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All right, we talked a little bit at the beginning of the show about the state of the state address that Governor Evers gave last night.
We're going to talk a little bit more about it.
But how do you feel about Wisconsin Republicans not putting forward legislation that would implement
Governor Evers' agenda.
855-755-CIVIC, 855-752-4642, because, you know, they're going home, allegedly, even though the governor did urge them, urge them to stay, and he's gonna call a special session again in the spring, he threatened.
But they're not gonna, they're...
they're really just treating him as a lame duck and it's like why even why even put the the effort forward and that's got to be a little maddening.
I know it is a little maddening to me.
This has essentially been the play of the Wisconsin Republicans since Tony Evers was elected.
Right before Scott Walker left office after that election they
put forth a bunch of legislation that made it really difficult or was supposed to make it really difficult for Tony Evers to do his job as governor of the state.
So this isn't the first go around that he's had with the Republican Party and this will of theirs to not allow him to basically do anything.
And so if you missed last night, he actually gave his eighth and final state of the state.
He declared it the year of the neighbor highlighting bipartisanship but also urging
lawmakers to act on several of these key priorities before he leaves office.
And in fact, he wants them to stick around.
Here's what he had to say.
Cut two, please, Parker.
We've been working hard to build together just because it's an election year.
So I know the legislature would rather hit the road and take the rest of the year off when I'm going to ask lawmakers to stick around until our work here is finished.
and you know they're thinking oh no but I would imagine there's I'm sure the Democratic side of the legislature is like good finally somebody's saying
we need to be here we don't need nine months off there's a lot to do and it's good that the I agree that the governor called them out and real
He called out the entire legislature.
He was a little diplomatic.
He did not say that the Republican leadership is going to send everybody home.
happening.
Which he could have, of course.
Yeah, we all know.
But you got more flies with honey,
Sure.
This is what he still had the Republicans in the palm of his hand during the speech as well, where everything was still bipartisan and look at all the things we've done together before Evers went a little different.
partisan, more combative route towards the end of the speech.
And we'll talk about that in a moment.
But good.
And I don't think they will stick around.
Somehow I doubt that Robin Voss is going to go, you know what, Governor, you're right.
We'll take seven months off.
Yeah.
We'll stick around a little bit.
Here's
your
That does nothing for any of us and that's what should be the concern because we don't elect people to show up in Madison for two months out of the year and then
just forget that there are legislatures or they're supposed to be making the laws that affect all of us each and every day.
We elect them for multiple years so that they can do a job to better the state.
And obviously we've forgotten that.
That's what, no, no, we didn't forget
forget it.
Their job, as far as they see it, is to come in and then stay in office.
So their job is to campaign.
And the governor brought that up
at some point
too, that we're not just here to campaign.
But that is the reality of politics today.
And it's both sides.
Everybody wants to stay in power.
And so you get in office, you do the bare minimum, and then you campaign.
And you try not to do anything that's going to rock the boat too much.
You want to maintain that status quo.
You want to be on a couple committees.
You want to author a couple of bills.
How
situation we're in.
It's not good for any of us, and yet it's the way we've allowed things to go.
There's no reason that the Wisconsin legislature goes away for nine months.
You can't give me that reason.
Right.
Right.
Because it doesn't exist.
And if you're a legislator who says, well, I have to get home to my other businesses, well, listen, friend, you ran for office.
This is the gig.
Yeah.
You got to be around.
You got to do some things.
So what's your priority here?
Did you run for office just to increase your own profitability and your own face?
This is where my mind goes.
We want to talk about some of the things that the governor put forth in his agenda, but we've got Dick on the phone right now.
So, Dick, you wanted to comment on our congressional leadership in Congress.
What do you have to say this
morning?
on both and at the state level.
I mean, you remember historically when Truman referred to a do-nothing Congress?
These two bodies, the state level here and the federal, would make them look like workaholics.
They do nothing.
And secondly, at the state level here, they don't even have the Epstein files to shut down over.
you.
There's no reason.
Lazy.
Dick.
