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Big Issues: Gerrymandering And Healthcare (Hour 2)
Daybreak w/ Brian and Jamie · Wed Apr 15, 2026
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Former Attorney General Pam Bondi could be charged with contempt of Congress after failing to appear for a scheduled deposition for her testimony in a long-running investigation into the federal government's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein investigation.
Bondi was issued a bipartisan subpoena for her testimony to the House Oversight Committee while she was serving as Attorney General.
She was scheduled to appear yesterday
But, you know, she got fired last week and the Justice Department says the subpoena no longer applies.
Contempt of Congress is a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail and fines up to $100,000.
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We haven't heard anything more about their links.
In other headlines this morning, stuff you need to know.
GOP State Representative Scott Allen announced yesterday he won't seek reelection after losing a bid for Waukesha Mayor last week.
Allen, who was first elected in 2014, is the 10th member of the Assembly to retire or decide to run for another office.
Allen said in a statement that he's taking a sabbat
from elected office.
The 62, 60 year old also served as Waukesha Alderman from 1998 until 2001.
Not only did we see Alan step down yesterday, but Senator Jesse James also decided to not run for reelection.
He is now the fifth state Senate member to say that he won't be running for reelection.
So a
just to a bigger story, which is why we're moving through the first two so quickly.
This is a story that hits close to Jamie's heart.
She loves to talk about gerrymandering.
She loves to talk about maps.
And yesterday, the Republicans in the state legislature said they are leaving the door open quote to continue meaningful dialogue with Governor Tony Evers on his call to ban partisan gerrymandering in Wisconsin.
But then
The governor was like, hey, you can leave the door open, but there's no room for negotiation anyway, because we need to pass this constitutional amendment that I proposed earlier this year, I being the governor.
He said, quote, there's nothing to negotiate because there's no room for compromise when it comes to making sure Wisconsinite's voices matter and their votes count.
So Jamie.
Is there any hope?
Why even bother?
Is this all theatrics?
I think when you look at what happened in Tuesday's election, right?
First and foremost, when Governor Evers signed this executive order, when he made the proclamation that he wanted this to happen in a state of the state, I think if you were watching from the outside, you always knew that the special legislative session was a stretch and that there was a pretty good chance it wasn't going to happen based on the previous actions of Speaker Voss, gaveling in, gaveling out, saying, sure, we'll come to the table.
I think there was always a little hope, though, that maybe even the Republicans could understand where the numbers were, what the maps had done to voters.
but then of course you lose hope pretty quickly because then you actually get everybody assembled, the Republicans don't show up.
Now I am hearing, and we're gonna actually be joined by Brittany Carloni.
She's the state government and politics reporter at Wisconsin Watch.
She's gonna join us at 8.30 this morning to break this down a little bit more and give us the bird's eye view of what's happening at the Capitol because I'm also hearing that they are supposed to try to convene another session Thursday of this week because the discussions are gonna happen that quickly.
I'm not really sure.
I think that's just it.
The writing is on the wall, I think, especially when you look at what's happening on the national level.
You're right, they did get a shellacking.
That was a 20-point win for Judge Chris Taylor over the conservative Judge Maria Lazar.
You are seeing what's happening in the national polling.
You are seeing the unpopularity of things like tariffs and how that's affecting people's checkbooks at home.
You're seeing the effects of polling regarding the Iran War.
You're seeing the effects of healthcare, people losing benefits.
And the very top of the party, President Trump, is the most unpopular president at this stage of a presidency that we've ever seen.
That doesn't really spell success.
The numbers are proving that out.
Yeah.
And we've talked about this before.
We've talked about it more on a national level than a state level, where if you can't win straight up, you always try to game the system.
And I think we see that.
Happening now where the Republicans think well because we control things for the moment if we get in and get those maps redrawn which proved to be Fairer not the fairest maps in the last elections things things didn't go Completely as they wanted to so now they're thinking if they can get in there and get these maps done Then maybe they have a shot
the
where there's been a special session being called.
They literally gaveled in, gaveled out, and they didn't even say we want further conversation.
