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Good afternoon everybody.
Along with Mr. Aaron Zummer is a producer and engineer on the board.
It is six minutes past the hour of three o'clock on this Monday, November 10th, 2025.
It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.
Welcome in everybody to the World Headquarters of Civic Media, downtown Madison, the intersection of state and fairchild.
a chilly day.
Zommer is a downtown.
So let's take a quick look at the old Sam Davidson street cam down there on nobody.
No, but literally there is nobody on the street right now.
One, I guess one person way over there by the Overture Center, a yellow cab.
Don't see many of those anymore, but there's a yellow cab, a badger cab or whatever that is.
Yeah, people are staying in Zommer, chilly, chilly indeed is going to continue to be so.
But I think by the middle to end of the week, get a warm back up into the high forties, low fifties, baby.
I would prefer
this.
I know.
I know you enjoy.
You enjoy some warm weather.
Many thanks to Jane McNair for being.
How about Jane McNair?
Always fantastic.
Always fantastic.
And you can hear her every morning from nine until 11 on the Civic Media Radio Network for Matt Nair on air.
And of course, our Mike Clemens Sports Reporter Packers taking on the Philadelphia Eagles tonight on Monday Night Football.
Looking forward to that summer.
I doubt you have.
I guess I want.
I tried you I so I have my radio set we don't have a we don't play the Packers on WMDX or Civic Media Station here in Madison because the rights are owned by someone else but I do listen to Wayne Laravy and The Rock on the Packer Radio Network and I also like to have the game on I have YouTube TV but I have I have the old rabbit ears or whatever you want now it's like just a plate so I can get ABC over the air
Do you and your roommates have the same situation, or are you not going to be able to watch
All right, so you can see it.
But a lot of people across Wisconsin who have cut the cord on cable and moved to YouTube TV because of the ongoing dispute with Disney, which owns ABC and ESPN right now, they're having a conflict argument over rights.
in terms of money being paid to YouTube TV for the right to carry ESPN and Disney and ABC.
So right now, if you're have YouTube television via streaming, you cannot get ESPN or ABC.
So you need a dish or a pardon me, a rabbit ear or whatever you want to call over the air.
But for a lot of people that live further outside of Madison, you can't get ABC.
or outside of Milwaukee or outside of Green Bay or wherever Eau Claire, you can't get your ABC affiliate over the air.
So for a lot of people and a lot of as someone who used to be a general manager for a sports bar, this is a nightmare for people who are using YouTube TV to provide their services to their their sports bar because they either got to find a different way to carry the game or they're going to lose out on a lot of money.
A lot of people that want to come and watch this tonight.
So the best way to listen to the game is over our Civic Media Radio Network stations.
Now, this is over the air on radio because we are not allowed to stream the Packer games on the Civic Media app because of rights owned by the NFL.
But if you live in Richland Center, you can listen to it on WRCO.
If you live in Park Falls on WCQM, if you live in Racine Kenosha on WRJN, if you live in beautiful Watoma on W-A-U-H, and if you live in Ironwood, Michigan, one of our new stations up there, the U-P-W-I-M-I.
Shout out to all those folks.
You can listen to the Packer game there.
So lots going on, Zomers.
Which might be the reason, before we started the show today,
I, you know, you try to say hi to people in the office.
I walked by the hardest working folks here in the Madison office, the traffic office, which are the wonderful women who keep us on the air, who keep the commercials going.
And I simply said, good morning.
How's it going?
There was a collective groan.
was.
Ugh, I had to wait.
Do we need to call 911?
Is everybody okay?
No, no, no, just Monday morning traffic.
And we're not talking about the interstate.
We're talking about, because these poor folks, now they're managing commercials and programming for three different states.
We only got three people doing that.
That's a state of peace.
You understand this as state of peace.
And they're doing a great job.
I feel
No, it's not.
Shout out to all of our great folks out there, Carol, Denise, and Megan, who are making the magic happen.
Absolutely.
I'm going to make a motion here on the air on behalf of the company.
