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huh?
Yeah, because we talk about tariffs all the time.
We hear who pays them, who's supposed to pay them, who doesn't pay them.
And then we also pay attention when tariffs hit close to home.
New piece in the journal Sentinel says that Harley Davidson, your favorite motorcycle company,
paid an unbelievable amount of tariffs in 2025.
Joining us now is the reporter who put that story to paper, Ricardo Torres.
He is a reporter with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
He covers business, politics, breaking news.
Every once in a while, a sports story thrown in there because he's a well-rounded individual.
You can read all his work at jsonline.com.
Ricardo, good to have you here.
Thanks very much for being here this morning.
So let's not, to use a journalistic term, let's not bury the lead.
Despite the administration telling us that other countries pay for tariffs, how much did Harley Davidson have to pay in tariffs in 2025?
Harley Davidson paid $67 million in tariffs all of 2025, which...
Believe it or not, is lower than what the company was expecting to pay back in May.
The company thought at that time that they might have to pay as high as $175 million.
Now, that was shortly after Trump announced tariffs on dozens of countries.
And so what the company, the word the company uses is volatile.
It was a very volatile year.
So overall,
They ended up paying less than what they thought they would pay about a year ago, but still $67 million.
Yeah, there was a 50% tariff on steel and aluminum, which cost Harley-Davidson about $31 million.
In terms of which country,
Harley-Davidson had to pay tariffs too, or which country that they did business with that impacted them the most.
Canada was one of the highest with 35%, which cost the company $8 million.
And then there were tariffs on China, Mexico, India, Thailand, and the European Union, which cost the company $17 million.
Let's go back to what you said before.
What made the company believe back in May that they were going to have to pay so much more?
Now, $67 million is nothing to sneeze at, but $175 is crazy.
Was it just market prices?
You mentioned volatility.
What gave them that number?
So this was just their projections at the time.
They weren't really sure how much they were going to pay, what tariffs were going to stick.
There were a lot of threats of tariffs last year that ended up not being as high as what the president originally.
said that he wanted to put on countries and there were other times when it was just slightly lower or not at all.
There was a 90 day pause on tariffs for China, which helped save the company millions of dollars.
So this was just a company that was doing what a lot of companies were doing last year, which was just kind of guessing what these impacts would be and
At the end of the year, yes, 67 million dollars is still 67 million dollars and Harley-Davidson needs every dollar it could get.
He is a journalist over at Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, jsonline.com.
If you want to check out his work, he covers business politics and breaking news.
kind of look ahead a little bit.
Harley says that they expect tariffs in 2026 could reach, again, probably broad based on what we know or what projections are, but $75 to $105 million.
So why do they think that costs will rise over the next year based off of projections from last year into this coming year?
I think that's just a conservative estimate on the company's part.
They're trying to prepare as best as they can for whatever the administration throws at them in terms of tariffs.
And so they're doing what a lot of companies are doing, which is trying to bake in some sort of expectations of what could happen in the future because 75 and $105 million is a really big difference.
And so this is something that the company is just trying to manage along with other companies.
So Ricardo, I'm probably like a lot of people.
I hear Harley and I think 100% American.
And then we learn all the things that have to be imported.
Does Harley have any plans to do more US sourcing?
Are they trying to find things that would cut down that $67 million that they're having to pay in tariffs?
Well, Harley says three of their four biggest manufacturing centers are based in the United States and their core US product is manufactured in the United States.
So they emphasize to investors and to analysts that they do a lot of their product.
They make a lot of it here at home.
But that being said, there are components that they import from places like China and other countries overseas.
So they're trying to mitigate
that as much as they can, and they're trying to be in contact with the administration as much as they can.
They even said on their presentation that they're grateful for the US administration and Congress for continuing to listen to Harley Davidson as these discussions go on.
At this point they haven't been so specific as to what changes they're going to make.
Again, they make a lot of their products on the United States and so I would imagine that they would probably
if they wanted to move some of their supply chain home or to countries where there is more favorable tariff rates.
But again, this is still very volatile situation and they're trying to manage it as best they can.
Now, for people who ride Harleys, who were in the market for Harleys, we know if they're paying $67 million more in tariffs, it would...
makes sense that that cost will be passed down to the consumer.