They just gaveled in, gaveled out and went home.
There was nothing else.
There was absolutely nothing else.
So that is my little sliver of hope, that at least they have made the statement that we are not shutting this down.
We do want further discussion about this with the governor, with the leadership of the Democrats.
Speaker Robin Vos, Senate Majority Leader Devin Lameju, said that they are leaving this door open.
And so
I'm going to see that as the small little inkling that maybe they're going to come back to the table and here's why.
Because it all goes back to the people who are also resigning or saying they're not going to run again.
Senator Jesse James is a perfect example of this.
When he announced yesterday that he wouldn't be seeking reelection, I think if you're a Republican, that had to send some shockwaves because there are four districts considered in play this fall.
And Republicans have to win at least two of them to maintain their majority, which was 18 to 15 to start this season.
So with all of the announcements of people not returning or not running for reelection, the margins are slipping further and further.
So I think if you're the Republicans...
This is just me, my opinion.
I think actually going to the table and having those discussion behooves you in some sort of way, right?
Because your majority is slipping.
And you can say that we want the maps to go back to what they were.
People have seen what Farrah Maps are actually all about now.
They like the fact that you have to work.
They like the fact that you're
actually
And I think it's going to be worse for the party if you allow the maps to fall back to what they were.
prior to the current maps that they're using right now, which, by the way, those will expire at the end of the year, which is why the governor is pushing for this to happen now.
And I think that's the one thing that people have to understand, whether you're a Republican, whether you're a Democrat, it's never going to be a perfect system.
But the maps that we have right now that narrowed the margins in the Capitol for the Democrats, right?
it is much better than it was.
And it will never be perfect.
You are never going to be 100% happy with what it's going to look like because that is bipartisanship and that is what the negotiation process should be.
And that's what it should look like.
Both sides should be able to say at the end of the day, hey, we gave up some things, we got some things, but it looks better for our constituents doing it this
It doesn't take a cartographer or a political expert or anybody to look at this map and go, something's screwy here.
Why does this district all of a sudden go from a nice
an oval-shaped district, and then have a long, it's a very piece that comes out along one road, and then it juts up into a neighborhood, and then it comes back, it's like, no.
it is now a
So if I'm the Republicans and I'm serious, I'm getting my behind in a chair in the governor's office and his team and the leadership of the Democrats, and I'm figuring out a plan that works for both parties because you're probably not gonna do so well when you go in front of the Wisconsin Supreme Court with that majority now.
comfortable with the fact that anything's going to happen.
Because if I'm a Republican, I'm looking at the map now, and I'm not happy with the way the map looks now.
And so I'm not going to say, yes, let's codify this map, and this is the map going forward.
It's in the Constitution, and then it'd take two-thirds majority to make any kind of constitutional change.
I'm not going to give up with that.
And the governor is not going to seed any ground on taking this map and making it permanent.
Now, in the past, the gamble would be on the Republican side, well, we'll wait till after the elections, we'll be in good shape, and then we can change the map again at the end of the year.
But as you said, the writing is on the wall, you've got a lot of defections or retirements, however you want to paint these.
Suddenly,
the Republicans don't have that luxury of time and that luxury of the guaranteed majority.
So who's gonna, who's gonna blink and what would either side gain by blinking?
We're also going to be joined by Wisconsin Democratic Party Chair Devin Remacher later this week, where we're going to talk about this Supreme Court.
We're going to get into all of it.
You can guarantee that this is one of the biggest political fights happening in the state of Wisconsin right now.
Because both sides, as you rightly pointed out, aren't going to blink.
And I think the voters are kind of tired of talking about it.
I mean, that's the other thing, too.
Voters are tired of talking about fair maps.
They're tired of hearing the word gerrymandering.
We just want to be able to know that our vote counts when we get to the polls.
Voters
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I'm hanging in there, but I will say it always
I've got a tummy ache and the air conditioning is not really working here.
And I have like one hour of sleep.
But other than that, I'm doing, I know.
Other than that, I'm great.
