Lead, Don’t Leave (Hour 2)

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Lead, Don’t Leave (Hour 2)

Civic Media Mornings · Fri Feb 20, 2026

Kathryn Lake

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And I'm Brian Noonan.

Earlier in the show, we were talking about all the things that the state legislature is trying to get done before session ends today.

We also told you that we were going to get some expert insight and we have that right now.

State Representative Karen DeSanto is here.

She represents Assembly District 40.

Representative, thanks for being here.

We appreciate you getting up early.

I know you're up early anyway trying to get everything done before you guys go home.

Let me ask you first the big announcement yesterday.

What was your reaction when you heard Robin Voss say that he is not seeking reelection?

After 13 years, he is stepping down.

Well, that's the end.

Good morning and thank you so much for having me so early in the morning.

I appreciate you both so much in your in your civic media.

Yeah, well yesterday was a big day.

We call it a hat trick.

We had a hat trick yesterday, so Yeah, Robin Boston out see was he was stepping down a lot of things, you know

It's very easy to get very divided in the legislature.

And politics, as we know, politics can really boil down to a lot of things with people, but I really have to commend Robin Voss on his leadership for so many years.

And he's, you know, as a long-term leader for me, one of the reasons I ran for office was to change that leadership.

So his announcement, I was very happy to hear his announcement that he would be stepping down.

Do you think that this, with his departure, Karen, do you think that this creates an opportunity for some sort of bipartisan reset?

I mean, he's been there for over a decade.

He was the leader of some of the more controversial Scott Walker agendas.

So do you expect the policy to maybe take a more bipartisan direction as he departs and new, new, we'll say new blood essentially comes in there?

Jamie, yeah, I mean, I certainly hope for that.

Really coming as a new legislator, a new legislator, kind of dough-eyed, I suppose, to a degree thinking, oh, this is how it's going to work.

Well, that's not how it worked.

And it was very, very, very divided.

I am always hopeful that with new leadership, we could take a different bent.

Just yesterday was a...

a clear indication of that.

We did have a lot of unanimous votes.

They weren't on the big issues that we wanted, but to just really take a step back, I'm hoping that we do, that we can all take a step back and go, how can we best serve the people of Wisconsin?

It is really not about me or him or her.

It really is a collective march down the field of how we can best serve our people.

Representative, you talked about the trifecta.

We talked about the one leg of the trifecta.

The other two, we talked about a little bit earlier, the postpartum Medicaid coverage and the breast cancer screening bill.

This is what I could never understand in talking about these for the last number of years.

Why they didn't move forward and why was it all just, is it all...

on Robin Voss is this the only reason because now he makes the announcement all of a sudden he lets these votes come and the votes pass one unanimously and one with one dissension it seems congratulations first I'm passing them but what the hell took so long

oh Brian Brian Brian 20 minutes is gonna be enough what took so long yeah well

Here, here's the real.

Unfortunately, I think being in that position for as long as he was created too much power.

And when one person can wield that much authority over a party, so his party fell in line if he said.

if he said go they went and or if he said stop they certainly stopped and we know because this was so bipartisan we had for for year for this year this is the reason I ran for office I'll tell you that is these two bills because this is what I cared about and certainly once I started knocking doors this is what people wanted to see and when one person literally one person can stop good legislation for thousands and thousands of women you

really have to question what the motivation is.

So unfortunately, I believe that women in Wisconsin became political collateral.

And when that happens, things go wrong.

So, with Gayle's Law as particularly, it's going to eliminate cost sharing for additional breast cancer screenings.

And you mentioned helping change things for thousands of women.

How big is that?

I mean, when we think about the cost of medicine and being able to even just do any sort of routine care, how big is that going to be for Wisconsin women and families in general?

Absolutely.

Okay, here's what we all know.

We talk about women's health all the time.

We talk about health and health is such another, you know, there's a lot of nuts to crack on this tree, right?

But yeah, the idea that every woman should get mammograms and when they are not correctly read or they are delayed or they have to do more, insurances are a barrier.

