Chips and Chops (Hour 2)

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Chips and Chops (Hour 2)

Civic Media Mornings · Thu Feb 5, 2026

Kathryn Lake

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All right, here's the question.

Where do you get your news?

We know you get it here on Civic Media.

We try to give you the facts as we can research them.

But, you know, people watch the news.

I still, I still, and this will shock the boy aquarium, I still like to watch the nightly news.

My local news, I watch David Muir on the network.

And I like to read the papers.

Now, I go online versions of the paper.

But when you think of big news organizations in this country, the New York Times, of course, the paper of record, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal,

And then you then you move into all your local papers and those used to be the bastions of journalism You know when you when you heard the Washington Post you thought oh Woodward and Bernstein these guys are breaking Watergate the investigative reporting is there we can trust the news that comes out of here because those are journalists who have devoted their whole life to this and There are still journalists who are devoting their whole lives to it.

Unfortunately the places where they comply their trade

are shrinking.

And yesterday the Washington Post became another one of those places because they laid off roughly one in three employees yesterday and marked one of the most severe cutbacks in the newspaper's history.

It pushed an already strained newsroom to the breaking point.

Jamie, this is it's sad news when you know economics

If

that's all it

is.

I don't believe it is.

I don't believe it is at all because Jeff Bezos, we saw this during the election when he refused to publish his editorial board's opinion of who people should vote for and essentially pulled the endorsement for Kamala Harris from the people who wrote it on his staff.

He has been towing the line of politics versus...

Staying alive in essentially I mean he's he's a billionaire But I'm saying staying alive as far as the media verse goes and who wants to

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draw the

who wants to rile up the president and have him go after you that's

Nobody wants that right now, right?

So no, I don't believe that this had to do with the economics of it all, even though that's what they're going to say.

And what I also love is Jeff Bezos is no better than anybody else in corporate media.

The employees learned of the cuts after being told to stay home while the layoff

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notices

were being sent.

And that followed weeks of warning, though, that deep reductions were coming.

In fact, the executive editor, his name is Matt Murray, he acknowledged the scope of the cuts in an internal

was saying that nearly all news departments were being affected.

And it really did, Brian, affect a lot.

It took a whack out of most of the pair.

The sports section is almost non-existent anymore.

And who doesn't?

When you were little, it was the funnies and the sports section.

Of course.

And that's how a lot of people learned to read is by looking at their parents' newspaper and going, oh, what did the Badgers do last night?

Right, exactly.

Here's the thing I'll say, while this is sad happening on the national level to a news organization, as you said, a bastion on the hill, while this is sad happening to this organization, this has already been happening on your local level.

for years.

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And there

are certain newspapers in the country and certain areas that absolutely do not have any sort of actual local news coming to them from reporters in that area.

And Wisconsin is one of the prime areas where this is happening.

There are places in this state that literally have a newspaper office that's open for two hours twice a week.

That's

it.

Yeah.

And if you go to the websites of some of these papers, you go, oh, they all look the same.

Yes, because they're all owned by the same company.

Right.

You're getting a majority of the same news.

The small papers, like you were mentioning, Jamie, have either gone away or are reprinting stuff from wire services and maybe something about a local board meeting, maybe.

Right.

It's hard to find...

Good journalism and I know this administration has been talking, you know and in the first term too fake news It was the thing and that's all that's another gaslighting move to try to sow doubt in your mind about what you're seeing and anything I don't agree with his fake and so it's hard and Jeff Bezos wants to

maintain that relationship he has with the White House.

Now, I want to ask you, Jamie, you've worked in newsrooms before.

You've been a journalist for a long time.

Is access more important than ethics?

That seems to be the question I keep having.

When I watch these reporters allow Caitlyn Collins

to be dressed down.

When I see the other journalists allow the president to call somebody a little piggy on a plane, when they dare to ask a question.

I know as a news organization, you want access.

We saw when AP had to fight when they were going to be thrown out because AP, one of the most non-biased news organizations you could ever ask for, they were going to get tossed because they asked

questions and the president didn't like that.

The administration didn't like that.

So my question is, is access more important than

ethics?

I will say that obviously I've been in news for quite some time.

I go back to the early 2000s when I started my career and ended up producing my first 5 p.m.

newscast.

I think it's changed.

Ethics used to be the most important.

Ethics were absolutely where you drew the line.

