All About The World Dairy Expo with Pam Jahnke (Hour 1)

From the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba Show.

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It is six minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this TGIF Friday edition, October 3rd, 2025.

It is a great day to be a Wisconsinite.

Glad to have you along back at the old World Headquarters at the intersection of state and fair child in downtown Madison.

Zombers, welcome in to a spectacular fall October day.

The

day

before the day before the Milwaukee Brewers take on the dreaded the evil Chicago Cubs in the NLDS.

Oh, it's going to be a a.

An exciting, I'll say exciting, maybe volatile, maybe dangerous day in the

Zomers household tomorrow.

Oh, dangerous?

In the Zomers household?

Well, yeah, because I and my roommate Parker, big Brewer's fans, my roommate Elliot, native Illinoisan, big Cubs fan.

Now, speaking of this, maybe we'll play this later on.

By the way, Mike Clemens, our great sports reporter, is going to be here in hour two.

Maybe we'll do it before.

How would you feel?

if the manager of your team that you cheer for, that you root for, that you love, how would you feel if he was on video saying that his real one love in baseball is the team that you're playing on Saturday?

That his heart, his soul, his baseball soul is with the Milwaukee Brewers.

And

yet he's coaching.

Managing the Chicago Cubs.

How'd you feel?

Being a Brewer's fan, I feel pretty

good.

I wouldn't feel good if I were a Cubs fan.

No, I mean, because in the back of your mind, you're like, is this some big ploy by Bud Stealing just to bring counsel down here to screw us over?

You know is he gonna make the right decision if push comes to shove knowing that Pat Murphy was his college coach and that he brought Murph counsel did back to Milwaukee and gave him a job and the love between these two people if it push come and knowing that Murphys You know it got a lot less time left than counsel does and it push comes to shove and and if Craig counsel has to decide between was best for the cubbies or

or helping out his old coach, Murph, helping out the team that he fell in love with, that he dreamed about being Robin Yeow.

Wouldn't it give you pause?

Wouldn't it give you a little nervousness in the back of your mind?

I think it would.

But afterwards, it gives them an out to either say, see, he said he loves the Brewers and we still won, or to say, see, it's that damn Craig Council.

It's all his

fault.

I don't know.

I'd be a little nervous if I were, if I were the Cubby's fan.

We'll talk more about that.

The Brewers, the Cubs, you can hear it on select stations across the Civic Media, ready to work tomorrow.

Hopefully one of yours has been selected.

The pre-game show, I believe, is at what, 12, 30, one o'clock, something like that.

And then the game kicks off at 1 or 1, 30.

We'll figure that out and let you know.

I hear in a little bit, you can hear it on WRCE and Richland Center, WISS and Oshkosh.

WR, well, I'm not sure if RJ is doing it, but.

WC Key Web and Park Falls and WBZ H in Hayward, Wisconsin.

So those are the places you can hear the game tomorrow.

The Brewers taking on the Cubs.

First two games are here in Milwaukee.

So that's fantastic.

Roger, watching on Facebook says, reminder, it was one year ago today.

The Mets defeated the Brewers five to three in the wild card series, two to one.

It was also Bob Euker's final words in the broadcast booth after the loss, quote, I'm telling you, that one had some sting on it, unquote.

You're right, Roger, sad day, but it's a beautiful day today.

For those watching the stream, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, the like, we've got Euker's jersey.

Well, not his, but my jersey with Euker Bob Euker's name in the back and the number eight.

Now a lot of people say, well, didn't you go where nine?

No, no, no, no.

He actually wore wore eight when he was a professional baseball player.

But when Ryan Braun played for the crew brewers and people wanted to get his he wore number eight.

And so Euker, being the great guy that he was, said, I don't care.

You know, let let, you know, people, of course, let Braun have my number and if people really want my jersey, I mean, just put number nine on it.

Not a big deal.

So that's why you see people that have Euker jerseys, some say eight and some say nine, but the original number for Bob Euker was number eight.

So we got that in the studio, got the old October baseball shirt on today, the Six Springs Farm Joe Thomas Hall of Fame beef hat on, because coming up at the bottom of this hour, farm director, the fabulous farm babe, as she calls herself from the Midwest Farm Report, Pam Yonkey, is going to be here at 2.35.

Cannot wait for that.

Pam is gonna come to us live from the Midwest Dairy Expo, just on the other side of Madison, south side of Madison at the Alliant Energy Center in Dane County, Coliseum.

I live in the neighborhood and boy, the traffic is just crazy.

You could hear people over the intercoms if you go out in the back deck there, but lots going on at the World Dairy Expo.

Also talk about the tariffs and what effect it's having in agriculture, as Orion Samuelson liked to call it, agriculture.

Orion Samuelson.

We'll talk, maybe we'll talk a little Orion Samuelson with Pam as well.

And also the unconfirmed reports that Pam Yankee is under heavy consideration to be the defensive coordinator for the Green Bay Packers.

Will ask her true or not true?

We'll ask

her all of that.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Yes.

And then in hour number two, what's worse today and another, our final, our final edition.

of green and gold text to win contest.

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You can win fabulous cash and prizes.

Today is the final day and also tickets to a green and gold game in Green Bay.

And so we'll tell you, we'll give you the secret keyword in hour number two to text in.

And then as we said before at 335, Mike Clemens, Civic Media Sports Reporter.

Covering the brewers day lots of press availability Clemens is there on the ground and fanfield covering both the brewers and the cub side of things He's gonna be here with a live report for us at 335.

So do not miss that also Madison police are confirming that ice took action Here in the city of Madison.

We talked a lot about it yesterday

in terms of ice raiding an apartment building, an entire apartment building on the south side of Chicago this week, using, amongst other things, a Black Hawk helicopter, bringing kids out of the apartment, separating them from their parents, and putting zip ties on them, separating people, black people from what they alleged supposed to be immigrants.

But as I said yesterday,

not exactly sure how you're telling immigrant by the pigment of their skin.

So that was what was happening in in Chicago yesterday or this week or now yesterday it has come to the city of Madison.

But first want to go to Washington D.C.

where we have an update for you on what's going on on project 2025.

That's right!

It's an update!

to Project 2025.

A lot of people said it wasn't real last year, saying that no, no, no, no, this was all made up.

It wasn't actually going to, don't worry about Donald Trump.

He's just talking.

Project 2025 isn't even a thing.

But now we're finding out as a matter of fact, not only is it a thing,

But of course it's very very harmful as real as well.

I know Jane and Greg on Matt air on air talks about this this morning I want to kind of pick up on that talk a little bit more about it because this is important stuff in terms of Being aware Now we've talked about this before there's a site called project 2025 tracker project 2025 tracker and overall according to this tracking app website

48%, 48, 48%.

There it is, Xamarin's put it up on the screen.

