Acts of Terror And ICE Arresting The Wrong People (Hour 1)

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So six right now.

And if you are in the great state of Wisconsin, boy, oh boy, hold down your hat because it is windy today.

And we have a whole lot of snow coming in parts as well.

I am JB Martin said.

Off the entire region.

And JB, you said there were things flying about

on your drive in.

Yeah.

There were

debris and fences and.

Yeah,

yeah, no, no animals luckily this morning.

But on my way in, you know, for my 15, 20 minute commute, a couple of metal garbage cans that had been emptied and flew into the middle of main roadways.

And then of course, you know, I'm here in Madison.

So if you're in Madison, you know, the beautiful Bree's Steven Stadium, and they're doing a little construction work over there, some of that chain link fence that, you know, they put up for temporary to keep people out.

There were panels of it that it just.

decided to make its way into the middle of the road.

So the Fine Madison Police Department was out there making sure everybody got where they needed to be safely.

But take it easy if you're out there because I can't imagine having a high profile vehicle on these roads today.

My goodness.

No, and I love to when the weather monkeys always tells, and be sure to secure your trashcads at outdoor furniture.

All right, I guess I'll do that.

I don't remember being woken up by wind in recent memory, and that was this morning as the windows, I have an old house and the windows rattle,

and

today I was like, oh, they might rattle right out of the frames.

This could be

something.

Old knew it's not going to matter today with these winds.

You're probably going to have some rattling windows because the wind,

is pretty relentless.

And we're going to actually talk with a meteorologist later on this morning.

After around 7.30, Mace Michaels from Severe Studios will join us, and he's going to give us a little update and a little outlook as to what we can expect across the state over the weekend.

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And you can only enter through the app.

Cash prizes, daily cash prizes, I should say, and then a big grand prize.

So the app will come in handy for that as well.

But we have a lot of news.

to get to.

Yeah, so

let's get to as we start to we've started since the the war began some headlines from Iran for US service members were killed when a refueling aircraft went down in Iraq.

The US military said the incident was quote not due to hostile fire or friendly fire and quote but involved a second US tanker.

So for more US service people killed in a war that we don't know why we're there

or that we don't know when it's going to end either according to this administration also in

headlines this morning.

Explosions have rocked Iran, according to state media, where large crowds are gathering to mark all Quds Day.

That's an annual international rally in support of Palestinians.

Israel had warned that it would target sites in Iran's capital.

Israel also said its fighter jets struck 200 targets in Iran.

Strike in northern Israel damaged buildings.

Gulf states have also been repelling attacks.

Two foreigners were killed in Oman and explosions were heard in Dubai.

Amid severely limited communication and internet access in Iran, some residents have received a text message purporting to be from the revolutionary guards telling them Iran is winning the war.

Funny, that's the same thing our president is telling

us.

Everybody's winning.

I don't know how everybody can be winning, but they're all winning.

And finally, Goldman Sachs has forecast 20% higher oil prices for 2026.

The war could also cause supply crisis for helium.

which is a crucial chip-making material and for fertilizers, which is horrible news for everybody in our rural communities, the farmers, the agricultural business.

We are actually going to talk to the policy director from Triple-A later on in the program to talk about how bad it could get with gas prices.

You know, if you've been at the pump, man, it is...

It's bad business.

It's bad business at the pump.

It's bad business at the airport.

So we'll get a little insight into all of the things travel because this is a prime time of year.

There's a lot of families getting ready for spring break.

There's a lot of students getting ready for spring break.

And then, of course, people looking ahead to those summer vacations where you have to decide, is a road trip cheaper or is it cheaper to fly?

Well, this year, take your pick.

Yeah, because it used to be almost a no brainer.

Go, I'll drive it.

I'm going to save a

lot of money.

But

now with

The fuel cost for...

your car and fuel costs for the plane, maybe you just have a staycation.

Which is

the worst kind of vacation.

I actually foresee a lot of people taking that route because I think this year, and then you've got the soaring prices at the grocery stores and in the utility bills, I think there's going to be a lot of people who are going to have to make those decisions this year for their families, unfortunately.

Well,

yesterday was another horrible day of violence here in the U.S.

First was in Michigan, West Bloomfield Township.

You probably heard this.

A gunman rammed a truck into a synagogue before opening fire.

That was yesterday afternoon.

The attack happened just before one o'clock at Temple Israel, located on Walnut Lake Road in West Bloomfield.