He started with affordability and tax relief, proposing $1.3 billion in property tax relief, including $450 million in general school aid and tax credits.
I also thought it was interesting that he called out the Republicans who have been
who have had such a line with this 400-year veto.
Now, here's what I'm gonna say, and I am not somebody who is going to defend the veto powers that the governors in this state have.
I think they're a little ridiculous, right?
Because they can just move things around.
However, in this particular case, I think there needs to be more rational conversation, right?
And I think there needs
Why, of course, it's politics, of course.
Republicans running under fair maps need someone else to blame for failing to fund our schools at the levels I've asked them to for about two decades of my life.
Here's the truth.
Funding our schools is a responsibility that the state and local partners share.
Local property taxes go up when the state fails to do its part to meet its obligation.
I
I think it's fascinating with this GOP leadership that this is pretty much where, as soon as Evers got to about this point in the speech, you could tell that Robin Voss was no longer interested and the kumbaya, rainbow sunshine, bipartisanship of it all had essentially disappeared.
You see his face right behind the
governor as
And this is where Robin Voss was pretty much over anything the governor had.
to say.
Tony Evers went on to say that he proposed eliminating sales tax on everyday items like diapers and over the counter medications, which would lower some prices, not drastically, but enough to help out.
He also, this was a big one called for capping insulin co-pays at $35 and cracking down on insurance price gouging.
That's a big one.
That's huge.
That
would be huge for people.
The answer, just follow the money.
It's very simple.
There's a lot of big pharmaceutical companies, not only around the country, but here, and there's strong lobbying activity.
They want to keep making that money.
But if you are on insulin, as my wife is and my best friend is,
And for a while he was not his he was between jobs.
Mm
hmm.
That is that's some expensive stuff.
It is
like a lot of medicine.
If you there's a lot of medications, if you need them, it is really cost prohibitive.
Let's make it easier for people.
I mean, what is the problem?
I don't understand why we can't do this.
Well, because you're going to be on vacation in Aruba, at least, or the Bahamas.
That's what I imagine.
He also went on to talk about the workforce education and childcare, announcing two new registered apprenticeship pathways.
He urged action on school funding and special education reimbursement.
He even highlighted the Get Kids Ready program, which is projected to support up to 24,000 children.
across this state.
He went on to talk about the Office of Violence Prevention and making it permanent.
That's not a permanent office that we have in this state yet.
And he wants to provide $66 million for victim services.
He advocated for closing the Green Bay Correctional Institution by 2029.
And he even called for that constitutional amendment banning partisan gerrymandering and plans a special session.
These are things that we obviously cannot get the GOP on board with because apparently they still want to gavel out yet this week.
This is bonkers
to me.
Of course it is.
It's insanity and it's been insanity for a long time and it just keeps going and unless it's finally put to rest, this whole map
Yes, and all the gerrymandering it's going to continue because if if the Republicans have the majority they're gonna stop
whatever
a Democratic governor is going to do in order to Flex their muscle and they're doing it and the governor did call once again for a special session Yes, he wants them to come back in the spring and do it and that
boy.
That was where things really got well really good
Feisty for the Republic
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It's very exciting stuff.
And it kind of reminds us that the warm weather is coming, even though it's very nice out today.
It is very nice out today.
It's fake spring.
are being duped, but it'll be, it's getting cold again this weekend.
But either way, we had a few nice days and we can look forward not only to the state fair in the summer.
Baseball is on its way.
Spring
training has started.
So things are looking good unless...
You are a Democratic candidate from Texas who is trying to appear on a late night talk show.
Then things are dicey.
If you haven't heard, and I get very worked up about these kind of censorship topics, so does...
the fact that CBS is once again, kowtowing to the administration, worry you at all.
855-75 Civic, 855-7524-842, a little background.
You know, Stephen Colbert, there was a big hubbub.
His show is coming to an end.
Every late night franchise on CBS is coming to an end.
They said it was because of financial reasons.
Ah, you could argue it because that show was making money.
generates revenue doing very, very well in the ratings.
Either way, the late show with Stephen Colbert is ending in May.
