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Abandoned Anchors, Boiled Brats and Closed Campuses (Hour 2)
The Todd Allbaugh Show · Mon Oct 27, 2025
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Good afternoon, everybody.
Todd Alba, along with Mr. Aaron Zombers, our producer and engineer on the board.
It is six minutes past the hour of three o'clock.
Welcome in our two of the big broadcast here on a Monday, October 27th, 2025.
It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.
Glad to have you along here at the World Headquarters of Civic Media, downtown Madison at the intersection of State and Fairchild.
Zomers, let's take a look at the old Sam Davison Street Cam.
Look at that.
A beautiful, beautiful fall day leaves.
Still a few golden leaves on the trees down here in downtown Madison.
Sun now.
kind of lower in the sky, so reflecting off the buildings across the street where many of my coffee dreams died.
True stories.
Many.
Not all, but many.
Yeah, great day.
Great day to be out.
I love the kind of just jacket.
Isn't this the quintessential jacket weather is ours?
now And we first talked about this for many years or many months a couple years The the studio we're doing the show in and it's a lovely studio look at me wrong But more so are the office that zammers and I share there's a vent and it's often it was often like an ice box like an ice box in there and and so it was just it was a chilling experience And so you have to bundle up
And now, last week, there was a big brouhaha meeting, and they changed it, the HVAC.
And now, I may have to start doing the second hour of the show shirtless.
now the question is, which do we prefer?
An ice box or a sauna?
Ice box.
You're more of the ice box category.
What's worse, sauna, for sure.
For you, absolutely.
All right, well, Zahmer and I will deal with our first world problems, still dealing with a horse voice.
I apologize for that.
We're working on getting it fixed, so hopefully in the near future.
And
also many thanks to Jane McNair.
How about that, our friend and colleague?
You can hear her and Greg Bach every morning from 9 until 11.
Monday through Friday.
Monday through Friday.
Monday through Friday as it turns out on the civic media right now work I'm gonna join Jane and Greg tomorrow at 9 30 as long as I keep track of the days Always a good time.
Oh, it's a good time coming up on this hour of the program Gonna give you a little Halloween.
You say Halloween or Halloween.
that's probably wrong,
I know I think you're probably right.
I say hello
a lot.
I think that's right because
Halloween economics.
I was up initial center this weekend.
Mom has her Halloween candy.
All she's got it late.
She's counted the pieces.
It's in the proper, uh, uh, what do you call it?
Baskets or bowls to give out.
And so I'm encouraging Brady and Brandon Ewing to get their kids there early and get a couple for themselves.
They trick or treat the neighborhood, so mom's all set to go.
And so it turns out the average American spends $296 a year for Halloween.
Is that
is going out
I don't know.
We'll find out.
We'll break it down.
We'll break it down for you here a little bit So we'll talk about that.
We also have a what's worse for you and gonna give you some news from CBS and also some Jay Rothman news The UW system president back in the news last week.
We didn't have a chance to cover that important stuff So we'll get to that but first ten minutes past the hour of three o'clock time once again for a Wisconsin fun fact
That's right, it's
time for another Wisconsin Fun Fact.
On this date, October 27th, 1909, a major explosion at the Papst Brewery in Milwaukee destroyed.
Three floors of the brewery and it left everyone the in the blast radius smelling like the old anchor in on Atwood Avenue And that's how we play Wisconsin fun fact I Didn't know about the blast in the brewery.
I didn't know that's
That's an event.
By the way, did you know it's a National American Beer Day today?
I didn't know that, but now I'm gonna have to celebrate.
There's a National Day for everything, our friend, Pat Critello, and Parker Olsen on Critello Up North Mornings.
It's just, it's just, it's just Mornings and Pat Critello.
From six until nine every morning.
Yes.
He was talking about this, it's National American Beer Day today.
So, it raises a glass to the rich American beer making history, and those who savor continued traditions, pour your favorite pint with millions, enjoy the storied brews across the nation, and right here in Wisconsin.
I
Probably, or maybe go across the lake to the Mallard, and really just show research at this point.
Oh yeah, for sure.
So have a pint of your favorite American or better yet, Wisconsin beer today.
Maybe I'll go home and have a little spot of cow.
I've still got a couple cans of this year's strawberry rhubarb.
