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We'll play that in a bit.
Uh, well, let's finish this up first.
So we started this last hour and I just want to put a button on it.
And Jimmy Kimmel coming back tonight on ABC late night.
However, according to The Hill, Sinclair, the second largest provider of local news, the country announced that its ABC affiliates will preempt Jimmy Kimmel's late night show tonight.
Company in a post on social platform X, formerly Twitter, said it will replace broadcast of Jimmy Kimmel Live with news programming.
Kimmel will return to the air tonight, as we said.
after being suspended indefinitely with by ABC, quote, discussions with ABC are ongoing.
As we evaluate the show's potential return on quote, Sinclair said.
And again, Sinclair, Nexstar, the other big company in this, uh, Nexstar also announced it would preempt broadcast the comedian show, Nexstar, which owns the hill by the way.
I didn't know that.
I read the story.
Next our owns the hill calm the largest provider of local news in the country My question is is it?
Again, I'm not I'm not trying to chew their own horn here and boy I wish I could but the point is I'm proud to work for Civic because they have made it clear literally in a memo That they're not asking us as hosts to censor ourselves Obviously keep it FCC compliant but
When you listen to any of us on civic media, here's what I can tell you.
Whether you agree with me or any of my colleagues or not, know that it is coming, it is from our brains, it's from our heart, it's from our, it's you're getting the raw us.
There's nobody at this company that's telling us what we can tell you, what we have to tell you, or what we can't tell you in terms of news or content.
There's no edicts from above other than to tell the truth and do with integrity and And we need more of this in my opinion in television Sinclair owns Fox 47 here in Madison and the Fox affiliate up in the Green Bay area And as I said the first hour, I know some of the people that work at these stations and they're doing great reporting
There are people work at CBS doing great reporting So the reporters themselves are not a reflection of the corporate overlord But we have to be careful about what these large corporations are telling some of these fine reporters and or their management of what they can and can't report Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro said this yesterday day before yesterday
specifically on what the Kimmel decision means and what this is doing to intimidation of broadcasting.
We are selectively firing people because of their viewpoints.
And in addition to having Jimmy Kimmel no longer on the air, I think there's a deeper issue here.
I wanted to just take a moment on.
I was on a Spanish language radio program in the Allentown area, the Lehigh Valley here in Pennsylvania just the other day.
The host was asking me a bunch of questions about the work we're doing here in Pennsylvania, and he said something really chilling to me, that he now has to think about what topics he's going to discuss because he's fearful he might offend federal regulators or offend the president.
Now, this wasn't that type of a
program where we were engaged in a lot of that conversation.
But the fact that you have journalists now who will think, do I really want to probe some elected leader on that particular topic because it could offend federal regulators?
Do I want to tell that joke because it might put someone off?
Do I want to adjust my views to be more on the right wing side of the political conversation to curry favor with these federal regulators?
That, in many ways, is even more dangerous than silencing one person, no disrespect, of course, to Jimmy Kimmel and his powerful boys.
I think we're at a really dangerous moment here.
And censorship and what we're seeing from the federal government only serves to further divide us and make us less safe and erode our fundamental freedoms here in this country and for a Republican party led by Donald Trump.
who loved for decades to, you know, cloak themselves in this blanket of patriotism and freedom.
Heck, Donald Trump was talking about free speech in his inaugural address, what was that, seven or eight months ago.
And now, to see how quickly they are eroding when the foundational guideposts of our nation should scare everyone.
Whether you agree with the president or not, whether you voted for him or not, we are all less safe and less free because the actions of this
Democrat of Pennsylvania, I think he nailed it.
I think so too.
It's the fear of it.
It's the fact that people are broadcasting now, this company excluded, but many people broadcasting are now having to think, well, should I say it that way?
Because our license might be up for grabs.
Should I really report the truth or should I put a spin on it?
And that is very dangerous indeed.
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Let's go quickly to Stoughton, CJ.
