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An Animated Discussion With Pat and Trygve (Hour 1)
The Todd Allbaugh Show · Wed Sep 3, 2025
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Todd Albaugh along with Mr. Aaron Zommers, our producer and engineer on the board.
It is six minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this Wednesday, September 3rd, 2025.
It is a great day to be a Wisconsinite.
And it is pump day.
That's right.
Made it halfway through a short week.
So I guess it's kind of hump day-ish.
cloudy skies here at the World Headquarters of Civic Media in downtown Madison on State Street.
Glad to have you along.
Fall has arrived here in the state of Wisconsin.
Bert Emerlowe, our great meteorologist, says we're gonna feel much more fall-like temperatures almost 20 degrees below normal for highs here in the next two or three days or so.
Gonna recover somewhat by the end of the weekend and maybe close to 80 by Sunday or Monday.
Get out those jackets, folks.
Windy.
Windy.
I walked up State Street here to our friends at Wonder State Coffee before the show, and, wow, if I had hair, it would have blown away.
But anyway, glad to have you along on the Wednesday edition here after the Labor Day holiday.
Things are back to normal.
The gang is back together here on a Wednesday, joining us from his studios at beautiful Lake Wissota, the host of Mornings with Pat Crichtlow, powered by Up North News.
Mr. Pat Crichtlow joins us from Lake Wissota and...
A former Republican like myself, a good old River Falls boy, now the senior advisor to the Lincoln Project, joining us from a secure, undisclosed location outside our nation's capital, Trey V. Olsen, gentlemen, how are you?
Well, we're good because we could spend a lot of time reminiscing about childhood cartoons during the break there just now.
Underdog, Tennessee Tuxedo, Commander McBrag,
gophers.
There were a lot of dogs there, but you had quick drama-graw in there, too.
Scooby-Doo.
We really have just become the two old men rocking on the porch, talking about days gone by.
But when we all grew up, I mean, Saturday cartoons were the thing.
There was no on demand.
There was no, I mean, we weren't even wealthy enough to have a VCR when I was a kid.
And so it was, it was just like, you know, you had to be up at seven o'clock on Saturday morning.
If you wanted to watch Roadrunner Bugs Bunny or Grape Ape or one of my personal favorites, Hong Kong Fui.
Or, you know, that was.
Right,
Captain Caveman.
Could
we do an hour on 70 Saturday morning cartoons?
You betcha.
Yes, we could.
Guys, what was it again?
What are two of top favorites?
Oh, well, I was very much a Bugs Bunny, you know, Roadrunner, Warner Brothers kind of person.
So that was me.
But I did like some of the other, you know, Rocky and Bullwinkle and Underdog was another favorite.
Trinkv?
For a short time it was.
Yes, it was.
Yes.
And especially when they did
crossover things like Scooby-Doo meets
and Scooby-Doo meets the Harlem Globetrotters.
Right.
And that ridiculous stuff.
You know what I didn't like was that Sid and Marty Croft stuff, like HR Puffin stuff.
Oh, yeah.
And then there were a couple of others like, ugh, just, and Land of the Lost.
That one was a zero plus minus on, you know.
That was a weird one.
Everybody loved dinosaurs.
So
Synthelating.
Zombers.
Like what?
Like Scooby-Doo was still on.
It was still really.
Sometimes reruns, sometimes new shows because there's been many incarnations of Scooby-Doo.
But my favorites were honestly when they played the ones from the 70s.
Like I loved watching Rocky and Bo Linkle and what was in my brain?
Looney Tunes, the most obvious thing.
Why did I forget that?
Oh, yeah.
Well, it's because everything that I know about high culture, everything I know about opera, for example, comes from Bugs Bunny Cartoon.
We learned
Jerry.
and Jerry was another one.
Again, classical music with Jerry and the piano.
I mean, the kids are missing out these days.
They got bluey and all that.
Well, now it's all real.
We had coyotes falling off of cliffs.
Come on.
Exactly.
And now it's all this educational crap where, oh, let's talk about dogs need a home.
