Saturday, August 01, 2026 (Hour 1)

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Saturday, August 01, 2026 (Hour 1)

Wausau Business Show · Sat Aug 1, 2026

Tracy's

here, Paul.

Oh, hi, Tracy.

Tracy Luffel.

Tracy, who should we have on the show this week, do you think?

Kim Larson.

Who?

Speaking to the microphone, Tracy.

What?

Yeah.

Come on up.

You always have good ideas.

Who do you think we should have on?

Probably Kim Larson.

Oh, OK.

All right.

Sounds like a good idea.

Yeah,

yeah, let's do that.

OK, let's go.

Here we go with episode number 75.

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This is the Wassup Business Show.

Episode number 75, we are open for business.

Hello, Wassonians.

Hello, everyone.

I'm Ryan.

I'm Paul.

And who do we have on the show this week?

Paul, are you taking Tracy's advice?

I think we should take Tracy's advice and bring her in.

Who's coming in?

Kim Larson's coming in, the managing director of the Boys and Girls Club of Wausau.

Nice.

And we're going to talk to Travis Tesca coming up, world-renowned chef Travis Tesca.

That's what I heard.

And I'm saying that because he's getting a pretty big promotion that we're going to hear about.

Have you ever had his food?

Travis Tesca, the former executive

chef of the Wright House.

Yeah, that's right.

No pun

intended.

And recently took over the culinary program at NTC for the past number of years.

Cool.

Very, very

successful chef.

One of Wassa's celebrity chefs.

Yeah.

But he's got a chance when I say world renowned, I mean, we're going to hear about something big that's happening with Travis Tesca coming up.

Cool.

Can't wait.

And the World Horseshoe Finals were last week at the Greenhack Turner Center.

That went well.

Yeah, it was a big event.

This week's

big event is, of course, the Wisconsin Valley Fair.

Oh, I love that annual tradition we have here in Wassa.

Can't wait to get to the grandstand.

Can't wait to smell some animals.

Let's see if you recognize it.

Can you name, here are the people at the grandstand.

Stan Paul.

Go ahead.

Artists at the grandstand.

Okay.

This will be good.

It's not that money.

I'll tell you that.

God rest his

soul.

Chris

Jansen.

Can you name one of his songs?

Chris.

I

can't.

No.

Okay.

All right.

August 5th.

The next night is a Shenandoah Shenandoah River.

I can name Shenandoah the country and Western band.

Can you

name any Shenandoah songs?

Paul.

No, it's not going to get any easier.

Oh boy.

August 6th.

But these are great.

They're going to put on great show.

No, I just don't.

I'm out of it.

Yeah.

Can you name an Eddie Money song?

A lot of Eddie Money.

I can name his whole collection, to be honest with you.

August 6th is a band called

Skillet.

We're moving from the country and Western

genre to the food genre.

Looks like kind of a rock band looking at their picture.

Skillet.

Can you name any skillet songs,

Paul?

Yeah, no.

Okay.

Sorry.

And that's it for the bands this year at the Wisconsin Valley Ferris Grandstand.

Well, I like new music, and that would be new music for me, I believe.

Fine.

Eric Church, let's not forget.

Eric Church performed at the Wisconsin Valley Ferris once.

That's right.

Before he was the Eric Church we know.

Before you knew any of his songs.

Right, that's correct.

So maybe that's the case with Skillet.

Yeah, maybe Skillet will become the next Eric Church.

They look younger than Shadandoah, and I think

Chris

Jansen's been around for a while.

Well, that name sounds

familiar.

I just can't name a song.

Yeah.

The Rodeo is coming August

7th and 8th, and on the 9th is of course the iconic Demo Derby.

Yeah,

the iconic Demo Derby.

So a whole smorgasbord of events coming up this week at the Wisconsin Valley Fair, which we can't wait to check out with the kids.

Smorgasbord, we can't get off this food theme here.

The skillet.

What is a

smorgasbord?

Anyway.

I don't know.

Is that something you can pick up at Zillmans or?

It's like a

Finnish

term or something?

Like a

buffet, I don't know.

Gotta go to Townline and ask them if they

have any smorgasbords.

Zillmans or Townline, what would you go to?

for that question.

Which one has the Wildcat?

Ooh, I bet they both do.

Wildcat's just like raw hamburger, right?

I don't know.

With some onions and salt.

Yeah, onions and they, everyone eats it at Christmas.

I've never had it.

I don't

buy it.

You've not?

I don't think so.

It's really

good.

Maybe at Dustin Koofall's house

one time.

It's so good.

Anyway, you want some trivia,

Paul?

Yeah, give it to me.

Do you know how much it's kind of pumpkin growing season now, too?

Okay.

Squash and all that.

Yeah.

Mark Holly, famous pumpkin tour.

Best

Pumpkin too, I know Mark Holly of Channel 7 fame, you know, he's got his famous world-class pumpkin that he does Yeah, I don't

think he did the last year every year off.

Yeah, he has the

biggest here's the trivia Go ahead.

Do you know how much Mark Holly's famous pumpkin grows per day per day per

day the weight?

I'm looking for in pounds.

Right.

Or not necessarily pounds, whichever metric, whichever, whichever system I want.

Do you hear a color metric?

Do you know how much Mark Holly's pumpkin grows per day?

Well, that is the trivia question.

I certainly know it varies.

So, for example,

on day

one, it's not going to grow the, if the average is 10 pounds, it's not going to go from 0 to 10 in one day.

However, so I bet it increases, but I think the question

is- It goes up logarithmically.

We might even need the usual calculus here.

Okay.

At the end of it, if it weighs X amount and you planted it on May 1st, for example.

Okay, when you plant it.

What

is that?

What does that divide out to?

Well, that's how I'm gonna do it.

You're gonna do it as an average because I think yeah, I think I think on average I'd like to know at like at the height of pounds per

day That's a different question.

I gave you a little hint there.

Yeah, okay, which I didn't mean to it could be ounces It could be in the ounces.

It's a skill.

I have to pull hints out of you when you can be trivial It use whatever skill you want.

Okay, how much does mark I don't want to give it anyway

How much does Mark Holly's famous pumpkin grow per day at kind of one of the higher grow days?

What do you peg it at?

Well, I think it would be somewhere in August or September as my guess is the biggest grow day.

Where it's really going.

Yeah, that's what I think.

I think that's the fastest growth rate.

And I think his

pumpkin has weighed like 1600 pounds for memory.

Okay, it's a huge pumpkin.

Yeah.

So I'm guessing on the largest grow day it

would do about

25 pounds

of girls.

I don't

know if I'm way lower high, but I got to look like you don't know what you're talking about.

I mean, isn't that shocking to say, oh yeah, the pumpkin grew from yesterday at one PM to today at one PM, 25 pounds.

It is shocking.

That's why I don't, but I know it's going to be a shocking number.

You wouldn't have asked the question.

Okay.

And I did give away that it was in pounds.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's

my guess.

Okay.

You're way off.

Whoa.

I have no idea in which direction.

Some of the days I'm told by Mrs. Holly.

Okay.

Who I ran into yesterday.

Some of the days.

Okay.

The pumpkin grows.

Get this.

You want to take

a second

guess?

Go ahead.

Just take one more guess.

90 pounds.

100 pounds per day.

Wow.

Yeah, that's shocking.

100 pounds in a day.

Do you know how big, simply a 100 pound pumpkin would be?

And that's what it grows a day?

Can you like, can you just see it growing?

I said, can you see

it as you're watching?

Like, if you stand there for 10 minutes.

It's expanding, seeing expansion.

She said, no, not really.

You can't really see it growing,

but you can hear it.

You can hear it growing.

Yeah.

I mean, how does it, where does it pull 100 pounds out of the soil?

Like, how does it even get 100 pounds?

100 pounds.

And many people maybe that grow

pumpkins know this, but I was just dumbfounded.

Was I right on the total about 1600?

Yeah, I guess.

It was 100 pounds.

Save that for next week.

I grew about 60 pounds yesterday.

Did you make a mistake?

What?

60 pounds?

She goes, yeah, no, 60 pounds.

I go, 60.

Pounds?

It takes a human like eight years to grow 60 pounds.

She goes, yeah, no, but some days it grows 100.

Wow.

Are you telling me that it grows 100 pounds in a 24-hour period?

Yeah, it grows up to 100 pounds in a 24-hour period.

Almost

not believable.

It's right.

That's crazy.

Insane.

Yeah.

We'll see if Travis Tesco knows about that.

Okay.

Several underappreciated iconic Wausau landmarks, Paul.

Okay.

I don't know if you know that there's one right by UWMC.

That kinder rings a bell.

And with a live report, here's brand new Wausau Business Show correspondent, Shay Reif is off today.

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Rebecca Deimos, Rebecca.

Ryan and Paul, I'm off.

location at one of Wausau's most amazing and iconic landmarks.

Hello, Wausonians.

Imagine you're driving down Stewart Avenue.

You pass UWMC or UWSP at Wausau, whatever they're calling it now, I don't know.

But you're thinking about lunch and you just rolled right past

one of the most electrifying pieces of granite in the entire city of Wausau.

I'm talking about the historical marker at 8th Avenue and Stewart Avenue.

Buckle up.

Long before Wausau was known for insurance companies, paper factories, and questionable roundabouts, we were apparently the place in Wisconsin to learn how to teach children.

Yes, Wausau.

Not Madison, not Milwaukee, us.

This beautifully overlooked granite marker reads, and I quote, Yes!

Right back at ya!

Thank you so much for listening.

Classes began September 11th, 1899 with Professor Oliver E. Wells as principal at a salary of $1,800 a year and Miss Rosalia Bohr as teacher at $1,300 a year.

Over the next 43 years, the little school that sat on this land

cranked out roughly 1,400 teachers who fanned out across 365 rural classrooms.

So next time you're stuck in traffic by UWMC or UWSP at Wausau or whatever they're calling it now, just remember,

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And

here we

are with Kim Larson and, oh, Craig

Uhlenbrock stopped by as well from the board of directors of the Boys and Girls

Club.

Good pronunciation.

How's everybody doing?

Boys and Girls Club, this is great.

Well, come in, yeah.

Kim, how long have you been executive director of the

Boys and Girls Club now?

Three and a half years.

But you've worked

there for over

a decade, right?

Yeah, actually,

25 years.

25?

25,

over

two decades.

Doesn't look that old.

Doesn't look that old.

I appreciate that, thank you.

That's Hal Veron.

What did you do before the

Boys and Girls Club?

Well, I worked for

a brief stint at a company that I don't think is in business any longer and just prior to that I was in college.

Was

it in Wausau that you don't

think

it's in business any longer?

No, it was in Rhinelander.

And what industry?

Fishing maps.

Fishing maps.

Those come and go.

I sold fishing maps over the phone.

I was a telemarketer.

Cool.

Cool.

Yeah, I tried.

Never heard of that before.

It was amazing.

That's a good area to be

in

that

business up north.

How many years did

you

do that?

Less than one.

It was my job after college as I tried to figure out what I wanted to be when I grew up.

We all have that job.

Still trying to figure out what I want to be when I grow up.

Yep.

Were you responsible for topography then?

What's it called when you're making my cartog

or cartography?

Oh, no.

You didn't draw the maps.

No, that would have been bad.

I sold them over the phone.

So I was a telemarketer.

So I would call

places like my favorite was to call Lake Okeechobee in Florida and sell them fishing maps.

And I would find out that I would

often call during a drought and they would yell at me that.

Young lady, you need to call it a time when we have some rain.

Please don't call again.

Click and

be like, oh, awesome.

So there was no lake when you

called at the time?

No, because it would drain when it was not the rainy season.

It would fill up during the rain.

And those are lessons that

you learn

by.

Making phone calls.

Let go of a chubby.

That's a tough one is like right in the middle of

the state of

Florida, right?

Sure.

Oh, yeah.

You weren't studying your own math.

I was just giving a list.

Yeah.

What did you go to college for?

I

have a degree in English with an emphasis in creative writing because I thought I was going to be, you know, the next

great author.

And then I fell in love with the Boys and Girls

Club and that dream went out the window and I found a better dream.

How did you become a part of the Boys and Girls Club in Wausau then?

What did that come about?

Well, there wasn't one.

I moved home after college, as most people do for

a little while, to try

to

figure out my life.

And you grew up in Rhinelander?

Yep,

I'm a

hodeg.

What's a hodeg?

Coming off the festival.

And when I went to college, I knew I wanted to work with kids, but I didn't want to be a teacher.

And this was a path to work with kids without having to go back to school to get my teaching degree.

