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Good afternoon, everybody taught all about long.
Mr. Aaron Zomers, our producer and engineer on the board six minutes past the hour of three o'clock on this Thursday, August 7th, 2025.
It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.
Glad to have you along here at the World Headquarters of Civic Media in downtown Madison.
Some high puffy clouds can actually see him a little bit today.
Still smoking the air bombers and I've quit because I sound I look I sound like a fool most of the time I don't need any help in that department But I keep saying well wait a couple and look into the forecast it looks like it's gonna move out.
I'm not saying I'm Because it's never right
Check
listings.
It's not moving out.
The smoke isn't moving out.
It's still here.
Wow.
They may lock you out after that.
It's going to be here probably a few more days.
Just have to do the best we can.
Looks like Southwest Wisconsin today is going to be under the worst of it.
North.
East Wisconsin is better due to smoke today, but those wildfires continued.
And again, my apologies for the voice, but did our show up and it will cross yesterday outside.
And I didn't really feel it happening.
But boy, I woke up this morning and I was getting the old frog in the throat there.
You know, you
I don't think it was that bad.
I think it's just
though.
Maybe I don't know.
I'm not a health care expert coming up at the bottom of the hour.
And this time of this, I'll be accurate.
I did myself in last hour because I didn't read the notes.
And Casey Hicks is going to be here at three thirty five, not two thirty five.
335 Wisconsin Conservation Voters Organization.
Gonna be talking about the outdoors, speaking of the outdoors activities and legislation coming up.
Um, if the legislature ever comes back into session, no, they will.
They'll come back after the summer.
So Casey Hicks will be here talking conservation at the bottom of the hour.
Boy, Howdy was driving through Richland Center last night, coming back from La Crosse.
and stopped at mom's a minute say hi to catch the last two and a half innings of the Milwaukee Brewers game.
It was on FS one last night of all things.
And so I got to watch the last two and a half innings or so.
Brewers are continue on the big win streak.
Five to four win last night.
The brew crew over the Atlanta Braves swept them in Atlanta.
Brewers off today.
Travel day.
I heard Lane Grindel say he was going.
Grills them using her brats today in his backyard.
Well, I could use it using her brought right now that is that that's that time of year.
I love brats.
is.
Yeah.
Tomorrow.
Brewers will be back in action at home in the friendly confines of Ampham Field against the floundering New York Mets.
They've won.
They've lost like eight of nine or something like that.
Another big losing streak nearly got no hit by Cleveland.
And they're like, they gave him a couple of nights ago.
Anyway, the Brewers against the Mets tomorrow night, you can hear it on many of these stations starting at 635 with the broadcast start, which means the first pitch will be on or about 7 p.m.
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All right, Thomas.
It's 11 past the hour of three o'clock time once again for what's worse.
Let's go Time once again for what's worse nothing to give away no prize money involved But it is your chance to have your voice heard on all ten news talk sports stations across the civic media talk network So here's the deal as I said we were lacrosse I stopped original center but before that I got
I was going to say hangry, but I wasn't angry.
I was pretty chill.
I just got hungry.
And so I, you know, I'm driving through a beautiful Veracruz in the Southwest of the Driftless.
And of course I want my culvers.
And I see the color.
I pulled the Veracruz.
And I ate.
Well, because it was so nice out, I ate outside, probably didn't help my voice.
But anyway, outside and I'm sitting there and on highway 14 going south to north.
Two big Chick-fil-A trucks with the red branding red white branding on the side One will look like a Just like a straight truck no windows or anything and the second one would look like a bus converted into a mobile restaurant
bigger than that And they like that like the the ventilation like that they're cooking Chick-fil-A in this truck and so these two Chick-fil-A vehicles slow down
And they put their bodies like, no way.
And they turned into culvers.
And I'm like, are these people just being jerks?
Or what's going on?
No, no, no.
They parked in the back.
And they're very polite about it.
They parked in the back of the Culver's parking lot in Verroqua with their big Chick-fil-A trucks.
And about eight guys in their Chick-fil-A uniform get out, go in, order Chick-fil-A, order culvers, and sit down and eat.
was just immune because of course Culver's just came out with their new chicken sandwiches, which are delicious by the way
And I thought, well, here, these guys, these Chick-fil-A boys, they're like, oh, you know, we want real chicken, stop at Culver's.