Let's do the MDX, CJ, up against the clock, but I wanted to give you a chance to what he got.
Well, thanks.
Well, what Kimmel was taken off for was partially because he wasn't profitable, but the mere fact that what he said was untrue, he attached after the governor from New Jersey
I'm sorry, Utah, stated on five different news programs, Sunday morning news programs, that this assassin was from the left.
What Kimmel said was a blatant lie, and he intentionally did it.
It was on the teleprompter.
He read it.
This was calculated.
He should have been taken off.
He should still be taken off because his show, you know what,
and listen to Greg Gunfeld, that's funny.
That's a good show, that's why he's number
I mean, A, Kimmel is making, I mean, I don't believe Disney would be bringing him back if he wasn't making the money, number one.
Number two, we played the same, we've played the entire thing, what Kimmel actually said, and he was not attacking, Charlie Kirk was not making fun of the assassination, he was making a joke about,
the MAGA number one, the MAGA base.
That's funny.
try to try to have funny.
And then and then he played the clip that we did of Donald Trump not seeming really to care about that death and talking about the ballroom.
I mean, that's just pointing out something that's hypocritical.
But regardless of whether or not you agree with it or I agree with it.
Do you let me ask you this.
So I got that I got to jump.
But you agree with Ted Cruz, who
who associated with what the FCC chairman did to the mafia.
Ted Cruz called out what this administration did as a mafia type of intimidation on free speech.
Do you agree or disagree?
Well, no, I don't, but I don't always agree with Ted Cruz.
I don't always agree with the president.
I certainly don't agree.
with Kimmel that it was Mega that's trying to score points after this, off of
All right, I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate the
Appreciate the perspective, CJ.
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Now, before the hour or after the hour of three o'clock.
Lots going on here.
We have breaking news.
Before we get to that, we want to give Mark a chance he's waiting on the line.
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What do you
got?
Thanks so much.
I think a bit of history coming on the media and making cracking jokes about the leader is that King Henry VIII, when he was trying to get a divorce from Catherine, that a one-wit posted that the Pope's bull has tied up the king's balls, and he was subsequently arrested for that.
We're supposed to be able to be free to say something like that in this country without being an executor to loosen your livelihood.
Because Donald Trump's is thinner skin than John Adams.
And that's what got John Adams also upset about the press because they were poking fun at his prickliness or that I can't think of.
Off the top of my head what it was there.
He was all bent out of shape over.
But Donald Trump should actually have a little bit thicker skin because the way he tosses out insults constantly.
that, um, he said, you know, that, you know, you should be able to take as good as you can.
Right.
Donald Trump is a, he's a child when it comes to that.
We got clips from today at the UN.
Wait till you hear some of the things, uh, the president of the United States said at the UN today.
Certainly very, very, uh, interesting to say the least.
All right, it's let's see what time we got here.
We got 8 30 for it 18 after all right 18 after trying to manage the clock here a little bit What should we do?
Should we open up the the things armors or should we wait till we we come back?
We have breaking news That's a that's part of what's going on here and we're gonna tell you that here in just a couple of minutes We have a new entry into the gubernatorial race for the state of Wisconsin
But we also have we also got to open up the thing.
We've got time to open the thing.
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Today the category.
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And having fun doing it, welcome back to the title of our show on the scenic media radio network, 22 now past the hour of three o'clock, Tuesday, September 23rd, 2025, Aaron Zommers on the board, doing Yeoman's work as always, glad to have you along, gonna get back to our what's worst category today, high prices of beef or high prices of chicken at the old grocery store.
I know we got somebody talking to wants to talk Kimmel as well.
We'll get to all of that, but first little breaking news for you on a Tuesday afternoon.
As a friend of mine used to say, or something still says, not a surprise, nor is it unexpected.
Not a surprise, nor is it unexpected.
Congressman Tom Tiffany, Republican of Wisconsin's 7th Congressional District, announced this afternoon he is running for governor of the state of Wisconsin.
He is on the conservative talker, Daniel Donald show.