Project 2025.observer.

Project 2025.observer.

And 48% of Project 2025 has been completed already.

So I mean, we're a long ways away from...

Well, it's not really real.

By agency of the items in project 2025 for USAID, the Agency for International Development, they're 100% done.

They had six objectives.

They're done primarily because they eliminated it for all intent and purposes.

On the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, one objective, 100% done for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

One objective, 100% done.

In the White House, 13 objectives, 92% are done.

In the State Department, 10 objectives, 80% are done.

A project, 2025.

Now, where did this come from, people say?

Well, that's why I don't, where did this come from?

Just to keep the record straight.

Let's go back to last year on 60 minutes, Nora O'Donnell trying to be smart and interviewing Kamala Harris, who was running for president at the time, say, well, you know, I mean, Trump has disavowed.

You know this, Ms.

Matt, a vice president.

He's disavowed this.

Here it is.

Here's the cut.

Nora O'Donnell and Kamala Harris from last year.

You know that Donald Trump has disavowed Project 2025.

He says that is not his campaign plan.

As you know, I am a former prosecutor.

His DNA is all over it.

all over it.

His running mate rode forward to the book of the author of Project 2025.

I believe Donald Trump's name appears at least 300 times in Project 2025, and it is a blueprint, a detailed blueprint that is about the danger and the detail of what Donald Trump and his allies plan if he is in the White House again.

Once again,

A smart, intelligent, female leader in the United States forecasted something, told us something, turned out true.

We saw this in 2016, of course, when former Secretary of State and First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton was running for president.

Said, look, Trump is an ally of Putin.

This, this very bad things could happen if this man gets in the White House.

Ah, y'all.

That's just Hillary.

That's and that comes from the right.

Then on the left, you had people say, well, you know, Hillary's just become too mainstream for me.

We have to send her a message.

I'm voting for Jill Stein.

A lot of people, including me, said, uh, time out here.

I'm a former Republican.

This dude is hitting a nerve.

He could actually win.

You're crazy.

It's not going to be that bad.

Well, we all would know it happened in Trump.

1.0.

Then we got to 2024.

It couldn't possibly happen again, and they actually put it in writing, Project 2025.

As you just heard, Vice President Harris warned us about it.

And the right said, that's crazy stuff, that's not gonna happen.

And the left said, but Gaza and Palestine, and I can't vote for the lesser of two evils, and it's not gonna be that bad.

Turns out, Madam Vice President Harris was right.

We'll tell you the latest from Washington on Project 2025.

After this, it's the title of all show on the Civic Media Ready Network.

Welcome back to the Top of All Show on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Twenty-two now, past the hour of two o'clock, the bottom of the hour, just thereafter, Farm Director Midwest Farm Report, Pam Yankee, with a live report, live conversation from the World Dairy Expo here in Madison.

Always an exciting time of year, although they, if you ask the livestock, the animals, and maybe some of the humans as well, cooler weather would have been nicer, but it's going to cool down a little bit this weekend here.

Talking about project 2025.

And the fact that Kamala Harris, former vice president Kamala Harris had warned the American voting public that this was all in print.

We talked about it.

I know Jane McNair talked about it.

I know Maggie Dawn talked about it.

Other people packed quite a little.

Other people on this network talked about it.

And some people said, yeah, and a lot of people said, no, this is just.

It's not really going to be that bad.

I was talking before the break that on the right, my folks said, you're just making this office not really real because Trump's disavowed it.

And on the left, people didn't want to know there were people in the far left who said, particularly young people, college campus people who were like, no, I can't.

I literally heard this as I went down one of the protests here on campus at UW Madison.

that they could not vote for Kamala Harris over Donald Trump because it was quote-unquote the lesser of two evils.

And that they were just gonna vote for somebody else or stay home.

And that has proven in places like Wisconsin, in Dearborn, Michigan, in Pennsylvania, where democratic turnout in areas that had large populations that were supporting Gaza and Palestine in that last year just didn't vote.

So on YouTube John says the Gaza Palestinian claim is unfounded and not proven via data.

What are you talking about?

Well, that's it That if you had I mean part part I'm not saying the entire but part of the reason that Donald Trump got a second term is that people have Not turned out Democrats did not turn out in the same numbers that they did in 2020 and in fact Republicans made gains

Donald Trump made gains, particularly here in Wisconsin.

Let's play a clip that's from CNN doing great work yesterday.

This is a little montage of what Donald Trump said a year ago on the campaign trail.

As he was campaigning for his second term, this is what Trump had to say about his association and knowledge of Project 2025.

Trump he said this morning that he said I've been meeting today with Russ vote of project 2025 fame of course that was the project that Democrats demonize went after hard in the campaign saying look at this and they've got a campaign very hard on it and then Donald Trump when he was running for the second term said well this project 25 thing I don't really know much about it

some on the right severe right

came up with this Project 25, and I don't even know.

They are extreme.

I mean, they're seriously extreme.

But I don't know anything about it.

I don't want to know anything about it.

I have nothing to do with Project 2025.

That's out there.

I haven't read it.

I don't want to read it purposely.

I'm not going to read it.

Project 2025, I've said a hundred times.

I know nothing about it.

I had nothing to do.

That works.

That was Donald Trump last year on the campaign trail courtesy of CNN.

Now today from the Associated Press, President Donald Trump is openly embracing the conservative blueprint he desperately tried to distance himself from during the 2024 campaign as one of his architects works to use the government shutdown to accelerate his goals of slashing the size of the federal workforce and punishing democratic states.

In his post on truth social yesterday morning, Trump announced he would be meeting with his budget chief, quote, Russ vote.

He a project 2025 fame to determine which of the many Democrat agencies, most of which are a political scam, he recommends to be cut and whether or not those cuts will be temporary or permanent on quote.

Again, that is from Trump on his truth social site.

The comments Represented a dramatic about face for Trump who spent much of last year denouncing project 2025 the heritage foundations Massive proposed overhaul the federal government which was drafted by many of his longtime allies and current and former administration officials Both of Trump's Democratic rivals Joe Biden and Kamala Harris made the far-right wish list a centerpiece of their campaigns

and a gigantic replica of the book featured prominently on stage at the Democratic National Convention.

And now we have Russ vote basically for all intent.

And I don't want to say running the government, but you had Republican leaders yesterday in Congress saying, well, look, we can't, we can't really control this.

And they're using the government shutdown that Trump and the Republicans are largely responsible for.

Do you have the opportunity now to extend executive powers of Trump?

To not just lay people off in federal government, but give them pink slips And many on the Democratic side are saying well, you know, it's like last time it'll only be temporary the courts will will say you have to be rehired We'll put yourself in a place of a federal worker if you are fired Are you gonna hang around and just knit?

for three or four months while it goes to the courts and then say, okay, I guess I'll go back to my job now.