Because I mean, I think there's a Chick-fil-A right in Milwaukee area.
There's one here in Madison, but, you know, past Madison towards the West, I don't, you probably can't get a Chick-fil-A until you get to Eau Claire.
So it's not a regular occurrence in Southwest Wisconsin.
So it got me thinking, what's worse, Culver's or Chick-fil-A?
Culver's or Chick-fil-A, 855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.
What's worse, Culver's or Chick-fil-A can also text us on the Civic Media app and you can text it on the various streams.
Jeff Perry, our friend and ongoing contributor.
Texting in and Facebook says my son works at Culver's and he said they often get customers wearing their McDonald's uniforms.
I think this is great.
What's worse Culver's or Chick-fil-A 855-752-4842 855-752-4842 or you could text us on the Civic Media app like Brian up in beautiful Marinette, Wisconsin.
listening on to be MDX and this one is easy.
I don't eat hate chicken.
Now when Brian is alluding to here, then I get it.
So Chick-fil-A's owners, founders, uh, look, uh, very religious people apparently, which I got no problem with that.
But in my opinion, they take it too far in a, they say they, they're not open on Sunday.
So Chick-fil-A closed on Sunday.
Hey,
business.
Whatever you want to do.
However, much like the Hobby Lobby people, they have given money towards anti LGBTQ groups and have spoken out against folks like me who happen to be gay.
And I just I'm not cool with that.
So I'm not weird about it, where I think I've eaten Chick-fil-A three times my life.
So like if I'm with a group of people like really want to Chick-fil-A, I'm not going to be like that guy.
I don't eat that.
But do I sneak it out?
No.
Chick-fil-A.
I don't want to put words in my mouth.
I wouldn't go as far as if it was to me.
Hate.
But certainly it's been known that they don't.
They'll like people like me, which I always find interesting because on the rare occasion I've been around in Chick-fil-A, whatever, it seems like there are people from my group working there, which I find odd.
Tony, watching on YouTube, says, I hate the long lines of Chick-fil-A.
Also, the chicken is overrated.
Culver's is the best fast food burger in the country.
There you go.
Nailed it.
I was just going to say.
The three or four or the two or three times I've had a Chick-fil-A.
I'll say this highly overrated in my opinion
the you know, it's better is the The one on State Street down there at the end that all the college kids go to Raisin canes.
that's it
Yeah, now they're the raisin Keynes I got no problem.
I mean their chicken is legit good in my opinion
But if it's between Culver's and Chick-fil-A.
Come on.
The Chick-fil-A is overrated.
It's all about marketing.
Even the Chick-fil-A workers know it.
That's the point.
That's the point is that I saw it.
You don't have to read it in the paper.
You don't have to go online.
You don't have to look at fake news.
I saw it with my own eyes.
I videotaped it.
I put it on my socials and you can watch it for yourself.
The Chick-fil-A people vote with their pocketbooks and their feet, and the Chick-fil-A employees, eight of them, pulled in last night into Culver's and Varroqua, and they ate their meal, not at anywhere else, but at Culver's.
Good old Culver's, founded by Craig and Lee Culver, in Southwest Wisconsin, in Sauk City, you can still go there and eat at the original one.
What's worse?
It's a silly question, I know.
What's worse, Culver's or Chick-fil-A?
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2-8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
Brooke, our president's Brooke.
Jim in Brookfield.
Culver's is far better, says Jim, than Chick-fil-A.
Not even close.
Culver's really is a higher quality, made fresh, fast food, while Chick-fil-A is a mass produced, wilted salads and sandwiches that fall apart.
Besides, Chick-fil-A has right wing ownership.
Brooke.
Jim field I like you saying that Jim in Brookfield I Was so I was so smitten by the message Jim.
I'm sorry.
I agree with you I agree Dana in the cross Wow Dana in the cross referring to Chick-fil-A is quote-unquote bigot burgers Mark mark I'm very amused by this mark in prayer sack Chick-fil-A
Sucks compared to culprits Brett in brown deer to be a UK when I used to go to doing do what I did door-dash I got in order to deliver McDonald's food through the driver's side Through to the driver's side drive-through at the Taco Bell
funny now see I
I managed restaurants.
I managed to tilt a kilt.