So what role did you have when you started then?

So I was the team coordinator.

So I ran the skate park, which is now our elementary center.

I ran our girls with a purpose programming, restorative justice programming, that

kind of stuff.

And over the years, I've had the opportunity to try everybody's role and some I'm not

good

at and I'm okay with

that.

Other people are way better

at it

than I am.

And so they, when I

had the opportunity to apply for this job, I

took it.

What a great way to come into the role of executive director having done everything else, literally there is to

do in the organization.

Each of each role and you know, you know, the response.

responsibilities.

Yeah.

Good experience for you and lead the way then.

But you started as the skate park coordinator.

I did.

And that's like thrashers and kids on skateboards, skateboards and rollerblades at the time.

Yeah.

It was, it was wildly popular when I started.

Mwasa at the time didn't have any outdoor skate parks.

So we were the only game in town.

Yeah.

High roller.

Did you take everybody to High Roller skating center then?

We did not go to High Roller skating center.

We went to Four Seasons skate park in

I think in Appleton, that was the big field

trip at the

time.

But yeah, it was huge.

We had some really big ramps.

When we renovated the park, when renovated the basement, we had former club

members who are now in their thirties come to dismantle the ramps to put them back

together

in

their own spaces.

It was really interesting, though, because they didn't label any

of the wood.

So we're trying to figure out how you're going to know where this 2x4 goes versus this 2x4, this sheeting.

But it was

very, very

traumatic for people that we were getting rid of the skate park.

Oh, and you put it back up somewhere else, though?

We did not, somebody else did.

Oh, okay.

People

who utilized it 20 years ago for that, yeah, yeah.

Oh, I see.

Where I was going with that is, do you know how to skateboard?

Nope, I tried.

At the time, though, the ramps were, they were six feet tall at the top.

So to drop in on that, you have to be good.

I was not.

I couldn't even sit on the skateboard to go down the ramp.

So I just did the fun box in the center and... Well, you know what that's called.

Yeah, the fun box.

Yeah.

That's always in the center of a skateboard park.

Always in the center of a skateboard park is something called the fun box.

Oh, I like that.

Yep.

Do you use skateboard?

No, I don't either.

But my son does.

And Dave Beckman over at the Chamber of

Connors grew up on skateboards.

Yes.

His parents used to own a skateboarding company.

That's

right.

Which is pretty cool.

Yeah.

So then you get involved.

Well, Craig's here too.

And Craig, how's the.

Hey, Craig.

No, I'm

enjoying the conversation.

OK, yeah.

Most importantly for you, Craig, how's the how's the timeline coming on the Grand Theater of Warsaw?

Yeah, we did

another check in.

Still on track.

Everything is going well.

Yes.

Greg is

the VP of all

things at my own

construction.

Wasso,

who's responsible for making sure that the grand theater opens on

time for Neil Diamond.

Yep.

Close.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

Neil Diamond.

I'm about the same age.

All right.

He's the senior vice president of everything.

Oh,

senior.

I'm sorry.

What's

his

actual title?

Senior vice president.

I know, but of

what?

You've got to start there.

Operations, I think.

Operations.

Let me read it.

Yeah, go ahead.

Paul has his readers.

Get your readers out.

Old man official business card

senior vice president was office.

Oh, that's it.

Okay.

The was office.

That means he's in

charge of everything in was okay.

So we were kind of right on the right track.

But yeah, Craig in all seriousness, are you going to be open on time?

Yeah, everything is going great actually so far.

So on track ahead of track or I would say on probably

even a little

bit ahead.

So they're they're

doing well and everything's

is going well at this point.

So I'll knock on wood that nothing goes wrong.

These are hot really hot days and smoky taste.

even they don't slow it down.

That's the beauty of this job.

It's all inside.

If it was the

smoke and the hot probably would have slowed us down, but not when it's inside.

What do they say, Paul?

It's one throat to choke.

Yeah, that's right.

That's Craig.

He's responsible.

What I know that Myron Construction is very involved in the Boys and Girls Club too, and a big sponsor of all the events there.

And Craig, you being on the board, what are some of the initiatives that are going on from your perspective?

Yeah.

So I mean, the Boys and Girls Club has been a big part of Myron for a long time.

So it really evolves from our corporate office and wherever we have our satellite

offices They're all involved in those different clubs and those

organizations

in those communities So when

I moved

here to

was I was important that I really wanted to become

part of the club and the boys and girls Club here in was so as such an integral part of this community So us being a part of

that we've been fortunate to do a lot of work for him when like him just talked about the elementary center renovation We were able to do

that We'll be doing the the work in Merrill when we we start working for there the new boys and girls new boys and girls Well, this is called the wassup business show not the mayor

But it's a national organization, the Boys and Girls Club, right?

And what is the founding purpose of the Boys and Girls Club?

So our mission is to enrich and transform the lives of young

people.

Our national office has a version of that mission, but it started in the

1860s when

a group of women saw some

boys walking down the

street following the men who were going to the coal mines and they thought they needed some place to spend time.

So they opened the first boys club and it was the boys club until 1990 and then it finally became the boys and girls club and they welcomed girls in for the first time in 1990.

because

their dads, they didn't want to take them into the mines, the coal mines or where is this base?

That's my understanding.

Wow.

In Hartford, Connecticut.

Hartford, okay.

And that's how the Boys and Girls Club started.

And it started as just a place for the boys to hang out.

Yep.

Okay.

But if you're a child in the Wausau community, what motivates you to want to go to the Boys and Girls Club or what attracts people to the Boys and Girls Club?

I think it's a couple of things.

I think when you walk into the Boys and Girls Club here in town, it's a place that is just for kids.

The whole building belongs to the kids.

in it is designed for kids and teens.

It's their space.

They own it.

We are there to

support them and to provide programming opportunities and experiences that they can't get anywhere else for a variety of reasons, whether that's access to things like transportation to get there or financial or their families are working.

So it's just, it really is a place that is just for kids.

So

whether it's after school,

non-school days during the summer, we're there Monday through Friday.

Is it educational based then?

Or, you know, because I know a little

bit about the Boys and Girls Club.

And obviously, I enjoy going to the Harvest Dinner.

That's a big fundraiser for you that's coming up on November.

What is it?

12th.

November 12th this year at the Roth Child Pavilion, otherwise known as the 400 block.

But still bitter about that.

Yeah.

But they come in and what happens?

Like they just show up at your door, like

literally parents drop them

off and or do they have to register or how does it work?

Yeah.

The kids and teens enroll to become a club member are enrollment.

fee is $20 for

the calendar year.

And

if they don't come for summer, that's the only fee that they would pay.

But kids can walk through the doors, and there's educational opportunities, there's sports, fitness, recreation opportunities.

health and wellness opportunities, cooking programs,

a ton of field trips.

Our art studio this summer is crazy

busy with different hands-on projects and activities.

And all that for 20 bucks a year?

That's $20 for the year.

And that doesn't even include our workforce readiness initiative where we take kids on business tours, help them apply for college for their first jobs.

They can have club-based work experiences through a junior staff program.

What a deal.

I mean, someone's got to pay for it though.

How does that work?

That's a great question.

And the club is really community funded, whether those

are individuals, businesses, foundations, corporate sponsors.

It really, we were designed

by the

community, brought to Wasaha

by the community.

Gary Fuels was actually our founding board president,

and we continue to be funded by the community.

And those donations and investments help offset

the cost for families.

So $20 is their enrollment fee, but that's certainly not the cost to serve

one kid for a year.

I think there's a lot of people that have the perception that there's a lot of funding like state funding, federal funding, those types of.

things.

And that's not the case.

It's all community funded.

Primarily.

Every small percentage, but a majority of it is all community based funding.

And why isn't the state or why don't you get grants or anything like that from the state or federal government out of curiosity?

We do get a little

bit from the

state of Wisconsin has been supportive of Boys and Girls Clips across the state with a couple of initiatives.

Those contracts vary in amount based on

budget and elections

and those types of things.

Our meal program is a

federal program.

So we do get reimbursed about 66% of that program.

And then the rest of it is offset by things like harvest

dinner.

So, you know, our annual meal budget is about $200 plus thousand dollars.

Yeah.

How many kids do you serve then?

For meals.

So far this year, we've served 25,000 meals and snacks at no cost to kids and club members, kids and families.

And how many kids are part of the Boys and Girls Club right now?

Right now, there's about 1200 enrolled members between all four sites.

And they don't necessarily come every day.

We're not a licensed child care center.

So kids, there's much more fluidity, I think, in people's schedules.

So if you happen to take today off and

you

want to stay home with your kids, then we don't see your kids today.

If kids have other

responsibilities, especially during the

summer, we have a lot of club members that may be caregivers for their siblings.

They go out and have a job.

They're helping in gardens, whatever that looks like.

We might not see them during

the summer, but we see them during the school year.

that is true too.

There's one family in particular that I can think of.

They were coming to stay with their

grandparents.

in Merrill.

But grandparents are driving them down every day so that they have some place that they can go.

What's the age range of the children?

Organizationally,

we serve third through 12th grade.

Each site is a little bit different by the age group that they serve, but the Wausau site is third through 12th grade.

So they can pay $20 a year and the parents can just, it's not a childcare, but the parents can kind of

drop

them off

whenever they want.

Yep.

And kids can get there in whatever way is safe for them.

So if they're getting dropped off, if they ride their bikes, their scooters, if they take the bus, if they walk, whatever

that looks like.

that's something that's $20 a year, and it's

not childcare, Paul, but you can drop your kids off whenever you want, but it's not a licensed childcare.

But what's the distinction there?

A license, I think?

Well, I think it's license.

I think it's fees, right?

I mean, there's not a, I don't know of a childcare center that's going to charge you $20 for the year for your kids.

Right, that's pretty cheap childcare.

Not that it's childcare.

So in all reality, we serve kids that

could be on their own, right?

Eight years

old.

Some parents, they wouldn't consider leaving their eight year old home alone.

But some kids are home alone at eight years old.

And these are kids that have aged out

of, typically have aged out of a traditional childcare setting because it is so structured.

There are so many restrictions on ratios and those types of things.

And so these are kids that can make choices on their own, can choose for the most part.

It's just a wide range of kids that walk through our

doors

every day.

But you can sort of dwell on this,

but you must have to have some certification to be able to have children under the age of 18 there, right?

We

are a licensed, like we're

Chartered Boys and Girls Club.

So we are held to a very high national standards, safety standards, organizational

standards, charter standards, and we pay dues and fees to that national office to be held accountable to those things.

And I know people that are listening always want to know what percentage of your fees go to the mothership, so to speak.

Um.

far less than 1%.

Okay, reasonable, reasonable.

Very

reasonable.

You said four locations.

Remind us where those four locations are.

So we opened, we were born and raised

in Wausau, so our main site

is here.

We opened at Greenhack Turner Community Center, formerly

Greenhack Fieldhouse in 1999.

We've actually been out there since 1999.

The DC Everest Middle School, we've been there since 2012, and Prairie River Middle School in Merrill.

We've been there since October of 22.

And Carolyn Marks has a lot to do with the, or had a

lot to do with the Wausau location because it's called the Carolyn Marks Boys and Girls Club.

Yep.

The Carolyn S. Marks site.

Is that because she funded the building that you're in or what was her involvement?

Definitely a significant part of the building.

Yes.

I wasn't around at the time, so I couldn't give you an

exact

figure, but I know she was

very influential in not only the funding

of the building, but the concept of choosing the Boys

and Girls Club in those conversations as a community influencer.

She made

a difference in many organizations in our community.

Yeah.

What was her claim to fame?

so to

speak.

Why

did she have all that money to give to the Boys

and Girls Club

if you don't

mind

putting it bluntly?

What's a better

way to put

that, Paul?

Why does she have deep

pockets?

I think her

philanthropic

efforts.

Why was she so philanthropic?

I would be making a

guess and I don't want to be wrong publicly.

So I will... Daughter of a lumber baron?

I think

it was...

Wassa Group?

She doesn't want to speculate.

I don't like to be wrong.

And this is a public forum to be wrong on.

Well, that's true.

Let's look it up.

Here, we got a man.

We got another time.

Yeah, I like to make it up.

I kind of want to know the

history.

Carolyn S. Marks?

She's come

up a few times.

Is it M.A.R.?

Like Richard Marks, M.A.R.X.?

I'm M.A.R.K.

M.A.R.K.

S. No S. No S. Yep, Carolyn S. Mark.

Oh, Mark, Mark.

Okay.

Carolyn S. Mark.

Wassa.