Folks have real things, bills they have to pay.

And this is extraordinarily dangerous.

And we see now that Kamala Harris, Joe Biden and others were right.

It's why I was so passionate on this show last year, trying to bring this out.

And say this was gonna happen if this guy gets the second term And here we are Gonna come back turn a page farm news is next to the Midwest farm report and then director Pam Yankee will be here live with this joining us from the

World Dairy Expo here in Madison, Wisconsin.

Don't go anywhere.

Farm Talk is next, and maybe some Packers as well.

It's the Todd Allball Show for a Friday on the Civic Media.

Ready and Upworked.

I'm a fireball

And keep behind a microphone.

You play music like that.

That is off the Spotify playlist of our next guest.

She is the iconic.

I just heard celebrating her 35th year at World Dairy Expo.

And of course, the director of the Midwest Farm Report, which you can hear every day at the bottom of each hour on this program.

The one, the only, the self-proclaimed fabulous farm babe, Pam Yankee, joins us live.

Pam, how are you?

I'm already tired and it's not self-proclaimed.

That was a title given to me when I first came to Madison by the Wisconsin Farm Bureau Federation.

At that time there was a sports announcer named the Sports Babe.

She was one of the first nationally syndicated female sports broadcasters.

And she was in the habit of using drops, which are so common in radio, especially then.

And she also got some of the hottest sports stars to come on the radio before it was really cool.

So they called her the sports babe.

And then the Farm Bureau started taking me around.

At that time, you had to go out and meet your audience, literally, because there was no such thing as cell phones or laptop.

or social media.

And when they'd introduce me in meetings, they'd introduce us as our farm babe.

And then it turned into fabulous farm babe.

So now I can't get away from it.

It's my truck.

It's my website.

It's social media.

Now I can't get away from

it.

things change and I grew up in a different era, but now if I call a female person a babe, you get emails, why are

you doing that?

And it's like, look, I didn't give her the, I'm not

saying it.

She is the one that's using it.

I'm not putting this

on her.

No, it's funny.

And in my audience, we have a slightly different look at things like that.

Like I just came from World Dairy Expo and people don't know my name, but they know I'm the fabulous farm babe.

I, I, I have a slightly different litmus test when it comes to using the phrase.

I grew up in an era where

nicknames like that is no big deal, but you know, things, things move on.

Yeah.

Well, and I'm in Madison and you'd think 35 years in Madison, you'd think I would pick up a sensitivity to some of that.

I'm just still a redneck farm kids from

North.

part of why I love you because I grew up in Richland Center in Southwest Wisconsin and so I think we have some of the same DNA in terms of enjoying rural Wisconsin and just enjoying life.

Let's talk a little bit about the big do-ins here speaking of all my grandparents used to talk.

This week wrapping up the the World Dairy Expo.

I live about four blocks away and what's really cool for me is sitting out on my back deck and at night or the afternoons hearing over the loudspeakers

you know, some of the, you know, announcements at the World Dairy Expo.

And I'm like, wow, that sounds, you know, I can see the top of the Coliseum from my balcony.

Oh man.

Yeah.

You are definitely within earshot, especially this week.

In fact, one of the challenges that I have broadcasting out at World Dairy Expo or doing my television segments is I have to time it so that they're actually, they actually have cows in the ring and that they're judging.

Otherwise, when the class gets done, they start announcing.

Top 10 winners of the way from the loud speakers as best you can because that show will go until at least four o'clock, probably four, four, 30 this afternoon.

That's when they'll name the Supreme Champion of World Dairy Expo.

When I was out there, I was just there a minute ago.

And now everybody's starting to pivot both the exhibitors as well as the people that have cattle are starting to get in their mind frame how they want to get these animals home.

You know, Todd, you and I are well aware of the weather.

Madison, Dane County had been enjoying.

It's wonderful, but it's hot for a cow.

It's hot for a cow that's under some stress.

You know, she's in a different place.

She's being handled by a lot of different people to go into the ring.

And now for some of these guys, I talked to a buddy of mine.

His name is Steve Maddox.

He's from Ruin Bay and yeah, and I'm gonna in California and seven cows that he is going to put on the truck.

Just as easy as he can.

He will be on the belt.

Probably about 5.30 this afternoon.

Goal is to try to draw.

I think Pam, we're kind of losing.

Break it up just a little bit.

I'm not sure if it's on our end or on your end.

But it looks like maybe you're back now.

You're

going to

pros up for a sec.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

OK.

OK.

Last

thing we heard was like California.

Yeah.

he's got seven cows that he is going to put on the truck and be on the belt line with other traffickers.

And his goal is to try to make sure that he gets those cows through Las Vegas by tomorrow morning.

He said if he can't get those cows through Las Vegas tomorrow morning, he may alter the route and go north into the Rockies because of these temperatures.

The cows have all the water they want.

They have, the trailer is rigged up so he can melt them on the trailer.

But the temperatures, if this heat stays, shall we say, unseasonably warm, then he may have to deviate and make sure those cows are a little bit more comfortable farther north.

We're talking to Pam Yankee, director of the Midwest Farm Report, which you can hear every afternoon and really all day long across the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pam Yankee here is with us live.

Pam, tell folks that might not be or explain them if you could please.

Those that might not be as aware of their count while cows coming to Madison was the big deal.

But I mean, this is a huge deal.

It's really the Emmy or the Academy Awards for the World Dead.

It's an international event.

It's economic.

Explain what this actually is and what it means to Wisconsin to have it here.

Absolutely.

So this show, I just was looking at one of the plaques today in 2016, 2016.

So that's what nine years ago.

They celebrated the 50th anniversary of World Dairy Expo.

The show started here, has grown here, has remained here, and has long-term agreement to stay here.

That's part of the reason why we saw the economic infusion for both the Pavilion I, Pavilion II, the New Holland Center, even expansions with the Expo Hall was Keep World Dairy Expo here.

uses all 164 acres of the Alliant Energy Center grounds.

It is the number one with a bullet economic driver for that facility and for a lot of Dane County.

You are talking about, you know, they'll give us numbers as far as general attendance and things like that, probably this afternoon, maybe tomorrow or Monday, but somewhere in the neighborhood of 60,000 guests that have been through Madison.

And when I talked with one of the dairy guys from upstate New York, Middleboro, New York,

He brought 14 cows from Middleboro, New York, which is up by the Finger Lakes.

And he spent, he said last year for the cows and the 10 to 17 people that have to take care of those cows for 12 days, the money he spent, $90,000.

That was just for the opportunity to be a part of the show.

His hotel room bill,

was $15,000.

Now that's Dane County money.

They weren't going any farther than that.

And so, you know, that gives you a sense of the commitment these people make to wanting to be a part of the show.

