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Are We Overreacting To Trump’s Actions? Probably Not. (Hour 1)
The Todd Allbaugh Show · Wed Oct 8, 2025
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Good afternoon, everybody.
Todd Alba, along with Mr. Aaron Zummers, our producer and engineer on the board.
It is six minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this Wednesday, October 8th, 2025.
It is a great day.
to be a Wisconsinite and it is pump day.
That's right.
Even on perhaps clinch afternoon for the Milwaukee Brewers, the camel has his gold and blue jersey on in the wings here.
It's fantastic.
Welcome everybody to a midweek edition of the show.
Got my October baseball t-shirt on.
I've worn it every day of the playoffs.
Yes, I wash it in between.
But I didn't want to break that tradition until, you know, they don't win a game.
But hopefully they can clinch tonight.
And you can hear this afternoon, actually, our second hour, at least the first half hour from three until 3.30 will essentially be an extra pregame show for the Brewers.
You can hear it on several of our stations this afternoon.
Some of our stations will break away from this program for the Brewers pregame show right around 3.30.
That'll be on WRCE in Richland Center, WISS in Oshkosh.
WCQM in Park Falls and WBZH in Hayward, Wisconsin.
Our show will continue on the stream, as they say, but over the air on those stations, the Brewers pregame first pitch just after four o'clock in the friendly confines of Wrigley Field.
Let's hope it's friendly for the crew this afternoon.
Very, very excited.
We'll talk Brewers baseball.
Have some highlights on Quentin Priester, also of manager Pat Murphy a little bit later on.
Also,
So in hour number two, we're gonna talk to a member of the Mung, Wisconsin Chamber of Commerce as they have festivities going on this weekend up the beautiful Chippewa Valley area.
And speaking of, the Chippewa Valley's favorite native son, the one, the only, the host, the morning's of Patrick Crichtlow every morning from six until nine from not Lake Wissota, but it's a secure undisclosed location.
Pat Crichtlow, how are you?
I'm doing fine.
An official yee-haw from down here in Dallas, where I am traveling, visiting daughters and grandkids and things like that.
And after a tour of the Fort Worth Stockyards yesterday, there was there a lot of shops there.
I was so tempted to go into one of the Dallas Cowboys pro shops and just
yell, you know, where's the packer gear at?
But knowing what I know about how many people carry guns in Texas, I thought the better of it and decided I'd rather be here today.
So
here I am.
Thank you.
Even even on his when he's out of town, he still makes time for us.
We appreciate that.
And from our just outside of our nation's capital, River Falls, Boy originally now living in the greater DC area and senior advisor of the Lincoln Project, Mr. Trigvie Olson.
Trigvie, you're going to be out back here in Wisconsin by the end of the.
week.
baby.
That's fantastic.
You bring the fam up for a little college official college visit, right?
College visit.
Yep.
That's true.
O Claire.
That's that's it.
My fingers across.
You got a blue gold in the family.
I'm hoping
Well, she's taking it, you know, not the way that we all did with with an abacus, you know, and having to hammer and chisel our answers onto a slab.
So
graduated.
I graduated high school 1988 and I was the last class.
that did not have to take either the ACT or the SAT to get into college, and I did not take it.
And look where that got, look where that got you.
Well, look where that got you, buddy.
Study harder, boys and girls.
That's all I can tell you.
Although
it's us
mid-afternoon.
exactly.
I don't know but Pat you your kids are Out of the house now you've gone through this empty nest or can you give any advice to our friend Trigby as you watch your kids get older?
just enjoy every day it goes so fast we're down here visiting our older daughter both our daughters are in their mid 30s now and the older daughter is facing well one one out of the nest already and after taking PSATs and everything else as opted to join the Air Force and we're very proud of him for that
the other won't be that far behind and it's weird to have your own daughter talking about
how fast it's going before she thinks about being an empty nester herself when to us I mean there's times you turn around you expect to see that's the six year old back there but no she's she's a she's a mom of a 19 year old herself and so just enjoy this time trig because it seems to plot a long day by day but boy in hindsight it'll it'll feel like it went in the blink of an eye
And I don't have
any kids of my own, but my oldest godson was back from Indianapolis.
