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What did you take away from Governor Evers state of the state address last night?
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4842 as you know the governor delivered his final state of the state address he outlined priorities for his last year in office he received after receiving bipartisan standing ovation everybody was happy at the beginning that's how we like to see it this year is according to the governor he is named the year of the neighbor after last year being the year of the kid he wants us to emphasize unity kindness and concern about political division and federal policy impacts i think the governor may have
had a little drink or two before he made that side.
Decided on that because
No, but I'm very happy he's trying to emphasize unity and kindness.
And he was worried about a lot of things.
We have a lot of audio, a lot of things to get to Jamie.
It started off like he said, oh everybody, everybody in the chamber, very happy.
while.
And I thought it was interesting, it was a juxtaposition that I found fascinating because he finished right as the poll started closing yesterday all across Wisconsin.
So it was a reminder that democracy was literally happening in real time in front of our eyes.
which always makes me very excited.
And I figured, you know, I thought it was also interesting that he walked right up to the podium and he opened with, it's gonna be a blast.
And he kept that very energetic kind of fiery, feisty tone throughout, which is a little different than we see from Governor Evers a lot of the times.
And I also thought it was very fascinating because a lot of people thought he was just gonna get up there and really just phone it in, do a retrospective view of what he has done in his last,
seven years as governor.
And that was not, not what we got last night.
In fact, he expressed some worry about federal layoffs, tariffs, immigration enforcement, the gerrymandered maps.
We'll talk about that in a bit.
Um, any urge cooperation in Wisconsin.
And this is what he had to say about immigrants.
This has cut one, please.
I'm also angry when I think about our neighbors, young kids and families across the state who aren't going to school or work or anyplace else because they're scared.
Leaving their home may mean their family will be torn apart.
I worry about our kids who are being traumatized by violence on social media in the news on our streets and in our neighborhoods.
And I worry about what all this means for America's Dairyland, which has depended on the hard work of immigrants for generations.
That was part of his closing remark.
So that tells you how fiery the governor was throughout the entire evening.
He thanked his supporters and his wife, Kathy, of course, Kindergarten Sweethearts, as we like to call the governor and his lovely wife.
And he said he'll share more reflections in a future farewell address.
He did highlight several of his achievements, Brian.
Well, you have
to, and there were a number of them.
It's fine, but back to your original point, I'm glad he didn't make this a, hey, let's pat me on the back.
I've put in a long time.
I'm going out, I still have time, and we're going to get things done, and we're going to do it this way.
So what did he pick to highlight
himself?
Well,
is for
We've been working hard to build together just because it's an election year.
So I know the legislature would rather hit the road and take the rest of the year off, but I'm going to ask lawmakers to stick around until our work here is finished.
Yeah, there's a what?
Do my job.
What are you out of your mind?
I have vacation next week.
I've got my tickets already booked now.
But Governor Evers did highlight priorities, including land conservation funding, postpartum Medicaid coverage, and also lowering prescription drug costs.
Republicans have proposed spending right around $2.4 billion in surplus on property tax relief, special education funding, and also disaster relief along with some tax rebates.
Now, of course, we know that there have been some tensions among the Republicans and Governor Evers as Republicans have urged him to essentially take a deal why he says that the proposals they've offered are not enough.
Now, this was one of the most shocking moments, I think, of the night, especially for our panel that we had assembled here on civic media.
He actually called for a constitutional amendment banning partisan gerrymandering, which I totally agree with, right?
But he plans a special session this spring.
This is cut three, please.
While we have fair maps today, we still don't have a nonpartisan redistricting process in place.
That means there's no guarantee Wisconsinites still have fair maps after the next census.
So tonight I'm announcing that I'll be calling a special session of the legislature this spring to take up a constitutional amendment to ban partisan gerrymandering once and for all in Wisconsin.
No, it was fascinating because at the beginning of his remarks, he even had some of the Republicans standing and giving him an ovation on some of the more bipartisan things that have taken place in the last seven years.
By the time he got to a special session on gerrymandering,
They were just stuck in
their seats.
Well, he had already asked them to stick around and do their job, which did not go over well.
And now what?
Oh, you're going to try to make it so we can't.
Reconjigger our maps and try to win right because we can't win straight up.
We got to win on the map So that boy you've what happened Tony things were going so well.