I can honestly say that the GM, who hired me right out of college, I had no business producing a 5 p.m.

show.

He saw something in me, he gave me that slot.

He would not have ever.

ever, even though he could be an abysmal human being, he would have never allowed one of his reporters, female or male, to be dressed down by any official like that.

And he would have told us that it was not worth covering if that was going to happen to us.

I can honestly say that because it actually happened to us in the city that I was producing news.

He actually pulled us from that beat and said, until they can treat you with respect, we will not be covering that anymore.

I have a lot of-

The danger there, and I admire that, moved by him.

The danger in this situation, in the current situation, is if, where do we draw the line?

If nobody is watching, we see what they're doing when everybody's watching.

So if nobody's watching, but at the same point, if we're watching as casual bystanders instead of actively trying to get to the bottom of things or pointing out the illegalities.

And I think that's where the switch came.

I think that's where the switch came from the ethics to the access because news is also competing with the social media world, right?

We have somebody over on our socials right now who's watching us, pointing out that anyone with a camera or a Wi-Fi connection can report the news, the more sensational it is, the more viral it will go.

And that's exactly what's happening because in my opinion anyway, news is

being forced to take a different turn than it's ever had to because people are going to social media and things are being more sensationalized.

So it changes what, where the ethics go because, you know, you mentioned it during Watergate.

Can you imagine Bernstein like getting dressed down by the president and then, no, he wouldn't, and they wouldn't have also never stopped covering it because the president got upset.

They would have never

stopped.

Because Nixon was furious at everybody.

Right.

And they did.

they didn't care, they kept investigating the story.

And by the way, Congress also did their job in that too, but I digress.

Well, let's

not,

why drag Congress into an argument?

Let's do, we were talking about papers and we'll get, let's, Dick has been hanging on,

he's in

Madison, he called 85575 Civic.

Dick, welcome to the show.

Guys, you just hammered it out of the park, got small papers across the state, across the country.

collapsing are the reason we're in the mess we're in, in my opinion.

I mean, it's quite obvious.

And, you know, where do I get most of my news?

I love the stuff you're talking about, New York Times,

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Wall

Street Journal.

I watch pretty much MSNBC, and they brought over a guy, oh, from AP, Jonathan Lamere, years back, who asked Trump a question during that Helsinki debacle is in first term.

And

He's one of the better people it's on in the morning, in my opinion.

And AP out, like you said, it's nothing but just straight up fat.

Yeah.

Thank you so much this morning.

Well

listen, we like MSNBC, but we'd rather you listen in to us, Dick.

We appreciate the call.

Yes.

Thanks very much for doing that.

So it's this quandary that we're in where do we risk as journalists

Being being banished mm-hmm Or do we just stand there and watch and I have to imagine the other reporters in that room Who have any sort of ethical compass are watching the president talk to people like this and realizing?

One it seems to be mostly directed at female reporters mm-hmm and two it is just out of the realm of

Normal decorum.

Nobody talks to people like that, let alone the president of the United States talking to an accredited member of the free press.

What I think is interesting is that...

nobody else is calling it out.

This happened during the first administration and what I think is troubling and sad and frustrating, especially if you've been in this business long enough, is that we have become okay with it.

We've been okay with him dressing down a female reporter.

We've become okay with him calling a female reporter Piggy.

Now, we talk about it in the sense that as soon as it happened and everybody brings it up,

But what's actually, nobody's actually doing anything about it.

Nobody's actually taking the time to say, you know, this is not, we're not going to continue to report on the things that you're doing or air your words until you can address us.

And I honestly, I don't think it would matter with this administration.

I think that's probably what they want because they want their chosen networks, the more right wing leaning networks to come in and cover the news.

And.

I understand

that.

If nobody points out that the emperor has no clothes, the emperor can do whatever they want.

That's right.

And that's basically where we're at when now we've got journalists being arrested.

Yes.

It is

as somebody who's been in, I'm not a newsman by any stretch of imagination, but I have hosted talk shows for decades talking about things.

because I know I am free to talk about

things.

I can read the newspaper knowing this is not state.

Right.

Information or disinformation being pushed down my throat.

Right.

We've got Al over on our text line listening on WMDX as the AP today is what Walter Cronkite was back in the day.

Yeah.

I mean, I think that's probably the most accurate.

Because

you can trust, you can trust AP and everybody, everybody trusted Walter

Cronkite.

Right.

