Betting On Sports, Not On Elections (Hour 1)

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It's Daybreak with Brian Noonan and Jamie Martinson.

Here are your hosts, Brian and Jamie.

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Thank you so much for joining us this morning.

Happy Friday.

We officially made it to the end of another week.

And I always have to point that out because in this new cycle, it feels like every day is a win, doesn't it?

My name is Jamie Martenson.

I'm Brian Noon and good morning.

Thanks for being here.

Yeah, it does.

It's an endless cycle and there's no weekend because

it

doesn't stop.

So it's just a constant barrage of

just stupidity

at some

point and head shaking incredulousness.

But

it is

Friday.

It's the final day of our break into spring multi-state text to win contest.

So we're going to give you a word after seven.

We are going to play a song strikeout at seven 50 to give you a chance to go see the Brewers take on the Yankees.

So good things happening on Friday, at least for the next three hours.

That's that's good, I guess.

We'll try to be

entertaining and uplifting.

That's what

will do.

Yeah, sure.

Those are the two goals.

You know, yesterday was opening day.

I want to just say something to all the Brewers fans.

You're welcome.

Now, I told you yesterday that I didn't expect the socks to win.

However, I did ask that they not embarrass themselves.

They'd started out like they weren't gonna embarrass themselves.

It looks good for a while first pitch home run in team history It was the first pitch lead-off home run and then boy it all crumbled and

They showed themselves.

But so you're welcome.

I'm glad the Brewers fans had a great opening day.

Got to celebrate.

Maybe a little boring at some point when it's 14 to two, you're like, what else can we do?

That's why if you're at Amfam, you go, you know, take your picture by

the big

glove or the sausage figurines or get another old fashioned.

But you get excited to roll out the

barrel.

You do all of that.

Parker, I have to

ask, were you a little nervous at the very beginning of that game?

Because it was a little rocky there to start things out.

It was.

It had shades of Freddy Peralta too.

it, which

is not exactly comforting, because as

good as Freddie was, man, he was the most frustrating pitcher to watch.

But after the

second inning, I was feeling

all

right.

You

settled into a good

old-fashioned

shellacan.

No,

I do

have to ask this question, though, because I saw this running around on social media yesterday.

There was a story over at Wisconsin Public Radio where they literally asked Brewer's fans, obviously, who were a little, you know, jaded yesterday in their responses, being out at AmFam, doing the tailgating, should...

Opening day, be a national holiday.

I thought that was an interesting question.

And I know people talk about this with sports all the time, right?

People want a holiday after the Super Bowl and all of that, but...

There's several ways of thinking.

Obviously, there's some people who are like, eh, it's baseball, whatever, it's a sport.

If you like it, you like it.

There's other people who talk about the rich history of baseball and tied to that Americana feeling that maybe it would make sense.

I'm looking at your face right now.

That's

because, stop.

Not you, but stop.

Stop with the silliness.

This is, it's a baseball game.

First of all, every team doesn't play on opening day.

Right.

You know, there was a game the night before.

It's a baseball game.

Here's the problem.

We, as Americans, are lazy.

We really want extra days off.

We want days off.

And I don't play with this.

Listen, after the day after the Super Bowl, there's been times I didn't want to get up and go to work, because you're having a good time.

But guess what?

That's part of being an adult.

You get up and you go to work.

Or you take a day off.

Most places, and I know some people don't get paid days off, but some do.

Or you call in sick, or you figure something out.

Or you just be responsible.

No, come on.

Listen, I'm going to sound very... Oh my gosh, I'm going to have to cross to the enemy lines for

a

minute.

How woke and

snowflakey is

that?

We got to take off opening day because I want to go... First of all, most of us don't get opening day tickets.

There's

only so many tickets, so why do we need the day off?

just a lounge about we don't we don't get we don't get we don't have election day as a national holiday if we're gonna get anything we

should start there and then we can you know move into other things i guess but

and this is not sour grapes because my team got uh the holy hell kicked out of him yesterday

uh it's

just

But come on, there's still places that a couple states that don't give Martin Luther King day off.