We were all getting along It's the year of the neighbor.
What why are you upsetting
Why did you step over that line?
You crossed my fence so to speak I thought it was interesting though listening because at the beginning there was a lot of talk about bipartisanship and you heard the comments of the the
the two parties working together.
The speech, though, to me was much more combative than that.
At
least it
was more than what we, I think, expected, especially when it came to issues like healthcare and also gun violence and obviously calling out the role of this particular legislature.
He didn't sound like somebody who wanted to coast to the finish line.
In fact, he laid out a pretty strong agenda for the remainder of this legislative session.
he made it clear that he wants lawmakers to stay at the Capitol.
He made it clear that they must keep working.
And it felt like a guy who was trying to define the next chapter of what Wisconsin should look like and really separate himself from the president, the national Republican Party,
and
And it was a legacy, setting up a legacy.
final, you know, part of his term and his exit is going to be, he's not going out with a whimper.
He's not just Irish good buying the state.
He's staying, he's getting things done.
He's going to try to get things done, I should say.
And he's going to move on and he didn't spare any ...
soft words for the Republicans especially when it came to health care and things like
that
that they are he said Republicans are responsible for this and that will be remembered when it came to costs and affordability and he he
left guns blazing, so to speak.
And, you know, he talked a lot about public health and public safety last night.
If you've missed his address, he did announce a partnership with the Milwaukee Bucks to launch a campaign against domestic violence.
He also went, he highlighted childcare and education efforts, including the Get Kids Ready program, which is expected to help up to 24,000 kids in this state.
And he announced, which he is not the first Democratic governor to do this.
He actually announced that he's going to be signing an executive order in the coming weeks to have Wisconsin joined the World Health Organization's Global Outbreak Alert and Response Network.
And again, that is in direct response to what's happening on the federal level.
And so this is cut four.
We've seen several Democratic governors do this in very blue.
Illinois has done it.
Yep.
Yep.
Uh, California was one of the first to also do it.
Um, but in either democratic leaning or, uh, very purple states, the swing state, I believe Josh Shapiro has also looked at this in, uh, Pennsylvania.
I don't know if he's actually signed on, but I mean, it makes sense.
The democratic governors are doing what they need to, to make sure people are protected and safe.
And even, even when the federal government doesn't want to do that, and it feels like there's a dare election of duty there.
No, the federal government is busy.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
is working out with Kid Rock and drinking milk in a sauna and doing an ice plunge in blue jeans.
Of course.
I don't know if you've seen this new propaganda film that came out.
It was...
It's one of those things where, as I watched it, and we'll get right back to the governor, just the sidebar, I watched it and I thought, what kind of world are we living in?
Where this is supposedly our Secretary of Health, and he's in jeans, shirtless, doing push-ups while Kid Rock rides an exercise bike.
Where are we?
What universe?
Evers is talking about unity and empathy and doing things.
And Kid Rock is literally flipping
the camera during his exercising.
A lot of talk last night about energy, renewable energy, data centers, a lot of talk
governor about that.
Right, and I like that he did explain in plain English.
This is what that means, folks.
appreciated about Tony, right?
He's not a flashy guy, but because he's been in education so long, he knows how to talk to people.
And I think that's what people have really loved about Tony Evers as his as governor of this state.
But he did say that
The state of Wisconsin is going to partner with UW Madison to explore nuclear energy as a clean power source.
He also mentioned entering into a fusion energy plan with UW.
This is cut five, please.
Our newly created Ignite Wisconsin program is going to make strategic investments to advance startups in our state.
targeting sectors to boost our homegrown innovation.
This includes connecting the dots to invest in the Wisconsin Fusion Energy Coalition, anchored by UW Medicine's Fusion Research, so Wisconsin becomes a national hub for commercializing fusion energy.
What I appreciate about that is he's obviously looking at different sources of energy to help alleviate the costs for a lot of families across the state.
I think it also, with UW losing funding, I think this is a great way for them to maybe bring back some of that job and what's been lost, again, at the federal level.
Go
No, I was just agreeing
And I'm Brian Noon, and Kristi Noem has upset the Coast Guard.
What?
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Unless you're Christie Noam, lose that number because she is aggravating everybody now.
Even the Coast Guard.
And I know the Coast Guard is...
a branch of the military, even though sometimes people don't remember that.