And I said to him, what's your payback, Jason?

And he said, well, the payback is he remembered, I can't remember the year now.

I want to say like, 10 years ago, one of his young heifers did very well in her class.

Now remember, they had 36

3,600 animals entered to be a part of World Dairy Expo this year probably ended up with probably I want to say around 2,500 that actually showed.

His one heifer did very well in one class of all those animals and the genetic interest and sales that that one animal drew because she placed so well at World Dairy Expo helped to pay his travel bill and all the other investments that he'd made.

So it's kind of like

I don't want to say cocaine.

That would be not a very good connotation, but it's kind of like that.

You know, you're addicted to salty, salty sweet or you're you like you're you're gambling or whatever.

Once you get a little taste of success, you get a little bit of the vague, then you really want to keep keep playing.

You want to come back and do it again and do it again.

Plus, it's a lot of community.

You know, if like I said, I've been going to the show.

35 years professionally since I came to Madison as a farm broadcaster, but I grew up in Derry.

I judged FFA or when I was in FFA, I judged Derry cattle in the center ring.

That was part of our competitive events.

So I've known about this show my entire life, but it's the people.

You know, you come back year after year and you stall up, you know, your cows are next to people that you grew up with, your kids grew up with.

It's generational.

then you talk to the staff.

You know, Lisa Benke, who's the media director for World Dairy Expo, was a former Alice in Dairyland.

Her and I have been on all kinds of agriculture committees, we're the same age.

I mean, it's just, it's like a family reunion.

And I know there's a lot of people that come to the show.

Yeah, the cows, obviously.

but it's really to touch base and stay connected with those people that you otherwise only get a chance to see once a year.

It's hard to help people not connected with the synergy of agriculture.

You know, we are a small family in many ways.

It's hard for people that have never experienced that to understand, but for those of us that have had a taste.

We will rabidly fight back to get there again next year.

One

of our viewers on YouTube right now, Cornell tuning in, saying simply in all caps, God bless the dairy farmers.

Thanks, Cornell.

I appreciate that.

Isn't that the truth?

We're talking with Pam Yankee, director of the Midwest Farm Report, about the world dairy expo amongst other things.

And Pam, my personal grandparents were dairy farmers, Holstein.

I think they never milked more than 40 head, probably had another 12 to 15 heifers on the farm.

Every time my

dad

didn't want to do it, I was too young to take over at that time.

And so they sold out in 1983, I think or so.

Talked a couple of minutes about just because I think a lot of people watch media and they say, oh, what's going on with this quote unquote corporate farming?

I hate that word because.

You know, my grandparents never

had a

vacation.

They were there seven days a week, 365 days a year.

And unless you form a quote unquote corporation with brothers, sisters, siblings, neighbors, you know, you just can't do it anymore.

And it's America's dairy land, but we're seeing fewer and fewer farms, but still kind of keeping up when it comes to milk production.

Right.

Yeah.

Well, in my case, keep, keep railing against that.

corporate farm mantra because that is completely incorrect in Wisconsin.

Remember 99% of our farms in Wisconsin are still family owned and operated, but to your point, some of these farms are really successful because sons and daughters are coming back.

Well, you know what?

It was one thing when they were high schoolers living under your roof.

Now they've got a family of their own.

And to make sure that they stay part of the farming operation, you've got to grow so that they can pay their bills and stay with you.

So when you drive past a farm, do not make any decisions or judgment from the windshield.

You don't know a thing about that farm.

You just see a big barn.

It doesn't, you know, big farm equipment.

That very well could be a father, mother, son, daughter-in-law.

daughter, son-in-law, grandkids, brothers.

I mean, there are all kinds of arrangements that are keeping our Wisconsin farms going.

And to your point, it really irritates me when people say, oh, we're losing farms in Wisconsin.

No, stop.

That drives me nuts.

We're not losing farms in Wisconsin.

What happens is people do, as you said, decide to retire out of the business of farming.

Could be milk cows, could be something.

But those cows that they melt go to the neighbor's farm.

because that boy went to high school with my kids.

The land, that guy is going to cash rent to keep me and Ma on the farm and comfortable.

I may drive tractor for him.

Maybe they're going to use my barn for heifers.

Maybe they're going to, maybe I want to run some beef, but that phrase, we're losing farms in Wisconsin.

We are not losing farms.

People are doing just what all of us do.

You work hard, then you want to retire.

You want to have a little bit slower pace life or you want something, you want to do something different.

Those cows go to a neighbor.

They generally all stay in Wisconsin.

The land continues to be farmed so long as, you know, there's not something else out there that caters to the location or what have you.

And a lot of those people that retired, I just saw a World Deer Expo.

Now they're volunteers.

Now they're helping in the show ring because you can't give it up.

You just can't give it up.

No,

you can't give up.

Listen to Pam Yankee every morning across civic media.

And in the afternoon as well, we're going to come back, talk more with Pam Yankee and answer the question.

Where did she find Ben Jarbo?

And is he the long lost son of Orion Samuelson?

That and more on the other side is the all ball show on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Every morning and all day long across the Civic Media Network, Midwest Farm Report and Pam Yonkey, Fabulous Farm Babe.

Find her at midwestfarmreport.com and also Fabulous Farm Babe on all the socials.

She joins us live and also a Packer fan.

All right, Pam lost to get to you and a lot of time to go.

So let's get to it quickly here.

Number one, are the rumors true after two losses?

By our beloved Green Bay Packers, the rumors are that you are being recruited to be the new defensive coordinator, true or not true.

There are many people that know me and have worked with me that would not be surprised to know I was a candidate.

Right now I'm currently fully engaged in the Midwest Farm Report and very happy to simply act as a coach from my backyard at Pambo in Green Bay.

And that's real.

You have a place called PAMBO in Green Bay.

That's real.

Yeah, I know it is.

That's real.

Uh, yeah, I, I don't, I, I'm not, I'm not freaking out too much yet, but boy, I mean, just, it's kind of like the Badgers.

I don't mind a loss once in a while, but how it gets there.

You know what I mean?

But.

and not to swallow up time, but see, I'm not a badger.

I live in Wisconsin.

I appreciate the university in that, but I didn't go to school in Madison.

I went to school at River Falls.

The Packers are a part of my DNA.

And so help me, if they're going to continue to play games at 7 20 in the evening, for me, who has to be rolling, my alarm goes off at two, you have got to cut it out because I have strained eyes from watching.

trying to sleep with one and watch the game with the other until 10.05.

And come on, then we got to go to overtime.

And then you're going to give me a stroke by making it final.

I'm just like, this is what's going on out there

is

one of my farm broadcasters said.

And then at the end of it, it's like kissing your sister a 40 40 time.

What's up with that?

I know.

All right.

Quickly, it is a national, is it national or state pork producers month in October?