So for opening day, please, what about people who don't like baseball?

I'll be honest, you might have a better chance getting this administration to give you opening day off than you're going to have giving you Martin Luther King day off.

I mean, I'll be honest, you might have a better chance.

Cindy from Appleton chiming in this morning on the text line, baseball part of the class warfare.

Okay.

I don't quite get where Cindy's going with that one.

But okay, it's early.

Well, people's thought processes are a little foggy when they first get up.

I don't understand.

I think baseball is, you know...

for everybody.

Everybody can watch baseball.

You

don't really need too much to play it as a kid.

I think baseball as a whole is probably one of the sports that I know not everybody's into it, but I think if you look at it as a whole, it's probably the sport that resonates with people the most simply because of that.

And you look at all of the different history that's tied to baseball and moments when we've played it in really big moments of American history.

I mean, it was played

during the Civil War.

We've had presidents who have ceremoniously thrown out first pitches.

Heck, President John F. Kennedy even appointed a staff member undersecretary of baseball, right?

So you do have a little bit more of that Americana, and you're right.

It doesn't require as much equipment as other sports.

So it makes it seem a little bit more affordable for a lot of people.

But if you do want to chime into our conversation...

Unless you're kid... Yeah, unless you're kid and travel baseball.

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Now, whether you think baseball should be a national holiday or not, or at least opening day, hopefully everybody had a great time yesterday.

And if you want to, you know, share some

of your

opening day thoughts with us, we'd love to hear those this morning too.

The pictures I saw coming out of AMFAM, the parking lots were full of tailgaters, everybody seemed to be having a good time, the sun was shining, so that was all nice.

Yeah, and now we, now today the brewers are off as they always are on the day after.

And then they'll go back to, they'll go back to, what happened?

Parker has a thing to say.

The point of getting the day off after opening day is if the first day gets rained out and you don't

start

the season.

behind schedule already.

Yeah.

Remind me why Milwaukee can play every single day.

Oh yeah, the roof thing.

The roof.

Why do they need

to get off?

It's so stupid.

Because every ballpark doesn't have a roof.

Right.

Yes, but you could change it for the, it's probably like a third of stadiums that have roofs now.

Yeah.

Those

teams shouldn't

have to take the day off because there's like no baseball today now.

Does

that make you upset, Parker?

I'm very upset about it, yes.

I think the whole opening

weekend is poorly managed.

I'm not national holiday extreme, but it

is not

well managed, I don't think.

Oh, because I could see Brian and you were gonna have words if you were on the national holiday bandwagon this morning.

Oh, yeah, no, no.

I just... No,

but

they need to manage it.

I know Parker is young and, you know... I'm naive, Brian.

...and he wants that kind of thing, but I...

He also has a work ethic.

He showed up during the Blizzard.

I know

he's not looking for just a free day off.

Frank's team, Frank's team didn't do much better yesterday.

Frank is a Cubs fan.

So Chicago just, Chicago is not a happy sports town yesterday.

Yeah.

But that's all right.

All right.

Here's another question.

Okay.

While we, and we're still every

Oh, Cindy saying it's a big wages.

This is her to the class to warfare.

We'll jump back to that big wages unaffordable to go to games ticket prices have gone up.

It is

very expensive.

But that's why you look and a lot of teams are smart enough to go there.

They're trying to do and I know the Brewers do I think it's on Sundays with the family days and the senior days and there's they work out.

They work out to try to make because they do realize it is

It's crazy expensive.

It is crazy expensive.

I think though in the scheme of sports, baseball is probably still...

It's expensive, but it's probably one of the most affordable yet, though, if you look at what ticket prices to NFL games are or even NHL games.

It's interesting that Cindy says that because there was a new report that came out this week that found that the average cost of an MLB game for a family of four this year is going to be about $226.

