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Interesting fact and a little bit sad as of May 2025, more than 689,000 Wisconsinites or about 12% of the state's population rely on food share benefits, which is nationally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program or SNAP.
They now officially are operating under new work requirements.
Those new requirements are part of several changes to the program to make sense of that and how it's going to
In fact, people here in Wisconsin, Jackie Anderson joins us.
She's the executive director for Feeding Wisconsin.
Feedingwi.org is the website if you want more information.
Jackie, thank you for being here.
We do appreciate your time.
So what are these new guidelines and their end changes, not only for the recipients of food share, but for the state itself?
So let's start first of all, thank you for having me here.
Let's start off with what the work requirement changes are going to be so traditionally people who were at the age of 54
had to provide work requirements, but that has now been bumped up to now 64.
So if you are someone who is on SNAP, you now have to provide work that you're working at least $80 per month, and that also qualifies if you have a child who is under the age of 14.
So two things changed in that, the age of the child and then the age of the recipient who is on SNAP.
So
When you're looking at the number of people based on the numbers that you just said, Brian, in Wisconsin, it's going to impact about 43,000 Wisconsinites who will now have to meet these new work eligibility requirements.
So that's a work eligibility piece.
The other pieces that are now a result of HR 1 or the one big beautiful bill is a cost shift that we will now have to pay on the administrative side.
We also will have to then pay administrative costs.
And so it's the work requirements and the administrative costs are two of the biggest things.
Because obviously we think of families, we think of children, but there's also elderly adults and people with disabilities who use these programs.
So how is this going to affect those households, especially when we're talking about maybe somebody who can't meet the work requirements?
Yeah, it's a great question because we at the food banks and at the food pantries are always thinking about this because we know that transportation, especially in our rural communities, is absolutely an impact.
If transportation is an issue, if there's not opportunities for people to work, it is absolutely going to impact that.
So we at the food banks, again, are looking at how can we offer volunteer hours to help meet people so that they can actually meet those work requirements.
So it is a conversation that we're having with other business leaders too, like how can we offer those additional supports?
you know, 10 more years of having to work is probably not on everybody's radar.
Jack, I remember when this came out, when these changes started coming out, and I'm sure I'm not the only one whose biggest question was why.
What was the justification for these changes and bumping up the age requirements for proving work?
Where did this come from?
Was there scandal or is it just kind of the administration's track record for not really caring what happens to?
people who need help.
Yeah, I think it's more the latter.
I think it's really just making it difficult to be on snap, I think is is part of the part of the one of the goals.
And, you know, it's our role to support people and meet them where they are and do what we can to help make sure that they don't lose their eligibility or lose their, you know, their opportunity to get food.
Feedingwi.org, if you want to check out the website.
We know that there are a lot of places in Wisconsin where there's food insecurity, a lot of food deserts.
But how hard are these areas being hit right now?
And what does this look like going forward, especially with these new requirements, Jackie?
Across the board,
our food banks, and we've got six food banks here in Wisconsin that we work with and support, we're seeing on average about a 30 to 45% increase.
So what that means is the food banks are like the warehouse and then they distribute food out to food pantries across the board.
We're seeing about a 30 to 45% increase for a variety of different reasons.
Rent is going up, inflation, you know, groceries are expensive.
So people are having to use pantries as a way to
to keep food on the table.
So we know that that's happening.
We also know in some parts of our state.
Milwaukee in particular, grocery stores are closing so that food desert that you alluded to, Jamie, is getting bigger and bigger.
On top of that, we have rural communities where some communities are lucky if they have a quick trip.
Otherwise, they're reliant on a dollar general or maybe another gas station that doesn't have the fresh produce, the fresh meats and dairies that we know are required to have a really healthy diet.
Is anybody exempt from this?
Are there groups of recipients who are already on the program that they're not going to be affected by this at all?
Or is it just the people who have to change their ages?
There are some people that are exempt from this, and our state has a really great system.
I will say this over and over when we're looking at SNAP implementation.
And they are really making sure that they have a number of exemptions that are available for people who actually need it.
So we have a really, really low error rate.
I don't know if we want to get into that, but we have really
really good systems in place to be as supportive as possible.
So yes to your question and I will say the Department of DHS is really doing a good job in making sure that everybody who can use those are able to.
there are a lot
So it's going to affect working families for sure.
We know that, again, because people are going to have to work a little bit longer.
But I think it's also going to, you know, we have to really think about, again, the cost of everything, like how is that playing into this?