I wasn't going to eat in other food when I was working at the kilt.
I mean, I wouldn't go into another restaurant with my kilt shirt on.
I try to be loyal to my employer.
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My voice is a little raspy because I was out in the smoke yesterday in La Crosse.
22 past the hour of three o'clock.
I was driving back from La Crosse after being in the smoke all day yesterday, apparently.
And I stopped at Viroqua last night.
It's a beautiful night.
A picture perfect summer evening in Southwest Wisconsin.
I was hungry and I pulled into the culverts in Viroqua right across from the fairgrounds where they're going to have Larry Fest.
Ever been to Larry Fest up there?
That's another bottle of wine or chicken sandwich.
But anyway, I was at Viroqua, so I pulled into the culverts.
And I'm eating there out on the picnic table at Culver's and two big Chick-fil-A trucks pull in like a mobile restaurant type of deal and they parked in the Culver's parking lot said Chick-fil-A crossed it and then Eight guys come on in and they order with their uniforms on from Chick-fil-A and sit down at Culver's Apparently they like the chicken sandwich is better at Culver's and who could blame them?
And so my question today, what's worse, Culver's or Chick-fil-A?
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
Gordy, our old friend Gordy Kopke.
I'm sure they're getting rid of.
The greenhouse will be open for mums soon down there in the town of Dunn outside of Oregon.
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Gordy copied, copied his greenhouse.
Gordy says the last time at Chick-fil-A for me was 23 years ago in Florida.
And I was not impressed after I learned of their attitude toward my gay friends and relatives.
My shadow has not graced their door.
Took my grandkids to Culver's last night.
Their roast beef sandwich is incredible, and the custard is, as well, a fave of the family.
I couldn't agree more, Gordy.
I recently had the roast beef sandwich at Culver's.
It was fantastic.
855-752-4842-855-752-4842.
Karen, listening in the beautiful town of Wanaki, the only Wanaki in the world.
Karen, Culver's, or Chick-fil-A.
What's
worse?
because if you go online and check the chemicals in the Chick-fil-A, if you're sure those little bites that they fell on a cop, you'll never eat them.
You're saying that Chick-fil-A is worse?
Yes, because go look it up and see the chemicals they put in there that they make it taste really
healthy.
Really?
So you're saying that the taste of a Chick-fil-A is based on chemicals?
Well...
Go
look
it
up, and
you'll see.
No, I'm not arguing.
I'm just saying.
Yeah, yeah.
The couple of times I had Chick-fil-A in my life, I thought it was overrated.
I think the Culver's chicken sandwiches are much better.
They're juicier.
They're more tender.
They taste fresher, in my opinion.
Yeah, that's because you're saying the Chick-fil-A is tender?
No, no.
I'm saying the Culver's is more tender, in my opinion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I think Culver's is better, and I don't go in Chick-fil-A.
I have that once.
I look it up, and it's...
And
you have a great Culver's out there, kind of towards the edge of town of Wanaki.
I've eaten
there many a time.
It's a great place.
All right, Karen, thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
Have a great day and beautiful Wanaki.
What's worse, Culver's or Chick-fil-A?
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
Cam in Appleton says, had Culver's for an easy anniversary dinner last night.
Year eight, here we come.
Chick-fil-A.
Yes, congratulations came.
Chick-fil-A is the worst.
Last time we went, they told us they could not make a salad because no one on the shift knew how.
Well, first as Robert says congratulations on eight years and what better place to take your significant other than the Culver's for a great anniversary dinner Diane listening in Madison and MDX says I was once stuck for hours in the airport in Dallas with friends The only restaurant open in the area was Chick-fil-A.
We refused to eat there even though we were ready to murder each other because we were so angry
That's great, Diane.
God love you.
That's fantastic.
Ali, listing in Madison says to Chick-fil-A, sell left wings or only right wings.
that's that's fantastic 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 TJ and Osh gosh listening to the ISS Says it'd be funny to see culvers use that video of the Chick-fil-a people eating it culvers in their advertisements a couple of people asked me about this I Did not take video or a picture of the
Chick-fil-A employees eating, because I thought it could get a fired.
And so
I took the truck outside.
I thought that was fair game, but I didn't.
I wasn't going to invade somebody's personal
All right, Zombers, what's worse, Culver's or Chick-fil-A?