Ooh,
I don't drink a lot, a lot of fruity beers.
It's usually just like a straight old spotted cow or maybe a high life, a miller high life, the champagne of beers.
But when I get the fruity beers, it's hard to beat the strawberry rhubarb from Nuglaris Brewing.
By the way, I was at Nuglaris on Friday.
Big shout out and thanks to the Dirty Dog Taphouse in Nuglaris stopping there.
Curtin floor see took me out for for my birthday last week.
We had a speaking of a couple of pints We started the evening out at the dirty dog, and then we went up the hill to new not new glares, but Bailey's run.
Thank you Bailey's run winery and The the distillery there is open as well as the winery and we went to the distillery side where they do a great Friday night fish fry So I had some great great fish with Curtin floor see so many things to them.
That was a good time had by all
as kandu is is fond of saying uh what should we do here we should we uh should we do the thing or should we do something else i don't know what so i want to get well let's let's get into this a little bit just for for a minute we'll we'll try to come back to this a little bit later on in the show news this morning late morning or a little afternoon today
And I'm sad to hear this, sad to read it, it's in USA Today, today on the online version.
CBS Evening News is going through another shakeup.
John Dickerson, who took over as the co-anchor of CBS's Evening News broadcast in January, following the departure of Nora O'Donnell, is leaving the network at the end of the year.
Dickerson shared the news on Instagram post today.
Quote, I am extremely grateful for all that CBS gave me, the work, the audience's attention, and the honor of being a part of the network's history.
And I am grateful to my dear colleagues who made me a better journalist and a better human.
I will miss you, Dickerson wrote.
He also serves as CBS News' chief political analyst.
He did not share a reason for his departure, but will continue to co-anchor the CBS Evening News until the holidays.
the CBS are according to the network.
The news comes weeks after Barry Weiss was named editor-in-chief of CBS News, an unconventional pick for the role, my editorial comment to say the least, given her lack of experience in broadcast journalism.
Weiss founded the Free Press, a media company that was acquired by CBS's parent company Paramount Skydance and was previously an op-ed editor and writer
for the New York Times.
Dickerson's departure also marks the latest big change at CBS Evening News after O'Donnell left his anchor in January.
She announced her exit in July of last year when she said it was time to do something else after 12 years at CBS.
She's now one of the people at 60 Minutes.
Dickerson anchors the current edition of CBS Evening News with Maurice de Bois as they replaced O'Donnell
earlier this year.
I think this is a big loss for CBS.
And of course, we've talked about this at length in the show, the changing national media, the legacy media.
John Dickerson was one of the straight shooters.
His mom worked at CBS News back in the day.
He took over a course for Bob Schieffer initially at Face the Nation when Schieffer stepped down.
And Dickerson did a great job with that.
And then they had to shake up, but after Charlie Rose got caught up in the Me Too movement.
And so they decided to take Dickerson off of Face the Nation and move him to CBS News, or The Morning Show, CBS This Morning, where he never really quite felt like he was in his comfort zone.
And so then they took him and put him at 60 minutes.
And then they moved him to the anchor chair at CBS Evening News.
And they've tried to do this more 60 minutes-ish version where they do longer form stories instead of the quick hits.
I watch it, it's okay.
I can see why a lot of people who are traditional evening news viewers, I know it's a smaller market now.
I can see why it's not their thing.
But now CBS, after being bought by Skydance or Paramount, being bought by Skydance, which owns CBS News,
They've changed things.
And I think this is one of the first big changes on Dickerson, whether he was pushed out, whether he said, this is for me, I don't know.
We're gonna come back to this in a different way, hopefully on the show yet, because other news today from theguardian.com, ex 60 minutes producer, Bill Owens says bosses discouraged him from covering Gaza.
and Donald Trump.
Could that have been part of the reason a forebearer of why Dickerson, John Dickerson, is going to be leaving CBS News.
We'll talk about that a little bit later on in the show.
But right now, 18 past the hour, three o'clock.
Time once again for What's Worse.
Let's go.
Time once again for what's worse nothing give away no prize money involved But it is your chance to have your voice heard on all ten news whether sports stations talk stations of the civic media radio network Timely timely indeed.
