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Good afternoon, everybody.
I'm Todd Alma, along with our producer and engineer, the fantastic Mr. Aaron Zommers on the board.
It is six minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this Wednesday, July the second, 2025.
And it's a great day to be Wisconsinite.
And it is.
That's right.
On this date.
In 1776, Katnill's Congress assembled voted to cast their votes for independence from King George III.
Hitherto an unknown fact, the declaration wasn't signed until the 4th, but the vote actually happened today.
A lot of people thought John Adams thought July 2nd would be Independence Day, but no.
The marketers said, it sounds better on the 4th.
That's what happened welcome everybody glad to have you here on a on a Wednesday edition big show today first and foremost strike up the band at the top of the show here we go Tomorrow
It is Pat Critello's birthday, America, and we're here to celebrate with us a day early.
Look at that, he even has his own little bobblehead thing.
Pat Critello, host of mornings at Pat Critello every morning from six until nine a.m., joining us from beautiful Lake Wissota in northern Wisconsin, and the senior advisor to the Lincoln Project, joining us from the Tony suburbs of Washington, D.C., Mr. Trigvie Olson, Patrick, happy birthday of my friend today early.
Well, thank you.
I am speechless.
This is such a nice surprise that you were you thought of this
would make me older than trig V and that's just not
Well, you only turned 72 once.
That's right.
Oh my god.
He has big six oh last year
So
he
was very public about that.
And
he was.
Yeah, doing fantastic.
Still, again, to make the point, Pat Crantlow has double the hair that Trigvie and I have combined because Trigvie is shaved and mine is quickly falling out.
So.
Well, you know, we all got to have something.
I have no mechanical skills to speak of whatsoever.
I have no athletic ability.
So I got hair.
Well, I got talent.
You got talent, kid.
Would you like, would you like an update on the big game?
I am such a multi-tasker.
I know you are.
What, what,
what do we hear?
He's got his phone, he forgot
to silence his phone.
I've, by the way, I've lost
my
phone here at the start of the show.
I have no
idea.
You lost
your
phone.
Yeah, but go ahead.
His
ringer's on.
I know.
Let me up, let me update you on the big game from just up the road from you.
Yeah.
In the Senate half of the inning, we are on the 10th order of business and we are now considering Senate Amendment 11 to Senate Substitute Amendment 2 to Senate Bill 45.
Uh, Senate Amendment.
Amendment 11 is the 11th of, at last count, 25 amendments that Senate Democrats are offering to the state budget agreement.
All will be shot down in time and the bill will move on to the assembly.
Pat, do you miss being in the legislature?
He's like this.
I loved it.
I do.
It was one of my favorite things that I ever did.
And I miss it very much.
No, I get that.
But I mean, some of those, some of those sessions where it's just amendment after amendment, and you know, no, there's going to pass.
It just, it drags on and on.
But I always think of Roger Bresky, who represented from way up north.
And you can't see it on the radio, but he'd make that motion with his finger, wrap it up, wrap it up, wrap it up.
He'd always be motioning to
Fred Risser or somebody else to just keep this, keep the amendments going.
We know what's going to happen.
Let's just go, you know,
roll, roll.
God bless you, Roger.
Yeah, absolutely.
I want
to get over the bar with Ellis.
Absolutely.
He and Ellis would be over at the end of the park in no time flat.
And you know what?
They'd sit there and they'd carve out the state budget on a cocktail napkin, and it was better than anything the rest of the legislators could have written up.
So that's how it used to, that's how it used to work back in the old days, said the guy turned in 61.
But that's a great point.
Let's start there, guys.
yesterday, the announcement that Governor Tony Evers had reached this agreement with legislative leaders, a majority of them being Republican, Diane Heselbein, the Senate Democratic leader, amongst them, and Latanya Johnson, also amongst Democrats who are planning on voting yes on this budget.
But now, just a joint finance past it, Latanya Johnson was the only Democrat on the committee to vote yes.
The other three Democrats voted no.
Now, as Pat said, it's into the Senate.
What do you make of this, Pat?
And the reason I was looking for my phones, because I got some, you probably, I'm sorry I didn't have a chance to listen to all the mornings this morning, but maybe you already covered it, but I saw some information from sources today.
on K-12 public education saying that this budget passes that the Eau Claire school district will actually see a decrease in revenue.
Meanwhile, now it's a depear.
It's depear actually seeing some big increase.