And you know, this is why I think local media is so important going back to that point.

You gotta get your facts.

You gotta know what's happening on your local level because that's where the real impact in your life is going to come.

We have to be informed and without that local media, it becomes really, really difficult and dangerous.

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I

like

that

idea.

We can do it on Friday.

It's kind of decompressed.

Just a montage of all of our favorites.

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And I'm Brian Noonan.

Here's a question for you at 855-75 Civic, 855-752-4842.

And yes, I don't know why I framed it by telling you it's a question.

I'm going to ask and you're going to hear the inflection in my voice.

And in your mind, you will see the question mark at the end of the sentence.

But...

How do you feel about this idea of nationalizing our elections?

We've been talking about it for the last few days, which again This is not new something we never thought we'd have to talk about but we do good news and Listen, I don't throw Ron Johnson flowers very often Usually I hold the bouquet and think about striking people with them, but today I'm gonna throw him a couple flowers

partial.

They're going to be little.

It's not the whole bouquet.

You might get one or two.

Because Ron Johnson has said that he disagrees with the president and his suggestion that Republicans should nationalize elections.

He made these comments during a telephone town hall yesterday or Tuesday, rather, when he was asked about the president's recent remarks on that.

That's a nice start.

Yes.

Yes, it is.

And let me be the first to say that it won't shock anybody that I listened to the entire hour and a half town hall, just to see what he had to say.

Because there were conversations about multiple subjects in this, coming from constituents, coming from reporters.

So he was really forced to answer.

There were a couple of times when, as we were talking about, if you joined us last segment about media, where he essentially dressed down some of the female reporters.

That's

becoming way too normalized.

It is.

It really truly is.

But what I found interesting is that, you know, if you've been following along, Trump said that a Republican should take over voting in at least 15 places.

So far, he hasn't specified which states or municipalities.

He's repeated these unfounded claims that undocumented immigrants were being brought to the U.S.

to vote, despite voting being limited to U.S.

citizens.

Like you actually have to be a U.S.

citizen.

order to cast a vote, but facts, I digress.

Johnson said that he does not support federal control of elections, but favors basic national standards like citizenship requirements over voter ID.

This was his quick response yesterday, cut three, please.

That was pretty much all he said.

Okay.

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It was

short.

It was short.

But it was very much out of line with what the president so far has been saying he would like to do.

Now, he did go on in this particular town hall, Brian, to criticize Wisconsin's early in-person absentee voting saying that the state has gone way too far by allowing people who don't have access immediately to polls or are disabled or senior citizens.

We have allowed them way too much power in this state to cast a vote.

and darn those drop boxes, darn them.

They've ruined the whole thing.

The fact that now more people can cast a vote, that's not how this system was set up.

One person, one vote, that's hogwash.

One person, one vote, if you can get off of work during this particular day and find out what school or church or gymnasium that your polling place is and navigate all of that and then get there.

Yeah, come on.

I used to be one of these guys who waited till election day.

I was very staunch.

I waited till election day.

I didn't care what anybody else did if they needed to vote early, whatever.

Now it's so convenient, which is why I'm so amazed that voter turnout is still so low.

They couldn't make it easier for us to vote.

I think last election I went like three or four days before election day.

I strolled right in.

Bang, I voted and you know what?

I didn't even worry.

I got the receipt.

I saw it counted in the machine.

I knew my vote counted and I walked out happy.

Put on my sticker.

There's no reason to make voting harder.

There's no reason for it.

Voting is a right that we have as U.S.

citizens.

It should not be made harder.

But

Jamie, what if people vote against me?

If it's too easy to vote against me, that doesn't seem...

like a good idea.

It's not, it's not.

He needed a participation trophy a couple times in life, I think.

Len over on our text line from Madison saying, well, our monetary system is nationalized.

How has that turned out?

Well, I

don't think you, I think it's a false equivalency.

I don't think you agree.

I'll do this back.

I

don't think that doesn't, that doesn't wash.

There's a difference and

You know, yes, the monetary system was set up so we could go from state to state.

We don't want to be going to another country.

Also, I would refer you back to a document called the Constitution.

and I know we keep hammering

on the Constitution.

It's like I'm

studying for, I know,

and I remember in

seventh grade having to take the Constitution test and it'd be like, oh

my God.

It's just in the way.

It's just in the way.

It's amazing what happens when judges follow the Constitution and true attorneys follow the Constitution.

