Exploring The Dignity Index (Hour 2)

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Exploring The Dignity Index (Hour 2)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Thu Aug 14, 2025

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Good afternoon, everybody.

Todd Alba, along with Mr. Aaron Zommerns on the board.

It is six minutes past the hour of three o'clock.

Welcome into hour number two of the big program on this Thursday, August 14th, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite sunny skies at the World Headquarters of Civic Media in downtown Madison.

Beautiful day out there.

Zommerns for August.

Brew Crew.

Winning 12 in a row after the big win yesterday at am fam field and that means free George Webb burgers all around How about that?

Never

been to a George Webb and while this is enticing I Don't think it'll be possible for me to go because they don't have any Madison right and it's free from two to six right shows two to four You

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can get a voucher

that I might try right, but we'll see I'll do my best

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JR Radcliffe, who I know appears in our friend Jane McNair's program, McNair on Air, in the Journal Sentinel this afternoon, saying that George Webb for our listeners at WAUK Milwaukee and those who want to make the drive, the restaurant has set us time for, as Amber said, two to six next Wednesday, August 20th at all George Webb locations throughout Wisconsin, 26, pardon me, 23 of them, mostly in the Milwaukee area, but

You can get a voucher available beginning tomorrow Friday August 15th at all locations quote For those that want to savor the moment and enjoy a delicious George Webb hamburger pardon me at a later date The restaurant said in a newsletter so George Webb make it good on the promise only the third time it's happened twice in the regular season first time

And for those that weren't with us at hour one, George Webb, the original founder of George Webb, back when the Braves were playing in Milwaukee.

In the 50s.

In the 50s, he said, I believe that we're going to get a 12 game win streak.

And what we do, we're giving away a big burger promotion.

Never happened under the Braves, but the legend continued.

And so in 1987, the Brewers kicked off the year with 13 straight wins.

And on the 12-1,

George Webb made goodness promise of 30 years and gave away free burgers at George Webb.

And then in 2018, in the postseason, the Brewers are making their way to the NLCS.

They did it again.

George Webb gave away free burgers, and now they're doing it again next Wednesday, August 20th, two until six, or you can get a coupon, a voucher, starting tomorrow.

So Todd.

after tomorrow's show will happen in the car driving down to get a voucher.

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That's right.

And maybe also a burger.

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Maybe we'll get a voucher and a burger after this show tomorrow.

That's not a bad idea, Zommerz.

So there you go.

And by the way, if you would like to go to a Brewer's game, there are hot tickets.

I mean, hot, hot tickets.

Hard to get a ticket right now to a game for the rest of the year.

Be listening tomorrow from six in the morning until six at night.

because for every program across the network, we're going to give you a magical keyword.

And then you text in using the Civic Media app, here's what I'm confused about.

Maybe you know the answer to this.

Are we giving away tickets on every show, or is it just four for the entire day?

It's

four for the entire day.

Todd Allbaugh

Four for the entire day.

All

right, very good.

But if you listen all day, each show has a different keyword, you can get that many entries.

You got it.

So it's like stuff in the ballot box.

Right.

But it's legal.

But it's

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legal.

But it's legal.

So you start out with Pat Crite Low on his Up North Mornings from the Morning Show and North Pole program.

No, it's morning to Pat Crite Low.

You start out with that from six until nine.

Pat will give you a word.

Parker has it sealed in the other room.

He gives it to Pat.

Pat gives it to you.

Then be listening from nine until 11.

with the fantastically talented and wonderful Jane McNair and Greg Bach on the McNair on Air program.

They will give you a word.

Then 11 to 2.

Stick around, buy some Bitcoin, and Hartman'll give you a word.

It's worth it for the word.

And then you come on to our show, if you're still listening, come on to our show.

Zahmer's and I'll do some stupidity and give you a word.

And then stick around for Maggie Dawn, the fantastic Maggie Dawn show from four until six.

And then she'll give you a word.

And you could enter four times throughout the day.

And at the end of the day, the computer will randomly draw one of the correct entries and somebody.

We'll be going to a Milwaukee Brewer's game.

Four tickets in the beautiful cushy, fantastic plush, club level seats, cushion seats.

