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Good afternoon, everybody.
Todd Albaugh along with Mr. Aaron Zommers, our producer and engineer.
It is six minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this Friday, TGIF, August, August.
November 14th, 2025.
It is a great day to be a Wisconsinite.
Welcome in, everybody.
High atop State Street to block off the TAC Capital Square at the intersection of state and fair child.
Ms.
Rosamers, we have made it.
to three years.
Congratulations.
Thanks to you, too.
Our third anniversary.
We have made it three years.
Thankful for that.
And welcome in, everybody.
It's going to be a great show today.
You're going to want to stick around for the entire thing.
Lots of news and information here in hour number one.
And then hour number two, I believe our old friend, Dan Schaefer, is gonna be making an appearance, our third anniversary, helping us recombobulate a little bit.
The theme for this show, Zomers, as my seventh grade teacher, public school teacher in Richland Center Middle School, Andy Spees, was fond of saying, math as in life.
It's always good to pause and reflect.
pause a reflect and So as a pause reflect type of show so we got Dan Schaefer in Trigby Olson Maybe popping in for a moment a couple of old friends of ours on the show Kevin O'Connor my old broadcast partner lots of people to help celebrate the third anniversary and Zomeras right off the bat We would not have gotten here to this point our third anniversary without you, buddy.
And thank you very much.
When you start, we got thrown together.
Mike Crute said, you got two weeks to do a show, to put it together, a three-hour show, and it starts in two weeks.
Can you do it?
And here's Zomers.
He's going to be your producer.
And we went to Nevada Pizza, which is no longer on University Avenue anymore.
And I said, Zomers, the number one thing to me is loyalty.
I don't care about anything.
And you know what?
You held up the bargain, and I appreciate that very much.
Very good.
I appreciate it.
It's been a lot of fun and more to come.
More to come, as Johnny Carson used to say here, on our third anniversary.
And speaking of Carson, speaking of Letterman, one of my big idols there.
On the Letterman show, the tie for the most appearances by guest Tony Randall, the great actor Tony Randall, and Regis Philbin.
And for us, as far as a political guest, no one has appeared on this program more over our three years than Wisconsin State Senator Kelder-Royce, who incidentally just happens to be a candidate for Wisconsin governor.
And she's kind enough on short notice to make an appearance here in the studio, balloons and all.
Senator Royce, how are you?
am thrilled.
people say, you know, you and Kel to have a really good rapport on the show.
I said, because she's so easy to talk to, she's a normal person, and that's what makes it fun.
We
And I think that...
You know, that's not a combination that we hear a lot, especially represented in media these days.
And so it's always, you know, I always learn from you.
I always have a fun time and nobody picks bumper music like Thalmer's
right
I know.
Maybe an election night party, you know?
Oh, there you go.
That could be possible.
Yeah, that could be possible.
Well, let's just start off with this because thank you for the kind of words.
One of the things I've said this before this show, and I don't care what side of the aisle it is, and it's more rare today than ever, people in elected office who have the self-awareness to say, you know what?
Maybe I can learn from other people.
You know what?
I need to listen and not adjust their beliefs, but how they go about their business.
And I don't know...
a better legislator in the state capital who's done that during the course of your career and matured as a legislator while staying true to your principles than you.
And that's why I appreciate someone who can be self-reflective of everybody in your district.
It's true, and I think that's why people, as I've been watching this race, it's in its early stages.
We're just now under a year from the general and a little bit longer from the primary.
But who's
I think this was people that was drawing people to your campaign.
Give us an update, if you would, from the campaign trails.
You travel around Wisconsin all 72 counties.
What have you been hearing so far?
What are Wisconsinites talking about?
Well, you know, what I hear again and again is people are so sad about what is happening in our country.
They feel scared.
They feel disempowered by what the Republican regime is doing and the harms not only that we're experiencing right now with the tariffs and the chaos.
and what that's doing to farmers and small businesses.
But the fear of what is coming in the future with changes to health care, with more destabilizing bills being passed to the federal government with the shutdown.
So they want a leader that is willing to stand up to Trump and try to protect us from those harms.
At the same time, there's a real hunger out there to say, why can't Democrats actually get stuff done when they govern?
And if we're going to give you power,
We want to make sure that you're going to use it to fund our public schools and not just talk about it, not just say, oh, this is what we care about, but actually to do it and deliver.
And so it is definitely higher wages.
It's lower costs.
