Republicans Over 2020, Wisconsin Incentivizing Filmmaking (Hour 3)

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I'm wondering, Jamie, if this is a good sign or just more bluster.

You know we complain all the time about Donald Trump going back and relitigating the 2020 election

and

going back to 2016 and going just going back going back going back.

Well, we're not the only ones complaining

about

this.

It seems like some Republican GOP state and county chairs and their strategists are

Starting to think that this is not good for the Republican Party.

It is hurting down ticket messaging and down ticket candidates and they are hoping not so quietly that he cuts this out.

Stop it.

Well, somebody's going to have to have a much stronger conversation with him, because as we've seen, this administration has no intentions of doing so.

But they essentially just want him to move on, is essentially what the message is coming from the different party chairs.

The president, though, as we know, he's not going to let it go.

He's subpoenaed the 2020 election records.

He's put pressure on lawmakers to pass legislation to overhaul registration laws.

The growing view inside the party, though, that says that focusing on the stolen election claims and voter fraud is going to kneecap them in the general election.

And they're warning the administration that while that messaging might play out well with the base voter, in the primary, it's going to alienate the moderates who are tired of just rehashing an election from nearly six years ago.

What do we always say on this program?

Was it this six years ago?

When did we work back in time?

You want a subsequent election.

Yeah.

Move on.

Move

on.

And it's

also so obvious when you wind that, oh, so they're only fixed when you win.

Right.

So it does my heart good, not that I'm backing or thinking that these Republicans will be better, but at least it's showing that on the state level, Republicans are going...

Right.

This is not the thing.

This

is not what we want to be known for anymore.

It didn't happen.

Get over yourself and let us let us do what we need to do for our party here.

Yeah.

You know, I just wish it hadn't taken six years for them to get there, but I guess

better

late than never.

Who knows?

But we have to remember something with this.

The president has tried to sow all of this discord here in Wisconsin too, which is why this is an important conversation.

He's claimed that more people voted than were actually registered in the state.

That claim has been examined again and again, and it simply just isn't true.

Republican Speaker Robin Voss launched that investigation into the 2020

to the election.

He hired the former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gabelman to lead it.

And if you remember, Brian, that didn't turn out so well, because Gabelman's investigation produced absolutely no evidence that the election was stolen.

And earlier this year, he actually agreed to surrender his law license for three years after multiple misconduct violations that were tied to that exact same election investigation.

So

facts are pretty clear.

The elections were not.

stolen and that's why it's good to see and

Again, credit where credit's due.

Sometimes it's hard.

But it's good to see that some members of the GOP are starting to finally acknowledge that part of reality and telling the president to move on.

In fact, one Pennsylvania-based GOP strategist and Trump convention delegate who hosted a meeting of fake electors back in 2020 at his public affairs firm says that it would be better if the midterms focused on the recovery of the economy and all the good things the Republicans

administration and Congress are doing to move the economy forward.

So

there it is.

Yeah.

Please focus on this which I don't know how you focus on the economy and and try to sell it as a good thing when everybody is looking at their grocery cart going we need to put that back.

We need to we need and I know it's but gas prices are gas prices.

Yeah.

People are looking at that so you can't spin that and

Hey, you waited too long to make your break for the midterms.

Right.

The messaging isn't going to resonate in the next, you know, six months.

It's just not.

No.

So you...

Especially with the war.

We see you.

With the war that's ongoing with no end in sight that's just basically taking your any economy maybe of recovery message and just... It's not even a slow dwindle.

It

is

like hit a cliff.

It is right off the edge at this point because...

That's what happened.

You made a strategic error, and now you're going to live with those ramifications, I guess.

Well, as we talked about earlier in the show, the Fed's not going to lower interest rates.

They may actually go up.

Everything is not hunky-dory with the economy.

And we see that you just want, you know what's coming.

You know that being tied to this president in the midterms,

most likely is going to lead to a shift in the Congress.

Right.

And that terrifies you because suddenly, man, there's a storm of accountability coming.

Yeah.