Authorities say the suspect drove his truck through the synagogue's front door and began shooting.

And I'm always amazed.

horribly amazed at these kind of attacks.

I don't...

I don't understand them.

It's horrible.

And this is, you know, when you're targeting... I don't understand the random ones.

I don't understand these because this is definitely... You have to assume it's anti-Semitism.

It is against a synagogue, a Jewish place of worship, and all the talk about Israel, not only from the attacks on the Gaza Strip, from a...

you know years

the last

couple years to now the the rumor that they were the ones who

cajole Trump into going into war.

There's a lot of anti-Israel sentiment running around.

And in this particular case, their investigations are ongoing, but attacks like this are, to me, they're always pointless, they're frightening, and they're completely unwarranted.

And honestly, houses of worship should be some of the safest places in any community where people go to pray, to gather, raise their kids in their faith, support one another.

But that's why they become targets, right?

Because...

If you're inclined to do this, you go, well, these people aren't even going to be paying attention.

They're going in there.

They don't expect anything.

So I'm going to get them at their most vulnerable.

What I think is probably most upsetting in cases like this, and this wasn't the only one, and we'll get into that in just a moment.

But I think in cases like this, the fact that we are becoming so immune and deaf to them in this country that

I mean, out of everything that was happening yesterday, these should have been major news stories.

This

story in Detroit, the one at Old Dominion, which we'll give you some information about in just a moment.

But we've become so deaf to what is actually happening in this country between the school shootings and attacks like this at places of worship that it's just a blip on our everyday radar.

And these attacks should never be acceptable.

The gunmen yet in Detroit exchanged gunfire with the synagogue security guards.

They were already on site.

security personnel ultimately shot and killed the gunmen, preventing any further harm.

140 children, staff, and congregants inside the building, including students who were attending the synagogue school.

Now, officials did confirm, Brian, that all children and staff were accounted for.

They

were

safe.

No students were injured.

The synagogue immediately went into lockdown, though, and nearby schools and houses of worship were also told to shelter in place while police responded.

Obviously, you can imagine there was a large police presence, FBI, ATF all on the scene, SWAT teams from around

the state as well.

So you can imagine that there was a large presence of police, but authorities initially searched the area to determine whether the attacker had any accomplices, parents.

There's photos from the scene, obviously in any sort of case, it's, it's always watching that devastation of the parents and them running to the scene.

I hate to say it because we have become so deaf to these instances, but there are some pretty iconic photos in this world that exist because of these types of attacks of watching parents running to just find their children.

And I hate seeing them every single time.

Yeah, it never gets easy and it shouldn't get easy.

Now we turn our attention to Norfolk, Virginia, Old Dominion University.

The FBI is investigating a shooting there as an act of terrorism because the suspect was 36 year old Mohammed Baylor Aijalo, a former Virginia National Guardsman.

He pled guilty in 2016 for attempting to provide material support to ISIS.

He served prison time then he was released in 2024.

Still access to a weaponry, obviously.

So this one

This one has a much more terrorist feel.

Terrorism is one of those words that you can put to a lot of things.

I believe that the attack in Michigan, rather, was also terrorism, but this one has a lot of Middle Eastern terrorists.

connections.

Yeah absolutely and unfortunately in this particular case at Old Dominion an ROTC instructor was killed in the shooting and two ROTC students were also critically injured and taken to a local hospital.

Now the students were

basically heroes yesterday.

These ROTC students, because the ones in the room subdued the gunman, they prevented further loss of life, and the gunman actually died during the incident.

Police arrived within about four minutes of the first 911 calls, which is incredibly fast timing, and the situation was contained very, very quickly.

So kudos to the police, kudos to those students as well.

And I was thinking back,

thing about like 30 seconds ago to the story out of Michigan and how you said security personnel were already on site and it's a sad state of affairs when a house of worship has to have security on site.

We used to live about a

half mile from a synagogue.

And since those October attacks a couple of years ago, there was always a police car parked out front.

There was always an armed guard at the door.

And I can't, you know, you go to church normally, you go to synagogue, you go to the temple, you go to your mosque, you shouldn't have to say, oh, here's the armed security that's keeping me safe.

But there's a lot of shoulds.

going around, not a lot of reality, just a lot of us thinking about the way things should be.

And then on the other side, they're thinking about the way things should be, but it's the antithesis of our desires.

Right.

I think the one thing that we could all agree on though is that targeting people because of who they are, what they believe, where they worship, it has no place in any of our communities.