It's having more freedoms protected, freedom to vote, freedom to control your body, freedom to be who you want to be and live the life you want to live.
Those are consistent, whether I'm in urban, rural areas, north, south, any part of the state.
I just talked to so many people that have the same kind of common
goals.
We're talking state senator Kelder Royce of the 26th district here in Dane County running for governor of the state of Wisconsin.
You mentioned public schools.
I want to bring this up again because it was more in the news again here last couple of weeks.
The University of Wisconsin system.
Wow, I have been critical of both parties in this situation I've been critical of Jay Roth when the president of the system and the border regions who've kind of gone dormant I've been critical and I'm a guy who voted for Tony Evers in every single one of his races even with all due respect the primary
I think many of the reasons I voted for Tony Evers in 2018 are, I'll just say it, probably why I'm gonna vote for you this time, because I think you can relate to a lot of people.
And that's just the fact.
But more importantly, right now, for this discussion, I've been in Muscatie, Wisconsin, in Southwest Wisconsin,
miles from my hometown, Richland Center.
You and former state rep, Katrina Shanklin, came out there, held a listening session about the two of your colleges, about the closures.
You were reflective.
You didn't blame it on one singular party and you were about solutions.
Why can't we get more anybody?
I don't care Democrat, Republicans or independents talking about this.
I mean, I think, you know, we have a lot of legislators who don't necessarily have the long, longer view of history because so many folks in the Capitol are new.
And that's certainly true on the Democratic side, right?
There are very few legislators who were there during Act 10.
There are very few legislators, you know, who remember what it was like when we actually funded our university system, right?
When we were a leader in public education and K-12.
And so in that scenario, I think it's hard to really have full context and feel confident about what you're saying.
And, you know, I think that oftentimes because we live in such a culture that...
loves political conflict and is always trying to figure out like what's the dividing point and what separates us and how can we put people against each other to get more clicks?
You know that kind of political culture doesn't really lend itself to elected officials being willing to Talk to say things that you might sound dumb you might put your foot in your mouth and and in an environment that's uncontrolled like a listening session You know people are a little bit afraid and and I guess I could understand that instinct, but I just think
Boy, at a minimum, our job is to let people be heard.
I guess to put a point on it, we talked about this a couple weeks ago, that the Board of Regents now is looking at changing curriculum, having a general ed curriculum across all four years, which in my opinion...
is giving Jay Rothman, the Board of Regents, a reason to close the remaining two years, because they're going to say, well, that's what the two years were there for.
Now you can get these.
I think that's going to be the final nail in the coffin for the two years.
And what I'm hearing from my sources that they are now looking at for your campuses in this state.
Is that hyperbole, Senator Royce, or do you think there's something to this?
It's reasonable to be deeply concerned about the future of the universities of Wisconsin.
I think that we have seen a complete abandonment of public higher education from the Republicans now currently in the legislature, and it's very dangerous.
Who's going to be hurt by this?
It is not kids who already have opportunities, the kids that can go out of state, the kids that can go to get into UW Madison or Milwaukee.
It's young people in the state who are working hard.
They have good grades.
They have the work ethic, but they don't have the money.
They don't have the connections.
And frankly, it's too hard for them to envision going far from home.
They're the ones whose opportunities are being cut
short.
Yeah, and my criticism is not reserved to the Democrats on this, say as you, say as you.
But my former party have underfunded the UW system in public education for years.
You have State Senator Howard Markline, who took my former boss's place, who wouldn't make a.
mole on Dale Schultz's arm, I'll keep it clean.
But he's put 999s, for those of you that aren't familiar, it's kind of a secret catch-all bill in the joint finance to fund UW Washington, which Governor Vito is vetoed.
But he wouldn't even do it for his own college, he and Tony Kurtz in Richland Center.
These are the types of games the Republicans are playing.
from.
And do we have until 20 after or the bottom of the hour?
I'm
think I've got two.
Are we okay at the bottom of the hour or no?
Yeah.
All right.
All right, 30.
I want to cut you off here.
We've got a couple of minutes here before the first breakaway.
But yes, Republicans are doing this secret stuff.
So the bottom line, Senator, somebody I trust and respect, what's it going to take?
for both parties to cut the BS and actually say, is it the audit bureau doing a full audit?
Who's gonna get the truth?
If you're a governor, how are you gonna get the truth on this and actually preserve, save the Wisconsin idea?