But it is Coast Guard and then Space Force.
Those are the two that people forget, you know, the most.
But Coast Guard, Coast Guard's an important branch of the military.
Well, Kristi Noem and the Coast Guard leadership are now
at each other because of priorities and resource use rather they say the dispute involves the expanded use of Coast Guard aircraft for immigration deportation flights which some officials say strains their aviation units yes everything is going to this this immigration crackdown
Every every branch is getting pulled everybody's getting redistributed so that all we've got to get everybody out of this country And so it's only Donald Trump and Kristi Noam and Steven Miller left
it's staying.
They won't sure because he's gonna start Well, he'll probably keep a Pambandhi
Caroline Levitt because there'll be no no
What
I think is fascinating about this story is that the Coast Guard has this long-standing mission, which is literally to protect lives at sea, safeguard the environment, and defend U.S.
economic interests on our waterways.
Nowhere does it say that you should do the bidding of DHS Secretary Kristi No.
That's not in there whatsoever.
According to this report, the use of Coast Guard aircraft for deportation flights has surged hundreds of
have been redirected from traditional missions like maritime patrol and search and rescue.
Some current and former officials say that's putting added strain on what is already limited resources, creating concern that there's longstanding missions that are being deprioritized.
The Department of Homeland Security disputes that claim and says that the Coast Guard continues to balance all of its responsibilities.
I don't think that's what's happening at all.
I think she's just upset because we know that there have been reports.
that she and other parts of the Trump administration have had a longstanding affair.
These are reports from sources within the administration.
And just a couple of weeks ago, she actually left some things on an aircraft after whatever this little trist was that she was having.
And
the Coast Guard
that.
The mind reels.
I am concocting this scenario with my head
have left behind and it's shocking.
for a minute?
been a lot of... I mean, it's been out for a long time that she and Corey Lewandowski are allegedly in romantic entanglement.
Going back to Goop and a little Gwyneth Paltrow.
Yeah, so it's no secret that that's the person
allegedly is part of this, and we'll say allegedly, because I'm not a Coast Guard member who had to carry dirty underwear back to anybody, not that that's what they had to do.
thought
be fair.
You talk about getting intimate in a plane and things come off.
It's not hair.
The hair they just vacuum up.
They're not going to carry like some possum tail back to Kristi Nome ago.
Here you want to tape this back on your noggin secretary?
I don't I'm surprised that you know you
You would think that the Department of Defense can commandeer aircraft from branches
military.
I'm surprised that DHS is able to do that too.
I know they do use military aircraft for a lot of their flights that we see in the commercial every night a million times.
Christina, I'm telling us that the runway is your home.
But the relationship reportedly worsened between DHS and the Coast Guard after an early incident involving aircraft use during a search for a missing service member.
And there have been other reports of internal clashes and more moral concerns.
Critics have also questioned the purchase of that new Gulfstream jet.
and several of them for DHS travel.
Well,
then you don't have to worry about any of your personal items.
See,
Well, of course because she was out I don't know if you saw the clip the other day of her making a speech saying She is going to make sure only the right people win the election.
Yes.
She is she is another attack dog of his just
Just like Caroline Levitt.
She will she will do whatever it takes right to please him She will do whatever it takes to continue to grab more power for herself.
It's a It's
I think it's easy to sit and judge and say, boy, it's got to be an empty life when that's your whole goal.
And I may seem judgmental because, let's be honest, I am.
I just don't understand it.
We get
judgemental.
Yeah, that's the job.
Thank goodness.
I would hate to have a job where I had to be impartial
the time.
It depends what you're covering that blanket with.
This is true.
Using that blanket to cover.
bring up lawful
unlawful orders, Jamie.
I don't want to get called in for the Congress.
It's a whole thing.
cannot question.
And I'm Brian Noonan, and we will talk a little bit about the Democrats maybe having an upper hand on the Civic Media Network.
And I'm Brian Noonan, President Trump campaigned.
One of his many promises was that he was going to bring prices down on day one.
Well, we all kind of know that didn't happen, but is there any progress?
And what can Democrats do to...
bolster that promise and maybe make some of it come true.
Paul Glastres is the editor-in-chief of Washington Monthly.
They are an independent media organization based in Washington, D.C.
He was previously a speech writer for President Clinton and a correspondent and editor at US News and World Report.
