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In the second hour, we welcome Dr. Mara Karlin from National Security Action joins the show. A Former Assistant Secretary of Defense, Dr. Karlin discusses the importance of NATO, the need for real expertise and why America can't go it alone. Then we wanna know...what annoys you about Illinoisians...? Illinesians? What annoys you about people from Illinois, specifically when they're using Wisconsin for their vacation getaways. Finally, we wrap the show up with This Shouldn't Be A Thing, we hope you give it a thumbs up.

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