There seems to be no like equilibrium here when it comes to K-12 public funding in this budget.
What do you know?
I know exact, I have heard the exact same thing and have not looked at, you know, any kind of a comparison myself.
If I were, you know, back to sitting on the sitting in the back bench of the Senate chambers, I'd probably be shuffling through those papers right now.
But I have
definitely been hearing while you certainly heard it from all the childcare people that coalition, they are very much opposed to what's going on.
And as certain, not all, but as certain folks in the K12 sector look at the numbers, they too are realizing that although there was a big boost in special education reimbursement funding, the the overall aspect of you know, state aid still doesn't
nearly make up for 15 years of underfunding.
Now, nobody was expecting it all to be made up, but there's a lot of people that thought a much better deal could have been one.
Could it really with a Republican legislature and a Democratic governor?
I guess all I'd say is it's not to cast cold water on this, but you know, Governor Tim Michaels
would give you a different story than the half a loaf that's being offered here.
I'm not sure how much you follow the state budget process back here in Wisconsin, but just calling on your days working in the state legislature and for former governors Tommy Thompson and Scott McCallum.
This deal that was announced, I mean, it's as close as we're gonna get to a bipartisan thing in Wisconsin these days to pass point.
I mean, I've literally, you probably have too.
I've been in negotiations with Speaker Robin Voss.
My former Voss Dale Schultz was opposed
to the mining bill, he tried to negotiate it out, and there comes a point, not just Voss, but other people, any good politician, where there is a red line, and they simply say, okay, that's enough, and they walk out.
To Pat's point, you know, I mean, I think that Governor Evers and some of the Democrats did as good as they could under the circumstances, because having no budget, if Voss and Republicans have taken their ball and gone home, and have the same level of funding moving forward to the current budget,
childcare would have been obliterated, no money because of the lack of federal funds.
And to be honest,
It seems like everybody is unhappy about pieces of it and happy about other pieces of it, which probably says it's a pretty good compromise.
And I think this is a win for Evers.
Quite frankly, I think it's a win for the Republican leaders in the legislature too, that they were able to come up with something.
And I get that the extremes on either side aren't going to be happy.
And there's things that anybody who looks at it wishes that
They had that different, but on the whole, right?
Like, you know, the UW system went from, it was going to be axed $87 million and ended up with an extra $250 million.
So like, there is no, they're having to make hard choices.
Everybody can't get everything.
And the truth of the matter is, I just think it's a very Wisconsin-ish budget with...
You know, I don't just I don't
disagree with Pat
Pat I was I was kind of tough pretty tough on a state representative Francesca Hong yesterday because she was one of a handful of Democrats who are actually not just saying she was a no but advocating our social media for constituents around the state to call their Democratic legislators and kill this and vote no and I called her I still don't think that's right thing to do but I'll step back on myself a little bit seeing these K-12 education funding to trigger
point yeah okay so not I'm not sure that saying K-12 education cuts is extreme I don't think that and really is more a look at it this is almost like a Sophie's choice bill it's
like
okay choose either get nothing or get something
well that that is a way to look at it and basically the people who benefit the most from this politically
is everybody because most Republicans and many Democrats get to vote yes on something that they think is the best.
possible compromise given the characters at either end.
But now instead of just three Republicans voting no on this, there's going to be more than three who are going to say, nope, I just can't go along with this.
And there's going to be some Democrats that say no, either because they are in such safe districts, they can be upset about things like the school funding, or they're in such purple districts that they feel like they've got to take a stand and vote no for one reason or another.
Nothing that occurs off the top of my head.
So
This is as bipartisan as it gets, and the way that I've summed it up, borrowing from other people, is this is a result of fair maps.
Fair maps equals fair budget.
By fair budget, I mean, not good.
Not very good.
Not terrible.
Fair is fair.
Fair maps gave us a fair budget as opposed to one that would be just ridiculously unfair if a few voters had switched sides in the gubernatorial election.
And that that's our theme today.
The importance of that election and the importance of that state Supreme Court election on that abortion ruling that I know you'll talk about later on as well.
But this is the result of a bipartisan or a very closely divided electorate in the state of Wisconsin.
We're going to talk to Michelle Vasquez here, a Planned Parenthood coming up in the next segment, rather, about the Supreme Court decision that was handed down today regarding women's health care and abortion.