And if we want that to happen, we have to have a governor who is willing to put her political capital on the line and do it.
I mean, this isn't exactly a both sides kind of issue because consistently Republicans have been more hostile to public higher ed.
And Democrats have wanted to fund it, but they've felt more constrained because we've had this Republican dominated legislature for 30 of the last 32 years.
So there isn't exactly an equivalency.
But the truth is that even when Democrats have power,
Too often we fail to use it and that's really frustrating to me.
Thank you
Honestly,
Being in government if you're not going to use the power you might have to make people's lives better Are you going to succeed all the time?
No is every idea you have going to be perfect and work out not always But you have to be willing to take those risks you have to have the courage to do it to try to lead and I think
That's why I decided I had to get into this governor's race, because I don't want to see us let another opportunity slip through our
fingers.
Yeah.
Amen to that.
And sort of fresh in here, a Democrat say that you got to use the power when you have it.
I mean, you know, we all campaign on, on these things like affordable healthcare, you know, more access to housing and childcare, public schools.
But where, where is the commitment?
And yes, you can't do that when you have Republicans controlling the legislature and a gerrymandered majority.
But you've got to do everything you can with what you have.
And we're not going to be in that situation next session.
So no excuses.
Yeah.
We're going to come back to talk more with states that are Keldor Royce.
I like what she used there.
The next woman governor, female governor, you know, madam.
I have a good ring to it.
Don't you think Keldor?
Keldor Royce is our guest for the next 10 minutes or so.
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I shouldn't say that.
Senator Royce, to me, thank you very much.
Senator Kelvin Royce is our guest here in studio on our third anniversary.
It is a party.
We're glad you're along with us.
Senator Royce, also a Democratic candidate for governor of the state of Wisconsin, meet her.
If you haven't, she's all around the state.
Find out more about her candidacy.
She's one of these people and we had former state rep Fred Clark in.
this last uh earlier this week my old colleague running for governor and i said the same thing about him if you were for
right sorry
yeah he's not running against me no no no for congress and i said the same thing with former rep uh fred clark now running for congress in the seventh about you you're the type of people you're real you're conversational and when people meet you and talk to you they like you
Yeah.
And just like US Senator Tammy Baldwin, Kelder Royce finishes her beer.
She doesn't just go and take photo ops, you understand?
She's finished in the damn beer.
Well, it's actually
Oh, oh, oh, oh, woman after my own hard old-fashioned.
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One of our favorite callers on our third anniversary, nobody knows her facts better than Joe in Madison.
Joe, thanks for calling on MDX.
What's up?
Oh, thanks for that.
I just wanted to say I've met Kelda and I would agree.
I would love to have an old fashioned with her.
Marta's all get out.
One of the things, two points that I want to make real quick.
Number one, you were talking about the UW system.
Let us remember people.
This is the economic impact of the UW system is 24 billion every year for every dollar invested by the state.
We get a $23 return because it supports 167,000 jobs and one
1.1 billion in state and local taxes to say nothing of what we're getting in terms of the workforce development and also the number of people who are employed by Wisconsin alumni research and all the new economic growth we get out of a science and technology that comes out of the university.
So it is a moneymaker force and anybody who would want to start closing down campuses and either two year or four year, it's nuts and not a
One point I wanted to make about Kelda that I was very impressed by is that she has advanced the idea of every citizen in the state, as I understand it, may have a chance to take advantage of the same pension system that the state workers have, that to expand that so that everyone could have a form of pension through that system.
What that would give people is what they originally started out with was back in the 30s when they were thinking about doing this, 1930s, it was, gee, we want to have it for the people.
in the private sector too.
They weren't able to make it happen then.
Let's make it happen now.
Thanks a lot.
Thanks, Joe.
You're amazing.
Thanks for your listorship for three years.
We appreciate it, Senator Royce.
This is, we want everybody to have retirement security and frankly,
health security too.
Those are two huge economic issues that hold back young people and middle-aged people from feeling like they're able to be free to thrive.
And opening up the state health insurance plan and the state pension to anybody to be able to buy in at a fair rate, not only strengthens those programs, but enables people to, for instance,
leave your corporate job to go start a business, right?
Become an entrepreneur.
Take time out of the workforce to be a caregiver for a parent or a child.
Go back to school if you want to, right?
There's all kinds of things, or even just retire early.
So many people are tied to their job because of that healthcare or the pension.