We'll see if we can do this at our company-wide media or our staff meeting tomorrow.
We should just make a motion and say that we should send them all to a Sundara spa.
That's what they deserve, don't you think, Somers?
You do it on the weekend, I guess.
Let's let's do that man.
Maybe maybe at this has something to do with the lack of air traffic controllers, but maybe it does No, it doesn't touch just being goofy.
By the way, what a one update here.
We're Jay and I were talking about last hour From the Milwaukee drill Sentinel and if I only skimmed down to
the bottom of Molly Beck's story, she clarified this, and thank you, was it Sue?
One of our great listeners.
Sue and
yeah.
Sue and Franklin, who, we were talking about Trump pardoning many of these Wisconsin folks that tried to overturn the 2020 election, and she brings this up that, you know, the pardons are kind of superficial because Trump could only pardon people for federal offenses or federal charges, and she's absolutely right.
Molly, back in her story in the Milwaukee Journal of Sentinel,
Further down here says, quote, the pardons are largely symbolic.
The order would only shield Republicans from federal prosecutions.
So law forward president Jeff Mandel, who brought a civil suit lawsuit against the Wisconsin Republicans, said the pardons send quote, unmistakable message that this White House distains democracy and will assist in word indeed any effort, no matter how extreme and outrageous to cling to power regardless of election results, unquote.
So many of these people like Kenneth Chesbro, Jim Trupas, Bob Spindel, Andrew Hitt, Mary Bustron, others all pardoned today, federal, federal charges.
You know, I scratched your back, you scratch mine.
I mean, it just continues right at the federal level.
So thank you for pointing that out soon.
Wanted to get that clarification out there.
All right, it's 13 minutes.
Oh, by the way, coming up to the bottom of the hour.
Not gonna want to miss this a very very special tribute today the 10th of November marks the 50th anniversary of the wreck of the Edmund fist Gerald in Lake Superior and for a lot of us who are around I would have been six years old at the time But I remember this happening and it was all over the radio.
I remember news reporters the radio talking about it and of course
a few months or almost a year afterwards, Gordon Lightfoot came out with the song, the record of the Edmund Fitzgerald, which we'll hear from a little bit later on in the show.
So at the bottom of the hour, we're gonna pay tribute to the 29 souls that were lost on the SS Edmund Fitzgerald and joining us for that, former secretary of commerce here in Wisconsin and a superior native, Bill McCosh will be along, as well as Jenny Van Sickle, friend of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
group up in Superior on their new historical marker on this 50th anniversary of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
So all of that coming up later on in the show.
Let's get to it.
It's 10, make it 14 past the hour of three o'clock.
It's late.
Time for another Wisconsin Fun Fact.
Here we go.
That's
right.
Time for another Wisconsin Fun Fact.
On November 10th, 1968, one of the strongest earthquakes in the Midwest occurred in South Central Illinois.
It measured at 5.3 on the Pat Richter scale.
I just threw Pat in there.
The Richter scale.
Press reports indicated that the shock was felt in La Crosse, Milwaukee, Port Washington, Portage, Perdachine, and Sheboygan.
This was only eclipsed by the tremors felt when former Wisconsin football coach Brett Bielema ran to a porta potty at Jingles following the 2012 spring game That's right, that's how we play Wisconsin
Fun fact, did you ever go to Jingles back in the days, Amherst?
It was a sports bar out on John Nolan at the quarter of Olin and John Nolan Drive out there, but not too far from where I live.
It was big back in the day, Jingles.
And Brett Bielma, he's a large man.
But I'll tell you what, last time he was here, he put the nail in the coffin, poor Paul Christ, his former defensive coordinator,
And and be able to one with with the fighting a lion eye And I have a feeling he's gonna win again by the way big shout out to Wisconsin Badgers and I'll give fickle credit They got a big win over the University of Washington the Huskies Remember both Brandon Ewing and I on Friday said they weren't gonna win But they pulled it out defense was really really good offense still not great now look the fans particularly the student section
They decided to rush the field after the win and I get it Washington was ranked 23 So barely inside the top 25, but they decided to rush the field which I don't know whether I guess to me When Wisconsin was being coached by Belima or Alvarez or Paul Christ He would have never rushed the field beating the 23 place team because you probably would have been in the top 10 or top 15 yourself
But I get it.