Gotta give a shout out to our pork.

October is national.

National pork producers month.

Yeah,

national pork.

Yeah, and I can tell you why.

I can tell you why we picked October.

I don't want to slow your roll, but I am a plethora of that kind of knowledge,

Todd.

I know you are.

That's why I asked.

So, but shout out to have a lot of great pork producers, as they say, the other white meat.

And I think it's a great reminder to, you know, we play all of.

for the state.

I got my Joe Thomas Six Springs Hall of Fame beef hat on right now, whether it's pork, whether it's beef, prices are going up.

But boy, howdy.

I mean, I just went together with a couple of friends of mine, and we bought a half a steer, and Hoseley Meats down in New Glarus.

Go to your local locker.

Go to your local producer.

You're always going to be a winner that way.

Yeah, and I'll be happy to hook you up I mean you want to really live by local then get your arms around a quarter of a beef half a beef I bought a steer at the Dane County Fair that we have processed That's that's the way farm kids are used to buying things But I'm happy to share that knowledge and insight with anybody that's interested.

No, absolutely All right, the quick question here because I love what he came on board I'm like, where did this guy come from because if you're of a certain age the name Orion Samuelson the Southwest Wisconsin guy who became the really the Paul Hart

of Ag Broadcasting.

And I hear a little bit of Orion Samuelson and Ben Jarbo.

I love Agri.

Listen to her read a phone book.

Where did you find this guy?

Yeah, the kid's from a farm down by Paxon, Illinois, central Illinois.

Went to school for Agri business.

He's been with us.

He'll be coming up on two years in 2026.

And the funny part was he is so incredibly polite for the first

four weeks that he worked for us for me he oh everything was ma'am ma'am ma'am and I said to him you know my name is Pam right oh he said I I would never be so I would never be so forward I said you know what sweetie I appreciate that my name is Pam my mother is ma'am stop it don't be doing it anymore but

he

is a big tall tall drink of water with a blaze of red hair and he used to pitch

He was a pitcher in college, so it's it's been a hoot and he has got a certain gate.

I don't know if it's the South, but like you said, you could listen to him talk because he's got a certain cadence that is far different than Yatter Hay, Northeast Wisconsin.

Well, as you well know, I think a good broadcaster is, you know, look at, you know, some of the great sports broadcasters they were from the South or had a little bit different.

It sets you apart and it makes you want to listen to him.

Yes.

Yeah,

that's

exactly it and he's got he's ended my latest edition is from Iowa State and she's got she's got just a little different not Accent necessarily, but yeah, we want to keep you we want to keep you

if you get tired of hearing the old farm babe ad nauseam, I'll give you a couple different varieties of voices that

you can lean in on.

Look, we'll never get tired of you, Pam.

Our time is almost up, just a couple of minutes left here.

I'm not gonna play the cut, but I just wanna ask you directly.

Lots of news on tariffs right now, and not to take it into partisan terms, but I think a lot of people are confused.

Why is there a couple of billion dollars in bailout, or it was 20 billion, I think in bailout money, being proposed right now?

I think the question is, if you didn't wanna go to St.

Paul,

Why do you get on the train?

Why are we talking about bailouts?

Why do they just not do the tariffs?

Oh, he's right now, the 20 billion, or whatever number they come up with, they still haven't decided.

But that is designed to basically be in the face of China and their lack of purchasing US soybeans.

They're buying it from everybody else, but they have not bought a bushel from us.

And basically my commodity brokers say they're going to have to buy from us.

But in the meantime, it's how low are we going to get that price?

So again, they haven't decided on a final number, but most of the money that will be announced is going to be to offset just soybeans, just China.

That's one.

Otherwise, there's a lot of places in the world that have

seen more robust business with US agriculture.

We're at our cheese exports in Wisconsin are 30% higher than they were a year ago.

We're having a record year and that cheese is going all over the place.

Not and no tariffs are ever being discussed in that arena.

So that one commodity is what's driving that commodity or that conversation.

One commodity, one country.

That's where it's all focused right now.

Well, 35, 40 seconds left, Pam Yonkey.

What have I not asked you?

You want to make sure people know about Wisconsin agriculture?

Well, just appreciate it.

Be careful when you look at what?

No, that takes too long.

When you are driving around Wisconsin, whether it's rural or suburban, please be careful around that big farm equipment and try to keep, you know, if you're going to wave, let's use all five fingers around that farm equipment because those people are just trying to get their job done.

They just have to use this weather and try to get the job done.

And when they're done, they'll get out of your way.

They don't want to be in your way any more than you want them there.

So please, let's use all five fingers and be safer on that big equipment.

Pam Yankee, thank you very much.

We'll find her at Midwest Farm Report.

Fabulous Farm, but farm babe.

From the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba Show.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.

Cross Wisconsin on the Civic Media Radio Network.

and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app.

Good afternoon, everybody.

Todd Alba, along with Mr. Aaron Zummers on the board.

It is six minutes past the hour of three o'clock.

Welcome to hour number two of the big broadcasts on this TGIF Friday, October 3rd, 2025, here in downtown Madison.

It's a great day.

They be Wisconsinites, a beautiful fall day.

Leaves turning colors.

Perfect.

Well, it's a little warm.

I know but pretty much for me perfect cold.

No got a temperature No humidity got our October baseball Brewer t-shirt on yoke's jersey hanging up beside me Zomers, I'm in a great mood and after you spend a half an hour talking to Pam Yankee on the Midwest farm report How could he be any in anything but

honestly if

Yeah, I was gonna say if you're asleep, maybe not but even then I feel like you'd wake up with a smile on your face,

right?

No, it's fantastic.

She's great.

I love everything about her.

She's such a good natured person I've had the honor to to know her over the years working in politics because she's always covering agriculture events and She's nothing but gracious what you hear and see on the air is exactly the way that she is When you hang out with her or meet her in real life that I've set around

you know, drinking and watching packer games at Pam.

But I've been around her when she's interviewing people, talking to people when she's not, you know, quote, unquote, on the air.

And she's exactly like that.

And that's why one of the many reasons I have so much admiration for her, I think she's not think I know she's been a mentor from afar in terms of you look at somebody like Pam Yonkey and you're like, that's the way you do it.

That's the way you treat people.

That's the way you're you should be a good broadcaster to be yourself be authentic and and just have fun and and no one is more of a professional broadcasting than Pam Yankee So thank you very much Pam.

We appreciate you being on we'll have her back soon coming up at the bottom of this hour another great Broadcasting professional.

We're blessed today to have two of them not just Pam but also

Mike Clemens, our great sports reporter here at Civic Media is live in Milwaukee at Amfam Field.

Gonna talk Brewer's baseball at the bottom of the hour, so stay tuned for that.