But I mean, that's what all violence is.

You're targeting someone.

You're targeting someone either weaker or different, or you have something you think you can gain from attacking them.

So it's a systematic, intrinsic problem in this country.

We love violence in this country.

We do.

Look at the best.

I'm as guilty of this as anybody else.

I love a good action movie.

I love a good shoot them up.

I love the the old West mentality and all of that until you know, it leaves the screen in books on TV.

That's all great.

But then when it comes to the streets for real, you're like, oh, no, this is not.

You weren't supposed to take that literally, right?

You

know,

and I think with with what we see in this country, the one thing that I hope we never do is normalize it because none of this is normal.

guns in schools, attacking synagogues.

None of that is normal.

Nothing about that is normal, honestly.

It's 619 right now, and Brian, coming up, we have a good question.

Kohl's is going to lower some

prices.

Is it considered good marketing?

Is it considered low income?

We'll talk about that.

It's 619.

I'm Jamie Martinson.

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Happy Friday.

We hope you're having a great start to the day.

My name is Jamie Martenson.

And I'm Brian Noonan.

Hey, when you go shopping, do you want to be considered low income, no matter how much money you actually make?

855-75 Civic, 855-752-4842.

Coles is coming out with a new marketing strategy.

And I, for one,

I don't need it.

I am a bit offended as a person who shop at Kohl's.

This is, this is, I'm like, wait a minute.

I, I don't need to, I'm not bougie by any stretch of the imagination.

I don't need to, you know, I don't always need name brands and that kind of stuff.

I look for value like everybody else, I think.

But Kohl's is focusing on its core customers, which it states, this is a quote, middle to low income customers.

In an interview with the journal Sentinel,

Cole's CEO Michael Bender said the company is focused on customers in those income levels and how they respond to the company's changes.

I like I never considered Cole's high

end, but

I consider them quality and utilitarian

and a

good value, but that doesn't mean I want to be thought of as and listen, I may in fact be low income.

You don't know,

but I don't want I don't want to be considered.

low income.

Well, because now every time you shop there, you're going to be like, wait, am I actually low

income?

Here's the one thing I will say.

Should I

never buy anything out of sale just to prove that I'm not low income?

Right, right.

I

would like to pay double

for this towel, please.

Just to prove you a point.

Okay, sir, but you know, well.

What I do appreciate though is that maybe not calling all of your customers lower to middle income is probably, maybe not the way I would have went.

However, what I can appreciate is the fact that they are...

They are making an effort to make sure that they have quality items, and that's essentially what their CEO is saying, that they want

to make sure we

have quality items that we can all afford, especially right now, when the economy is so up and down.

And so I can appreciate that part of it.

I feel like there was a better way to maybe roll this out.

It is all, it's all optics.

It's all the

strategy

of what you say.

I agree with, I think, I don't know who would say, nope, I want lesser quality

items, I want them to cost more, and I

want to have to replace them every other week.

Right, no, nobody's saying that.

Nobody's gonna say

that.

So I agree with you, Jamie, this is a good, it's a good plan.

But marketing is important.

Marketing is,

everything,

that's why they're...

Yes.

That's why

we yell about marketing this show because it's low income.

And honestly, you're not lying.

There are lots of times when, you know, this is why a lot of companies don't allow their CEO to make these public statements and they have people who do it in place of the CEO for reasons just like this.

Now, essentially.

We love the poor's.

I hope

the poor's will come and shop at Coals with their last three cents.

We're going to high quality.

Yes.

You know, you people who can't really afford to go to Macy's,

you just

come on in here.

Really, at this point, I feel like we're all lower to middle income, though.

Yes.

You know, that's the other thing.

Who are you catering to because we're all in the same boat right now, especially with what is happening in the economy?

No, financially.

I know a

lot of people who make a lot more money than I do, the choppet coles.

Oh, of course.

That's why they continue to have their money.

1% of the 1%.

They're not splurging, right?

They're doing the thrifty fiscal thing.

Financially, though, Kohl's has reported $125 million in profit in this final quarter, nearly three times what it earned during the same time just two years ago.

However, overall sales still decline, showing the company is facing challenges in the retail market.

And Bender, the CEO, of course, described the company's recovery as progressive improvement, noting that some of these retail turnarounds take time and can't happen overnight.

Now, there is another layer to this story, though, too, Brian, because Kohl

is one of several Wisconsin companies that's currently suing the Trump administration over tariffs.