So when you can't get a follow-up,

like, oh, something doesn't look good here, and you can't get a follow-up.

This is Gail.

And so that's why this law was named after her, is she had that issue where something wasn't right, but it was delayed and delayed and delayed because of insurance and because her carriers wouldn't do more to find out what was wrong with her.

Really, not one person thinks that's the wrong way to go about it.

Let's do more.

Let's get those rocks out of the road.

Let's clear the path with insurance agencies.

Let's make it status quo.

that this is, if you've got a problem that we're going to fix it for a woman.

So this is really critical.

This is really critical.

And Gail and her family were in the audience yesterday.

Or not Gail, I'm so sorry, but Gail's daughter, her family, and it was so moving to see them because they have been fighting, as you know, Gail died just last year.

If we had passed this, this is what I mean when you asked about Robin Boss.

If we had passed this six years ago.

Gail would still be here and that's what I reflect on is how many women have we lost due to legislation?

State Representative Karen DeSanto is our guest.

She's the representative from the 40th district.

This kind of goes back to what you said about power.

The legislature in a big rush to get things done because your

you're going home for nine months, which I'm sure a lot of you are not happy about going home for nine months.

But what's going to be happening on the last day?

What are you trying to at least get something started before this extended vacation?

Boy boy, I can't even tell you how much I am so disappointed in this so as you know They've they've they've up to the calendar.

We really have it on our we agreed We voted on a calendar first day of session last year of we will at least do the work of the people through April And now we're in February and suddenly and this was thrust upon us like suddenly.

Oh, no, it's today the 17th.

What is today?

I don't

20th,

20th.

February 20th.

So February 20th would be the last day.

So it has been like a whirlwind of getting everything done.

So also just keeping the perspective is we've been at this already for one year.

In the last two days, we've seen 150 bills.

In the last year, maybe we saw the same amount.

I have to go back and count, but come on.

Right.

So things.

Things are broken.

Things do not work right.

This is not the will and I think Unfortunately, the people in our state just don't realize they just wait for us to make the announcement this fast or that fast But the understanding of how it works.

So you asked Brian, what are we doing?

We're already in plans that we've been in plans of what the next steps are We're listening to the people and what the top line issues are and they are affordability It is it is healthcare

It is schools, K-12 schools.

It is childcare, it is housing.

These are the things that we're already working on because we know our Republican majority party is gonna gavel out and they're gonna go on a 10 month vacation and unfortunately we're part of that without being in part.

If you had our votes right now, it would be unanimous that we stay in session for the rest of at least our calendar and do the work that the people sent us here to do.

They're choosing to leave and not lead.

So what do here's here's the question then for anybody who is listening today who's concerned about how their state government works and the fact that the Republicans have chose to gavel out What do Democrats do in the meantime?

You don't have the majority.

You can't basically voice your opinion and say no we're staying So what do Democrats do in the majority in these nine ten months when when everything is at a standstill in the state government?

Well, I'm new, so this is my first year, but what we are doing with our caucus is we are already talking about ways that we can really flood the state with letting us be present.

Here's what we also know.

One of the reasons I think that I'm even sitting in this seat is I talked to the people in the 40th district.

I knocked the doors.

I went to listening sessions.

We went to the schools.

We talked to groups.

We are really going to be present.

I want everyone to know that we are going to be present because the

The Democrats and I am so fortunate to be part of this group of really caring, smart, wicked, smart, and compassionate people.

With that compassion, don't get me wrong.

They are strong.

They are fighters.

And that is the very reason that these two laws passed.

Had we left it to the majority party, those two laws would absolutely not have worked.

We would have gabbled out and they would not have happened.

But our Democratic caucus worked together.

Paul, we have 54 of us now, or 45.

Sorry, I wish we were 54.

Man, us.

We have 45 of us.

And we worked collectively to push this through and we pressed the button of their power.

Because on the other side, there are people that want this too.

And we know that.

So when we looked at that one guy and they then put pressure on their leader to also make this happen.