We have our green and gold text-to-win contest coming up, trying to sneak in on what's worse as well, but first of all, a couple of quick hits for you in terms of news.

One serious from Channel3000.com.

I know on some of our stations talked about this locally.

But I think it's especially in light of yesterday's time we spent on Department of Homeland Security and ICE bringing a Black Hawk helicopter in amongst other armament and people to descend upon an apartment building on the south side of Chicago, starting to hit closer to home, not that dramatically.

But still worth note from Channel 3W ISC here in Madison Madison police confirmed the presence of ICE in Madison yesterday Madison police chief John Pedersen released a statement shortly after noon today Saying that the department was made aware of the actions after ICE had already left the community

Central Hispano of Dane County posted on Facebook that seven people were detained in a targeted enforcement operation on Madison's northeast side.

The local nonprofit reported that the arrest took place at a single residence yesterday morning that ICE had targeted.

Despite ongoing rumors of ICE activity in Madison, yesterday's incident is the first confirmed presence of ICE in Wisconsin's capital.

from central hispano they said quote central and voces de la frontera are gathered gathering verified information and providing support to impacted families unquote that from central hispanol's uh press release put out today so there you have it confirmation by the madison police department that ice is in madison and has taken at least their first confirmed action here in the city of madison

So be aware.

As we said yesterday, if you think some of these things are happening in larger cities, are not going to visit Wisconsin, you're a little naive.

So be aware.

On the lighter side, from Wisconsin Rapids Tribune, no pennies, no problem.

Here we go.

Every time it rains, it rains.

Penny's from heaven.

What do you think about the penny?

We've talked about the penny before this show.

But if you haven't got a penny, no problem.

QuickTrip is going to be rounding down its prices to accommodate for the end of penny production.

Well, the cross-base company announced yesterday it will be rounding down at QuickTrip all cash, cash.

That's the key.

All cash.

purchases to the nearest five cents.

Quote, as stores run out of pennies by location, and since the government has not provided guidance on how to proceed, all cash purchases at QuickTrip and QuickStar locations will be rounded down to the nearest five cents, ensuring a guest-friendly approach.

According to the company's release, they said QuickTrip will continue this approach.

until a permanent legislative solution has been enacted.

So there you go.

But be aware that digital and card-based purchases will remain unaffected and will continue to be processed at the exact amount listed.

But cash transactions will be automatically rounded down.

As Miko Madre says, cash is king.

So there you go.

If you're using cash a quick trip, you're going to save five cents.

Potentially or for up to four up to four up to four.

Hey every every sent out.

It does it does every cent counts as a news You can use here on a Friday as you get ready for your weekend.

It is now 13 minutes past the hour of three o'clock Time once again to play the final civic media green and gold text to win

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I'm going to give you a word to text in on the civic media app today's word the final word for the contest is team This is what this contest has done to me.

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Text the word team right now on the Civic Media app.

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It's because I under under threat of legal action from people on the 12th floor I I couldn't mess this up and so my girl was just pre-recorded So they asked me to play it straight, which is hard for me to do

You know, but you gotta do your best.

I did my best.

So there you go.

The word, our final word team, T. E. A. M is a Mary team.

More words on Maggie Dawn show after our show.

And then Pete Schwab is show as well from six until eight.

They'll have a new word on Nightlight and Maggie Dawn.

So

there you go.

Pete will have the true last word of the

content.

Yes.

Pete will have the he'll have the final word as they say.

All right, lots to get to you.

Let's do this one quickly because I want to make sure we get this in.

If you are somebody that you love is dealing with Alzheimer's, if you've been associated with it, dementia issues like our family has, do me a favor.

Go to the WMDX, our flagship station here at Civic Media in Madison.

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It should be the first image showing when you go to wmdxradio.com.

Click on that on join us in giving on that image.

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And that'll take you to our page for the Alzheimer's.org of Walk coming up this weekend on Sunday in Madison at Warner Park starting at 10 a.m.

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WMDXradio.com, find the purple, join us in giving image on the carousel, click and sponsor our walk for Alzheimer's.

Several of us here at Civic Media have been touched, our families, by Alzheimer's and dementia.

I, unfortunately, am out of town in Alzheimer's this weekend, but I know you're gonna be representing the show and you're participating on Sunday.

I'll be there.

Dom is gonna be there producer of the John and Gordy

program Dom Dominic Lee the Italian stallion

good Gordy of the aforementioned John and Gordy program

He's an overrace horse, but you know, but his prime it is prime, you know,

but several other people will be there though and if you want to join You can go to that same link It'll give you the information of where you can meet where you can sign up to join us and walk But that is Sunday morning the walk starts at 10

if you show

up early you can register and come with us

They're really good cards.

And if you can't make it out there to Madison, you still want to help us out, not just help us out, but really help out the Alzheimer's organization.

You can go to WMDxRadio.com and click on the purple image there and then join us in giving.

So do that.

Give what you can, buck five bucks, 10, 100, whatever you can afford.

It all adds up to help the fight against Alzheimer's disease.

Yeah, I mean, dominically.

And he's fresh out of college in Italian Stallion.

He's Italian.

He's from Chicago.

Italian Stallion.

Gordy and I, we're kind of like the, uh, the, uh, the glue horse, the glue factory horses.

We've been around for a while.

I put myself in the same category.

You understand?

All right.

You have time for the thing and we got to come back.

We got time for the thing.

Let's open it up.

Let's open it up once again for what's worse.

Let's

go.

Time went again for what's worse.

No prize money involved, nothing to give away, unlike the other thing.

This is just your opportunity to have your voice heard.

All right, here we go.

This is for Pat Krightlow.

Join Pat Krightlow every morning from six until nine on Select Stations of Civic Media.

I hope one of yours has been selected.

This is for Krightlow because today's category, what's worse?

Smooth Jazz or Yacht Rock.

Yacht Rock.

What's worse?

Smooth jazz or yacht rock 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Got some

smooth jazz from Kenny G The moment

he's dialed up Kenny G to take us out 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 what's worse smooth jazz or Yacht rock back after this of the civic media ready network

you

out on a call like with soda today.

Keep it going.

With a, uh, the best non bar, brandy old fashioned suite in Wisconsin in his hand, taking in the fall spirit, the team spirit, the one, the only pack right low.

This, this is what Pat listens to when he's on the pontoon boat and like with soda.

And I think it's fantastic.

Oh, of course.

This has got rock.

Yeah, this is, uh, Christopher Cross sailing, which is your sister's favorite, Christopher

Cross.

That's G.S.

head on, uh, so the once the worst category today, smooth jazz or yacht rock.

Heather is saying, Kenny G is way worse.

I love yacht rock.

Give me Christopher Cross all day long.

Well, there we did.

We did it.

Uh, one of the, uh, Joseph watching on YouTube says yacht rock.