It's been a long, long time since they beat a ranked opponent.
Or an opponent, period.
Now, I don't think it's going to go well for the Badgers this week at Indiana.
Or the next week when Brett Bielma comes back with Illinois.
Or the next week against the Flexsters up at Minnesota.
But you know what?
Give the Badgers credit.
I'll tell you this.
Big shout out to the players, the student athletes, because they showed grit, they showed drive.
They're not cashing it in.
They continue to work their rear ends off.
And I think that says a lot about the team.
And I'll give the program credit.
So I don't want to be a complete Debbie doubter.
So congrats on the University of Wisconsin men's.
I guess you would have a women's, but a football team.
They did a great job getting that big win this weekend.
All right, let's go quickly to Troy about Horrib.
Troy, you want to say something about YouTube TV?
If you haven't, it's going to be hard to watch the Packers tonight.
What do you got, Troy?
I'm coming over I'll bring over a full pack of spotted cow Actually, you know, I this isn't the first time I said this but I wish I'd have gotten that antenna when Clinton was giving him away Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, I I saw that Sling TV will give you a day pass for five
bucks.
Pardon me.
What so I'm sling TV
Oh, TV.
All right.
Very good.
It's giving people a day pass for five bucks.
That's pretty cheap.
That's pretty cheap.
It's cheaper than me going to the bar.
Right?
As long as they don't have YouTube TV.
Just make sure you
get an Uber or something.
Because we don't want anybody being inebriated on the roads.
Nobody.
Just be
careful out
there.
The wife is my DD.
Wow.
Does she get a present for being your DD?
He
gets
me
All right, thanks for calling and go pack go appreciate you Troy All right, come on back.
We're gonna play a little what's worse for you today Amazon or Walmart farm news at the bottom of the hour Then we will honor the 50th anniversary of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald's a special Wisconsin edition of the Todd all balls show across Wisconsin Maybe I've been drinking no I haven't just water come on back
across Wisconsin
on the Civic Media.
We're ready to go.
truth wherever it may lead and having fun doing it.
Welcome back to the title ball show on the Civic Media Ready Network 22 now past the hour of three o'clock on this Monday, November 10th, 2025.
Glad to have you along.
Now here's, it never fails, Omers.
Whenever I, no good deed goes unpunished, as they say, because I've been corrected now by the folks in the, in the traffic office.
Apparently I've gotten a yellow light.
Carol.
I'll call her the head of the I think that's right, right?
Yeah, she's the head traffic person here at Civic Media does a great job She says I love this shout out to the traffic office, but it's not just the three of us Pam Rachel and Bo also Hadley
oh handle I gave her read handle talk stations Bo is gonna have words with you when you get back to Rachel and center Well, that's probably right
new
stations.
I didn't mean to offend anyone.
I was just, I mean, the people I interact with every day are great traffic, traffic folks here.
And it's kind of the titular head of traffic, right?
You have other subsidiaries of traffic, but the main traffic stop is rate.
It's the biggest intersection in civic media, you understand?
I better quit while I'm ahead.
Thank you to all the traffic people who keep us on the air.
It's 24 past three.
Time once again for what's worse.
Here we go.
Time once again for what's worse.
Nothing to give away.
No prize money involved.
Just your chance to have your voice heard on all 10 news talk and stay sports stations across the civic media radio network.
Timely, timely indeed, as Mike Lucas likes to say, it is the holidays are really almost really upon us, right?
Especially with all this goofiness with air traffic now being delayed.
They're already saying mail your Christmas presents if you're going to go that way, United States Postal Service, UPS, FedEx, Amish horse and buggy, whatever you're going to use, do it early.