So that's why it's kind of hopeful that maybe we can work on those relationships that we can all get done what the people want us to do.

We got a couple minutes left.

Let's go back to the whole thing about power again.

One of the big takeaways from the state of the state the other night was the governor is going to sign an executive order asking you guys to come back.

in the spring to talk about the potential constitutional amendment to prevent gerrymandering.

One, do you think Robin Voss is going to gavel you back in for a special session?

And two, what are your thoughts on what the governor said about getting these maps done?

Sure.

I don't know the answer to Robin Voff if he's going to gavel in.

I sure do hope so.

I mean, or yeah, I hope he just does the right thing.

The thing that I think about the new gerrymandering or thing is the collateral damage of those kinds of decisions.

How downstream what we see is the collapse of our K-12 education.

We don't see things like Gale's law and postpartum really basic understandable

bills and laws getting passed because of this effective gerrymandering.

So I'm hopeful that we can perhaps get something done.

I'm going to wait and see.

I really, you know, it's a wait and see for me, but I certainly hear the damage done from years.

This is decades now of this kind of work, and we need to do better for the people of Wisconsin.

We have about a minute left and you mentioned earlier some of the issues that this legislation session did not get to.

So what were some of those issues that got left on the table that you really felt like needed more conversation or you felt like should have come to a vote for the people of Wisconsin?

K-12 education in the state budget, they promised, we promised that we would at least do a special education reimbursement rate at 43 and 40%.

Right now it's at 38.

We need to.

make good on our promise.

I think that's a given.

PFAS, clean drinking water.

Knowles Nelson is a huge one.

And we have fought, this has been in these last two and a half days, have really been pushing these issues forward.

And that's how we got Gale's Law through, we pushed the issue.

So if we could fix our K-12 situation, it would be...

Amazing.

And our inner part, come on, clean water?

How can we not all be on that?

That should be easy.

That should

be an easy one.

It is 7.19 right now.

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Well, it's some sort of plan, Jamie.

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that?

I don't know.

It feels a little socialist, doesn't it?

From a government website, getting your medicines?

Well, it does until you...

drill down a little bit into Trump RX, not to be confused with Trump University, Trump stakes, Trump coin, Trump biblioteca, which he would never do if it's in another language.

All

the Trump things.

He's

got to quit putting his name on things that might not go

well,

but at any rate, TrumpRx is part of the administration's effort to bolster domestic drug manufacturing and also lower medication costs, which is something that I can always get behind if it's done in the proper way, right?

Yes.

So the president signed this executive order on May 12th, outlining a most favored nation policy for drug pricing.

That's where it's going to get...

It gets a little

confusing, it does.

The initial launch features medications from five manufacturers who made most favored nation pricing deals with the administration.

Now

those

manufacturers are AstraZeneca, Eli Lilly, EMD Sereno, Novo Nordisk, and Pfizer.

A November 18th survey found that

About half of US adults worry that they aren't going to be able to afford the necessary health care they need in just the coming year.

And 90% of people in that particular survey said they believe they're going to spend too much for the quality of care that they receive, which is true.

I 100% agree with that.

I

was just going to say, here's what it is.

It is a direct-to-consumer website.

for Americans to buy medications at discounted prices.

The website was first announced September 30th by Trump and Pfizer's CEO.

So that's what it is.

And they had to make these deals, as you mentioned, Jamie, to get most favored nation.

Now, when you read the list, those are most of the names that people would recognize.

My question is, what kind of deal was made?

and if you're able to cut a deal to drop your prices that much and still because because we know you're in the profit business that's business you want to make a profit I don't begrudge you that but if you can lower the prices for this website how much more are you making the rest of us pay right that or the insurance companies pay

There's for the same medic there's

always a catch-22 with this this particular administration now the Trump Rx is free to use You can use the website to search for medications that you need and it will redirect you to the manufacturer site for purchase You cannot use your insurance to buy prescriptions though at Trump Rx.

It is cash pay only at this particular time

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We ordered up the snow because it's time to talk about the Winter Olympics.

