling to everybody in this state.
the train, we'll talk about that and get your thoughts.
It's Daybreak on the Civic Media.
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This is Wisconsin's Morning Conversation, a break with Brian and Jamie.
Thank you so much for joining us today on the Civic Media Network, a beautiful start to the day.
Of course, we are going to see some severe weather across the area and some parts of the state under a dense fog advisory this morning.
So please, as you're heading out the door this morning, take it easy.
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We'll access greater access to trains in Madison.
Encourage you to travel more.
I am always torn by this.
There's a part of me that thinks it'd be, oh, so romantic to take a train, a long train journey.
I think I've mentioned it before.
I've only taken one train journey and I swore I would never take it again.
And that was only from downstate Illinois to Chicago once, coming home from college.
And it was awful.
But then I think...
Oh, maybe I'll get one of those sleeper cars and I'll travel across the country like a very snazzy hobo and it'll be, it'll just be great.
once you
Because there's nothing.
It's just flat.
I just go.
And I also see there's always these ads for this train trip to go through British Columbia, through the mountains and stuff in these glass.
Looks amazing.
these and I'm like now see that would be cool because part of the only bad part of road trips when you're driving is you don't get to enjoy all the scenery so I think being on a train and having you know being surrounded by that would be beautiful well maybe not as scenic a trip would be from going
Minneapolis, Madison to Milwaukee and then on to Chicago.
This is this is big news.
We've been following the story since it started last year when they were expanding the train Amtrak was expanding from Milwaukee.
up to Minneapolis.
So they plan, Amtrak does, to restore passenger rail in Madison.
Those plans are proceeding in earnest, they say, and it potentially will transform Wisconsin's transportation landscape.
Service would start with an initial twice daily connection between Madison and Milwaukee by extending the existing Hiawatha line between Milwaukee and Chicago.
That came out on Tuesday at a public meeting.
The new 82-mile-long Hiawatha West line would include stops and people
Milwaukee and Watertown before reaching downtown Madison.
Now, would you go, would you take the train to go visit your son who lives in Milwaukee?
Sure.
I probably
And then, you know, sometimes you don't feel like doing the late night drive back.
So somebody kind of handles that for you.
So I'm always okay on the short trips.
It's really when you start getting into the long ones that I think of how daunting the task of getting from one place to another is.
And then once I get there, I'm fine.
I just don't really like the act of basically standing in line and being getting ushered around and then having to sit and wait for a long time to do.
things, just get the
issue
They're
for
the way and the remaining 20% will come from state or local dollars which I think is
probably, I mean, that's the other thing right now with the federal government, right?
You don't, if that money's not already allocated, which I'm going to assume that this money probably is coming from the infrastructure act, you've got to go through all of the red tape that way.
And then of course your local authorities are going to have to try to raise that money and leaders are going to have to try to raise that money and find it as well.
But I love this because it also raises the economy.
Right?
Oh, sure.
There's going to be a lot of construction jobs.
There's going to be people, people just coming into Madison for fun, people in Madison going to the other places just for fun.
This is the interesting thing, though, because Amtrak is saying part of the new route is because they see an increased demand for rail service in Wisconsin.
Interesting.
Is anybody Parker, are you clamoring for trains?
I
Madison to Milwaukee.
Suddenly it's not how I have to drive because taking the train, my wife takes the train into the city for work.
She loves it because she can
you know, you can just unwind for a minute.
She can get a little work done, she can read, she can fall asleep if she wants to.
She says, I only sleep in the morning because the train, I get off at the end.
I can't sleep on the way home because I may end up who knows where.
Missing your stop.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, that makes sense.
But I think
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