And think about the freedom we could unleash for our communities if people were able to have another option, a low-cost, high-quality option.
I mean, it seems still a common sense, Senator.
Things that the folks at the state capitol get.
should be available to all.
And I think that's not radical.
I think that's just taking care of your friends.
It's kind of
About two and a half minutes left, State Senator Kelton Royce.
We talked a while back after the tragedy in Minnesota, which shook a lot of people up.
You're an elected official already.
Share with our audience again across the state.
What drives you to be our next governor?
Why are you doing this?
This is a very challenging time.
We must have a governor with the courage to stand up to Trump when it's necessary and to protect us from the harms that are coming down from Washington.
Whatever it is, whether it's the tariffs, whether it's the corruption,
whether it's the lawlessness, we have to have a governor who's willing to tell the truth about what he is doing and fight to protect our democracy at this critical moment.
At the same time, we are going to have a once-in-a-generation opportunity to help move the state forward, to change the trajectory of Wisconsin, to a place that is worthy of our progressive heritage and our motto, to fund our public schools, to make sure every person has affordable health care, to raise wages and to lower costs on the most important things from health care to child care to housing.
I want to do that.
I know that we can, but only if we have strong leadership from the governor's office.
The legislature is wonderful, but, you know, we're not going to hurt ourselves.
We have to have strong leadership from the governor's office to do this.
One of the best political answers I've ever heard, I'm not just saying this because you're here, Trig V. Olson, who has worked for a lot bigger people than I have in politics, he heard it, and he texted me afterwards, and he said, blank, and he blanked, that was fantastic.
And I said, I asked you earlier this year, I said,
How can you how can you win the Democratic primary and you said I'm not running for the Democratic primary?
I'm running to be governor in the state of Wisconsin
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
I want to thank you for being with us, the most often political guest over the last three years on this program as we celebrate our anniversary of this show and hope to see you soon again on the campaign trail or somewhere.
Senator Royce, you're amazing and I wish you all the luck out there and I hope you're our next governor.
Well, it's a pleasure.
Our pleasure is ours.
Stay there.
Keller Royce.
Get to know her.
She may well be our next governor of the state of Wisconsin.
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Welcome back to the Tileball Show on the Civic Media Ready Network.
35 minutes now, past the hour of two o'clock on this Friday.
T-G-I-F November 14th, 2025.
Aaron Zomers, the incomparable Aaron Zomers on the board.
We have been together for three years, and yes, ladies and gentlemen, November 14th is our third anniversary, and that is what we are celebrating today.
If you're watching this on the stream, Facebook.
Twitter, Twix, X, whichever you want to call it.
Wherever you're on YouTube, we've got the balloons up because it is our third anniversary.
Time goes by when you're having fun.
can't
Yes.
And thanks for three years.
I ordered it on Monday.
And so here we have a cake today.
And yeah, it's a batch bakehouse great independent bakery on Willy Street.
here in Madison.
Yeah, vanilla and raspberry with buttercream.
All right, our third anniversary.
Thank you all for joining us for our third anniversary.
Much more to go here coming up on the big program.
You want to join us.
And by the way, many thanks to State Senator Kelver Royce.
How fantastic is she?
The most often political guest here was frequent.
Guest on the show over the last three years politically Kelvin Royce.
We appreciate her taking time and being here today And she she enjoys a brandy old-fashioned our our friend our colleague host of mornings and packed quite low every morning from six until nine on the civic media radio network Maybe a Patrick if you if you stand by because trippy is gonna I think stream yard in an hour, too
So Patrick, if you want to stream the hour in and join us in hour two, you're more than welcome, but he's watching now.
And he says, old fashions are especially good at Wissota Lodge.
AKA his house.
Yes.
Let's do your next civic media interview on our remote.
So Kelda is in.
Senator Royce is in.
Maybe I can get up there because Pat, quite low, honest to God, I've been, I've been honored enough to enjoy them on the shores of Lake Wissota.
He has a lovely wife.
And Dr. Krightlow, to you and me, thank you very much.
So yeah, thanks, Pat, for tuning in.
Thanks for... What a guy Pat Krightlow is for three years, coming on our little dog and pony show.
He's Mr. Anchorman for how many years, former state senator, broadcaster extraordinaire, and yet he puts up with us every Wednesday.
So we appreciate that.
And a quaff of better hair.
you will not find a nicer man as well.
Pat Crightlow, we appreciate him.