That's assuming that you're

going to avoid.

That seems pretty cheap.

Right.

That's assuming, though, you're going to avoid the team shop, too.

This particular report ranked all 30 ballparks by the cost of four tickets, the cheapest available average across all the home games, one parking lot pass, two 16 ounces of beers, two 20 ounce sodas and four hot dogs.

So the basics, we're not talking about, you know,

the

peanuts, the cotton candy and the merch.

Not surprisingly, the LA Dodgers, the most expensive team to go see, $413.

The rest of the top five include the Red Sox, the athletics who are now homeless, the Cubs.

also on this list costs about $314.

The San Francisco Giants also in the top five.

The Miami Marlins, by the way, are the cheapest team for a family of four.

She wants to go to a Marlins

game.

Also in the bottom of the league are the Cincinnati Reds, the St.

Louis Cardinals, the LA Angels, and the Kansas City Royals.

I did look up to see where Milwaukee comes on this list.

We're at 23 if you're in the great state of Wisconsin.

So for a family of four, about $178 to go to a game, which

Really, what do you think about a night out at the movies for a family?

It's not that far off.

That's why you don't leave the house.

That's the thing.

Hey Parker, Roger pointed this out and I saw a couple posts on this yesterday that Euker would have had a ball with this.

They have a new pitching change sponsor, the North Shore Adult Diapers.

You think about that every time a pitching change if you need a quick change get a door sure don't diaper Sometimes you need a change for the heaviest control problem

Yes, how could you not be romantic about baseball?

I mean I also

it also is a harbinger of bad news if that's the demographic for

baseball viewers now,

right?

We know you're sitting in your

lazy boy

pooping yourself.

So don't worry about it.

Grab yourself a North Shore adult diaper and stew in your own juice while you enjoy a great game of baseball.

Hey, franchises

will take the

money wherever they can get them.

And I can't blame them for that.

No, I'm not blaming them for that.

I just, Ananasio was saying yesterday how much the burrs lose with the new TV deal.

Oh, yeah,

it

was like 20 million dollars.

Yeah, because of the TV deal change.

Yeah,

that's insane.

It's bad business then.

It's not a good who negotiated that Trump taking care of that for them.

All kinds of things.

Yeah, the other the other thing quickly about the Cindy's point, everybody always complains about the prices and stuff.

There's no guarantee.

We're not we're not guaranteed the ability to go to a game.

The one thing about sports is you can yeah Access them without going

to

the stadium.

You don't have to pay that kind of money You can listen for free

right

here on the Civic Media Network to all the Brewers games

You can listen, you can listen to the radio.

You can watch a lot of stuff on TV without buying the subscriptions or without buying the big packages.

And sometimes

the experience is better, honestly, at home.

Yes.

Because you

don't have to sit through all the breaks.

I love going to an NFL game, but man, oh man, it is much nicer when you're sitting at home watching on your own

TV.

Jay, that's when I can put on my North Shore adult diaper and not have to worry about the crowds.

And

drink yourself still.

Parker, it's time for a pitch and change.

It's almost 6.28.

It's time for a segment change.

I don't want to change again.

I'm going to go change.

I need to change Parker.

Don't forget the powder this time.

Oh no.

It is 6.19 right now.

You are listening to Daybreak.

I am Jamie Martson.

All right.

Fun's over.

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Good morning.

Thank you so much for joining us this morning.

It is 622 right now.

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Good morning.

I'm Brian Noonan.

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We've got a pair of club level seats that will be giving away at 750.

So all that

is to say, now the fun stops.

Now we have to

get into the meat of

the day,

so to speak.

So eight of Wisconsin's 11 tribes are urging the governor to sign a bill that would legalize online sports betting, saying it would strengthen tribal sovereignty and boost their economies.

But not all the tribes agree.

So no matter who you are, if you're a Republican, Democrat, you don't agree.

If you're the tribes, they don't agree.

One is neutral.