Yes, it's not even close.
It's a ridiculous question, but I thought
excuse to
Oh, Heather on Facebook says, no contest, Chick-fil-A is worse, but I'll say every Chick-fil-A I have been at had a very diverse and friendly staff.
Well, that's what's confusing to me because their politics, their money is very hateful towards people who are...
Who are not straight but yet they seem to employ a lot of different people but it no contest Culver's Culver's is better.
All right All right, we get time.
That's what I got a beef real quick Zomers.
We got a peacock update.
Here we go little Katy Perry if you will All right, yes Those you know, I do not like peacock but because now so many University of Wisconsin sports
are broadcast only on Peacock.
I was just checking my email over the break.
My Peacock's going up from 799 to 1099.
And the broadcast quality, there are better broadcasts being done at the University of Wisconsin, Oshkosh and Platteville than there are on Peacock.
But will I pay the additional $3 a month to watch Badger Sports?
Sadly, yes.
All right, that's a peacock update.
That's what's worse.
Come on back.
We'll talk conservation right now.
A farm update for great friends at Midwest Farm Report.
It's the all ball show across Wisconsin for a Thursday on the civic media.
Welcome back to the top of all show on the civic radio network.
35 minutes now past the hour of.
three o'clock.
Glad to have you along on a Thursday, August 7th.
Zommer's been in the tune on the board, by the way, one late entry Zommer's on that what's worse today, Culver's or Chick-fil-A.
Our friend Rob Wheat down in Monroe, Wisconsin, beautiful Green County.
We were talking about that I had seen the Chick-fil-A guys pull into Culver's last night and eat with their big equipment.
And somebody earlier suggested, well, you should give that to Culver's for a
A promotional piece nice and well, that's fine.
I don't want to get anybody in trouble Rob says too late I've already shared it with with the culvers folks so they can take advantage That's the all I don't want anything for it except you I'll take a plate ice cream or a car.
She's called custard Yeah, I go along with that So thanks Rob.
We appreciate that.
We'll we'll see what Mojo has to say all right 36 now past the hour of three o'clock
Conservation always a great topic of this show as an outdoors person, although it's not affecting my voice because of the smoke.
Always happy to have people on the show talking about conservation from Wisconsin conservation voters.
Casey Hicks joins us now via StreamYard.
Casey, thanks for thanks for coming in.
Where are you joining us from today?
So thank you for having me excited to be here.
I'm calling in from Green Bay.
Green I'm going to shuttle later on tonight.
It's a beautiful part of the state as well Do you know if you don't want to that's fine to wait in our foolishness, but do you want you have a pick what's worse Culver's or Chick-fil-a?
Oh Chick-fil-a is worse I'm a Culver's guy through and through
God.
Love you.
See that's that's exactly I think most good Wisconsinites are but we had to I thought it was weird that the Chick-fil-a people would stop with their truck and eat
Culvers, but it was also charming and endearing all at the same time because apparently even the competition thinks that the culvers things are
better
My go-to at Culver's is always getting the chicken strips.
And I've been doing that way before Chick-fil-A ever stepped foot in Wisconsin.
They're tender.
They're juicy.
They're fantastic.
All right.
Enough of my foolishness.
Let's get to Wisconsin Conservation Voters, as we do.
And thank you for playing along, by the way.
Casey, tell us a little bit about yourself, where did you grow up, and how did you get involved with Wisconsin Conservation Voters?
Yeah.
So I grew up in a small town in Southeast Wisconsin, Random Lake.
Uh, feel free to make jokes about the name if you want.
No, I've been to randomly.
Oh, you have.
Not
randomly.
Can I ask what
brought you there?
I used to travel a lot for sports broadcasting and stuff like that.
And, uh, yeah, didn't spend a lot of time, but it was through there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we, uh, our high school had a very good wrestling team that I was not a part of,
but that was why we used
to cover high school.
Anyway.
Okay,
yeah, perfect.
Yeah, so I grew up in Random Lake, Wisconsin.
I went to University of Wisconsin, Green Bay, majored in political science and minored in democracy and justice studies.
I finished up school in 2017 and have been here about a little over 10 years at this point.
I live here with my wife and my son and our dog.
Her son is nine months old at this point.