Because if they're not able to get food share or if they're no longer eligible, then they're going to have to figure out a different way to make ends meet.
And, you know, I think
Thinking about like that people are getting hundreds and hundreds of dollars too.
That's another huge misconception a person gets on average six dollars per day Six dollars like that is not a lot.
So it's not as if you know, someone's getting thousands of dollars It's just it's such a small amount But it's the amount that if you are a senior if you have disabilities like every dollar counts So, you know, it is every dollar makes a difference
Another one of the provisions that came out in 18 states are doing this they're placing the restrictions on what food can be purchased with snap benefits starting this year is Wisconsin one of those states and how does that how do when you hear those restrictions being put on in other places?
How does that make you feel?
So it is it nobody likes to have their choices limited right and so
you know we are doing our best to educate legislators and really talk about the importance of choice and what that actually looks like.
We do know that many other states have had to start implementing this and one of the things too that I don't think everybody
thinks about is the impacts on rural grocery stores.
So imagine, you know, someone who's 16 or a senior who's working at a grocery store, and now they're having to determine whether a granola bar is actually a candy and doesn't fit into that.
So
I think, you know, obviously, we're not in favor of this, you know, we have made that really clear.
But I think we need to really think about the grocers too and how they're going to be impacted in this.
We're talking with Jackie Anderson.
She's the executive director of Feeding America Wisconsin, feedingwi.org.
The grocery stores are a really good point because I think they do have to be a little bit of a factor in this and the grocery prices.
Are these benefits and the criteria that we're talking about, are they really keeping pace with any of the real cost of food that we're seeing not only in Wisconsin but across the country?
Well, I think there's a couple different things in what you just said there.
I think the six dollars a day is absolutely not not aligned with what inflation looks like right now.
But I do think, you know, the grocers are doing their best to make sure that they keep things at a minimum level.
But, you know, inflation is high.
And when you're looking at things like tariffs and other things that are being implemented, like everything is a factor.
Jackie, this
All these changes were on a very short timeline between the time they were approved and the time you were expected and Wisconsin was expected to put them into effect.
Wisconsin was part of a 20-state lawsuit against the administration.
What was the basis of that lawsuit?
What were the rules that you were really trying to go after and how did that play out?
So I think what you're talking about is the lawsuit around sharing data with the USDA.
So that would mean that anyone who's a SNAP recipient would be, their data would be shared with USDA.
So that too, Feeding Wisconsin has, you know, we're advocating on behalf of not doing that, of course.
But I think it is.
We'll see what happens around that.
There's a lot of states that are very against this just for privacy's sake alone, and we will continue to push back on it.
If someone's listening today and they're worried about losing benefits or they know that they're maybe going to lose benefits with some of these new guidelines, Jackie, what options do people realistically have right now if they're faced with potentially losing what little
money they're getting from the government for food.
Yeah, one of the things that I would recommend is still try to continue your benefits and talk to Department of the DHS.
You can go to the website.
I'm happy to share that with you afterwards because there are those exemptions that I talked about earlier.
And a lot of times people don't necessarily think that they meet an exemption and they do.
And that's part of why we're advocating on behalf of keeping that quality control level really high when we're looking at the application
process because there are people who are trained.
They understand what an application, what some of the barriers might be.
They're really trained in working with people.
So I think don't throw your hands up and say, I'm not going to be no longer eligible, but at least go onto the DHS website and talk to someone because they're trained to help.
Jackie there's still people in this is I know outdated thinking but you mentioned before how many different people now are coming to food banks and and Trying to get help.
There's still people though who need that help and who would be eligible for that help who Have an outdated notion of pride.
I'm now I can't accept charity even if even if my family's struggling I can't accept charity What would you say to those people to to hopefully change their mind and get some necessities into their hands?
Yeah, I think it's everybody is struggling right now.
I mean, really, groceries are so incredibly expensive right now that there is no shame.
If you do have shame and we know that that happens, many, many pantries have what's called a proxy.
So if you feel uncomfortable going to a food pantry, you can tell someone else to pick up on your behalf and then they can bring the food back to you.
So, you know, we understand and we don't want that to be a barrier for people to access food that they so desperately need.
have that
I
you as we get
We do.
So this is Jackie Anderson.
She is the executive director of Feeding America Wisconsin.
You can check out that website.
It is feedingwi.org.
And again,
the link to DHS.