But Trig V, before we get to that, just again, your take on this, as you look around nationally at the scene, to Pat's point, what's happening in Wisconsin with a Democratic governor
Holding literally the line sometimes the line out of veto and a Republican legislature is this I mean this is a kind of a blueprint for the rest of America and In the nation to actually get things done
a Democrat governor and a Republican legislature, absolutely.
But this unfortunate reality is most states now don't have that reality that Wisconsin has.
Wisconsin's one of only, I think, three states.
It's down to three states that have a Democrat and a Republican in the US Senate.
There was a time when a majority of states had that.
So I think Wisconsin is an outlier.
That said,
You know, it would be good if the rest of the country were more like Wisconsin
where
And I think one of the things both parties convinced their basis of is that somehow compromises a dirty word when in reality, if you don't have compromise, you basically have zero sum and you get Donald Trump.
That's what you get.
Pat Kratlow, it's your birthday tomorrow.
You get the last minute.
You can talk about it if you want.
No, the thing here is that what Democrats can now do is instead of having to have a very terrible budget, they got a budget that is, again, fair.
And they can now go back and say, here's how much better it can be next time around if you put us over the top and give us control of the legislature next time around.
Draw the contrast.
not just looking backward going, oh, we should view this thing, but looking forward, here's what a budget's going to look like if, when you vote for us in 2026.
Sounds good.
We're going to come back and talk with Michelle Velazquez on the Supreme Court ruling today, which is going to have a real effect, particularly for women across the state of Wisconsin, what it means going forward, what it means, what Planned Parenthood did politically, and what that means moving forward.
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Welcome back to the title.
We'll show the civic media right now working this 22 now past the hour of 22 o'clock.
That is I'm looking to everything's the wrong time a Wednesday, July 2nd, 2025, Trigvie Olson, senior advisor to Lincoln Project in Washington, D.C.
Birthday boy tomorrow.
Pat Crite low host of mornings and Pat Crite low every morning from six until nine out Lake Wissota.
By the way, Zommer's looked up your Wikipedia page.
It says former broadcaster.
You're very much a broadcaster.
I know.
Well, you know, folks at Wikipedia maybe don't get local radio as well as they should.
Well, that's going
to be your birthday gift from us.
We're going to get people
on that.
Are you getting my career back?
No, no, no.
Just your Wikipedia page.
She needs no help getting her career on track.
She joins us via StreamYard here under this very important Wisconsin State Supreme Court decision today from Planned Parenthood.
Michelle Velazquez joins us via StreamYard.
Michelle, thank you very much for taking the time today on short notice after the Supreme Court ruling.
Yeah, thanks so much for having me.
It is a pleasure.
Let's get right into it the was I you know to quote a old friend not a surprise nor was unexpected I don't think Wisconsin State Supreme Court now with a liberal majority ruled today that under Wisconsin's current law as it stands that Abortion access will remain legal in this state, but there are some qualifiers to it help us walk through what this
decision means to Wisconsinites, particularly Wisconsin women today?
Sure, absolutely.
So today's decision, I think is a victory for women in this state, for patients, providers for public health and for basic human dignity.
This case is absolutely a victory.
As you said, I'm not surprised by the outcome because I think that's what the law demanded.
We were talking about a law that was written in 1849 in a time when slavery was legal, when women didn't have the right to vote.
And the court, I think, rightly decided that all of the new legislation that was passed over the last 40 years
took precedent over that 1849 law.
And so they came to the right conclusion.
So I'm not surprised by the decision.
Still, of course, very happy.
And it's a victory for people in this state.
And there's still a lot of work to be done.
And as I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, this is up to 20 or 21 weeks, correct?
Yeah.
So it's not a
complete, it doesn't get us back to row, correct?
This actually does get us back to Rose.
So this gets us back to the status quo.
So this case doesn't go beyond what abortion access looked like in Wisconsin before the DOS decision.
this sets us to the status quo.
And Planned Parenthood Wisconsin has actually been providing abortion care since September of 2023.
So we resumed that care while this case was still pending.
And we did that based on a lower court decision from the Dane County Circuit Court, a little bit of a different reasoning, but essentially the same holding that Wisconsin does not have a criminal abortion ban.
So Wisconsin providers can be assured that they won't
don't be facing criminal charges for providing abortion services.
They can be assured that they don't have to wait till somebody is on their deathbed to provide the care that they need.
But what we don't have in Wisconsin is a recognized state constitutional right.
We don't have a statutory right to abortion care.
So it is really important that we celebrate today and that we continue this work tomorrow.
