Roundabouts and Budget Rabbit Holes (Hour 2)

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Roundabouts and Budget Rabbit Holes (Hour 2)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Mon Jun 30, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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I'm Tom Allbaugh, along with Mr. Aaron Zommers, our fantastic producer and engineer back at the home station in Madison, Wisconsin.

We are coming to you live here at WGBW in Green Bay, Wisconsin on a beautiful day.

It is Monday, June 30th, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.

Welcome everybody to hour number two of the program six minutes past the hour of three o'clock glad to be with you many thanks to trig v. Olson and pat crite low for filling in in our number one Also, thank you to state senator kelder Royce for being here on the show talking about the state budget mr. Zabers How you doing on this fine Monday

doing well, you know I had a nice relaxing weekend one of my friends from college came to visit so good

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to see

people you haven't seen in a while good for you and yeah

It's a good day to be inside, if you're me.

How are you doing?

Todd Allbaugh

I'm well.

I'm well.

Is the camera down there still not working?

Or are you just choosing not to be on camera?

I just had it off because

otherwise it was covering you up.

Todd Allbaugh

Oh, OK.

Well, some people would say that's all for the best, but it's nice to see you smiley face.

Yeah.

Well, again, many thanks to Pat and Trig V for filling in and our number one.

And I was listening to the show.

The first hour because I was on the road and it was fan number one was fantastic Trigby and Pat always do a great job and Zombers as well And I heard Pat talking about it sounded very secret very clandestine Todd will Todd will tell you what's going on.

So here's the deal Here's why Pat and what a mensch he is to use a word for fill it in because it is the 80th birthday today of my stepmom Mary Mary all of all here in shadow

And her party was, and I'm not sure if this was a sign or not, her party was from one until four on a Monday afternoon, which is great because a lot of her friends, that's the best time for her.

And I said, well, that's going to be a little tough for me to make it, but let me see what I can do.

So Pat and Trig V were kind enough to say, well, we'll help you out.

They did our number one.

And then I left it this basically the start of the show.

I got the old truck and motor over here to the beautiful studios of WGVW.

Many thanks to the great general manager here, Todd Michaels, for taking pity and saying, sure, we can put you up here.

So I'm in one of the studios here, not in the Pete Schwabba studio today, because Pete has to get ready for his show.

later on tonight from six until eight.

But, uh, yeah, it was over in Shawnaw celebrated with cake and root beer floats.

It was a beautiful day.

Big crowd for, for Mary.

Well deserved.

And it's still going on.

So my step, uh, my step, my step brother, Mike is there, but also my brother law, Mike is there.

So brother law, Mike, what two mikes, two mikes for the price of one.

So, uh, uh, brother law, Mike has taken, I was the cake server.

Four cakes, lemon, which

went

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well.

Black forest, which only a slice left when I left the party.

Then you had your carrot cake with walnut and your turtle cake.

And my sister was on bar duties doing root beer floats, diet or regular.

So that was a big party.

It was as, uh, as Kel Lewis likes to say, good time had by all.

So a happy birthday to, uh, my step mom, mom, Mary.

And thanks for everybody for letting me get an hour of that in.

You're not going to want to miss this hour here.

Now that we're, uh, uh, back in the show, lots going on this hour, the bottom of the hour, two new folks from Wisconsin to watch.

This is always great.

Zombers.

When somebody makes their radio debut.

And so Maggie and no.

from Wisconsin Watch will be in making their radio debut right here on the show.

Gonna be talking a little bit about the budget process.

I know you guys talked about it in hour one.

They're gonna give us some journalistic updates.

Where is this all going?

What does this all mean?

And also a little bit on the federal budget as well, Ron Johnson, getting a case of the yips over the weekend.

He was a no, and then he was a yes.

So we'll talk to them about that a little bit as well.

Maybe take a phone call or two.

But right now in Somers, 10 minutes by the way, before we do the ones worse.

I don't want to talk about this today too much because we were a little short on time.

I'm going to get into it tomorrow.

So join the show tomorrow because and people in the list of this show know I grew up originally in center.

I've now spent half my life in Madison and I love Madison, Wisconsin.

But I'll tell you, I was.

Rarely so happy to get out of Madison this weekend then for the big Morgan Wallen concert Concerts are back at Camp Randall and for the economy and all that fantastic, but boy There were some different folks in town

Yeah,

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that's what

I stayed home because of that

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But my friend

was here for a conference that he had to go for to go to for work.

That was downtown So he saw a lot of the crowd

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It's uh I had a lot of off-the-record conversations this weekend by the way We're gonna talk more about those tomorrow as well But one of the folks said this and I was talking to this weekend I said you nailed it and they said well don't tell anybody I said it I said all right

But this individual, I was trying to describe, I said, look, I've gone to country music, I like country music, like Kenny Chesney, Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, I was at the Willie Nelson concert, concert at Bree Stevens Field in Madison last year, and country music fans are great, but these were not your typical country music fans you find in Wisconsin for the most part.

I know there were country music fans in Wisconsin that went to the big Morgan Wallin concert.

But I couldn't I couldn't nail it and this individual said they're rich country fans.

I said yes That's it.

