Mondays with Matenaer – Brewer Fever and Drag Brunch (Hour 1)

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Mondays with Matenaer – Brewer Fever and Drag Brunch (Hour 1)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Mon Oct 6, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Good afternoon, everybody.

Todd Albaugh along with Mr. Aaron Zomers, our producer and engineer.

It is six minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this Monday back to work and back to school.

October 6th, 2025.

It is a great day.

To be a Wisconsinite, welcome in everybody to the World Headquarters, Downtown Madison at the crossroads of State Street and Fairchild.

On an overcast day, finally, Zomers feels more like fall.

Finally, and I'm very grateful for it.

Todd Allbaugh

You're wearing long pants today.

I

am, and it's nice.

I like to be able to wear pants if I so choose.

Todd Allbaugh

Well, yes, we appreciate that.

Beautiful weekend.

in in Wisconsin, warm weather, great opportunities to be out and about.

I'm going to wait till hour two.

I'll tell you more about my weekend, very humbled, very honored, very nice weekend back in in Richland Center.

It was a big weekend.

The UW Richland Alumni Association had their gathering, which I was a part of more of that later.

It was also Richland, my alma mater, Richland Center High School homecoming.

And it was the Center Color Fest, formally known as the Center Color Fiesta, the Bacanin of Lights Parade.

And it was the open house of Oakwood Fruit Farm, one of our great sponsors here at Civic Media.

And I went up there more on this later.

I brought you back, Zombers, an apple, as well as one for Luke Mathers and myself here.

They have a new varietal.

They're carrying...

at Oakwood Fruit Farm.

Learned all about it from Steve Lewis, one of the, uh, one of the owners up there at Oakwood.

And it's, it's absolutely fantastic.

And more, it's called Rave.

The Apple.

R-A-V-E.

R-A-V-E, the Rave Apple, also known as First Kiss.

How about that?

Spicy.

Todd Allbaugh

So, yeah, well, and we're going to talk more about that with our guest here.

We continue our Mondays with Matt Nair.

segment coming up at 235 today, our friend and colleague and co-host of Matt Nair on air, the one, the only, the legendary Jane Matt Nair is going to be here.

We'll talk, what is Jane, is she an orchard kind of person in the fall?

And if so, what are some of her favorite activities?

Also going to talk about big story we covered last week continues this military raid.

I'm not sure what else you would call it.

and an apartment complex on the south side of Chicago, and the lack of continuing ongoing coverage on the national scene.

We talked about the great local reporting by ABC Channel 7 in Chicago, and now we're gonna maybe play a clip of this later on, new reporting from CBS Local Channel in Chicago.

But the national news media continues to either just not talk about it or downplay it.

We'll get Jane's thoughts on that.

And also going to find out where Jane McNair was back in 1982 as she was working in Milwaukee media and what the vibe was in the city of Milwaukee because that's where we're going to start today.

Oh, by the way, we have a what's worse an hour number two.

And we're going to tell you some winners of our green and gold.

Text to win contest that wrapped up on Friday But I want to start if you're watching on YouTube Facebook Twitter and the like you see that I am decked out in my October baseball brew crew postseason t-shirt Got the crew hat on and yes the number eight Bob Uker jersey because Baseball is a very traditional suspicious superstitious sport

And so I thought, well, we did this on Friday and the crew, not just one, but they've got a huge win over the Cubs on Saturday.

And so I'm like, well, you got to repeat that.

The Brewers play game two of the National League divisional series tonight in Milwaukee at Amfam Field.

Broadcast starts at 7 30 on many of our stations across civic media.

First pitch.

from Amfam Field just after eight o'clock local time in Milwaukee.

You can hear it live over the air on WRCE and Richland Center, WISS in Oshkosh, WCQM in Park Falls and on WBZH in beautiful Hayward, Wisconsin.

Remember, we can't stream it because Major League Baseball owns these streaming rights, but you can hear it live over the air.

What a game it was on Saturday.

I had this event for the UW Richland Alumni Foundation on on late into the morning Saturday and early afternoon.

So we didn't get back to mom's house until into the second inning.

And I turned it on.

There's the crew up eight to one.

Yeah.