Yeah, because again, it made clear in the decision that this is still a matter for the legislature.
The legislature can change the rules at will and as opposed to having a constitutional right.
So this is hardly static.
This is a case where every election is going to matter.
And Michelle, there was that secondary case seeking that constitutional affirmation of abortion rights that the state Supreme Court today decided to dismiss was that
Was that a troubling aspect of an otherwise bright decision?
Yeah, you know, Plain Part of Wisconsin filed an original action in February of 2024 because we believe that Wisconsin's constitution has meaning and we believe that
the Wisconsin Constitution, which states that there's a right to life and liberty and equal protection, has to have meaning.
And that means people have the right to choose whether or not to become a parent.
And of course, inherent in that is the right to access abortion care.
And so we brought that case before the Wisconsin Supreme Court seeking that acknowledgement of a state constitutional right.
So we're disappointed that the state
court did not ultimately reach a decision in that case, and that it dismissed that action.
But there's still very much a live question about what Wisconsin's Constitution protects when it comes to reproductive freedom.
And it is urgent that we continue to get that clarification.
And so the courts will ultimately need to answer that question, I think, in one way or another.
Of course, there's
the potential for legislative action as well.
But given the makeup right now of the Wisconsin legislature, I don't think that we will be seeing.
a Wisconsin legislature that is passing reproductive freedom, although a bill was introduced earlier this year that would do just that.
To Pat's point, Michelle, I know you guys have been active, obviously, politically.
I would think that Planned Parenthood, the political arm at least, felt like we got a return for our investment.
Unlike some people that wanted new congressional maps, we're looking to see if they can refund other campaign contributions.
But I think that this is a win for Planned Parenthood.
But to Pat's point,
does this set up for the next legislative race is now with new legislative maps?
Are we gonna see reproductive rights once again rise to the top in state elections?
Yeah, I mean, I think that with the overturning of Roe, reproductive freedoms, whether it's contraception, abortion, gender-firming care, all of these rights are really under attack at the federal level, and we're seeing a patchwork of
laws and court decisions around the country.
So I do think that for the time being, this is likely to be a really salient issue for a lot of people in elections.
And again, the need for that constitutional protection is
It just cannot be overstated.
And that's a way to take this out of the politics.
We ultimately need to get health care decisions out of politics.
Yeah.
I'm Michelle Vlasquez.
Thank you so much for being with us from a Planned Parenthood today.
I really appreciate your time.
Help us understand this very important issue for Wisconsinites all the better.
Thank you so much, Michelle.
Appreciate you.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Pat, can you come back for a quick after the break?
Yeah, we'll come back and celebrate Pat a little bit with Trigvie.
So don't go anywhere.
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We're 35 minutes past the hour at two o'clock.
That is the story of both Pat Critello and Luke Sir once in a while is two clowns to the right, jokers to the left or whichever way it was.
And there's Pat Critello stuck in the middle between Trigvie and I, the shining star of this segment every week.
We appreciate him sticking
around a little
bit and celebrating Pat Crichtlow's birthday tomorrow.
Pat, you're getting an early birthday present for the Brewers
right now.
Yeah, I love Bologna.
I'm
telling you.
No, no, no, on the cross many of our stations right now on the network of the Brewers ready network, the Brewers in game one of what has turned out to be today a double header because last night's game was a postpone due to rain.
They are believing the top of the ninth inning and it is Milwaukee seven.
And
the Mets to because of a Joey Ortiz go ahead grand slam.
How about that?
Yes.
So you got that.
You had Freddie Peralta.
I think he's going to get the wind if this holds out.
And then the Miz in in the second game of of
the double header today.
So that's it.
Did you know the pregame for that starts at 535 across several civic media radio stations?
That's how I knew
that.
That's how good to have Craig Lewis because he reads the liners.
So what are you doing, Pat, for your birthday tomorrow?
Do they have fireworks or like with soda?
Are you going out in the pontoon?
Do you and your wife go over to the mallard?
What do you do?
Well, this year, not much.
Last year, Sherry threw a big party for me for my 60th, a big backyard birthday party, which was...
Really nice and she made clear that was a once a decade situation because she also threw a big backyard party for my 50th birthday So I'm gonna have to somehow schlep around for nine more years if I want to have decent party with friends again So no tomorrow is is mostly a workday because you know here no three-day weekend goes unpunished exactly after
You have to prepare a show for the holiday.