I don't know how you... See, I never understand neutrality.

in situations like this.

You got to pick a side.

But anyway, one is neutral, others haven't taken a clear position, which is the key reason the governor is hesitating to move forward, which must infuriate the other eight tribes going seriously.

Most

likely.

Yes, I would agree.

There's a little

consternation there.

Yeah, the bill would allow people to place bets on their phones anywhere in Wisconsin.

As long as the system processing the bet is located on tribal land right now, though, sports betting is only legal in person at tribal casino.

so this would expand access while still keeping control with the tribes.

This bill has been very touchy throughout the state of Wisconsin, right?

And let's be clear, public opinion, mostly against this bill, about 64% of Wisconsin voters oppose any sort of online sports betting and 34% support it.

And this did pass the assembly and the Senate with bipartisan support, but obviously it still has to have a signature from the governor

if

we want it to become law.

And national

betting companies like Draft King and FanDuel oppose this plan because it limits their ability to operate in the state and obviously puts a lot more into the tribal hands.

So I can imagine how the big corporations would be a little dismayed if this is a law that actually gets signed into books.

But I mean,

You know, it really is about who is going to control gambling, I think, in this state, because right now the tribes have that authority.

The

bill keeps the system in place, but it requires everything to still run through the tribal land, even if you're betting from your home, which is nowhere near tribal land, right?

So I think that's gonna be the important key to all of this as the governor makes his decision on whether or not this is law of Wisconsin land.

And I wonder if the 64% who oppose the bill are opposed to it because they don't want online gambling in general, right?

Or they don't want the tribal control of online gambling.

They want to use Draft King

or

FanDuel or one of the other big sport things.

Now you've mentioned a number of times, so I'm not talking out of school, that your sons do online gambling.

Do they use one of the big companies?

They use the prop bet companies.

I don't know which one they use, but it is.

It is online.

And they don't do the Draft King, the Fan Duel, anything like that.

My 22-year-old is very much into the analytics of it all, especially when it comes to baseball.

That's where he usually flourishes every season because baseball is all about the analytics, right?

So he's able to look at that and then place those prop bets on what he thinks is going to happen.

And that's usually when he makes the most money every year.

as you can imagine, he was very excited for baseball season to start yesterday.

Yes.

So now, would those companies also be limited?

I would imagine, right?

And I would

assume that if we're talking about how betting is going to work, or if it's just going to be betting in general, I haven't, I'll be honest, I haven't seen the full language of this bill

since it passed the Senate

yet.

Yeah.

it's kind of confusing but it's that's I'm wondering what if you listen jump in tell me yeah why would you if you're part of that 64 percent or if you're part of the 34 percent that is supporting this 8 5 5 7 5 civic 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 and the reason I mean I know the basics of it but I don't I don't gamble I don't bet so I you know

I figure my big bed is getting out of bed every day.

And

sometimes I'm lucky to make that one happen, honestly.

Yeah, sometimes it's a push.

It's like, no, we're gonna just go with

that.

Third alarm, okay, now we're pushing it a little bit.

I think what is also interesting about this is the fact that not all of the tribal leaders are agreeing on this, and that's actually a really big deal because Governor Evers has made it very clear that he wants full tribal support before he signed something like this into law, and right now, obviously it's not there.

You mentioned one's neutral, a couple are still trying to decide.

So until he has full tribal support, I don't know if the governor is going to move on this.

I'm not sure he vetoes it either, but that might be one that just potentially sits on his desk until he is able to have more conversations or the tribal leaders are able to.

And that's got to be something with the cut and who's going to stand for just the logistics of it.

And then it always comes back with everything.

It always comes back to the money, so how it's going to get divvied up amongst the tribes and things like that.

We'll see.

It's gonna be interesting, you know?

There's almost that vibe that Wisconsin...

wants to stay pure.

We're not going to legalize cannabis.

We're not going to legalize online budding.

We're going to drink till we pass out every day.