Can't we just do what we want?

It is totally in the way.

Now, by the way, Senate Majority Leader John Thune has also echoed Johnson's stance saying he is not in favor of federalizing elections due to

What is it?

Constitutional concerns, by the way.

So, funny.

What are those... What does the Constitution say?

What kind of authority over elections?

Who has that authority?

The states.

According to the U.S.

Constitution, states have the authority over elections, though Congress can set certain regulations.

But it is the states.

that run their elections.

Hey, it's why you have local election offices, why you have people who election poll workers.

That is why, because the states are in charge and each precinct is also in charge of their election under the state jurisdiction.

That is how this works.

This is... It really bothers me

when people... That doesn't

seem... I get really upset when we start talking about...

just dismantling the Constitution because you can't do it.

based on a whim and what suits your needs.

There's a process that even is in place to dismantle certain amendments or add certain amendments, so I get really upset.

But, Jamie, listen, I feel

there is

a lot of fraud or fraud, so we need to usurp the Constitution.

Well, we'll just start searching all the warehouses.

It's fine.

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I don't even know if we're going to need this information, because we don't know if we're going to have elections in November.

But as of today, there are midterm elections

scheduled.

And there's elections that could throw the balance of power in the U.S.

Senate from...

Republican-held control to Democratic, because it is rather thin at this point.

It is.

The Republicans hold a very, very small lead in the House.

They have 53 seats in the Senate.

And so, Jamie, you have found and deciphered through all your meticulous research, races that may decide control of the Senate.

And it's not just...

like we've been talking a lot about and people have been theorizing that while it could be a blue tsunami

it

could rolling through but there's some places where that may not be as easy as we hope

so let's be very clear here the map the election map is very republican friendly and so which could could potentially outweigh any sort of difficult political environment

for the Republicans and some of the current actions from the Trump administration.

So this map actually makes some of this a bit of a steep climb, because the Democrats would need to flip four different seats to take control of the Senate.

And Democrats are defending key seats currently in Georgia and Michigan, both states that the president won in 2024, while their best pickup opportunities happen to be in Maine and North Carolina.

Now, party leaders are saying that they must win all four to have a realistic shot at the majority, also meaning that

They have to make that pickup and they can't lose any.

So that's going to be a little trickier than everybody thinks.

And I get the blue tsunami talk, but we also have to look at it in a little bit more realistic terms if you're somebody who likes to follow these things.

So Republicans are betting.

Do

we know anybody like that?

Just maybe a few.

So Republicans are betting the map and Trump's policy agenda is going to carry them through.

Democrats really hoping that there's voter frustration over the economy and cost of living issues are giving them a little bit momentum.

Now polling shows that Democratic voters currently are more motivated, although Republicans face a bit of a similar challenge, turning out the Trump aligned voters without his name on the ballot.

And if you were listening to the.

the first hour we actually talked about that

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in

regards to J. D. Vance and his popularity within the party.

Now, beyond the top tier races, Democrats really see longer shot opportunities in places like, which I find fascinating, Alaska, Ohio, Texas, and even Iowa.

Republicans will be defending those open seats and also navigating some really high stakes primaries of their own.

Nine months ago.

Just nine months ago, which, I mean, nine months ago, think back to nine months ago.

I can't even remember what I was doing nine months ago.

That's how crazy life has been.

It

was like May?

Right, yeah, something like that.

Spring, it was nice.

Jesus, that's when I started here.

Yes.

So both parties, nine months ago, agreed that the economy will be the dominant issue.

That was just nine months ago.

Turnout, though, candidate quality and unexpected events could ultimately decide control of the Senate.

Now... Are

you, Jamie, when you say cost of living in the economy, are you talking about affordability because I've heard that's a made-up term?

Well, yes, and tariffs don't exist, or they don't actually affect you.

It's fine.

I mean, these are things that we're being told to watch.

Now, if you're somebody who pays attention to elections and, you know, becomes kind of like your Super Bowl...

All present company probably included in that.

There is some key toss up stuff.

I love elections.

They're just so awesome.

I

know.

I get so nerdy and so excited about these things.

But there are

some.

No, I'm glad you do.

Because then we can glom onto some of your knowledge.

Right.

So when we look at the key toss up states, let's talk about Georgia really quickly.

Democratic Senator John Ossoff is seeking re-election.