855-752-4842.
Let's go to the phone lines.
Want to talk a little politics or third anniversary talk?
One of our great callers, one of our great listeners, we got to meet him and hang out down in Waukesha at the world premiere of...
No Packers, no life.
It
It was.
He's also been at the premiere of the Brewer's
Just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewer's Troy in Mount Horrib, listening on WMDX.
Troy, thanks for holding on.
What do you got?
No
problem.
And both were a lot of fun.
And I appreciate you bringing me.
Well, it was our honor, our pleasure.
And congratulations on three years.
I never caught the morning show.
I only caught the afternoon.
Not a lot of people did.
I missed out in the beginning.
So I
have a question.
Yeah, give it to
me.
John and Gordy blew the answer.
All
right.
Where are you going
next?
Here, I'm here for now.
Stay tuned to hour two.
That's the
meeting.
Where do you
have the meeting?
Stay tuned.
That was
the meeting.
All I heard was you.
All right.
Say it, all right.
Well, we'll be around.
We'll be around for a while.
So thank you, Troy.
I appreciate it.
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
Tom in Middleton, listening on WMDX.
Tom, what do you got for us?
Tom, in the middle, Tom is there.
It
time.
Very good, Tom.
You want to call back.
That's great.
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Mark in Prairie du Sac.
Mark, what do you got for us?
Great conversation going on there.
Both the pension fund, that we should duplicate that for the private sector as well as the health insurance.
I mean, the bigger the pool, the better would be for the state and for a citizenry.
Now, let's remember this attack on education.
It just kind of crystallized on my mind.
The attack on education is the attack on democracy itself, on the republic itself, because the founders, for all their faults, a lot of them were educated.
They were self-educated, and a lot of them had sought higher education at that time, but Jefferson promoted the idea of
public education and the idea that they want to do away with the wisconsin idea which is not to produce little cogs for you know for for whatever kind of labor they would you know they that uh... the ruling class wants us to be part but to produce citizens and that's what education is all about it's produced educated citizenry and the education that it promotes the economy is is a benefit of that but the primary is that
We need to have an educated citizen in this country because the attack that they're making right now is simply an attack on the idea of the republic itself, I think, because the republic itself came out of the Enlightenment, and the Enlightenment came from the freedom of thought that created that very same enlightenment, to free ourselves from the old world to the new world of liberty.
well said.
preamble of the Constitution lays out what the Constitution is all about.
And part of that is to promote the general welfare.
It doesn't say promote wealth for the wealthy.
It's to promote the general welfare.
And I can't put it more succinctly than what our preamble actually lays out, because it is duplicated in the Constitution itself, where the general welfare is part of Section 8 of the Constitution.
and that the limits on government rather than the limits on people.
Well said, Mark, as always, and appreciate your listenership for three years on our three anniversary here, third year anniversary.
Always appreciate Mark's perspective, and he says, here's a guy who knows history, Mark in the sack.
For many years, he would call many months, he would call Mark in the sack, and they said, no, you have to ask me, Mark in prayer in the sack.
But my heart
always marked from the sack
about.
Right.
Well, that too.
Thank you, Mark.
Always appreciate it.
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On this, the third anniversary of the title ball show, our friend.
Our ongoing contributor, Mr. Jeff Perry, is on the line, my former colleague at WRCO Richland Center, my classmate from Richland Center High School, and the host of his own program, Across the Pond, not the Atlantic, but like, Medota.
Jeff Perry from WVMO, Jenny Perry,
what do you got?
Hey, Todd, I'm not actually watching on Twix, but I am eating a Twix, so my mouth is full.
That's fine, that's fine.
I just wanted to uh to say congratulations on three years and I'm really not great putting these things in words So I would like to tell you how I feel in a song.
Oh fantastic.
All right.
Here we go.
No, I'm just I thought maybe had something that'd be great But I do want to say something sincere sincerely
What I like the most about your program, and there's a lot to like.
As you know, I listen practically every day.
And we appreciate that.
You're one of three.
Well, thank you.
My mom and sister are the other ones, if we go ahead.
And so there's one thing that comes through very, very clearly when listening to your program.
It doesn't
matter what story you're covering.
And I'm, this is sincerely, I'm not screwed.
It doesn't
matter what story you're covering.
It doesn't matter what guest you have on.
It doesn't matter what bit you're doing.
What comes through time and again over and over again is that Todd, you care.