Have you been following the Winter Olympics?

What is your impression thus far?

855-75 Civic, that's 855-7524-842.

We've been talking about the Olympics a lot.

Big day yesterday, a lot on time.

today but let's start and you said it yesterday Parker maybe it was off the air go Badgers the women's hockey team yes an unbelievably exciting game I know Frank had to be watching this game this game was crazy the Canada comes a scoreless first period the ladies are playing tough Canada scores a short-handed goal within the first two minutes take a one-nothing lead which they carried all the way to the final

minute of regulation 204 remaining there was 204 remaining in the second third period and boom University of Wisconsin legend Hillary Knight in her fifth and final Olympics forced the overtime she tipped in another Badger Leila Edwards shot and

tied the game at one the place went crazy and then we go into overtime and oh my goodness extra free hockey bonus hockey is always fun and Megan Heller Keller backhands the shot in to give the U.S.

it's third Olympic gold beating their nemesis Canada Frank did you watch the game

I did not and oh my good

I shant

believe it or

not.

You're walking on air.

You never thought you could feel so free.

He I get it.

That's a that's a reference Parker.

In case you didn't get that.

I figured.

He did the greatest

American.

We did.

We did.

We

did.

We

did.

We're really busy over here.

Brian.

There's a lot

happening.

I'm watching hockey.

Frank.

We should

have been

watching

hockey.

So I get a text as Jamie and I are wrapping up this meeting for my wife and she goes hockey teams going in overtime.

So we wrap the call.

I'm like, Ooh, I can't wait to go watch it.

And I go out into the living room and I said, where's the hockey game?

To which my wife says, looks at me and goes, I'm watching figure skating.

because the gold medal figure skater is going on at the exact same

And that was Alyssa Lu

who was

pretty much flawless.

After taking a couple years off to find herself, she comes in.

Again, she finishes.

The place goes wild as she's skating off the ice.

She looks at the camera and goes, that's what I'm talking about.

I love it.

I

love a little

sassiness from the

figure

skater.

Because when you look at Olympic sports, right, this is always my take on it.

You watch the figure skaters and they're out there and they look so elegant and they're

gliding along the ice.

So when they get off the camera and they have that type of response like Alyssa Lou did, I always find that to be a little jarring only because that's not what you see from them on the ice, but they're

so real.

They're little princesses out on the ice.

So then she's

like, yeah.

Yes, but I loved that from her.

I did too.

It was and it's deserved.

She's the first figure skating gold medalist in 24 years for the United States.

So good for her.

She finished with 226 points.

So

Frank, how long did it take you to wrestle the TV remote for Mrs. Frank

to get the

hockey game?

You didn't not do that.

I lost this.

I went into the other room, fumbled with my phone to try and get the NBC app or peacock working.

And by the time I couldn't log in, the overtime goal was scored.

So I just watched the highlight.

And

the Olympics is

a pain in the ass about the video, right?

So you probably could barely even

find it online.

That's the pain in the ass.

Like good for NBC for having those rights.

I get it.

If Civic had the rights, I'd probably, we'd probably be the same way.

Right.

I get

it.

Make sure everybody bowed down to us, but it is such a pain in the ass.

And some of these apps just aren't user friendly.

No, they're, they're

really, really not track of all these different passwords and I just couldn't do it.

So today I'm putting my foot down.

We've got more hockey on today.

Canada is going to be playing Finland and Finland.

You cannot sleep on.

They did decently well in the four nations face off.

But when you run into Canada in the U S, it's hard to break through.

Right.

But, you know, with Canada almost losing to God, what was it?

Czechia.

The other day, they lose to Finland.

So anything can happen there.

I think the U S will handedly win later today.

You think they're going to take Slovakia?

No problem.

Yes.

It's the playoff semifinals.

I was more worried about Sweden and I told you a couple days ago don't sleep on Sweden because Sweden has a lot of great players.

This the Olympic hockey is fantastic and the fact that what were the seven or eight late.