Well, congrats.
And thank you.
Yeah, we've been loving every minute of it and he's just growing up way too fast.
But I came to Wisconsin Conservation Voters first as a volunteer all the way back in 2014, I believe.
Now deputy director, but he was at that time, our Northeast organizer, Seth Hofmeister was standing on the corner of the Broadway Farmers Market in Green Bay collecting signatures for a petition and I signed one.
And then he said, thanks for signing.
How about you come to our office opening next week?
And so I said, yes.
And I got immediately put to work because he asked if I could volunteer at the signing table for people as they were coming in.
So.
That was it, my first experience.
After that, I would come in and help to make phone calls and do phone banking on different policies that WCV was trying to pass at the time, like the leading on lead bill.
Ultimately, after I graduated college, I served a little bit in the AmeriCorps as an AmeriCorps VISTA in Brown County for local nonprofit called Achieve Brown County.
And then a position opened up at Wisconsin Conservation Voters to be Northeast Organizer in Green Bay.
And I immediately jumped on the opportunity and was lucky enough to be offered the position.
And then the very first thing that I did was immediately go to work to work on the special election in Senate District 1 in Door County in Kiwani County back in 2018.
So that was basically my very first thing that I did with WCV.
And I've loved it ever since.
I've been with the organization for seven years at this point.
And prior to my current position being federal government affairs manager, I was organizing director, managing our team of field organizers across the states.
for a few years.
And like I said, previous to that was Northeast organizer here in Green Bay.
Well, that's great congrats and growing up a random lake.
Were you an outdoors person?
Were you doing hiker or kayaker, fish or whatever?
Yeah, I always grew up going out camping with my family in the summers.
I'm an only child, so it was just my parents and I going to different campgrounds.
My dad grew up the same way and kind of passed that down to me.
was lucky enough to, you know, being in Random Lake, you know how close it is or having been to Random Lake, you know how close it is to Lake Michigan.
So that was a great inspiration as well.
I also did Cross Country in high school.
So just tons of outdoor opportunities in that area and just all across Wisconsin, of course.
I think it's great when you can meld your passion with what you do for work because, you know, in my opinion, it's like doing radio.
I mean, oftentimes it's like, really, they're paying me for this.
Don't tell the people to pay me, but I mean, that's kind
think it's great that you took your passion and are doing something with it.
So tell us a little bit about, by the way, we're talking to Casey Hicks.
He is the federal government affairs manager for Wisconsin Conservation Voters joining us from beautiful Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Casey, tell us a little bit about from...
people across the state that might not have heard of it, what are Wisconsin conservation voters as an organization and what are the kind of the top two maybe things that you folks will work on?
So our mission is to engage voters to protect Wisconsin's environments.
Do that in several different ways.
Very first on its head when I say we engage voters to protect Wisconsin's environment.
We do exactly that.
We work on elections to elect
people into office who care about conservation, care about tackling climate change, investing in clean energy, protecting drinking water, and protecting our right to vote and upholding our democracy because without the right to vote, without the ability to share our voice and government, we can't protect those other things that I mentioned.
So we'll work to get people elected into office and then we work to hold them accountable and help them to pass good sound environmental policy.
and as well try to stop bad environmental policy from happening.
Which in Wisconsin with our current state legislature has been the case more often than not trying to stop bad things, but we're also very lucky in having Governor Tony Evers doing good work in the office that he's holding and trying to support him as well.
We also work at the local, state, and federal levels.
working to pass good policy in all those different areas of governments, done a lot of work with cities, counties, school boards, local municipalities to set up clean energy commitments for them to reach 100% clean energy by 2050 or in some cases sooner than 2050 because it's really important that at every level of government we're working to protect the environment and work to tackle climate
change.
I love the passion and you know, I've done this for a long time as someone who grew up in Southwest Wisconsin.
I really think that these issues that you folks are working on at Wisconsin conservation voters, they really shouldn't be hyper political in terms of partisan politics because when you go camping.
You know, people aren't wearing red or blue hats.
I mean, they're just enjoying going camping and tenting and, and, and playing charts or whatever.
At least they played charts when I was growing up.
They probably can't play that anymore.
But anyway.
It
banned, I'm
sure.
It isn't really banned.
Or at least you can't sell them.
They're not metal.