He says now that CBS has refused to air his interview with Texas lawmaker James Tellerico over fears of FCC retaliation.
And that may sound familiar because you might remember Jimmy Kimmel
being
taken off the air.
and then immediately returned to the air.
You may remember that this whole late show with Colbert thing, there were whiffs of that and CBS's new director of news has drawn a lot of controversy.
We'll get to another story about that in a second.
But this was strange because there's an ancient rule by the FCC for broadcasters and it's the fairness
doctrine.
So we're supposed to, if we have a candidate on who is running for governor from one party, we're supposed to have all their opponents on.
Well, not us, because there is an exemption for radio and television, most especially for the late night or any sort of talk show.
So if Regis and Kathy Lee back in the day had had on, I don't know, Bill Clinton, just to talk.
And even if he was a candidate, they didn't have to have everybody else who was running against him on.
Right.
But that might not be the case because Brendan Carr
he's thinking about taking that exemption away.
they're bringing their.
politicizing entertainment.
And that used to be the thing.
Well, if they're coming on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, we know it's
then.
But at any rate, President Trump has previously threatened to pull broadcast licenses from networks that criticize him and that he doesn't like or have said negative things about him.
Fascinating because the CBS denies blocking any of this interview, saying it's only providing legal guidance about the equal time rule.
I say that this is fascinating in the way that CBS is denying it just like ABC did when they ended Kimmel for that very short
time
here's the thing, the networks are not, the networks set a horrible precedent.
When they started paying off
instead of fighting these legal challenges and lawsuits from
from Trump they caved because they thought it was easier to pay off than to fight even though even though they all knew and they put out statements that they knew they could win the lawsuit but it was just such a distraction and it would take a lot of resources so they bent the knee well now that is the you've opened the bar and door and now the horse is gone because they can they can threaten anything and these networks will go oh come on
where the CBS already paid, ABC already paid, they're gun shy now.
They don't want to, God forbid you make a stand and you, you know, stand behind your people.
called.
can't, and he's, this is the guy, this is the guy who oversees broadcast and he's telling
Colbert and Kimmel and stuff.
If you don't like the rules, go to cable.
Well, guess what?
You can try to censor them on CBS, but the interview is out and now millions of people have watched it.
Probably more than would have watched it had just aired on the late show.
Yeah, but...
Good.
I'm glad.
I'm glad more people are seeing it.
I'm glad more people are listening.
another defection from CBS
a big name
Anderson Cooper is actually leaving 60 minutes after nearly two decades as a
correspondent for the show.
That will end that dual role that he's had with CNN and CBS.
Now he says this decision was because he wants to spend more time with his two young sons while they're growing up.
That is legitimate.
They are six.
They are four years old.
Every
parent
Now he joined the program in 2006.
He became one of the most recognizable journalists very quickly.
He actually earned Emmys for
on a couple of high-level stories, including on sexual violence in the Congo.
And obviously, CBS says, thank you for your contributions.
I find it impeccable timing that he's stepping
down.
And this is not the first defection or controversy that 60 Minutes has gone through in the last few months under new leadership.
not.
But what do you get to do?
And I'm Brian Noonan, the Civic Media
And I'm Brian Noonan.
You know there's been a lot of talk about election regularities, especially when it comes to absentee ballots.
And so the USPS, that's the United States Postal Service for the uninitiated, has changed some postmarking rules that could create some complications, not only for voters here in Wisconsin, but for voters around the nation.
To my folks is the public investigator.
public investigator reporter for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
She's been covering this story and other stories focused on accountability and local policy making, and we're glad to have you.
Tamiah, thanks for being here.
Always a pleasure to talk to you.
First of all, let's get right to the heart of it.
Are these new rules going to affect Wisconsin voters in the short term?
Yeah, so in this short term I would say that it kind of depends on what kind of voting timeline you have laid out for this upcoming election season with
This story, I think the motivation for writing it was that, you know, we know a lot of people can run into barriers when they go vote, whether that be trying to get an absentee ballot and requesting it a little too late so it doesn't come in the mail on time.