He is a graduate of UW Madison, as is my younger godson as well.
And when they come home, it's fantastic.
You feel like, oh, they still remember you.
Oh, you know.
So that's cool.
No, it's great.
Well, Trevi, safe travels.
We're looking forward to you.
Are you going to come on your pop?
Do we get you here in person on Friday?
depends.
All right.
And don't forget the University of Wisconsin homecoming week is this week and the parade in the late afternoon.
Take her to that.
It's fun to watch the band and the floats go through.
So that's a lot of fun as well.
of guy.
and provide lectures in what not to do as you watch some of the revelers overdo
it.
I look forward to hanging out with Trigby this weekend.
Gentlemen, let's get to a little news of the day.
Breaking of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel this morning, Microsoft Corp has pulled its plans for a Caledonia data center after opposition from area residents and elected officials.
In the story by Ricardo Torres of the Journal Sentinel today, quote, based on the community feedback we heard, we have chosen not
to move forward with the site, unquote, according to Microsoft's statement given to the Journal Sentinel.
They say they remain committed to investing in Southeast Wisconsin.
Look forward to working with the Village of Caledonia and Racine County leaders to identify another property.
Microsoft is still planning a second data center in Mount Pleasant where there's been little opposition.
Also, a story we'll get into a little bit later here in the show if we have time as well.
A big meeting in Port Washington last night over an eight
billion dollar AI data center.
Charlie Barron's of Keeper Moving Fame, had the Cripes cast here on Civic Media.
Of course, he was at that meeting.
And Pat, Charlie Barron doesn't wade into politics too much, but he's really taken his cards out there and spoken out against these data centers and what it would mean to Wisconsinites in terms of our water, in terms of pollutants, in terms of energy.
And I give him credit for that.
I do as well, and I'm going to admit that for as many things in the news that I try to stay very much on top of and very current and have a thought-out take on any given thing, I will be the first to tell you, I'm not there yet on data centers, and here's why.
It's not like we're going to have less computing.
in the future where we go, you know, we don't we don't need as much computing.
We're going to need more computing.
So the question is not whether but how.
And so I saw a little bit about the coverage of the Microsoft Center, the way that they were looking to offset the energy and the water usage through reclamation, through reclaiming wetlands, through water recycling.
And I guess I still want to know
Maybe the right word is if or how we make these data centers, you know more or less environmentally Potentially hazardous, I guess is the right way to say it not having said that I'm not saying that these data centers need a blank check I for one think that that cryptocurrency is absolute garbage and is using up
so much more electricity and other resources and is a complete and utter waste.
But in terms of needing data for our increasingly knowledge-based economy,
I'm not going to be the one who, as a knee-jerk reaction says, all data centers are bad.
I guess I just want to know more first before I take that kind of a position on them.
Zahra, keep me honest.
I got Old Man Mind Syndrome.
We had a guest here from Clean, Wisconsin.
I forget her name.
Amy Berrio.
Thank you very much.
Amy Berrio, yep.
But on Pat
Iran, too.
She puts forth a great case about it.
Absolutely don't quibble with it.
But she makes the point that they're not necessarily completely anti.
We never want to see them.
But to your point, Pat, you got to think
through this and make sure they're done the right way.
Trig V, is this an issue out in your neck of the woods out in the greater Arlington, Virginia area?
Or do you have thoughts on these on these data centers and what it potentially could do to our natural resources?
It doesn't matter whether you're a duck hunter or a kayaker or you just like a good walleye without PFAS in it.
I think that these questions need to be asked before you just go ahead with it.
Yes, it is an issue.
You know, they're building, they built a bunch of them out here quite honestly.