We're getting to the end of grilling season, but boy anytime the Packers are playing and Badgers as well, but we'll say Packers for now grilling
I mean how many great tailgates do you have at Lambeau Field?
Or people just get together and say we're gonna tailgate our garage on the big screen to watch the Packer game.
And one of the main things on this is Brotts.
People love it with this state to grill a Brot.
Casper, one of our great engineers says on YouTube, it's always grilling season.
If you're brave enough.
That's right.
So here's the category today.
What's worse?
Johnsonville Brots or Clemens Brots?
Johnsonville Brots or Clemens Brots?
What's worse?
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
You can also text us on the Civic Media app.
I know I'm getting myself into controversial territory here, but we'll ask the hard questions.
Johnsonville or Clemens Brotz, what's worse?
We'll discuss it after this, 855-752-4842, and tell you about Halloween economics.
Later on as well as the all-world show of the Civic Media Radio.
What are
the
most iconic television ads in the state of Wisconsin?
the Johnsonville Brot ad where the guy yells it off the dock and all the boats come in, because Charlie Murphy is cooking Johnsonville Brots.
I
off
So that's what he do.
funny.
It's not
him.
Welcome back to the Town Hall Ball Show.
The Civic Media Radio Network.
23 minutes past the hour of three o'clock.
Asking today is what's worse.
The category is Johnsonville Brots.
or Clemens Brotz, Johnsonville Brotz, or Clemens Brotz, 855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.
Mark, in prayer and sack on the text line, says, depends.
Is Charlie Murphy cooking them?
I hear Johnsonville, and I remember that annoying commercial.
seems like
than you do.
Well, it's one of those things, it's like a song, it gets stuck in your head.
And then, and then somebody, and then people just keep saying it over and over and over.
You know what, what, what's, what are you cooking today?
All we got is some Johnsonville broths.
Hey!
Oh, so and so and so.
And then people get goofy with it.
And that annoys some people.
I find it kind of funny.
Lots of, this is, I love it when we hit on something that people have strong feelings for.
We're going to get to all these.
So give us a call, 855-752-4842.
855-752-4842, or you could text us on the app, download it today at your Apple or Android device, go to your app store, type in Civic CIVIC.
Media takes less than a minute to download it, it is free.
It's what Gayle King at CBS, for now, calls a deal.
Let's go to Tom, listening on WMDX here in Madison.
Tom, Johnsonville Brats or Clemens Brats, what's worse?
Tom are you there?
Hello Tommy.
Well, hello.
He must have lost him.
But Tom on text back or call us back before
Well, let's let's wait to be called.
Okay, so I'm going to call us back.
Let's go off to the stream here and PJ very strong opinion here says Clements are throw up emoji
So I guess Clements are worse.
He says you can I did not know this PJ on YouTube says you can taste the difference between the two brands and Clements has a really weird in my opinion fake taste
I didn't know a Brotts could have a fake taste.
What do you
fake taste?
I think we need to run this up to the 12th floor.
I think we need a budget for Brotts summers, and we need to do a taste test on the show.
Because we don't want to be putting out misinformation.
It's for you, the listeners.
Right.
What's worse, Johnseville Brotts or Clemens Brotts, 855-752-4842, 855-752-4842, or text us on the Civic Media app, YouTube.
Twitter, Twix or Facebook.
Uh, Casper on YouTube says Johnsonville is worse only because of their political affiliations.
I did not know that.
Now, see, and I, I'm kind of a, I was going to use a word and probably shouldn't have the air.
I'm kind of a weak need on this because I don't know.
I mean, I'll buy some products based on a company's political affiliations, but if it's like something I really, really like.
It's pretty hard for me to boink on something.
Like, I
don't know,
like, I'm Reese's peanut butter cups.
I'm not gonna stop eating those because of... If I'm not even sure what their affiliation is.
I just won't.
Right,
on.
No, that's a good thing.
Right.
It's something you really like.
But I don't have a good point PJ says you can taste the difference.
Oh, we already read that one Heather checking in up there beautiful Chippewa Falls listening on WC FW the tap says Wow, and this is I've not heard this yet Johnsonville or worse.
She says the last two packs we purchased do not cook right over the fire No more pop of the skin
They're dry inside.
Terrible.
We found out.
Is this true?
They recently, Johnsonville changed their recipe.