You know, let's let's get get kid to the science.
You know, there's mean it's just all that kind of stuff now.
By the way,
this is the only thing that is on the civic media-ready network right now.
It's 11 minutes past the hour two o'clock.
All right, guys, let's get into a slightly more serious fair here in terms of politics happening across the state of Wisconsin and in Washington, D.C.
I want to start with this.
because especially why Pat is here, a former Democratic state senator here in the legislature.
get his take and and and trig v as a republican strategist as well our old friends at the democratic party uh are some of them some are still high on the hog david hog in particular who uh spent a short time as a vice chair of the democratic national committee until he announced that he and his personal pack were going to that's political action committee by the way uh we're going to target
Certain Democrats in Congress incumbents because they either in his view were too old
or we're not voting progressive enough, and get rid of him.
Well, it turns out that my least favorite Martin, Ken Martin, who beat Ben Wickler for the chair of the DNC, so there's a big falling out, and David Hogg got pushed out of the DNC, and now he's off of his own, going rogue.
He's a feral hog, politically.
And so now, this week, he had some comments.
It was questioned here.
I believe this is by The Hill.
He was at and saying, now, here is his mission.
Here's David Hogg from this week.
What I would say is we are not challenging people that are in anything less like I would say D plus nine race that we're almost certain that it's almost certainly going to be Democratic and we will be funding candidates that are running in competitive races to challenge Republican incumbents at the same time.
Right.
I don't want us to lose the majority in the house because somebody you know just because we may not agree with somebody fully where they are on on guns or something like that even at least right now when I feel like democracy is on the line.
That is David Hogg and his
political action committee talking about what he's going to do.
Pat Crite low as a Democrat.
Is this where and I'm not going to look, David Hogg is a prominent figure in today's Democratic politics.
But is this what I mean, plus nine districts in 2026?
I'm not sure.
For those that don't know, that just simply means that the incumbent one by nine percentage points or more in their district.
If someone won by nine percentage points, Pat, is that the person you really want to be going after?
In terms of you know going after fellow Democrats.
Yeah, I think I think I missed the boat on this one No, I
probably didn't set it up that well.
I guess my point is this is that
is that I don't consider a plus nine a safe democratic seat.
And Hogg's point is, oh, Democrats are going to win that seat regardless because it's a plus nine.
I don't think nine percentage points in 2026 is all that huge of a margin.
Go after people that are plus 26 if that's really what you want to do.
I don't think they should be doing it anyway, but let's see.
I mean, this kind of comes back to, you know, Howard Dean and the 50 state strategy.
And of course, at the time, you know, there were people that were highly critical of that saying, you know, you've only got so many resources, you can only put them into so many areas.
And Howard Dean saying, I'm sick of that.
And we're going to compete everywhere because you never know how fortunes might swing.
And I would point in the case of Democrats to 2006, where, again, it was one of those years where Democrats won seats that they hadn't won in nearly 100 years in some parts of like Southwest Wisconsin in the legislature.
But, you know,
So it's one thing of being competitive in in every district, or do you just invest in a few?
But with David Hogan, I mean, I hear him most frequently talking about going after, you know, older fellow Democrats, who he thinks their time is up and they should move on.
And he may be right.
But again, you only have finite resources.
I'd pick your battles more carefully and try to actually win control than I would take time going after
You know, Steny Hoyer or somebody else in their 80s who frankly should have left.
Yeah.
But at least the seats in their hands.
Trivio Olsen is plus nine Democrat.
Is that really a quote unquote safe seat for Democrats going into 2026 and should hog be stirring the pot in the primaries?
Say that again, you're a little soft.
Yes.
safe.
It's safe.
So you're okay with
is reminds me of the Tea Party types that I used to meet in 2010.
Oh, we're going to primary all the Democrats like Steny Hoyer that we don't like or Gwen Moore rather than spending money beating Brian Stile or Derek Van Orton, like so we can have a more progressive Congress.
So let's divide things even worse.
Like David Hogg needs to learn the game he's in because he isn't going to get any, the truth of the matter is 55% of Americans.