WashingtonMonthly.com is where his writings can be found and he just put on a new piece about the affordability bidding war.
Paul, thank you for being here.
We appreciate your time this morning.
Now, despite the administration claiming that affordability is a term made up by the Democrats, you wrote that there's now, like I said, a bidding war between the two parties over affordability.
Can you explain that?
What does that mean, a bidding war?
So you're right.
The president does what the lawyers call arguing in the alternative, right?
My client didn't kill that man.
And if he did kill him, it was in self-defense, right?
So affordability.
We have the best economy in you know, there's no really issue with the economy.
It's all great and affordability is a literally he set up a hoax a democratic fake news.
And I have the best ideas for bringing prices down so.
He is rolling out and has over the last couple of months and will in this upcoming State of the Union address, which is not very far away, talking about ideas to bring prices down.
And for instance, there was briefly talk of capping credit card interest rates at 10%, sending people on Obamacare checks
where they can go buy insurance rather than using that money to prop up the, you know, to as tax credits for Obamacare, things like that.
And I think we're going to hear more of these ideas because if not the president himself, his senior advisors are freaking out that that the administration has not done enough.
to deal with the issue that is on everyone's minds that is driving the polls, and that is the price of things, affordability, the inability of the average American to, you know, pay for health care, pay for college, pay for housing, even afford groceries at the end of the month.
And so our argument, my argument is when you're in a bidding war, when you're, think about this, Brian and Jamie, if you're playing poker,
And
you have a good hand, right?
You know you have a better hand.
Do you think you have a better hand?
Do you fold?
When the other party bets, do you meet the bet?
Or do you raise the bet?
You raise the bet.
That's how you win.
Democrats have the hand right now.
They're the opposition.
That's okay.
Can
you explain that?
Because Republicans control the Congress.
So most of us are thinking, well, how do the Democrats have the better hand if
We don't have the votes.
Well, look at Mikey Sherrill, the new governor of New Jersey.
Look at Abigail Spanberger, the new governor of Virginia.
Look at Zoran Mamdani, the new mayor of New York.
All three of them ran on ideas about affordability.
Remember Mamdani was going to have free buses?
Right.
municipal grocery stores, rent freeze, Abigail Spanberger says she's going to go after pharmacy benefit managers who drive up health care costs and she's going to go after electric utilities that are having electric rates being driven up by data centers.
Mikey Sherrell did the same thing on the data centers and also said she's going to go after
price gouging in the grocery area.
So those are three candidates who put out aggressive, doable ideas to bring prices down, all three of them won.
So Democrats can right now, in the run up to the midterms, start throwing ideas out and not bad ideas, not ideas that won't work, but ideas that could.
And what we've done in the latest issue of the Washington Monthly is lay out
several much bigger ideas that people are talking about now that would work, we think, as policy and maybe work politically.
So it is a dilemma in politics that if
Let's say President Trump comes in with the State of the Union and says, I want to cap credit card rates at 10%.
He's already hinted that that's what he wants to do.
Or I'm going to get rid of Obamacare, but send you a check for health care.
I think Democrats have to take each individual policy and decide on its merits as well as the politics what they're going to do.
Now on the health care,
idea, it's a terrible idea.
What that will lead to is fewer people with health insurance and the health insurance they get will be of lower quality.
So that's one where Democrats used to say, nope, you're on your own.
We're not going to even talk about it.
We're certainly going to vote against it.
Cap and credit cards is a different idea.
There's some merit to it.
It was Barack Obama's administration that first raised the issue.
But there are second and third order effects that have to be taken into account.
If you cap credit card rates, there's a chance that lower income working folks won't be able to get credit cards.
So the details really matter on that.
And Democrats would be well advised to say, we're happy to chat with our Republican colleagues in the White House.
and chant all the way through the midterms.
And we can deal with this after the midterms, right?
Not give an inch, but you know, neither say yes nor no.
That's good politics and actually good policy.
But on other things, you know, they can say yes to some things, but again, when you have the stronger hand, don't just let the other side determine what the bet is.
Bet bigger.
And the way for Democrats to get ahead of this bidding war that the president is trying to get them in.
And by the way, a bidding war is great.
A bidding war is how politics is supposed to work.
Both parties trying to figure out ideas that would help their voters.