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And I'm like, what the heck happened?

It was it was a pounding by the Brewers on the Cubs.

What a way to start this best of five game series, as we said, that very important game number two coming up tonight.

Want to play you a little audio, catch you up courtesy of our great sports reporter, Mike Clemens, who is there to give some great live reporting during the game over his social media and continues to do Yeoman's work for this network in bringing you some of the best cuts around.

This is former Milwaukee Brewer manager Craig council now the manager for the Chicago Cubs on the first loss of the cubbies

Greg obviously one loss and not more than one loss But just given how it went does it change your view of the series at all?

Well, I mean we're down one nothing nothing nothing else changes besides that.

It's one nothing.

I don't think

You know I'm not sure we'd manage the game game differently on Monday up one nothing down one nothing So it I'm not sure it does we just we made it harder for ourselves.

We got to win three out of four now They got to win two out of four.

That's it

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manager the Cubs Craig counsel Then he was asked about his club houses reaction how the Cubs handle this

Devastating loss in game.

I'm sorry.

I'm chuckling by get a big kick out of this you understand as a as a brewers fan Here's counsel on the clubhouse reaction to the loss on Saturday,

you know like the game got away from us early So it's it's not like it did right it got away from us.

So And it's a loss and you kind of you move on from it quickly There's no penalty.

There's no it's it's one loss.

It's no doesn't count for more how you lose we didn't lose well, but

Sometimes, you know, not, you know, a close game could have cost us some pitching type stuff too.

So we lost and you move on.

That's how the clubhouse fell.

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Craig Council after the loss by the Cubs on Saturday.

Zombers, do you have a chance to listen or watch any of the game on Saturday?

I was watching it.

I watched the whole thing on, I think TNT is what it was on.

Yes, on TNT.

Which, um, let me tell you, I should have muted it and put on the radio as the audio because they were.

They were also making inaccurate announcements.

They'd be like, all right, it's bottom of this inning.

The score is five and one.

And they're like, no, it's eight and one.

How are you three behind?

Todd Allbaugh

The game was great, though.

The game was great.

I don't think the television crew for TNT baseball is not their main action.

I believe that is the case.

Yeah.

Todd Allbaugh

It was it was fantastic.

The only bad thing if you want to say a concerning thing for the Brewers really on Saturday was Jackson Churio.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Zabers.

I think Jackson Churio had three hits by

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the

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second or third inning and set a record and got another hit is third hit.

I think it was any any in the first inning he rounded.

I think second base or first base and kind of had a weird.

tweak it is in the way he was running.

And that may have affected his hamstring.

If you remember, he sat out for about a month during the regular season.

Sure, you did with a hamstring injury and those, they call it soft tissue injuries can be a real bear to recover from, but he did, came back and, and then he got this third hit.

I think it was, and he ran it out, was safe at first base, but came up with a little gimpy and Murph and the.

athletic trainer came out and checked on him and you could read Churio's lips and he said, I'm fine.

Well, they took him out anyway and they went in and did an MRI with pretty nervous, pretty nervous after the game.

It sounded like Murph used the word, I believe this could keyword could be devastating for him.

But.

And it turns out that for the MRI and Clemens had reporting on this that as of yesterday, Cheerio was in uniform and doing some light base running.

And now here today, here's manager of the Brewers, Pat Murphy, updating us on Jackson Cheerio.

The MRI came back and we still, it's inconclusive and it's not a serious hamstring strain.

But it's not necessarily something that won't limit him.

So we're going to kind of see how he feels.

He's going to go through some testing and if he feels anything, we're going to shut it down.

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Pat Murphy on, I think that's right approach.

You try, but you don't, you don't want to, I think it's better to use him sparingly, especially in today's game, if at all, and let him recoup a little bit.

You don't want to tear the thing or injured to the point where he can't play at all.

for the rest of the postseason.

So, look, I mean, they did really well.

I mean, maybe not as well without Cheerio, but they found a way to win without him.

So, but certainly concerning for the Brewers.

Definitely.

But I would much rather see him later in the season than see him a little bit today and then not at all.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, absolutely.

Terry and Wasall, the CWXCL, by the way, we're gonna be doing this show next week from beautiful...