Saying quote it has been an honor to represent my friends and neighbors in Western and northern Wisconsin and Congress where I worked alongside President Trump to secure our border and deliver the largest tax cut in the history for family seniors and small businesses now I'm ready to take To it's rather ready to lead for every corner of our state unquote from the release official release from Congressman Tom Tiffany Who after flirty biggest political flirt in the state?
Let me tell you, I've been around Congressman Tiffany.
Political flirting is about all he's good at in terms of flirting, in my opinion.
Uh, we're going to do the same thing.
And by the way, he's welcome.
We're going to reach out as we've had, we've had so far all of the Democratic, all except one of the Democratic candidates for governor on the show.
We've had Josh Shulman, Republican candidate.
for governor on this show and Congressman Tiffany is welcome to come on, welcome to come on this show as well.
And hope, glad to have him.
We wanna give everybody a chance to hear from everybody.
But we're gonna do the same thing for Tiffany that we've done for everyone else is we're gonna play the first minute of their video announcement.
Here is Congressman Tom Tiffany's video announcement on running for Wisconsin governor.
Growing up on a dairy farm in Western Wisconsin, my morning started at sunrise, milking cows and feeding calves.
I worked my way through UW River Falls and built a life in the Northwoods with my wife, Chris.
Wisconsin gave me everything, a chance to raise three daughters, start a small business, and live the American dream.
But under Democrat leadership in Madison, that dream is slipping away.
Farms are disappearing, factories are shutting down, and our children's educational results have fallen behind Mississippi.
behind Mississippi.
I'm Tom Tiffany and I'm running for governor because I love our state.
I see where we are headed and I know we can do better.
You know we can do better.
I will freeze property taxes, protect our farmland from communist China, and I'll preserve our Wisconsin values just like my mom does with her pickles.
Girl sports will stay for girls, moms will be moms, not inseminated persons, and common sense will win.
Because we cannot let Minnesota's madness in Illinois' insanity to take over here in Wisconsin.
Madison politics may smell like the barn, but I know how to clean up the bowl.
I will roll up my sleeves and deliver results for every Wisconsinite.
That's my promise to you.
Together, we will make Wisconsin a shining star in America again.
I appreciate the clarity appreciate the transparency as a former political flak as they say
I would say very canned, very filled with cliches.
And we've heard from other candidates, quite frankly, including Josh Showman on the Republican side, but all the Democratic candidates, mainly they're about bringing people together.
Some of the Democrats took a couple of pod shots at Trump in particular, but you didn't hear, in my opinion, correct me if I'm wrong, Zauber, you didn't hear the very divisive issue things that we just heard from Congressman Tiffany.
Josh are a part of me Tom Tiffany going right for the jugular Social issues there and and I mean to get the I mean really as as a Republican strategist Bill McCosh and has said on this program
For the Republican side, it's all about Donald Trump's endorsement.
Whoever Trump endorses, I mean, they're only going for one vote, really, in the primary, and it's Donald Trump's.
So it's not surprising to me that Tom Tiffany is going for all of the hot-button issues that would get Donald Trump's attention.
So I want to weigh in on Tom Tiffany's announcement and finish up the Kimmel discussion.
Want to do that as well?
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Let's go quickly to the phone line.
Cam and Appleton, you wanted to talk on Kimmel coming back tonight.
What do you got, Cam?
Yeah, sure.
Thank you for taking my call.
I first wanted to touch on the Tom Tiffany thing real quick.
He is against Taiwan being a thing, period.
He's all for China taking that over.
For Russia, he voted
with nine other Republicans, or he was one of nine Republicans who voted against a House resolution condemning Russia's abduction of Ukrainian children.
So that's cool.
I hope he doesn't win again at all.
But if we go back to September 8 of this year, so two days before Kirk was assassinated, Trump had truth, the re-truth,
No, he truth on his social media platform an AI video of Nancy Pelosi Saying my husband is still in love with the homeless hammer guy visiting him in jail Two days Yeah We need to assign people like tasks we need to sign people like CJ tasks
to go do proper research and report back what their findings were almost like a study session because I don't understand how we can improve literacy in the media.