It's usually just outside.
Obviously there's usually local people who are opposing it.
There's one, I was just reading about in Foquaw County where they're, it's a little, it's probably 40 miles outside of
DC.
because they don't want the jobs and whatever.
You know, they can only be built in really specific places.
I hear what you guys are saying, and I do think there has to be more understanding of what the environmental impact is of the data centers.
I also think, though, we have to recognize that we're in a competition with China and a lot of other places, but particularly China, and they are not waiting around to build data centers.
They're building them.
And, you know, there, there, there needs to be real thought into where they're building them.
They have to have, you know, substantial power sources nearby to make it work.
I this is a fascinating
discussion because
think I'm the furthest left on this of the three of us.
That's fascinating to
Yeah.
I mean.
It strikes me as a little bit remember when they were gonna build Walmart distribution centers and people were really against them and people were worried about the impact of Amazon distribution centers versus jobs But in this particular case, you know, we are in AI is going to and it's kind of cliche but doing a lot of work around AI It is going to transform lots of things and we are in a competition with China
I don't disagree with that, but it reminds me.
We can't be waiting around.
I was
in the Capitol when Scott Walker tried to redo the mining laws in the state, and Tom Tiffany, and it was disaster.
And the Foxconn in Southeast Wisconsin, there was jobs promised.
Charlie Barron's made the point last night at the Port Washington meeting that a lot of these data centers are robotic.
So is there really going to be these great jobs for Wisconsin?
It's just hauntily familiar to the Scott Walker days of mining and Foxconn for me.
in
You
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Well, we love you, Pat.
It's great to have you here.
Also love Trick Me Also.
He joins us just outside the nation's capital senior advisor to Lincoln Project.
Guys, I want to get to this happening this afternoon, according to Scott Bauer.
Great reporter here at the state capital of Madison from the Associated Press this afternoon.
President Trump this afternoon said the Illinois governor and Chicago mayor.
Both Democrats should be jailed as they oppose his deployment of National Guard troops for immigration and crime crackdown in the nation's third largest city.
The officials said they would not be deterred.
Trump made the comments on a social media post, the latest example of his brazen calls for his opponents to be prosecuted or locked up a break from longtime norms as the U.S.
Justice Department traditionally has strived to maintain his independence from the White House.
Trump this afternoon on his so-called truth social platform said that Mayor Brandon Johnson and Governor J.B.
Pritzker, quote, should be in jail for failing to protect ICE officers.
Unquote.
It was a reference to the U.S.
immigration and customs enforcement.
There's no immediate clarity from the White House on what Trump was objecting to.
Pat Crichtlow.
Dear
media, dear White House press floor.
Upon second reference to Trump, you can start at first.
Trump calls for so-and-so to be arrested.
On second reference, how are you not following it with Trump?
a convicted felon who himself would be in prison were it not for gaming the court system and running out the clock.
would be in prison orange right now.
We have a convicted criminal as president.
If you don't note that when he's busy calling for other people to be thrown in prison, as far as I'm concerned, you're doing your job.
If not wrong, it's less complete than it could be.
Stop saying washing who this man is when he says such outrageous
things.
Trivielson, as noted on previous programs, if people are the first time listeners, you spend a goodly part of your career fighting against authoritarianism in Eastern Europe, particularly through the efforts of the late great US Senator John McCain.
You've been on the ground before.
You've seen these things up close and explain to people in just a couple of minutes if you can, and we can pick it up, you and I, on the other side.
But is not this just another example of what authoritarians do?
Yeah, I mean 100% and I mean talk about ridiculous, right like But this should outrage people I mean you would think that people he wants them arrested and yet you've got ice officer shooting priests in the head with Pepper pepper balls.
I mean really is that what we are?
I Just wonder I how how do people
And here's the other thing.
I mean, like I was out in Portland maybe three months ago, four months ago.
Beautiful city.