Because of course, those tariffs increase the cost of importing a lot of goods, including the clothing, the shoes, whatever you're buying, your home goods at Coals, and then those costs usually end up getting passed on to the consumers.

So when you hear Coals talking about customers trying to stretch their dollars, that part might not just be marketing language.

That essentially could be them trying to keep down their costs a little bit too, right?

Yeah, exactly.

Again, it bears repeating just because people think it's market.

It's messaging, messaging, messaging.

What do you want?

It's, you know, you roll out new Coke

and

it bombs.

You roll out, you have to, yeah, that's right, Parker.

I went all the way back to new Coke.

You did.

I'll tell you

later.

Oh,

wow.

Oh, there's a story.

There's a story.

There's a story.

No, you tell

us now.

What's the story?

You

can't tease like that.

I've been teased over.

Oh, show within a show, secret show.

This is where you go to the YouTube stream

and you get to hear the story on the secret show.

Sponsored by no one yet, fill in the blank here.

My new Coke.

Maybe Kohl's.

Or a new Coke that doesn't exist anymore.

That would be about how we roll here at Civic Media.

We'll get you a sponsor that doesn't even exist.

Anyway, go ahead.

Is the show.

secret show focused at lower and middle income people too, and this is for the high-end consumer.

Is that what we're...

Really?

You would consider any of this to be for a high-end consumer?

Really?

I

think mentally, mentally high-end, Jamie.

I don't care

what a person has in their wallet.

I don't care either.

I don't care

about the substance of their heart,

Jamie, unlike

you.

I'm not always looking for the bottom

line.

I'm just saying, I'm not a bottom line person.

I'm just saying, would you consider any of this to be high-class around here?

Well...

Listen, as one of the suits, I'm not going to play and

fall

into

your

trap.

I get it.

I just, I'm trying to think.

Anytime I need like tablecloths or towels, that's a play.

And Cole's always has really

good deals

on holiday things.

Oh,

yeah.

And you know, I've

I've bought clothes there.

Of course.

You know, we've bought all kinds of stuff there.

Yeah.

But now, now I'm going to feel dirty.

I'm going to have to do it all online.

So I don't have to go in because I don't want to feel, I don't want to feel tainted.

And again, that's just me one being a little facetious.

So relax.

And realizing that everybody shops there.

So the CEO should have stayed in the boardroom.

Yeah.

That's I'm sure Kohl's has a

Brilliant marketing and advertising department.

Of course.

They they so like you said sometimes Even the boss has to just zip it for a little bit.

Okay, and let let the pros stay in your lane boss.

That's right Let

we'll handle talking to the poor

get a spokesperson.

It's fine.

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Speaking of Lake Superior to Lake Michigan and all points in between, you're probably going to see some snow and definitely some high winds over the next couple of days.

Roger from Stevens Point chiming in over on the text line this morning, Brian.

I almost did my Red Fox impression last night after seeing the 12 to 18 inch snow forecast saying this is the big.

biggest what I ever had.

Yes, of course.

That's what she said.

Good moment.

Yeah, we're going to see some weather through the region over the weekend and many parts of the state going to get several inches of snow.

We're actually going to have a meteorologist, Mace Michaels, joining us around 7.30 this morning to talk about that and give us a little bit of a weekend outlook.

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Yeah, just a sneak peek a couple a couple of big Social videos coming

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Yeah, you're releasing one tomorrow, right?

Maybe even later today.

I put maybe

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Frank in charge of that.

Yeah

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That's right.

I got to do a little taste testing of some pies because

you know, Pi Day happens to be tomorrow.

And here's the thing, I was an English major, you're not getting me to celebrate any mathematical equation anytime soon.

So I wanted to celebrate-

No, I hear Pi, I don't spell Pi,

I don't

see Pi, I eat Pi.

I wanted to celebrate something I know, fruit and cream in the middle of a buttery crust.

That's what I know when it comes to Pi, so that's what I celebrate.

Yeah, so we will be adding different things and trying to, so, you know,

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Like the people who are leashes with us every morning on YouTube.

I love having a leash along.

Thank

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There's a couple other people who are here every morning.

We appreciate that.

Tell your friends, you know, we're not coals.

We welcome low income, high income, no income, derelicts, reprobates.

Everybody's welcome.

You might not get a lot of high class.

You might not get high class.

here but you'll get a lot of other stuff too and we'll have some fun along the way so

it's good time.