And a lot of people are going to get swept up in that storm.

Yeah, which is why I think we're seeing this president turn his sights on more.

It was stolen.

2020 was a stolen.

This is why we need tighter laws because obviously Maricopa County, Arizona's largest county has come under attack from the Trump administration.

They have subpoenaed records just weeks after the FBI raided the warehouse outside of Atlanta.

Trump has also revisited all of the grievances that the

2020 election was rigged.

He's bringing these up again in what are these rally speeches that he's doing across the country right now.

He's even suggested that Republicans should nationalize elections.

And of course, he is demanding that the SAVE Act, a SAVE America Act be passed, which would put in place even stricter voting requirements as their number one priority.

And I think when you look at all of the relitigation of 2020 coupled with the SAVE America Act,

It becomes a very scary subject for where our elections are going under this president.

And it's not surprising, based on what he said about rigged elections, but I think you need to really be paying attention.

And I know we've talked a lot about the SAVE Act that has already passed the House.

It should make its way to the Senate floor this week.

But I think women especially need to really pay attention to this because it's being, I think,

I don't want to say that it is being ignored, but I think a lot of women think that it's not going to affect them.

And it is.

If you are married, if you're divorced, if your name is changed, you're going to require documentation so that you can actually vote.

And it's not going to be just undocumented voters.

It is going to be all women of all persuasion to

have

changed their name for some reason.

So I think there's this illusion that, oh, that's not going to affect me.

It's not going to be anything that I'm going to have.

No, it is.

It's absolutely going to affect any woman who's changed her name for any reason.

And it's also going to make it harder for anybody to actually vote.

And by the way, again, we'll point it out because fax kind of a thing around here.

If you're undocumented, you already can't register to vote.

That's not a thing.

I was going to bring that up.

I'm glad you did because I've heard.

That man, oh man, there's a lot of undocumented immigrants voting.

They're voting like crazy.

Their turnout actually higher than US citizen turnout.

That's what I've been told.

So

that's not right.

No, that is not right.

And in fact, voter fraud in this country is less than 1% of the voting population.

less than less than 1%.

I think it's like 0.01% a voter fraud that occurs in this country because of the laws that we already have in place to make sure that voting is safe and effective and you know citizens are actually voting.

And I know we're sometimes it feels like we're preaching to the choir because and but more people need to hear that

and so

sometimes I'm like we keep repeating ourselves.

I know.

But it's like, the more you repeat yourself, you hope at least somebody else hears it and says, well, that can't be true.

And then they can look it up and go, oh.

Well, what do you know?

It was true.

That's who to thunk

it, you know We live in a world where we have knowledge at our fingertips, right?

I mean, that's the thing that is most troubling I think to me is that this knowledge is at your fingertips You carry it around in your pocket.

You use it to make phone calls You you was sit in front of a device most of us do at some point during the day where we're mindlessly scrolling through all of this crap that doesn't matter how much it just maybe

Do a search.

Just maybe see what's out there and what information you could actually find on all of this.

Could be.

Oli's been holding on.

He's in the North Woods and he's come out of the woods to call us at 855-75 Civic.

Oli, good morning.

Welcome to the show.

Hi.

Oli's a she, but I

just

wanted to comment that women are not going to be the only ones with an issue when it comes to voting because of the safe act.

There will be a lot of people, men and women, who will have a harder time voting because they're going to have to jump through hoops to get birth certificates and information if they were adopted.

If they've never gotten information,

This will put them on the chopping block too.

Yeah, thank you

so much for the call.

That's

great.

Thank

you.

Yeah, and these are all things that we need to remember.

At some point, this is going to affect a lot of people.

There's a lot of people being targeted, but as Ollie gives us as a good reminder, could be men too who don't have a birth certificate.

And Tiffany from River Falls says, poll tax, poll tax, poll tax, unconstitutional.

Yes.

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It's

8.22 right now.

Thank you so much for joining us this morning on the Civic Media Network.

Hopefully you are having a great day, a little calm after the storm.