And in this case, this story focuses on whether or not you need to, you know, make several days in advance to turn in your absentee ballot so that it can arrive to your polling location on time.
So this new role that the United States Postal Service kind of enacted around Christmas time kind of quietly was a
rule that said that local US Postal Service locations do not have to hand cancel or postmark a piece of mail on the day that someone brings it to a postal location.
And so with this rule, yes, you know, if you bring it in on the day of and you ask them, can you please add a postmark to my mail?
Then you can have that proof that you brought it on an early day before the election.
But
Otherwise, it could take a day or two for them to postmark it at one of their regional processing facilities.
So the goal with this story was to inform people again how critical it is to have that timeline laid out so that if your mail is delayed and postmarked by a day, then you won't be impacted by this rule.
And you can just be kind of rest assured that you have a vote counted.
Yeah, so I think for a lot of people, it's not necessarily just the postmark issue.
One of the things that we've been writing about at the Journal Sentinel is some of the weather delays that we've been seeing when it comes to mail.
We've had a lot of severe snow this year in different areas of the state and across the country.
Obviously, we've seen kind of wild severe weather.
And so if you're not always sure that the weather conditions are going to be friendly to your ballot either, it's also kind of critical to have this plan in place.
We've also seen a lot of
United States Postal Service local postal locations, either clothes or kind of scale down staffing.
There have been some locations in Wisconsin where they've had to ramp up staffing in busy periods, whether that be the holidays or around an election cycle.
I did speak to some officials from the United States Postal Service who said that when it comes to election mail, they have a very specific process that they follow to ensure that everything arrives on time.
But again, you just
always want to be well aware that your ballot A is getting to you on time and also that you're taking it to the Postal Service in time to get it mailed out into your polling location.
Let's go back to something you said at the beginning when the rules changed in December.
And now the local post office, you said doesn't have to handmark a post market right away.
What changed between prior to December and now?
Yeah, so there is this plan called the delivering for America plan that the United States Postal Service, I believe, started working with in around 2021.
And their goal was to be just a little bit more efficient with how they process mail.
And so these regional facilities that exist across the country, we're supposed to, I guess, ease that process and make the cancelling of mail a little bit easier.
The United States Postal Service has
claimed and kind of said in interviews that postmarking was never supposed to be like a resource for the consumer to use as proof that they turn in something on time or mail the document that they needed for an application or a legal service in time.
But we have seen that, you know, government organizations like the IRS in some states across the US use postmarks to confirm whether or not something was sent within a deadline.
And so for us, you know,
this process was one to track because we know that people kind of wait till the last minute, especially when it comes to elections, when they're trying to decide who they want to vote for.
They might wait till the day before or two days before, and it really is critical not only to be engaged with this process early on and to be tracking the politicians that you'd like to vote for, that you have questions about, but also to lay out that timeline so that you can meet this deadline.
for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Now you mentioned the fact that there have been some changes to delivery service and some different things the Postal Service is doing and that includes even adding staff and some Sunday deliveries.
And so how unusual is that and is that helpful in any way according to what you're finding through your reporting?
It seems like it has been helpful in election seasons to have more people staffing those locations in person.
Again, with absentee voting though, I think that a higher number of staff is not always helpful.
It really is determining whether or not a ballot can make it from.
Another city let's say we have a college student voting in another state, but they want to vote in their hometown You know, there's no guarantee that if you drop off a ballot, you know the day before your local election in Seattle that it's gonna arrive to Wisconsin on time So I would say it kind of is again.
It's on the person who is voting to be aware of those deadlines I think the USPS is doing their best it seems to try to inform people about or at least have kind of
positions in place so that they can get ballots where they need to be at least locally.
But when we're thinking about someone, you know, voting from a different state, especially college students are always on my mind.
I think that that becomes more difficult to determine whether or not it's effective.
And Tamar, what's the rule in Wisconsin if I may I mail it in and it's postmarked prior to election day, but it doesn't get delivered till the following day.
I mean, I got it in allegedly on time.