Again, a state that Trump carried in 2024.

strong fundraiser, he's charismatic, he is campaigning on economic and healthcare issues.

Republicans are facing a contested primary there with candidates closely aligning themselves with the Trump agenda.

If you go to Maine, oh, Senator Susan Collins, she's still clutching her pearls up there telling us that she's all but concerned.

Yeah, and she is seeking reelection in a state that has voted against Trump three different times.

Now, occasionally we've seen her break with him and then

back to him and still support the GOP agenda.

But national Republicans, you can tell that her seat is in trouble and watch what seats the Republicans invest the most time and money in.

Hers is one of them because they're obviously worried about democratic competition.

Democrats are divided between an establishment favorite though, Governor Janet Mills, who I believe is 78 years old at this point.

She's 78, I believe.

I know, but we can't know.

I

know.

No, I'm sorry.

But she has a progressive challenger.

She has a progressive challenger, Graham Plattner, who is, he is coming on strong.

And so obviously,

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as you

can imagine, that is making a little angst in the Democratic traditional ranks.

In Michigan, there is an open seat following Senator Gary Peter's retirement, and he has triggered a competitive Democratic primary.

Republicans are backing the former representative.

of Mike Rogers, who has Trump's full endorsement.

Now we've seen.

in the last couple

backfires.

I would not

want I would not want

to be a

candidate and receive the president's full endorsement.

Right.

In North Carolina, the Democrats are seeing their best pickup chance.

This is their best pickup chance after Tom Tillis opted not to run again.

Obviously, Tom Tillis not running has given him a backbone.

He's been able to stand up to the administration.

Former Democratic Governor Roy Cooper has entered the race and he has very strong approval ratings.

So

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that

will be one to two.

attention to.

When it comes to the expansion opportunities, as I mentioned, the Democrats are targeting Alaska, interestingly enough.

They have former representative Mary Peltola, who is potentially going to make a run at this.

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The

state though always leans pretty heavily Republican if you pay attention to two past elections.

Now, in Ohio, this is where it gets interesting.

Right?

Because this is a man who actually was in office, lost his seat, and Ohio, of course, the home to Vice President J.D.

Vance.

Former Senator Sherrod Brown is seeking a comeback against GOP Senator John

Hus...

Don't call it a comeback.

You know, I think this one's gonna be interesting because even Ohio is not...

Ohio is, when you watch the polling and I get, take it with a grain of salt, but even Ohio is starting to sour on some of these policies.

And J.D.

Vance is not exactly the most popular guy in his home state.

No, he's

not the favorite son of Ohio.

He's not, is he?

I don't want- I

don't even know if he's from Ohio.

I don't think he is originally, is he?

Like somebody correct me on the text line if I'm wrong.

If you know all the background of JD Vance, please share it with us.

I don't

want to be a JD Vance birther, but I don't know.

I'm not sure.

We don't want to go young

though, right?

I believe so, but if you know anything about JD Vance and you can correct us on the background, please do.

here on The Morning Show.

Iowa also remains really difficult terrain for Democrats.

Trade policy impacts on farmers could factor in.

All right, Frank, our senior producer is, and Parker, our tech producer, saying that he was born in Middletown, Ohio.

So, all right, so he's got the natural birthright.

Nobody's arguing with his birth certificate, right?

Right, he's not a carpetbagger.

Listen, I was not either.

I didn't know.

But still, I do know from much news coverage that he is not beloved.

No.

And our producer, Frank, doesn't like the fact that he went to Ohio

State.

Well, you know.

I mean, is that the... Fuck

that fever.

That should be the only reason we have a dissenting opinion on JD Vance.

Let's be realistic.

No, there's a lot of reasons to...

Hold him in less than high regard.

Now, I will say this, when it comes to these expansion opportunities, I think Iowa is also going to be interesting only because you had Senator Joni Ernst who said she would not run again after she basically told her constituents that they were all gonna die and she was okay with that.

Remember the Medicaid debacle?

That

was beautiful, yes.

Well, we're all gonna die.

Yeah, and there are some really great candidates in Iowa, so I think that's going to be a really interesting race.

I haven't seen, and again, please correct me if I'm wrong, because I did a little digging into this last night.

I couldn't find where anybody in Ohio or Iowa, pardon me, had jumped into...

on the Republican side a full throttle yet for that earned seat.

So if I'm wrong, I want to know about it, and then I get to do a little research of my own.