So here now, the category today, timely indeed, what's worse?
Amazon or Walmart Amazon or Walmart 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 or text us on the old civic media app you can do it by downloading the app on your Apple or Android device simply go to your app store type in civic civic media it'll pop up cute little cm logo click on that
Takes less than a minute.
It's free.
It's what CBS is Gale King calls a deal.
The civic media app.
What's worse, Amazon or Walmart.
I think for a lot of people, it's kind of difficult because it's so convenient, right?
And you
think, you know, I could just go on my phone or my laptop and order something.
And sometimes almost the same day or the next day,
You get it if you got Amazon Prime, there's no delivery cost.
It's just the thing or now wall I know and this is something I think is actually good for a lot of food because Whether you like it or not we I was back in Richland Center this weekend and only options for food in terms of grocery store Well, I guess quick trip for some people quite frankly has become like the neighborhood
grocery
store quick trip But if you want like your regular grocery store Walmart now
I'm not here to hate a Walmart, but necessarily but for a lot of people who don't drive or what you would consider shut-ins elderly folks Walmart has a delivery service now and for a lot of people if it wasn't for that delivery service They wouldn't be able to get any groceries at all.
So that part of it I think is good But you think about which corporation do I want to go to Amazon or Walmart?
855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.
Mom and I took a lovely drive to Baraboo, Wisconsin this weekend and went to Festival Foods, where she got her big 14 pound, actually 13.98 pound turkey.
Now here's the deal.
We went, there was this big bin of frozen turkeys at Festival and Baraboo.
And she said, well, I don't want it any bigger than 15 pounds.
I
would
like a 14 pound.
Well, there weren't a lot quite frankly.
I said, all right, fine.
And so I was trying to see, well, how much are they?
There was no prices.
And so I thought, well, they put the price on the, on the bird.
And it's, well, I said, well, here's one for 14 bucks.
And she says, that is the weight of the bird.
I said, really?
So mama was smart of me because there was nowhere that said price per pound.
And as it turns out, the price was like almost double what it was last year.
It was like two, it was like two something a pound or I can't remember what it was, but we saved, we saved like quite a bit of money because festival had some food sales going on.
So anyway, we bought, we bought, we bought the, the turkey is in the freezer.
What's worse Amazon or Walmart 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Matt in Middleton listening on WM DX says Amazon is way worse as their Tentacles gotta be careful there are farther reaching and they cheat the tax system more Allegedly that I don't I can't I don't know that to be true.
That's Matt's opinion Matt's opinion Sarah listening up a beautiful Green Bay
via WISS on the transponder and Appleton says Walmart is worse by far.
That place makes me feel homicidal.
Really?
No, I mean, I get the fact that some of them are very big and overwhelming.
And it's like, boy, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta limber up and do some stretches before I go to Walmart because it's a workout.
You understand?
I
particular Walmart.
It could be.
It could be.
Sue, speaking of Sue, Sue and Middleton, a brand new texture out of Middleton via WMDX.
Thank you, Sue.
We appreciate that.
Both are bad, Sue says, Walmart for their low, low pay and Amazon just because.
All right, Sue and Middleton.
I mean, again, it gets kind of that necessary evil a little bit.
I don't know.
Parker Olson, the great Parkster.
The producer for more names of Pac Crite low says I can tell you which one is better for people watching for people watching.
Oh, for people for people for people.
I get it.
I get it now.
Well, yeah.
Have you ever played Walmart bingo?
I have not.
Stay tuned.
Our farm news is next with Pam Yankee Midwest Farm Before and when we come back, a special tribute on the 50th anniversary of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, Bill Bacochian and Jenny Van Sickle.
We'll join us.
Don't go anywhere.
It's the All-Ball Show on the Civic Media Radio... Welcome back to the Tell All-Ball Show on the Civic Media Radio Network where it is now 35 minutes past the hour of three o'clock of this Monday, November 10th, 20...
25.
It is a day for those of us who are of a certain age that remember it very well.