Does it count?
Does it not count?
Yeah, in Wisconsin, there are no exceptions for late ballots, so it really is critical to mail your ballot.
kind of a few days before election day, probably to make sure that it gets where it needs to be on time.
There are 14 states in the US that accept ballots that are postmarked by the deadline and come in a little bit late.
Wisconsin is not yet one of those places.
But for people who live in those states, you know, that's that's highly important to know if you again, I think of college students, if you happen to be lucky enough to be voting in one of those states where they'll accept it if it's postmarked by the day, then you kind of have to run to your post office.
You can go up to the desk and ask them.
to post-market for you and then you can kind of rest assured that that will be counted.
Yeah, I think the military voting rules are slightly different.
I'm not as in the loop for that, but there are or there is a little bit more wiggle room from what I understand on those deadlines and they're communicated pretty actively on those ballots.
But again, I think, you know, voting as far in advance as you can is
the most important
thing
to do
the absentee ballot application opens up.
I think at least a month before election day.
So if you can get it sooner rather than later, you just can
kind of be protected from some of those natural delays that occur, whether it be you just forgot to send it in one day or something came up at work and you didn't get a chance to get to the post office before it closed.
I think going early is always the best kind of plan of action to prevent any disappointment or problems down the road.
So a good rule of thumb as soon as you get it, fill it out that day, mail it back.
But
if I mail it back and I'm
I'm wondering, oh, I'm kind of close, but I should have enough time.
Can I track it?
Is there a way for me to know if they've actually, who's got it and if they got it?
Yeah, so I think certificates of mailing are probably the best way to do that.
The United States Postal Service offers a variety of services that you can pay for to either track mail or to ship it expedited and also to get a certificate of mailing which can prove that you sent it on a specific day.
If you are very nervous about your ballot, you can employ all of those resources.
Again,
I
think earlier is better than later when it comes to just like being sure that your ballot is getting in, but they do have a few services that you can
pay for and you can certainly ask an employee who works there when you arrive, you know, do I need this or can I get a postmark or is there a way that I can get a certificate of mailing or track this envelope so that I can make sure it arrives where it needs to be.
She is the public investigator reporter for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
USPS has changed some rules on how they're processing mail, especially in this conversation, we're talking about absentee ballots.
And in the state of Wisconsin, there has been a lot of consternation about drop boxes, right?
And each precinct is allowed to do something a little bit differently based on state laws and regulations.
How widely will this help according to what you're finding?
Will these drop boxes help with some of these absentee ballot issues if they're available in certain areas?
Yeah, in Wisconsin, I know there's been a pretty significant scale back of absentee drop boxes in the last couple of years.
I think the best way to ensure your ballot gets where it's supposed to be if you can, and if you're local, is to take it to your municipal clerk's office.
Then they can kind of keep it with all of the other ballots.
They're really good about tracking those resources and keeping everything in the same place.
But I think, yeah, mailing through USPS or...
Taking it straight to your municipal clerk's office is probably the safest way to go when it's turning in a ballot and making sure it's getting counted
To my I'm sorry I this when you were talking to postal officials about this was is there any concern and they're probably Not going to be very forthcoming any concern about how this is limiting people's access to Voting, I mean it seems to be just another step in
Making the process a little harder as you mentioned, you know, you've got it Oh now you can pay for tracking to make sure and it's not necessarily going to be postmarked the day you deliver it and it might go to a regional place instead of the local place it all seems to be playing into a plan to limit people who are voting
Yeah, this particular process I think doesn't necessarily seem to be limiting whether or not people can vote but I think it does necessitate a lot of
clear intention about how you're going to vote and making a plan early.
In Wisconsin, we have three regional processing facilities for the United States Postal Service that serve the entire state.
One is in St.
Paul, Minnesota.
One is in Milwaukee and one is in Green Bay.
So if you are someone living in a rural area and you know that your regional processing facility is not necessarily close in driving distance, you know, the USPS workers have to work just as we do.
They have to drive just as we do across kind of longer distances for the mail to get
there.