Great comfort fun both as a solo listen as a group concert experience smooth jazz is Oral

with oral anesthesia or like That's how he's that's our oral like ear audio related.

Yeah, it's different not oral oral oral a you are a

It's a good thing it's Friday Joseph's yeah, Rhian Rock favorite

Toto's Africa.

I didn't know that was that considered yacht rock sure is

on Hold on.

Let me pull up yacht or not.

All

right double check, but I'm pretty sure

while you're doing that.

I'm gonna give away.

I can't give away.

I'm gonna give folks our Green and gold multi-state text to win word of the hour the word is team TEAM

Text it right now for the chance to win Fabulous Cash and Prizes.

Kurt, listening on WMTX in Madison, says, Todd, interesting method in spelling, because I spelled the word earlier.

I said, T is in Todd, E is in Edward, A is in Apple.

And Kurt writes, not Andrew, Andy.

And then you say, M is a Mary.

I don't know why.

I don't know.

I'm being criticized about words I associate with letters.

I don't know, Kurt.

It just.

But by get you bring up an interesting point.

Maybe I don't know enough ands and Andrews and I don't know.

The word is team.

T. T. E. A. M.

quick update on the Yacht Rock status of Africa by Toto.

So Yacht or nyacht.com is a website that categorizes a bunch of songs that could be considered Yacht Rock onto how purely they fit the genre and or otherwise.

Number one, like a hundred percent, the only one that scores a hundred percent Yacht ski is What A Fool Believes by the Dewey Brothers.

But, Toto.

Africa has a 93.

So there

you go.

Very high.

What's worse smooth jazz or Yacht Rock 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2.

Our old friend Rob wheat texting in listening to W R C E and Richland Center down the beautiful city of Monroe, Wisconsin.

Rob says they're the same.

Really?

They're the same.

Oh later he says but smooth jazz.

If I got to pick one is worse.

All right, very good.

What else?

Edward.

Oh, I guess I was the wrong the wrong text there.

What else we have for for text here?

What's a Len in Madison listening on WMDX?

What's worse is smooth rot, rock and yacht jazz.

Our very own Catherine Lake of the aforementioned John and Gordy show here at the MDX says, I wonder if Kenny G. Yacht rock or smooth jazz.

Oh, I wonder whether I'm not sure what she's saying.

It's she's asking is Kenny G Which one is he and he is

jazz

the graphic we have has smooth jazz with a picture of Kenny G and Yacht Rock with a picture of Christopher Cross.

All right, very good

What else yeah Kamin Appleton Baker Street is jazz.

No, I'm not sure about that one Brett in brown deer says just name Yacht Rock makes me want a hurl

Matt, one of our great UPS drivers in Richland Center.

Smooth jazz is good, but it's way worse compared to Yacht Rock.

Don't let Steely Dan hear you call it Yacht Rock, though.

Donald Fagan will yell the F word at you.

Really?

Wow, it's a very strong opinions here.

Steely Dan

is a very particular band.

All right, let's go quickly into the phone line.

Our old friend Gordy Kopke down there at Kopke is Greenhouse, one of our great sponsors at Civic Media.

Check him out for all your fall pumpkin and plant needs in the town of Dunne, outside the city of Oregon here in Dane County.

Gordy, smooth jazz or yacht rock, what's worse?

Well, music is subject to frame of mind.

And there are sometimes when one is preferred over the other, it's really hard to choose because they're both easy listening in just a state of mind.

But I

wanted to

thank you for that wonderful interview with Pam.

I was out on my tractor cutting my fifth cutting of hay.

I never even get four cuttings.

But this year, because of all the rain and all the heat, and now here we're getting August weather in October.

So I thought, let me get my hay mower and see what's out there.

So that's what I was doing while you were on the phone with Pam.

Well, that's really cool.

Thanks, Gordy.

I appreciate you.

Thanks for calling in.

Thanks for being one of our great sponsors.

Gordy Kopke down there in the town of Dunn.

What's worse smooth jazz or yacht rock 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 brand new caller on MDX that don't didn't leave their name But they say smooth jazz is the worst.

All right, very good.

Uh, Edward Edward calling in or texting in

I guess they're talking about me says this person is pathetic.

Please let a better person right in the day for the next three years

Tell us how you really think Edward I am pretty sure that that was actually directed at the president.

I'm not sure

I'm looking at the other text.

We'll clarify

that later.

I don't really care But I mean, you know a lot of people think I'm pathetic, but that's fine.

I'm having a great day

Matt Middleton says smooth jazz is worse as it's more common and annoying.

Zomers, what's worse?

I got to say smooth jazz.

Not much time to elaborate,

but I like it.

I would

say smooth jazz as well is

worse.

All right.

Stay tuned.

What's better is our great sports reporter.

Mike Clements talking Brewers, Packers, Badgers and more.

Don't go anywhere.

Farm news is next on the Civic Media.

Ready?

Network.

We've had the best team in baseball this year.

They feel like they have a chance to play in the World Series with this team.

So they're rested.

So it's going to be a great atmosphere.

It's Cubs Brewers.

That's going to be as good as it gets.

It's always a great atmosphere when the two teams play each other.

We'll try to get as many Cubs fans in there as we can.

They won't like that.

But it's going to be a fun atmosphere.

I know that.

That's Craig Council of the Cubs.

And you better believe it, Council.

The Brewers do have the best team in baseball.

It's going to be a fantastic weekend.

Brewers are going to take it to them.

I'm excited.

Got the October baseball.

Sure not.

Got the Eukary Jersey hanging up here in the studio.

Great work.

Zommer is on the board.

Blister and the Sun featured in that great film by our friends, John Hamish and Kelly Call.

Just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.

Check it out if you haven't seen it already.

Apple TV, Amazon Prime.

What else is on Tubi now?

It's on Tubi.

I think it's still on the Roku channel.

Roku

channel and Tubi are free.

Yeah, absolutely.

And here to talk about not just the Brewers, Packers have a bye week.

The Badgers are going to go to Michigan and get spanked, in my opinion, but here to a cashing of the excitement, a brewer fever.

He's caught it.

Nobody covers it better.

Their own sports reporter, Mike Clemens, who joins us live from Milwaukee, Mike, how are

you?

Todd, I just texted you a picture.

I think because there's writers in the press box.

And then there's network crews here from TBS.

We'll get that setting up stuff We've been here since 11 o'clock this morning But and now the brewers just took to the field for BP and then the Cubs will be out here at 5 30 We're gonna talk to council here in about 25 minutes, so I'll be going downstairs But you know something because you we might see I've told you before I got hired by TV 18

in August of 82, about 21, 22 years old, still at UWM.

I lied on a few things.

Okay, I lied.

You just exaggerated.

It's fine.

I got it.