If you are worried about your SNAP benefits and you're worried about eligibility, we will put that in our show notes.
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That was AJR, which that last sentence, I don't know what it means.
Is that right?
That's who they
All right.
And why are we playing AJR?
That seems like an odd choice for
It would be a little bit of an odd choice, except for the fact that they are going to be at the Wisconsin State Fair this August.
And you can find them on the Bank 5-9 main stage by grabbing your tickets when they go on sale this Friday, 10 a.m.
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That sounds too easy.
8 a.m.
8 p.m.
8 a.m.
Whatever.
They're ripping us
off for tickets as they used to say back in the day.
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I look forward to the fair every year.
I have a good time, of course,
wandering around.
I love cream puff.
That pavilion is insane.
I also like the, in the kind of the big exhibition
hall where they have
all the little stands and all the little things.
I wander around there.
I've gotten everything from summer sausage to cuff links in that exhibition hall.
And I'm not exaggerating.
They
have...
They have a every year I look forward to this one place that makes his summer sausage.
It's great.
And then I got a pair of Spider-Man and a pair of Captain America cufflinks
and
another one of their stores.
So are the little stands.
And I got a couple, of course, Wisconsin State Fair Christmas ornaments and another one.
I must sucker for that kind of stuff.
I think it's great that you got it there when you could order it at home any time.
how they get you.
But
I was gonna
Listen, as a guy who didn't grow up in an agricultural community, I am enthralled by walking around the Dairy Pavilion.
It's a blast.
wanted to see in these hogs that are...
Mammoth just just gigantic and I'm like and all they I don't know how they ever walk because every time I see
pavilion They're laying down.
that makes more sense because you weigh like 8,000.
Well, you're from South
for a very short
my
That's, no, I, listen, if I had grown up somewhere where there was a big state fair, I would have done all that kind
fun.
I spend, and this is embarrassing, I spend an inordinate amount of time at the dog diving exhibition.
I
will sit
and watch those dogs jump
water for hours.
I'll just, and it's fascinating.
And
little judgmental, my dogs will
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The Guthrie family, we're into the third week.
Things are not looking good, in my opinion, but they did.
The sheriff came out yesterday and explicitly said everyone in the Guthrie family has been cleared as a suspect.
To say otherwise is not only hurtful and wrong, but it is hampering the case.
And so, yes, there is everybody in that family, siblings.
Spouses of siblings everybody is clear.
Yeah, the president warned came out yesterday and said whoever's responsible face the most severe consequences if Guthrie is not returned safely possibly including the death penalty which as you can imagine is not helpful because they want Nancy Guthrie returned or at least some actual reputable information Harry Levin over from TMZ says that he received yet another letter Whether or not that's verified or not.
He's working
with
Yeah,
They're looking at DNA and some gloves.
point.
Hey, Birkebinder's coming up.
We'll have a preview after this.
And I'm Brian Noonan.
Thanks for being with us this morning.
All right.
All eyes next week will turn north.
We will be looking at the American Birkenbeiner, the race that has started off very tiny.
years ago, and now has become a global event.
Greg Gunderson joins us this morning.
He is the Morning Show host and associate production director at 98Q Country in Park Falls.
He covers the Birkenbrenner extensively, and so we have decided that we need to pick his brain.
Greg, thanks for being here.
We appreciate it, man.
Thank you for having me, Brian, and good morning, Jamie.
It's good to be here.
We are glad.
Here's the most important question, Greg.
Everybody's excited to get all the details, but
How's the snow and what's the forecast for next week?
Because everybody remembers a couple years ago when people were cross-country skiing in mud.
So how's it looking?
It's looking better than it was a couple years ago, Brian, but I will say there is at least some small concern with the temperatures approaching what they are currently at least on this weekend's forecast.
That said, you got to remember that they've developed a plan for almost no snow.
And what you're referencing a couple years ago with the mud,
the amount of snow that they generated at the time, they actually made a loop track that
was
capable of hosting the number of racers and races necessary, which we're talking about tens of thousands of racers over the track over the course of that weekend.
So even if everything melts by the end of tomorrow, okay, I'm not saying from a cold start, they'd be able to make that much snow, but they're able to pull off some pretty impressive things.
I actually wouldn't be surprised, Brian, if they're banking on and forgive me, no pun intended, they might be building some snow banks.
in in anticipation
of this
So the Birkenbiter brings thousands of people to this area, which isn't huge in population.