It says, uh, Carolyn S. Mark.

was a prominent Wausau philanthropist and humanitarian.

That's a great way to put it, whoever wrote this.

I like adding humanitarian as a philanthropic humanitarian.

It doesn't say what her background was though.

She died in 2002.

She has a lot to do with the community foundation of North Central Wisconsin, which we love.

Gotta rest your soul.

She led with her heart.

She was a steadfast and influential

humanitarian.

Her commitment through the community continues through the Legacy Fund.

No.

Okay, so we don't know.

There's really no information other than she was

a

philanthropist and a humanitarian.

Hang on.

Sorry.

Oh, no.

Hang on a second now.

Here's something from wassa pilot and review about her legacy.

We'll get back to this interview shortly We're researching

yeah, okay.

That's a beautiful portrait of her Yeah, she supported the conservatory

of music here the

wassa conservatory of music

you're giving lady Center for the visual arts

Geez,

she's something.

Yeah.

God bless Carolyn and S. Mark.

Okay.

Yeah.

So getting back to the kids of the Boys and Girls Club, then what capacity are you at in your facility right now?

Right now we have about 200 kids every day throughout the summer.

And that could go up to what?

240 would be our max.

Okay.

So you got a little capacity left.

Do you ever have to turn anyone away?

How does that work?

We have not had turned anyone away yet.

We've hit,

we bumped right

up against that at our high of 236 this summer.

That gets a little

uncomfortable when there's kids everywhere.

You

know, when you serve a significant number of teens and tweens, they have a varying schedule.

So whether they have a job or they have

responsibilities in the morning or they're, they sleep in.

So we don't have, you know, that 200 all day, every day, it

varies.

And it just kind of depends on what the day looks like for kids.

And they don't have to schedule their time to be there at all.

No, when we do summer enrollment, we ask parents and caregivers to give us their best guesstimate of when their kids will be there, but we don't hold them to that.

And what's the biggest impact that you feel the Boys and Girls Club, and I ask you this both, has on the children that go through the program that are there on a regular basis?

You know, I think one of the things that the Boys and

Girls Club does is provides that consistent place where kids can walk in and be a kid.

So regardless of what's happening.

in our world and their world, what happened at school, what happened at home, what's happening with their friend.

They walk through the doors and they can go into the gym and they can run it off.

They can hang out with other people.

They can step into the art studio and create something and express themselves.

It's just a place for them and they don't have to manage that other stuff.

Yeah, I know a lot of them have kind of hairy worlds outside of coming to your place for stability.

And I've heard some of those stories before.

Can you give us one of those stories that you so eloquently have

talked about at the Harvest Dinner, for example.

Yeah.

So in just a couple of weeks, we are getting ready to send our 2026 Youth of the Year off to college.

She's got accepted to UW-Milwaukee, and she's going to start her first day of college.

She's been with us for the past four years.

When she started with us, she actually wouldn't speak to the staff, and she will tell you that she made some pretty

poor decisions in her behavior choices and since then has grown with the support

of club staff, of her grandparents, of school people.

She's got a

really fantastic mentor who she connected with

at the club through our IT program and has just found

that support.

And now she's actually giving back to the club.

She's one of our youth development specialists and she's working there this summer.

in our elementary art room, and she wants to pay it forward with what she got out of the club.

And how old was she when she came to the club for the first time?

She was going into eighth grade, I believe.

And she was just having a

tough time.

Yep.

There were all sorts of influences in her life that were impacting her negatively, just personally, mentally, and through her grandparents first and foremost, and then

the support of people around her and them choosing to bring her to the club.

She's found this really great community of support

carrying adults that have just helped push her forward, lift her up and be the resources that she needs.

And I would think like when she came in eighth grade, I mean, college probably wasn't even remotely close to your thought process at that time.

And now

to

know that she's been accepted and going to

go to

a four year school is amazing.

She is part of a program that we call Be Great Graduate.

So she's had a one-on-one mentor with one of our club staff members for the past several years.

And she will tell you, and I know she doesn't mind me sharing this, that she was not doing well academically.

And now she's got all A's and B's.

because of the support of this

program.

So our staff goes in and meets with her once a week.

Well, he used to, now she graduated.

So she's got this, has had this support.

And that support for her, if

she chooses, will continue into college.

So our graduation specialist will continue to check in on her.

I know her mentor is already trying to figure out ways to go down to Milwaukee

to see her.

And it's just, it is not one person.

We are

part

of the solution for a lot of kids.

And it's even cool.

I know another quick story, but when you talk about we had a person that was in the program, went off to college, graduated.

came back and is working

for

the club.

Absolutely.

Like roughly ballpark, what percentage of the kids that come through your program would likely not be going to college

if it were not for the Boys and Girls Club?

That's a really great question.

And I would hate to guess at that.

We only know when kids tell us, you know, by the time our club members are in junior or senior year, we see them less because they're doing those things.

The kids that ask for help and ask for support or that we reach out to and help support them.

Those are the kids that we know are going off to college.

And we don't have a lot of eighth graders that listen to the Wausau Business Show.

There's a few, bud.

Unfortunately, just a few, just a few.

But if they were listening right now and struggling, you know, I can imagine myself in eighth

grade, if I was going through some hard times, I probably wouldn't, my first thought wouldn't be, I need to get to the Boys and Girls Club.

Right.

So what do you say to those kids when they come in to kind of

put them at ease because to keep a kid coming back over and over again day after day regularly is a real art form I would imagine at that age.

I will tell you it's our staff.

You know, our youth development specialists, this summer we have about 40 of them and they are a wide range

of experiences of backgrounds, about 20% of them are former club members.

So, and that ranges anywhere from 20 to 30% depending on the year, but it absolutely comes down to our staff, the staff that show up for them consistently that are present for them, that have fun with them,

that provide those programs activities.

And

it really

comes down to the structure and accountability that kids are looking for that they get with our staff.

Okay, so you build the relationships and so you can

kind of they walk in the door and they're like, I don't know about this.

And they're embarrassed.

And obviously, you know, their guard is up.

And you just kind of say, well, if you want to go play ping pong, go play ping pong.

And

then your

staff takes over from there kind of deal.

That's 100% exactly what it is.

Um, and it's the same with our elementary kids, you know, a parent bringing in an eight year old that is nervous to be there for the first time.

It's a big building.

There's a lot of space, a lot of noise, a lot of kids.

And so there

are many times that if a parent says this is his or her first time, our staff will walk them downstairs and give them a tour and introduce them to another, another kid and a staff member is, you know, with kids and teens, it's not instantaneous friendships, but it is with our staff.

If they are with our staff, that is their job is to reach out to the

kids, get to know them, learn something about them and build that trust in that ongoing.

relationship and rapport.

Is that staff going to their homes when they need them to then?

Or how does that work?

Because I would imagine if they went home and they're having a tough time at home that they might feel the desire to reach out to the staff at Boys and Girls Club.

How does that work?

We'll just see you tomorrow, or?

Yeah, that's where our safety standards come into place.

We can't do that outside of club hours, with the exception of our graduation specialists who can do that at school during the day.

But our club staff will call home if there are issues or if we have

concerns.

We reach out to our community partners, whether that's social services, law enforcement, counseling services, anybody that we can build in a support

network for kids.

And not every kid needs that support network, right?

And some kids are.

People ask, you know, what is a typical club member and there isn't one.

Kids show up today

with a certain set of challenges and that could change drastically tomorrow.

It just depends on their situation.

Yeah, I would

imagine that it's an awesome cross-section of people and kids that it's a melting pot and that's an only positive thing.

Absolutely.

Yeah, what what you see in a school is what we see at the club.

It's just a smaller, a smaller version and a wider range of ages in one building.

And all socioeconomic backgrounds and coming from every types of family all over the neighborhood, it's not just kids that are going through a tough time.

Absolutely.

The club is open to all kids and our age group, all kids and teens.

And it really all there's no restrictions based on income, based

on zip code, based on family style, anything like that.

So we do have on an annual basis, we serve about 35

different zip codes because somebody might work in, you know, parent

or guardian might work in

town.

They are living with grandparents

for the summer.

There's foster families, different placement

situations.

And so we want to make sure that the club is

consistent, is affordable, and that caregivers consider us a reliable resource for their families.

And Wausau would not be as great of a place to live and work or not for the Boys and Girls Club decades

that it's

been

around.

What year was it founded again?

1997.

Next year is 30 years.

Wow.

Anything big planned?

We are working on

it.

We are looking forward to unveiling our 30-year celebration.

Two harvest dinners.

And Ryan, I was just going to mention

from a board perspective and you can appreciate this because you've been very gracious with your time over the years and serving in a lot of different boards, but we can sit there.

We don't talk about that in a lot of business.

We've all been gracious with his time too.

All as well.

Thank you guys.

He could do more though.

Craig, go ahead.

What I was going to say, as a board member, I mean, again, it's just the people that we have running

these organizations, right?

I mean, you look at an executive director like Kim and her staff, the things that they do are just amazing and wouldn't be possible without them.

So, again,

I just give kudos

to Kim and all of her staff and the amazing things they're doing with these kids here and the opportunities and the things that they're giving them are pretty amazing.

And the organization wouldn't be able to go on your

a year if it

wouldn't be for the community support.

And you guys are fundraising every year.

How much to keep the operations going?

Our budget is $2.2 million.

So you got to raise 2.2,

roughly

2 million,

2.2 million, get a little bit of some grants from the state, some grants from the government and whatever,

the federal government.

But

other than that,

it's

all on you

to raise a couple

million bucks every year from the community.

Absolutely.

Not an easy task.

That's impressive.

Yeah, because you're getting 20 bucks per student for the year.

But other than that, it's roughly too much.

that you're raising every year, right?

Absolutely.

That's wild.

What can people do if they want to help with that?

Contribute any listeners out there?

That's a great question, Paul.

Way to help out, Paul.

First, we have our online donation system is always available, and that's right at bgclub.com.

But we strongly encourage people to come in and take a tour.

This is a great platform for us to talk about this.

But seeing the club in action is really where it becomes reality.

You say you have a building that's dedicated just for kids.

Come in and see what it looks like to have a building that is dedicated just for kids.

See the interactions of our

staff with our club members because it...

It is a game changer.

And for

a lot

of kids,

this is the thing that keeps things going.

The other thing is we have three

fundraising events coming up on Thursday, August 6th is our high T event that is at the Hilton Garden Inn.

It's celebrating our club girls.

Thursday, November 12th is our largest fundraiser that is a harvest dinner at the Rothschild Pavilion.

That's great.

Paul's been to that.

I like that one.

Thank you.

Thank you.

So do I.

He raised that paddle up a lot.

I love hearing that.

And that supports our meal and snack program.

And then every April, we host winemakers dinner again at the Hilton.

And that supports our character and leadership development program.

So

that youth of the year

that we talked

about, somebody like her is our highlight speaker at that.

That's kind of their, they're coming out their celebration event.

And that is the second Thursday in April.

Okay.

And you always do a great

job of

telling the stories of the kids that have been impacted by the voice

and girls club at these events.

And people can just sign up on your website for those.

events.

Absolutely.

We're always looking to sell tickets or sponsorships.

Yeah.

Be careful.

Bring some clinics.

Yeah.

Tear

jerkers

involved.

Not a dry eye in the

group.

And I know what all of these fundraising dinners that you

have, the kids are

actually helping serve the tables, post the tables, and are the wait staff of it, which is cool to get to know the kids and see the kids.

Yeah.

One year we went there.

We ended up, I think she was the youth of the year that year.

She

waited our table and then she ended up being her babysitter for several months.

Was it a 501c3 tax?

Kim,

you know, you are involved with the Boys and Girls Club so heavily.

What do you do in

your free

time?

Yep, that's a great question.

So I love living in Wausau.

There is just so

much

to do.

So

playing

outside,

kayaking, running, hanging out with my kid, my dog, my family, my friends.

Have you done the kayak paddle crawl?

I have not.

Not yet?

No?

You've heard

about it.

I have

heard of that, yes.

You don't like bar hopping, I think.

I think that's a lot of what they do.

Kayaking takes a skill.

And it deteriorates with

every drink.

OK, we're reading between the lines.

We got you,

Kim.

But you are

a whole dig.

Have you been to the

Hode Country Music Festival?

I have been and I did go this year.

Who was your favorite?

I will shamefully admit I was only there for two performers and Leanne Rhymes was better than the other one.

Okay, okay.

I like Leanne Rhymes.

For Leanne Rhymes.

Was Hardy there this year?

So I only saw Leanne Rhymes and Old Dominion.

Oh, I love Old Dominion.

