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Our old man, it's the dominoes are starting to fall in regarding the Epstein files.
You know, there were 3 million more documents released a couple of weeks ago, still more that have not been released.
But why quibble over the facts or over the law or over deadlines?
The problem now is that other countries are really starting to follow up on this and make some moves to hold people responsible whereas here in the U.S.
we're doing our best to just cover up and deflect and again just protect people who really deserve no protection but now things are happening across we've got we have some new
People that are resigning that whose careers are being impacted.
Yeah, and Jamie the biggest one today.
This was breaking overnight.
Yes across the pond in the UK
What I am surprised by is the are the charges?
Yes, he so we're talking about former Prince Andrew of Prince now just Andrew Mount Button Windsor.
He was arrested over
night.
Yes, it's on suspicion of misconduct in public office because remember his role or anything that took place With his name in it in the Epstein files is when he was actually still titled Prince Andrew, right?
So he was arrested by the Tames Valley police this morning At least six unmarked police cars arrived at Wood Farm.
What on what is Andrews?
This is I mean, what a bad way to spend your birthday.
It's a
Happy birthday,
a warrant.
And
in this case, if any of the allegations and the Epstein files are true, it is probably best that that is where Prince Andrew might be.
And of course, this is all through the investigation by the Tames Valley police over whether he shared confidential information with the late Jeffrey Epstein.
Andrew has consistently denied all claims
made against him in relation to Epstein, but I guess if the local police have even started investigating and have found the ties and your name shows up that many times in a file, then you're probably going to have to answer some questions, right?
Yeah, and again, this is about sharing information.
This is not about, at this point, he was arrested because of...
alleged sharing of confidential information.
So that's the part that surprised me.
We'll see if there if more things come out or if or if these charges even hold water, we don't know yet.
But you know, the prince has said that or the king rather, he's the king now.
Yes, Charles has said that he you know, he stripped the title and he is they are all about
getting to the bottom of this.
It's interesting to me how quickly the royal family acted once there was greater suspicion, which also tells me that there might be some truth in this, right?
Because they were very quick.
All of a sudden, Prince Andrew, we don't see him.
He doesn't come out of his room.
We're going to take away his title.
We're going to move him over into the property far away from the rest of us.
And that is just where he is going to dwell.
And so it kind of, you know, if
If I'm a betting person, it tells me that there's maybe a little meat on the bone just based on how they reacted and public perception, of course.
Nobody
wants to.
I think the the royals have their own challenges and they don't need one more thing piled on top from some ancillary family member.
So at that point it's just cut, go.
put them out of here.
We don't we don't need this hassle in our life.
We will cooperate with all the investigations.
We will make sure that it comes to life.
But we don't want any anything.
Just just casting a light on us.
or however many.
There's no arrest happening over here.
right now.
No, it's not looking great for so many people.
And the list, the people that we're going to talk about to some degree this morning, let's be clear, these are just allegations, but this is just a small portion of the people around the globe being affected by these files.
Peter Adia, who is a physician and longevity expert, stepped down from his advisory roles after emails showed friendly and crude correspondence with Epstein.
He has apologized and denied any wrongdoing.
Well, if there's no wrongdoing.
why are we apologizing?
Your name was in the files.
Just, I mean, you know, maybe I'm parsing my words too much.
Lawrence Summers, who was the former US Treasury Secretary and Harvard President, he had to step back from public roles after there were revelations of a long relationship with not only Jeffrey Epstein, but Ghislaine Maxwell.
The former British ambassador to the US, Peter Mandelson, has resigned from the Labor Party and House of Lords in the middle of all of these investigations.
Let me be clear, it's also affecting some of the Democrats' names.
You know, you might recognize George J. Mitchell, who is a former senator.
He's resigned from all honorary roles after being mentioned hundreds of times in the files.
And Kathy Rumler, who was a Goldman Sachs chief legal officer and a former Obama White House counsel has announced she's going to step down from her role.
And then there's this name, Casey Wasserman, and you might have heard it.
He's selling
his talent.