So please correct me if you know something I don't, at least on the Republican side.

Now, Texas could be competitive depending on the outcome of the GOP and the Democratic primaries.

We already saw just last weekend that a plus 17 Trump district flip.

Uh, in a

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special

election.

So I don't know if I never want to say it because it's Texas, right?

And they are solidly a red voting state.

But at the same time is all of Texas district safe.

Is this why the GOP in Texas is pushing so hard for redistricting to essentially.

Yes.

Rid people of the right to choose their representative because they know in some districts how that's going to go.

I mean, that's what I go back to, right?

Makes sense.

I wanted to, we got a text, this is interesting, and I know you'll find it interesting.

Roger and Steven's Point set us a text, and you can too, 855-75-CIVIC, 855-752-4842.

Roger says he was on a short road trip yesterday, Jamie, and Civic Media Mornings was also on in Wisconsin Rapids.

Yes.

On WFHR, so shout out to Wisconsin Rapids, who is not on my list, but listen, I bet

you're happy to have you.

We are still, we are on.

on the mornings there right now.

So yes, yes.

So it's great, a little area, great town.

And Mark, who lives in Prairie du Saxe says, if I lived in Alaska, I might worry about Trump gifting Alaska to Russia.

Yeah,

maybe

maybe maybe they decide it's not worth the risk and then they vote Democratic for

a

change a little.

So

there's going to be some other races to watch as we go through this midterm cycle.

There's some open seats in Minnesota, New Hampshire.

They're expected to stay democratic, but they're being closely monitored.

We saw that with the conversation of Governor Wall stepping down.

Amy Klobuchar has now thrown her hat into the ring.

You have Tina Smith in Minnesota.

So there's going to be a lot to watch, and then especially with the climate.

There's some high-profile primaries in Kentucky, Illinois, Louisiana, Massachusetts that could

a broader, could signal a broader shift within

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the

parties.

And then with nine months until election day, because yes folks, nine months until election day, both parties are still agreeing that the economy is going to dominate the debate.

But turnout, candidate quality, some late breaking events, because who knows what the Trump administration will do to help out his own party within nine months, could all shift things quite dramatically.

So it's gonna be fun.

Buckle up, folks.

It's going to be a good time.

Super bowl of politics right here.

Prepare for the onslaught

of commercials.

They've already started.

They've already started.

I've been seeing them all

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morning.

748 Civic Media mornings on the Civic Media radio network.

7.52 right now.

You're listening to the Civic Media Radio Network.

This is Civic Media Mornings.

My name is Jamie Martenson.

And I'm Brian Noonan.

Good morning.

What snack are you stocking up for in advance of the big game?

8-5-5-7-5-CIVIC.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Good news.

Some of them will be a little more affordable.

We like that.

Here comes the affordability.

The affordability word, but I don't want to.

Listen, I don't want to sully snack foods and politics.

They need to stay in their own silos to use some corporate speak.

And I I noticed this yesterday.

But the reason I'm bringing this up, Jamie, is because PepsiCo is cutting prices on many of their popular snacks ahead of the Super Bowl.

But they are also saying.

It is not just short term, these are long term price reductions.

Now they're not a lot, maybe 15% on a lot of their products.

But it's stuff like Cheetos, Doritos, Lay's potato chips.

So they know what we need.

So what they essentially know is that in this time of political strife, we need snack foods to help us cope.

And they're making sure that our pocketbooks can handle the amount that we're going to be consuming.

Is that what I'm understanding?

Yes, and I'm wondering where the problem comes in with that.

I am going

to strap on.

I'm going to strap

Doritos on like a feed bag and just wander around to try to dull my senses with all of this that's going on.

So here's an example of the cuts.

An eight and a half ounce bag of Doritos is going to drop from 6.29, which is insane.

It's insane.

to 549, which is just a little mentally disturbed.

Here's my other problem with this.

Okay, you get one of those little eight and a half ounce.

There's like four chips in there.

Why are they charging a dollar a chip?

Because it's by weight not volume.

I don't know how many times you have to read that on the bag.

This is you open a bag.

There's just

dust in here.

That's a lot of dust.

It's very heavy dust.

It's it's weight not volume.

You need the air to cushion theoretically all the chips so that they don't smash and get all crumbly.

And yet you open the bag and all it's in there and you're like, what are we using this as asphalt?