Okay.
I'm going to come back right now.
A little farm news of Pam Yankee and Midwest Farm Report.
We'll come back just for clarity.
We're going to play the clip that all this is about, that you hear it in your own words.
The full clip from Jimmy Kimmel Live.
He's coming back tonight.
We'll button that up.
We'll finish up what's worse, high beef prices, high chicken prices, and talk about President Trump today at the UN and his thoughts on Tylenol.
Pursuing truth wherever it may lead and having fun doing it.
Welcome back to town of all show on the civic media ready to work Aaron Zomers on the board doing a great job there.
Appreciate it.
Zomers 35 now past the hour of three o'clock on Tuesday, September 23rd, 2025.
Glad to be with you.
Lots to get to busy day.
We love about live radio.
Always something different going on breaking news.
Tom Tiffany, Republican Congressman of the 7th District in the North Woods, as they say.
on an announcement that was expected.
And that is he is running for governor.
So he is officially in.
We played you like all the other candidates, the first clip or the first minute or so of his announcement.
It was short, in my opinion, rather canned and trite, but that's just my opinion.
But like how all look, we've had Josh Showman, the Republican side had all the Democratic, almost all the Democratic candidates on the show.
He is welcome to come on this program.
Love to talk with him.
Directly congressman Tom Tiffany is in also.
What's worse is going on right now.
We're gonna get back to that in a minute Food brought this a lot of people You know, they don't like to talk about it, but Have you been to the grocery store lately Zombers?
If you actually talk to farmers, ag producers, they will tell you that the cost of things like fertilizer or other things is going through the roof because of the Trump tariffs.
What's worse today, high beef prices or high chicken prices.
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Uh, what do you think?
Because we're, we're talking Jimmy Kimmel coming back to ABC tonight.
I'm really hoping and I'm, I like both he and Colbert.
I'm gonna, how should I do this?
Maybe I'm gonna record one and watch the other one live.
And Stephen Colbert won the Emmy Award this year for Best Late Night Talk Show.
And Jimmy Kimmel paid for a billboard in Hollywood with his face on it that said, because they were both nominated, and Kimmel's billboard says, I'm voting for Colbert.
For one night watch Kimmel that's what I'm hoping for but I'm gonna be watching Kimmel that's for sure and Talking about some of these stations owned by Sinclair Broadcasting the next star are still gonna preempt Jimmy Kimmel live tonight and just for the record I want to play in its entirety the clip the segment from a couple weeks ago that
ABC used as the justification for suspending Jimmy Kimmel Live.
Here he is from ABC's Jimmy Kimmel Live.
We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and do everything they can to score political points from it.
In between the finger pointing, there was grieving.
On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism.
But on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this.
I think very
He's at the fourth stage of grief, construction.
Demolition.
Construction.
This is not how an adult greaves the murder of someone he called a friend.
This is how a four-year-old mourns a goldfish.
That's Jimmy Kimmel
There was the entire clip.
You heard it yourself.
Our friend Rob down in beautiful Monroe, Wisconsin, listening in.
Robert says, quote, on the text line, listening on WRCE, our mutual hometown.
and Richland Center.
Robin Monroe says, I do not think Kimmel said that the shooter was Maga.
I believe he stated what he stated was right, or the Maga were trying to pin the shooting shooter with the left and distance themselves and the shooter from any potential connection to Maga or the right.
And as you just heard, Robert
I don't want this to go into a big discussion on this issue, but I will simply say, isn't it fascinating?
Isn't it fascinating how just like with the attempted shooter.
Trump last year when He the shooter killed two people behind Trump and allegedly injured Trump's ear We never heard hide your hair that guy just Don't really about him Didn't have an update from the medical team when what Trump happened or nothing Same thing with this guy Suddenly we don't want it.