All right Frank here's a question that I posited my wife and Jamie you can weigh in on this because it affects you in a roundabout way.

Frank when we're when we're cheering for men's hockey.

And you're you're shouting out to the players.

We call them boys, right?

Come on boys.

Let's go boys.

That's just a thing Yeah, I was hesitant to do that yesterday watching because Go girls

Can we say that?

I know I'm being too sensitive.

And it was just my wife and I, and she wouldn't care, as long as I, you know,

if

it was women, girls, ladies.

I think ladies.

I think ladies, I think ladies.

I think ladies is the way you go on that one.

If you're at home, and obviously you're not going to insult anybody.

Who cares, right?

You say whatever.

If you're watching out, you know, at dinner or a bar and you're really getting into it with everybody, then I think you go ladies

on that

particular one.

Listen, that's just, that was just a little etiquette question that I had because they were, I don't care what you call them.

Man, they were playing some hockey and some of those women are.

Unbelievably fast.

Yes.

Yes.

Crazy fast down the ice.

Yeah.

It's great.

So I always tell people like women's hockey, if you want to watch great, just skill.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you know, the NHL is great and men's hockey is great.

And a lot of people like the violence and the extra hitting and whatnot.

There's some brute force

though that goes

into it.

There's a lot of brute force and there's some players on the ice where their specialty is just to be out there and be in the goons, right?

You're a goon, right?

Women's hockey, it's all skill.

You can either handle the puck or you are not on the ice.

Yeah, because even when they get to the boards, there's not the impact.

There's

a lot of pushing and

shoving.

There's that still fighting for ice position and for the puck.

But there's not the impact that you see in men's hockey.

And I didn't miss it because there was, man, there's a lot to watch.

And the USA is goalkeeper.

Was almost unstoppable.

Yeah, she just did great the whole thing we had one more gold medal yesterday or Qualifying for the gold medal Eileen goo on the half pipe.

She she's competed in three events.

She's fallen three times

but she still somehow is in the gold medal event.

So we got her, and then one disappointment Jordan Stoles in speed skating, who had already won two gold medals in the 500 and the 1000 meters.

He got beat out by .77, 700s of a second.

So intensive.

And he's of course a

Wisconsin native, 21 years old.

And I thought it was interesting in that particular race because his competitor actually wasn't

went into that thinking that there was no way he could actually get the

goal

because he was going against Stoles.

He just thought, he's going to win it.

I'm just going to do whatever I have to out here.

And then he ended up taking the gold, why Stoles slipped a little bit in the race.

Chris from Waterloo, listening on WMDX, Frank, you and he have had words about hockey in the past.

He says, told you Frank is a casual fan.

Come on, man.

Yeah, you should have told the suits, Frank.

You're walking out.

I gotta go watch hockey, man.

Because I've been called

up by Chris in

Waterloo.

I'm bailing on this meeting.

You go as well as I do.

I do not have the upper hand.

Harper, you love a good Steinfeld reference.

When George Costanza says I had hand.

Yeah, I got no hand.

I got no

hand.

I know my place.

And when figure skating is on, I can't overtake that.

Oh, I met just in the meeting.

You should have

just left the meeting.

You should have your

wife.

Yeah, you should have.

I hear, you know what?

I'm not a casual of Chris this morning show.

I'm working day and night.

to make sure

yes

that's true for you Chris I do it for you

and if

I would

remember it was on I would have been like oh you should probably go do that because that's way more exciting

you

should have said something I gotta go check this out I would be remiss if I did not mention Michaela Schifrin who was considered the greatest slalom skier in history

Finally skiing like the greatest slalom skier in history.

She takes the gold in a huge huge blowout because she won her gold medal by 1.5 seconds which separated the silver medalist from the 12th place Finisher, so that's how much she won by she became the youngest and the oldest woman

to win Alpine gold because she won when she was 18.

Now she's 30.

And the only winter Olympian to win the same event with a 12 year gap.

So Michaela Schifrin coming through when it really mattered.

Today on tap is Frank said we've got men's hockey.