Classes just a word.

Doesn't really mean anything.

Let's look at Sheboygan Falls because you know there's been a lot of ice activity up that way and ice officers arrested a Sheboygan Falls woman during a routine immigration check this week even though

Even though an immigration judge had previously canceled her deportation order, Alvira Benitez is her name.

She's 50 years old.

She recently began the process of applying for a green card.

After a judge ruled, she could remain in the United States.

But does that matter to ICE?

No, because she's a brown woman, and she must be illegal, even with paperwork that says she's not.

So we're going to rearrest her.

And boy, just another feather in ICE's cap, Jamie.

It is.

And at some point,

It stories like this that make it really hard to not question what is happening in our immigration system right now.

I mean, we see it play out in our own eyes, right?

But when you look at this case, it feels like a deeply flawed system.

And it raises the question of whether, I mean, I think we can answer that.

People are being targeted, not because they're dangerous, not because they've committed crimes, but because the system knows that they're easy to find.

I mean, people are told,

to go follow the rules and to go through the immigration process the right way so that they can become a citizen in this country.

And this woman essentially did, and they go to their check-ins.

They file their paperwork, Brian.

They try to get their green card.

They try to get legal residency, and then ICE still targets them anyway and tries to deport them.

It's a no-win situation.

Well, they came

in to listen.

I'll tell, I'm mansplaining it to

you, little lady.

They came in illegally in the first place, so I don't care now if they're doing it the right way.

They

should have done it the right way at first, because now...

They're doing it the backwards way.

The backwards

don't play here in the US of A.

I guess not.

I guess not.

But Elvira's immigration case started last year after she accidentally crossed into Canada during a family road trip in Michigan that triggered

her

detention by immigration authorities.

So she spent six months in ice custody in 2025 before the immigration judge renewed her case.

Then she fled an abusive home from in Mexico as a teenager.

she's lived in the United States without legal status for about 35 years.

The immigration judge actually canceled her deportation order partly because her detention had caused hardships for her children, including her younger kids who struggled why mom was in custody.

We hear this

a lot,

right?

Now, during that time, her two adult daughters, who are US citizens, stepped in to care for the younger siblings.

And even after the judge allowed her to pursue legal residency, the Department of Homeland Security delayed

the required background check for more than a month, which then prolonged this detention before she was actually released in December.

So that's how we get to right now, anyway.

The federal government appealed the judge's decision following that, which paused the process then for her green card.

And despite that appeal, Elvira continued following all the immigration rules.

She attended her mandatory supervision appointments with the federal officials and then was arrested again Tuesday during one of the required check-ins at the Department of Homeland Security office in Milwaukee.

So she went to her check-in like

she's supposed

to?

Yes.

Other than her name inspiring one of the most annoying songs in music history.

But so fun to see it at bar.

I know, but it doesn't sound like she is not only not the worst of the worst, not even close

to

being in the running for anywhere on the list of the worst.

No.

So why are we wasting so much taxpayer money on a woman who is in the process of doing what she's supposed to do?

And

the

judge has said,

She's doing it.

Leave her alone.

What, what, what burr is in the saddle of ice that we have to focus on a 50 year old woman who is raising her kids in Cheboygan Falls, Wisconsin?

What, what is it about her that has got her in the crosshairs for all of this?

It makes zero sense.

There's, there's, there, my mind sometimes goes to this.

Are, are they picking on the most vulnerable?

the easiest because it makes them look tough and makes them look like they're adhering to what the government... It doesn't make them

look

tough.

Right, I know this and you know this and several of our listeners probably know this.

I hope

all our listeners

know this.

I'm

going

to give them more credit.

To this administration.

It doesn't matter.

If you're deporting somebody who's brown, if you're deporting somebody who's here illegally, they don't care what that looks like.

They just want those numbers to continue to increase because they have a mission to get out as many illegal immigrants as absolutely possible because that is what this president campaigned on.

But aren't you...

Aren't you only isn't everybody who's going through the process technically illegal until you get that green card?

They don't care they're here illegally so they want them out because at the end of the day I still don't believe this has anything to do with immigration at all I have I believe it fully has everything to do with the color of one skin

I'm guessing and I don't know this there must be white immigrants right who come here there

are

maybe I I know for a fact

There are a lot of my homeland mates.

A lot of Irish people come here under a work visa and then never go back.

Now, is that right?

No.

But they blend in until they open their mouths.