Yeah, he's
Yeah this is not and that's that always takes the bullets out of some of these Republican protectors and say well would you want them released if there's Democrats in there yeah
because 90 I'm gonna guess 95% of us really cannot stomach the thought of what is being alleged happened or what is documented that happened on that island and if you're part of it
Yeah, I don't care who you are.
This isn't partisan.
You gotta go.
No, none of this is partisan.
It shouldn't be.
It shouldn't be.
It shouldn't be.
Yeah.
This cut and dry illegal matter.
Right.
But there is no cut and dry with this administration, especially when the head of the administration, and I don't have to say allegedly, he is mentioned in these files.
Thousands of times.
Thousands of times.
know,
You know, again, not any of this has been proven, but even if a small portion of it turns out to be true, this would be one of the most...
disturbing and one of the largest crime networks of many of our lifetimes.
I mean, this is peanuts in compared to what we've seen on many, many levels on in other political realms.
And this isn't going to be just let's be clear as well.
This isn't just politicians.
We are also talking some
of your favorite
leaders.
is everybody.
There's criminal investigations happening right now in the NFL.
They're reviewing communication.
between New York Giants owner Steve Tisch and Epstein.
And one of the biggest scandals right now tied into the Epstein files is Les Wegster.
Now if you were a young girl, if you're a woman who grew up in the 90s.
You're going to know all of his brands because he made his billions on the limited Victoria's Secret, Pink, Bath & Body Works and Amber Cromby and Fitch.
He has told Congress, he's mentioned so often and so closely to Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell that he had to write this letter to Congress telling them that he had no knowledge of the crimes.
He says he was conned and he gave Epstein power of attorney and major financial control in the past.
But I don't know him.
con
yeah con really I don't know listen people get conned that part I you know there's a lot of Ponzi out there a lot of schemes that are happening people get conned but
on this this is
powerful people.
And Epstein may have been a con, a really good con artist.
And he had Ghislaine with him.
And, you know, there's a lot here, but the problem is we're not investigating it.
We could get to the bottom of this.
The Justice Department could find out, are some of these people, were they targets of Epstein, as opposed to just friends or...
People who were going along with what was the black
male happening in the Epstein universe was was vast as well We have a text coming in this morning from we don't have a name attached to this one So thank you if you're a newer texture they say one goat can protect a herd or group of monkeys from predators
get you think of this morning, doesn't it?
Who
is the goat?
Would it be Pam Bondi?
Is she the
know.
Caroline Leavitt, we know, is a goat or a monkey.
now.
Very
good at her job, I
She is, and she says it with a smile to the point where you think that she's not slicing you all at the same time, which is even scarier.
No, last week,
Here on this program, as we mentioned a little bit about the early start of the fallout from the Epstein files, we had kind of ruminated on the fact that we were probably going to see more
action from Europe right away because it seems like they were a little bit more on top of this, taking some of these allegations a little bit more seriously.
And that's starting to hold true.
Obviously, we talked about the arrest of Andrew, former Prince this morning.
Now, France has also launched major new investigations into human trafficking and some of these financial crimes that have been connected to Epstein.
What they're showing is that some of these newly released files, plus complaints from child protection groups, and they are really looking right now at human trafficking and some of the financial crimes, including the money laundering, the corruption, and the tax fraud that is also alleged in the files right now.
I think that's where they're going to end up getting more people with these financial crimes.
Of course.
And it goes all the way back to Al Capone.
Yes.
because because unfortunately people don't believe victims
and
so it's going to be much easier to prove financial crimes because numbers are numbers and the math sometimes it ain't math and no it's not so that I that's where that's where the
the convictions will come, I believe.
And I think it's important to remember, if you want to watch news happening overseas, that France is a really key location in all of this because Epstein owned luxury apartments in Paris and frequently visited the country.
Now, there was a previous French investigation that actually closed three years ago after a key associate of Epstein died in prison.
It's funny how we've seen that story
play out before.
Are there quotes around died again?
No, no, no, no.
They call it a Titanic.