Especially

regular chips.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Tom from Hartford chiming in, listening on WMDX this morning, just says Cheetos, yes.

So I'm going to assume that he is taking, giving us his stance on Cheetos.

I love Cheetos.

They make my fingers orange, though, and you can't eat them without your fingers turning

orange.

Well, all of these Doritos kind of the same thing, not to the

extent

that Cheetos do.

My wife, when she's sick, this is how

We've joked that I am the eye roll husband that I do things when I don't really have to Years and years ago when we first met I my wife told me that when she's sick She loves the puffed Cheetos.

Oh, those are great.

Just the puffed ones.

Yeah

So if she's really sick and

I happen to

be at the store, I bring them home.

That's so nice.

If you don't go to the store, she's got a lot.

Or is it

just me not wanting?

I just don't want to hear her whining.

Well, that

could be that, too.

So if she's

eating Cheetos, she's not whining.

Marriage is always about towing the line.

It's about being that really nice spouse or like, oh, how much longer do I have to listen and do this, right?

And listen to it?

Yes.

Alicia chiming in.

It's the

illusion of being thoughtful and acting in your own self-interest

at the

same

time.

Yes.

Alicia chiming in over on our text.

line on our socials, I should say, saying, and now we need gym memberships to be on major sale.

Yes, you're not wrong about that.

Big

snack and big fitness are not working together, Alicia.

Those are the two

forces that are

battling each other here.

Do you want a snack or do you want to get in shape?

Well, you can do both in moderation, I suppose.

Of course.

I don't do anything in moderation, so that doesn't apply to me.

PepsiCo says that the product size,

and the taste will remain absolutely the same.

So they're not gonna change that, and they're still gonna only give you five chips, but it's fine.

The company has- Wait, not volume.

Wait, no, I'm gonna hammer that point.

The company is also looking to boost weak North American sales after they had to raise prices faster than their competitors in recent years, so please don't mistake this for them being very kind and cordial to you.

Retailers, by the way, set the final prices, but PepsiCo expects savings to be reflected in the stores.

Now, I do have a question for you.

Since they're doing this right before the Super Bowl, and I know tomorrow we're going to have

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some

conversations.

You want to be listening because we're going to give some

stuff away tomorrow, okay?

So be listening tomorrow, all right?

I know employees cannot win, shoot.

But we're gonna be giving some stuff away.

So listen tomorrow for the Super Bowl.

I have to ask though, do you have a favorite Super Bowl snack that is on this list or not on this

list?

I've been trying not to eat as many snacks, but I will say yesterday I was going through the local grocery store flyers and Doritos are on sale.

There will be Doritos in play here on Sunday.

Other than that, usually we'll make like a buffalo chicken dip as a big one here.

We enjoy that.

But yeah, there will definitely be

Doritos.

picked a really awful week to start an intermittent fast.

Yeah.

How's that going to go on Sunday?

Well, probably just the same as it has.

But I did start an intermittent fast.

So I'm down to the five to six ounces of protein twice a day, two cups of veggies and a cup of fruit.

It's going very well.

If for anybody who's wondering, I

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have lost

eight pounds in three days.

Mostly water weight is my 19 year old will always point out because like another

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words,

mom, don't get too full of yourself.

Like you're not doing that great.

But in our house,

no, it is.

It is great.

Thank

you.

You're welcome.

In those, if we're Super Bowl Sunday, I will have a lot of mini cucumbers for me to eat because that is very much part of an intermittent fast.

Maybe some baby carrots.

There will be more snacks for the husband and the

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young adult children.

What do

they demand?

Really anything that I set in front of them.

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My family is not picky like that.

We are going to have turkey meatballs in the slow cooker, though, with the teriyaki sauce.

All compatible with my fast, by the way.

So yes, and some...

It's nice of you to...

make them.

I may have, now that you brought it up, I may have to make some meatball.

Yeah.

Oh, I've got some recipes for you.

Let me tell you.

I love a good slow cooker.

We're also going to have some pepper jack loaded cauliflower.

Oh, I gotta

get that recipe.

Yes.

Yes.

So it's, it's gonna be fun.

And listen, it's one of those days where I know it's coming and I'm gonna enjoy myself and then Monday I'll beat myself up.

But tomorrow we will be back, Jamie.

Yes, we will.

At least that's what they tell us anyway.

So

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I'm Jamie Martenson.

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