You got air conditioning concourse behind you.

You could order food from your seat using your phone.

They'll bring it out to you.

Bathrooms just for that area.

Couldn't be nicer.

Zommerz and I both been there.

So if you're saying, man, I really want to get to a brewers game, but I can't afford it or I can't find tickets, listen tomorrow.

Free ticket Friday, but make sure you download the Civic Media app at your Apple or Android device first, because you're going to need that.

The only catch,

they will be for a specific game.

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Specific game.

You have to be able to go to the game we tell you tomorrow.

Also.

And.

It's a statewide

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contest.

You took the words out of my mouth.

I was going to say also.

It's a statewide contest speaking of statewide.

How about Sarah Ashworth and John Moskowski from Wisconsin Public Radio PBS Wisconsin?

Respectively statewide as well We appreciate them for taking their valuable time to come on our show talk a little bit about those federal cuts in the corporation for public broadcasting and For Wisconsin Public Radio and PBS Wisconsin apology.

We had a lot of questions during that segment

and did not get to really any of them.

I guess one we did over the break.

But we'll have them back.

They said they would be willing to come back, so we will do that and we appreciate their time.

A couple of, we'll just address a couple of things here off the text line, some of those questions.

Somebody texted in from Madison saying, let's see here, because we were talking about the fact that you can't find this programming on YouTube.

Somebody says, I disagree, YouTube does do local things.

like the local, you know, ABC, NBC, CBS affiliates.

That's true.

Says also they do provide PBS.

So

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that's that's a good point as well.

If you have YouTube TV, you can if you subscribe to YouTube TV, you can get PBS Wisconsin.

Right.

And they did touch on that a little bit that YouTube can be a vehicle for WPR and PBS Wisconsin to get things to people.

But it's not a replacement for it.

Todd Allbaugh

Right.

And you can't.

get some of those great programs like John's talking about, I was talking about, you're not going to find, you know, being Bucky Badger, the story of all these people that were Bucky Badger over the years.

You're not going to find Jerry Apps on just, you know, random YouTube channels.

Those are things that are produced solely and strictly by PBS Wisconsin.

Chris listening in Blue River.

on WRCE says the cuts to the Corporation of Public Broadcasting is one that cuts to my soul and heart to the core.

I began pledging to WPR when I was a college freshman at UW Richland, a college student.

These morons want to destroy anything academic.

They fear knowledge, unquote, talking about the cuts at the federal level.

And that's something we learned from Sarah and John that

at least a large majority of the cutbacks we're seeing in Wisconsin programming is due to a 10% cut roughly to the monies they received from the federal level.

And, you know, foreseeing that they would do this is why some, one of the reasons why some of that happened before the announcement was made.

Todd Allbaugh

Speaking of you to be Richland, I thought you know, I was involved in musicals plays there.

I can remember painting sets with Marilyn Loft-Hulk.

Great artist great person Marilyn loft talk.

We would paint that when we listen to all things considered or or WHH I Highland, that's the SWPR station in Southwest, Wisconsin, and we talked about Orly Baker He used to be on WRC OWRC early the morning.

Good morning everyone.

This is Orly Baker He was a he was a cromudgy old farmer that they had a radio show

And it was sponsored by a local bank.

And he'd tell some story.

He'd be like, oh, good morning, everyone.

This is Orly Baker.

Well, you know, back when I was a kid, we didn't have anything called.

AI.

Well, you know, if you had to write a letter, Ma just gave you a piece of paper and you sat down with a pen and you wrote a letter.

Those are the things that we did.

Well, kids today, you know, now they got computers and AI and nobody has to think for themselves.

We used to call that a dunce.

They put them in a dunce cap and you put them in the corner and they were a dunce and they didn't know anything.

Well, now you got AI to do all your work.

Well, you know, the people at Boscobel State Bank, they'll do the work for you as well, whether it's your banking, your finance, and they do.

a live read you'd call it for basketball state bank which is now a different bank now but that was that that was the show and he'd have a take on things an old farmer like that.

A little bit of back in my day.

Todd Allbaugh

Right and he's he'd always end at the very end he'd say well time is for now for now this is Orly Baker saying goodbye for today and we would discuss

at length at nausea.