I have a weekend newsletter to put out a day early.
Sign up for it at UpNorthNewsWI.com.
I have, you know, all the promo stuff for next week to do.
But if I do all that, then I can spend parts of Friday or Saturday or Sunday in my hammock next to the lake, and all will be right with the world.
Look at that.
Now, there was talk, there was talk about having a pre-recorded show tomorrow for this program, and Zomers and I were just like, no, that's not happening.
because it was just, it was too much, it was just too, it was more work than it was worth with all the prep, like, and with all the breaking
news.
It's a lot of work, and that's just it, with the breaking news, you don't know what the US House is gonna do with the Senate, you know, federal budget bill, and all the other things that could happen.
So, no, it wasn't in the cards, and you know what?
We'll make up for it next week when you're up here at the Northern Wisconsin State Fair.
We are gonna be there, thank you very much for saying that.
It looks like now, tentatively, we are gonna be there both Thursday and Friday.
to
the other program from the real coin in the wishing well and it came true.
Now I threw in the other coin and I'm not seeing Trigvia appearing at the fair here.
Yes.
Why see a Trigvia think of the fun we could.
He was there last year and he was.
Remember we had that that
that that rigged horse race or whatever it was the water race.
Yeah, the water race the the amusement park.
Yeah, mine didn't work As he's as he's busy, you know shaking like a like a guy, you know waking up from a three-day bender his hand is just all over the place and He's saying it's the gun.
It's a problem.
I mean He's crying out
rigged it was I
never
seen so much consternation of my life
We're playing a River Falls show or part of it on on Friday trick.
We give it River Falls your hometown is shot
So that'll be nice.
All right, boys.
They didn't people don't tune in to hear his commiserate like three old men all that off to a patent all seriousness.
We wish you a happy birthday.
Let's talk a little bit about my pleasure.
Let's talk a little bit more politics.
Trey, we are out there in DC.
I know that you go in and hang out with the boys at the Capitol.
No, not really.
But what's what's going on in terms of this cleared the Senate.
Susan Collins somehow mustered up the courage to do more than finally send a very strong.
She actually went along with Tillis and your old buddy Rand Paul and voted no on this, but yet JD Vance got off the couch and cast the tie-breaking vote.
And so then it goes over to the house and now there's very slim margins.
People are out of town.
Johnson's trying to get people back in.
Where is this going to go in the house, do you think?
I think- Yeah, they will, they'll fall in line.
I do think, you know, I was saying this to somebody else, what is not-
realized out here is how much of an impact it's going to have in places like Wisconsin.
Bingo.
Healthcare and rural hospitals.
That really is the piece of it that's going to impact people in states that matter.
I couldn't agree more.
And I mean, Pat, nobody knows this more than you living in Chippewa Valley.
The impact of closing a hospital that serves, at least in part, rural Wisconsin.
Unfortunately, I think that's going to be replicated in Wisconsin and in a tricky set across the country.
it's a trend that showed no signs of stopping to begin with, and is only going to continue.
I mean, right now, if you're somewhere between Eau Claire Chippewa Falls and Duluth, and Rice Lake is there, but if you are anywhere else in that great big quadrant of Northwest Wisconsin, and you go into labor, hope your car's fast, you know, and that, and that so many other smaller hospitals in that region have closed.
And for somebody like, say, a Derek Van Orden to say,
nobody on Medicaid is going to lose their benefits.
You're going to watch so many small hospitals in that district, be on the knife's edge, or closed doors all together.
And at that point, he's going to echo, what's it say, Mitch McConnell going, oh, well, you know, they'll get over it, or it was a Joni Ernst, well, they're all going to die anyway.
It's a heck of a position to have for somebody that wants to represent rural Wisconsin.
Although I think his hypocrisy
is exceeded only by Ron Johnson, who said he was firmly against the bill because it's $3 trillion in new debt, and he voted yes, but only after it got to what, $3.9 trillion in debt.
Let's get back to Johnson the second, but first of all, 855-752-4842.
I have a question for Pat Triggy or talking about this national budget right now, 855-752-4842.
Let's go to the phone lines.
David, listening via the Civic Media app all the way out in beautiful San Francisco on the West Coast.
David, thanks for listening and calling in.
What have you got?
Well, yeah, I appreciate it.
You're talking about this.
I was thinking about
You know, for decades, we've been hearing that social security's fading, fading, we've got to cut back, cut back.
But they never try to fill it up.