They blend in.

Right.

Right.

And that's the key right because that's the only difference if there's a 50 year old Irish woman who came here 35 years ago to escape whatever she was escaping in Ireland and She's been working.

She's been raising her family and now she's in the process of getting her green card and a judge has ruled that you can't deport her Nobody's going after her right

Right.

I mean, and here's the thing, as we talk about this story with Elvira, obviously we don't know her personally, but by all accounts, she appears to be someone who has been working, raising her children and trying to move through the legal process to stay in this country.

I mean,

an immigration judge even recognized the hardship and basically said, let's start the process.

Let's apply for the green card.

And I think that's the part that should concern people because this isn't just a story about one woman in Sheboygan Falls.

If someone can be detained while following the system exactly as they were instructed to do by the judges, by attorneys, by this administration, then this is happening in communities all across not only Wisconsin, but this country.

Whether it's Sheboygan, whether it's Green Bay, Milwaukee, Wausau, Picketown, you know this is happening all across the country.

We see the news headlines, and now it just happens that we're seeing it more in our own home state.

Well, it led to that judge being centered in Milwaukee.

Right.

You can't arrest people when they're doing things the right way, when you're going to your hearing, when you're going to see your immigration officer, when you're going to court.

Those are all things that citizens do.

Yes.

you can't lay in wait for these people unless you have a warrant and proof that this person has committed something so heinous that they have got to go and then

they

do have to go.

Right.

But somehow, again, we don't know Elvira, giddy up a umbapa umbapa umbapa, but...

I don't think there's been nothing in any reports that say she was a drug trafficker.

She

was a killer.

No.

Sounds like she was a mom who was trying to take care of her kids who tried to escape a really bad situation many, many years ago.

Mark is chiming in over on the text line this morning saying, as I brought it before, it seems to me it is a violation of expo facto, changing the rules while people are legally in the system, making them illegal.

Dayum Steven Miller and Donald Trump.

Now, if you want to chime in,

this morning, we'd love to hear from you, 1-855-752-4842.

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We always welcome you to be a part of the conversation.

Now, a virus story isn't over though, Brian, because after the arrest, ICE transferred her to a detention facility outside of Chicago.

Now, I don't, it wasn't specified which one.

I'm going to a broad view because

that's the one.

Yep.

Now, her attorney says that she has no criminal record, she has no legal issues, and that the agency was not required to detain her while the appeal is pending.

According to ICE data, more than 100 people were arrested at the Milwaukee DHS office in 2025.

going through the process just like Elvira.

And about three quarters of those individuals had no criminal history or pending charges.

This is happening nationally.

Tens of thousands of immigrants were arrested in 2025.

About a third of those had no criminal background.

Remember though, we were getting out the worst of the worst.

Worse to the worst.

We were gonna get out the bad guys.

Now Elvira's family and attorney argue that this detention separates from her US citizen children.

It also raises the question they say about whether

people can rely on immigration court decisions, whether cases are still being appealed.

Under this administration, no.

And talk about the laziest form of law enforcement.

Right?

We're

not going to investigate.

We're just going to sit outside the immigration office and grab up everybody.

Because there's a chance they're violating the law.

So we might as well just get them there.

Uh, you know, Mark can pray to sack warrants.

They like, uh, it's like the old, uh, joke about badges.

They don't need no stinking warrants.

No, apparently not.

They don't.

And they don't need to investigate.

We'll just wait here.

And, uh, that's why cherry picking in soccer is so frowned upon.

And that's why

there's the offside rule in.

Hockey so that this kind of thing can't happen.

I mean

good enough for sports.

It should be good enough for law enforcement.

This is this is complicated Immigration is it's often emotional anyway, but none of these stories Make any of this better or worse.

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I didn't know I'd be happy to hear Nickelback on a Friday morning.

And yet here we are.

Not mad at it, Parker.

You're

not mad at it.

I love it.

Look

at these photographs.

Thank you.

I love it.

We do have a text that we want to talk.

I go to here quickly before we talk about Pete Higgs and the vanity tour that it is.

Aaron chiming in from

Madison as we were talking about Elvira.

If you joined us last segment, she is a woman in Sheboygan Falls going through the immigration process and now being detained.

But he's

says how many kids did she have three in communities?

Departing her eliminates four brown voters.

And, you know, it's funny.

It's hard to argue with that kind of logic on a Friday morning, Brian.

We got

to get rid of generational voters.