WXCO, Bull Falls Radio.

They're having a big open house on Thursday.

We're going to broadcast the show live from WXCO in Warsaw.

So come down and see us more of that later.

Terry, listening up here at Warsaw, says it was on TBS.

I think it was the TBS crew, but boy, unless I was watching it on YouTube, but I thought it came across on TNT on my channel.

So it's all part of Turner Broadcasting.

Yeah, what I remember seeing and hearing.

It's had the TNT logo on the bug

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in the corner.

But when they were

talking, they were saying, oh,

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TBS.

It's all a big glummer.

But thank you, Terry, for keeping me honest.

I appreciate that.

Here's Pat Murphy again, talking about the pitching for today.

Quinn Priester had been scheduled.

But here's Murph saying, who's going to go to the mountain for the crew today?

Murph, what are your pitching plans?

Yeah, Ashby's going to start.

No, no, I don't I don't know if priest will be next.

I really don't

Todd Allbaugh

Keep it a cagey Murph is I love that Confusing Craig Council a little bit keeping him off guard off kilter So as Aaron Ashby on the mound tonight for the crew again pregame on many of our fine stations gets underway at 7 30 first pitch from am fam just after eight o'clock hit out wait It's gonna be fantastic and

We need some good news in these times.

We need a distraction from what can be a little overwhelming news and something that brings us together.

And I was in Richland County a lot this weekend.

Spent a little time here in Madison on Friday night.

People are pumped.

I walked by, got some Wonder State coffee this morning on the square.

I'm wearing this shirt, my October baseball.

Brew Crew shirt and the construction guys working on the new historical center up here on the square where the guys yells out, let's go Brewers.

I have my hands full so I could

clap.

Just like I just did right now.

Todd Allbaugh

But yeah, but people are people are excited.

People are into it.

And I I'm really well, if we have time later, we'll play this clip I've got of the Brewers organization went up to several of the players.

Before the game Saturday and said hey, what's the vibe and they all answered it and they seemed pretty loose in a good way Not a not a cocky way, but just like hey we got this and and I think that was one of the biggest Concerns coming into Saturday's game.

Were they gonna be tense?

Were they gonna be too tight to while in too tight?

But boy they they came out loose ready to go and and ready to hit Pat Murphy was asked another question at the post game

Press conference on Saturday, Mike Clemens was there.

We're gonna play this for you.

You're not gonna wanna miss it because he uses one of my favorite expressions, part of which had to be bleeped out.

We'll play it for you after this, Pat Murphy, with some censored material on the civic media radio network.

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That's right catch it.

It's Brewer fever.

Welcome back to the title ball show on the civic media running at work 23 now past the hour of two o'clock Song made famous back in 1982 when the Brewers made that historic World Series run came up just a bit outside By the way, I had that great film just a bit outside the story of the 82 Brewers our friends Kelly Collins Sean Hannes Paul Giaconi Barry

Super fantastic film still available and available at new places including to be if you watch stream on to be it's available on there now in addition to Roku with a Roku channel and it can either rent it or buy it on Apple TV Amazon Prime and of course the DVD if you haven't seen it yet watch it because

It's we're gonna ask Jane McNair a friend and colleague of a co-host of Matt Nair on air after 230 because she was working in the Milwaukee market on radio in 1982 gonna ask her I think I shouldn't say that I think it she was in the Milwaukee market But we'll ask her what the vibe was in the media and otherwise I have not felt even though I know the Brewers went to the NC LS in 2018 and I was a big follower of that

lost game seven, of course, to the Dodgers.

But.

I don't know.

I don't know what it is for.

For me, I think it's just the buy-in of the players and the fact there are so many of, as they call themselves, average Joe's on this team.

It makes it more exciting.

For me, too.

And I've said it multiple times.

I'll say it again.

It's the the attitude of all the players and the whole team and Murphy and everybody is just, you know,

We're going to do our best.

We're going to take ourselves seriously.

We got this, but not in a cocky way.

And, you know, honest and reflective the whole way through, like, yep, that wasn't my best.

Here's how I can fix it tomorrow.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah.

No, they had the 10 last little thing.

You know, I can have a memory of a goldfish.

Yeah.