We should be thankful that there's a bidding war.
But there's smart ways to play it and smart ways to get more reform.
And that's what we're talking about.
Paul Glastres is the editor-in-chief of Washington Monthly.
He was formerly a speech writer for President Clinton.
His latest article, Let the Affordability Bidding War Begin, you can find that at washingtonmonthly.com.
I thought you may have used a very good example, Paul, in the piece about electricity.
And instead of a lot of theoreticals, which are always good, but sometimes people like a concrete example, share that example of how this bidding war
works in with electricity as the focus.
Sure.
So the president has already met with some of the governors to come up with some ways of making sure that the data centers don't force up people's electric rates.
That's fine.
That's a good thing.
This shows that he understands he's in political danger.
And the governors have taken that as an opportunity to get a little something done.
But honestly, that's an emerging problem.
It isn't what's raised electric rates up till now.
What's raised electric rates up till now is we have a revolution in low-cost renewable energy, and we don't have transmission lines and other infrastructure to bring that energy into where the major cities and larger towns where most people live.
And that's because investor utilities don't want the competition.
They've got their sources of energy, many of it fossil fuel based, and it's not in their economic interest.
to allow this new lower cost electricity to come in.
We had something like that problem in the depression when electric utilities were price gouging and weren't even providing electricity to rural areas, the new deal Franklin Delano Roosevelt said, fine, we're going to build the Tennessee Valley Authority.
We're going to create our own electricity.
We're going to regulate monopoly
investor-owned utilities with rate commissions.
We're going to provide loans so that municipalities can create electric cooperatives.
All three of those things led to that electrification of the country at reasonable rates.
We need a new version of the TVA to bring low-cost renewable energy to where people need it.
That we know that works because it worked in the depression in the 50s in the 60s some version of that.
That's a good old American Example and it's one I think all Americans should get behind But Democrats have the voters who would who would accept it and be excited about it Republicans I think will have a hard time getting behind that boom you've got an issue
going into the midterms or at the very least into 2028.
If the Democrats happen to follow this advice that you give in this article in the Washington Monthly, what could this mean for the 2028 midterms?
How will this resonate with voters?
Do they actually care who's solving the problems or do they just want the problem solved?
I think a lot of voters just want the problem solved.
That's what you saw in 2024.
A lot of voters didn't think the Biden administration was solving their problems.
They knew they didn't like Donald Trump.
They thought maybe he was a crook and a liar, but maybe he'd shake things up and get them out of their misery, their economic misery.
And they voted for him.
And now you're seeing the support from those swing voters utterly plummet for Donald Trump.
And those voters are up for grabs.
We've seen election after election since the off-year elections in November, where Democrats are winning by margins that the polls never even imagined election after election, and they're doing it on new ideas for affordability, as I said about New Jersey and Virginia and New York.
You need more ideas.
People want concrete plans for how you're going to help them, not just empty words.
I know people say policy doesn't matter.
It does matter.
Donald Trump won with policy.
He said, you know, I'm going to raise tariffs to bring back manufacturing jobs and kick out illegal aliens.
And that's going to raise your wages.
Everybody who voted knew that that was his plan.
And whether you liked it or not, it was clear.
Democrats need clear plans.
What is it about the Democrats that you think doesn't allow them to come up with those clear plans?
Is it that they're so busy arguing against Trump that they're not doing anything to bolster their own beliefs that we only got about a minute left, Paul?
Yeah, I think they're torn.
I think it's changing.
I think the left of the party has put out bold plans in the past that have been not good, if politically or policy-wise, and the moderates have been afraid to do anything.
What I'm seeing is the left getting behind smarter plans and the moderates getting behind bigger plans, and that's a good trend.
Well, Paul, thank you very much.
Paul Glastres is the editor in chief of the Washington monthly.
They are an independent media organization based in Washington, DC, Washington, monthly.com.
Go check out his latest piece.
Let the affordability bidding war begin.
Paul was a pleasure.
We'll talk to you again.
Thanks for having me.
and I'm Brian Noonan.
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Have you been following the Olympics 8-5-5-7-5, Civic 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2?
I know Frank, our senior producer, does not.
He shoes the Olympics at every possible, except hockey.
We always tease Frank because then people get on his back that he hates the Olympics.
I don't think he hates the Olympics.
He just watches hockey, allegedly.