It's cold outside in Wisconsin, but lots of sunshine today and a whole lot of snow now.

My name is Jamie Martinson.

And I'm Brian Noonan.

Good morning.

Happy St.

Patrick's Day.

Happy St.

Patrick's Day for everyone, I'm sure, except Michael Alfonso was not having a good day because you know he was endorsed by President Trump to take Tom Tiffany's spot in the Seventh Congressional District.

But the members of that caucus

declined to endorse a candidate to replace Tom Tiffany, even though, like I said, the president has weighed in.

The chairman of the Republican Party in that congressional district, which again, the seventh, Matt Russ, said that typically there would be several rounds of elimination votes at the caucus until the final vote revealed the candidate the group would endorse.

Oh man, all that work, all that butt smooching to get that endorsement.

and it did not pay off.

No, what I love is that according to Russ, this rule was actually changed by members and a motion was made to not endorse a candidate at all.

The

vote

was witnessed

by those

in attendance.

It was certified by a parliamentarian, so it is official from a whole other district that parliamentarian was from.

The meeting was held last weekend in Nealesville.

Now, the

vote

took place without controversy, challenge, or objection, and it is accepted

to be the expressed will of the delegation in attendance at the caucus.

That is the official

language.

Wow.

All right.

Now, an endorsement vote may have communicated to voters who, you know, who has the most support amongst the delegates of the caucus, which is why the group may have held off on endorsing any single candidate.

Now, in an email, Rust actually said as far as why they voted not to endorse, he's heard several reasons, but personally believes that

But because there is no clear identified front runner at the moment, a majority of the delegation just didn't feel comfortable choosing one person over another.

He also

said

in this email that he felt that it could be more divisive than unifying for a general membership through the coming months if a single candidate was chosen.

Honestly, here's what I'm going to say.

Donald Trump has endorsed one of the candidates.

We know this.

It's Sean Duffy, son-in-law, Michael Alfonso.

Was this about the delegation truly believing that nobody stood out quite enough yet to earn the endorsement or was this a way to avoid endorsing someone other than Trump's pick and then getting blasted on social media by the president because let's be honest he does this he

throws himself even into minor party politics and blasts people on social media.

And you just got to wonder if this was a way for this delegation to just be like, you know what, it's not even worth

it.

Well, let's go back.

Let's go back a half hour.

We started this hour talking about how some Republican state and county commissioners,

boards,

leaders are trying to distance themselves or hoping the president will distance himself from

Relitigating 2020 this may be another way your point is your point is exact and it feeds into this Let's avoid this all together and also Does the seventh district want another and this is a direct quote from the president another MAGA warrior Representing them.

Mm-hmm.

I'm sure they want another Republican, but do they

write do

they want that MAGA label on top of it seeing how

Numbers are pointing to the fact that

That's falling out of favor.

I mean, and let's be real, the seventh congressional district is in terms of land and the area that it covers, this is one of the, this is the state's largest, right?

It covers a lot of central and northern Wisconsin.

There are five Republicans and three Democrats in the race right now.

So you've got Alfonso, the son-in-law, the mega warrior is proclaimed by the president.

You've got another Republican, Jesse Eben, who is a public relations

professional, lost the 2020 GOP primary.

You've got another Republican in it, Paul Wasgren, who is a lawyer.

You've got Kevin Herming, who is 66, a former chair of the Marathon County Republicans, former U.S.

Marine.

And then you've got another Republican, Nina Baum, who is the most recent interest into the race, small business owner.

And then you have three Democrats, Fred Clark, Chris Armstrong, and Ginger Murray in that particular race.

Honestly, there's also a part of me that kind of respects the decision of the delegation to not endorse if they generally truly felt there wasn't a clear front runner, which might show a little independence from the president and what he is actually wanting in that district.

But another part of me just kind of wonders if this was simply a way to just avoid that retribution as we've talked about.

And it says a lot about where the Republican Party is right now under the Trump administration if that was any part of their thought process.