What in the hell does this times for now for now mean?

Doesn't mean that's all the time I have for now, or does it mean I'll talk to you later?

Times for now for now.

This is Orly Baker saying goodbye for today.

I'm sure he was right

Todd Allbaugh

about a

lot.

He was right about Orly

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was right about a lot of things.

Anyway, Robert.

Listing on WLCX Lacrosse says, what did the guests identify as Republican quote unquote leaders reasons for attempting to dismantle public broadcasting, TV and radio?

I guess Robert was probably talking about the Republican leaders in Washington DC that made these cuts.

They really didn't say other than, you know, you had a few people, the Maga side, the Republican leaders that talked about wokeness and all this kind of crap.

But it's tricky also our friend likes to say who went to Badger boys gate state with former governor Scott Walker who also likes to call Walker does University of Wisconsin Madison quote a woke denim indoctrination on

quite the fact that he sent his kids there,

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but he sent his kids there and then puts on motion W Cardinal and white gear and takes a photo and and puts out as his Christmas card so you know I

I personally don't think there's a real reason for these cuts other than just spitefulness and meanness.

And I truly do think that there is a fear of knowledge by at least some of the MAGA leaders in Washington, D.C.

They don't want people to know about history because that could be dangerous.

Because guess what?

When you know a little history, you learn something.

How about that?

All right, what else do we have here Zabers?

We're getting close here.

Should we open the thing or should we wait till we come back?

We can open it up.

All right, here we go.

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The category today, what's worse red cars or yellow cars?

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What did you tile up this time red bar Cheta by rush?

Oh, it's a song about red bar Cheta.

It's a car It's a song about a I thought

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I was like an Italian bruschetta.

Red Bruce.

It's not not this time.

No Sometimes armor says how did I get stuck with this idiot?

No, I appreciate that very creative.

I like that

What's worse, red cars or yellow cars?

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Uh, Texter from Eau Claire, Tammy from Eau Claire.

Apparently, uh, the CFW, the TAP.

Little, uh, I think our engineers are on that.

Thank you, Tammy.

I appreciate the heads up.

So trying to work out the over the air signal up there, beautiful Chippewa Valley, but you can always listen to us.

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And chip will falls what's worse yellow or red cars or yellow cars 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 PJ Watching on the YouTube Says red cars are statistically oh, this is great statistically more likely to be involved in accidents compared to white or yellow cars though

They are safer than black, gray, and silver vehicles.

Wow.

I imagine it's

just because you can see them better.

Todd Allbaugh

True.

I think that, uh, yeah, why have I have a white truck, but they sound like the winter, you know, although with less snow these days, maybe not so much.

Also, PJ says, while red is a vibrant attention grabbing color,

It can also blend with other red elements on the road, like traffic lights or stop signs, potentially leading to increased accident risk.

All right, PJ, appreciate that.

What's worse, red cars or yellow cars?

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Jim, listening to beautiful Brookfield and WAUK.

Jim, red cars or yellow cars, what's worse?

I would say the yellow cars are worse only because they only look good and in certain cars, a very limited, you know, paper car.

Classic example, the 32 Ford that John Milner drove in American graffiti.

That car looked great.

You know, that was a 32 classic Ford.

Your average car that you see on the road today, you got to go with the red.

It stands out more.

It is safer and it just reds more of a universal color that looks nicer and more cars.

Todd Allbaugh

Great answer.

Appreciate it, Jim.

Thank you so much.

Have a great day down there in beautiful Brookfield.

What's the worst?

Red cars or yellow cars?

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Heather, up on the Chippewa Valley, you know, Claire says yellow cars are worse because your favorite youngest niece punches me every time she sees one.

It's cool.

What's to say?

It's cool thing the kids do, I guess.

I tried to beat her to it, but I'm too slow.

Well, now that ties in directly with what Chris is talking about here on WRCE in Blue River.

Chris says red cars are worse only because we use yellow for slug bugs.

Some things never go away, I guess.

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Right, I guess so.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2 what's worse red cars or yellow cars.

Henry, listening on WMDX here in Madison says yellow cars.