Whenever I can leave Brian speechless right before a break, or if he has a lot to say, but he can't say it right
some
We really do.
And we're about to have even more interesting conversations with Swiper Stay.
I'm going to read some pop culture headlines.
Brian and Jamie are going to have to decide whether they want to stay or swipe on to the next one.
Parker will be the tiebreaker if we get there.
So we're going to move on to story number one and this may be the last or.
One of the last updates we have on this one.
But we have a Diana Roussini Mike Frable update.
Do we want it?
said
one.
It could be
stay.
Closure.
So Diana Roussini has officially resigned.
Resigned.
Frable resigned?
From The Athletic.
He has not.
So we do.
She actually posted the entire, uh, letter that she, uh, put in.
She said, please accept this letter as my resignation from the athletic effective immediately.
You and I have already publicly addressed the recent attacks against me and I have nothing to add publicly to what we have said.
I've covered the NFL with professionalism dedication throughout my career.
All this stuff, she goes on to say the athletic supported me unequivocally and express confidence in my work and pride in my journalism.
And for that, I am grateful.
However, in the days that followed, unfortunately, commentators and various media have engaged in self-feeding speculation that is simply unmoored from the facts.
facts.
Unmoored.
She went full journalist.
She's breaking out.
all the words.
I love it.
Well, that's why I say it's one of the last stories, because if either of those two things happen, you better believe we have to talk about it.
They're going
to try.
us
know.
But here's the interesting part.
The executive editor for the athletics said, you know, they supported her.
in everything that she was saying and then additional information emerged and that launched the investigation.
So we've yet to see what that extra stuff is.
And I saw Dave Portnoy, the founder of Barstool Sports.
I know he's a pompous talking head for the most part, but he did make a good point.
where he said, usually it's a weird resignation letter because
if you're under
investigation and you have nothing to hide, you go, yep, go ahead.
Look into it.
I'm writing this one out and I'm going to be right.
Okay.
This one.
That's not what she said.
She doesn't want to give this anymore steam, so she's just going to lose her dream job.
I'm just going to walk away.
So my question to both of you is.
How long before we get a Diana Rossini podcast?
Monday.
100%.
Yeah, she's not wasting any time.
No,
contact.
She can make it happen
Yep.
She'll be fine.
Moving on.
Controversial artists cancels upcoming concert in Europe.
Milwaukee head coach has beef with famous NBA reporter.
Oh, let's go.
We have to stay.
Parker, I know you're excited about this one.
So the beef between ESPN's Shams Charania and Bucks head coach Doc Rivers continues.
Rivers referred to Charania as emotional a few days ago and said he was the recipient of a revenge article.
Wow.
Well.
Shirania went on the Pat McAfee show on ESPN the other day and said, quote, if the bucks spent as much time dealing with their own internal problems as they did responding to accurate reports, they wouldn't be in the mess that they're in right
Oh, wow.
Throne.
Wow.
I'm just here to document and cover it the right way.
Parker, how bad is the buck situation coming from a fan standpoint?
good at
based off this, I know, I
I was going to say, everything's hunky dory when you're winning.
No.
Wow, shocker.
Food.
How much time do we have, Parker?
Time for one more.
We have one more, about a minute.
OK.
Food network stars in hot water.
Good.
Guy Fieri was caught on camera shaking Andrew Tate's hand at UFC 327 over the weekend.
But
was another incident.
It's the first time shaking his hand and being seen with him.
But no, if you've looked at Fieri closely and his allegiances, it's very much more skewed right.
was getting roasted on social media and said, I'm seeing all of your comments about the photo.
And all I can say is that I'm devastated.
He goes on to say, basically, he didn't know who he was shaking hands with.
Stop.
a cop out.
My
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My name is Jamie Martinson.
You know Wisconsin will elect a new governor this November.
And while the Republicans appear to have their candidate in place, Democrats have a crowded field of seven candidates.
candidates set to take part in the August 11 primary.
One of those candidates is Missy Hughes.
She served as the Secretary and CEO of the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation from 2019 until 2025.
She was appointed in 2019 by Governor Evers.