Oh, sure, I've done that.

Sure.

Oh, yeah.

Maybe I looked older at the time, but I was a producer for Mike Hegan, the former ball player for the Blues in the Reds.

And Steve Shannon was the play-by-play guy.

And

So I was, I got to cover all those World Series games that just a bit outside is all about.

And so today, today to see this, this nice warm October day, it's already October and there's still baseball here.

I'm telling you, I got goosebumps.

I mean, I know these guys have been, it's like Mark Antonosio just told us here about 45 minutes ago.

He did a press conference with a GM, Matt Arles says, yeah, I bought the team 21 years ago.

They had 12 losing seasons.

We've been to the playoffs eight of the last nine years.

Yeah, I'd say I've been a good custodian.

But then to see the Cubs hold on, even after they were being in some of the Padres, they got a really bad call.

A really bad call.

A whole man.

The Cubs are here, and then this thing gets going tomorrow.

First time ever that these two teams, obviously,

that faced each other in the postseason.

I mean, you can't ask for a better script.

No, you really can't.

I'll give this a quickly because the game is being carried on many of our stations here on the Civic Media Radio Network, including WRCE and Richland Center, WISS, and Oshkosh WCQM and Park Falls WBZH in Hayward.

First pitch tomorrow on Saturday for the NLDS at Amfam, 1 0 8 in the afternoon.

pregame

show

just after 1230 and you can hear it on all those stage over the air cannot stream on the app but over the air.

Mike Clemens.

So

turn on the radio.

Yeah, yeah, on the

radio.

Jeff and Lane will do the play by play and get you all the inside stuff like that.

But if you're not lucky enough to get tickets to this thing, it's going to be on either TBS or I guess HBO Max.

And I was joking with a guy yesterday said, you know, when the game started at 108.

because it's going to take eight minutes to find a flipping game.

You're right.

You're right about that.

I'm not going to play the whole clip, but I want to play and this appeared in my timeline here.

I think on Twitter last night and this was put out by the Brewers a few years ago.

And if you're a Cubs fan, I want you to listen really closely and think

to

yourself if you're a Cubs fan.

Is this the guy that you want leading your team into the NLDS tomorrow?

I don't know you.

I don't know your story, your background, what you do for a living.

And yet, I do know you.

I know how your eyes lit up the first time you walked into county stadium.

I know how as a kid, you dreamed of being Robin Young.

and wanted nothing more than to one day wear that brewer's script across your chest.

I know that every summer you stay up late listening to Mr. Baseball on the radio.

I know that you'll never forget October 10th, 1982.

September 28th, 2008.

for October

7th, 2011.

So it

goes on from there.

If you don't recognize the voice, that is former Brewer's player, former Brewer's manager, and the current Cubs manager, Craig Council.

Mike Lemons, this guy, he's in his soul.

If you're a Cubs fan, aren't you like, is this really the guy that we want leading our club tomorrow?

And

you know, he's reading script by the way That's you know, that's Brewer's productions.

Listen, he he incerns left after the heater trade man, right?

You know, I mean come on and and you know, he he He played he stayed here two more years Filled out his contract walked out the door.

Was it gonna say anything?

They'd lost in the in the playoffs

And, you know, whatever happened, it happened in the next 48 hours after that.

But the Cubs were waiting at the minute that they could call and meet him and bring him in.

And then, you know, they opened up their books and showed, here's how much money we'll spend.

Here's how much payroll that you'll have, you know, the kinds of players you can acquire.

And, you know, he, he, he'd had enough of this here.

But what's amazing, what's amazing is that.

How do you have this continuity?

How do you end up having 97 wins with a bunch of these kids?

I mean kids.

Isaac who?

Caleb what?

And here you have the best record in baseball.

And that's just the beauty of this story.

The Mets are sitting at home watching this.

And they spent three times as much as you did.

And today I got to ask a question, Todd.

I've been asking a while, it's not like you can, you know, go up to Marc Antanasio and talk about this anytime.

But I said, you know that anybody watching baseball this year, and then when they watched a Brewers game, the average fan is saying, where did they get these guys?

Where did they get these guys?

There's a dozen guys out here that we didn't know who they were.

The Miz, Jacob Mizorowski.

Where did they get these guys?

And to me, I think they came in with a plan where they said,

We're not spending 300 million or more on a bunch of, you know, washed up veterans in their 30s.

We're going to get hungry kids in here, and we're going to take that money and put it into scouting.

And we're going to find the next Jackson Churio out of Venezuela or, you know, all parts of the Western Hemisphere.

He deferred to Matt Arnold and said, oh, I hired good executives.

And then I try and say no.

try not to ever say no when they ask me for things.

But I know that Doug Melvin said this, and see these guys, they still are playing their cards close to the vest.

Doug Melvin, before he retired as GM, he said, our department is like almost tripled in the time that I've been here.

So I think they put it in more scouts in the field and more recruiting that way to get in these younger ball players rather than put all that money on one ball player who's out

on the 15 day IL.

Mike, I talked to Mike Clemens here, a great sports reporter from Ampham Field in Milwaukee.

Mike, I still want to touch on the Packers and the Badgers a little bit.

But quickly, get your sense from somebody who's in that clubhouse all season, who's been around these guys.

Pat Murphy, the great manager who I think should be named NL manager, not baseball manager of the year this year.

But we had Brady Ewing on the show for Badger NFL player last week.

And I asked him about Pat Murphy's comments that he made

to Bob Costas on the Major League Baseball Network here a week or two ago, where he said, it really comes down, Murph did, to the who, to the who.

And we have the right guys in this clubhouse.

But as someone who's been in the clubhouse, Mike Clemens, is that real?

This is a story I'm going to ask Murph about tomorrow in the pregame if we have a chance.

This is where, sure there's analytics involved, right?

And developing and all that, but this is where you still need a Pat Murphy to push the buttons during a game.

They're playing Cincinnati.

They're trying to keep that 14 game streak alive.

It's a Saturday night, and the Reds are desperate to come back, and the Reds made it into the postseason.

And he goes to Andrew Monasterio and says, are you ready?

Two or three times during the game, he says, are you ready?

Are you ready?

And then in the, like in the 12th inning in overtime, he puts them in, he throws in the pinch hitter when they least expect it.

And the kid hits one out of the park and they win the game.

That's Pat Murphy.

He's working, he's working the kid.

He's playing with his mind and says to him, are you ready to do something great?

And

he does.

Yeah.

It's incredible.

It's just incredible.

I can't imagine being in your seat, getting to see it from a front row there.

It has to be absolutely great.

Again, Brewers, pregame show around 1230 on many of our stations.

First pitch against the Cubs at 1 0 8 tomorrow afternoon.

You can see it on, like I said, is it TBS or TN?

What are those Turner stations?

I don't know.