Has there been any talk of that?
How is how is the numbers?
How are the numbers that you reported on affecting consumers?
So Harley Davidson wasn't specific as to how they're paying for these tariffs.
And so they could theoretically pass it on to the customer or they could eat the cost themselves after their
third quarter results, if you want to move back about six months or so, they were they were a quarter to profit of $377 million.
And that was in due large part to them selling their financial division, a deal that was about $5 billion.
So they had some cash to play with and to
To not put that burden on the customers because they already for customers They already have kind of an expensive bike if you want to get a new one, which is a problem that Harley-Davidson is trying to Try to reduce they they know that they have issues with affordability and they're planning later on this year to introduce a bike that is about $6,000 or less to try to get consumers younger consumers that
don't have the expendable income for 15, 20, $25,000 bike, maybe we could put something together a little bit.
They wouldn't say cheaper, they would say not as expensive, but.
Cheaper
is how you and I
talk, so we'll go with cheaper.
All companies avoid the C word.
Of course.
Tom from Hartford chiming in on WMDX texting saying, are they hoping for higher sales?
Is that anything that you got out of your reporting?
Are they hoping with maybe the $6,000 price point to maybe have more sales or even sell some of their more luxury bikes to those who can actually afford some of their increased prices potentially?
Absolutely.
They would love more sales.
Every company would.
At the end of the fourth quarter last year, their sales in North America rose 5%, which is a good direction.
And even for its electric motorcycle division, Limewire, which the company spun off into a separate company, those sales for those motorcycles went up 9%.
Now, when you talk about percentages, you know,
you can kind of play with the numbers differently depending on what kind of results you want to portray to people, but they do have some positive bright spots out there, some optimism.
Other than the fact that they're not sure what their tariff costs will be in 2026, did they lay out any other expectations for the upcoming year, or are they in a wait and see holding pattern?
So they have a big strategic plan coming up in May, which they weren't very specific about.
So I'm anticipating them talking about lowering prices and the less expensive bikes.
As I mentioned before, they talked on the call about customization, which I thought was interesting that they want to really lean into the individuality of riders.
They're new CEO, already stars.
He mentioned this anecdote in which he went to a hog meeting in Milan and all these riders were talking to him about their bikes.
And it was really part of their identity.
And so he wants to lean into that more.
But Harley Davidson already offers customization for some of its components.
So I'm not exactly 100% sure what exactly is changing there.
And so that's something that
i'm looking into uh for a future story and hopefully i could get some more answers and report back to you guys yeah that would be great yeah
what's next on uh what are you covering today when you go in what's
the
story
so like i said still following up on harley davidson um there's been some changes with uh epa and admissions um at the at the
Trump administration that we're wondering how does that impact local companies?
And you know, I always got to keep myself flexible just in case something breaks Well,
it's good to talk to you Ricardo Torres is a journalist for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel you can read all his work at jsonline.com Ricardo always a pleasure good to talk to you and for those who don't know
Ricardo and I go way back.
He was actually one of my very first producers in another lifetime.
But congratulations on everything.
Great work on this Harley-Davidson story, and we will talk to you again soon.
Thank you.
And I'm Brian Noonan.
Oh, ICE is not only affecting citizens, now it's affecting Girl Scouts
citizens.
cookies.
Yeah,
cookies are in danger.
We have to talk about it and we'll do that next on the Civic Media Network.
know what day
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Oh, once again, you're you're mood lighting in the studio.
in.
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Sometime I know you we're glad you're listening on your terrestrial stations or on the app.
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If you ever get a chance at about this time every morning to tune into the YouTube stream and see
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It's quite startling.
Well, I
No, it's not.
I mean, startling in a good way.
know.
You've got
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I would pull the blinds, except it reflects off of the glass building right across the road from us, then that directly reflects back into the studio.
Actually, and it's just low enough that it actually wouldn't help, and I'd have to be in complete darkness.
We'll work on it though.
I'm already in complete darkness, so it's fine.
I was gonna say, well, you
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I am seeing spots, though.
It's really hard to read anything that I have written down right now, but it's good.
Parker, aren't you supposed to just go in there and block the sun from Jamie's
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I suppose I am.