Well, and it also goes to show that when it comes to local politics, people worry about...

what's happening in their backyard.

The people in the 7th Congressional District, while they pay attention to the national politics, their priority, as it should be, is on their district.

And just because Donald Trump says that a 25-year-old whose father-in-law is part of the cabinet and a former lumberjack, let's not leave

that out.

Road rules contestant, too.

Oh, yes.

That's a resume right there.

Well, road and transportation, I guess I qualified him

too late now.

run space force he's got all the qualifications

but that you know just because the president endorses him he's 25 we don't know and people people in the in

the

caucus are like we don't need to count on him because he might not be the best right person to represent us and we're gonna hold off and see maybe maybe down the road he

shows himself to be the best candidate.

From what I understand, he doesn't even really live in the district either, so maybe they're like, you know, he doesn't represent our values, who we are as a people, who we are as a community, and you know, I think though, if it is anything to do with other than maybe a lack of qualification, not really knowing who the front runner is, and maybe it is something to do with some sort of presidential retribution, I think that says a lot about where our Republican Party as a whole stands.

that they don't feel like they can make an honest assessment without getting mean posted about on social media, right?

I mean, that's not how this is supposed to work.

And anyway, it's 8.29 right now.

This is Daybreak.

I'm Jamie Martinson.

And

I'm Brian Noonan.

We're going to talk film tax incentives with our own Pete Schwab after this.

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It's Daybreak with Brian and Jamie.

It's 8.35 right now.

Thank you so much for joining us this morning on the Civic Media Network.

Brian, I think your heart would be happy if you were in the studio with me because I'm watching the Irish festivities happen for St.

Patrick's Day in Dublin, Ireland on my TV right now.

Oh, very nice.

It is.

There's a lot of fun stuff happening.

Corned beef and cabbage, is that your thing?

John's asking over on our social media feed today.

Yes?

No?

I

am a...

corned beef sandwich.

I did make a corned beef on Sunday.

I'm having some leftover sandwiches today with a nice pint of Guinness Draft.

That's how I, that's how

I will

celebrate.

But after I, you know, take my mom to the doctor.

Of course.

Adult responsibilities and all that.

Plus it's mom-a-noon, it's birthday.

So it

is, it is her birthday.

We took her out to a brewery on Saturday because at 89, she still wanted to kick back a few beers.

The

apple does not fall far from the tree.

So it was a lot of fun.

So yes, I hope everybody enjoys their St.

Patrick's Day.

I hope, I hope our next guest can enjoy his day.

He has

shoveled out.

He has, he has

cleared his sister's home and is back in his

own place.

The reason we're going to talk to Pete Schwab is because the creation of Wisconsin's film office and the $5 million

film tax credit program is creating more opportunities for local filmmakers and productions to further expand, which is going to help Wisconsin stay on the map and gain some new followers as a growing film industry hub.

So the governor explained the importance of the program saying, quote, it's a really important industry.

People love film.

They love arts in the state of Wisconsin.

It shows that we believe

It's a viable industry that employs all sorts of people and it also sells our state.

You know Pete Schwabba.

He's the host of Nightlight with Pete and Greg that's heard here on the Civic Media Network from 5 to 7 every day.

You probably also know that Pete is...

intimately connected with the film industry.

He's the writer, director, and star of the feature film The Godfather of Green Bay.

He also hosts Directors Cut on PBS.

And so we got him up early because he's been battling the elements from his bunker somewhere in the north of Wisconsin.

And he's here joining us now to talk about this.

Pete, first of all, how much snow did you get where you're at?

I was just looking that up before.

I've been saying we've gotten between 30 and 36 inches.

It might be closer to 30, but

it's, you

know, I know, it's just the worst snowfall I think in my lifetime.

Put some wind in there

and

it was a nightmare.

But we got back to our own house about 10 o'clock last night because the winds had died down, we still had power.

Uh, after the internet went out briefly for a few hours, we got that back too.

So I, I can't believe we're back as soon as we are, but it feels, it feels good.