Nuff said, Megan, in Sun Prairie on MDX, red cars are more likely to get pulled over, or so I'm told, but yellow is so rare that everyone would know it's yours.

So maybe yellow is worse.

I drive a white car myself, Megan says.

All right, very good.

Matt in Middleton says, MAGA killed the red color for me.

So it'll always be worse now both get too much attention as a driver I think but yellow may cost more to fix red is worse really It affects the cost of a car or fixing a car the color.

I didn't know that What's worse red cars or yellow cars summers?

I I don't know

I think I'm probably going to have to say yellow cars are worse because my dad drives a red truck.

And if he heard me say red cars were worse, I think he would somehow just know.

He would not let you back in his red truck.

No, no.

But actually, I just feel like I agree with our caller before who said that red just looks better on more car designs.

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Brett, listening in beautiful Brown Deer, Wisconsin, via WAUK, says resale.

Red is the easiest color to sell, but it oxidizes more quickly than any other color.

Red is worse because I'm blue at heart.

Oh, nicely done.

That's funny.

I

did not know that oxidizes more.

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Yeah, I didn't know the maybe there's something in the paint, the colorization.

Probably.

I don't know.

Yeah, I'm going to say yellow is worse.

Just I'm nothing really against it, but I do like the look of of red on more vehicles probably than I do yellow.

And also Cardinal and White.

I'm a Badger fan.

So, you know, like a red, I wanted, there was a time when, you know, I bought Dodge trucks for a number of years now.

And I was looking for a red Dodge Ram, but I ended

up,

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but, but I've ended up having one, two or two different white ones, a green and two white.

So

there's nothing quite like a bright yellow bug, though.

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But what's with the kids beating people up?

John, you know punch on the

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eye John, but ash gosh listening to the ISS yellow is worse way too many yellow Dodge Neons or similar crappy cars I feel like I've seen

a lot more red Dodge Neons,

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but I

don't know That's really funny

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All right, that's another edition of what's worse.

We'll have a brand new 140 tomorrow involving football Brady Ewing former Wisconsin badger and NFL player will be here tomorrow.

We'll be talking about preseason college football on a what's worse edition.

Come on back

Charlie Pittman, news director for Civic Media, has some insight into Wisconsin Public Broadcasting.

So come on back and we'll share that with you and more on the Civic Media Pursuing Truth, wherever it may lead and having fun doing it.

Welcome back to the title of all show on the Civic Media Ready Network.

It is now 35 minutes past the hour of three o'clock.

I had to have your long summers on the board.

Finishing up a little bit our earlier discussion.

on the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

Had our guests today, the director of Wisconsin Public Radio, Sarah Ashworth, and John Mizkowski, director of PBS Wisconsin.

Appreciate them being on and appreciate Shaly Pittman, great news director here at Civic Media because one of our listeners earlier had a question just saying, you know, because John and Sarah had said that in their view,

many of the cuts to both of the entities here in Wisconsin is due to a about a 10% cut in federal monies coming from Washington.

And so Robert asked the great question, well, what's, what kind of a hair have they got up their rear end out there in Washington, the Republicans against public broadcasting?

My way of putting it.

Now, Robert asked it nicer than that.

And this is number, the best part about this is we have at least one listener.

which I really appreciate.

Shelly Pittman listening in and here she's she's Shelly on the spot and immediately and I did not know this until Shelly just sent it to us that apparently this stuff about public broadcasting was in the big project 2025 thing.

Here's what she writes.

She says every part of me.

This is an excerpt.

from she has a page number number and everything, page 246 of project 2025 from the Heritage Foundation, which of course we talked about this.

Jane McNair talked about this.

A lot of us talked about this ad nauseam to the point people said, shut up, quit talking about project 2025.

That ain't really going to happen.

They're just saying that they'll never do that stuff.

Well,

from page 246 of project 2025 and I quote Every Republican president since Richard Nixon has tried to strip the corporation of public broadcasting CPB of taxpayer funding That is significantly not just because it's significant not just because it means that for half a century Republican presidents have failed to accomplish what they set out to do

But also because Nixon was the first president in office when national public radio NPR and the broadcast, pardon me, the public broadcasting service, PBS, which the CPB funds went on the air, unquote.