I have been a faithful customer.
No more.
Yuck.
Wow.
Strong opinion from the little sister there.
I, I didn't know that.
I did not know that.
What's worse, Johnsonville or Clemens Bratz, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.
Let's go to the text line data.
In La Crosse on WLCX says, Clements just taste like lesser quality.
The texture as well.
It seems they fill their sausages loosely compared to other companies.
Well, there, texture is important.
I don't like a broth that's lumpy inside, like the meat's lumpy.
I like a smoother inside broth, if that makes sense.
I'll tell you this.
A, I like a well-done brat.
Like, if that thing is, like, almost black, give it to me.
Because I like a crisp... Well, I hate... The crispiness is nice.
It's like, I like... I hate, like, a pale brat.
Looks like it's never seen sunlight, you know?
And then when you bite into it, the innards come out, and then you're left with, like, a...
You're left with a skin on the front of it.
It's just yeah, it's just you don't want that.
it's definitely
yeah, I don't want to boil you can boil it before but put it on the freaking grill and grill that baby a Breton Brown dear listening on WAUK in Milwaukee Now this is great.
He says I lived in Germany for three years and John Seville brats are more like the German brought But I love them both.
I'll say Clemens is a tiny
bit worse.
All right, Brad, I wonder if that was pre or post-changing of the, uh, of the recipe there for Johnsonville.
Uh, Chris in beautiful son prairie listening on WMDX says Johnsonville Brats are the worst because they have MSG in them, which is different than MTG.
Marching tail green.
Yeah, I mean it is.
All right, we have to see you on the lines.
Do not hang up as Matt Flynn likes to say.
What's worse, Johnsonville Brots or Clemensville Brots?
Clemensville.
Clemensville Brots.
I'll get it straightened out.
Farm News is next, more on the other side.
It's the All Bull Show in Sydney.
Hey, welcome back to the Town All Bull Show on the Civic Media Radio Network.
35 minutes now.
Past hour, three o'clock it is.
National American Beer Day.
Nicely done there, Zomers.
Have yourself better yet a Wisconsin beer.
Break out a little line in coogles if you're up north or some spotted cow by Nucleus Brewery.
All kinds of other great local breweries across the state of Wisconsin.
Enjoy a Wisconsin beer and what goes better than with beer that are brought, Zomers?
and baseball.
Oh, and baseball.
All right, that's fair enough.
We're going to finish up a little What's Worse here for you.
And then we're going to get into a little bit more serious news.
We didn't have time last week to get to this, a story in the Wisconsin State Journal on UW System President Jay Rothman.
So every time I say his name, Jay Rothman, in the back of my head, I hear the Darth Vader music.
Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun
He Rothwin doesn't actually visit them.
He sends out his is is Darth Sidious's to do his evil bidding He just stays at the Death Star on the 17th floor
of It's a serious subject, but look you gotta laugh and have a little bit of fun.
All right, let's let's uh, let's finish this up.
There's a great category lots of opinions today What's worse?
Johnsonville Brots
or Clemens Brotts.
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
Mark, in priority sack, listening on WMDX of Madison.
Mark, Johnsonville Brotts or Clemens Brotts, what's worse?
Are you there, Mark?
Maybe that line isn't working today.
We've got a bad line.
All right, Ollie in the Northwoods.
Ollie, let's try this.
Ollie, Johnsonville Brotts or Clemens Brotts, what's worse?
Yeah, something's not working so here's what they do
They sit down.
They sit down.
We have these meetings.
You understand?
We have these meetings and they say, okay, we're going to look at your numbers and we're going to see what kind of streaming numbers do you have?
What kind of, uh, what kind of, uh, uh, Arbitron numbers, Nielsen numbers do you have?
And how, how many calls do you get?
How many texts do you get?
And the, the greatest on all of this, you understand?
My employment is based largely on my numbers.
Now how in the world, Thomas, are we supposed to have good numbers when our phone lines don't work?
it's rigged.
I'm telling you, the whole thing is rigged.
Give us a call.
It may work.
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
In the meantime, while Zommerz is trying to reboot our phone lines, let's go to the text line.
That seems to be working.
What's worse, John Seville or Clements brought Ron, listening in Milwaukee on WAUK.
Of the two, I picked Clements.