Just be a goldfish.

All right.

So here's I get our great sports reporter, Mike Clemens.

Nobody's covering this run by the Brewers better than our own Mike Clemens.

We're so fortunate to have him.

He brings us a cut.

Brewers manager Pat Murphy.

After the game on Saturday, the reporter asked him if Murphy or Clemens or somebody else asks him Murphy about the handshake and why he doesn't do it and what's going on here.

This is beautiful golden as they say.

Here's the interview or part of this interview from Saturday of Pat Murphy.

Murphy, when they do the pregame chalk lineups, why don't you shake your players' hands?

When we do the pregame... When you line up on the first baseline, all the players come right down, they give their teammates high fives, and then you stare Blake Perkins in the eye and...

Don't shake

his hand.

Don't shake his hand.

Why do you do that?

It's tradition.

It's been a tradition.

I've done it for 10 years now.

Whenever we've had introductions, I just think it's... I call it happy horse manure, you know what I mean?

It's a bunch of happy horse.

It sounds better when I use the other word, but I'm not going to use it because I don't use that kind of language public setting.

But it's just like a lot of happy horses.

You know what I mean?

Like you just keep, we got a lot of this, you know, and then you go down the line and shake their hands and then they go warm up and then they come in the dugout and you shake their hands and you do some crazy handshake with them.

You know what I mean?

And I'm like, this is a lot of happy horses.

Let's play the game.

And it's kind of a tradition.

And then if you remember way in

Way back, I don't know what year.

Arcea like punched me really hard in the chest almost knocked me down.

Yeah, he's trying to really kind of doing that.

But he knows that.

Yeah, he's been here since since then.

So some players like Vaughn was like so sincere.

He didn't know it.

Some guys forget.

But yes, I never go down and shake their hands.

I just go right to the line.

I didn't know you noticed.

I didn't think anybody noticed.

Todd Allbaugh

See, yet another reason I love Pat Murphy.

Because he's not gonna participate in that happy horse.

Hockey.

Stuff.

Todd Allbaugh

He tried so hard to not say it.

It's one of my favorite terms to describe just, you know, ridiculousness.

It's just a bunch of horse.

Anyway, I thought that was, I thought that was great.

I think it's especially great because the first time he paused so long.

Right.

And then he was trying so hard.

He's like, I'm not going to say that.

I don't say it in public.

And then he just said it twice.

Todd Allbaugh

Because it doesn't add the same effect if you don't use the full word.

Anyway, again, the crew played tonight.

Pre-game show at 7.30, across many of our stations.

First pitch that's after eight o'clock.

Well, that's Jane McNair here in a few minutes, where she was back in 1982, when she was in the industry, where she was working to get her memories on that, and more serious news of the day as well.

Terry and Cross Plains, listening on WMDX off the text line, says, Todd, I walked past a lady with a cub shirt on and told her, good luck tonight.

And she waved at me.

And I said, but no, not really.

Now, I don't know we have all the details here.

Did she give you a one-fingered wave back?

Terry, is that why you got snarky with her?

Because there's no reason to amp this up.

We can be pleasant to each other, you know, unless she was one-finger wave at him.

Right.

So I'm not sure we know the full details on that.

Alice in Cudahay.

Now, this is beautiful.

She sends us on, she, this is her front door.

And she has a Brewer's jersey on number 15 there.

And this is fantastic.

Cecil Cooper's jersey.

And Cecil Cooper is throwing out one of the first pitches tonight, I believe, along with Bob Euker Jr.

And there was one other player.

Escaping my memory right now, but that's fantastic.

Alice and cut a hay listening to us on w a uk has got that and also she sends us a picture of herself in her really cool world series 1982 bucket hat.

That's great.

Todd Allbaugh

How about that?

Alice, thank you so much for your listenership and beautiful cut of hay on WAUK and way to, way to represent and, and get ready for Brewer fever tonight on many of our fine stations.

So exciting.

Brewer's fever, ketchup, little farm news from Pam Yankee, Midwest Farm Report.

And then come on back.

You're not going to want to miss it.

Our own Jane McNair.

Where was she in 82?

What was the vibe like?

And also.

A little more serious news on the national news.