Across the entire country aren't buying what David Hogg is selling and most of them probably never will so they get focused on converting people not on Trying to create purity tests within your own party because you're no better than mega if that's what you're doing Period stop end of story might not be popular with some of the people in the audience, but it's true Yeah, I mean I
I mean Pat I I just think to trigger his point that
Already now what's happening in Texas this redistricting Democrats essentially gonna be five seats down there because Likelihood is republicans have a better chance there to trigger this point Pat It wouldn't be who Democrats to vote doesn't matter whether it's formerly the DNC folks or outside groups focus on incumbent Republicans to try to increase to first to get the majority and a bigger majority going into 2027
No, well, yeah, I mean I 100% agree with that that this this is I think a lot of this conversation Gives gives the appearance that Democrats are somehow on the ropes and have to compete in districts where they're typically up by plus nine and I don't see 2026 like that at all even after the you know, the political malpractice the frankly criminal nearly criminal behavior that Texas Republicans are are doing right now I think that there's going to be
quite a democratic wave in 2026 as Trump continues to, well, do whatever it is that he's doing.
And frankly, I'm not even sure that he has the mental faculties to know what he's doing right now.
So I think a lot of this is stuff that we're going to forget as we get closer to November when Republicans are grasping to hold on to even a respectable minority at this point.
The latest from Axios today.
Now, pardon me, three more House Republicans add them to a list of incumbents making a break for a higher office.
Representative Ashley Heinzen or Hinzen, Republican of Iowa is running to succeed.
Senator Joni Ernst in the Senate.
Now the Ernst's planned retirement is official in other races.
Rep Harriet Higman, Republican of Wyoming, our very own Rep Tom Tiffany of Wisconsin, indicated that they plan to run for governor very soon as well.
It appears that Republicans, Trig V, are going to have their own problems trying to hang on to the house.
It wouldn't be very good.
I don't think for Republicans.
But I mean, truth of the matter is I was just doing Joe Trippie's podcast, which for those of you who don't, that trippy show, you should listen to it when it comes out.
It's really good.
But no, I mean, Joe's really
good.
I don't know
But yeah, Joe's podcast is great.
But.
Now, if the election were held today, it'd probably be a pretty good night for Democrats.
But the truth of the matter is, what is surprising to people that they're trying to make the elections not for your fair?
I mean, that's what autocrats do.
But you beat them not by complaining about it.
You don't beat them by trying to win that game by, OK, we're going to redistrict.
Sure, maybe you do that.
But the bottom line is the way that you beat them is you get more people to support your side so that, you know, you don't lose Wisconsin three by 5,000 votes.
You win it by 5,000 votes.
That means you need to get more people to support what you're selling.
And again, like, you know, David Hogg is busy wanting to fight internal fights while the Titanic sinks.
So just keep playing music.
No ships, but there are.
Those armed people
coming potentially to Chicago, maybe to Milwaukee and the police, the union head, welcomes it.
We'll discuss that with Pat Drink of the other side.
Come back to the top of our show on the Civic Media Radio Network.
We've become cartoonish.
Thank you, Mr. Zomers.
I appreciate that.
No, it's very good.
We're talking about our favorite cartoons to open up the show here on a Wednesday on the Civic Media Radio Network, 22 now, past the hour of three o'clock.
No cartoon characters, great broadcasters, great
political folks.
That's debatable.
I don't know.
Well, at least one of our guests is a great broadcaster.
Mr. Pat Critello joins us from Lake Wissota Studios there where you can find him every morning on mornings of Pat Critello from six until nine and Trig V. Olsen who joins us from Washington DC area via StreamYard and he is a senior advisor at The Lincoln Project.
First of all guys before we get back into
A little bit of politics.
I want you to quick take on this.
Our very Luke Mathers is all over this, sending out the latest from the Wisconsin lottery now.
The Powerball jackpot has increased to $1.4 billion for tonight.
Are you playing?
If I get out, yes.
I'm reminded that my wife...