And as somebody who's watched this event over the course of your life, what's it like to suddenly share your community with the entire world, Gray, because essentially you will be sharing it with the world over the next few days.
It's so difficult to draw a parallel, Jamie, because unless you're from a small town which hosts a high volume event,
you've never lived somewhere.
And hey, even if you've been to Monaco in the summer, or if you've even been to the Berkabiner or the Lumberjack competition that happens here in the Northwoods, right here in Hayward, same town is, well, same area as the Berkabiner.
It's really difficult to appreciate the effect it has.
I think the closest thing that a large number of people might be able to hold up as a yardstick is a Packer game.
especially about 10 or 15 years ago before Titletown was really developed and everything within a couple hundred yards of the parking lot was Grandma's house.
Like if you if you were at Lambo up until about 2010-2012, like there was this feeling like that's right there.
Who did this?
It felt like a little kid had designed the structure of Green Bay.
That's kind of what it feels like.
There's just there's no parking.
There's no seat at any table at a restaurant, but everybody's in this fantastic mood because much like that Packer game, it's the lifeblood of the economy for that entire span.
And it has effects.
You know, people are in a better mood for two or three weeks after the Berkey, both because it's been there and because it's over.
It's a lot of energy spent.
Great.
For those of us who came to Wisconsin later in life, other than just traveling through, what's the history of the Berkebeiner?
Because
I learned it once I got here how what a huge deal it is not just for the Hayward area but for the entire state but for the uninitiated.
Where did this start and how did it go?
I mentioned from a small group to this worldwide event.
Brian, we could go back to the 1970s when a local hero up in the Northwoods decided that he wanted to commemorate a historical event with a ski trip that forgive the pun again.
I'm afraid they're inevitable.
It's snowballed into what we see today slowly over time as tension as attention was built to it, especially as people realize that the snow up here and the weather are incredibly conducive to some offseason skiing to some people, depending where you're from in the world.
And that's the thing.
They're coming from the world.
over.
But really, you want to ask where it started?
The year was 1174.
And we're looking at the Norwegian Civil War.
I'm not even kidding here.
Berkebeiner refers to birch bark leggings that were worn by some Norwegian soldiers.
And those soldiers were skiing down a mountain with a baby prince in their arms trying to save him from the Civil War.
That was, there was basically another group coming to get him.
That was the Civil War.
And they made it.
They, they skied through the mountains with a baby and that
Baby went on to become the next king of Norway and ended that very civil war.
So there's a pretty cool story.
Pages and pages long you can find on your favorite search engine.
I think
know, people would go, because I knew back to the 70s.
I was like, oh, that's where, now I'm going back to the 1100s and the Civil War.
It's great.
It's actually, it's a major piece of history in the country of Norway that they touch on, too.
We are borrowing the race from them.
There have been Berkebiners.
There are multiple Berkebiners, and in fact, there's kind
of a world circuit and there are athletes who do this and specifically try to do it in all the different countries that do it.
There's a name for that and there's a, you know, it's kind of like climbing the 10 tallest peaks.
There's a, there's a mark of pride and everything but the sash that the Boy Scouts wear for completing these kinds of races.
He's the Associate Production Director of 98Q Country in Park Falls.
We're talking about the Burkabiner.
Now, you mentioned a little bit about the local economy, Gray, and the influx of people that come in.
So what does this mean for the local businesses, for the people on Main Street, the restaurants, the hotels, shop?
Does this become sort of make or break weekend for some of these businesses in the area?
Yes, yes in a way because it's it's not that the business can't survive without it, but suddenly There is no real backup plan necessarily and the only option after you know if there was a theoretical non-berkabiner year The only option would be to scramble to find some way to deal with that and I'm immediately reminded of you know We were talking of a couple years ago when there was so little snow and they had to do that that loop trail and generate the snow like that It would be a major economic event and I'm glad to say we don't necessarily know
how big of an impact it would have because as these towns I'm afraid
towns the size of Hayward 2500 or so and in counties like Sawyer, they're not on the rise these last 10 years or so.
Unless there's industry moving in, it's stuff like this that's really buoying them.
So unless you've got something like a high school sports team that gets a lot of attention and a claim and you know, we're just not in that kind of area, these are huge.
So it's, it's, you've got the trails that are the lifeblood of the local economy because they keep the people flowing in and out and it's something unique, you know, you can drive through any town, you can't
TV through every town.
So go north woods on that count.
Snowmobiles in the winter.
And if either one of those is missing, it's like half the year is just lopped off of the revenue stream.