Ignoring the truth of what's going on in this country.

Jane McNair is next.

Don't miss it on the Civic Media.

Pretty dope.

Live from the stages of Milwaukee Riverside Theater.

A starring role by our own Jane McNair and Phantom of the Opera.

Welcome.

Well done, Mr. Zomers.

Wow.

That's great.

Welcome back to the all ball show, the Civic Media Ready Network.

35 minutes now past the hour of two o'clock on this Monday, October 6th.

Applause for Zomers for dialing up little Phantom of the Opera.

For those watching on the stream on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, X, Twix, whichever way you want to call it.

Jane from a lovely home has a lovely candelabra behind her.

And I said it looks a little Phantom of the Opera-ish.

And so that's why Zomers.

And of course, Jane and I are big fans.

the musicals.

So we are.

Yes, we are.

You can hear every morning along with her co-host Greg Bach on Matt Nair on air across many of these fine stations of the Civic Media Ready Network from nine until 11.

The one, the only the legendary Jane Matt Nair.

Jane, how are you?

I am excellent, my friend.

How about yourself?

I've got Brewer Fever.

As you can see, I got my Uker jersey up.

I got my October baseball shirt, my hat on.

I'm set to go.

You know, I am not felt this way since since 82 when the Brewers went to the World Series, of course, came up just a bit outside, as they say, against the Cardinals.

Jane, you are an institution of Southeast Wisconsin.

You're a legend in Milwaukee Broadcasting and Wisconsin Broadcasting, really.

Were you were you on the air?

Were you in the in the in the media, as they say?

And if so, where were you working at in when the Brewers did this?

Well, not to the World Series yet, but

Jane Matenaer

well, they got this kind of fever last time.

Well, Todd, in 1982, I hadn't been born yet.

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I

Jane Matenaer

forgot.

I apologize.

Yes, I still, you know, yeah.

So, you know, in I started my career in 1981, but my very first job was in New Olm, Minnesota.

at KNUJ AM radio, and then we launched an FN station.

One other person and I launched the rock station of the area of KXLP.

And so I was, I didn't move until back to Milwaukee, the Milwaukee area, southeast of Wisconsin until 1984.

But

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in

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1982, when I was working at that radio station, I was also involved in the community theater.

And

We had rehearsals nights that the Brewers were playing.

So the show was the passion of Dracula.

I was Mina anyway.

That's a completely side thing.

I would run back and forth because there was a bar across the street that had the game on.

And I would run back and forth.

And that was the game that we lost.

And that ended it.

But I mean, it was great.

It was very exciting.

I had gone.

to the Brewers, a neighbor's father, Mike Cena, used to take Liz and I to the Brewers games when I was about nine and 10 at the Old County Stadium.

And so, yes, it was fabulous and very exciting, but I was not in cheese land at that time.

But

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you were behind the mic and doing what you always do, which is entertain and inform people.

And that's great.

And I just think that I mean, what's it like you live in Milwaukee?

Can you tell just going to grocery stores and stuff?

Is there kind of a vibe?

Do you see more people wearing brewery stuff that people seem excited about this living there in the city?

Jane Matenaer

Oh, without a doubt, without a doubt, there are people have.

More I've never seen one.

It's nice because everyone's been getting this stuff for Christmas for such a long time now you can wear all of the gear that you have accumulated over the years and No, absolutely.

There's a lot of excitement a lot of hope if you're like Greg It's it's hope tempered by

trepidation and fear.

And I'm kidding.

No, I

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listened.

I was listening.

I'm I sound loud.

I'm like, Greg, cheer up.

They won the first game.

Jane Matenaer

But there's another game, Todd.

There's more games.

And and and I respect that, too.

You know, it's it's not like Brewer's fans haven't had their hearts broken before.

But it's wonderful to see this team get this far.

and enjoy the experience.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, it really is.

It's something special.

Again, you can hear the the pregame show starting at 730, the first pitch just after eight o'clock on many of our great stations, including RCE and Richland Center, ISS in Oshkosh, CQM in Park Falls and WBZH in Hayward over the air, terrestrial broadcasting, as they say.

So so stay tuned for that.

And hopefully we could talk about another another win tomorrow.