But then the other sins, the other sins we... We don't want any part of those.

We can't do that.

We don't want any part of

those.

No.

That's for the lower class states.

We don't do that here.

We'll just continue to be all of the drunkest counties on all of those surveys every

single year.

It's fine.

We'll ignore that part of what happens.

Well, no, that's because you're winning those.

This is true.

If you're winning in something, you keep it.

Are we going to sell the most cannabis?

That doesn't make sense.

If we're going to

excel at something, we're going to really excel at it in this

state.

Online betting is still on the fence.

We don't know if we're going to excel at that yet.

It is 6.29 right now.

Happy Friday.

You are listening to Daybreak.

My name is Jamie Martinson.

And when we come back and throb it back in the news and the Pentagon and the federal judges, they're all involved in this.

We'll tell you what it is.

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Thank you so much for joining us this morning.

My name is Jamie Martinson.

Good morning.

I'm Brian Noonan.

Jamie, I know you are fixated on this.

You are.

We have.

J.B.

is laser focused on our social media.

It's all the important things

in life.

Yes, listen, you've got to have you got to have a distraction.

That's the thing.

That's just it right now.

It's a

distraction.

It's fun

to see the number

climb.

So how how is how is it going?

Give us our daily update from our new social media pages.

We are 97 followers.

And this is

actually

a really big deal over a daybreak with Brian and Jamie because once we hit those triple digits that we could actually stream.

the show over on our own Facebook page because there's algorithms, there's rules of all of all

this stuff

works.

So yes, it is a distraction

for me.

Here's the good news, Brian.

And this

is the

part that makes me the happiest.

These people

have

all followed the page and none of them have went away.

We're not losing anybody either.

Listen, I am old school Irish superstitious, I believe in jinxes.

Don't jinx it.

But listen, for Jamie's sake,

Folks,

we need three, four.

Let's give us a cushion.

Four or more people

to

please go to Facebook, look up Daybreak with Brian and Jamie.

Give us a follow.

Follow it.

And then Jamie can go to the weekend only worrying about the mutual destruction of this country and the Constitution.

So that's right.

Then she won't take something off her plate.

That's right.

Help assist out.

Then I'll have to find something else to focus on for a little bit.

Take my mind off all of the stuff that's happening.

At least it's baseball season now.

So there is that.

There's a draft coming up if you're a sports person.

So weather's getting nicer presumably anyway.

So I'll focus on something like that.

But I'm just glad

to.

See, we're almost there.

Yes, we're almost there.

If we could do it by the end of the show.

Oh, I'd be so excited.

Did I tell you we're giving away brewer's tickets?

We are.

So that, you know, we're doing.

It's not just us take, take, take.

No.

We give.

We're giving

as well.

This is a quid pro quo.

We'll do these contests.

Four people got to go like that page.

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So get your app ready.

We're just under a half hour before you get your final word from us for the day.

And then, of course, we'll give away those brewers tickets, as you said, at 7.50 this morning.

So be ready to

play.

Is it obvious we're trying to avoid any sort of news right

now?

Yes.

Yes.

wants to talk about this actual news cycle.

Now we do this what this is story we've been following for weeks.

Because if you if you remember the anthropic story and I'll boil it down really quick for you.

Anthropic does AI they they are an AI company.

They had a couple programs and the Pentagon wanted to use it in ways that anthropic was not comfortable with for mass surveillance and things like that.

They wanted to take it over and if and they threatened anthropic that said if you don't let us use it the way we want, we're going to

put you basically on the no fly list, labeling you a supply chain risk.

And anthropic went, Well, do your best.

And so

pistol Pete, and the Department of Defense decided they would put them on the supply chain risk, which not only cancels their contract, which was I think around $20 million.

It was a lot of money.

And then it kind of

kills their business because it puts them on this list where they can't get any other government contracts.