Well, mom still has someone in the garage.
But anyway, people aren't just out there having fun when you go fishing.
Nobody's nobody's you know a very few people are saying hey look at that great crappie by the way Who'd you vote for my point is everybody is?
Using the outdoors and therefore protecting that for everyone really shouldn't be a hyperpartisan event am I wrong about that?
No, you're exactly right about that.
We all benefit from the outdoors.
We all enjoy the outdoors.
We're all impacted by what?
may or may not be happening to the environment and what we're doing to protect it.
Especially when it comes to climate change, it knows no boundaries.
Everyone is affected in varying ways.
Of course, we have folks who are more vulnerable to the effects of climate change, who feel it much more.
And I think it's our duty and obligation to make sure that we're working to protect those folks along with everyone else too.
I think is inextricably connected to the environment.
We're talking with Casey Hicks federal government affairs manager for Wisconsin conservation voters So Casey this this big bill that went through Congress and Trump signed in president Trump signed into law very confusing for a lot of us here I think on Wisconsin and what we like to do on this show is try to look at those bigger things and say hey How does this actually affect us back in Wisconsin?
And I know one of the things that you all have been very passionate about in the EPA is the
talk to us a little bit about that couple of minutes here.
We'll take a break and we'll finish it up on the other side.
Yeah, so to keep it real simple, the engagement finding is the most important tool that the Environmental Protection Agency and the US government has to protect us from climate change.
It comes from a 2007 Supreme Court ruling from Massachusetts v EPA that said that EPA has the requirement, the obligation.
to protect people in the environment from a mix of greenhouse gas emissions.
They listed six carbon dioxide, methane, plural carbons being just some of them.
But essentially saying that those are all pollutants that EPA is required to protect us from underneath the Clean Air Act.
So, again, I just got a couple minutes left here.
By the changes of the EPA, what this really means, and I know that the current conditions are from wildfires in both the United States and Canada, by the way, folks.
Can you give us an example of one of the changes that's going to have a direct impact on Wisconsin's day-to-day life?
I think first and foremost is people are going to be feeling it in their pocketbooks in so many different ways.
Already as a result of the You mentioned it's going to be compounded Dangerment finding possibly taken away and I should mention as well vehicle emission standards are also Being proposed to be taken away and so what that means for the average Wisconsinite is the car that you have now is Much more efficient gets many more miles per gallon than the car that you probably had 10 years ago
unless you have the same car that you had from 10 years ago.
But that's one of the first examples of how it saves you money along with protecting the environment and making sure that our cars, our trucks aren't spitting out harmful.
pollution.
So literally, it could mean dollars and cents of the Wisconsin size.
You have to pay out more in fuel oil or in gas and fuel for our different vehicles, whether it's gasoline or diesel, because you take away these emission standards.
Well, then it's just Katie bar the door because the manufacturers are going to make it less efficient because that costs them less to produce.
Yeah.
So, all right, come on back where we're talking a little bit more with Casey Hicks, federal government affairs manager for Wisconsin conservation voters.
Find out what else is on the docket and how it will affect us here in this badger state.
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I got my packer polo shirt on today this weekend.
First preseason game against the J E T S jets, New York jets in town.
Clemens is going to keep it as up to date on all of that.
We'll talk more about that game if you are, if you're going, if you want to go yet, give you more details on that will be live from Sean O tomorrow.
Well on the also Peter Rapod from e-palms world will be here tomorrow as well So then after after the sports update with Clemens it will be another edition of the Maggie Dawn show and Maggie Dawn is out today and She is gone Maggie Dawn is gone and so but we don't have no fears stick around because our great morning team and WM DX is waiting right outside the window I can see them
And I'm not making it.
Gordy has a brand new haircut.
His hair is all
very
nice and he's ready to go.
So John and Gordy are hopping in here and they're going to guest host the Maggie Dawn show tonight or this afternoon from four until eight.
What would that be something?
Four until six, four until six.
And then Pete Schwabba and Nightlight from six until eight.
Great lineup coming up here on Civic Media right now.
Speaking of Sean Oh, just about 30 miles to the east is beautiful Green Bay where we find Casey Hicks who is joining.
from VS Streamyard from Green Bay.
He is the Federal Government Affairs Manager with Wisconsin Conservation Voters.