They were okay.

I think she

showed up for the crowd.

Yeah.

Did

you

see Duff Deimos at all?

No.

Oh, darn it.

Oh, yeah.

Hey, Duff.

Hey, Duff.

Yeah.

Every

year he does it, I think it's his last

year doing the whole thing, and he comes back another year, which I'm happy about.

Yeah.

So that's awesome.

Well, what have we learned?

We learned a lot about Kim.

We learned that she's a whole day, and we learned a lot of great stuff about

the Boys and Girls Club.

We've learned that

my own

construction is guaranteed to finish on time.

Did he use the word guaranteed?

Yeah, I heard guaranteed in there.

My guess is I'll be back on the show if it doesn't open.

Correct.

We'll be checking in with you.

You have a hostile answer to that.

He's a public shaming, for sure.

And we've also learned that nobody knows much about Carolyn S. Mark.

No, no one knows where the money came from.

Well, we'll follow up on all

that.

Yeah,

right.

Thanks

for

coming in.

Kim and Craig on the Wausau Business Show.

We really appreciate it.

Thank you for having us.

Thank you for having us.

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It's the Warsaw business show.

I'm Ryan and I'm Paul and it was national intern day this week Paul Yeah, I heard about that thought we call some

of the interns

up and just tell

them hi

Hi, and thank you for your internship here.

Yeah.

Hey, they're coming back from a paper mill right now Paul cool guys you there Oh, hey, yeah, you're exactly the two people that we wanted to talk to you have the two interns Ben and Nate the two

interns.

Hey guys, should I push on speaker?

Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think

Two interns that we have this summer.

I think so.

Oh, guys.

Hey, welcome to the Wausau Business Show, gentlemen.

Hey, guys.

You are honorary

rocket industrial

interns.

And we know that was national intern day yesterday.

And we want to talk to you about what you're doing today as an intern.

Where are you guys?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So today, as interns for rocket industrial, we went to

the paper mill up in Menominee, Michigan.

Oh, way up there.

Which

paper mill

does go to?

We went to the by origin paper mill.

Okay.

We got to see the product.

We got to see the process of the paper being made from the pulp all the way to the finished product of the

the food paper that you see

in.

Yeah, they're

learning.

We're

educating the future.

Yes.

Yes.

Great guys.

Well, did it smell?

Yeah, it did a little bit, but not as bad as you would have seen.

Okay.

Yeah, you'd

think it would

be pretty,

pretty bad.

What's one thing you each learned during your day

at the paper mill?

It's like an episode of Mr. Rogers.

Right.

Oh gosh, Nate, you want to start here?

Go ahead, Nate.

This is your, this is your test.

I don't want to work in a paper mill.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

Fair.

And Nate, you're in the, you're an accounting intern, right, Nate?

Yeah, finance.

Finance, okay.

Much better, much better.

Big difference.

And Bennett, you're in marketing.

What did you learn?

Marketing?

Marketing and sales.

Yes, I learned

that I learned just, I say the process about making the paper and how it's very complex.

Like on the surface, it might seem pretty simple.

Kind of you just take the pulp

and you heat it up and then you...

Um, flatten out the sheets, but there's a lot of chemicals that go into it.

It's a very, very complex process.

Yeah.

They got a bleach that, uh, pulp, right?

Yeah.

Do they talk about the bleach steps?

What, what kind of paper are they pumping out of that mill?

Like, is it like sheet paper, you know, like

copy paper or is it specific kind food paper?

Wrapping paper for gifts.

So just like rocket, their SQF, uh, certified.

And so, um, a lot of their paper is going to

restaurants and big

dining establishments.

And

it's the

paper that you

find at the bottom of your

restaurant.

Okay.

And where are you guys going?

Bennett, I believe

that you're

at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, right?

You're a badger.

And Bennett and Nate, where do you

go?

I'm a UW Green Bay.

Oh, GB.

I was supporting the

UW system,

both of you, too.

Yeah.

And where

did you

guys... Bennett, you went to Wausau West.

He's a warrior.

Yeah, no warriors.

He's

a basketball player and pop concert legend.

Yes.

Bennett Mattson.

Bennett, what was

the

song that you sang for the pop concert last year

or the year before?

Remind

us.

Oh,

God.

I think here I go again

by a white snake.

Oh, that's a banger man from the 80s.

Great use of the word banger

connected with the

young

folk.

Good.

Good.

And Nate, where did you go to school?

High school?

I went to West.

I went to West too.

I was like right above Bennett.

Also a

warrior.

Thank you.

Were you in the pop concert, Nate?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

What

song did you perform?

Yeah,

I didn't sing very much.

But I wasn't

a solo guy

like

Bennett.

Oh, OK.

OK.

Like Men's Choir kind of deal.

Are you a

part of the group?

Yeah, we just did some group stuff.

I don't even remember what we did.

Oh, I'm sure it was wonderful.

You were at the end.

You participated in the Nylons.

Na na na na.

Hey, hey, hey.

Goodbye.

You

did

that

well.

I'm sure,

right?

Oh, they're still doing that.

OK.

Well, what

do you guys hope to be in 10 years when you grow up?

What do you guys want to do when you grow up?

Right now, I'm.

still navigating that

and trying to

figure

it out.

I, um, I've always thought of myself as a leader.

And so I really like to take

a management role and lead a, lead a group in some fashion, like a sales team or a marketing team.

Hopefully a role

that I can do

that.

Okay.

That makes sense.

And, and you're 19, correct, Bennett?

Yes, I am.

Okay.

And Nate, how old are you?

Maybe 20, 20, 20.

Good man.

What do you want to be when you grow up, Nate?

Well, I'm majoring in finance and accounting at Green

Bay.

Both.

And I'm studying to get

my CPA.

Oh, okay.

Take it easy.

And

I don't want to go into public

accounting

really.

I just know that with those... Hedge

fund?

With that certification, it's a lot

easier.

It opens a lot of doors to do a bunch of different things.

Venture capital?

Finance, though.

Venture capital?

Hedge fund?

Something like that?

Wall Street?

finance bro.

We'll see about that.

And what's okay.

Well, he went to prison for 10 years.

Oh boy.

Oh boy.

Okay.

And the last question that we have for you gentlemen, as

you

are winding down your past the

last few weeks of your

internship here, which you've

done great at

by the way.

Yeah, great interns is that where do you hope to where do you hope to

live

when

you graduate from

college?

Good question.

Where do you hope to live?

Right, good.

It's not a

trick question.

Not a trick question.

So where do you hope to live?

Where do you

hope to live?

Where are

you going to end up?

Individually.

Well, um, nature

outdoors guy

myself.

So I'd really love to spend a few years out West.

Oh, okay.

All right.

Okay.

We love it.

We love you.

We got chef Travis Tesca on the other line.

We got

to go guys.

Okay.

Thanks guys.

Love you.

Appreciate you.

Thank you.

Travis Tesca is on the show.

Everybody here.

Sorry.

We were just talking

to the interns.

You're much

more important.

We had to let the

turns go, although they are great.

Not like let them go with their job.

We had to let them go off the call just to clarify.

Sorry, my phone never rang.

I was waiting

for it to ring

and I've been

working around the house doing packing and stuff and not paying attention.

Sorry, I missed you.

It's an honor to have you on, sir.

Yeah,

we're glad to have you.

One of

wasa's famous celebrity chefs.

Tell us about one of the key people in the iconic right place, right?

Right house?

restaurant.

I can't right the right place right place.

Okay.

And the heading up the culinary program and NTC very successfully the past number of years.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And now so and now what trap traps?

I was just going to start start at the beginning.

Okay, please do please do.

So it actually is ironic.

It's 20 years ago almost to like

like the week that

we started the right place.

So the right place that I was trying to remember and I tried to find it, but I already packed all that stuff up.

I believe it was like August 6th is when we opened.

So and that would have been in 2006.

So I moved here in May of 2006.

I've been here 20 years, almost exactly.

Where'd you move from?

Where were you at before?

Well, so originally I'm

from

Auburn, Dale.

Okay, and I worked for the owner of the right place Patty in Marshall that Castle Loma fine dining and be sure I worked there for two years And then she had the idea of starting a restaurant in a house And she wanted to do it in wasa so we actually we started that business together I owned a small portion of the restaurant with her people love And and the idea was always that I was gonna purchase it from her

and run it as my own

restaurant and

When that time came, we just couldn't come to an agreement on the price.

And so she sold it to another chef.

And then we all know he didn't, unfortunately, didn't do so well.

So it had a different vision for customer service and things like that.

And that sadly didn't end well.

Oh, well.

Yeah.

One thing leads to another.

Yeah.

You got to move on, right?

With life.

Yeah, exactly.

So then...

Then I actually worked in the automotive industry briefly for a few years, just kind of, you know, I was looking for, for Chef work, but it was not, it was not a friendly market here.

And also that, that had a pay scale that could match what I had made when I was at the right place and I had a mortgage and, you know, whatever.

So, the automotive industry helped me out a little bit.

And

then,

I was kind of approached by an old food vendor who worked for North Central Technical College.

And he was a dean there.

And he was like, hey, we're going to start a culinary program.

I know you always talked about wanting to be a part of that.

And he's like, so here's the dean's name that's going to be in charge of it.

And you should reach out.

So I did.

And she said, cool.

We're not ready to hire anybody yet or whatever.

When we

are, I'll let

you know.

A couple months later, whatever, I got an email from her and I applied and interviewed and they liked me and so they hired me to start the culinary program.

When I was hired, it was a list of classes and that was the only thing that existed for the culinary program.

Zero students, yes, zero kids.

Uh, yeah, there was, there was no students yet.

There was nothing yet.

It was just a list of classes.

So I started at the tech in January of 2016.

Yeah.

And they actually hired me to start the corner program that fall.

So I actually worked there for like eight months, but now the getting

everything

ready.

Yeah.

There was nothing,

right?

Like

the kitchens didn't exist when I started literally nothing.

It was crazy.

They had the list of classes and they

had the approval from the state

to fund to start that program or to run those classes, I should

say.

So I wrote all the

curriculum for the first year and picked out all the textbooks.

Where did you go to culinary school?

I went to Johnson and Wales University in Denver.

And is that the same place as chef Adam went?

Is that the same

place

that chef Adam went?

No, chef Adam from Chow.

He went to somewhere in DC.

Oh DC, but he worked out in Denver, Colorado.

I remember.

Yeah, okay.

He worked in Colorado.

That's what it was.

So did chef

Nate from RedEye did a bunch of work in Colorado too.

Oh cool.

But chef Adam was yeah, out, out.

It's like in Maryland, I think, where he went.

Yeah, that's right.

And then Chef Nate went to the Art Institute, I believe, in Minneapolis.

And then

how many kids, how many students, I guess I

should say, were there when you left NTC?

How did you, how many did you back?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we had

Uh, anywhere between, uh, you know, the capacity of the program was 15.

Uh, and there were many years where we took 15 and then there were some years where we took less.

Um, COVID was a little difficult.

It was hard on us.

We had a couple of years where enrollment was very light right after COVID.

Um, we had actually grown the program.

So I, so I got it off the ground, got it rocking.

Um, like I said, designed the kitchens, wrote the curriculum, kind of got all that rocking.

Uh, and then that next year we had

another chef and then he came on and

started

teaching the second year after the first year was going.

So then there were two of us and we did that with an assistant for a few years and then actually in 2019 our enrollment

was so strong

that we needed a third chef.

We were going to have two sections every year because it was really good.

So we brought on a third chef and then COVID happened.

Then the enrollment went back down, but we kept the third chef and added a hospitality program.

And then four years ago, they asked me to start the butchering program.

So then I did the same thing.

I started the butchering program from the ground up and designed the cold lab space and the slaughter trailer and kind of gathered all the knowledge that we needed to get that

thing

rocking.

And then I taught that for three years.

So cool.

I taught the butchering program just.

Just me taught that we did.

I mean, I had an assistant occasionally.

I had a help, but that was kind of like my program to start and run.

So

yeah, how of a successful run is the point there?

And so we had, we

had pretty good enrollment in the butchering program too, um, especially for a new program.

It's kind of a niche thing.

So you're not going to get a thousand students, you know?

I mean, you pumped a lot of people through there.

Good enrollment.

I

don't know

what

this fall looks like.

Um, well, it's not your problem anymore.

Is it?

So now tell, tell us where you're moving to.

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Here we go with episode number

75!

with

your host Ryan and Paul.

Cause we both give a little anger

Dale's Western Lanes.

A lot of Lanes.

This

is the WASA Business Show.

Episode number 75, we are open for business.