They call it Titanic work.
And it's also interesting because we found out yesterday that the UN Human Rights Council panel has suggested that all of these files point to this possible global criminal enterprise, duh, tied to Epstein's network and experts at the UN.
say that some of these crimes could meet the threshold for crimes against humanity, describing it as systematic abuse and exploitation of women and girls.
They want a global, global independent investigation at the UN.
So it's going to be interesting to me to see how long this administration can hold out saying, we don't know anything.
It's fine.
We did what we needed to because the rest of the world is not saying that.
Well.
They're gonna go down with the ship, because they're not gonna admit anything.
It's not
And I'm Brian Noon, and Governor Evers wants to join the World Health Organization Alert Network, one candidate.
Oh, he's calling to vote
started.
I was not prepared for that.
We're talking about the who.
We are talking
about.
Well, we are talking about the who.
They had a lot of songs other than the teenage rate.
We're coming up with a dog dying.
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Wow.
OK.
I'm sorry.
I'm just a little shocked.
All right.
It's 6.23 right now.
Civic media morning on the Civic media network.
My name is Jamie Martin.
I'm not going to tell you who I am because I can't be associated with what just happened.
But I will tell you, if you want to get involved in the program, and if you're as shocked as I am, 8-5-5-7-5-CIVIC, 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
And yes, in very remote reaches, we are going to talk about the who, but not Roger Daltrey, Pete Townsend, John Entwistle, and Keith Moon.
We are talking about the World Health Organization and their disease alert network, because the other night in the state of the state, Governor Evers said,
that he plans to have Wisconsin join that global outbreak alert and response network because he wants Wisconsin to have the ability to detect and respond to disease outbreaks.
That sounds very well intentioned.
Sounds like a good idea.
Other states are doing it.
And you know the fact that the U.S.
has pulled out of the World Health Organization is crazy in my opinion.
But so the governor wants to do this.
I think it's great.
But Jamie, no surprise, one of our Republican gubernatorial candidates who has the blessing.
from above, from dear leader.
He's not happy about this.
know how to keep us
Well, do you want to believe science?
or your own feelings?
And other states like California, Illinois, and New York have already agreed to join this World Health Organization Global Outbreak Alert and Response Network.
So Governor Evers just wants to join them and basically, you know, try to make sure that if there is something like another pandemic down the road, we have science leading the way instead of, you know, what we might feel like is happening.
The decision, though, is
obviously political, because Tom Tiffany says that he would remove Wisconsin from the network if elected.
Democrats say the partnership is a science-based step to keep residents safe and prepared for future health threats.
Now, here's what Tom Tiffany had to say on X yesterday.
No, listen, I'm reacting in advance because I've read it.
know.
I'm
says- Why would you expect anything else?
I know, I
minds
What does sovereignty have to do with it?
I have no idea.
This is a worldwide cooperative effort to fight diseases.
Sovereignty?
Are you insane?
they
It is.
How are you defending Wisconsin by cutting off information?
You didn't want to wear a mask because somebody got upset that you couldn't go to church on a Sunday Yeah, all you please can we go back and just show these people?
file footage of the temporary morgues and the piles of bodies and The yes, were we in convenience?
Yes, we were all in convenience.
Did it suck?
Yes, it
harm some businesses?
Yes, it did It was a disease.
We had no control over and if you're still arguing that point
Listen, go to med school, become an expert in diseases.
But don't come at me because you went on Google and you think you know what you're talking about because you have zero idea.
I mean, that's essentially what this is.
John from Oshkosh listening on WISS this morning says, heaven forbid we have leaders looking out for the, for other safety, the outrage.
Couldn't agree more.
And let's be clear.
As of February, Wisconsin health officials have confirmed multiple measles cases tied to international travel, which is a reminder that diseases don't respect the borders.
And just because you say that they don't exist and you don't want the science behind them doesn't mean that they actually don't.
harm people.
Tom Tiffany, talk to measles about your sovereignty.
Yeah, I'm sure they will stop at the border.
Right.