I didn't the idea that there's some kind of mass insurrection going on in Portland, Oregon.
It's just.
It's just invented.
Yes.
It's just inventions.
My step-brother and his
wife lived in Portland for over 10 years.
I just saw him last week.
He was in Toronto at the same time I was.
He said, Todd, this is literally a one-block area of some protests.
That's it.
They had the Portland Marathon last weekend.
No problem.
This is completely fabricated.
It's a distraction.
It's completely fabricated because, again, that keeps us from talking about the fact that they want to rip away people's health care, which is why the government
shut down.
They're looking for any kind of a distraction from still covering up for sexual predator and former Trump friend Jeffrey Epstein.
These are all distractions that, again, too many folks in the media entertain without providing the perspective of the distraction and Trump's record and what people are really worried about, which is their health care, which is inflation, which is, you know, the lack of
democracy, democratic norms in this country and instead we keep playing the Trump entertainment game.
Do you know that tomorrow I'm gonna have in the history lesson a little note about Spiro Agnew and the anniversary of his resignation of having to resign in disgrace as Richard Nixon's vice president for tax evasion and the final straw was when he accepted $10,000 in cash at the White House from kickbacks dating back to when he was Maryland's governor.
I say that for a reason.
$10,000 for Spiro Agnew.
In the White House right now, why are we not talking more about his Borders are Tom Homan getting $50,000 in cash, having it be recorded and Pam Bondi's Justice Department mysteriously not following up on these things.
So again, media folks, I've now given you several examples of things you could be doing other than really playing up troops going to a city where they're just going to pick up trash for a while and give Trump the photo op distraction that he wants.
You can hear news like that every morning, real news with Pat Critell and Morty is a Pat Critell from six until nine.
Quickly, Pat, only less than a minute left here, but Josh Call decides to run for reelection as AG and not for governor.
Mandela Barnes thinking about it, your reaction.
Josh Call could have waltzed right into the race if he wanted to.
It says a lot that he wants to continue to stand up against Trump's authoritarianism as Attorney General.
Like I said this morning, he is showing a clear difference between a real Attorney General versus a theatrical fake like Pam Bondi.
All right, very good.
When we come back, Trig V and I will discuss a little bit more about what's going on militarily and how does that line up of what he saw with the authoritarian in Eastern Europe and what could it mean for the U.S.
in the future and take a few calls as well.
855-752-4842.
Patrick, we'll see you next week and everybody can see it in the morning.
Thank you very much.
Safe
Come on back.
Welcome back to the Taliban show on the Civic Media radio network.
It's 35 minutes now past the hour of two o'clock and a Wednesday, October 8th, 2025.
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Dave and New Berlin says, I found Richland Center on a map.
That's fed to my hometown.
Thank you.
And he sends long as congratulations for the recognition got last week at home of the UW Richland Alumni Board.
So that was very nice.
Thanks a lot.
Thanks for listening, Dave.
Always appreciate you having you along and we always appreciate having our friend, Trig V. Olson along as well.
native of River Falls, Wisconsin, former Republican like myself, and now a senior advisor with the Lincoln Project.
Talking a little bit more about this story this afternoon, Associated Press, other places have it as well.
Donald Trump on his Truth Social platform, saying this about the Illinois governor and mayor of Chicago, quote, they should be in jail for failing to protect ICE officers, unquote.
calling for the jailing of duly elected officials that a period.
There's no evidence they've done anything worth being in jail for.
Trigvie, I just want to pick up on this.
Well, let's first go to the phone calls and we'll talk a little bit more, 855-752-4842.
Mark, in prayer to sack.
Mark, what do you want to say?
Yeah, well, I heard Trigvie's frustration there when I was on hold.