Superior to both is for Atkinson based, Jones' Sausage.
Well.
All three seem to my senses to have fiddled with their recipes as they jockey for market position.
Jones is increasingly hard to find in the Milwaukee area, and the only reliable source are Century Food Stores, themselves a waning presence.
Now there's a connoisseur of Brats, Ron listening to Milwaukee on AUK.
Thank you very much, Ron.
This is the What's Worst category.
What's Worst?
Johnsonville or Clemens Brats.
Try the phone lines a five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, or text us on the civic media app.
Oh, let's see.
Judy listing in beautiful East Troy on W. A. U. K. Milwaukee says I was raised with using errors and Clements, not Johnsonville.
All right.
Very Southeast Wisconsin there.
Dana.
up on to the LCX in beautiful lacrosse along the banks of the old Mississippi River says Clemens just takes like lesser quality.
The texture as well.
Oh, I think we have read that one, uh, that one already there.
Uh, we got Chris.
All right.
So let's go.
Let's try the phone lines here.
Well, we've, we've, uh, brought in the voodoo doll to try to fix this.
Um,
Mike in Spring Green, listening on WRCE in Richland Center, Mike Johnsonville Bratz or Clemens Bratz, what's worse?
Mike, if you can hear me, I'm terribly sorry.
Here's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna do it the old fashioned way.
Zombers, you pick up the phone line and get their answers and then Zombers will relay it to me and to us from the producer booth live
over the phone lines.
This is, this is great.
This is back to 1987 radio.
Actually in 87, our phones worked.
Uh, what's worse, Johnsonville Brots, Clemensville Brots, or the phone's not working.
I love it.
I love live radio when things happen.
Uh, Gary in Madison.
on WMDX writes, no brats.
Please, in fact, he's anti-brat.
He's anti-bratite.
All right, so there we go.
This is fantastic.
Now, this is somebody who really knows what's going on.
We have a caller here, I believe, Ron.
No, not Ron.
Gonna go to Chad.
Chad and Stoughton, listening on WMDX.
Chad says, Mr. Baseballs, using your brats are the best.
Not a fan of Clemens flavor.
Johnsonville suffers from shrinkflation.
And no longer hangs off the bun.
The monster truck of brats, the bigger the truck, the smaller the brat from Chad and Stoughton.
That was the best text in the day that
now
Chad brings up Bob Uker mr. Baseball So Zabers dug this up over the break.
What are the great Uker commercials in using his
history?
Here's the pitch from it's a ball outside.
I think Prince he may have seen enough He's walking out to the mound and calling to the bullpen.
Let's see who he wants
I tell ya, somebody's got a nice grill full of usingers brats down there.
Wait a minute.
It looks like he's calling for the brats.
Yep.
I tell ya, any time is a great time for usingers saucy.
Hey, buddy, throw one of those up here.
Always was a great receiver.
Ha
ha ha ha.
That just makes me happy whenever I hear Yooker's voice.
as it should.
And those iconic user years brought commercial.
So all right, let's wrap this up here.
Matt, one of our great UPS drivers, I'm Rachel in center.
Let's see the WRCE.
News from the center.
I was just there this weekend.
Same, both are garbage.
Wow.
Compared to what your local grocery store and meat locker stuffs in their houses So all right a fair enough Matt and my sister by the way texts back in on Facebook on WCFW the tap in Eau Claire says our local rumps meat market in Butcher in Altoona has some of the most amazing cheddar versed There we ate there last weekend.
That's where I plan to go now.
So there you go go to rumps
Rumps meat mark.
I've been I've been to rumps in in El
That's a great
place Mike from spring green who again, sorry we couldn't hear you on the radio Hopefully the phone lines are working now.
We'll see but he was saying that he thinks Clements taste worse But he doesn't like Johnsonville because of the Republican donations But that he recommends Miesfeld's which is a meat locker in Sheboygan
Wow.
All right.
Miesfeld in Sheboygan.
Mark in Prairie Texas.
I've started to put Wisconsin-made physiology, Kimichi.
Kimchi.
Kimchi.
All right.
Oh, my brats.
All right.
Tom and Hartford listening on WMDX in Milwaukee.
Pardon me.
WAUK Milwaukee says, usually yours is the best.