You care about this state.
You care about this country.
You care about people.
You care.
And I think it goes back to our roots at WRCO where we were a very local.
radio station and we really got involved in the community but just congratulations three years on the air is quite a feat in this business and and that's nothing to sneeze at so congratulations and thank you for caring all this time because it's very obvious that you do.
Jeff, hang on, don't go anywhere.
Number one, thank you very much for the very kind words.
I really, really appreciate that, especially coming from you.
And I think you're onto something that is much larger than me or this program.
I mean, your dad, Rod Perry, who ran WRCO for several years, you learned from him.
You started, how old were you when you first started on radio at RCO?
14.
14, yes.
That's a true story.
Jeff Perry was doing an air shift at RCA when he was 14.
You know, I was an old man.
I didn't start until I was 17.
But I think you're still right.
And, you know, didn't you have Mr. Speeds for math as well?
Middle school?
No, I did not.
Oh, you did not.
All right.
But, you know, he was fond of saying math is in life.
You got to pause and reflect.
And I think on this third anniversary of the show, it's an appropriate time to do that.
And you and I spent a lot of time, as you said, at WRCO, Richland Center doing local radio and learn from people like your dad and Phil Knee and Ron Fruit and Ray Schrader.
And the list goes on and on.
And if it wasn't for those people,
you and I wouldn't still have this privilege to have a microphone every day.
And I hope that it's kept alive for the next generation.
You've got Zomras here.
You've got Parker.
You've got Dom.
All these young people that still get radio.
And isn't that cool, Jeff?
Very much so.
And I don't know.
Not that long ago, people might have thought that radio was a dying medium.
I do not believe that that's true.
I think that it's in a renaissance right now, and I think that your show has contributed to that renaissance.
But the new generation coming up, yes.
My son, Henry, is about to go to college, and he's been touring colleges.
and got to tour the college radio station at Stevens Point, and hey, there are some young people out there that are doing some, that are going to be doing some great things.
It's very, very, very, very fun to see.
Yeah.
No, I think you're absolutely right.
And Jeff agrees, disagree.
I've said this on the show.
You've got student journalists, is what they're called.
I think they should just be called journalists who happen to be in J school, whether it's the Badger, Harold, or Daily Cardinal, or many of the other papers, the Eau Claire paper, the student.
I mean, these people are doing some of the best work right now, Jeff.
Oh, absolutely.
And part of it is that they're not tied to corporate purse strings, but part of it is their passion and their just desire to tell the truth.
I'm very, very excited about the younger generation.
I think they're going to do great things.
I could not agree more.
And let me just take this opportunity in the third year of this third anniversary of this show to thank you because a lot of people might not realize that some of the.
the zaniness and that part of the show, the having fun doing it part as a result of myself and Jeff and our co-executive producer of this program, Chris Pauls, another Richland Center native, putting heads together early, early on in this show.
And we would not have made it, Jeff, to three years without you and your support and your zaniness.
And it's one of the favorite parts for me of this program when you call in with something just, let's be honest, stupid, but funny to say, and I love that.
about you and nobody knows nobody knows letterman history this is a true story I've told before in college Jeff Perry had every episode of late night with David Letterman on VHS in his kitchen cabinets
has it survived the attic Jeff please tell me it survived the attic
they're still there
all
right
I and I've only digitized a few tapes, but the ones that I've that I've worked on so far have still played which is kind of amazing fantastic
Jeff Perry are ongoing contributor.
Love you my friend We'll see you soon and listen to him over on WVMO here in the Minona area great
WBA Award winner, Jeff Perry.
Pardon me.
Thank you, Jeff.
We'll talk to you soon.
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That's right.
It's a party.
It's a three year anniversary party.
We have made it Summer's Live for three years.
November 14th, 2022, we signed on the
We
And our friend, our colleague, the senior producer of this program, Luke Mathers, had to fill in on the board and great as always.
Great as always.
And thus began, I think that's where the Tuesday tangents Luke started.
I believe so.
Because back then, as an earlier caller pointed out, we were on for three hours from eight until 11.
And let me just be honest, it was not great radio for three hours.
But we filled it.
And then after us, our friend and former colleague, Kristen Brie, and Jane McNair came on with As Goes Wisconsin.
That was the lineup.
And we, Zomers, you and I, we were only on Richland Center, Wasaw, and Amory.
I believe so, yeah.