I agree that, but I've got my FCC.
filtered in place but for ron johnson to be whining about uh... and other republican wanting about being investigated over the january six insurrection plot that they were involved in via the uh... fake electors conspiracy that uh... you know if you don't commit the crime don't don't complain about the fact when you actually get investigative work because each and every one of those guys they conspired against the citizens of the united states
and the constitution of the united states on the fourteenth amendment because they did not want to recognize our votes for president of the united states in that election they conspired against us in a continuing conspiracy to my understanding it started out long before the election even occurred that plans in place to try to overturn this this election that election and for them to whining about that now is is just beyond me it is just uh...
People are going to probably get fired for investigating this.
They committed a crime.
Pure and simple.
They haven't been to, you know, that too many of them were not charged, but they committed...
A violation of the oath to the Constitution.
Thanks, Mark.
I appreciate the call.
That was my fault.
I need new glasses, Trigvie.
That's the point here, because I saw that Zommer's put on there that was a different topic.
But that's fine.
That's fine.
It's always a pull-per-eat.
Trigvie doesn't mind jumping around.
And he caught me.
I'm
not sure if
you saw that out in D.C., Trigvie, but Ron Johnson whining this week because, you know, he was at the FBI.
Guess what?
Was looking at him because he was a part of trying to, essentially, a part
I saw it.
They weren't really looking at it.
They weren't tapping these guys' phones.
They went after the fact to try and see who Trump and was, they knew he was calling US senators and they pulled for all kinds of people.
They pulled data of who people were calling.
That's not tapping someone's phones.
Oh no.
His phone wasn't tapped so it's really dissent and Ron Johnson knows that I mean, he's just he's being disingenuous.
He's he's a lot I mean he and little Johnson have a lot in common
Mike
little jobs Let's get back to it because I think this is real your perspective means a lot to me because you're someone you've written
I keep telling trade me you should write a book the seven rules of authority and dealing with the authoritarian because you've done this and and you've gone up against authoritarians in Eastern Europe and The question I asked you off the air.
I'm gonna ask let you answer it on the air is is this just over-the-top reaction from talk show hosts like me and other people and I want to be very very careful but in Germany in Nazi Germany one of the key moments
of the Nazi movement is when they burned down the Reichstag, which essentially their capital, their Congress, and it gave the Nazis and Hitler an opportunity to say, see, look how terrible things are.
We have to take control of the country and the government and to spend the rule of law.
I'm not going, I'm not crossing the Rubicon and calling Trump, you know, Hitler or Maga Nazis, but is
with this militarization in major cities by Trump, him calling in all the generals and the flag officers over 800 last week.
He and Hague Seth gave those ridiculous speeches.
And now with what he's saying today, Trump, that the Governor of Illinois and Mayor of Chicago should be jailed, it feels like to me, Trig V, that MAGA and Trump in particular, those around him closest, are looking for a Reichstag moment.
to say, see how bad things are and give them an opportunity to invoke the insurrection act.
Is that over the top?
I mean, I mean, I said on a podcast two years ago that that was kind of where I thought, you know, that's what these guys do.
You know, they they create the chaos and then they use the chaos as pretense.
And in terms of
You know, and there's an element of it that's ridiculous.
I mean, Kristi Noem standing in Portland on a rooftop looking out at the the carnage and basically it's a guy dressed as a unicorn and another one in a bear suit like that.
Seriously, like whatever.
But it isn't really about that.
It's about, you know, are they going to get people to sit in silence and go along with it?
and people who could do something about it.
And to date, you know, there have been judges standing up to him.
I think, you know, what I found really troubling is a judge in South Carolina who had ruled against him had her house burned down.
Like these kinds of things are really bad omens and we're not.
The United States of America is not Nazi Germany in the 1930s.
But the autocratic tactics that Donald Trump is using are a tried and true playbook of what autocrats do.
And I talk about it at a fair amount.
All these guys are the same guy.
I really think autocratic personality disorder is something that needs to be defined.
Because they all have the same paranoia.
And what you have to understand is what's dangerous about them is they have all these enablers around them and they have some true loyalists.