It goes on to a reasoning later on in this, quote, a demonstrated pattern of bias.

Conservatives.

will thus reward a president who eliminates this tyrannical situation.

PBS and NPR do not even bother to run programming that would attract conservatives.

A Pew research demonstrated in 2014 that 25% of PBS's audience is mostly liberal.

and 35% is consistently liberal.

That is 60% liberal compared to 15% conservative.

And it goes on from there.

Later on says that may be an acceptable business model for MSNBC or CNN, but not for a taxpayer subsidized broadcaster, unquote.

I mean, this is just wild.

And also, Shali notes that what I just read to you,

That is not in the section about the FCC written by Commissioner Brendan Carr, but by Mike Gonzalez, senior fellow at Heritage Foundation and a former journalist.

How about that?

After every movies, CPB funding, it also recommends revoking the non-commercial status of stations.

That's the type of broadcasting license they have that is different from the ones that civic media uses other industry experts Shali says that she's spoken to say it's probably a lot less likely to happen because CPB cuts are already devastated and accomplished many of the goals of the heritage foundation How about that I mean

So again, I think it's unfortunately a great reminder and thank you again to Shali That all these things that were in project 2025 that a lot of people said Todd was playing chick a little Coming true.

We've talked about this before by the way The project 2025 tracker we mentioned it before.

Yep.

We are now up to 46 percent

40 sick nearly half of the items in project 2025 have now been implemented and put into place by the Trump administration.

So think about that next time you go to the polls.

We weren't just Josh and you, as they say, we were.

And remember, I was down there in Milwaukee, the Republican National Convention.

You walked in the hall and the first thing you saw was a welcome to the Republican National Convention and in bigger letters, Heritage Foundation.

With a cut out of Donald Trump, you could have your picture taken.

And they're one of the same.

Heritage Foundation is running this thing.

It's running Trump.

Many thanks to Charlie.

41 minutes now past the hour of three o'clock.

Politico.com headline AI launches across the government or is the Trump folks like to say a one great state's great steak sauce.

Oh, yes.

If you're in steak sauces federal this is political federal employees will soon be able to try out popular artificial intelligence tools part of a controversial Trump administration effort to automate more of the government.

The U.S.

General Services Administration, GSA, said this morning, it will launch USAI.

That is real.

USA in capital letters, small lowercase i. They claim it to be a secure platform designed to let employees experiment with popular AI models made by open AI, Anthropic, Google and Meta.

The website is framed as a way to advance the Trump administration's broader AI action plan and deliver, quote, a competitive advantage to the American people, unquote, according to GSA Deputy Administrator Stephen Eichen, who put out a statement this afternoon.

The initiative comes at a time when AI threatens to displace federal workers whose jobs are already under siege.

By the Trump administration's department of government efficiency the made-up department that my my editorializing the political story Because it's not an actual agency Congress never approved it.

It wasn't funding.

It was doji Elon Musk was heading it up.

He's gone and so is the quote-unquote big balls employee That's what he called himself back to the political story the emerging technology is also developing a clip

That the government known for its bureaucratic process and uneven tech Adopt adoption rates has historically struggled to keep pace with And it goes on from there.

Look, I worked in government I fully admit and understand that some government agencies can be slow and if Overseen by trustworthy normal administration there might be room for this But I'm telling you

Based on the track record so far of this administration.

I wouldn't be logging into anything that they oversee or have control over or anything else We know that Elon Musk already basically broken has our social security numbers all of our stuff got put on the dark web China has it everybody anybody wants it It's out there Steve and Milwaukee

Texting in says, Heritage Foundation's been getting a lot of protesters visiting their offices along with Fox News offices.

And for good reason.

Well, maybe people are starting to wake up and smell the coffee, as they say.

We'll keep following that.

As I say, I am convinced I will meet my death, my demise at the pause of an AI automated mechanical dog.

I just think that's how I'm gonna go.

If something's gonna go awry, I'm gonna be trying to, you know, feed it something or take it on a leash and it will turn on me and it'll be all over.

I, you know, Todd, I think immersion therapy might be the key here.