Every so often just pushes me out the door and says, go touch grass, go outside and play.
can't sit at this desk all the time.
So yes, I do intend to go out and get a ticket.
I also know it's not the end of the world, but you know, dream dreams can only cost you a couple of bucks.
Exactly.
I'll play along.
Why not?
Trig
V. You're gonna get a power ball.
He's so he's so unenthusiastic, but you know you know your did you know your did
yet
And yet people win Powerball and I have never heard of anybody being struck three times by lightning.
So there's a statistician.
Wow.
I love
it'll be
in
Oh, Pat, quite low one.
There you go.
Just get on that.
You're all set to go.
All right, guys,
a
quick take here on something a little bit more serious.
We've seen in Washington, D.C.
outside of where Trigby is at proper.
the mayor out there, which I think is weird and goofy.
My opinion is they've got something on her or threatened her and she's just capitulated.
The mayor of DC now is basically saying, hey, if you want to take control of our police force in DC, stay here as long as you want.
We're fine with that.
Meanwhile, JD Vance was in La Crosse last week saying, we'd love to come to Milwaukee if we got an invite.
And now yesterday, the head of the police union in Milwaukee gave it.
Pat Crite, well, let's see.
Look, I just was finishing a story on this, which kind of ties in some of JD Vance's remarks from lacrosse last week, which by the way, I can summarize in this manner.
Be afraid of immigrants.
Be afraid of immigrants.
Be afraid of immigrants.
It's all about the crime.
But here's the thing, they love to talk about how in the past couple of weeks crime has plummeted in the nation's capital.
It has nothing to do with the troops that are there.
It does have a lot to do with the presence of people from some rather elite agencies, you know, the FBI, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the Drug Enforcement Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, people who have the power to make arrests are making arrests while our National Guard troops are using a lot of our resources.
to pick up trash, to which the mayor there, Meryl Bowser, said, look, if you gave me 500 additional police officers...
We'd see the same amount of arrests and gun recoveries and things like that.
It simply reinforces the point that cities have been begging for the resources they get austerity budgets from Republicans until things reach a certain level where the Republicans say, oh, you know what we need?
We need troops on the streets or more law enforcement officers making arrests.
Yeah, we could have used those law enforcement officers a long time ago.
instead of playing these political games that have wasted millions of our tax dollars.
Is this really about security or is this about setting things up to kind of not kind of but basically rig the election via suppression in
I don't know that it has anything to do with suppression and the elections.
I will tell you this to Pat's point.
So my daughter, Ula, wanted to go see the Washington Mystics.
That's the WNBA team play.
She's kind of really into women's basketball.
The arena is over in Anacostia, which is not a very nice neighborhood.
In fact, it's really bad neighborhood.
And I don't go in the district often and I'm driving Oula to the game.
I had to drive down Constitution and you get by the Capitol on the mall and there's National Guard guys out and about where there is no crime.
Incidentally, there's a bunch of Capitol Hill staffers playing softball and stuff like that.
You get over to Anacostia, not a National Guard person to be seen.
And there's like muggings going on as you're driving by.
And
it's
It is.
You got and again, you've got the the actual law enforcement folks from, you know, the FBI, the DEA, they're doing car stops for tinted windows and open alcohol containers and all that while being taken off whatever investigations that they were working on.
This is just one more lesson in how these folks are just
bad with our money, they're bad with our resources, but they sure know how to put on a TV show, how to put together political commercials and things like that.
And that's the world that we're living in right now.
In other words, I might be right, but I end up being wrong on election day when people go, Oh, well, those troops are there.
So I guess somebody's doing the right thing, even when they're not actually
I think it's cosplay until it's not and latest I've heard is that now the Trump administration to say we're not gonna send the military into place like Chicago or Milwaukee It's going to be ice and it's gonna be a reason to round up people
Once we've seen the past, many are citizens or permanent residents already.
And I do think it's going to be something to do to suppress the vote in 2026, Pat,
which is exactly what JB Pritzker, the Illinois governor said yesterday.
I highly recommend going back to his remarks.