I could just go with my hand there.
Here, I'll just do this.
Here we go.
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There's our
street cam if you're wondering what we're dealing with here.
And if you need a little treat, maybe this is the time of year you would love a Girl Scout cook and you've been thinking, well, Brian, yeah, that's all well and good.
I'd love me some thin mince or tag-alongs, but no young ladies have knocked on my door.
Yeah, that's probably not going to happen.
It's been happening for a while where the Girl Scouts have been kind of shying away from the door-to-door things, because let's be honest, there's a lot of creeps behind a lot of doors.
There's a lot of awful people out there.
There's a lot of awful people, but...
This year it's a little bit different because the Girl Scouts River Valley's cookie program is going digital.
That includes 48 counties here in Minnesota and Wisconsin plus Osceola County in Iowa and they're doing it because ice.
Ice is scaring off some of the Girl Scouts and their families and forcing them to go online because they don't want to be out selling cookies.
Well, I'll let you decide if that's sad or
Through March 29th, customers can buy cookies using the Girl Scouts digital cookie platform where individual scouts create these online storefronts and then share their links through social media, text, and email.
Some of the booths and those in-person sales will still happen, but there's going to be fewer than usual.
Who doesn't love to go into a grocery store and come out and hand some cute little Girl Scouts money and take your favorite Girl Scout cookie home?
Mine would be a Thin Mint.
But, you know, I digress.
Now, leaders say that the cookie-
The program remains the world's largest girl-led entrepreneurship program.
It teaches skills like goal setting and money management and also business ethics.
This year.
Some of
these girls are tough business people.
They're like seven and they're haggling or upselling.
It's like, all right, easy sash
it.
I'll buy another box.
I love it.
I
And outside of COVID, obviously, we weren't doing in-person sales or going door to door.
And everything was already shut down.
and things were moving online.
The last time Girl Scouts had to stop traditional door-to-door cookie sales was during World War II.
Back then there was rationing
of sugar,
obviously it
made baking cookies nearly impossible, so the Girl Scouts pivoted to selling calendars and even collecting scrap metal to raise money until cookie sales returned after the war.
My point to all of this is you have to go back to World War II to the Girl Scouts collecting scrap metal to understand, or a global pandemic,
to understand that the fact that they can't sell cookies in a traditional manner is just sad.
It's sad.
And what do two of those have in common?
Nazis.
But I digress.
It's hard.
It's a hard thing because I didn't have a problem when when Molly was a Girl Scout and they started saying well try to do it a different way So you're not going door-to-door.
She still did a lot of door-to-door My wife would go with her and they'd go you know on a Saturday morning and they'd hit the neighborhood or right after work But that part it's the reason behind it if you choose not to walk with your daughter door-to-door That's one thing, but if you're afraid to leave your house
because people are getting snatched off the street.
Literally.
Right.
So that's where the problem comes in.
So listen, I'm always a fan of supporting Girl Scout.
However you get the cookies.
You know,
we bought ours this year outside of a Trader Joe's.
And that girl, man, oh man, she upsold my wife like nobody's business.
And I'm Brian Noon.
When we come back, we'll talk about gerrymandering in Wisconsin and what can be done.
You're
And good morning.
I'm Brian Noonan.
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One of the big pieces of news that came out of Tuesday night's state of the state address by Governor Evers was that he was going to call an executive or sign an executive order calling for the legislature
into special session later in the spring to hopefully pass a constitutional amendment that bans partisan gerrymandering in Wisconsin.
This has been an ongoing talk not only in Wisconsin but across the country.
We're joined now by Yusele Flores.
She is the Fair Maps Coalition Director.
You can go to fairmapsmi.com to get all the information on the coalition.
Yusele, thanks for being here.
We appreciate it.
Thanks.
I'm so excited to be here.
So, what does, tell us a little bit about Fair Maps Coalition, what you guys do, and how you responded when you heard the governors call the other night for a special session to hopefully ban gerrymandering in Wisconsin.
Yeah, well, I mean, we were really excited, but we were also sort of anxious to know what that looks like because we too don't know what that process will look like given that constitutional amendments in Wisconsin because we don't have a ballot initiative process.