And they never invest in filling it up.
And if I remember right, in the very beginning days of social security, 75 or 80 years ago or so, people were all screaming about, oh, this is money that's going to go straight to DC and never come back.
And so the way they resolved that was they created 13 different districts in America and that the Social Security Trust Fund would buy infrastructure bonds like school district bonds, sewer bond issues, fire district bond issues.
And so they would invest in the region with the social security money.
Well, now where the Republicans refuse to do infrastructure development,
The bond issues are non-existent.
And so there's no opportunity for social security to reinvest in the regions.
So you couldn't have a hospital bond issue.
You couldn't have clinic bond issues.
You couldn't have library bond issues and all sorts of different things.
And so all of, you know, all during the seventies and eighties and nineties, the rural areas were drying up because everybody was heading to the big city because there was no work there anymore.
And no, so filling up social security is much smarter.
And I would think that the quickest way that we could fill it up is raise the minimum wage and raise it to a number that's valid as opposed to these tiny increments.
Appreciate the call, David.
Thank you so
much.
I'm not sure if I'm not sure if you meant minimum wage or if you meant the cap on earnings, the cap on earnings for Social Security, because right now that's capped at $176,000.
So some people don't make $176,000 all year.
So their wages all year long, they pay their 6.2% into Social Security.
Take a guy like you don't need an Elon Musk, but plenty of other examples, professional athletes, for example, some of them make $176,000 by January 10.
And they are all done paying social security tax for the rest of the year.
Now, I know the argument is that, well, everybody kind of gets the same amount, you know, when they get older, I get that.
But if you want this to be solvent for everybody, then you have to raise that cap.
And you can raise it to a point where you can completely keep social security solvent all the way through.
And all those billionaires
And there's how many are there now?
500 plus?
All those billionaires will still be billionaires after you increase the cap of $176,000 of income.
Well, all three of us are getting to the age we started thinking about, well, you know, there's gonna be a point where I might want us to have some of that social security.
A will be around, but all three of us also remember Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill to dynamically opposite people politically, but found a way at the time in the 80s to continue to fund social security.
Why is this just not seemingly important, these issues like social security, Medicaid, to the Republican, our former party anymore?
I mean, here's the thing.
I think there's a compromise to be had.
I don't necessarily disagree with Pat when he's saying that the income level has to be raised.
I think it's also true, though, you see on the left people, when they say, we've got to raise the age from 65 to 70, that that's somehow a cut in people's social security.
You know, the reality is people are living longer for the most part.
And it hasn't gone up in an extended period of time.
So the reality is though, I just think the extremes on both sides aren't serious and the people in the middle who try and come to a reasonable compromise on it get their legs taken out by the people on the extremes.
Everybody is going to lose on
that.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but it seems like, I mean, other than Susan Collins, Tillis, who basically got pushed out by Trump this week in the Senate, and Ryan Paul, who just doesn't give a crap, I guess, or wants to spend time on his lawnmower, I mean, Donald Trump is absolutely, there is no, there's no extreme, it's just Donald Trump on the right.
If you don't go along Donald Trump, that's it.
I still think there's some sort of individual voice on the Democratic
side.
there should be.
And there should be a Maverick or two, a John McCain in the Republican Party that stands up for this and says, this is ridiculous.
And Tom Tillis was kind of sort of trying on on Medicaid, but nobody else.
I mean, Susan Collins, but I mean,
What I you can't get a read on her Then you're telling me no other Republican of course they do their nervous is how about this going back to their district knowing what they have just done But they also know that so many Americans still don't know about all this right because you look at the cable networks Are they covering the biggest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the upper class in history?
Are they covering a this broad cutting of healthcare security?
No, they're covering
the DD trial.
Right.
So it's a challenge for all of us who actually care.
I'm sorry.
That was really funny
Did he trial
by the way?
He basically he basically got off today, which I think is why I thought that was part of the reason he was in court
He's still facing 15 years in prison and I hope he gets it all
Like with soda his own puff daddy Pat Crite low every morning from six until nine Happy birthday Patrick.
We appreciate
you.
All right.
Talk to you up north
Next week, come on back, Trivia and I will wrap up this hour.
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Welcome back to the Tell All Ball Show across Wisconsin, from Lake Superior to Lake Michigan.
Green Bay to the Mississippi River, all points in between on the Civic Media Ready Network.
Glad to have you long, Todd, behind the mic.