I think I need to find someone who works in robotics to bring a dog to have on your show, a robot dog.

Todd Allbaugh

That would scare the bejesus out of me.

I would not want it anywhere near me.

You can start with it across the room.

All right.

I want to get to this because I messed it up yesterday.

I was I was loopy.

I was tired.

My glasses were bad Because this is really important the dignity index.

This is fascinating to me the dignity index Tim Shriver is former head of the Special Olympics, which is founded by his mother Eunice Kennedy Shriver.

He's also the son of the Peace Corps founding leader Sarge Shriver.

Tim realized that we Americans need to treat each other better, especially

in our political discourse.

He and others came up with the dignity index.

It measures the speech of our political leaders and others, even ourselves.

It's an eight point index that gives high grades for respectful discourse that affirms the value of the other person.

It gives low grades for divisive discourse that shows contempt.

By focusing on the speech and not the speaker,

The dignity index is designed to draw our attention away from the basis and biases of partisan politics and toward the power we each have to heal our country and each other.

Let me step away.

This is fantastic.

Because it's simply looking at the words and not who's necessarily saying them, takes the personality out of it.

Back to the story.

So level one on the dignity index, level one.

escalates from violent words to violent actions.

It's a combination of feeling the other side is less human and calling for or approving violence.

An example, quote, they're not even human.

It's our moral duty to destroy them before they destroy us, unquote.

That'd be a level one example.

Level two, accuses the other side, not just of doing bad or being bad, but promoting evil.

Example.

Those evil people and they're even going to ruin everything if we let them let us let us or it's us or them unquote Level three attacks the other side's moral character.

Not just their compatibilities or competence Here's an example of level three.

We're the good people and they're the bad people as us versus them Unquote I've heard a lot of that on both sides of the political spectrum level four

mocks and attacks the other side's background, their beliefs, their commitment, their competence, their performance.

Here's an example, level four, quote, we're better than those people.

They really, they don't really belong.

They're not one of us, unquote.

Look at this index, the dignity index, level five, listens to the other side's point of view and respectfully explains their own goals.

Views and plans.

Here's an example of five.

Quote, the other side has a right to be here and a right to be heard.

They belong here too.

Much different tone, right?

Level six sees it as a welcome duty to work with the other side to find common ground and to act on it.

Here's level six.

Quote, we always talk to the other side searching for values and interests we share.

Unquote pretty good gonna come back finish this up the dignity index because I think we really listen to this and Try to implement it We're gonna prove our understanding of each other our friends and our neighbors come on back wrap up the dignity index on the other side You listen to the all-ball show across Wisconsin on the civic media already know

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As they continue on without Jordan love for at least a couple more weeks, Malik Willis at the helm for the Packers as love recovers from that thumb injury.

And then another great addition of the Maggie Dawn show every afternoon from two until four joined Maggie and her guests, always informative.

And then Mr. Pete Schwabba, our friend, our colleague, always entertaining.

He was a little snarky last night.

He was a little, a little irrit maybe the heat got to him.

I forget what he was talking about, but it made me laugh.

Maybe I'm like, oh, he was I it was a problem.

Maybe you were Conrad did it.

He was

the cookie dough.

Todd Allbaugh

He was snarky about cookie dough.

Yeah, I made that that's

Todd Allbaugh

that's been pretty good You know I at first that cookie dough he was he was snarky about the fact that cookie dough has been put into ice cream

Yes.

And I will say at first, when Conrad told me that that was a discussion, I was like, I guess I'll make this into a promo, but I morally disagree.

And then I actually listened to what Pete had to say.

And you know what?

He won me over a little bit.

He's not wrong.

Todd Allbaugh

I don't

think he's

Todd Allbaugh

wrong.

I don't think he's wrong about that.

So Pete Schwab but tonight from from six until eight brewers off today, traveling to Chicago, they'll get back underway, try to make it 13, which would tie a franchise record from 87 in terms of wins in a row.

It'll be the Brewers at Cincinnati.

Game time starts at 5.05 across many of these stations.

And then first pitch a little after 5.30.

Local time here in Wisconsin.

Again, the Brewers won 12 in a row last night.