So we shall we shall see.

They're taking the train.

There is a train going from Milwaukee to Chicago for the.

Wednesday game at Wrigley.

How

Jane Matenaer

fun would that be, Jane, to be on that?

And that is such a brilliant idea.

It is.

Because anybody who drives the stretch between Milwaukee and Chicago, that stretch of 94, can be very, very, very slow.

And I think that's really smart.

And I'm sure a lot of people are going to be traveling that way rather than driving, just trying to find a place to

park.

Yeah.

Jane Matenaer

Yeah.

It's going to be, it's going to be crazy.

It's going to be

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fun and hopefully get a win today and wrap it up.

Maybe at Wrigley on Wednesday, we shall see.

We're talking with Jay McNair, co-host of McNair on air every morning from nine until 11 here on the Civic Media Ready Network.

Jay, we were up in, did a couple of shows in, in Seanal last week and we're sitting up there and coming, came across my feed.

And at first I'm like,

Really is this and I had to do a little checking and here and we spent about 40 minutes last week What was it somers on on Wednesday show?

I think yeah Wednesday show on this that the United States Homeland Department Homeland Security and ICE did this raid on an apartment complex in South Chicago starting off with a Black Hawk helicopter and then dragging people some half clothed

without warrants, breaking in doors, zip tying children, separating people by the pigment of their skin, many of whom were American citizens.

And that morning, as I often do, I watch CBS this morning and there was no mention of this and no mention of it on on CNN.

And we spent 40 minutes of it on it.

I know you and Greg now have talked about it other places on this network, but.

What is your view of this, Jane?

As someone who's been in broadcasting for a long time and you know this industry better than anybody that I've known, what do you make of this, of this lack of national attention versus ABC7 in Chicago, which is the story that we used, which was phenomenal reporting?

Jane Matenaer

Well, thank goodness that they still have that media outlet in Chicago where they have local reporters on the ground.

You know, as well as I do, Todd, that major mainstream media has been changing for a very, very long time.

And broadcast television, specifically CBS, ABC, NBC, depend on advertisers.

And the whole advertising model has changed.

And we've seen more local outlets get decimated.

Now, because so many of our large media companies are owned by big corporations with people who do seem to be especially friendly with this administration, that's how you control things.

Controlling information and the information people see, that is crucial and frightening.

And, but I think the media has been letting us down for the last 10 years.

I think we have, we have never talked seriously.

And Greg and I just talked about this last week.

Our current president is not well and does not appear coherent very frequently now in public in speeches.

And I don't hear that talked about at all.

You and I talked about this last week.

There is so much information.

There are so many stories on a daily basis.

The judge's home in South Carolina that was burned to the ground.

Did you see that?

Yeah.

And quite frankly, when I first saw that, I had to double check to make sure that the story was not AI generated.

Right.

Because there is so much.

there is so much to wade through.

But I do think that legacy media has abandoned their responsibilities a long time ago.

And for those that might

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not have heard, Stephen Miller, the Trump administration came out against a judge in Oregon, I believe, who had a temporary restraining order on President Trump calling up National Guard troops from California to go to Oregon, to Portland, and

And Stephen Miller came out and started attacking that judge.

And hours later, this judge on the East Coast House was burned down.

Jane Matenaer

Well, and the judge on the East Coast had ruled against the Trump administration when they were trying to get a hold of voter records.

Yes.

Jane Matenaer

And she was, they were targeted because of that.

Again, we'll see, you know, there's a lot of speculation there.

And that's another hesitation.

Oh, it's very dangerous.

It's very dangerous.

And I also think that the level of rhetoric coming from Stephen Miller, now the Democrats are satanic.

And I mean, the president said in front of a large number of military people over the weekend, they have to get rid of the net on their shoulder, which are Democrats.

Todd Allbaugh

Speaking

Jane Matenaer

to speaking

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to active duty naval Navy Navy sailors.

Yes.

And we know we've never seen that before, Jane, at least in my lifetime, whether I don't care that was George W. Bush or Barack Obama, Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan.

You didn't see our commander chiefs go before active duty troops and bring in overt partisan politics.

It just didn't happen until now.