It is the 50th anniversary of the wreck of the Mimphis Gerald, the opening lines there, the opening tune of the iconic Gordon Lightfoot song there, the wreck of the Mimphis Gerald, which we will hear later on in this half hour.
But joining us to pay tribute to the 29 souls that were lost
50 years ago today in Lake Superior, a superior native and former secretary of commerce under former Governor Tommy Thompson.
Bill McCoshin joins us now via StreamYard.
Bill, thank you very much for being with us on what I know for the families is still a very tough day.
It's a very tough day.
And if I was 10 years old when the fits sunk 50 years ago, and so anyone who's
was alive and lived in the Twin Ports at that time, the Twin Ports being Duluth and Superior and the surrounding area.
It is your most vivid memory of the 70s.
There's just no question about that.
And for the families, those 29 crewmates had sons, wives, children, and many of them are still alive today.
And here we are 50 years later, still wondering exactly what happened on that.
that fateful evening around sometime after 7, 10 p.m.
Yeah, we actually investigated and kind of attempted, not kind of, we did, we wanted to take the show up to Whitefish Point in the Upper Peninsula today and do the show there because there was, or probably going on right now, a public memorial service outside where they're actually going to ring the bell, the M of Fist Jail, which was recovered back in the mid-90s.
and then this evening they're going to have a private service inside the Maritime Shipwreck Museum at Whitefish Point, but it would have required us to be outside and
this day is turning out perhaps similarly to what it was 50 years ago.
So we didn't do it, but the director there was very kind and he was very, very adamant.
He said, you're welcome to come and do what you need to do, but you are not allowed to talk to any family members and you have to stay away from the proceedings because it's a very tough day for a lot of people that are gonna be there.
Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt about that.
I mean, it shook the community of the Twin Ports for a very long time and still does.
Anyone who was around during that time period will never forget, you know, when the fits sunk.
And for us from Superior, she's
got her last load at the Burlington Northern Ordoch number one in what we call Alawese, Wisconsin, which is one of our little neighborhoods.
And she set sail on the ninth, and sometime after 7 p.m.
on the 10th, she sunk.
And it's an eerie memory, for sure.
It really is.
I appreciate you taking time on short notice to join us, because
I think for a lot of people, you know, Zomers is 26, I'm 56, so I was six years old.
And I can still remember being in my parents' Oldsmobile Delta 88 and listening to the special news reports coming out over the radio in the car when this happened.
And growing up there, like you did in Superior, did you know any of the families tangentially or in the community up there?
I didn't, but here's my personal connection.
So my oldest brother, Mike, ended up working at the Burlington Northern Ordock for 23 years.
He is now, believe it or not, come full circle.
He is the administrator of the Great Lake St.
Lawrence Seaway
at
the US DOT.
So he signed on at the Burlington Northern a year after the FITS was filled.
So he got there in 76.
But you know, I know plenty of people who helped fill that boat.
that day or their kids.
You know, Eloise and East End where I grew up are connected.
So that's our part of town and we know those families for sure.
We're talking Bill Bacochian, former Secretary of Commerce here at the State of Wisconsin, former Governor Tommy Thompson, a superior native who joins us via stream yard right now.
Eliza, listening in Green Bay of the AWK in Milwaukee, says, I arrived in Wisconsin in 2014, and yet that song, Gord Lightfoot's song, still makes me cry.
I think it's a connection for folks our age, Bill, who are there, but it's a part of Wisconsin history.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it still remains one of the most tragic, highest loss of life accidents on Lake Superior.
And it's a part of Wisconsin history, part of it's the mystery, but part of it's the tragedy and Gordon Lightfoot's song.
And, you know, to his credit, that's a masterpiece.
If you are aware of this story, you can't turn the channel when it comes on.
You're going to listen to it from beginning to end, and it's going to mean something to you.
So if you're in a car with someone, say, what is that?
Turn that.
And you don't, you know, you probably knew a little bit of something about the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
And it's, you know, sadly, Gordon Lightfoot is now gone as well.