Trig V behind the mic out in DC.
Trig V Olsen, Senior Advisor of the Lincoln Project and Zomers up in the DJ stand here at the World Headquarters in downtown Madison, Wisconsin.
Many thanks to Pat Crite Low.
If you see Pat on the street tomorrow up there in Chippewa Falls.
Say hi.
Say happy birthday, Pat.
He's a great guy.
We love him.
Terry Barr, saying great music choice.
So there you go, Trigby.
Terry Barr.
When are
getting Terry
Terry Terry does ever she's a she's a Emmy Award multiple Emmy Award-winning journalist She's also a DJ.
She also is a co-host of max Inc radio here at WMDX every Saturday night.
They play all kinds of that kind of music rocker John all good.
It's a great show.
rock
You know, I thought round and round by rat was pretty fitting Terry bar might know this, you know, Steven Percy a rat So he's still out on the road and we went as you know, we went my buddies and I we didn't go to see you too at the sphere We went to see rat and night ranger at the stratosphere, which was just awesome And I spent a hundred and twenty dollars to get us VIP tickets and we actually watched Night Ranger with Steven Pearcey from rat and Steven Pearcey from rat looks like he spent his
career in rat.
Yeah,
doesn't look so hot.
That was one of our tours last week or last year and we were falls and Trigby goes, you should come along.
And you know, you have a lot of fun.
I said, I'd like to Trigby, but I know you pretty well by now.
And I'm like,
it ain't going to be an early evening.
And the next and the next morning Trigby's like,
yeah, it was probably better you
didn't go.
Yeah.
Yeah,
I hope my buddies when we go on the tour this time and we end up in Green Bay We'll go to the game and they'll have to come over.
I mean scoop was on the show and we're in River Falls, right?
Like he's not the mayor.
He's on the school board I I want to talk about this school board thing though.
So Eau Claire is getting cut
According if I could
find my phone, which I'm gonna look for the break here between
the what are
they doing?
The state budget report there are reports that some of the local some of the state school districts are going to actually see reductions in overall Revenue by the state and others are gonna see an increase so it looks like Eau Claire is gonna have at least some some cut so Poor Mike.
I know right?
So it's this from the education governor
Honestly, for all the people listening across the state of Wisconsin, so like being the superintendent of a school and I don't just say
I say this because of some other people that I've known throughout my life.
Being a superintendent of a school district in Wisconsin is a hard, hard job.
And those people care greatly about kids.
They don't get into it.
They get all beat up because of what they're being paid or whatever.
They didn't get into it for the money.
They got into it for the kids.
And it's awful, the politics of it.
And now, the way the funding mechanisms haven't been upgraded, it honestly.
And the people
to do those jobs the people and we see
replicated all across the state is as you probably well know The voters the taxpayers in the Eau Claire school district just passed a referendum and they're literally putting in New technology centers in at least one of the middle schools from my brother-in-law teaches So the voters are investing in their public schools because they get it and meanwhile our state legislature in particular But in this budget it looks like
Eau Claire, places like Eau Claire and others around the state are actually going to see reductions, which is only going to mean more referendums on taxpayers moving down the road.
I don't
Terry Barr, by
Terry
says, Trig V. Fire.
when it comes to your music.
Look at
Steely
I really wanted to do.
I know you do.
I know
do.
He's not joking around, Terry.
He would much rather
We
go on
these What Waste Wisconsin Great Tours and I'm driving and Trigby gets off of these tangents.
And when he gets off of the rock tangent, I just let him go because I don't have a deep cut when it comes to classic rock.
Do
was nuts.
That's fantastic.
All right, a couple minutes left here.
Trivia, anything else you want to pack or anything else you want to talk about?
You
baseball, but by the way, the Brewers won on many of our stations on civic media in game one of a doubleheader 72 over the Mets later on tonight.
They will take on the Mets again.
The Miz, the Brewers phenom.
What?
brewers are a major league team.
know.
I saw
just a bit outside.
Yeah, it's a great movie, by the way.
Our friends, Kelly, Colin, Sean,
stream it
but Robin Yacht.
You wouldn't put Robin Yacht in the Kirby Puckett category.
A head of Kirby
I don't
love Gorman Thomas.
No, I want to play this or that.
Oh, Lord.
All right.
He's going to come back play.
What's words?
That's the name of it.
Get ready.
It involves fourth of July festivities.
Not going to want to miss it.
That's straight ahead in hour two.
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