She's the first woman to hold that post.
Missy joins us now to share some of the details of her campaign.
Missy, thanks for being here.
We appreciate the time this morning.
Thank you so much.
I'm so glad to be here.
And one of the top issues for Wisconsinites and people across this country are access to and the high cost of health care.
So last month you released a 10 point plan that you would hope to institute if elected governor.
Can you share some of the highlights of that plan with us?
Yeah, and you're absolutely right Brian everywhere I go folks are talking about the costs of health care the challenges around health care It's so complicated and that's why I needed to have a 10-point plan because I really wanted to have a 360 degree view of how We were gonna approach and try to solve some of the problems.
So I'm really focused on costs
access and quality.
So first off, you know, we all know that the costs are really overwhelming when it comes to premiums and when it comes to the deductibles that hang over many of our heads, you know, just waiting for that for that boot to drop.
So I am proposing a public option that would be using our BadgerCare infrastructure.
We would expand BadgerCare so that every Wisconsinite has the opportunity to buy into that and to be able to afford that.
We'd also increase the opportunities for
income folks to be able to participate in BadgerCare.
The goal is making sure that everyone has access to affordable health care.
The second piece of my plan really focuses on reducing costs around prescription drugs and what insurance companies are doing to folks.
So we put caps on
prescription drugs that are chronic, you know, insulin, those things that folks need day in, day out, but also think about importing drugs from Canada.
We're seeing many states that are taking that up because it's just the best way to lower costs for our citizens.
We're also really thinking about
access and making sure that we have enough providers all around the state.
I live in rural Wisconsin.
We have challenges where you have to drive for an hour for simple surgeries or for OBGYN care.
We need to solve that.
We also have a real crisis around EMT and emergency services around the state.
So digging in and making sure that we've got providers.
We all know that in every part of the state we need more mental health care providers, especially in our schools and in our hospitals.
And then finally, the thing that I'm most excited about is the quality part of my plan because there's incredible research happening in Wisconsin at UW Madison at the Medical College of Wisconsin with some of our great companies like GE Healthcare and AccurA about really changing the game when it comes to the providing of healthcare and making sure that people get in and out of the healthcare system as quickly as possible and back to their families.
And you've talked about protecting access to things like vaccines and care as part of that preventative medicine.
What concerns are you seeing right now or do you have as you work that into your plan because of what's happening on the federal level?
Well, what I saw during COVID, I served in Governor Evers administration during COVID was a complete decimation of our public health system, and that has continued with RFK and Donald Trump.
They have just decimated the ability to know what vaccines you should get, to make sure that you're doing what you can for your family, to protect your family around vaccines.
My mom was an allergist and immunologist, and from the very youngest age, she taught me how important
vaccines were and how they were part of what we do for each other and taking care of each other.
And so to see what's happening around vaccines and just around the discarding of good science and knowing that we need to use science to lead our decisions is really something we absolutely have to reverse.
And we have the ability to in Wisconsin.
We have a great public health system.
We have folks who want to participate in that system.
We need to lift them up, protect them, and say thank you for taking care of us.
Missy let's go back to something you said about the rural areas of the state and we've talked about this a lot how the medical care access to medical care in those rural areas has dropped its doctors are leaving some places the hospitals are closing because of funding so getting more care there is obviously a priority but how do you exactly do it when they're when the hospitals weren't making money allegedly and that's why they closed when you're losing doctors to the area what can you do to bring these
services back to those areas that need them.
Well, I'll just say, you know, in my community in Southwest Wisconsin, I served on the board of our local hospital and the challenges around bringing providers to our rural areas is a big thing.
We need to make sure that we've got childcare, that we've got housing, these fundamental pieces that folks are looking for when they're looking to create a life in a rural community.
You know, you need to be able to have those services available.
And so that's the first key part.
And then you need to make sure
that the rural providers have the access to the facilities that they need, the training that they need.
But we're seeing really innovative things in rural Wisconsin.
We're seeing a really innovative cooperative start in Chippewa Falls after we saw the hospital closing there.