But that's a story.
that's a song that will live forever.
I want to play, if you allow us your bill, just a clip because maybe you've seen this.
I had not until I was preparing for the show today.
There is, I'm going to call it a documentary.
It's called The Gales of November, Diving the M&Vist Gerald, and it's available right now across Wisconsin on local Fox stations, kind of, as they say, check your local listings for day and time.
It's also available on YouTube, but it goes back to 1994, 1995, the last time that
there were people that were allowed to do sanctioned expeditions to the wreck of the M. Fitzgerald.
They did the final cutting of the bell, the copper bell that was on the fits and brought it up and they replaced it with basically a memorial with all the names of the 29 souls lost.
And my understanding was that Bill, that many of the family members were allowed to go out there and for them,
It was finally some form of closure, essentially a memorial service for these people.
And it still gives me goosebumps just to say that.
Yeah, and Congress passed a law shortly there after that to make it an official grave site.
So there there have been no Dives for 30 years and there never will be again.
It doesn't appear the submarines are much better than they were in 1995 You could probably do some more in-depth analysis of what may have happened But for the families, they don't want that site to serve.
They want that to be the official burial ground of those 29 souls and and fortunately, you know
Congress went along with that.
Please just a clip here.
This is a clip from the documentary called Gales on November diving for the M of Fitzgerald as told by a couple of the divers that were there and participated in those 94 95 dives.
The interest literally from all over the world.
We did radio interviews with radio stations from Australia.
And that just blows your mind when you think of literally worldwide interest in the shipwreck.
Hours of behind the scene video reveal the challenges and dangers of diving this steep.
The light slowly diminishes from Lake Superior until you get to about 250 feet.
Then it goes dark.
It's complete darkness down there at
535 feet down Lake Superior.
All of us were lost down there.
We didn't have any way of
triangulating locations or distances.
kind of straining your eyes, trying to see out into this foggy light out ahead of you.
So we had lights, of course, on the sub, but the lights only go maybe 20, 25 feet,
and
there's a
lot of darkness beyond that.
You light it up a little bit, and you want to, you keep telling yourself, okay, we're not going to hit the ship before we see it, are we?
Back off
a little bit, you're too
close.
When you get onto the sub like that, you don't land right on top of the wreck.
You land
off the wreck a bit, and then you use your sonar.
And then we started heading what we thought was the wreck.
And we're going across, and all of a sudden, I see bottom, bottom, bottom in a giant crack in the ground.
We were actually on the Edmund Fitzgerald and didn't realize it.
That is a clip from Gales on November diving the M and Fitzgerald available on local Fox stations across the state of Wisconsin.
Check your local listings and YouTube.
Bill, I've not heard that.
Have you seen this doc at all?
It's just powerful.
It's powerful.
I've seen the clips.
I haven't seen the full one.
There's another one that was produced by Discover Media here in Madison that will air on KBJR, which is the NBC station in Duluth, Minnesota tonight prior to the Monday Night Football game.
They're going to show the half-hour version, but they've done an hour-long documentary on the syncing of the fits.
So there's so much more material out, the amount of content that's been released over the last 10 days for the 50th anniversary.
is extraordinary, including someone you and I know, Thomas Nelson, former state lawmaker, now current county executive out of Gamy County, released a new book about the sinking of the FITs.
Yeah, I haven't got a chance to read it.
I think Pat Crite low had to interview with him this morning on the warnings of Pat Crite low and it's your point.
It just it just really cut.
Every line whether it's partisan or politics or rural and urban I think it's something that all of us as Wisconsinites share in but again particularly close Hits close to home for those of you who are superior natives
Yeah, when when the Fitz needed work it generally got repairs at Frasier shipyards, which is still in superior And hopefully about to go through a major expansion.
So we're very familiar with the Fitz it was
It's for this.
Uh, might have some trouble there with, uh, Bill McCosh and so we're going to work on that.
I have to, uh, these things happen, of course, uh, with internet connections.
It is a 45 minutes past the hour right now of a three o'clock.