So I would say asking for that postmark in person when you drop it off or making that early plan is really the most effective way to ensure that your boat is not being suppressed or that it doesn't get counted.
But as it seems, again, I don't know if that when they were creating this plan for making a more efficient postal service, they were thinking about voting top of mind necessarily.
But they do have a very clear process for how they deal with election mail.
It is kind of marked differently.
And so at least the workers can be more intentional about how they transport and move those documents.
And usually it is with a lot more efficiency than regular mail.
No, it's okay.
Yeah, I briefly mentioned that the IRS does count postmarked mail as on time if it is marked by the deadline.
So I would say, again, getting in early and making sure that you have that postmark before you turn in tax documents is highly critical.
And just try to, you know, avoid waiting till the last minute.
That's the most important thing always.
Don't
Tamia.
Tamia, folks, is a public investigator reporter for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
She covers stories focused on accountability.
local policymaking,
and today, the USPS.
And good morning.
I'm Brian Noonan.
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We, at the end of the last hour, if you weren't with us, we talked about big drama at the Olympics and the curling controversy.
Jamie came to us yesterday with a story about big drama in the mahjong world.
And if you didn't know there was a mahjong world, well then you obviously don't know any older women.
My mother played mahjong weekly with a group.
I was never there.
I know they had a lot of treats and played a lot of mahjong and talked a lot of
smack about other people
So where did you how did this come on to your radar?
We have I have so many questions.
Barbara should be a Canadian
Curler
fighting words.
Yeah, here we go.
so good
I guess she did some stuff that was outright, I mean, really bad.
She put her tile down, said she didn't want it, and then it was going on to Diane, and then Barbara said, I want the tile.
They said, you can't do that.
She took it anyway.
So when you're majean, meaning you won, you have to show all your tiles to move, kind of like mingle, you know?
She takes her tiles and flips them over so nobody knows really what she can add.
Can't verify she won.
Paul Lane has been playing for 20 years and they said we're done with her.
We're not playing.
We're not playing with the cheater anymore.
That's why several people have stopped going on Monday nights because of Barbara.
Barbara needed to go.
She's had a lot of complaints of Michonne and that she can no longer come.
Oh, she goes like this innocent little lady.
She goes to church.
She goes to
church.
Her husband's gone.
Did
she?
Maybe.
I don't
know.
Wow.
Hold on.
He might have done it to himself.
You know, you really, it really bothered me because you hate to be that way, but she is.
Well, people were quit coming.
They wouldn't, instead of saying
something,
they weren't coming.
You know, Barb needed to go.
Barb, come through the line today, and she went over to Diane and she says, I'm sorry I pissed you off.
She says, I'm banned now from Marjon.
Oh, she should
have owned up to what she did.
Wow.
Jamie, first
all, thank you.
I have so many
All right, so who's Barbara?
Well,
don't know.
How gangster is this old lady crew?
Barbara needed to go.
I don't know.
They accuse her of murder.
Then they basically put out a contract on Barbara.
Right?
Who is who is Diane or Pauline Pauline the big boss
who are the two dudes that are sit.
I wonder if they're married to them or just old guys because
you hear stories and there are statistics that bear out a lot of hanky and a lot of panky at some of these senior places in Florida and all over the country.
Are these guys just trolling and listening to these women jabber on in hopes
though.
Yeah, there's one guy who's sitting on, he looks
every old guy you
the Panama
on, he's got the bad beard, a Hawaiian shirt unbuttoned halfway down and some boat shoes.
Yeah, he's kind of out of the circle.
I
how how much is she allegedly right if other people are not coming on Monday night other people are not coming there this is
dropped.
I hope we hear from Barbara.
I have to hear from Barbara.
I have to get it.
I have to get a visual
have to hear her voice because I'm not sure.
Plus we've got to do a wellness check because it sounds like
You'll call Barbara.
It'll be just like that scene.
Barbara walking
somebody's mobile home.
They'll be plastic all over the floor.
It should just go.
Oh no.
And then it's lights
Talk to you
tomorrow.
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