They were spot on explaining what they intend to do, especially for Mexican New Year celebrations, which is just repugnant.
Yeah.
By the way, JD Vance being in La Crosse was very disappointed.
His advanced team did not take him to Ashley furniture.
So, for whatever that's worth.
Pat Crite, we'll appreciate you.
You can listen to him every
morning from
six until nine on the Civic Media Ready Network.
Come on back.
Tricky Olson joins us once again on the other side.
Farm News is next on the Civic Media Ready Network.
That's all folks.
Come back to the Taliban show of the civic media radio network 35 minutes now, past the hour of two o'clock.
Glad to have you along on a hump day Wednesday with our friend, ongoing contributor, senior advisor at the Lincoln Project, Mr. Trig V. Olsen, who joins us via stream yard from his home outside of our nation's capital.
He's in good mood now.
We played go you Packers go go the 1996 rendition.
which was Trigby's request.
Yes,
the radio.
I think so.
Yeah.
Um, in that context, I mean, yeah, uh, especially about the bears.
I Not normally normally we wait till the end of the show and I say if we get to it We'll talk about and I feel like I cheat trig v too often and so why not why not get into it in the heart of our Wednesday talk here with trig v Olson who is by the way a Green Bay Packer owner and so we're so happy to have this insider knowledge All right, trig v. What day I'm just gonna ask you at the big Micah Parsons a trade
Biggest acquisition, in my opinion, since Reggie White, Charles Woodson might be a candidate for that as well.
But certainly making the biggest impact.
This is a big deal.
Getting one of the greatest defensive players we've seen right now from Dallas, out from under Jerry Jones, now coming to the Packers.
What was your initial reaction?
second round
wouldn't call Kenny Clark washed
mean, they'll
then
Michael
and a
And then they trade Parsons for two second round picks and a washed up nose tackle.
Yeah, it's gonna be awesome.
I I just think I'm feeling very optimistic now Here's the really interesting part Todd as you know, my daughters and I and our listeners know because they were on when we were in Seattle My daughters and I are going to the game in Dallas Yeah, so they'll be there when that's going down should be pretty
that'll be exciting that'll be that'll
well
Like a few I think it's great.
We had our very I know that you have met and talked with Mark Murphy before now former Packers president.
Our very old Luke Mathers was here yesterday telling the story.
He was with family playing golf up in Dorr County over the weekend Labor Day weekend and they were just sitting there there off getting off the first nine and here coming in behind them.
It was a six of the civil force.
It was a six of and they're like what's going on?
It turned out as Mark Murphy who owns the course this course up in Dork County, and he was he was super cool and Luke in a basket way.
What do you think about that trade and Murphy said?
Yeah, basically like we really took it to Jerry
I mean the two times that
Actually, there was one professional time I talked him to.
But two times that I ended up talking to him, once he was wandering around the parking lot talking to fans at the Red Skin Packer game out in DC.
And yeah, true story.
Wow.
And I ended up talking to him then.
And then the second time I was on a Lambeau Field Tour with my daughters who were pretty little at the time.
And the guy who was giving the VIP tour.
We were down by the locker room and Mark Murphy with a couple other guys comes walking by and the guy's like, oh, there's Mark Murphy.
Don't, you know, just kind of leave him alone.
And my daughter, Kaya, I'm like, that's the president of the Packers.
She walks over to him right away because she isn't paying attention to what the guy says.
And it's like, hi, I'm Kaya.
I'm a Packer fan.
And he's like, oh, great.
And he's like, she's like, can I get a picture with you, sir?
And so we took a picture with him and he stood and talked to him like he was awesome.
it was a total pain, which is why the tour guide didn't want him because everybody else wanted the picture done with Mark Murphy,
too.
Anyway.
Well, I meant
that.
Your story, Luke's story, it just reconfirms that Packer fans are very lucky that we've had a great run on the organization.
When you look at Bob Harlan, Mark Murphy,
And now I forget the guy's new name.
Anyway, they do a great job.
Policy.
Thank you.