And just maybe they'll stay in Canada or in Mexico, but they won't come here because you're sovereign.
what we like them for.
Right, and you and I aren't virologists.
No!
We're not supposed to take care of ourselves to a point.
Yes.
Then there's other people who are experts in this, who've studied this, who've
devoted
their lives to trying to figure out how to stop this.
And they're the ones who are giving us the warnings.
If we are too ignorant to heed those warnings, then that's back on us.
I want to know.
It started with vaccines well before the pandemic.
because people like Jenny McCarthy and all the alleged ties that have been debunked time and time again, and, you know, all the vaccines cause autism.
No, they don't.
That's been studied.
We don't want to wear a mask, so all the science is fake.
Well, the information you gave us yesterday is not the same information you're giving us today.
Jamie, again, facts and logic have no place in these arguments.
your choices
Drink whole milk unless you talk to like Pam Yonkey who says, uh, no, whole milk is bad.
But any, any actual ag person goes, no, you need some pasteurized milk.
And work out your
And I'm Brian Noonan and the Trumps are trying to make money on their name
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Oh, my goodness.
We know that there
Nothing Donald Trump likes more than well, there's a couple things probably but one of his putting his name on stuff
Oh,
he oh he wants his name on everything.
It is a it's a central argument in one of the Alderman or the one of the statewide races here in Illinois regarding the Trump Tower and the big name and who allowed that to happen We see it all the time.
He loves monuments to himself.
Well now
There is a bill in Florida, and lawmakers are advancing this to rename the Palm Beach International Airport as President Donald J. Trump International Airport.
It passed the Florida House, 8130.
Now it heads to the Senate and then goes to Ron DeSantis.
Now, that in itself...
is just another eye roll like oh my god seriously dude we get it you have very small parts that you need to overcompensate you're the
it you're already the most powerful guy on the planet sure seriously you need to name that well all my friends fly into Palm Beach when they're coming to Mar-a-Lago okay that's fine you know whatever if you need your ego stroke that badly we get it this is not an issue but
The issue becomes, as we have talked about here and has been talked about all over, the Trump family is really, really benefiting from this term in office, up to a billion dollars so far.
And now they're, JV, they're trying to make sure that any time the president's whims are met and things are named after him, they will continue to enrich themselves.
the Trump organization filed trademarks for Donald J. Trump International Airport, President Donald J. Trump International Airport, and DJT, which has raised a lot of concerns among lawmakers.
So some Democrats say that this trademark filing could open the door for the Trump family to profit from branding or merchandise tied to the airport name, like they haven't already done this, and we actually
will go
One lawmaker even reversed his support for the renaming in Florida and tried to add an amendment blocking any profit to this particular legislation, but that effort failed.
Now, of course, the Trump organization is saying that the family would not receive royalties or licensing fees from the airport name itself and would provide the branding at absolutely no cost.
Remember, they've made over a billion dollars in just the last year.
However, the organization has not clarified whether it would profit from merchandise.
linked to that
trademark.
Like the gift store, the gift shop he has in the Oval Office.
So trademark experts say that these filings are obviously unusual because airports named after past presidents typically didn't involve any sort of private trademark ownership.
Applications cover a wide range of potential products and services, meaning the name could be potentially licensed for merchandise.
Get your DJT international airport t-shirt right here.
I can see it now.
Oh, and you know what, unfortunately?
I can I could see the same people whose MAGA hats
have worn out going I need me a DJ T international airport shirt that honey I know we don't have money to pay the rent but let's get on a flight and go into DJ T airport because I want to I want to get a new Sunday go to meeting shirt
he deserves it though Jamie don't please don't make fun of the price I would pay any price
to support my president.
He is the bestest man on the planet.
So if I have to get some long johns with a flyaway bottom with the president's face right there, I would do it.
And I will support that man.
And I will proudly own the Libs.
So supporters say trade marks can also could be used simply to prevent misuse of a name.
Trump has floated renaming other transportation hubs like Washington, Dulles International Airport, New York Penn Station.
after himself, which could create confusion if multiple airports end up sharing the same
name.