But, all right, listen.
You know, I have been enthralled by a number of things here in the Olympics.
One of them has been curling, based mostly on the quarries coming out of Duluth.
I enjoyed their story, but...
Now there is a controversy.
There is a potential scandal brewing in the curling world at the Olympics, and I am in.
I am 100% in on this.
And why?
Because I'm using it as a distraction from the fresh hell that happens here every day.
So I can look at Milan, I can look at grown men and women throwing granite stones down the ice, and I can think, ooh, you're cheating.
And I can get all invested for nothing.
So
it.
everything.
It's ice, it's granite, it's reality TV, it's profanity, it's Canadians showing their true colors, which run not red and white, but deeply brown like the maple syrup that they export to us.
That's their true color.
The Canadian men's and women's teams in curling as well as the British men's team have all been accused of the same infraction.
Jamie, I don't know if you knew this was an infraction.
I did not touching the curling stone.
Again, not a euphemism.
That's after it is released.
So here, I'll give you a brief timeline.
So Friday, Oscar Erickson of Sweden accused Canada's Mark Kennedy of breaking the rules by touching the rock again after initially releasing it down the sheet of ice.
Kennedy responded with an expletive laden outburst, which we cannot play as much as I've begged.
They will not let us play his outburst.
It's too much.
But it's
Canada.
It's, you know, we should hear because we picture Canada as Mounties and
polar
all everybody loves.
Yeah, don't mess with them when it comes to hockey
curling.
So anyway, so
Let's be real.
Well, that's true.
And Mark Kennedy's was being accused of cheating.
And he lambasted Ericsson of Sweden.
And I got to give this to Ericsson.
We'll talk about it after.
I'll
show you the
pictures
and
then they did they showed the video and It appeared to me a novice curling judge that yes, Canada had double tapped because he let it go and then you see his his index finger But the thing is like what I say touch he didn't push it with his index finger He just touched it and I'm like how much does I guess it changes it a lot because it's a rule.
Okay, so then Saturday
An umpire accused another Canadian.
This time, a woman, Rachel Holman, of the same infraction.
That's right.
The umpire stopped play and the stone was removed.
Holman looked shocked and denied the allegation.
I think they may secretly work for the Trump administration.
Don't believe what you see.
Surprise squirrel.
Now then on another video backed up the umpire that Rachel had in fact double-touched That on Monday in the ninth end of Britain's round robin game.
There's ten ends in case you don't know curling.
There's ten
ends The they were playing Germany and Bobby Lemme Lemme of Scotland touched a stone again
So there are rules against this, Jamie.
A world curling clarifier that the double tapping is not allowed.
They said in a statement during forward motion, touching the granite of the stone is not allowed.
This result in the stone being removed from play.
And why should we care about this?
I know you're thinking it.
I see it in your face.
Why should
I am stunned that this seems like such a one of those sports where, gosh, none of us really understand the rules enough to know what is a rule and what is not.
So the fact that there are this many rules and the IOC is probably going to have to look at their rules going forward for the next Winter Olympics in four years is stunning to me, honestly.
It's stunning.
You're partially right.
The curling world has been known for a quiet camaraderie.
And there have been some scandals before.
There's broom gate.
There was a sweeping related thing in the world curling.
That was solved last June.
That's water.
under the broom.
on.
Yes, they can't do that.
So now that we've got beef, it's a very big story.
And the Canadians have taken this as a personal front.
They are not
taking
this.
They've been humiliated on the world stage, and I don't know what they're going to do, but they're saying the friendship and the values of respect have been decimated.
And Canada was expected to win the gold, and now they're back on their heels.
Just quickly, if you want to learn how to curl, you can do it February 21st in Milwaukee.
I'm glad you did.
From three to seven at Riverwalk Commons, they're doing a frost fest and you can learn to curl.
You can go and practice.
You have some fun.
So yeah, and I don't, again.
I understand that it seems completely irrational that I'm this fired up about it.
You think this drama is bad?
Folks, stick around till 750.
Jamie, I brought drama this hour.
And it is, oh man,
you think curling drama is bad?
And I'm Brian Noonan.
And after the news, tell us how do you feel about Wisconsin Republicans not putting forward legislation to implement Governor Evers agenda?
We'll talk about that.
much more in the next hour on the Civic Media Network.
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