Nobody wants to talk about this alleged shooter.
No boots gone
Just nothing about him.
I Find that fascinating and your point somers.
We don't know Much about this guy the alleged shooter.
We don't know much about the actual motivation All we do know to your point to Rob's point to Kimmel's point that at least for about 48 36 hours there
The manga base including the vice president were trying to do everything they can to distance themselves from that guy and Kimmel simply pointed that out and he played the same clip that we played on this show of Donald Trump You know want to talk more about the ballroom at the White House Then he did his allegedly very close friend
And I think Kimmel had every right to do that.
And again, it doesn't matter whether anybody agreed with him.
It's about coming down on speech and then connecting that with the billion dollar deals of Disney and Hulu and all these other
Conservative.
Republican, MAGA, U.S.
Senator Ted Cruz of Texas equated what Zomers just said to mafia tactics.
I don't give Ted Cruz many props, but props to U.S.
Senator Ted Cruz for calling it out for what it is.
I will give him credit on that one.
Well done, Senator Cruz.
I don't say that very often, do I, Zomers?
Let's wrap up a little what's worse for you for today high prices or high high beef prices or high chicken prices 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Ali in the north woods Ali.
Thanks for holding on high beef prices or high chicken prices.
What's worse?
First I'd like to just say that Trump has moved on from
what Jimmy Kimmel was talking about, and now he's gone into denial.
Because I heard him say to the UN today that grocery prices have fallen.
Right?
I don't know, Ollie.
You tell me about your groceries
Northwoods.
They have not fallen, believe me.
I was just wondering where he's shopping because I'd like to go there.
Yeah, he doesn't even know about groceries.
Well, anyway, I guess I think the price of beef has gotten absolutely ridiculous, but it used to be you could...
If beef was how you could buy chicken, but now it's getting to where you can't hardly buy chicken anymore either.
Right.
Yep.
Yep.
My, my main concern is to whether or not I can afford either groceries or medication.
So, um, I know a lot of people are in my same situation and that's all thanks to Trump.
Heart goes out to Ali.
I mean, I hear this with a lot of people as we travel around.
You're not the only one.
Medication or groceries.
So hang in there, Ali.
Appreciate your, uh, your listenership as always.
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What's worse, high beef prices or high chicken prices.
Joseph, watching on YouTube says for me, chicken is a staple protein and beef is a treat item.
High chicken prices are worse.
I think I said, yeah, a lot of people, for a lot of people, gotta make those decisions, right?
I mean, I'm, look, I, not too very, not so long ago, I can remember going to a grocery store with the change from my truck thinking, okay, what kind of, what generic bread or what, you know, what can I afford to buy here?
I mean that these are real issues that Wisconsinites are facing.
If what we can afford for groceries and if we, you know, what for people on medication, is it the price of the medication?
Is it medication or is it groceries?
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What's worse, high beef prices or high chicken prices.
Steve.
Listing on WAUK in Milwaukee says beef prices are ridiculous.
Tyler in Columbia County, listening on WMDX, high chicken prices are worse.
A little goes a long way when on a budget plus rice, right?
Rice is also another great staple as well.
High chicken prices are high beef prices.
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Dolores listing on WMDX here in Madison says beef prices.
are worse.
All right.
Diane in Madison says chicken prices are higher in here in Madison.
Appreciate that, Diane.
Thanks for, thanks for checking in, just scrolling through here, kind of trying to make sure we got caught up.
I think we're all caught up more or less.
Corey, one last one in Watertown says, all this in the WMDX says, the beef prices are the worst, especially in grocery stores overfill the ground beef containers.
There is never a one pound package of meat.
It's always 1.2, 1.28, et cetera, but never one pound anymore.
It's like putting the thumb on the meat scale.
I feel you, Corey, but for those of us who are single,
It's like, I don't need that much.
I need a smaller portion.
All right, we're going to come back, give you what Trump said at the UN today, and wrap things up.