So again, the Birkebeiner is just one weekend.
But I'd say for some businesses, it might be as much as five to 10% of their annual income.
Wow.
You mentioned it's the one weekend.
Tell us some of the other events because there's the big race that's on Saturday.
But then events start you've got open track on Wednesday and other things that happen on Thursday So give folks a highlight if they if they are going to try to make it up there to to the weekend
First of all, there's no wrong way to do it because just like you said, Brian, there are events going on at all times, usually in the week leading up to the Berkey.
That's been changing a little bit as COVID challenged the system.
And of course, again, that's snowless winter a couple of years ago.
So different events have kind of been on the rise, but you can see things happening right in the downtown streets of Hayward, like the giant ski competition.
One of my personal favorites, you get four people on two skis locked together.
Think of the, you know, those old village people, imitators that would have
have like mannequins on poles, kind of looks like that, but give them all free will and they fall over a lot more.
There's also some more competitive events, things like Ski Jor, which I think a lot of people would love if they knew about it.
One person, one dog, one rope, two skis.
Go, go fast and good luck.
So the dog's pulling you or you're pulling your dog?
Well, hopefully the dogs are pulling you on the skis.
You know, I thought I gave you a pretty clear picture there, but I see now that I was lacking some detail.
No, but
no, no, no, because you're right.
I didn't know about that.
But now it sounds like something.
How did I miss this my entire life?
I want I'm going to take my
skis.
Yeah,
you.
Yeah, but then when I get reported to the ASPCA, there's
dark of night in a forest
Well, I'll tell you what, anybody who's ever planned a project or more specifically an event understands that anytime you're gathering more than about 10 or 15 people in a space for more than about an hour, you start having to plan things like food and facilities and bathrooms.
And I mean, these are athletes.
These are world tier athletes.
And yes, they bring their own supporting cast.
But I mean, think of it, the business owners are running their businesses, the town and the Chamber of Commerce are doing what they can to kind of fill in the gaps that, you know, the streets are busy and occupied.
a lot of work that needs to be done, excuse me, needs to be done just to keep things running normally.
So I'll tell you what, they're normally aren't porta-potties on the streets of Hayward, but not only are they there right now, they're busy and necessary, and I don't want to know what it would be like without them.
So, oh jeez.
It's it's the kind of things I mean, you know a lot of us up here will think man I know these people coming up from it's often Illinois gets a little bit of the hard reputation for it But a lot of these people want to come on up here But they don't want to do the work to keep the businesses open and that's not quite true The people that come up are fantastic and many of them would pitch right in that's what's happening Everybody has to pitch in or the the town quite literally wouldn't be capable of hosting an event with this many people It's hard to put a finger on what exactly everybody does.
It's it's everything
Well, let's play off that logistics a little bit because you mentioned 2,500 people in Hayward.
We know when the draft was, the NFL draft was happening in Green Bay, people were staying all over the state.
I can't imagine there's a ton of luxury hotels and things in that area.
So where do people, if they want, if they're one, coming in to compete and two, if they're just coming up to visit and observe and enjoy the Berke weekend,
Where do people stay?
How do they how do they get then into town and to the track and just logistically it sounds
just
But as far as accommodations go, I'll tell you what, Brian.
It is the middle of February, 2026.
The hotels in the area are booked probably into 2028 for this time in coming years, just because there's that much advanced need given the availability.
So what you're seeing is people spreading
You're seeing people in the neighboring county one thing that there's a lot of polarizing feelings on the idea of Airbnb moving in and taking up some property ownership We won't get political, but I'll tell you what people are really glad for Airbnb on a month like this It sure they are it is it's kind of like think of it like the reserve force of lodging
You know, if you, you don't need it all the time and it can be used for other things, but hey, when we need it, call in the extras and Airbnb.
Cool.
Grandma's house looks pretty good for that skier from Norway.
People will pay 50,000 to sleep in a shed.
They don't care.
As
else if I can't make it up the up there the 18th to the 22nd for the Berkabiner You can always get all the information Berkey comm is where you get all the information about the Berkey
It sounds like we got to get there one of these days.
Greg Gunderson is the morning host of the associate production director at 98Q Country and Park Falls.
He's a Civic Media team member.
Greg, we appreciate your time today.
Thanks a lot and have fun.
Have fun next weekend with all these new porta-potties all over the streets.
Hey, they're not my problem.
Thank you guys.