Again, Casey, thanks for joining us.
So we talked a little bit about the EPA Endangerment Funding.
Did you want to add anything else on to that?
Or do you want to give us another major issue that folks at Wisconsin Conservation Voters are working on?
Yeah, I'll touch a little bit more on the endangerment finding because there's an opportunity to try to protect it and make sure that it doesn't get taken away.
Part of the process that EPA goes through with these rules is collecting public comments and testimony from people.
Anyone is allowed to submit it.
Folks who are feeling the impacts of climate change, which is all of us, especially right now, given all the wildfire smoke that we felt over the last week, I think is a very good example.
I really encourage people to share how they're being impacted through public comment and what this would mean for them to have this really important tool that protects us from greenhouse gas emissions and pollution to possibly be taken away.
So there are two hearings that are happening on August 19th and August 20th that people can sign up for to give.
uh oral testimony virtually over their their computer um people need to just navigate over to EPA's website to sign up for that they can also go to our website conservation voters dot org and sign up for our email alerts because we'll be sending out updates on how to sign up for that um we encourage people to sign up by august 12th i know that's kind of coming up soon but
it's good to pre-register just so people can make sure that they have their place in line to share their thoughts.
Since I said that is short notice, we understand people probably might not always be able to make that especially in the summer in Wisconsin when we're trying to get outdoors and enjoy it.
So there's also a written public comment period until September 15th for people to submit written comments instead if it's not doable for them to be on virtual hearing.
I think it's important because at the end of the day, I think all of us want to be heard.
And so including myself coming on this program and grouse you about things, you'll do something.
Yeah.
I think people feel better if you do something.
But being these comments are important, at least to some folks that are the decision makers.
So I would just add to that that people should participate either virtually.
go to a meeting or at least ride in because at the end of the day if we stay silent about these things that are important to us as Wisconsinites, like the outdoors, like clean water, like having a great environment, you know, for hunters or what have you, because if the environment sucks, there's not going to be a lot of game to hunt.
So I think that's really important and that puts it down there where the chickens could get at it, as they say, Casey.
Yeah, exactly.
And I think
Being silent is giving our permission for these really important things to be taken away, so it is important to share our voice.
And yeah, if people want to receive more information, more resources to help them actually draft public comments, we're here to help with that.
I love reading through things and helping people out with putting together their thoughts.
one of these really important issues.
So like I said, people can go to conservationvoters.org and sign up for email alerts, and we'll be sending out more information on how to make your voice heard on protecting the engagement finding.
Conservationvoters.org, correct?
Conservationvoters.org.
Let's go quickly.
See if we can get this in.
Tom calling in on the phone lines from Jackson.
Tom, thanks for calling.
Quickly, we'll see
you.
I'd like to argue with the fuel economy and emission standards.
At the end of Biden's term, he left us with a boondoggle in that he's going to raise the fuel economy standards from like 25 to 50 miles per gallon, which no American car can make.
And to decrease emissions like to 10% of what they are now, which there again, none of these cars can make, which is forcing us to go to electric vehicles, which is the goal all along.
in Biden's administration.
And I'm not for what most of what Trump is doing, but in this case, it's a good idea to dump this terrible standards that are left for us right now.
Casey, response, you got about a minute.
Yeah, thanks to the caller for asking that question.
I appreciate it.
I think ultimately we need to make sure that we have these emission standards in place to protect public health.
I mentioned earlier, protecting our wallets, but
Making sure that we're not putting more greenhouse gas emissions into the atmosphere is ultimately what we really need to do to address the problem that's at hand with climate change and at this point We're getting very close to the tipping point of climate change and coming close to that 1.5 degrees Celsius change and global temperatures that scientists have said are going to be drastic for Our livelihoods really to put it simply so it's
all about protecting people's health and making sure that we have a healthy environment and healthy kids in the future, which I'm thinking about very much with my son.
Exactly.
Casey Hicks, thanks so much for taking the call.
Thanks for the great response.
I've had a great conversation today.
Have a wonderful day up there, Green Bay.
Again, conservationvoters.org to learn more.
Casey Hicks, thank you so much.
Have a great day.
Stay tuned.
John and Gordy are next.
Keep fighting for whatever you believe in.
We'll see you tomorrow from Sean O. Bye-bye.
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