Hello, Wassonians.

Hello, everyone.

I'm Ryan.

I'm Paul.

And who do we have on the show this week, Paul?

Are you taking Tracy's advice?

I think we should take Tracy's advice and bring her in.

Who's coming in?

Kim Larson's coming in, the managing director of the Boys and Girls Club of WASA.

Nice.

And we're

going to talk to Travis Teske coming up.

World renowned chef Travis Tesca.

That's what I heard.

And I'm saying that because he's getting a pretty big promotion that we're gonna hear about.

Have you ever had his food?

Travis Tesca, the former executive chef of the Wright House.

Yeah, that's right.

No pun intended.

And recently took over the culinary program at NTC for the past number of years.

Cool.

Very, very successful chef.

One of Wasa's celebrity chefs, we call him.

But he's got a chance when I say world renowned, I mean, we're gonna hear about something big that's happening with Travis Tesca coming up.

Cool, can't wait.

And the World Horseshoe Finals were last week at the Greenhack Turner Center.

That went well.

Yeah, it was a big

event.

This week's

big

event is, of

course, the Wisconsin Valley Fair.

Oh, I love that annual tradition we have here in Wausau.

Can't wait to get to the grandstand.

Can't wait to...

I smell some animals.

Let's see if you recognize it.

Can you name, here are the people at the grandstand, Paul.

Go ahead.

Artists at the grandstand.

Okay, this will be good.

It's not that money, I'll tell you that.

God rest his soul.

Chris Jansen, can you name one of his songs?

Chris Jansen, I can't.

No, okay, all right.

August 5th, the next night is Shenandoah.

Shenandoah River, I can name.

Shenandoah, the country and Western band.

Can you name any Shenandoah songs?

Paul.

No.

It's not going to get any easier.

Oh boy.

August 6th.

But these are great.

They're going to put on great show.

No,

I'm out

of it.

Can you name an Eddie Money song?

A lot of Eddie Money songs.

I can name his whole collection, to be honest with you.

August 6th is a band called Skillet.

We're moving from the country and Western genre to the food genre.

Looks like kind of a rock band looking at their picture.

Skillet.

Can you name any Skillet songs, Paul?

Yeah, no.

Okay.

Sorry.

And that's it for the bands this year at the Wisconsin Valley Ferris Grandstand.

Well, I like new music, and that would be new music for me, I believe.

Fine.

Eric Church, let's not forget.

Eric Church performed at the Wisconsin Valley Ferris once.

That's

right.

Before he was the Eric Church we know.

Before you knew any of his songs.

Right, that's correct.

So maybe that's the case with Skillet.

Yeah, maybe Skillet will become the next Eric Church.

They look

younger than Shadandoah, and I think Chris Jansen's been around for a while.

Well, that name sounds

familiar.

I just can't name a song.

Yeah.

The Rodeo is coming August

7th and 8th, and on the 9th is of course the iconic Demo Derby.

Yeah, the iconic Demo Derby.

So a whole smorgasbord of events coming up this week at the Wisconsin Ballet Fair, which we can't wait to check out with the kids.

Smorgasbord, we can't get off this food theme here.

The skillet, what is a smorgasbord?

Anyway.

I don't know.

Is that something you can pick up at Zillmans or?

It's like a Finnish term or something?

Like a buffet, I don't know.

Gotta go to Townline

and ask them if they

have any smorgasbords.

Zillmans or Townline, what would you go to?

for that question.

Which one has the

Wildcat?

Ooh, I bet they both do.

Wildcat's just like raw hamburger, right?

Yeah, that's kind of, I don't

know.

With some

onions and...

Yeah,

onions and they, everyone eats it at Christmas.

I've never had it, I don't think.

You've not?

I don't

think so.

It's really good.

Maybe at Dustin Kuhl Falls one time.

It's so good.

Anyway, you want

some trivia, Paul?

Yeah, give it to me.

Do you know how much?

It's kind of pumpkin growing season now, too.

Okay.

Squash and all that.

Yeah.

Mark Holly, famous pumpkin tour.

Best...

pumpkin tooth, I know.

Mark Holly of Channel 7 fame, you know, he has got his famous world-class pumpkin that he does.

The biggest pumpkin in the world.

Yeah, I don't think he did it last year.

No, he took a year off.

He has the biggest.

Here's the trivia.

Go ahead.

Do you know how much Mark Holly's famous pumpkin grows per day?

Per day?

Per day, the weight.

I'm looking for, in pounds.

Right.

Or not necessarily pounds, whichever metric, whichever, whichever.

System I want

to use.

Empirical or metric?

Do you know how much Mark Holly's pumpkin grows per day?

Well, that is the trivia question.

I certainly know it varies.

So, for example, on day one, it's not going to grow the, if the average is 10 pounds, it's not going to go from zero to 10 in one day.

However, so I bet it increases, but I think the question is- It goes

up

logarithmically?

Yes.

We might even need the usual calculus here.

Okay.

At the end of it, if it weighs X amount and you planted it on May 1st, for example.

Okay, when you plant it.

What is that?

What does that divide out to?

Well, that's how I'm

gonna do it.

You're gonna do it as an average because I think yeah, I think I think on average

I'd like to know at like at the height of pounds per day That's a different question.

I gave you a little hint there.

Yeah, okay, which I didn't mean to it could be ounces It could be in the ounces.

It's a skill I have to pull hints out of you when you give me trivia.

Use whatever skill you want.

Okay.

How much does Mark?

I don't want to give it any away

How much does Mark Holly's famous pumpkin grow per day at kind of one of the higher grow days?

What do

you peg it at?

Well, I think it would be somewhere in August or September as

my guess is the

biggest grow day.

Where it's really going.

Yeah, that's what I think.

I

think

that's the fastest growth rate.

And I think his pumpkin has weighed like 1,600 pounds from memory.

Okay, it's a huge pumpkin.

Yeah, so I'm guessing on the largest grow day it would do about

25 pounds of girls.

I don't know if I'm way lower high, but I got to look like you don't know what you're talking

about.

I mean, isn't that shocking to say, oh yeah, the pumpkin grew from yesterday at one PM to today at one PM, 25

pounds.

It is shocking.

That's why I don't, but I know it's going to be a shocking number.

You wouldn't have asked the question.

Okay.

And I did give away that it was in pounds.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's my guess.

Okay.

You're way off.

Whoa.

I

have no idea in which direction.

Some of the days I'm told by Mrs. Holly.

Okay.

Who I ran into yesterday.

Some of the days.

Okay.

The pumpkin grows.

Get this.

You want to take a second guess?

Go ahead.

Just take one more guess.

90 pounds.

100 pounds per day.

Wow.

Yeah, that's shocking.

100 pounds in a day.

Do you know how big, simply a 100 pound pumpkin would be?

And that's what

it grows a day?

Can you like, can you just see it growing?

I said, can you see it as you're watching?

Like, if you stand there for 10 minutes.

It's expanding, seeing expansion.

She said, no, not really.

You can't really see it growing, but you can hear it.

You can hear it growing.

Yeah.

I mean, how does it, where does it pull 100 pounds out of the soil?

Like,

how does it even get 100 pounds?

100 pounds.

And many people maybe that grow pumpkins know this, but I was just

dumbfounded.

Was I right on the total about 1600?

Yeah, I guess.

It

was 100

pounds.

Save that for next

week.

I grew about 60 pounds yesterday.

Did you make a mistake?

What?

60 pounds?

She goes, yeah, no, 60 pounds.

I go, 60 pounds.

It takes a human like eight years to grow 60 pounds.

She goes, yeah, no, but some days it grows 100.

Wow.

Are you telling me that it grows 100 pounds in a 24 hour period?

Yeah, it grows up to 100 pounds in a 24 hour period.

Almost not believable.

It's right.

That's crazy.

It's insane.

Yeah.

We'll see if Travis Tesco knows about that.

Okay.

Several underappreciated iconic Wausau landmarks, Paul.

Okay.

I don't know if you know that there's one right by UWMC.

That kinda rings a bell.

And with a live report, here's brand new Wausau Business Show correspondent, Shay Reif is off today.

Rebecca Deimos, Rebecca.

Ryan and Paul, I'm on location at one of Wausau's most amazing and iconic landmarks.

Hello, Wausonians.

Imagine you're driving down Steward Avenue.

You pass UWMC or UWSP at Wausau, whatever they're calling it now, I don't know.

But you're thinking about lunch.

and you just rolled right past one of the most electrifying pieces of granite in the entire city of Wausau.

I'm talking about the historical marker at 8th Avenue and Stewart Avenue.

Buckle up.

Long before Wausau was known for insurance companies, paper factories, and questionable roundabouts, we were apparently the place in Wisconsin to learn how to teach children.

Yes, Wausau.

Not Madison, not Milwaukee, us.

This beautifully overlooked granite marker reads, and I quote, first teacher's training school in Wisconsin, 1899 to 1943.

The Marathon County Board appropriated $12,000 for construction of a building completed in October 1902.

12 grand in 1902.

Groundbreaking economics right there.

Yes, right back at ya.

Thank you so much for listening.

Classes began September 11th, 1899 with Professor Oliver E. Wells as principal at a salary of $1,800 a year and Miss Rosalia Bohr as teacher at $1,300 a year.

Over the next 43 years, the little school that sat on this land cranked out roughly 1,400 teachers

who fanned out across 365 rural classrooms.

So next time you're stuck in traffic by UWMC or UWSP at Wausau or whatever they're calling it now, just remember, you're idling next to the birthplace of the very first place for teacher training in the entire state of Wisconsin.

You're welcome, Wisconsin.

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business show I'm Ryan and here we are with Kim Larson and oh Craig Luhlenbrock stopped by as well from the board of directors of the boys and girls club boys and girls club welcome in

yeah

Kim how long have you been executive director of the boys and girls club now

Three and a half years.

But

you've worked there for over a decade, right?

Yeah, actually, 25 years.

25.

25

over two

decades.

Doesn't look that old.

I appreciate that.

Thank

you.

That's Hal Varun.

What did you do before the Boys and Girls Club?

Well, I worked for a brief stint at a company that I don't think is in business any longer and just prior to that, I was in college.

Was it in Wausau that you don't think it's in business any longer?

No,

it was in Rhinelander.

And what industry?

Fishing maps.

Fishing

maps.

Those come

and

go.

I sold fishing maps over the phone.

I was a telemarketer.

Cool.

Cool.

Yeah, I tried.

Yeah, I

was.

Never heard of that, Jeff.

Oh, it was amazing.

That's a good area to be in that business up north.

How many years did you do

that?

Less than one.

Oh, OK.

It was my job after college as I tried to figure out what I wanted to be when I grew up.

We all have that job, yeah.

Still trying to figure out what I want to be when I grow up.

Yep.

Did you, were you responsible for topography then?

What's it called when you make them at Cartag or Cartag?

Oh, no.

You didn't draw the maps.

No, that would have been bad.

No, I sold them over the phone.

So I was a telemarketer.

So I

would call places like my favorite was to call Lake Okeechobee in Florida and sell

Kathryn Lake

them

fishing maps.

And I would find out that I would often call during a drought and they would yell at me that.

Young lady, you need to call it a time when we have some rain.

Please don't call again.

Click it and be like, oh, awesome.

So there was no lake fall at the time?

No, because it would drain when it was not the rainy

season.

It would fill up during the

rain.

And those are lessons that you learn

by

making phone calls.

Lake Obachobi, that's a tough one, is like right in the middle of the state of Florida, right?

Sure.

Oh, good.

Yeah, I didn't know that

much.

You weren't studying your own

math.

I was just giving a list.

Yeah, I got you.

What did you go to college for?

I

have a degree in English with an emphasis.

in creative writing because I thought I was going to be, you know, the next great author

and

then I fell in love with the Boys and Girls Club and that dream went out the window

and I

found a better dream.

How did you become, you know, a part of the Boys and Girls Club in Wausau then?

How did that come about?

Well, there wasn't one, I moved home after college as most people do for a little while to try to figure out my life.

And

you grew up in Rhinelander?

Yep,

I'm Hodeig.

Hodeig.

What's a Hodeig?

Coming off the festival.

And when I went to college, I knew I wanted to work with kids, but I didn't want to be a teacher.

And this was a path to work with kids without having to go back to school to get my teaching degree.

So what role did you have when you started then?

So I was the team coordinator.

So

I

ran the skate park, which is now our elementary center.

I ran

our

girls with a purpose programming, restorative justice programming, that kind of stuff.

And over the years, I've had the opportunity to try everybody's role and some I'm not good at and I'm okay with that.