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All right, last to get to want to get Donald Trump at the UN General Assembly.
Remember last time he was there, he got laughed at because he said it was he got more done than any other administration and people in the room thought that was a joke.
And he was like, well, I didn't mean it as a joke.
Here's how it started today at the UN General Assembly in New York for Donald Trump when the teleprompter wasn't working.
All right, so threatening the teleprompter operator that's all and most professionals like that happened to Obama not maybe not the UN but most people in that situation You make something like a self deprecating joke and then you or you don't say anything at all just go on
But no, he has to blame somebody else of course right away then Trump got into a little more And well, let's just play the here's Trump at the UN here we go
if you don't get away from this green scam Your country is going to fail and I'm really good at predicting things.
You know, they actually said during the campaign They had a hat The best-selling hat Trump was right about everything and I don't say that in a braggadocious way, but it's true.
I've been right about
Everything.
And I'm telling you that if you don't get away from the green energy scam, your country is going to fail.
Just sum it up.
Is Sean Therar, a journalist, I believe at Washington Post,
He put this on X this afternoon.
He says, quote, a senior foreign diplomat posted at the UN texted me, quote, this man is stark, raving mad.
Do Americans not see how embarrassing this is?
Unquote that allegedly from a senior foreign diplomat to a reporter.
I mean, the only good thing that I would say that came out of this is that I we're on the air with part of this happened allegedly Trump.
Now says he's on the side of Ukraine and predicted that Ukraine will win the war with Russia without giving back original land.
So I mean, if the tide has turned on Ukraine and Trump's mind, I'm all for that.
But the rest of it seems to be kind of horse hockey.
All right, let's get to what Trump said yesterday.
This is important as well.
Wendy made this and I feel really bad for parents and people with autism.
because I think this was cruel.
Oh, yeah.
He announced that they had found the cause of autism and then said this.
Nothing bad can happen.
It can only good happen.
But with Tylenol, don't take it.
Don't take it.
And if you can't live, if your fever is so bad, you have to take one because there's no alternative to that.
Sadly, first question, what can you take instead?
It's actually, there's not an alternative to that.
And as you know, other of the medicines are absolutely proven bad.
I mean, they've been proven bad with the aspirins and the adbills and others, right?
So it goes on from there.
I mean, just again, because we're up against the clock, it's word sell, but there is no science behind this.
Tylenol came along after autism was diagnosed, so it makes no sense.
Let's listen to our very own Dr. Kristen Lyerle who is OBGYN, a medical doctor.
She has her fine programmed on weekends, the Dr. Kristen Lyerle show.
Here's what Dr. Lyerle said about a week ago about this subject.
I've been in medicine for over 20 years and I'm here to tell you that we have
zero evidence that Tylenol taken in pregnancy causes autism.
So if you are a family living with autism, this is not your fault.
And in fact, we don't know what causes autism.
It's likely multifactorial.
There are probably many things that contribute.
So one more time, we have zero evidence that Tylenol causes autism.
And one more thing, it's acetaminophen.
That's how you say it.
You got to get a sense of humor about it, but I go back to really, I know families that have kids that have autism and.
Look, I was born with a cleft palate and cleft lip.
And I know that my own mom went through this to a degree like, did I do something wrong during my pregnancy?
Or other moms, mothers that carry children might have something quote unquote wrong with their kid.
Are they trying to blame themselves?
And what Trump did yesterday, in my opinion, and there was a whole thing about this.
We didn't have time to get to connected with Dr. Oz because he owns...
Or has an ownership stake in what Trump is suggesting what else to take this is cruel to parents No from dr. Liarley a medical doctor you did nothing wrong There is no evidence to suggest that Tylenol is causational to autism Trust your local doctor
That's what it comes down to.
Great show today.
Appreciate it, Zombers.
Luke Mathers as well.
All of you for listening.
Maggie Dawn is next.
Whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in, do not give up.
Keep banging your drum.
Back with Pat Crichtlow
We'll see you then.
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