Uh, ladies and gentlemen, Friday at DJT.
Yeah, I'm supposed to be going to Cleveland.
This is acronym.
Oh yeah, that's DJT.
It's all DJT.
are you going to answer any of those questions?
I think the answer to her first question is easy.
Why not?
No, why?
Why?
Why?
Well, don't put words words in our mouth Don but you know, whatever Who is it?
Who's the they is it
in general?
No, no, who's the they that tried to put them?
Oh,
the mythical Democrats.
I
that all powerful
Democrats and he's referring to anybody who basically disagrees with the family and their ability to make money as as as
the first family of the United States.
I also think it's a little, the irony here is really thick with Don Jr's comments, right?
Because this family has spent years attacking the Biden crime family over trading on a famous name.
And now critics are saying that the Trump family is doing the same thing on a much larger scale.
Well, they just want us to curl up into, no, what are we?
My head, my head spins trying to, because there's no.
There's no counter argument to them.
No matter how many facts are presented, no matter how many numbers are presented, nothing sticks to them.
They will deflect the deny, deny, deny and go on the counter attack and argue as we learned yesterday when we were talking about the affordability and things.
Argue in the alternative.
legal term.
So they don't argue to defend themselves.
They argue
Against other people.
Absolutely.
So there's no there's because there is no defense.
That's that's the thing.
They have no defense.
No,
They keep talking
we are
Len from Madison texted in, and you can too at 855-75 Civic, how about Trump bathroom tissue with his face on every sheet?
I think that's out there already.
He could make another fortune, a real wipeout.
Ooh, puns
you so much, Len.
Thank you, Len.
It's estimated at about $867 million.
That's right, his company has also pursued more than 20 international real estate licensing projects, including a $1.5 billion golf project in Vietnam that started shortly before the tariffs on that country were lowered.
There's also been major media and business deals,
$28 million paid by Amazon for that Melania Trump documentary and more than 90 million in legal settlements from tech and media companies after his reelection.
Qatar also gifted a $400 million jet intended for presidential use.
Wait a minute, don't let's not lump that in.
Do you expect him to just fly around in his own?
Plain that Obama
I think I saw that they're repainting it actually are
think I don't I haven't seen what no his favorite colors, but I'm sure
favorite colors.
Yes, which are what do we know
just gold, okay?
Green
Now,
if we look back at the first term, if we look back at the first term, Trump reported more than $1.6 billion in outside revenue.
His businesses received millions from foreign governments, including five and a half million from China at Trump properties.
The Secret Service was also reported to have paid above standard rates when staying at Trump-owned hotels
during presidential
Oh, and let me, may I read that?
please.
The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services a compensation, which shall neither be increased or diminished during the period for which he shall have been elected.
And he shall not receive within that period any other emol-
from the United States or any of them.
He is not supposed to be taking gifts.
as
He doesn't.
It would be a pay cut from what he's raking.
Right.
had been doing
There is only one person who can lead us.
And China spent five and a half million.
You mean the China that he's always angry at and putting tariffs on?
He made money from them too.
Who's going to also
right?
All the tiny laborer fingers in China making his DJT merch.
I saw those Bibles when I was covering the Republican convention.
And I saw the size of the gift shops.
And it was just- There's a lot of
a lot of merch.
And like, I don't understand this.
And then for, I don't know if you saw Megyn Kelly raging on that the Democrats are a cult.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, wait, a cult worships one leader who can never do anything wrong.
Maybe look in the mirror, Megyn and the rest of the group.
sure
And I'm Brian Noon, and let's turn our attention to state parks before those are taken away too.
We'll talk about that and more on the Civic Media Network.
And good morning, I'm Brian Noonan.
Do you go to state parks in Wisconsin?
If so, what ones would you recommend?
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I think the national park system and the state park systems are two of the greatest things we have in this country because it does give us a link to the past and a true place to go and connect with nature.
And the Wisconsin state parks saw almost 21 million visitors last year.