Jane Matenaer

Well, until now and the the level of.

obfuscation, the level of trying to pretend that this is normal.

I challenge anyone to read a transcript of one of Donald Trump's latest speeches and explain to me what it all means.

Yeah, it's largely a word

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salad.

Jane Matenaer

It is completely word salad completely off the top of his head.

And and the fact that the media has not

Spent more time and trying to make it normal.

It is not normal.

It's not nor none of this is normal

Let's let's go ahead and let's put

Todd Allbaugh

a whole lot of time.

But name Barry Weiss might not mean a lot to a lot of people, but she has just been named essentially editor chief of CBS News.

And and she used to be at the Wall Street Journal for a time in the New York Times.

But she started this this thing three years ago, I think, called the Free Press, an online publication.

And and Paramount Skydance just bought it for 150 million.

Not bad if you can get it, Jane.

That's a good startup.

She is friendly to Trumpism and MAGA, and she has now been put in charge of CBS News.

Thoughts?

Jane Matenaer

I think this is actually part of Project 2025, one of the, or actually, if you want me to get really off the rails here, seven mountains, dominionists.

and the seven mountains to take control over include the media.

And I do believe that Peter Thiel and some of these other larger companies are very much a part of controlling them as much media as humanly possible in order to control the messaging.

Because information is power, knowledge is power.

Yeah, that's what I was taught.

Todd Allbaugh

I think you're right.

And

And when both of us were growing up, whether or not you always agreed or not, I think there are, well, you tell me whether you agree with this or not, that whether it was the New York Times or the Chicago Tribune, CBS, ABC, there was some sense of a certain guardrails that were going to play this down the middle, where we're not going to be overtly bought out by one side or the other.

And those journalistic, journalistic ethics, Jane, just seemed to have just disappeared

Jane Matenaer

nearly.

Oh, without a doubt.

without a doubt.

The attempt to make it both-side-ism, when it is not, has destroyed legacy media.

Jane

Todd Allbaugh

McNair is going to come back and talk a little bit about what's coming up on their show for this week, and also, is she an orchard person?

That burning question will be answered after this on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Kathryn Lake

You're listening to Civic Media.

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Todd Allbaugh

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You understand to get some news, gonna get some laughs, gonna feel better after you listen to Jane and Greg every morning.

Still tune in for that.

They won the only incomparable.

Jane McNair joins us live from her beautiful home in an undisclosed part of Milwaukee.

We're happy to have her here.

By the way, Joseph, watching on YouTube, says, Todd and Jane, thank you for highlighting Weiss and the free press.

They are MAGA dressed up in just asking questions, quote

Jane Matenaer

unquote, drag.

Well, and the other thing that's maddening, quite frankly, are the lack of follow-up questions, because they are, I'm sure in some instances, if you ask a follow-up question, you'll never get another question.

Right.

Jane Matenaer

they'll just cut you off, which, again, is not healthy for democracy.

It's not.

So questions are not bad things.

Todd Allbaugh

And in case you're just joining us, Barry Weiss, who had a career at the Wall Street Journal of New York Times and then started this online publication known as The Free Press about three years ago, CBS or Paramount Skydance just bought it for $150 million and named Barry Weiss, editor-in-chief of CBS News.

That's what we're discussing.

By the way, saying Joseph said, just asking questions, drag.

Have you ever been to a drag show, Jane Metner?

A long time ago.

Really?

Yeah.

I feel like my my gay card may be revoked at any moment because I've never I mean I'm familiar with the genre and I'm fine with but I've never actually been so maybe maybe that's our next road show Jane and Todd do a drag show brunch

That works for me.

Jane

and Todd drag brunch.

That would be a great show.

I

Todd Allbaugh

think that'd be a lot of fun.

That would work.

No drag show brunches, I don't think, but what's coming up this week

Jane Matenaer

on Matt and Air on Air?

We do have a busy week tomorrow.

Pat Crichtlow is going to be joining us.

Also our friend Pam Yankee, the fabulous farm babe.

I love talking to her.

Civic Media's own award-winning journalist.

And we call her the genie of just about everything.

Terry Barr is going to be joining us for a slice of Wisconsin, a great little feature she does about really interesting things around the state.