That's going to be exciting.

We've got oh how could we go an Olympic update without mentioning that there is a curling women's semifinal USA versus Switzerland today.

That's right.

Freestyle skating is all over a lot of

A lot of those events, FreeSkiles skiing, eh, hold on, I had a stroke.

FreeSkiles skiing qualifiers, yes.

By Athlon is today, Speedskating is today, a lot going on.

Frank, Chris and Waterloo already wondering, and I'm speaking for Chris and Waterloo, I'm channeling this.

What will your excuse be when we speak Monday about not watching the hockey games today?

No, I'm going to watch them today.

Yes.

I have no meetings.

No.

It's

Friday.

Jamie's not calling me into an emergency meeting, I hope.

No, we are

not.

Don't call me, my story's around.

We are not, we are not.

I'll be napping.

I need a nap.

I'm watching my programs.

The

programs.

That's right.

Oh, every day at noon, my mom was an All My Children fan.

So every

day at noon,

we were All My Children, and then it stayed on, but we didn't actually watch it for one life to live in

General

Hospital.

Wait a minute.

But All My Children.

Luke and Laura's wedding?

I think everybody watched Luke and Laura's wedding.

I know.

And

on all my... We were on the lounge in our door.

And

I think when

it came to the programs or your shows, I think the big one on All My Children was obviously the story of Jesse when he was killed off of

All My

Children, if you are a

fan of the show.

It was like 30 years ago.

I think we're good.

I think Nick and Nina was another big storyline on all my

children.

They had a big scene under a fur blanket in front of a fire.

And by the way, Luke from Luke and Laura just

passed away a couple of weeks ago.

Anthony Geary resting

power.

Yes.

Yes.

So

look at that.

Frank, this was not on your bingo card today.

We were going to go from men's Olympic hockey to soap

opera talk.

Olympic hockey to slalom to curling to soap operas.

It's all good

stuff, though.

It's all good stuff.

And honestly, do we want to sit and talk about politics all the time?

No.

No, no, the answer to that is absolutely not.

I know some of you- And the Olympics

are fun.

The

Olympics are

exciting.

No, I get some of our listeners would want us to talk about these things all the time,

but for

our own peace of mind.

When you saw the faces of the women's hockey team as they were being presented their medals, not so much when they got the stuffed animal mascots, but when they got their medals and sang the national anthem, it was moving.

How can you

not be excited about that stuff?

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to qualify for a pair of AJR tickets at the Wisconsin State Fair.

I'll get all of those words out yet.

I'm so excited

about the concert.

Trust me, it's going around.

It must be, we get the Friday flu where we're like, are you just going to talk?

We do.

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So get those texts rolling in here this morning if you want this last minute chance to qualify.

Very nice.

Yeah, it's gonna, obviously any show at the State Fair is always a fun show, but speaking of big shows, Brian.

Yeah, Jamie, we talked about baseball being a sure sign that spring is coming.

Once the Summerfest lineup is announced,

you know summer is just around the corner, even though I'm still a purist, I like the old line-up, the old scheduling better, not the three consecutive weekends, for a number of reasons, but one because it also affects a lot of other music venues and stuff in Milwaukee, but that's neither here nor there.

If you've seen the lineup, we want to hear from you.

What are your thoughts on this year's Summerfest lineup, especially the big headliners in the amphitheater and in the smaller amphitheater?

The

big names.

What do you think?

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We played a little Garth Brooks and by we I mean Parker.

Little Garth Brooks to open it up because Garth Brooks is opening the festival two nights.

at the American Family Insurance Amphitheater June 16th and 17th.

I was a big Garth Brooks fan back in the day, obviously.

I've only seen him once in concert.

He does put on...

a very energetic although well scripted concert.

Yes.

You can tell it's very by the numbers, but he gives you what you want to see Garth Brooks give you when you see him.

Right.

And I think that's the key.

And here's the other thing with Garth Brooks.

Even though he's gotten a little bit older, and he hasn't been releasing new music, he also doesn't do shows very often.