That is good and it's the highest since
2021, but Jamie some state parks are not
They're not being put to good use.
Some are visited a lot.
Yeah, and it's interesting because last year was the 125th anniversary of the Wisconsin State Park System.
And visits actually increased from right around 20 million in 2024 to just over 20 million in 2023, I should say.
The system does include 50 state parks, 44 trails, and 15 state parks.
If you live in the southern portion of the state, you are probably very familiar with Devils Lake State Park.
It is actually the most visited state park in the state, around 2.3 million visitors annually.
We lived in Baraboo for a very long time.
Devils Lake State Park was a very important part of our summer rituals.
I will say this, as beautiful as it is, as much as I love Devils Lake State Park, you feel every bit of those 2.3 million visitors.
Oh
It is really hard to do a lot at Devils Lake during peak summer months.
I personally in the area love
Governor Dodge State Park, which is a little bit more of a drive.
If you do a little hiking, there's a wonderful waterfall kind of buried deep down, which is absolutely exquisite and so awesome to hang out in.
I also am a stickler for Mirror Lake State Park, a lot less traffic, great hiking trails.
If you love to kayak and camp, it's got some beautiful, beautiful scenery.
Really?
club
there you have it.
You're not getting a free dinner for that mention?
Grab about eight old fashions and go sit by the lake.
And then you can really commune with nature.
Yes, you
They got a nice little beach there and everything.
But I actually love... Mirror Lake actually was about maybe five minute drive from our house when we lived in the...
Delz, Baraboo, Reedsburg area.
So I spent a lot of time hiking at Mirror Lake.
Now for the other most visited parks in the state of Wisconsin, behind Devils Lake State Park, you have Kettle Moraine State Park, the Southern unit, with just about 1.5 million visitors last year.
Peninsula State Park, also fantastic.
I've received just over one million visitors and some others that made the list.
Highcliff State Park, which is over near the Green Bay area, also absolutely beautiful.
the Kohler Andre State Park and Rib Mountain, also some of our most visited last year.
And then Brian, of course, if you have your most visited, you have your least visited.
Menominee Ribber Recreation Area was the least visited last year with about 7,500 visitors.
And some others to make the least visited list include Governor Knowles State Park, the Natural Bridge State Park, which is over by the North Freedom Area.
It's not a big state park, but it's a
really cool if you love hiking.
The scenery is beautiful and so you definitely need to check it out if you're in that vicinity and Buffalo River State Trail also one of the least visited over the last year.
So a lot of
options.
It's funny like Buffalo River and some of the others of the least visited there seem to be more they get a lot of their visitors in the fall so that's when people are heading out to Leaf Peep.
Yes.
by the
Yeah, and if you don't want to go to Baraboo and fight the crowds, there's plenty, plenty of other places to go.
Yeah, well, there's there's the park that I grew up with was Paterson State Park in far northern Wisconsin south of superior there
That
beautiful park with the two to why with the waterfalls there the big man of two falls and little man of two falls that Oh nice.
Yeah that are on the river that it's a great.
It's you know, I learned to swim in interfalls lake that With that, you know a little dammed up lake there and it's just a beautiful park and that's one of the older parks
donated I think by one of the lumbermen that you donated the territory for by one of the lumbermen back in the day and Because you wanted you know people to have a place to enjoy.
much That's
our
hike
We are a
that's
we do, which is
I was going to say, it looks like it would be more work other than you're up off the ground.
Yes,
And you can close it up if the nights get cool.
Now, if you're interested in visiting any of these exquisite state parks that we have to offer around the state, if you have a Wisconsin license, a 12 month pass is $28.
A daily pass is $13.
It is, but if you're going to come
from out of state because I know we have some streamers in the out of state area.
You can get a 12 month pass for $50 or a daily pass for $16.
So, you know, pretty reasonable though if you want to spend some time in Wisconsin.
Yeah, exactly.
It'll be that time soon.
absolutely.
I'm sure over the last couple days people have thought, oh, let's go out and there's been some hiking going on the last couple days.
Definitely.
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