We don't even want them growing up.

Right.

Right.

Well, it's

like in Inigo, Montoya.

And she has two adult daughters who are taking care of the younger siblings, so Erin might be on to something there.

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What do you think of Pete Hegseth's photographs?

That's the question for this, because Pete's not happy about them.

Pistol Pete is, you know, he's used to being on TV.

We had to get makeup tents and things for him at the Defense Department, which seems, for somebody who rages against wokeness,

It seems kind of woke to get all gussied up to go out when you're talking about war and stuff, but that's just

me.

He's only done TV on the weekends.

He would know nothing else.

That's right.

Weekday TV people don't wear makeup.

Only weekend people wear makeup.

I mean, that's what he knows.

He knows going into a dressing room, having his makeup done, and then trotting out in front of the cameras.

That's what he essentially

knows.

I know, but...

Now he's the war god.

He's, you know, he's the terminator.

He's the punisher.

He's the man who is supposed to be tough and ready to go, but he is really a vain little baby because he and the Defense Department have barred press photographers from briefings because they published photos that Hegseth and his staff deemed quote unquote

unflattering.

Yeah, they saw under your soul, Pete.

That was that was the problem.

They saw the darkness and evil that lives within.

Oh, that's just me editorializing folks.

Sorry.

That this story about him banning the photographers is according to two people familiar with the decision.

But they had to speak anonymously, because they thought they'd be retaliated against.

Maybe it's me.

And maybe it's because of my total disdain for pistol Pete, that

I know picture of him is flattering, but talk about just a vain, petulant, insecure little baby man, almost as bad as his boss, but

at

least, at least for the president, they can still take

pictures.

Oh, and I want you to explain, because there's a part in here that's going to infuriate me even

more.

OK, OK.

Well, I'll let you listen.

No, go ahead.

I'm going to take a sip.

OK.

So this all stems from the March 2 briefing that came just days after the very first initial strikes in Iran that killed the Ayatollah, which of course took place on February 28.

It was also the first time that Pete Hagseth had appeared from the Briefing Room podium since

June 26.

So several outlets, including the Associated Press, Reuters, and Getty Images sent photographers to the briefing from Hague Seth and General Dan Cain, who's chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

So after they published these photos, which have obviously a

Huge reach because they're licensed by publications globally members of Hague says staff told colleagues that they did not like the way that the secretary looked so AIDS just decided to shut out photographers from the two subsequent briefings at the Pentagon on March 4th and 10th according to those two people who know this

these decisions.

Pentagon Press Secretary Kingsley Wilson wrote, quote,

This is where you're going.

That's

how dare you.

How dare you mess with somebody's business because your vain influencer of a war god has decided he doesn't like the way he looks.

Blame God.

He's always talking about God.

He's always talking about how this is a holy war.

Blame God.

God made you look how you are.

If you turn and make a dopey face when you're talking about crushing everybody.

And listen.

I'm not above knowing that there might be an editor who dislikes pistol-peach and decides that it's time to, you know, oh, this picture makes him look like a dork.

And how unflattering was it?

Was his pocket square not straight?

Did someone catch him wearing the shoes that the president gave him?

I'm not really sure what was happening that made it so unflattering.

Whereas

white Christian nationalist tattoos showing.

But here's the thing.

This is not the first time that Hague Seth has sparred with the press since he's become...

He's

a wannabe

tough guy.

Right.

In October, hundreds of credentialed Pentagon reporters, if you remember, in the way back machine, because again, an eternity since these things happened, turned

in

their credentials and dozens walked out of the building because they refused to sign some stupid policy prohibiting journalists from soliciting any information that the government did not authorize.

Hey, that's

their

job.

their jobs.

So now all we have in those actual briefings that are coming from the Pentagon are places that are right, very right-leaning organizations that only verge on news.

It's sensationalized news is essentially what they're doing, but it pleases this administration because then nothing bad is being said about the policies.

And that's what this

literally is.

That's

right.

We don't investigate.

We don't question.

We sign our loyalty pledges.

And if we don't want to, we'll figure out a way to keep you out.

And, you know, oh, I'm and I'm sure these photographers are going to be able to get

press credentials.

Oh, yeah.

I'm sure they're going to be right on that for them.

Absolutely.

So if you

see unflattering pictures of Pete or the president, be sure to circulate them on social media.

I'm sure they'll enjoy

that very much.

They'll love it.

Yeah, that'd be good.

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