Other people are way better at it than I am.

And so they, when I had the opportunity to apply for this job, I took it.

What a great way to come into the role of executive director, having done everything else, literally there is to do in the organization.

Each of each role and you know, you know, the response.

responsibilities.

Yeah.

Good experience for you.

And

to lead

the way then.

But you started as the skate park coordinator.

I did.

And that's like thrashers and kids on skateboards.

Skateboards and rollerblades at the time.

Yeah.

It was wildly popular when I started.

Moasa at the time didn't have any outdoor skate parks.

So we

were the only game in town.

Yeah.

High roller.

Did you take everybody to High Roller Skating Center then?

We did not go to High Roller Skating

Center.

We went to Four Seasons skate park in

I think in Appleton, that was the big field trip

at

the time.

But yeah, it was huge.

We had some really big ramps.

When we renovated the park, when renovated the basement, we had former club members who are now in their thirties come to dismantle the ramps to put them back together in their own spaces.

It was

really interesting, though, because they didn't label any of the wood.

So we're trying to figure out how you're going to know where this 2x4 goes versus this 2x4,

the

sheeting.

But it was very, very traumatic for people that we were getting rid of the skate park.

Oh, and you put it back up somewhere else, though?

We did not, somebody else did.

Oh, okay.

People who utilized it 20 years ago, put it back to, yeah, yeah.

Oh, I see.

Where I was going with that is, do you know how to skateboard?

Nope, I tried.

At the time though, the ramps were, they were six feet tall at the top.

So

to drop in on that, you have to be good.

I was not, I couldn't even sit on the skateboard to go down the ramp.

So I just did the fun box in the center and-

Well, you know what that's called?

Yeah, the fun box.

That's always in the center of a skateboard park.

Always in the center of a skateboard park is something called the fun box.

Oh, I like that.

Do you use skateboard?

No, I don't either.

But my son does.

And Dave Beckman over at the Chamber of Conners grew up on skateboards.

Yes.

His parents used to own a skateboarding company.

That's right.

Which is pretty cool.

Yeah.

So then you get involved.

Well, Craig's here too.

And Craig, how's the.

Hey, Craig.

No, I'm enjoying the

conversation.

OK, yeah.

Most importantly for you, Craig, how's the how's the timeline coming on the Grand Theater of Warsaw?

Yeah, we need

another check in.

Still on track.

Everything is going well.

Yes.

Greg is the VP of all things at my own construction.

Wasso, who's responsible for making sure that the Grand Theater opens on time for Neil Diamond.

Yep.

Close.

Wait

a

minute.

Wait

a minute.

Wait a minute.

Neil Diamond.

I'm about the same age.

He's the

senior vice president

of everything.

Oh, senior.

I'm sorry.

What's his actual title?

Senior vice president.

I know, but of what?

You've got to start there.

Operations,

I

think.

Operations.

Let's see it.

Let me read it.

Yeah, go

ahead.

Paul has his readers.

Get your readers out.

Old

man official business card senior vice president was office.

Oh,

that's it.

Okay.

The

was

office.

That means he's in charge of everything in was

okay.

So we were kind of right on the right track.

But yeah, Craig in all seriousness, are you going to be open on time?

Yeah, everything is going great actually so far.

So

on track

ahead of track or I would say on probably even a little bit ahead.

So they're they're doing well and everything's is going well at this point.

So

I'll knock on wood that nothing goes wrong.

These are hot really hot days and smoky taste.

even they don't slow it down.

That's the beauty of this job.

It's all inside.

If it was the smoke and the hot, probably would have slowed us down, but not when it's inside.

What

do they say, Paul?

It's one throat to choke.

Yeah, that's right.

That's

Craig.

He's responsible.

What I know that Myron Construction is very involved in the Boys and Girls Club too, and a big sponsor of all the events there.

And Craig, you being on the board, what are some of the initiatives that are going on from your perspective?

Yeah.

So I mean, the Boys and Girls Club has been a big part of Myron for a long time.

so it really evolves from our corporate office.

And wherever we have our satellite offices, they're all involved in those different clubs and those organizations and those communities.

So when I moved here to Wausau, it was important that I really wanted to become part of the club.

And the Boys and Girls Club here in Wausau is such an integral part of this community.

So us being a part of that, we've been fortunate to do a lot of work for them.

When like Kim just talked about the elementary center renovation, we were able to do that.

We'll be doing the work in Merrill when we start working for the new Boys and Girls Club

that's been open there.

Well, this is called the Wausau Business Show, not the Merrill.

But

it's a

national organization, the Boys and Girls Club, right?

And what is the founding purpose of the Boys and Girls Club?

So our mission is to enrich and transform the lives of young people.

Our national office has a version of that mission, but it started in the 1860s when a group of women saw some boys walking down the street following the men who were going to the coal mines and they thought they needed some place to spend time.

So they opened the first boys club and

it was

the boys club until 1990 and then it finally became the boys and girls club and they welcomed girls in for the first time in 1990.

because their dads, they didn't want to take them into the mines, the coal mines, or where is this base?

That's

my understanding.

Yep, in

Hartford, Connecticut.

Hartford, okay.

And that's how the Boys and Girls Club started.

And it started as just a place for the boys to hang out.

Yep.

Okay.

But if you're a child in the Wausau community, what motivates you to want to go to the Boys and Girls Club?

Or what attracts people to the Boys and Girls Club?

I think it's a couple of things.

I think when you walk into the Boys and Girls Club here in town, it's a place that is just for kids.

The whole building belongs to the kids, everything.

in it is designed for kids and teens.

It's their space.

They own it.

We are there to support them and to provide programming opportunities and experiences that they can't get anywhere else for a variety of reasons, whether that's access to things like transportation to get there or financial or their families are working.

So it's just, it really is a place that is just for kids.

So whether it's after school, non-school days during the summer.

We're there Monday through Friday.

Is it educational based then?

Or, you know, because I know a little bit about the Boys and Girls Club and obviously I enjoy going to the Harvest Dinner.

That's a big fundraiser for you that's coming up on November.

What is it?

November 12th this year at the Roth Child Pavilion, otherwise known as the 400

block.

Still bitter about

that.

Yeah, but they come in and what happens?

Like they just show up at your door, like literally parents drop them off and nor do they have to register or how does it work?

Yeah, the kids and teens enroll to become a club member.

Our enrollment fee is $20 for the calendar year.

And if they don't come for summer, that's the only fee that they would pay.

But kids can walk through the doors and there's educational opportunities, there's sports, fitness, recreation opportunities.

health and wellness opportunities, cooking programs,

a

ton of field trips.

Really cool.

Our art studio

this

summer is crazy busy with different hands-on projects and activities.

And all that for

20 bucks a year?

That's $20 for the year.

And that doesn't even include our workforce readiness initiative where we take kids on business tours, help them apply for college for their first jobs.

They can have club-based work experiences through a junior staff program.

What a deal.

I mean, someone's got to pay for it, though.

How does that work?

That's a

great

question.

And the club is really community-funded, whether those are individuals, businesses, foundations, corporate sponsors.

Really, we were designed by the community, brought to Wasaha by the community.

Gary Fuels was actually our founding board president, and we continue to be funded by the community.

And those donations and investments help offset the cost for families.

So $20 is their enrollment fee.

But it's that's certainly not the cost to serve one kid for a year.

I think there's

a lot of people that have the perception that it's there's a lot of funding like state funding, federal funding, those types

of things.

Yeah.

And that's not the case.

So

it's all community funded.

It is.

Primarily.

Primarily.

Every

small percentage, but a majority of it is all community based funding.

And why

isn't the state or why don't you get grants or anything like that from the state or federal government out of

curiosity?

We do get a little bit from the state of Wisconsin has been supportive of Boys and Girls Clips across the state with a couple of initiatives.

Those contracts vary in amount based on budget and elections and those types of things.

Our meal program is a federal program.

Kathryn Lake

So

we do get reimbursed about 66% of that program.

And then the rest of it is offset by things like harvest dinner.

So, you know, our annual meal budget is about $200 plus thousand dollars.

Yeah.

And how many

kids do you serve then?

For meals.

So far this year, we've served 25,000 meals in snacks at no cost to kids and club members,

kids and families.

And how many kids are part of the Boys and Girls Club right now?

Right now, there's about 1,200 enrolled members between all four sites.

And they don't necessarily come every day?

No, we're not a licensed child care center.

So kids, there's much more fluidity, I think, in people's schedules.

So if you happen to take today off and you want to stay home with your kids, then we don't see your kids today.

If kids have other responsibilities,

especially during the summer.

We have a lot of club members that may be caregivers for their siblings.

They go out and have a job.

They're helping in gardens, whatever that looks like.

We might not see them during the summer, but we see them during the school year.

And the opposite is true too.

There's one family in particular that I can think of.

They were coming to stay with their grandparents.

in Merrill.

But grandparents are driving them down every day so that they have some place that they can go.

What's the age range of the children?

Organizationally, we serve third through 12th grade.

Each site is a little bit different by the age group that they serve, but the Wausau site is third through 12th grade.

So they can pay $20 a year and the parents can just, it's not a childcare, but the parents can kind of drop them off whenever they want.

Yep.

And kids can get there in whatever way is safe for them.

So if they're getting dropped off, if they ride their bikes, their scooters, if they take the bus, if they walk, whatever that looks like.

That's something that's $20 a year and it's not child care, Paul, but you can drop your kids off whenever you want.

But it's not a child care.

But what's the distinction there?

The license, I think?

Well, I think it's license.

I think it's fees, right?

I mean, there's not a, I don't know of a child care center that's going to charge you $20 for the year

free.

Right, that's pretty cheap childcare.

Not that

it's childcare.

So

in all reality, we serve kids that...

could be on their own, right?

Eight years old.

Some parents, they wouldn't consider leaving their eight year old home alone.

But some kids are home alone at eight years old.

And these are kids that have aged out of, typically have aged out of a traditional childcare setting because it is so structured.

There are so many restrictions on ratios and those types of things.

And so these are kids that can make choices on their own, can choose for the most part.

It's just a wide range of kids that walk through our doors every day.

But you can sort of dwell on this, but you must have to have some certification to be able to have children

are under the age of 18 there, right?

We're a chartered boys and girls club,

so

we are held to a very high national standards, safety standards, organizational standards, charter standards, and we pay dues and fees to that national office to be held accountable to those things.

And I know people that are listening always want to know what percentage of your fees go to the mothership, so to

speak.

far less than 1%.

Okay,

reasonable, reasonable.

Very reasonable.

You said four locations.

Remind us where those four locations are.

So we opened, we were born and raised in Wassa, so our main site is here.

We opened at Greenhack Turner Community Center, formerly Greenhack Fieldhouse in 1999.

We've actually been out there since 1999.

The DC Everest Middle School, we've been there since 2012, and Prairie River Middle School in Maryland.

We've been there since October of 22.

And Carolyn Marks has a lot to do with the, or had a lot

to do with the WASA location because it's called the Carolyn Marks Boys and Girls Club,

right?

Yep, the Carolyn S. Marks site.

Is that because she funded the building that you're in or what was her involvement?

Definitely a significant part of the building, yes.

I wasn't around at the time, so I couldn't give you an exact figure, but I know she was very influential in not only the funding of the building, but the concept of choosing the Boys and Girls Club and those conversations as a community influencer.

She made a difference in many organizations in our community.

Yeah, what was her claim to fame?

so to speak.

Why did she have all that money to give to the Boys and Girls Club if you don't mind putting it bluntly?

What's a better way to put that, Paul?

Why does she have deep pockets?

I

think

her philanthropic efforts.

Why was she so philanthropic?

I would be making a guess and I don't want to be wrong publicly.

Is she the daughter of a lumber baron?

I think

it was...

Wassa Group?

She doesn't want to speculate.

I don't like to be wrong.

And this is a public forum to be wrong on.

Well, that's true.

Let's look it up.

Here, we got a man, we got another time.

Yeah, we're gonna make it up.

I kind of want to know the history.

Carolyn S. Marks?

She's come up a few times.

Is it M-A-R?

Like Richard Marks?

M-A-R-X?

I'm M-A-R-K.

M-A-R-K-S?

No S. No S. Yep, Carolyn

S.

Mark.

Oh, Mark.

Mark, okay.

Carolyn S. Mark.

Wassa.

It says, uh, Carolyn S. Mark.

was a prominent Wausau philanthropist and humanitarian.

That's a great way to put it, whoever wrote this.

I like adding

humanitarian.

Yeah, philanthropic

humanitarian.

It doesn't say what her background was though.