Well, Anthropoc was not happy about that as you can imagine, so they took the...

took the government to court, and yesterday a federal judge ruled in favor of Anthropoc, temporarily blocking the federal government from labeling the company a national security or supply chain risk.

The ruling also blocks a directive from Donald Trump that ordered federal agencies to stop using Anthropoc's AI chatbot, Claude.

The judge said the government's actions appeared arbitrary and punitive.

Yeah, but that's on their business card.

Pistol Pete Hex has arbitrary and punitive.

Nice

to

meet you.

Suggested that they were not based on clear evidence, but instead look like retaliation.

Yes.

Based on this, I could be a judge, because it was so obvious to everybody else that that was the way she criticized the use of rare military authority typically used against foreign threats, calling it inappropriate to apply that kind of power to an American company.

And she warned that labeling anthropic as a threat could seriously damage or cripple the company by harming its reputation and ability to do business.

Congratulations, federal judge Rita Lynn, for seeing the most obvious

things in this case.

What I think is interesting about this is if you're not aware of how...

what it means to be labeled as a supply chain risk.

It's literally suppliers and partners who are put on this list when they introduce vulnerabilities that could interrupt operational, financial, or even reputational stability.

And they're often categorized into tier one, tier two, and then these third party vendors.

And so to be added to that list is, it's,

It's usually used as the judge rightfully points out, and I'll say this again for foreign adversaries.

That's usually what it is.

This is a company that is here in the United States.

This is a company that has AI.

This is a company who, uh, his CEO.

The CEO of this company worked for OpenAI for a while,

started

his own company, and just chose to not give in to the whims of this administration.

And now they are apparently or were until Rita Lynn stepped in.

Some sort of foreign adversary doing nefarious things to the country.

Well, look at how the administration treats citizens.

They view everyone as an adversary.

If you don't toe the line, if you don't do exactly what they say and capitulate to...

their demands, you are an adversary.

And so it doesn't surprise me that OpenAI would fall

on

their list, but it is it is wrong.

They're not.

All they did, we talked yesterday about ethical companies.

All Anthropic did was try to operate in a more ethical way, saying we don't know the limitations or the limits of what we've created yet.

We don't want it used for this because we don't know how it will go.

You can use our stuff, we'll sell it to you, but you're not getting all the different things.

I think it also says a lot about a company who sat in these high-level meetings with people in the Pentagon and were absolutely not comfortable with the way this Pentagon, this Department of Defense, wanted to use

the technology.

And so to me, I think that actually says a lot about where we are and what those meetings entailed and what this particular government wants to use these particular tools for.

My favorite part of this ruling.

This is my favorite part of the ruling.

Um, for so many reasons, because Rita Lynn suggested that the Pentagon, I don't know, could just simply stop using the company's products instead

of taking these actions, which I thought was hilarious because, okay, here's

a

judge, different vendors.

Yeah.

Like why do we need a

judge to

point this out to us?

Because that's not enough, Jamie.

It's not enough to just say, all right, well, we're not going to use you anymore.

We're not going to renew your contract.

That doesn't, that doesn't make the.

public spectacle that doesn't show how dare you question the authority of this administration that doesn't that that doesn't show their power

you know

if if if Anthropa can get away with this and actually say no to us and all we do is not use them other people will say no to us so we will crack down on any dissent whether it's from a company whether it's from citizens whether it's from whoever or wherever

We have to show that we're the boss.

But now, Microsoft is backing this up, backing up Anthropic.

Other tech companies are doing it, former military leaders.

Everybody is agreeing with Anthropic, which doesn't surprise me because the half-baked schemes that come out of this administration are hard to back.

Yes.

No, absolutely.

And what I think is also important to remember, if you're paying attention to the use of technology and the government's role in it, this ruling is not permanent.

And it is delayed briefly while the case continues through the courts.

The decision does not require the Pentagon right now to use Anthropics technology and allows the

government

to switch to other AI providers.

As we just mentioned,

the judge so rightly

pointed out, just switch products.