We're talking about the 50th anniversary of the wreck of the emin fist.
Gerald, uh, certainly hitting, uh, home for a lot of Wisconsinites.
I want to read your passage.
Uh, this is from Wisconsin public radio, uh, written by Danielle Cating and she writes a great article.
Go to Wisconsin public radio.
.org and and check this out and She writes this quote Missy Clark Nabozny was 11 when she lost her grandfather in the sinking of the SS M and Fitzgerald the Ashland resident remembers the wet snow would be against the windows that night She and her sister Chrissy who was 10 stared at a picture of the boat of the television set quote we both were just staring at the screen like
What's going on?"
Clark Nabozny said.
My mom was just freaking out, very upset, sobbing.
Her mother, Patricia, was the eldest of three children born to John Simons, a wheelsman from Ashland, who had been sailing with Fitzgerald from his first voyage.
And at 64, she said the trip was set to be his last before retirement.
Bruce Kelman, who had been watching...
when the news came across that a 729-foot ore carrier had been reported missing.
He knew that was the length of the ship that his father, Alan Kelman, was sailing aboard.
His sister woke their mom, the kids were sent back to bed, but Bruce said they could hear her making phone calls for half the night.
Quote, there was uncertainty as to what was going on, Kelman said.
My mom was 38 years old and had five kids, so you can figure
what was going on in her mind.
By morning, Clark and Bosnie said, they knew the ship was gone.
Quote, there was a lot of sobbing, a lot of crying, but it was quiet, she said.
Chaos, quiet chaos is what I called it.
Part of the article from Wisconsin Public Radio entitled, 50 years later, Evan Fitzgerald, Sinking Leaves, Lasting Effects on Families and Forecasting.
That was one of the things that came out of this great tragedy.
is that weather boys were placed on Lake Superior afterwards, and vances were made to prevent this kind of tragedy from happening again.
So there is a legacy of technology that lasted after this, but I think it's really important to remember on this day that there are 29 families who lost a father, a brother, a friend.
And many of those folks who went through that loss are still feeling it to this day.
Many thanks to Bill McCoshen for taking time for being here and sharing his remembrances.
When we come back, the final transmission of the MNFIST Journal
and the song by Gordon Lighting.
back to the title ball show on the civic media ready to work.
It is eight before the hour of four o'clock at the top of the hour.
ABC CBS News, followed by a check of weather, sports and Mike Clemens.
So we get ready for that Monday night football game Packers and the Philadelphia Eagles, followed by another great edition of Maggie Dawn and Pete Schwabba.
What end this show with a tribute?
to the 29 souls lost on the Edmund Fitzgerald.
This from the SSEdmundFistGerald.org.
And again, many thanks to Bill McCosh and for coming on the show today.
They chronicle here at SSEdmundFistGerald.org.
The final hours, the final days on the Edmund Fitzgerald.
At 315, 50 years ago today, Captain Jesse Cooper of the SS Arthur M. Anderson watches Fitzgerald round Caribou Island.
And comments of the Fitzgerald is much closer to six Fordham school that he would want to be.
And the final transmission later that evening at seven 10 in the evening, actually make it about seven 10 that they were holding their own.
That was the last that we heard from the M of Fitzgerald.
Here is Gordon Lightfoot.
The legend lives on from the Chippewa home down at the big lake they call Gichigumi.
The lake it is said never gives up or dead when the skies of November turn gloomy.
With a load of iron ore 26,000 tons more than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty.
That good ship and true was a bone to be chewed When the gills of November came early The ship was the pride of the American side Coming back from some bill in Wisconsin As the big freighters go it was bigger than most With a crew and good captain well seasoned
Concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms When they left fully loaded for Cleveland Then later that night when the ship's bell rang Could it be the north wind making feelings?
After the admin Fitzgerald, Captain McSurly said, quote, we are holding our own.
They never did speak later.
The 29 men aboard the Fitzgerald will never be heard from again from anyone outside the ship.
May they rest in peace.