They have to pass joint resolution in the legislature in two consecutive sessions.
So then it's like, okay, you're going to call a special session for this, but then
We still have to put that on the ballot and then voters will then still have to decide.
And if we don't have concrete legislation to introduce an independent redistricting commission, we can see what is happening in Virginia where the legislature is attempting to reverse.
something like an independent redistricting commission there.
So we want to make sure that the process that we work towards will ban gerrymandering in Wisconsin forever, and it isn't just a band-aid on a huge, huge wound.
Yeah, well, you know, this is gerrymandering and in layman's terms, it's just the practice of legislative officials when they are in office and then when they have a majority or They redraw electoral district boundaries to give their one singular political party An unfair advantage over the other and it involves manipulating maps in ways to either pack which would a post which would
put opposing voters into fewer districts or crack them across many, making sure that the controlling party wins more seats.
So let's go back over the last, say, 10 to 15 years.
How has that looked in Wisconsin?
Because we know some new maps went into effect two years ago.
But what has led us up to this point?
Yeah, well...
You know, ironically, since the 80s, since 81, 91 and 2001, partisan bickering has resulted in Wisconsin legislative district maps to be drawn by federal judges.
And then in 2009, Democrats controlled the governor's office in both chambers.
They had a trifecta.
And despite this, they didn't pass any sort of nonpartisan redistricting laws.
And they thought that they were going to keep winning and that they would have likely drawn maps favoring their party.
know that wasn't the case.
We know that that that didn't happen and it created more you know it created partisanship.
It created what we call is that gerrymandering is a bipartisan disease even though more voters across between 2010 and 2020
statewide chose democrats in the state assembly and in the senate the democrats actually lost seats even though they won four of five statewide races and this is due to gerrymandering
One of my favorite fun facts is that in gerrymandering is a word created by in the US.
It's an American word, Elbridge Gary 1810.
And so if you translate this and I give a presentation on fair maps and redistricting in Spanish all the time, I have to say that gerrymandering means manipulating the election.
Yeah.
We're joined by Yuseli Flores.
She is the Fair Maps Coalition Organizing Director, FairMapsWI.com.
Now, Yuseli, I think it's interesting because as we stated, Governor Evers' calling for the special session was a little unexpected, I think, on Tuesday night.
He has been an advocate of Fair Maps, but he's not going to be in office during the next redistricting process.
So does that create a little bit more urgency for something to be done and more permanent?
maps be in place?
Most definitely.
Our goal, because the Fair Maps Coalition drafted a proposal for an independent redistricting bill, we are currently looking for bipartisan support in Wisconsin amongst candidates and those running for office, including those already in office, to push for the passage of an IRC or independent redistricting commission in January by the new state legislature.
and our goal is then to to strive towards the constitutional amendment due to the fact that it needs to pass in two consecutive legislative sessions and for that to happen the governor's signature isn't required.
So we had a timeline and it's kind of like one of those bumps in the matrix of the timeline where like all right let's we have to get more people on this we need to tell more people about gerrymandering we need to tell more people about our process to get equal buy-in now that this is sort of
in the eyes of a lot of folks, right?
He named it, and now we have to just remind folks that this is a long process.
Now, Yussele, the Fair Maps Coalition has a three-phase plan that wants to ensure fair redistricting, but you want to get it done before the 2030 census.
First of all, what's the three-phase plan, and why is that date so important
to
try to get everything done before then?
So our first phase was to do an educational campaign.
Last year we were in 34 different cities talking about redistricting and what an IRC would look like.
We plan to be in 60 this year.
The second step would be to pass legislation through the Senate and Assembly and then have it signed by the governor, which would our goal would hopefully be in January of 2027 and then pass the constitutional amendment before.
the 2030 census so by the redistricting cycle we would have something where Wisconsinites feel like although they agree on many things they're not getting the things that they agree on and so finally they'll have some representation although we currently have fairer maps they're still not enough for what Wisconsinites actually want.
It's almost like representatives are trying to pick their constituents versus constituents picking their representatives, right?
Based off of your three-phase plan, what does success look like for the Fair Maps Coalition just within the next year?
What would be the first thing that needs to be tackled before probably the end of 2026?