So I think that bodes well for a guy who obviously has a demand and

has his high energy of a show, as Garth Brooks absolutely

does,

because it doesn't take a toll when you're only doing these ever so often, right?

Like, that takes

a toll on a performer.

Yeah, he doesn't tour all the time, and it's really good.

So Garth is opening it up, and here are some of the other big headliners.

No, I shouldn't say that.

Here are some of the other headliners.

Ed Sheeran.

Sure.

Post Malone.

Jelly Roll, or half a Jelly Roll.

Muse.

Cody Johnson, Megan Maroney and Don Toliver.

All right.

I know the names of most of those people.

I don't... I can't say I'm like a fan of...

any of them.

I will say this.

I like Ed Sheeran as a performer.

I've seen him a couple of different times as a performer.

The Ed Sheeran who used to perform early on in his career and the Ed Sheeran who performs now, I do not find them to be the same type of performance.

In what ways?

I think it's a maturity thing, I think.

I think he's gotten older.

I think he's married now with kids.

And I just think it's a little bit different vibe.

And I do like Ed Sheeran.

Post Malone,

I liked Post Malone had like three songs before he went country and then he went country and now I'm kind of like, I don't know what you're supposed to be or who you're supposed to be.

The

beer salesman, Jamie.

Yes, this is true.

Muse wouldn't be horrible for me and jelly roll.

kudos to the weight loss dude.

Yeah, good for

him.

No, I made that joke, but you can say the same for me.

Right,

but I don't know if

I would go.

I personally would not go spend money to see Jelly Roll in concert, but I know a lot of people would.

So now at the BMO Pavilion, some of the headliners include Styx.

Welcome

back to 1982.

David Lee Roth, again, 1982.

The Roots,

you know

them from Fallon.

Tomlinson, also Russell Dickerson, and Bijou Banton are some of the performers over at the BMO.

Now, is there anybody there that you would go see as far as?

I'd go see Sticks.

OK.

I'd probably, I would see David Lee Roth just to laugh, because I know it would be.

This is because I, usually when I go to Summerfest, I go to the BMO Pavilion because they have bands that I identify with.

Right.

You know, usually the Bodines are there.

They've got, you know, it's, they had REO there, I think, last year.

So it's those kind of bands.

I would go to laugh at David Lee Roth.

Uh, just like last year I saw, I forget who, but the lover boy was opening for them.

And remember a lover boy, Jamie with the red leather.

Oh, Mike Reno couldn't even wear up those red leather pants around his arm at this point.

He walked out on stage and I let out an audible guffaw.

It was just like, ah.

And then I went back and I enjoyed the music.

Has he sized up,

though?

That's the question.

Has he sized

up or has he chosen to squeeze in?

He's not even trying.

He doesn't even.

Those red leather pants exist now only in his memory.

If David Lee Roth started with his version of California Girls and then did Hot for Teacher, I'd be done.

I'd be like, all right, I've seen enough.

Have a good day.

Yeah, if he throws in some Van Halen stuff, that to me would be fantastic.

Can he

though?

Legally?

I don't

really

care.

I don't know they do they do a lot of Hagar does a ton of yeah,

that's true

That's true

now some of the other notable performers across the other stage this year for summer fest include of course these are gonna be your your smaller bands of Passion Pit third-eye blind Marcus King group love Sean Paul mega death Flo Rida Flo Rida is now like on commission to like a small stage and then DJ Jazzy Jeff who I didn't know could perform without Will

Smith.

I want to see DJ Jazzy

just in those steel wheels.

That is going to be an unbelievable night of entertainment.

Wasn't

he only good with Will Smith, though, doing like the lyrics and doing like

that?

No, I think he's done.

I think he's done a lot of musical stuff for other TV shows.

Anyway, it's June 16th through July 4th, three consecutive weekends.

You know where it's at.

That's summer fest.

You can check out all the details on the website.

And of course, get

tickets if you want to go.

A week is done.

Another big, big announcement on Monday.

Yes, big stuff.

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