We're seeing opportunities for clinics, for mobile clinics and for telehealth.
And we just need to, you know, it needs to be an all in approach to making sure that as providers are willing to
come to our rural areas.
We've got the support system around them to be able to keep them there and have them have thriving livelihoods.
She is the Democratic gubernatorial candidate.
One of the candidates, I should say, missyforgovernor.com, if you want to check out more about her plans.
Your experience is very unique in the fact that you also ran the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation.
And you've talked about this Wisconsin idea.
What is that, first of all, and how do you turn that research at places like the University of Wisconsin into real healthcare solutions for the state?
Well, the Wisconsin idea is so deep in our DNA.
Sometimes we even forget about it and don't elevate it as much as we can.
And what I've seen in the healthcare bio health industry that we have in Wisconsin is the opportunity for collaboration between the government, the university,
and the industry.
And that's what the Wisconsin idea is.
It's finding practical solutions, bringing those solutions to the communities and then getting feedback and taking it back and doing better.
So we were able to get the Biden administration to designate Wisconsin as a regional tech hub for the bio health industry.
And just doing that has spurred incredible collaboration between the University of Wisconsin-Madison, the Medical College of Wisconsin, our industry, and our government
in
order to really move forward personalized care that can help folks be able to get exactly the care that they need rather than having the kitchen sink thrown at them and be able to get back to their families and their work as quickly as possible.
And it's really groundbreaking, exciting research.
And we need to support that, but it has to get
The Wisconsin idea is getting that research from the lab on campus to the hospital room back to the lab and all through that process.
And I'm so excited to see that.
And I think there are so many opportunities for the Wisconsin idea to spur more innovation across the state in agriculture, in manufacturing with AI, all of these different new technologies that we're facing.
We know how to take those and make them really practical for Wisconsin.
You can go to missyforgovernor.com.
Healthcare, a huge concern.
The economy, another big concern.
Now in your former position with the Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation, you created jobs, you helped assist small businesses, brought a lot of investment to the states, and one of your campaign platforms is to create a main street economy.
What does that mean exactly and how do you achieve it?
Well, what I'm really seeing is Wisconsinites are stuck in many different ways.
Healthcare is a way that they are stuck.
Student loan debt is a way that they're stuck.
Not thinking they're ever going to be able to buy a house is a way that they're stuck.
So my plan really drives to address those things.
First, I want to create 50,000 new businesses.
What we saw coming out of COVID, so that Wisconsinites have great ideas, they're passionate, and they want to be independent and lead their own lives.
And so we want to support them and have their back as they're starting new
businesses.
I want to build 200,000 homes because we are definitely facing a housing crisis and that's keeping people from being able to build wealth by owning their own home.
Finally, I want to train 100,000 more Wisconsinites every year because we see Wisconsinites really struggling with having, you know, two, three jobs, but still not being able to make ends meet.
By using our incredible technical college system, we'll be able to get folks more training.
And as we looked into it, we could see that we could increase people's annual
salaries by up to $45,000 a year just by getting them some more training and getting them into the high-skilled jobs that I know our businesses need.
Missy, I also want to kind of dive in quickly a little bit to the political landscape that we're seeing here in Wisconsin.
We just saw that big Wisconsin Supreme Court race, Chris Taylor, winning by about 20 points.
What does that tell you?
Because if you look at polls right now, especially in the gubernatorial race, everything is very neck and neck.
But what does that tell you where the voters are right now when you're laying out plans like this?
And how does that affect what
you're coming up with as what you would do as governor if you were elected.
Yeah, look, voters are incredibly upset and also engaged.
And that's what we saw last Tuesday.
We saw that folks are ready for a change.
They're ready for not the usual politician.
I've never run for office before.
As you said, I have kind of a unique combination of private sector experience.
I worked for Organic Valley for 17 years, saving family farms, and then did the public work working for economic development.
I'm not a politician.
I don't have a long legislative record.
just haven't been involved in election after election voters are looking for a change they're looking for a new fresh new fresh ideas and ways to lead the state forward the truth of the matter is although it seems overwhelming that there's seven folks in this race
I believe that the winner of the primary is going to be, you know, the next governor of this state.