And then from there, we earned our way up, and then President Mike Crute said,
Welcome.
No, he said, he said, I'll put you on.
I'll put you on the state line network.
And God bless crudy for doing that and for sage.
And, uh, and so we got this opportunity for three years to be crossed, uh, across the state.
So, uh, celebrating three years here on the old civic media radio network, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.
Dick in Madison on WMDX.
Dick, thanks for calling.
Let's see.
Well, congratulations on three years to both of you.
We appreciate that.
It
went by all too fast.
And who else would let me bloviate with former Senator Schultz like I did a couple of years ago?
I don't know if you remember it.
He was two years out of me in high school.
I forgot that.
And I started talking about high school.
And you just let us carry on with that for a little while.
But the other thing that I think of your high school friend put it real well,
But I think of the word sincerity when I think of both of you guys.
Well, thank you, Dick.
That means a lot.
And I think that if this show has been successful for three years in any way, shape or form, it's because I just said for the day one was Zomers.
I don't know how else to be anything else, but Todd and it's really hard for me to act that way.
And so I said, you know,
I will never hold a candle to Johnny Carson or David Letterman or go down the less, but these are people that I aspired to be.
I knew I didn't have the talent to be, but I aspired, and they were just from all accounts, they were largely themselves on the air.
And that's the first part of it, and Dick, the other part of the reason that this show has been successful in any way, shape, or form is because of people like you.
are callers all across the state of Wisconsin who take your valuable time and dial in a goofball like me every day, and have stayed with us on this, keep me honest, five time changes in three years?
I believe five is correct.
Five.
So we've been moved around the dial five different times in terms of time.
And people like you, Dick, have followed us and found us and tuned in.
And so thank you and everybody else for giving us the opportunity to be here for three years, because our rear ends would have been out the door if people wouldn't have tuned in.
So thank you, Dick.
You bet.
It's been great.
Really appreciate you, Dick.
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
I've forgotten Dick and Dale, Dick, it sounds like a nursery rhyme, right?
Dick and Dale.
Yeah, they went to, I think now Dick's gone, but Madison Central, I think together, which became the old MATC just down the street from where we are at and then finished up at Madison West or so I believe.
But isn't that one of the, especially back when we were three hours, but even since we've been two, I think one of the cool opportunities over the last three years has been this blessing.
this opportunity to have actual
Oh, definitely.
And to hear, you know, we talk on here and we blab all day, give our stories and our perspectives, but it's always great to hear yours, especially, you know, it really can be a small world, because Dick and Madison is not the only one who's called in and been like, hey, I know this person that's on your show really well.
Right.
But
they have that because so often now,
Everything is in three minute or two minute or one minute It's increments and and you don't have the time to have Actual conversations you're too young to remember zombers, but I do it was pretty young, but I remember what the tonight show was 90 minutes and You know Johnny Carson or who could have long actual conversations on television with guests and now of course
whether it's Colbert or Kimmel or Fallon, whoever.
It's basically, okay, here's your book or here's what you're plugging.
Let's do that.
And on the rarest of occasions, on the biggest of guests, then they'll allow the host to have maybe a 20 or 30 minute block, Barack Obama or whoever it might be.
But too often immediate today, it's all boiled down to these little snippets.
And I think one of the great blessings of this show and this network for the past three years has been
to be given the freedom and the opportunity to have long actual conversations where you could actually build up a little momentum and the listener, hopefully, you all have gotten something out of those over the last three years.
conversations
other people.
Good point.
We've invited a lot of people, not all covers, but we've invited people.
Not all of them respond
That's how it goes.
Here now on our third anniversary, you'll recall I visited the CBS World Headquarters out in New York, back in high school, and I bought a CBS mug.
And what was it, last year or earlier this year?
It broke.
I think it was earlier this year.
I've had it for 30 some years.
But I got a replacement at Etsy.
So here I have my CBS mug here, my replacement.
And then, of course, the original.
You shouldn't say his name anymore, but I'm going to.
Charlie Rose, Gail King, and Nora O'Donnell, CBS This Morning.
Chris Licht, in my opinion, created one of the best programs on television of CBS This Morning there for the news.
And so those are my CBS mugs I have, and right now I've got my Milwaukee Brewers mug.
All right, come on back after the news, whether it's sports, a big announcement.
You are not going to want to miss it on our third anniversary.
Hold your hats in hallelujahs.
Toddy's going to tell it to you.
Come on back.
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