I just want to say you did a great job convincing people you're Irish, Brian, when you really are not.

Your last name.

I'm

a Somali immigrant.

it's new ninsky and you know it and you shortened it when you got to ellis island and i well done

x-nay on the honesty x-nay i got a i got a whole brand built

on this is why you don't invite friends to the show though either they know all the secrets

right they know the secrets

and now what's funny

is there's some conspiracy theorists who are actually looking that up now he is so full of it

His name is Schwamba, and he's more Irish than New

Ninsky.

What the heck?

Well, Pete, like I said, we appreciate you being here.

So

you made a film here in Wisconsin.

So when you hear about this, the Wisconsin Film Office and the Film Tax Credit Program, what's your first reaction?

And how do you think it's going to affect filmmaking in this state?

You know, my first reaction was it's about time.

And I was very thankful to a lot of the people that kind of put the wheels in motion people that have been on night like Jeffrey Kurz who is a former Miramax executive who lives in Milwaukee now and make films Nathan Deming who's been on I think maybe your show too or other civic media shows as well I've known Nathan for years and a whole host of people that really were just kind of very diligent in keeping after this and it's a bipartisan bill it should have passed there's no reason for this not to pass in terms of

how it affects filmmakers.

That's an interesting question, because I feel like Wisconsin filmmakers are very loyal to Wisconsin.

They haven't left.

They want to be here, so they're going to find ways to make their films.

Now, I wouldn't have said this before the incident was passed.

But, you know, it's just a great program, and it should bring that out-of-state business that we want here, because I've always said you can film anything in Wisconsin.

We've got lakes, we've got the forests, we've got big cities.

farms so we don't have mountains that's about it so we could pretty much film anything here and I hope that the a I hope that the film office the new film office is Aggressive in recruiting projects to come here.

I also hope and I don't think there's money allocated for this but that we

ingrain this in our culture, in kids when they're young, and make this more of a cultural state.

When you live in a cold weather state, I'm saying this after three days of hell, man, get people, play in music and do in plays, and you learn the same lessons you do in sports or clubs.

It's working together, it's collaborative, and if we instill that in kids,

And there are people out there that do it, but I would like to see it even more, so that this isn't an issue.

When it comes time for the next vote, do we keep the incentives?

Do we not?

It's a no-brainer.

Oh, yeah, this is who we are.

That's how you keep incentives, because the second the state needs money for infrastructure, we kind of saw this in Michigan.

Oh, well, we'll just cancel the incentives, and that's not the way to do it.

So this is $5 million that has been set aside for filmmaking.

What kind of impact is that going to make, Pete?

Is that a starting point?

Would you like to see it grow over the years?

So what is your idea?

What is your take on the $5 million?

I think it's a great start.

I didn't live here at the time, but when they shot Public Enemies, the Michael Mann film, the rumor has it, or as I understand it,

that kind of used all the incentives that took the whole budget.

Wow.

And I think now they've structured it differently where I think you can get up to a million back on your project.

There's $5 million that they've allocated.

You have to, I believe you have to have a budget of at least $100,000 to qualify for the rebate, not rebate the credits.

Yeah, and then you know so even if it's a million dollars if you get five bigger projects That's at least five movies not one, but I don't think it's gonna be that I think there's gonna be a lot of money to go around to a lot of filmmakers and One of the advantages you get when you film in your hometown or your home state In Wisconsin at least yet.

We're not jaded, you know You mentioned a film I shot here the godfather of Green Bay years ago.

We shot up in Marinette by the

When we first started, everybody's like, what can I do?

People can stay here.

We'll make food.

This is amazing.

And by the end of the third week when we were done, it's like, how much longer are you guys gonna be here?

You know, that kind of thing.

So, you know, it is a hassle sometimes, but I love that everybody at the moment is, at least is behind it because, you know, the incentives are great, but also the local favors you get when you make a film are great too and save you a lot of money.

So for people who aren't clear on the concept, we hear that term about tax credit for productions coming to your state or your town.

What are they exactly?

