As 2025 wraps up, the podcast dives into winter's icy grip and the overuse of road salt, featuring insights from Carol Lukens of the Wausau Sustainability Energy and Environment Committee. The conversation highlights the environmental havoc wreaked by excessive salt, including water toxicity and infrastructure damage, costing the U.S. $5 billion annually. Lukens stresses the importance of alternative methods like pre-wetting roads with brine and using sand for traction. We are also joined by Paul Michlig to talk Wisconsin sports as the Packers face a big matchup with the Bears amid injuries, and basketball talk with the Bucks, Badgers and Marquette.