Zombers?
Johnsonville or Clements?
What's
I I would just say I've had both Now I don't know I'd like this whole thing about John's but I didn't know about the change of the recipes because I haven't had one since probably early summer They I think they still serve using yours at at Amfam field, right?
Oh, if they do then I have had one and no using yours they using yours is what they think they still I think I've had a couple of projects here at Amfam so
I guess just to answer the question I I would say Clemens are worse because I'm a big Johnsonville fan, but I haven't had one in a while and now I'm told the recipe has changed
Yeah,
maybe I'll just default to using yours as well because I've had I've had using yours at at the ballpark.
All right, well that was that see you never know people you think well no it's something political no no no the people have the strongest feelings on brats
food they love
I like people and I like food and I like public education and it's 45 minutes past the hour of 3 o'clock let's try this according to the Wisconsin State Journal last week a story by
Sabin or Sabine Martin, I apologize, I'm not sure how that person pronounces their name.
Headline, Jay Rothman, discusses the future of the remaining branch campuses.
Now, those of you who are regular listeners know I grew up in Richland Center, an alum of UW Richland, a two-year school there, then transferred to Plattville.
Big believe my grandmother was the first female dean in the state of Wisconsin at UW Richland, not while I was there, but prior to that.
And in 2018, former president Ray Cross, because he didn't like Kathy Sandin's plan, the last chancellor of the two years, and maybe he had to do something to factor you as a woman.
I don't know.
Seems kind of weird to me, but he didn't want her plan, very well thought out plan.
By the way, she's been on this program, Kathy Sandin.
And so Ray Cross said, look, the two years are going back to the four years.
You're going to sink her swim.
direct quote from those who were in the room.
And it has not worked out so well.
And then he had Tommy Thompson as interim president during the pandemic.
He got accolades how he handled the pandemic.
And he really wasn't there long enough to, to really address this to your issue.
He did.
Tommy Thompson, by the way, while I was interim president of system, he actually went to UW Richland and listened, but he goes, look, I'm on my way out.
I wanted to stay.
Board of Regions didn't want me to, so it's going to be the next person's responsibility.
So the Board of Regions, the majority of whom I have been appointed by Democratic Governor Tony Evers, they decided to go outside of education and hire an attorney.
What could possibly go wrong?
Let's hire some.
Let's hire a big old named attorney, the head of Fully and Lardner, and he'll run our education here in Wisconsin.
Well, what do high-priced lawyers do at big firms they cut?
They're very non-emotional and so the board of Regents brought this guy apparently to cut and Now we're we're seeing the the closure of half of our two-year branch campuses the latest last week was UW-Baraboo in Salk County just below Wisconsin Dells So the state journal said he won't come on this program.
We've invited him Jay Rothman
He's he's cloistered on the seventh.
He you know who you know who would make a good pair Jay Rothman and dr. Jill underly Neither one of them want to come in to interviews or face the media or face the public Maybe that's it.
Maybe maybe Zommer's knife for this Halloween will go as Jay Rothman and Jill underly.
Maybe who's
though?
Oh, I want to be underly
Maybe that's the Halloween costume this year.
Anyway, Rothman stays sequestered, and they handle him just like a politician.
They bring him out to quote unquote town halls, but only invited people are here.
Well, I'll tell you what Jay Rothman is saying now about the future of the remaining two year campuses.
The guy needs a brat is what he needs.
Come on back, it's the all ball show on Pacific Media right now.
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On the board is eight minutes before the hour of four o'clock.
Stay tuned, ABC, and CBS News follows this program, whether Czech, our great sports reporter, Mike Clemens, with that big packer victory over former quarterback Aaron Rodgers, Matt LaFleur, Jordan Love, craft of the crew, get a big win over the Steelers, 35, 25.
Clemens will have the update on that.
I wonder if Mike Clemens is related to the Clemens...
Broughts people.
differently.
So probably not.
And then you got another great edition of the Maggie Dawn show from four until six and Pete Schwabinator from six until eight with nightlight.
All right.
I think we should start a new segment Summers Called here's what we didn't we didn't get you today So here's what we did not get you today comments from Luke fickle head coach of the Wisconsin Badgers lost again over the weekend this time to Oregon
played slightly better, but still another loss.