There are several ways to mitigate risk when you raise money from people or private equity or whatever.

You can get an actual rebate.

You turn all your paperwork in.

They see how much money you spent in that state.

Like if it's a $100,000 budget and you spent 70 grand.

they're going to give you whatever that percentage is.

If it's 25%, they'll give you, well, whatever, 25%, $70,000.

Okay.

You know,

carry the one.

The math ain't math.

Thank you, Parker.

So it's yeah, it's it's just and states do it differently.

There are tax credits There are out-and-out rebates.

This

is

a form of tax credit where I believe you hand in your paperwork Then they sell that credit to a private company and it's worked that way I don't 100% understand that part I'm hoping to know more about it this summer because I'm helping someone make a film but Yeah, we'll see what happens.

I don't know there's there's just different ways to do it and I haven't I haven't heard of this way

But it sounds interesting, and we'll see how it goes.

We're talking with Pete Schwabba this morning, of course.

He is one of the hosts of Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.

He is also a filmmaker.

We're talking about this new bipartisan effort to keep filmmaking in the state of Wisconsin.

Because I know both of you have lived outside of Wisconsin, and I know you've both been involved in other projects.

I think this is, I want to get your take on this.

Or even with this $5 million incentive and this bipartisan effort, is Wisconsin still though playing catch up compared to obviously other states that maybe already have these incentives?

Yeah, for sure.

And better late than never.

Because I think how this could start working is.

If you get filmmakers that or people at studios or producers that are from Wisconsin that think it would be a kick to come back here and make a film I think Start there.

I don't know what their their strategy is for recruiting people But that might be a good launching point to get things rolling because yeah, like Georgia is Way out ahead.

I don't know if you guys remember like Louisiana had pretty aggressive incentives and it seemed like

for 10 years, every movie was shot in Louisiana.

Yep, everything was in New Orleans.

Smell the screen and Nicholas Cage was there with a ponytail and it was a nightmare.

So, you know, I think Georgia has crushed it, New Mexico has done really well, but again, they've committed to it.

It's part of their culture and fabric now.

Interestingly enough, California had to, you know, they kind of took things for granted, I think, I'm generalizing, but...

You know, they're coming back to now and I think that will always be an obvious place where people want to shoot stuff because so many people live there.

But Georgia and New Mexico have for sure crushed it.

And Minnesota has different forms.

We were looking about seven years, seven years ago, we were looking to shoot a film there because they have a state incentive and then they have an incentive up in the iron range, an additional incentive.

So it's like

30 and 25 percent.

So you're not going to get 55 percent because you have to spend money out of state.

But maybe you could get

40 of that and that's when you go to an investor and say we can guarantee 35 to 40 percent of this is coming back conservatively That means something you know because then they're only investing a certain amount on their dollar

Well Pete we would be remiss and you know I hate being remiss if we did not ask you about the Oscars the other night Any big any big surprises anything anybody who thought got snubbed that should have won how'd you feel about the whole ceremony?

You know, I don't like the word snubbed

mostly just when you use it.

But remiss was great, Brian.

No, I think, because snubbed is tough.

They're being voted by their peers.

You could say Timothy Chalamet was snubbed, but was he?

Michael B. Jordan was great.

I

just

watched Sinners again last night.

Um, so you could say it was Ryan Coogler snubbed.

No, because Paul Thomas Anderson had never won an Oscar either and he's had a 30, 35 year career.

So I don't think there were any snubs, but it was weird that Sean Penn just, it wasn't weird actually.

It was kind of on, on, uh, on point.

Yeah.

But he was great.

I had no problem with him winning.

Um, he was so good in that movie and Delroy Linda was great too.

But I think Sean Penn had more to do, so I kind of support that choice.

But so many great films this year, and I don't... I will say this, Brian, and maybe you can relate to this.

The comedy throughout the show, not good.

The monologue was great.

But the bits, oh my god, please stop.

It's

just so tedious.

Is this where we get into two comedians, critiquing other comedians?

No, because

they're not comedians.