And those true loyalists are going to go to any ends to try and please the leader
and
Tony watching on YouTube says but won't they just?
Manufacture a quote-unquote incident whether it actually happens or not They don't live in reality.
Thank you, Tony to that
percent you You're somebody who gets AI pretty well, and I think that's I think that's one of the fears of a lot of folks out there
is that we're seeing this in entertainment this week, the most in pictures associations coming out because they've now created an AI actress that's so realistic that you cannot tell whether it's a live human being or not.
And I think that's a real concern of folks that just watching what's on your phone or on television, we've gotten to the point now where you don't really know what's real and what's not.
I mean, that predates AI, Todd.
People have been struggling with, you know, they know there are things that are not true.
But when you reach a point where people are uncertain what is true, then they farm out their truths to leaders or people.
And, you know, even if they intuitively think that it maybe isn't true, I will say this, I
It's the kind of thing with these kinds of things that are happening, that what it really is going to require and where it's going to be solved is around kitchen dinner tables and in bars with people having a few drinks and really.
How do you get people to reach the cognitive dissonance of those who are who are supportive, even tacitly of it to recognize that they're advocating for things through their political choices that are antithetical to who they are as people?
I think I could agree with you more.
I was hanging out with a mutual friend of ours last night and she was telling me that now there's a service where you can hire someone, a human being to take a walk with you.
that there is finally starting to be a little bit of a, of a backlash to the AI media world where people actually want real relationships.
It's like, wait, how do I do this?
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Let's go to beautiful Spooner, Wisconsin, where we find Paul, listening up in Spooner.
Hey, how you doing
today?
Thanks, Paul.
What do you got?
Well, I looked at the way the government, the way the president has thrown out his rhetoric.
And it comes back to one thing, and I believe that he's trying to create so much chaos in this country.
He's trying so hard to find a war that he can get himself into.
He needs a war.
The last three Republican presidents all started wars.
Ronald Reagan was reelected after he started his war.
The country team behind him stood around him, even when he degraded because he wanted a war so bad.
Then he got pushed one.
He created a war.
He was able to get himself reelected.
Bush too, he created a war, but it only lasted.
George
Bush didn't create a war.
Iraq invaded Kuwait.
George H.W.
Bush didn't start a war.
Iraq invaded Kuwait.
And we went in because they believed, I was working in the Congress at the time, there was a real fear they were going to go into Saudi Arabia and take out the oil fields.
So to say that George HW Bush started a war is just he did go to war with broad bipartisan support because Tom
Foley and the rest
Wasn't that the wasn't that part of the whole thing of the lie about the the weapons that didn't exist?
I'm
Go ahead, Paul, quickly.
Anyway, sorry.
What I'm trying to get to is, I think the division in the country is going to get so bad that Donald Trump is looking for a reason to call off the election.
That's my thought.
And I think that the beginning of this whole thing was I'm going to go back to the Bundy issue when Bundy did the call to arms and everybody raced across the country and laid down on the freeway overpasses with the rifles as a show of force.
I believe that we are going to that right now in Donald Trump as about 1,500 people that were insurrectionists at one time that were rewarded for that type of behavior and are more than willing to look forward to doing it
again.
Thanks.
Thanks, Paul.
I appreciate your listenership, Mr. Puder.
Yeah, I mean, Paul's onto it, and this is not a Republican-Democrat thing.
There is nothing more dangerous in terms of conflict, military conflict, than aging autocrats.
You're seeing it with Vladimir Putin.
You saw it with Saddam Hussein.
You see it all the time.
And it is a danger with Donald Trump.
100%.
He is right about that.
We'll come back for Trig V. Olsen on the other side.
Can the Packers get back on the, on the Schneide?
Get off the Schneide.
Get on a win this week.
We'll ask the owner,
Trig V. Olsen, after this.
Don't go anywhere.
It's the Civic Media Radio.
It's the Packers trying to get back on the winning streak against the Bengals.