Later on this week, Darren Van Ruden is going to join us.

He is the president of the Wisconsin Farmers Association.

And I have a feeling we will be talking about tariffs.

I'm sure you will.

Todd Allbaugh

That's a real thing.

I think I heard Pam I talked in the Midwest firemen part this report this morning and all you've talked about it I know Maggie Don's talked about it.

We've talked about our show I believe it's a national mental health awareness for rural and and ag producers here in America really really important so I love that you bring on Derek van Ruden because he brings a part of this state that's so important to all of us really yes and I appreciate you guys bringing him on because he's always a great guest I always learned something when I listen

Jane Matenaer

Well, and that's why what that's what we try to do with our guests quite quite seriously There are so many things.

I don't know Todd.

It's embarrassing which is why we bring on experts who do know and Darren is just like you said, he's a terrific guy We've learned so much about Wisconsin and the industry and how our farmers really get used by all sides Yeah, pretty much

I think I may have said Derrick.

Derrick is the right name.

Derrick Van Ruden.

All

Todd Allbaugh

right, it's 56 minutes past the hour here.

By the way, neither one of us

came in as the top dog in the old, uh, green and gold text to win contest.

I have spoken with director of operations, Luke Mathers, uh, and, uh, found out, and you, you talked about this and I couldn't get word complete agreement.

The whole thing was rigged because they gave Hartman, uh, two, two, uh, words.

And so he beat us both.

Jane Matenaer

And I, I, I

Todd Allbaugh

don't think it was fair.

Jane Matenaer

I, I mean, I, I texted you.

I know.

I texted you at the beginning and I said, I'm going to contest this because I am so delighted with how many people were excited.

Exactly.

And entered the contest.

It was great.

And what Greg and I always learned from it, that's why we went to Butternut.

Right.

And that's how we learned about Butternut.

I had never heard of it before.

I loved that it existed and we took a road trip and went there.

So that's one of the great things about

about the text-to-win contest that we have.

We can

Todd Allbaugh

tell you now, as beneficial Jane teased on her show, apparently the grand prize winner has been contacted.

And we are pleased to announce that Dennis from Minakwa, listing on WCQM, Jane, Greg, and I have been there, is the big grand prize winner of the green and gold contest.

Can we say the words now that the contest is over?

I don't.

That's

Todd Allbaugh

not really.

I can't.

All right.

Don't.

So no.

Jane's giving me a look.

I do not do this while I'm on the air with you.

All right.

He is going to a game in November, a football game between Green Bay.

Yes.

Green Bay and Minnesota.

Now I

can say.

Yeah.

All right.

That's what

Todd Allbaugh

he's

doing.

Todd Allbaugh

Very good.

So congratulations to Dennis from Minakwa, the big grand prize winner in our green and gold text win contest.

Jane and Greg, we're running through other winners today.

We'll do that later as well.

Quick

note, you've already gotten two invitations to drag brunches in Wisconsin.

Really?

Well, how about that,

Todd Allbaugh

Jane?

That'll be our next big thing.

All right, quickly in the time we have left, are you an orchard

Jane Matenaer

person,

Todd Allbaugh

Jane?

Jane Matenaer

Sure, I will orchard.

I love apples.

I love apple pie.

I mean, a well done apple pie is an amazing thing.

Apple crisp is good.

Sure, why not?

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, well, I was just at Oakwood Fruit Farm in Richland County this weekend, one of our fine sponsors here on Civic Media and it was a customer appreciation weekend.

It was packed and I got myself some rave apples.

better known as first kiss, can have a cross between a honey crisp and something else.

So, Zommer's not gonna have those in an hour or two.

Jane Matenaer

And so, do you peel them, or do you just eat it whole, or do you cut it up, or okay?

Just bite that apple, baby.

Get that

Todd Allbaugh

crunch, that snap.

Enjoy.

Now, we enjoy you, Jane McNair, every morning from nine until 11 o'clock.

Greg Bach, McNair on air.

Thank you, my friend.

We'll see you next Monday.

Thank you so much.

Take care, Zommer's.

All

Todd Allbaugh

right, stay tuned to What's Worse, and Todd takes a bite of an apple in hour two on

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