George Webb announcing this afternoon they're going to give free burgers away at all George Webb restaurants from two until six next Wednesday, August 20th.

You can also pick up a voucher we call coupons back home.

tomorrow at all locations as well want to finish this uh dignity index up this is great started by tim schriver former head of the special olympics his mom was unis kennedy schriver of course and we were on number seven here's number seven number seven wants to fully engage the other side discussing the deepest disagreements they have to see what breakthroughs they can find here's an example number seven

out of eight.

Quote, we fully engage with the other side discussing even values and interests we don't share, open to admitting mistakes or changing our minds.

Now, level eight sees oneself in every human being, refusing to hate anyone and offering dignity to everyone.

Here's an example of eight.

Quote, each one of us is born with inherent worth

So we treat everyone with dignity no matter what unquote The dignity index is a starting place to ease divisions prevent violence and actually solve problems Violence like the shootings that keep happening around the country We could do more than thoughts and prayers the dignity index is one of many positive steps happening

across America, find it all on the web.

Of course, www.dignity.us.

I just Google it up as well.

Boss likes to say dignity.

D I G N I T Y dignity.

Dignity.us.

I think that's really good.

That's a that's a do I always practice that?

No.

But I wish to thank you, Zomeras, for putting on the screen.

We should all, myself included, strive to do more of that.

By the way, we'll try to get to some of this tomorrow, Zomeras.

Don't let me forget.

August recess for Congress.

The peer freshman congressman, Republican Tony Weed off to Israel for a junket.

Scottie Fitzgerald, congressman, Republican Juno off to a quote unquote bipartisan trip to Brussels, London and Dublin.

to discuss European issues.

Meanwhile, Democrat U.S.

Senator Tammy Baldwin, using the break to go on a statewide fighting for Wisconsin family's tour to hear from Wisconsinites about the impact of Trump administration's policies.

That's why she keeps getting reelected.

Also, I'll give credit a little bit to a Republican of Jamesville, U.S.

Congressman Brian Stiles, says he'll continue holding in-person town halls despite

the recent ruckus meeting he hosted in Elkhorn.

This all from WisPolitics.com.

Meanwhile, out in Washington DC, Trump takes control of the Metropolitan Police of Washington DC.

Their mayor, Mayor Bowser, is going to Martha's Vineyard for the evening, according to CBS, for a quote unquote, prior family commitment.

And it will be returning to DC tomorrow.

What's up with these Democratic mayors?

I don't

Todd Allbaugh

know.

Mayor Bowser DC going to Martha's Vineyard.

The the bass mayor of Los Angeles took that safari trip to Africa while Los Angeles was burning last year.

Don't these people have any sense of just the moment?

Duty, urgency.

Todd Allbaugh

Well, I can't tell you how many times I worked in politics.

My bosses, something would happen in the state or the district and they'd say, well, I guess I'm not going to my family on vacation this weekend.

Right.

Exactly.

It's part of the

job

Todd Allbaugh

as part of the job and it's terrible optics so you got DC being taken over and Mayor Bowser says I gotta go to Martha's vineyard

You know my city is being taken over but a great look that's

Todd Allbaugh

unfortunate something more important Didn't have breakfast this morning how to get my teeth cleaned at the dentist today

I love I by the way, I really like my dentist and my hygienist dr. Rob Bradley and Jeanette the hygienist and so first choice dental by the way over on Junction Road and so I had I couldn't eat breakfast because I you know can't eat for a while and I was I had some errands from before I came in and I passed a Culver's and I thought wait a minute new concrete mixers with breakfast cereal.

I had a lucky charms

custard, concrete mixer.

Really?

Todd Allbaugh

Delicious.

Welcome to magically delicious.

That's pretty good.

That's a pretty good one.

Todd Allbaugh

All right.

Many thanks to Sarah Ashworth of Wisconsin Public Radio, John Miskowski of PBS Wisconsin, Zomers on the Board, all of you for listening.

Maggie Dawn is next.

This is Todd saying whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in, do not give up.

Keep banging your drum.

We'll see you tomorrow with Brady Ewing.

Have a great night.

Bye-bye.

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