A new quarterback, the Flockster, is in the crowd who has beaten the Packers before.
You can see it all.
Not on Monday night football, but on Sunday afternoon football.
Trigvie is very
Badgers going to a 6 p.m.
game on Saturday because he has tickets to both.
You understand?
This is how Trigvie also rolls.
He's got tickets to the Badgers on Saturday and to the Packers on Sunday afternoon.
It's unfortunate that you, you took the prompt, Todd, because I was going to do a whole Howard Costell.
All right.
Well, I didn't, you didn't tell me that.
I didn't know what to do.
It's Wednesday afternoon here on the Todd All Bow Show.
Todd is distracted.
As is all of the great state of Wisconsin, because the Brewers, who have never won a world title like the Minnesota Twins, will be playing tonight in another effort that will probably end in futility.
Don't say that!
It's afternoon,
by the way, as well.
See, he's a...
Twins fan.
All right, knock it off.
I gave you a chance.
The Brewers
Dave
Horam.
Dave about Horam says a very respectable Howard Cosell.
Dave and New Berlin.
Let's go quick
into Troy.
I get
lots of impersonations.
Troy about Horam.
Troy, what do you got for us?
Hey, Trigby, if you're going to the game, I'll buy you a beer.
right, which one
all the bad the Packer game, I'm sorry Yeah, all right.
have I have a friend
Been Green Bay on Saturday.
Zoders and Zovers are going to have to play Paper Rock and Scissors to see you get sent to the game.
But you see, Troy, this is the difference between my life and Trigby's life.
Trigby
has friends that fly
in on their own private jet.
Yeah, I don't know anybody flying a private jet.
No, I don't either.
I don't either.
Even easier than me I was gonna say if you were leaving from Madison to go to Green Bay I know I know a secret way that Oh, there's no traffic on well, maybe you can get your seat
on the jet Troy Don't
air
All right, thank you, Troy.
I appreciate it.
Have a good day out there at Mount Orop.
All right, Somers, I think one of us may not be going to the game.
I will figure it out.
All right.
Trigby Packers get underway on Sunday 325 kickoff at Lambeau Field.
Boy, that was a tough game.
A couple of weeks go down in Dallas.
Are they going to be able to get
Get off the Shrine.
I was going to tell you, you could actually leave after jump around at the end of the third quarter because the game will probably be done
Yeah.
Do you know whose kid plays for Iowa?
Who?
Mike Johnson.
Like Speaker Mike Johnson?
No, like Mike Johnson up and oh, you're you're friend up and yeah, I did not know that I guess I kind of did but I forgot freshman tight and dad Wow Iowa.
Well, is Mike good?
I don't know I need to text him But everything's all screwed up with me in the game now.
I know It's tough trippy.
being trippy Olson, right?
That's what's going to happen.
So before we let you go here, any, uh, any, any news on your neck of the woods out there in DC, uh, how long has this shut down down, get to go for?
And now Trump using it as a bargaining chip, in my opinion, saying that they're not going to pay some of these federal workers for back pay, as has always happened in the past.
There's
because I'm wondering as I look at my...
my feeds, my social media, because I'm seeing this morning, the same thing you're seeing, that a lot of people are nervous, a lot of Naga folks are nervous, because this is going to be a real thing once they swear in this new Democratic representative from Arizona, which Mike Johnson has been dragging out for so long.
the rumblings, I saw that it's worked its way to social media, but that started circling maybe Monday, Sunday, Monday.
So it's real.
So there is, yeah, I think, I mean, there's a lot of pressure on that.
So, you know, and I do think there are members that are getting concerned about the.
the look of the National Guard.
Right.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Not good.
Not getting paid while being deployed.
It's an all-star cast.
You don't have to wait till Monday night.
You can hear him every Wednesday.
Trig V. Olsen of the Lincoln Project.
Thank you very much.
My friend will see you Saturday, I think.
And you'll
I'll be on Friday.
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