Yeah,
if we could...
get candidates that are on the ballot to say that they support redistricting, an independent redistricting commission, if we can host more town halls, especially as we see new candidates across all aisles, right?
I just said it earlier, gerrymandering is a bipartisan disease, so we're going to need all parties to play together and to really strive for a Wisconsin that really represents us and for a Wisconsin model when it comes for independent redistricting legislation.
It sounds like a perfect plan, which unfortunately to me means there's no chance that it could work, because as what progress
Do you think will or can come?
I mean, we saw that we saw that the Supreme Court had to draw the maps the last time.
We can't get the two parties to agree because they want to hold on to power.
Like you said, that's what it's all about.
So as much as I I think this is 100% needed and should have been done a long time ago.
I've been around long enough to see that we can't get the people to disagree how
How do you think this can actually come about?
I You know, especially as we're seeing shifts in political ideology across the nation Whether you know, whatever people's ideology is in especially in in Wisconsin that traditionally has been purple I think Republicans know that they might need an independent redistricting commission
to have representation over the next 10 years.
Because that cultural shift, my favorite fun fact is that every 30 seconds, a Latino in the US turns 18, like they are voting with their parents in mind.
They are voting with the separation of families in mind.
So that cultural shift, the ideological shift, the political shift is going to have to force some people to play across the aisle in order to get some
constituent's representation in the districts that they want to serve, regardless of whatever political party they are.
And if they don't have that in the next, you know, three years before 2030, there will be a huge shift.
She is the Fair Maps Coalition Organizing Director.
If you want to check out some of their work, fairmapswi.com.
Now, as we talk about the Independent Redistricting Commission, and we talk about fair maps and redrawing,
What would banning all of this partisan gerrymandering, how would it change elections and how would it representation in this state change if we just, we just didn't have gerrymandering in a perfect world?
Let's pretend that wasn't a thing.
What would it look like?
What would it look like in Wisconsin, you Selly?
Well, you know, like people in Wisconsin, regardless of what political party they support, they agree on what they want from their government.
So this is from a Marquette poll.
But 87% of folks want universal background checks for gun purchases in Wisconsin.
77 want citizen led ballot initiatives, which we don't have.
76% want increased renewable energy efforts.
72 want an action to regulate carbon pollution and so on and so on.
And the only way we can fix this for good is to take the map drawing process
us away from politicians and give it to an IRC to make these voting maps fair for everyone.
Is another justification for everything you said, which makes perfect sense, the fact that the fairer maps that went into effect two years ago, they seem to be working.
Maybe not to one or two candidates, you know, it didn't work out for them, but overall it's working.
So is that further
a good step toward what the ultimate goal is.
Yeah, that further proves our theory that Wisconsin is very purple and that although they are fairer, we still have work to do.
The model was also sort of a least change approach model or that was sort of some of the agreements when governor's maps were selected and least change approach that just means that
Most of the most of the gerrymandered maps from 2010 were almost kept because those were just part of the, you know, part of the wrinkles in the work.
But in 2024, we saw that by using fairer maps in February, they most accurately represented Wisconsin's partisan balance.
It also affects independent voters.
So for anybody listening this morning who is just like, I'm tired of talking about maps.
I want our elections to be fair.
What can they do?
What sort of initiatives are there out there for them?
And how can they be involved in moving this forward, you tell me?
We have about a minute left.
All right, well, you can call your legislator and tell them you heard a very spicy Latina on civic media talking about redistricting.
You can write a letter to the editor that you support in independent redistricting, and that Jeremy Endring is a bipartisan disease.
You can follow us on social media at FairMaps, Wisconsin FairMaps Coalition.
You can go to fairmapswee.com and sign our newsletter, and many, many other things.
Just stay involved.
A lot of things that we can all do to make sure that this disease is someday cured.
Yusele, thank you so much.
Yusele Flores is the Fair Maps Coalition Organizing Director.
FairMapsWe.com is the website.
Yusele, have a great rest of your day.
Thanks for being here.
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I can't remember all the lyrics from my days of being a Donnie Osmond fan back in the
Oh man, you know, I had, I actually had some Osmond Brothers records.
Yes.
Crazy horses when they tried to go metal.