Ed policy.
a
you know, I think Mike Clemens, our sports reporter has said that he
No, you want somebody who's going to be a good
not.
yeah.
I don't
the
and the Hall of
And
Absolutely mean throwing the Brewers.
Brewers are still five games ahead of the Cubs.
Thank you very much.
Quickly, because I want to get to a little bit more politics, but Sunday, first big home opener, big season opener against Detroit.
The Lions, of course, defending the central champions.
What do you think?
Now you got...
Is Jordan off the field
If the weather is better than when you and I went to see the parks with the Lions at Lamobile.
It was so good.
No, no, it wasn't good.
What do I think?
I don't know.
You know, I mean, it's a big game to start the season, right?
Like you want to start it the right way.
I don't have any hate on the Lions.
And I really don't hate the Bears, but man, I hate the Vikings.
But yeah,
Like it's going to say a lot, but
out how
I think I misspoke.
I think I said called the F6 central, which is back from the old days.
It's the NFC North.
I'm thinking National League Central with the Brewers.
That's that's also my mind right now.
Oh, yeah.
I
good.
I think the Parsons is going to be assuming by the here you got to he's got to get a cortisone shot or something.
Everybody took a huge like, oh my God, what's going on?
And his back.
Yeah, because he's got some vertebrate issues and people having back spasms.
No, he's like the legit.
They said what number and everything between four and five or something like that.
So we got
damaged
No, that's the big question.
And I guess the people who claim to know say that all that was looked at, it was cleared.
It's just a run of the mill type of thing that he's going to be OK.
So, but he last I
he plans on playing we are going to have our sport aforementioned sports reporter Mike Clemens in on Friday last half hour of the show He will have the injury report from the Packers by then and we will find out exactly who is in and who is out for the home opener of the Green Bay Packers of which you can listen to live on many of our stations across Wisconsin starting at 1 o'clock on Sunday afternoon a WRCO
100.9 FM in Richland Center, WCQM 98.3 in Park Falls, WRJ in Racine, Kenosha, and WAUH 102.3 FM in Watoma, our newest Green Bay Packer affiliate.
This Sunday, Packers against Detroit, starting at one o'clock with a pregame show.
Looking forward to that.
All right, Trigby, another Packer fan.
We've had the honor of talking to you a couple of times on this program.
Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez, who is still the only officially formally announced candidate for governor in the state of Wisconsin, releasing a statement today saying that she has now completed her third consecutive year of traveling to all of Wisconsin's 72 counties.
Her last stop on the county circuit tour was Wolf.
And the Wolf and Fox winery at Colley Met County just last week.
So there you go, Sarah Rodriguez continues her traveling around the state.
You've talked about this before, and we're not here to endorse anybody.
But I think we both are impressed with Lieutenant Governor Rodriguez as we have been with with State Senator Kelroy.
She's expected to announce, although that official announcement has not come around.
But I think Lieutenant Governor here getting out into all 72 counties, that's a big part of any successful statewide campaign.
I mean, she's going to be a.
Really strong candidate, I think there's gonna be some others in the race You know, I mean it will be interesting to see strategically how the various Democrats who get in the race sort of approach this right because You got to win the primary to be in the dance.
So you got to get a date to the dance, but on the other hand you don't want to
You don't want to have to do what you have to do to get the date and then turn out disqualify yourself from winning the dance contest, right?
And, you know, there is that risk, I think, for the Democrats going too far to the left.
To Pat's regular point, the Republican primary is really a primary about one guy.
Do you get Donald Trump's endorsement?
You know...
I mean, is Tiffany gonna be that guy?
I don't know.
It would be interesting to see.
He was in Labor Day Parade Strictly.
You probably didn't see this out there.
He was in a couple of Labor Day parades.
And I'm not sure if they thought this was just like a funny shtick or whether it's an indication of the way their early campaign is going.
But they took one of his congressional farm signs that said Tiffany for Congress and over Congress
They just kind of did like a homemade sign and marker that said for governor.
And I'm like, really?
Really?
Yeah.
And anyway, he took, he stood next to it and he took a picture of that.