She died in 2002.

She has a lot to do with the community foundation of North Central Wisconsin, which we love.

Got a rest your soul.

She led with her heart.

She was a steadfast and influential humanitarian.

Her commitment through the community continues through the Legacy Fund.

No.

Okay, so we don't know.

There's really no information other than she was a philanthropist and a humanitarian.

Hang on.

Sorry.

Oh, no.

Hang on a second.

Now, here's something from Wassa Pilot and review about her legacy.

We'll get back to this interview shortly.

We're

researching.

Yeah.

Okay.

That's a beautiful portrait of her.

Yeah.

She supported the Conservatory of Music, the Wassa Conservatory of Music.

You're giving ladies.

Center for the visual arts.

Geez, she's something.

Yeah.

God bless Carolyn and S. Mark.

Okay.

Yeah.

So getting back to the kids of the Boys and Girls Club, then what capacity are you at in your facility right now?

Right

now we have about 200 kids every day throughout the summer.

And that could go up to what?

240 would be our max.

Okay.

So you got a little capacity left.

Do you ever have to turn anyone away?

How does that work?

We have not had turned anyone away yet.

We've hit, we bumped right up against that at our high of 236 this summer.

That gets a little uncomfortable when there's kids everywhere.

You know, when you serve a significant number of teens and tweens, they have a varying schedule.

So whether they have a job or they have responsibilities in the morning or they're, they sleep in.

So we don't have, you know, that 200 all day, every day,

it

varies.

And it just kind of depends on what the day looks like for kids.

And they don't have to schedule their time to be there at all.

No, when we do summer enrollment, we ask parents and caregivers to give us their best guesstimate of when their kids will be there, but we don't hold them to that.

And what's the biggest impact that you feel the Boys and Girls Club, and I ask you this both, has on the children that go through the program that are there on a regular basis?

You know, I think one of the things that the Boys and Girls Club does is provides that consistent place where kids can walk in and be a kid.

So regardless of what's happening.

in our world and their world, what happened at school, what happened at home, what's happening with their friend.

They walk through the doors and they can go into the gym and they can run it off.

They can hang out with other people.

They can step into the art studio and create something and express themselves.

It's just a place for them and they don't have to manage that other stuff.

Yeah, I know a lot of them have kind of hairy worlds outside of coming to your place for stability.

And I've heard some of those stories before.

Can you give us one of those stories that you so eloquently have

talked about at the harvest dinner, for example.

Yeah.

So in just a couple of weeks, we are getting ready to send our 2026 Youth of the Year off to college.

She's got accepted to UW-Milwaukee, and she's going to start her first day of college.

She's been with us for the past four years.

When she started with us, she actually wouldn't speak to the staff.

And she will tell you that she made some pretty

poor decisions in her behavior choices.

And since then has grown with the support of club staff, of her grandparents, of school people.

She's got a really fantastic mentor who she connected with at the club through our IT program and has just found that support.

And now she's actually giving back to the club.

She's one of our youth development specialists and she's working there this summer.

in our elementary art room, and she wants to pay it forward with what she got out of the club.

And how old was she when she came to the club for the first time?

She was

going into eighth grade, I believe.

And she was just having a tough time.

Yep.

There were all sorts of influences in her life that were impacting her negatively, just personally, mentally, and through her grandparents first and foremost, and then the support of people around her and them choosing to bring her to the club.

She's found this really great community of support

supporting, caring adults that have just helped push her forward, lift her up and be the resources that she needs.

And I would think like when she came in eighth grade, I mean, college probably wasn't even remotely close

to

your

thought

process at that time.

And now to know that she's been accepted and going to go to a four year school is amazing.

She is part of a program that we call Be Great Graduate.

So she's had a one on one mentor with one of our club staff members for the past several years.

And she will tell you, and I know she doesn't mind me sharing this, that she was not doing well academically.

And now she's got all A's and B's.

because of the support of this program.

So our staff goes in and meets

Kathryn Lake

with her

once a week.

Well, he used to, now she graduated.

Kathryn Lake

So

she's got this, has had this support.

And that support for her, if she chooses, will continue into college.

So our graduation specialist will continue to check in on her.

I know her mentor is already trying to figure out ways to go down to Milwaukee to see her.

And it's just, it is not one person.

We are part of the solution for a lot of kids.

And it's even cool.

I know another quick story, but when you talk about we had a

person that was in the program went off to college, graduated and now came back and is working for the club.

Absolutely.

Like roughly ballpark, what percentage of the kids that come through your program would likely not be going to college if it were not for the Boys and Girls Club?

That's a really great question.

And I would hate to guess at that.

We only know when kids tell us, you know, by the time our club members are in junior or senior year, we see them less because they're out doing those things.

The kids that ask for help and ask for support or that we reach out to and help support them.

Those are the kids that that we know are going off to college.

And we don't have a we don't have a lot of eighth graders that listen to the Wausau Business Show.

There's a few, but unfortunately, just a few, just a few.

But if they were listening right now and struggling, you know,

I can imagine myself in eighth grade, if I was going through some hard times, I probably wouldn't, my first thought wouldn't be, I need to get to the boys and girls club.

So what do you say to those kids when they come in to kind of put them at ease?

Because, you know, to keep a kid coming back over and over again, day after day, regularly is a real art form, I would imagine at that age.

I will tell you, it's our staff.

you know, our youth development specialists, this summer we have about 40 of them, and they are a wide range of experiences of backgrounds, about 20% of them are former club members.

So, and that ranges anywhere from 20 to 30%, depending on the year, but it absolutely comes down to our staff, the staff that show up for them consistently that are present for them, that have fun with them, that provide those programs, activities, and it really comes down to the structure and accountability that kids are looking for that they get with our staff.

Okay, so you build the relationships and so you can

they walk in the door and they're like, I don't know about this.

And they're embarrassed.

And obviously, their guard is up.

And you just kind of say, well, if you want to go play ping pong, go play ping pong.

And then your staff takes over from there kind of deal.

That's 100% exactly what

it

is.

Um, and it's the same with our elementary kids, you know, a parent bringing in an eight year old that

is

nervous to be there for the first time.

It's a big building.

There's a lot of space, a lot of noise, a lot of kids.

And so there are many times that if a parent says this is his or her first time, our staff will walk them downstairs and give them a tour and introduce them to another, another kid

Kathryn Lake

and a

staff member is, you know, with kids and teens, it's not instantaneous friendships, but it is with our staff.

If they are with our staff, that is their job is to reach out to the kids, get to know them, learn something about them and build that trust in that ongoing really.

relationship and rapport.

Is that staff going to their homes when they need them to then?

Or how does that work?

Because I would imagine if they went home and they're having a tough time at home that they might feel the desire to reach out to the staff at Boys and Girls Club.

How does that work?

It's like, we'll just see you tomorrow or...

Yeah, that's where our safety standards come into place.

We can't do that outside of club hours, with the exception of our graduation specialists who can do that at school during the day.

But our club staff will call home if there are issues or if we have concerns, we reach out to our community partners, whether that's social services, law enforcement, counseling services, anybody that we can build in a support network for kids.

And not every kid needs that support network, right?

And some kids are people ask, you know, what is a typical club member?

And there isn't one.

Kids show up today with a certain

set of challenges and that could change drastically tomorrow.

It just depends on their situation.

Yeah, I would imagine that it's an awesome cross-section of people and kids that it's a melting pot and that's an only positive thing.

Absolutely.

Yeah, you know, what what you see in a school is what we see at the club.

It's

just a smaller, a smaller version and a wider range of ages in one building.

And all socioeconomic backgrounds and coming from every types of family all over the neighborhood, it's not just kids that are going through a tough time.

Absolutely.

The club is open to all kids and our age group, all kids and teens.

And it really all there's no restrictions based on income, based on zip code, based on family style, anything like that.

So we do have on an annual basis, we serve about 35

different zip codes because somebody might work in, you know, parent or guardian might work in town.

They are living with grandparents for the summer.

There's foster families, different placement situations.

And so we want to make sure that the club is consistent, is affordable, and that caregivers consider us a reliable resource for their families.

And Wausau would not be as great of a place to live and work, or not for the Boys and Girls Club decades that it's been around.

What year was it founded again?

1997.

Next

year is 30 years.

Wow.

Anything

big planned?

We are working on it.

We

are looking forward to unveiling our 30-year

celebration.

Two harvest dinners.

And Ryan, I was just going to mention from a board perspective and you can appreciate this because you've been very gracious with your time over the years and serving in a lot of different boards.

But we can sit

there.

We don't

talk about that in the loss of

business.

We've all been gracious with his time.

He could do more

though.

Craig, go ahead.

What I was going

to say, as a board member, I mean, again, it's just the people that we have running these organizations, right?

I mean, you look at an executive director like Kim and her staff, the things that they do are just amazing and wouldn't be possible without them.

So again, I just give kudos to Kim and all of her staff and the amazing things they're doing with these kids here and the opportunities and the things that they're giving them are pretty amazing.

And the organization wouldn't be able to go on year after year.

if it wouldn't be for the community support and you guys are fundraising every year, how much

to keep the operations going?

Our budget is 2.2 million dollars.

So

you got to raise 2.2, roughly 2 million, 2.2 million, get a little bit of some grants from the state, some grants from the government and whatever, the federal government.

But other than that, it's all on you to raise a couple million bucks every year from the community.

Absolutely.

Not

an easy task.

That's impressive.

Yeah, because you're getting 20 bucks per student for the year, but other than that, it's roughly 2 million.

the bucks that you're raising every year, right?

Absolutely.

That's wild.

What can people do if they want to help with that?

Contribute any listeners out there?

That's a great question, Paul.

Way

to help

out, Paul.

First, we have our online donation system is always available, and that's right at bgclub.com.

But we strongly encourage people to come in and take a tour.

This is a great platform for us to talk about this.

But seeing the club in action is really where it becomes reality.

You say you have a building that's dedicated just for kids.

Come in and see what it looks like to have a building that is dedicated just for kids.

See the interactions of our staff with our club members because it is a game changer.

And for a lot of kids, this is the thing that keeps them going.

The other thing is we have three fundraising events coming up on Thursday, August 6th.

Sixth, yeah.

Is our high tea event that is at the Hilton Garden Inn.

It's celebrating our club girls.

Thursday, November 12th is our largest fundraiser that is a harvest dinner at the Rothschild Pavilion.

That's great.

Paul's been to that.

I have.

Yeah.

I like that one.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Thank you.

So do I.

He raised that paddle

up a lot.

Perfect.

Perfect.

You love hearing that.

That supports our meal and snack program.

And then every April, we host winemakers dinner again at the Hilton.

And that supports our character and leadership development programs.

So that youth of the year that we talked about, somebody like her is our highlight speaker at that.

That's kind of their, they're coming out their celebration event.

And that is the second Thursday in April.

Okay.

And you always do a great job of telling the stories of the kids that have been impacted by the Boys and Girls Club at these events.

And people can just sign up on your website for those events.

Absolutely.

We're always looking to sell tickets.

our sponsorships

event.

Yeah, be

careful.

Bring some Kleenex.

Yeah.

Tear jerkers involved.

Not a dry eye in the group.

And I know what all of these fundraising dinners that you have, the kids are actually helping serve the tables, bust the tables, and are the wait staff of it, which is cool to get to know the kids and see the kids.

Yeah, one

year we went there.

We ended up, I think she was the youth of the year that year.

We needed our table and then she ended up being her babysitter for several months.

Yeah.

That's

great.

Was it

a 501c3 tax?

You're right.

It was.

Kim, you are involved with the Boys and Girls Club so heavily.

What do you do in your free

time?

Yep, that's a great question.

So at my, I love living in Wausau.

There is just so much to do.

So playing outside, kayaking, running, hanging out with my kid, my dog, my family, my friends.

Have you done the kayak paddle crawl?

I have not.

Not yet?

No?

You've heard about it.

I have heard of that.

Yes.

You don't like bar hopping, I think.

I think that's a lot of what they do.

Kayaking takes a

skill.

And it deteriorates with every drink.

Okay, we're reading between the lines.

We got you, Kim.

But you are a whole dig.

You've been to the Hodei Country Music Festival.

I have been and I did go this year.

Who was your favorite?

I will shamefully admit I was only there for two performers and Leanne Rhymes was better than the other

one.

Okay, I like Leanne Rhymes.

For Leanne Rhymes.

Was

Hardy there this year?

So I only saw Leanne Rhymes and Old Dominion.

Oh, I love Old Dominion.

They were

okay.

I think she showed up for the crowd.

Yeah.