Somebody writes stuff for people

who

aren't comedians, and they can't deliver it.

And it's awkward, and it's stilted.

And even the five women from Bridesmaids, who

should have?

No, that

was

not good.

That was

bad.

That was that's

what I'm saying and a friend of mine said what are we at the point now where nepo babies are writing this horrible These bits because they just did not land

is is there such a thing is that they're writing?

I'm gonna ask the two of you this in your expert opinion Is there such a thing that they're writing bits for something that they're too young to understand or remember?

I made that's

That's a fair point.

I don't know.

I don't know

who the writers

were.

I'm just asking.

I know

Greg Bach.

Yeah, Greg Bach yesterday said he had friends who were on the writing team for the monologue, so those are good writers.

Sure.

I don't know about the rest of it, though.

That's a good question.

Yeah,

I don't know who the other writers are.

Well, Pete, it's always a pleasure.

What's on tap tonight quickly for Nightlight?

We've got Mace Michaels helping us relive the last two days, unfortunately, but Mace is always outstanding.

And then we've got Rob Thomas, Madison Film Critic and CityCast Madison newsletter editor talking to Oscar.

So it should

be a lot of fun.

That's tonight at five on the Civic Media Network.

Thank you guys.

You're listening to Civic Media.

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Now back to more of Daybreak with Brian and

Jamie.

It's 8.52 right now.

Thank you so much for joining us.

And hey, happy St.

Patrick's Day.

We're getting a lot of good feedback over on our social chatter and also in text messages.

People loving the Irish music this morning.

Yeah, good picks by Parker.

Beat stuff sounds different than the normal

music we hear.

It's fun to switch it up a little bit.

It is.

And it's also a good reminder there's a lot of great Irish music that is not.

the old drinking songs or Danny Boy.

It's oh Danny Boy.

I'm like

I'm like the lead character Hugh Jackman in song sung blue.

There's so much more to

Neil Diamond than sweet

Caroline.

There's so much more Irish music than oh Danny Boy.

And some of it really kicks.

And

yeah,

so I'm glad people enjoyed it this morning.

Thank you Parker for getting that all together.

If you want to see more of us being us and not always talking about because

I think, Jamie, contrary to popular belief, this is not all we talk about.

We don't just talk politics all day.

We're like actual people with actual lives that do actual things sometimes.

No.

Sometimes I qualified it with some time.

No,

no, you're right.

We are actual people.

I'm 100%.

Well, I can

only speak for myself.

I don't know if Parker has a lizard head under that fake humanoid mask

that he's wearing.

Huh?

How did you know?

I know,

I blew your cover.

But yeah, so you can...

On our YouTube or Facebook and Instagram pages right now, and I think who knows where else it is, but go to Facebook and Instagram, Daybreak with Brian and Jamie.

You can watch Jamie, who put together a video for Pie Day.

Yeah.

But she didn't do math.

No.

She

actually tasted pies at a local Madison restaurant, and she gives her opinions, and we learn about the pies,

and it

makes you very hungry.

So

watch

this after

you've had a little breakfast.

Tough gig

is what

that was.

Did you get hazard pay?

No, no, I should have because I ate too much pie, but it was absolutely delicious.

I don't regret a moment of it.

So go check that out.

But speaking of tough gigs, since

it

is St.

Patrick's Day here in about six minutes or so at nine o'clock, you have a video that's going to be hitting our Facebook page because, you know, you got into the Irish Roots of Things and did a little whiskey taste testing

for St.

Patrick's Day.

So everybody can check that out as well.

Again, another tough gig, but you can get Brian's opinion on some really great whiskeys to partake in maybe with the corned beef and cabbage later tonight, which I've learned is that a traditional Irish fare?

Yeah, he didn't think so.

No,

it's not.

Corned beef came over, actually came over here because it was a way to cure the meat to save it during passage and it lasted longer through the winters.

So that's why the brining and stuff for the corned beef.

But now it's embraced over in Ireland now.

People

have

corned beef, you know, shepherd's pie, some bangers and mash, whatever you want to have today.