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We just heard from Greg Gunderson talking, and my first question was about the conditions.
Well, if you are in the northernmost part of Wisconsin, if you are up in...
Douglas, Douglas County up that way.
Man, you could be in, you could be in trouble because there's a winter storm.
Which are storm warning up to eight inches of snow 40 miles an hour winds in Douglas and Bayfield counties possible.
Yeah
listening to us up there Which
Did it funny in some area?
They're probably praying for the snow up there.
Right.
And we're praying that the 60-degree days stay.
It just depends on where you are.
But when we talk to Graham, we talk to other people from the North Woods, boy, those businesses really need this time of year to be snowy.
They really do.
I mean, their livelihood up in that area depends on the outdoor activities, right?
So you're looking at not only really nice weather that brings people in in the spring and the summer months, but then in the winter months, especially when you're talking about an event like the Birkenbeiner, you're really hoping for those fabulous winter conditions even when the rest of us don't want them at all.
Keep them up
north.
Listen, if you're in Douglas and Bayfield County, good luck to you.
I hope you...
You know, you're prepared.
See, that's the thing.
If you live in those areas, you're prepared for these kind of things because the snow comes off like superior and you're buried, you know, all the time.
Right.
You're just used to it.
It's like if you live in Buffalo and you're surprised by the snow, you're really not paying attention.
Right.
Exactly.
But this leads us all to a good point when we're talking about winter weather, right?
Because there's a new, there's an online platform for booking fishing trips around the world.
And it's called Fishing Bookers.
And they just put out their 2026 list of 10 best ice fishing destinations in the United States.
And it happens to include one right here in Wisconsin, maybe up by Lovely Green Bay or so.
Before you, before you mentioned that, I would like people to explore
to me because I understand the allure of fishing off a dock or a boat in the spring and summer.
It sounds lovely and I'm not, I honestly don't understand.
So this is not a criticism.
This is genuine curiosity.
What is the allure of ice fishing?
And I'm not talking about the people who build like a condo that
they
drag out on the ice because that I want if you're a one of those bucket ice fishermen
You
know who I mean you turn
over that orange
Home Depot bucket and you're just sitting there with an auger and you make a little hole and you're at the you're just on an open lake I Don't I don't understand it
I'm not, I'm not saying it's good or bad.
I don't understand it.
If you could explain the allure of that to me, 855-75 Civic, 855-7524842.
And while you're at it, after you make that phone call, then go to the Civic Media app and text the word win because you can get some AJR tickets before they go on sale on Friday.
So, okay, sorry about that,
honestly,
don't understand.
And then he literally either had like a lawn chair or he turned over the bucket.
That's what my dad did.
Now, I will say I am not a great Fisher person.
I know that there's a lot of people who love it.
There's this whole thing about complete stillness, so you don't scare the
fish.
No, it's very difficult,
But if you're into that kind of thing, apparently you gotta be in Green Bay if you want to do some ice fishing in Wisconsin, because according to the Fisher Booker list, people who ice fish on the frozen Green Bay can catch whitefish, walleye, and northern pike.
The surrounding area has plenty of entertainment as well, which is what makes them a top spot for a little ice fishing.
Now, in addition to Green Bay, Fisher Booker's list of top ice fishing destinations for this year includes
lakes all over the country, including Oneida Lake in New York to Brainerd, Minnesota's chain of lakes.
Oh, have you ever been to the chain of lakes?
I have not.
Beautiful, beautiful area.
You will not regret a trip to the chain of lakes.
It also includes great areas like Great Granby in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado as well.
So a lot of different areas if you love to ice fish, I think is interesting.
Brett texts in from Kiwani, and he explains it to me.
He says, fish taste better out of cold water.
I will take your word for it,
That's it.
Somebody else.
New Berlin.
Who or what is AJR?
Dave?
Legit question.
One that I asked at seven o'clock as well.
Yes.
Jamie, who again is AJ on?
using hit ironically?
You
go to... You
want to win tickets to concert with a lot of high school girls,
know.
Text win you could
feel fine.
All right Listen you go to the civic media app you text to win you text the word win and maybe you make your your teenage daughter they the Envy of all her friends
when her parent one of her parents takes her to see AJ
you can take her to the
fair and you can go sit in the beer tent while she's in and listen to the agent.
I'll meet you here by the funnel cakes.
You know,
tent.
I could just be in the beer tent, having
to the music.
This is true.
And I'm Brian Noonan.
Have a great day.
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