Did you see Duff Deimos at all?

No.

Oh, darn it.

Oh, yeah.

Hey, Duff.

Hey, Duff.

Yeah.

Every year he does it, I think it's his last year doing the whole thing, and he comes back another year, which I'm happy about.

Yeah.

So that's awesome.

Well, what have we learned?

We learned a lot about Kim.

We learned that she's a whole day, and we learned a lot of great stuff about the Boys and Girls Club.

We've learned that my own construction is guaranteed to finish on time.

Did he use the word guaranteed?

Yeah, I heard

guaranteed in

there.

My guess is I'll be back on the show

if

it doesn't open.

Correct.

We'll

be checking in with you.

And we've also learned that nobody knows much about Carolyn S.

Mark.

No one knows where the money came

from.

Well, we'll follow up on all that.

Thanks for coming in.

Kim and Craig on the Wausau Business Show.

We really appreciate it.

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Ryan and I'm Paul.

And it was National Intern Day this week, Paul.

Yeah, I heard about that.

Thought we'd call some of the interns up and just tell them hi.

Hi, and thank you for your internship.

Yeah, hey, they're coming back from a paper mill right now, Paul.

Oh, cool.

Guys, you there?

I'm in the

car with Nate.

Oh, hey.

Yeah, you're exactly the two people that we wanted to talk to.

Yeah, the two interns.

Ben and Nate, the two interns.

Hey, guys.

Should I push on speaker?

Sure.

Yeah.

Are they the only two?

Two interns that we have this summer.

I think so.

Oh, guys.

Hey, welcome to the Wausau Business Show, gentlemen.

Hey, guys.

You are honorary rocket industrial interns.

And we know that was national intern day yesterday.

And we want to talk to you about what you're doing today as an intern.

Where are you guys?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So today, as interns for rocket industrial, we went to the paper mill up in Menominee, Michigan.

Oh, way up

there.

Which paper mill does go to?

We went to the by origin paper mill.

Okay.

We got to see the product.

We got to see the process of paper being made from the pulp all the way to the finished product of the, the food paper that you see in.

Yeah.

They're learning.

We're

educating the future.

Yes.

Yes.

Great guys.

Well, did it smell?

Okay.

Yeah,

you'd think it would be pretty, pretty bad.

What's one thing you each learned during your day at the paper mill?

It's like an episode of Mr. Rogers.

Right.

Oh gosh, Nate, you want to start here?

Go ahead, Nate.

This is your,

this is your test.

I don't want to

work in a paper mill.

Okay.

All right.

And Nate, you're in the, you're an accounting intern, right, Nate?

Oh yeah, finance.

Finance.

Okay.

Much better.

Much better.

Yeah.

Big difference.

And Bennett, you're in marketing.

What did you learn?

Marketing?

Marketing and sales.

Yes.

I learned that I learned just, I say the process about making the paper and how

It's very complex.

Like on the surface, it might seem pretty simple.

You just take the pulp and you heat it up and then you flatten out the sheets.

But there's a lot of chemicals that go into it.

It's a very, very complex process.

Yeah.

They got a bleach that pulp, right?

Yeah.

Do they talk about the bleach?

What steps?

What kind of paper are they pumping out of that mill?

Like, is it like sheet paper, you know, like copy paper or is it specific kind food paper?

Wrapping paper for gifts?

There you go.

So just like Rocket, they're SQF certified.

And so a lot of their paper is going to restaurants and big dining establishments.

And it's the paper that you find at the bottom of your restaurant.

Okay.

And where are you guys going, Bennett?

I believe that you're at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, right?

You're a badger.

And Bennett and Nate, where do you go?

I'm a UW Green Bay.

Oh, GB.

I'm supporting the UW

system, both of you,

too.

Yeah.

And where did you guys, Bennett, you went to Wausau West.

He's a warrior.

No

warriors.

Basketball player and pop concert legend.

Yes.

Bennett Madsen.

Bennett, what was the song that you sang for the pop concert?

Last year, the year before.

Remind us.

Oh, God.

I think here I go again by white

snake.

Oh,

that's

a banger, man.

From the 80s.

Great use of the word banger.

Thank you.

What the young folk.

Good.

Good.

And Nate, where did you go to school?

High school.

I went to West.

I went to West too.

I was like right above Bennett.

Also a warrior.

Thank

you.

Were you in the pop concert, Nate?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

What song did you perform?

Oh,

yeah.

I didn't sing very much.

I wasn't a solo guy like Bennett.

Oh, OK.

OK.

Men's Choir kind of deal.

Are you a part of the group?

Yeah, we just did some group stuff.

I don't even remember what we did.

Oh,

I'm sure it was wonderful.

You were at the end.

You participated in the Nylons.

Na na na na.

Hey, hey, hey.

Goodbye.

You did that well.

I'm sure, right?

Oh, they're still doing that.

OK.

Well, what do you guys hope to be in 10 years when you grow up?

What do you guys want to do when you grow up?

Right now, I'm still navigating that and trying to figure it out.

I've always thought of myself as a leader, and so I really like to take a management role and lead a group in some fashion.

Like a

sales team

or a marketing

team?

Hopefully a role that I can do that.

Okay.

That makes sense.

And you're 19, correct, Bennett?

Yes, I am.

Okay.

And Nate, how old are you?

Maybe 20.

Just 20.

20.

Okay, good math.

What do you want to be when you grow up, Nate?

Well, I'm majoring in finance and accounting at Green Bay.

Both.

And I'm studying to get my CPA.

Okay,

take it easy.

And I don't want to go into public accounting really.

I just know that with those...

hedge fund with that certification it's a lot easier opens a lot a lot of doors to do a bunch of different things

venture capital

finance though

venture capital hedge fund something like that wall street

finance bro.

We'll see about that.

And

what's the new wall for all?

Okay.

Well, he went to prison for 10 years.

Well, I won't get caught.

Oh, boy.

Oh, boy.

Okay.

And the last question that we have for you gentlemen, as you are winding down your past the last few weeks of your internship here, which

you've done great at by the way.

Yeah.

Great interns is that where do you hope to where do you hope to

to live when you graduate from college.

Good question.

Where do you hope to live?

Right, good.

It's not a trick

question.

It's not a trick question.

So where

do you hope to live?

Where do you hope to live?

Where are you going to end up?

Individually.

Well,

we're together.

I

hope to have a nature outdoors guy myself.

So I'd really love to spend a few years out west.

Oh, OK.

All right,

guys.

We love it.

We love you.

We got Chef Travis Tesca on the other line.

We got to go, guys.

OK.

Thanks, guys.

Love

you.

Appreciate you.

Thank you.

Travis Tesca is on the show, everybody.

Here he is.

Hey, Travis.

Hello, sir.

No.

Sorry, we were just talking to the interns.

You're much more important.

We had to let the interns go, although they are great.

Not let them go with their job.

We had to let them go off the call just to clarify.

Got it.

Got it.

Sorry, my phone never.

I was waiting for it to ring and I've been working around the house doing packing and stuff and not paying attention.

Sorry I missed you.

It's an honor to have you on, sir.

Yeah, we're glad to have you.

One of Wasa's famous celebrity chefs.

Tell us about, well, one of the key people in the iconic right place, right?

Right house.

restaurant.

Yeah,

right.

The right place.

Right

place.

Okay.

And the heading up the culinary program and NTC very successfully the past number of years.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And now.

And now what Travis?

I was just going to start at the beginning.

Okay.

Please do.

Please do.

So it actually is ironic.

It's 20 years ago, almost to like

like the week that we started the right place.

So the right place that I was trying to remember and I tried to find it, but I already packed all that stuff up.

I believe it was like August 6th is when we opened.

So, and that would have been in 2006.

So I moved here in May of 2006.

I've been here 20 years, almost exactly.

Where'd you move

from?

Where were you at before?

Well, so originally I'm from Auburn, Dale.

And I worked for the owner of the right place, Patty, in Marshfield at Castle Loma Fine Dining and Be sure I worked there for two years.

And then she had the idea of starting a restaurant in a house and she wanted to do it in Wausau.

So we actually, we started that business together.

I owned a small portion of the restaurant with her.

People loved

that place.

And the idea was always that I was going to purchase it from her and run it as my own restaurant.

When that time came, we just couldn't come to an agreement on the price.

And so she sold it to another chef.

And then we all know he didn't, unfortunately, didn't do so well.

So it had a

different vision for customer service

and things like

that.

And that sadly didn't end well.

Oh, well.

Yeah.

One thing leads to another.

Yeah.

You got to move on, right?

With life.

Yeah, exactly.

So then...

Then I actually worked in the automotive industry briefly for a few years just kind of, you know, I was looking for for chef work, but it was not, it was not a friendly market here in wasa that, that had a pay scale that could match what I had made when I was at the right place and I had a mortgage and you know, whatever.

So the automotive industry helped me out a little bit and then.

I was kind of approached by an old food vendor who worked for North Central Technical College, and he was a dean there, and he was like, hey, we're going to start a culinary program.

I know you always talked about wanting to be a part of that.

And he's like, so here's the dean's name that's going to be in charge of it, and you should reach out.

So I did.

And she said, cool.

We're not ready to hire anybody yet or whatever.

When we are, I'll let you know.

A couple months later, whatever, I got an email from her and I applied and interviewed and they liked me and so they hired me to start the culinary program.

When I was hired, it was a list of classes and that was the only thing that existed

for the culinary program.

Zero students, yes, zero kids.

Uh, yeah, there was, there was no students yet.

There was nothing yet.

It was just a list of classes.

So I started at the tech in January of 2016.

Yeah.

And they actually hired me to start the corner program that fall.

So I actually worked there for like eight months, but now the getting everything ready.

Yeah.

There was nothing, right?

Like the kitchens didn't exist

when

I started

literally

nothing in the classes.

They had the list of classes and they had the approval from the state to start that program or to run those classes, I should say.

So I wrote all the curriculum for the first year and picked out all the textbooks.

Where

did you go to culinary school?

I went to Johnson and Wales University in Denver.

And is

that the same place as chef Adam went?

Is that the same place that chef Adam went?

No, chef Adam from Chow.

He went to somewhere

in DC.

Oh DC, but he worked out in Denver, Colorado.

I remember.

Yeah, okay.

He worked

in Colorado.

That's what it was.

So did

chef Nate from RedEye did a bunch of work in Colorado too.

Oh

cool.

But chef Adam was yeah, out, out.

It's like in Maryland, I think, where he

went.

Yeah, that's right.

And

then Chef Nate went to the Art Institute, I believe, in Minneapolis

for sure.

And then how many kids, how many students, I guess I should say, were there when you left NTC?

How did you, how many did you back?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, so we had...

Uh, anywhere between, uh, you know, the capacity of the program was 15.

Uh, and there were many years where we took 15 and then there were some years where we took less.

Um, COVID was a little difficult.

Kathryn Lake

Open was hard on us and we had a

couple of years where enrollment was very light

Kathryn Lake

right

after COVID.

Um, we had actually grown the program.

So I, so I got it off the ground, got it rocking.

Um, like I said, designed the kitchens, wrote the curriculum, kind of got all that rocking.

And then that next year, we hired another chef and then he came on and started teaching the second year after the first year was going.

So then there were two of us and we did that with an assistant for a few years.

And then actually in 2019, our enrollment was so strong that we needed a third chef.

We were going to have two sections every year because it was really good.

So we

brought on a third chef and then COVID happened.

Then

the enrollment went back down, but we kept the third chef and added a hospitality program.

And then four years ago, they asked me to start the butchering program.

So then I

did the same thing.

I started the butchering program from the ground up

and

designed the cold lab space and the slaughter trailer and kind of gathered all the knowledge that we needed to get that thing rocking.

And then I taught that for three years.

So cool.

I taught the butchering program just.

Just me taught that we did.

I mean, I had an assistant occasionally.

I had a help, but that was kind of like my program to start and run.

So how

of a successful run is the point there?

Absolutely.

Unbelievable.

So we had we had pretty good enrollment in the butchering program too.

especially for a new program.

It's kind of a niche thing.

So you're not going to get a thousand students.

You know,

I mean, a lot of people through there.

Good enrollment.

I don't know what this fall looks like.

Well, it's not your problem anymore.

Is

it?

Yeah,

pretty much.

So now tell us where you're moving to.

Because we, yeah.

So, yeah, back in March, I was just scrolling around on LinkedIn one afternoon or one evening, and the Culinary Institute of America was hiring for chef instructors, and I thought, well, I'm a chef instructor.

Uh-huh.

I

can do

that.

Uh-huh.

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