And they thought that was something to like promote.
But yet, but yet officially he's saying he's just thinking about it.
I mean, I just thought that was, I guess it gets people like you like to talk about it, but I just thought, really, that's how you want to start your campaign is kind of a makeshift.
Aside from governor, that doesn't sound very professional.
The seventh, sorry.
You know, I just remember having conversations with her, but when Tom Tiffany first ran, you know, like his first ad was literally, I want to go to Washington to do what Donald Trump wants me to do.
Like, I just don't think he's a deep guy.
Like, you know, yeah, I don't know.
He doesn't,
yeah.
Not
Tom Tiffany.
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I've heard now it's no longer going to be commercial free.
So you subscribe to this red zone thing, and you still got to watch commercials.
I have.
Have you ever subscribed to that?
I have not.
We were in this, my wife was working for the Lithuanian embassy, so they had this awesome apartment overlooking the mall, but it was up on like the 13th floor and we only had this small balcony.
And the first thing I did before she got over there was called direct TV, even though it was a chunk till the season
So when you went out on the balcony, you couldn't see any.
because the dish was up there.
And honestly, if that apartment had been facing the wrong direction, I'd have been like, okay, we're moving.
Because after after all those years to live in overseas having to just listen on the radio.
I was like, there's no way I'm not having the packer games.
Not there's anything wrong with listening on the radio, by the way, especially I like
But
yeah
Which is kind of nice because I
They think you're a genius.
Richland Center over a great UPS drivers who listens to us on the route.
Little, a little salty over Trig V once again.
pick it on the Vikings, Matt says, quote, why is he always trashing the Vikes?
Just where I start to like him again.
Gosh, the Vikes are winning the North, Matt says.
in the- Yes!
Terry!
Terry Park checking in.
Packers on the radio all the way.
That's right.
Wayne Laird, the rock.
Yeah, right.
McGee and Jim Erwin back in the day.
I used to because though for my money, that was the most enjoyable.
I mean, you care of baseball, but boy, Jim Erwin and Max McGee back when the Packers were bad and Max would be, you know, X number of beers in by the third quarter.
And some of the stuff he'd come up with was just fantastic.
Really?
I didn't know
like...
No, I mean, they were just a great broadcasting duo back in the day.
Max McGee and... Do you remember Cheechee's?
Oh, Cheechee?
Yeah, that's right.
He was owner of that.
Part owner, right?
Yeah, he was.
guy.
Yeah.
He
No,
mean the stories he told us some of those early Super Bowl games with Lombardi and Bart Starr and and all those people just just crazy because he it wasn't I remember
I was listening one time and the Packers had this guy, Vince Workman, who was a running guy, and they ran this play.
It was when Homegrown first came where Farve went back and kind of wrapped the ball around.
It was a draw play and Jim Irwin says, what on earth was that?
And Max is like, it's the enema draw.
Jim Rowan's like what?
And he's like, yeah, that's what LaBarda used to call it.
We used to have that in the playbook.
It's the enema draw.
Oh my gosh, that's
the
absolutely.
It's a little bit
No.
more buttoned up today a lot of them, you know,
Yeah, I was totally Romo's pretty good though.
Yes.
Romo is very good Terry says, you know, I covered the team in the 90s run to the Super Bowl.
Well, I didn't know that good times Yeah
That was a that's fantastic.
It was good.
Well, I appreciate you joining us today.
Not exactly a lot of politics, but you know, once a while we got to have some fun, especially when the Packers get ready to kick off the
the season.
More of the
I
a hockey game tonight.
That's a good reminder that we all need to step away once a while from the hyper partisan stuff or the political stuff or even the news and.
and do something fun, whether that's sports, whether it's getting out for a walk or whatever it is, take care of our mental health, take care of each other, right?
And appreciate the fact that we are in a great state like the state of Wisconsin,
Yeah, I
All right, Trigby, we appreciate you, my friend.
Enjoy the Packers kickoff this week.
All right.
Thanks, man.
We'll talk soon.
Talk to you soon.
Come on back.
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