And so I urge people and I'm excited to see people getting engaged, learning about all the candidates and deciding who's got the experience, who's had the impact across the state, and who can be able to bring a statewide coalition to beat Tom Tiffany in November.
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I really want them to know that I drive towards getting things done.
I want to have a solution.
If someone comes into me with a challenge or a problem, I'm pulling from all of my different experience to say, how can we make connections for you?
How can we solve this problem?
And that's really important to me.
As you look at my record, I created jobs, I helped businesses, I saved family farms.
I have actual experience on the ground of how to make things happen.
I trust people to come to me with this
a priority.
This is something we need to fix.
If we can fix this, we can start to move forward and I want to help them get those things done.
It's really just all about solutions and getting things done.
It's incredibly important to me.
It is not just promises and words.
It's making an actual change in folks lives.
Well, I'm a mom of three.
I had twins and then a third.
I had three under the age of two.
We have been busy over our lives, raising our family in Southwestern Wisconsin.
I love being outdoors.
We live in a place where we have 70 sheep and two junkies and I'm just so excited about Wisconsin and it's very
appreciate it.
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Childhood Arrivals, whatever you call it, UNO was adopted in 2012 under President Obama, provides temporary protection from deportation and work authorization to certain undocumented immigrants who were brought to the US as children.
The program does not provide recipients with legal status, a path to permanent residency,
or citizenship, but now in Wisconsin, some of these people will be able to get occupational licenses because Wisconsin will officially now allow those status holders to get those occupational licenses under a bill that Governor Evers signed into law last week.
AB 759, now 2025 Wisconsin Act 240.
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numbers and stats.
That's even too much for me.
Well, it allows DACA holders to apply for and obtain professional credentials from the Wisconsin Department of Safety and Professional Services.
The governor said in a statement that it was the right thing to do to help dreamers pursue their higher education and career goals to give back to the communities that raised them and to help the Wisconsin economy by ensuring smart, talented and capable people can join our workforce in high need areas.
How do you argue with that?
So they could go to school.
They could do everything right.
And they were still being blocked from becoming a nurse, a plumber, an EMT, a cosmetologist.
Jobs that, I don't know, we kind of need filled, not only in the state, but in the country, right?
now.
And so I think this just gives people a chance to use that education to build the career, contribute to their communities in ways that they've already been doing for years and still be able to make money doing so.
I don't know why this had to be some big bill.
I get it.
You have to pass law.
just didn't make sense to me.
Like, we have to
It's about it's about citizens of this country, people who are not granted citizenship, but people who were grandfathered in.
Yeah.
Because of DACA.
You want people to stay because one of the things we hear so much right when people are arguing about undocumented immigrants, what a drain they are on society and how they don't pay taxes even though it's been shown most of them do.
But now you've got people who could be making good livings.
with professional careers.
Those people are paying more taxes.
Those people are then spending more money in your community, in the communities where they grew up, in the communities they don't want to leave because this Wisconsin is now their home.
So not allowing them to have these certificates was just a way of it was a self fulfilling prophecy on the point of
Now, we've got about 5,000 DACA recipients in the state of Wisconsin.
So let's let them participate.
So I'm glad that Governor Evers signed this bill.
I'm glad that there was bipartisan support.
And let's be clear, this isn't going to change anything on the federal level.
Not every state is going to be participating in this program.
It's also not giving DACA recipient citizenship.
It's not going to change.
And
be licensed, do jobs.
And I don't know, at the end of the day, I think it's really hard to argue with the growth of local economy.
I mean, I think it really is.
And that's essentially what this is going to do is it's going to grow so many of these local economies and these communities.
And you think about the fact that some of these DACA recipients could now get a license to be a plumber and maybe you have a new business popping up in your town where it might be needed, right?
I don't know why these conversations have to be
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With the Civic Media app, you can get notifications about local stories that matter to you and your community.
Find the free Civic Media app in your phone's app store and choose notifications from the menu to tell us what kind of news you want to hear about.