If you just, my only request, and this is just me being a purist and being surly,

Don't drink green beer.

That's so

weird.

It's so dumb.

That's what the college students do,

right?

Because it's like cheap at the bar tonight.

And yeah.

And listen, sorry, Parker, no offense.

I

know if I were in college and it was cheap, I drink whatever was cheap.

Yeah.

But green beer is it's a sign that you're Oh, Frank.

Oh, boy.

What kind of blast for me is that, Brian?

Not to drink green beer.

Green beer.

First of all, beer

isn't green.

Second of all, if... It is today?

No, it's not.

That's a marketing ploy.

Rivers aren't green either, guys.

Look, look.

People are, yes.

Logic Parker.

All

right.

Logic Parker.

No, the river is fine.

The river is tradition.

Green beer is just a marketing ploy.

It adds nothing to the beer.

It adds no flavor.

It adds nothing except, oh, look, I've Irish.

I'm drinking something green.

Have

a shamrock shake.

Get a cream de mince.

Have

a grasshopper today.

life.

What's that?

You have some whimsy in your life.

Frank,

whimsy

is for children and the simple.

That's who whimsy is

for.

Does Brian look like the kind of guy who's going to take up whimsy in his life?

Yeah, when did I

give you the impression

that I'm whimsical?

You should have a little bit of whimsy.

You know what, I do have whimsy.

Give me three pints again, and I'll be the most whimsical man you have ever met.

I

am

all I'm dancing around.

I'm flitting

from

place to place, Frank.

We go, you and I go to a bar today.

Sure.

They have a special green beers, $3.

Yeah.

Wow.

Are you taking that or are you taking the $7 Guinness that's going to, you're going to be full after drinking half of

it.

That's a

minute.

Hold

on.

Hold on now.

I want to do more than chew on my beer.

First of all,

First

of all, you are wildly

mislabeling Guinness.

Guinness Draft Stout is 4.5% alcohol and 125 calories.

It is barely more than your average light beer.

Just because it's dark doesn't mean it's chewy and heavy.

Why don't you have a little less whimsy and a little more fact-based reporting, Frank, when it comes to dissing one of the main exports other than my family from the Emerald

Isle?

John over on our YouTube chat says Molly's and Oshkosh used to have $5 trays of beer, a fast food style plastic tray filled with plastic cups of beer, green on St.

Patty's.

I love that.

He goes on to say it was also green the next day.

Because nobody bought it, because it's just for marketing.

If you want to drink it,

Frank, yeah, he is.

If you want to drink green beer, God bless you.

You know, just don't parade around like it makes you an authentic Irishman.

It doesn't.

That's why we're a green shirt.

To let everybody know.

Did

you are or aren't?

Okay, all right.

I

am.

Well, you know.

That's it.

I was in Dropkick Murphy's today.

You were in the

Dropkick Murphy's?

Or you're

listening to Dropkick Murphy's?

Listening.

Oh, all right.

Very good.

Well, enough green beer.

You could be in dropkick, Murphy, is if that's really what you want to do today.

Why don't you just get a green board and walk around downtown, Frank?

You're a real Irishman.

I could have

stolen so many.

Oh,

if you're going to wrestle them away from the

car.

I'm

surprised the cops were showing poor in a mod.

I would have thought they would

just put them

in the trunk like they used to do when they stopped us for

buying beer.

Brian, there were videos of girls just crying, just sobbing.

Nothing says nothing says celebrate your heritage like a badly mixed Borg of booze and then you crying and letting your boyfriend fight on the train

wrap up this conversation John says crap beer is crap no matter the dye added I guess

You can't argue that.

There you go.

That's a good one.

Bravo, my friend.

Bringing it home.

It is 8.59 right now.

This has been another great, we'll call it addition of Daybreak here on the Civic Media Network.

I am Jamie Bartonson.

And I'm Brian Noonan.

Have a wonderful rest of your St.

Patrick's Day.

Thank you for listening.

Enjoy.

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