Why does

it have to be

anthropic?

Right.

If tide doesn't work for you, you get all.

Yeah, you go get a

different product.

It's just kind of how it works.

But I think the bigger question as we watch this is, is the federal government trying to get access to that technology and for what reason?

And that's what my mind keeps going to.

We don't know the capabilities of what AI can do.

Obviously, the CEO of this company, of Anthropic, also doesn't know the full capabilities of

what

AI can do.

And it really bothers me that in the middle of a war, and this is just me connecting dots and thinking out loud, but it really bothers me in the middle of a war that we're putting this much emphasis on AI and that we're also targeting protesters who don't like ICE raids.

It bothers me that this is an administration who is so clearly hell bent on getting this technology that they won't just, you know, use a different source.

They will try to make a company become a foreign adversary before they'll just move on.

Lynn texting in from Golden Valley, she's listening on...

I think CFW, is that fair?

Yep, O'Clair.

O'Clair, very nice.

She says, OK, oh, you guys are just not warfighters.

Buff it up.

Yeah,

I am not

a warfighter.

No, I'm not.

I don't have the stomach for it.

I don't.

Now, if you're calling people military members, I would say, oh, yes, that's horrible.

Always support the military.

Calling them warfighters.

Stop it, Pete.

Pete

anyway.

Yeah, that's but but he's got a nifty pocket.

Your point is made.

There's got to be and his hair.

He's like a werewolf in London because his hair is perfect.

It is.

That's the only good thing I could say about Pete Hexeth.

Nice hair.

And when you're a haircut instead of a full man, that's not good in any circumstance, let alone running the Department of Defense.

So can

I like this and there is this question, the one you mentioned about the government just taking over, but it's also, can companies say, we will sell you our product, but you can only use this much of it.

You're not getting everything because we don't know what this can do yet.

Maybe once we find out, or maybe once you... See, this is the tricky part, because you can't...

as a company go tell me what you're going to use this for and maybe there's different parts with contracts with the government and this and that but you know we go into a store they sell stuff they don't know what we're using it for I buy a lot of rope and zip ties and a shovel and some like you don't know what I'm using it for right Parker I'm just buying things for my garden now allegedly sure yeah

It seems like an episode of Criminal Minds or SVU,

but we won't go there.

I want people to start thinking in the morning like, who is this guy?

What's going on?

We think we have a gauge on him and then we don't.

But can these companies say you can't use

it for

this?

Or once you enter into a contract, once you sell it to someone, can they do whatever they want with it?

Yeah.

And I think in this particular case, if the government thought that they were going to just shut down Anthropic and make them go away and make them capitulate to whatever they want, that's not the case because the public response has also been very telling.

After the

Pentagon

tried to blacklist them, Anthropic didn't actually fall apart.

In fact, Claude, which is their AI product, it surged in popularity, becoming the number one AI app in more than 20 countries, and it has seen over a million

a new user signing up every day since the beginning of March when this all started.

My buddy swears by it.

He says it's better than... And he does a lot of AIs.

He said it's better than any.

And I have no investment in Anthropics.

So when I say that, it's not me getting... Right, right.

I'm not part of this administration.

I don't know how to get kickbacks and

grift.

We're not making

millions for the things we say.

which is unfortunate, and that's for the next time we talk about our contracts.

All right, so when we come back, Jamie, there's a theme in today's show, and it's wagering.

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All right, I feel like we're doing a show in Vegas now because we've already talked about tribal online betting and now we're going to talk about betting on an election.

This is, and people are laying down the over-under on how many betting stories we're going to do today.

That's right.

We set the line at four.

We're already at two, so you place your bets.

There's so much

betting news in the

headlines right now, all over the place.

In Wisconsin, across the country, we've got people betting on wars.

We've got people betting on elections.

There's just a lot of money flowing and I wish somebody'd share with me.

Yeah, how about it?

But if you want to bet on the election on April 7th.

No, don't do that because it is not legal.