And it was to a, if you ever, here's a prize, here's your homework.
Go and search out crazy horses by the Osmond Brothers.
And for some reason it still sticks in my head because there's this.
Yes.
Sounds like a weird slide whistle that got went wrong.
Yeah, it was it was insanity.
I'm not familiar.
Whatever I just heard that band is not capable of rock.
Surely not.
Well, that's Donnie is a that's Donnie is a solo.
Yes.
Donnie is a solo
was
a
teen heartthrob.
Much different
cover of every Jamie can probably attest to this the cover of every teen magazine teen beat tiger beat.
yeah.
All of them.
Donnie Osmond was
little bit country, a little bit
Oh,
about?
When he tried to rock hard.
I think that's actually what he fought Danny Buttaducci.
That was worlds colliding.
Donnie Osmond was...
Soldier of
right.
That's all right.
He was to white top 40 music as Michael Jackson was to R&B and soul music.
He was the youngest in the band, in the brother band until they brought Jimmy Osborne
was, come on.
why don't we talk about Donnie Osborne?
Well, because a fan
Are you really a fan if you sue your favorite artist?
No.
They're suing, they filed a lawsuit against Donnie Osmond for an injury, please.
An injury they received during Donnie's Las Vegas residency at Harris Showroom.
How could they even identify that it was in fact Donnie Osmond?
He
No.
don't want to say it's plastic surgery.
Downey's man bun is actually human flesh on
It might be.
It might be.
But this particular fan, her name is Joanne Jokolowski, and she claims that she was hit in the back of the head by a light-up ball that was taught
into the crowd during a February 2024 performance.
Now these glowing balls are...
are part of a regular audience.
It's
Are part of an audience interaction segment in this particular show.
According to this lawsuit, the impact caused a retinal detachment that required surgery.
And Joanne says that she's still dealing with ongoing vision problems along with head and neck injuries.
Now I have several questions.
My first question is, how hard were people throwing this ball off the stage?
What size?
was it and and why was it just
look like the lit balls are they
around at this concert I I assumed it was like a light up beach ball which you see light
something.
Donnie Osmond, first of all, is 107 years old.
He's not gonna be throwing out concrete medicine balls.
He's not doing, they're not doing kettle ball lifts during
Donnie Osmond concert because of
can't do any of that.
He'd look like one of those bloodhounds.
Everything
would just droop.
It would be bad.
Plus, how hard, like you said, Jamie, how hard
head?
head.
to detach your retina.
no way I don't care if I didn't even take the beach ball out of the package
took a case of beach balls and hit you in the back of the head
lawsuit names Donnie Osmond personally, his concert company and Hera's Las Vegas as defendants, and Joanne is now seeking more than $15,000 in damages.
Now, obviously Donnie has not publicly commented on this case and the casino has not yet issued a statement either.
In case you're wondering and in case you're upset with us right now for making fun of Donnie Osmond and all of his cosmetic procedures, he does have a Las Vegas residency that is still scheduled to
continue through late this year.
So, you know, he's still performing and Marie once in a while pops up on stage with him.
They do their one duet and they move on.
When any time I see Donnie Osmond in an interview or something, he seems like a good guy.
You know, he's got the whole, the Mormon background
they had this whole public image as a family and it all, you know, you didn't hear a lot of scandals coming out of the Osmond family.
No.
Marie had a few marriages, but I had a huge crush on Marie.
She was gorgeous.
she, now she doesn't look
shouldn't judge a woman.
maxing.
looks mogging.
What am I doing, Parker?
I'm doing one of the.
I'm doing something.
Parker's not even gonna respond.
He's just gonna stay out of it.
He's gonna let you keep talking.
It's fine.
I didn't expect a maxing and a mocking.
Of
course
you
didn't.
That's what makes me so
weird.
That's something.
Would you, would you go to, now I'm thinking about like, if we were in Vegas, my wife and I, I think she might want to go see Donnie Osmond in his residency.
want to see one bad apple?
You don't want to hear that.
One bad apple
Puppy love.
One bad apple.
Jamie, this is right up your alley.
You need to do
into Osmond Productions.
There we go.
Get their budget.
See what kind of balls were bought
We'll talk to you again.
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