And also, to bury the headline, Donald Trump talking openly over the weekend on Air Force One that he's not ruling out a third term, even though the Constitution prevents him from doing so.
So there's that.
I
No, I don't.
Actually, I don't.
Fair enough.
Totally fair.
Because I want to get to this other stuff.
So I want to finish up this story.
We're finishing up here on the Wisconsin State Journal.
An article by Sabine or Sabine Martin at Wisconsin State Journal, Jay Rothman, head of the UW System campuses.
It's a, it's a, it's a fine interview, but at the end of the day, it doesn't really say anything, which is not new for Jay Rothman.
The article says since 2023, eight of 13 branch campuses have closed.
are closing or are making significant structural changes to adapt to shrinking enrollment.
Quote, I'm not in a position to offer guarantees because, again, we have to be looking at and encouraging or ensuring that we are managing and being good stewards of the resources we have in ensuring that those branch campuses are financially viable.
Unquote from J. Rothman.
He's a song and dance man.
Jay Rothman is the vaudeville performer of the Wisconsin government quasi government entities in this state this after UW-Platteville shut down the branch campus in Baraboo just below Wisconsin Dells and Sauk County a week ago Friday in September UW-Stevens point at Wasaw announced that it's relocating to North Central Technical College beginning next fall
in 2023, Rothman told chancellors to audit the viability of their branch campuses.
Again, we talked about this on the other side.
He keeps going back to enrollment, and he keeps using the excuse that these campuses, these two years are being shut down by enrollment, J Rothman is.
But what he and his minions will not answer, as I've talked about before in this program, is nobody wants to answer.
not J. Rothman, not anybody on the 17th floor of Van Nuys, not Democratic Governor Tony Evers, not Democratic legislators, for the exception of State Senator Keller Royce, who will talk about it, Democrat, former State Representative Katrina Shanklin Democrat, who did talk about it.
But most other Democrats and Republicans are silent on this.
The fact of the matter is I know this firsthand that the four-year campuses are not doing a way cut back or eliminated their recruitment to high schools for the branch campuses.
And also at Platteville, there is an allegation of a missing million dollars from their foundation, which nobody wants to talk about.
And instead of having a real audience to find out
why these campuses are not recruited into the two years, which a large part is causing the lack of enrollment.
You have Rothman and Evers and all the Republicans jointly hiding behind this facade of, well, the numbers are down, it doesn't add up.
All of them are guilty.
And this is some kind of an unholy, spooky cabal by both Republicans and Democrats and an attack on higher public education in this state.
So spare me J Rothman yet another facade of the truth so that you could go ahead and play lawyer from the 17th floor and attack higher education in this state Got that off my chest Halloween economics here's where we're gonna end Americans spend an average of $296 for Halloween this year Here's how it all adds up the average American spends how much do you think?
Zomber is for Halloween candy to give away at the door
That would be low 58 50 nearly 60 bucks for candy the average household if you have children how much you're spending in the costume
Hi, 48.
So they're spending more of their kids themselves.
I'm glad to hear that.
I'm glad to hear that.
Home and yard decorations, 52 on average and parties and entertainment, 51.
Nationwide, Halloween or Halloween, spending this year, 13 billion with a beat.
Wow.
It's become like the second largest holiday after Christmas.
Quiz question, what's the most popular trick-or-treat candy lovers?
Give yourself a ding on the old sound there.
Well done Yes Reese's peanut butter cups the number one answer on the board
and by the way
because they're good Miss Linda in Richland Center is giving away Reese's peanut butter cups this year and that's despite steep increases in the price of chocolate candy in the last year Oh, and here's a final reason why Halloween spending keeps rising
Pet costumes.
That's right.
Pet costumes.
The average spending on a pet costume for Halloween?
33 bucks.
kids.
So that Fido and Fluffy can look
like something else for Halloween.
for
All right, great show today.
Many thanks to Jane McNair.
Join her, Greg.
Tomorrow morning from 9 until 11.
I'll be with them as well.
Many thanks to Aaron Zahmer.
All you for listening.
Maggie Dawn is next.
Stay tuned for that.
Come on back tomorrow.
We'll see you then, wherever you're fighting for, wherever you believe in.
Do not give up.
Keep
that in your drum.
See you tomorrow.
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