According to Adam Jacobs, she's the chair of the Bipartisan Wisconsin Elections Commission and an overall killjoy who doesn't want people betting

on elections.

No, I'm

kidding.

And she took to social media this week to remind residents that doing so could result in your ballot being thrown out.

This is her post on X, formerly known as Twitter, or Twitter, formerly known, currently known as X. Wisconsin friends, I know it's all the rage.

on everything.

But you cannot bet on an election in Wisconsin.

Your ballot can be challenged and thrown out.

So go vote and save your dollars for playing Euker with your uncle.

I

love

that.

What if your uncle cheats and you don't want to play with your uncle?

This is true.

We'll find

a friend who

doesn't cheat because we don't need any cheaters.

Who are these people betting on a Supreme Court election?

The same people who placed bets right before we bombed Venezuela.

Right before we started in Iran.

You think

my obsession with Facebook followers is too much.

Like, what are we doing here?

This is, I don't

understand this.

This is people just looking for action, you know.

And I love that.

When I say this, it's only because I love the way the term sounds.

Degenerate gamblers.

Because if you need action that bad, you're like, oh man, is it gonna be Lazarus?

Is it gonna be Taylor?

Who's it gonna be?

I better do.

I better take a sawbuck.

Parker, I'm going to lay a sawbuck down on one of these candidates.

I just don't understand the people who are fascinated enough by state politics to start placing

bets.

Well,

you are.

You're huge.

I wouldn't place bets.

You're not going to bet?

I'm not going to bet.

I'm going to pay attention because I think it matters to the overall

state

of, you know, I don't know, community, humanity, I guess.

Sure, but it could matter to your pocketbook just as much.

But

I'm not going to place bets on it anyway.

I will forever understand.

never ever understand this.

Jacobs actually cites a state law, though, that pertains to elections, and it says that, quote, no person shall be allowed to vote in any election in which the person is made or become interested directly or indirectly in any bet or wager, depending upon the result of the election.

Of course, we know that early voting kicked off earlier this week for the April 7th spring election.

At the top of the ballot is that contested race for the Supreme Court, and more than

I think this is the big one.

More than 70 school districts across the state will also have referendum questions on their respective ballots.

So I don't know if, you know, I'm going to bet on the Supreme Court.

I'm giving three to one on the Dane County

referendums.

But I was going to say, I guess I'd be paying attention to those referendums because then you're just gambling with your property

taxes.

That's the prop bets.

That's it.

That's, I got a whole Parker.

If you're looking for those, I got some, well, we'll meet out in the back.

I have my little notebook and I'll give you an old cell.

I'll see you

next to the dumpster.

Let's, what's the line on the Supreme Court?

Oh, wow.

This isn't the Super Bowl.

Either Lazar or Taylor is favored.

What should we, who do we go for?

Well, I don't know who to vote for.

Well, the, you know, Vegas has Lazar way ahead.

Oh, I better vote for her then.

Is that really going to change people's minds?

I'm just asking the questions.

People's minds are weak.

People's minds could be, listen.

there's a lot of people who this president got elected a

second time so yeah

right they're all wearing the same hats and you know merch so yes there's people's minds can't be influenced by all kinds of uh unusual things let's say

I

just in a diplomatic

way.

Yes, I understand.

And here's the thing.

I will forever be one of those people.

Again, Pollyanna rose, color glasses, whatever you want to call me.

But I will forever believe that elections should be free, fair and based on the will of the voters, not by some line that Vegas is drawn up or

what a beautiful sentiment.

Aren't you just all American?

Are you

telling me to go back and focus on my Facebook followers?

Is that what you're telling me

this morning?

No, I'm telling you.

some money down.

Get with the program.

Because, you know, unless unless the SAVE Act is defeated, free, fair and, you know, focused on the issues, forget about it.

This is all it's a battle to the end.

So you might as well make a little cash off it.

No, which just feels gross and dirty.

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