They ain't the run of the mill Country fans these people are the wealthy because some of these women They were they if my grandma used to say they were all done up they had these fancy cowboy boots on and these

I guess they're called sun dresses.

I'm not making this up.

They barely cover the cheeks of their posterior.

Yeah.

And then full makeup.

I mean, and full glamour shop makeup, hair extensions, bedazzled hats.

This ain't the country music fans you find at the Bolas bar.

You understand.

You're right.

It's not as people who have a cowboy hat and

cowboy boot fetish.

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This is another breed of cat.

It's another breed of cat.

So I encountered someone at the terrace over the weekend and she was wearing a hat, a particular hat, which I had not seen in the wild before.

I'll get into it tomorrow.

We're gonna build a whole segment around it, so don't miss this tomorrow.

Anyways, 13 minutes past the hour of three o'clock.

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All right, Summers, timely, timely indeed, as Mike Lucas says.

I've been driving back and forth here the last 24 hours between Green Bay and Shawano Highway 29 and the Green Bay area I think one of the first places in the state of Wisconsin to really embrace the roundabout the roundabout other people not so much so the question of the day in what's worse roundabouts or traffic lights what's worse roundabouts

or traffic lights.

To

me it's easy.

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All right, Summers.

Roundabouts or traffic lights?

Roundabouts or traffic lights?

What's worse?

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Tony on watching this on YouTube.

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Tony on YouTube says love roundabouts so efficient boo on traffic lights Steve Milwaukee listened on WAUK traffic lights, especially the long ones are worse Cam listening in Appleton says worked for the Department of Transportation Roundabouts are statistically better and safer

If you can't manage a roundabout, then I don't think you should handle anything more dangerous than a child's play shopping cart.

Wow.

That's a hot take from Cam.

What's worse?

Roundabouts or traffic lights.

855-752-4842.

855-752-4842.

Christie listing a WCFW the tap over in beautiful Eau Claire says traffic lights are worse.

Traffic comes to a stop.

Traffic circles.

keep things moving along.

Ben, listening on WRCE and beautiful Richland Center in the drift list says roundabouts are way, way faster.

I don't know why people are so mystified about how they work.

All right, very good.

Appreciate that.

Also, Christina O'Claire, a big shout out to Pat Krightlow.

Earlier for letting no Claire Chippewa Falls know there was a storm of Bruin bunch of us went out and closed our car windows Thank you so much.

They're very good.

See that's the kind of guy if you can't be here The kind of guy you want to fill in your chair for you is a guy like Pat Pat quite low a he's just a great guy and be he is a broad Caster you understand a broad Caster and it really

shows You know he was in the legislature because he cares about the people you can tell he still does because you know he's giving out weather alerts

Todd Allbaugh

Absolutely.

Great job, Pat.

We appreciate that.

What's worse, roundabouts or traffic lights?

855-752-4842.

Mike, listening in Sun Prairie on WMDX out of Madison, says love roundabouts.

Hate traffic lights.

They save time and they save gas.

Also, John and Oshkosh, listening on WISS, says as long as people follow the yield sign and don't treat it as an automatic stop sign, roundabouts work fine.

Yield to the left and stay in your lane.

Easy.

Let's see here.

Nan in Brookfield says traffic lights are worse.

Can sit there idling when there is no cross traffic in sight.

Roundabouts much better.

and more efficient Nan in Brookfield.

Appreciate you listing Nan in W-A-U-K.

Mark, in prayer to sack, yes, the rock band had a song.

Roundabout.

Yeah, he's so much

under roundabout.

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Yes, I was

gonna play it in the next

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I still can we still can.

Yeah, absolutely.

I know Troy's the line Troy hold I know we're coming for a break here so do a little business as we say come back take Troy's call and maybe yours as well.

Give us a jingle 855-752-4842 855-752-4842 what's worse roundabouts or traffic lights don't go anywhere.

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And Crite Low's right.

I like to take her

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right up to the end of the All Ball Show.

Todd Allbaugh

Welcome back to the town of all show on the civic media ready network 22 minutes now past the hour of three o'clock live from Green Bay, Wisconsin today the heart of WGB W are great station up here

in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

It's a great community, great town if there's so much to do besides the Packers, but we can't ignore the Packers either.

I was staying at one of the beautiful Hampton Inns here in Green Bay last night and I got up this morning to have a little breakfast and there was a lovely couple.

One of these people, a young couple, and you think, well, see, that gives you hope for humanity.

I don't know if they were even out of their 20s yet.

They were probably mid to late 20s, and they had a little boy, I believe, who could not have been more than one and a half, two.

And this kid was well demeanored, and you could tell it was probably because the way the parents treated them, and they were healthy bombers.

This couple, this man and this woman, they were eating, you know, here Todd was eating the mini waffles and the over.

sweet lemon poppy seed muffin and coffee and this couple is having yogurt and milk and and and an apple and and they're all very happy to get well it turns out that I overheard him talking to another family of about six people and grandparents and the kids and the grandkids they were all here in town to see the Packers Hall of Fame and go to Lambeau Field and the one couple

with a little kid, they're from Detroit.

They said, well, we're actually Detroit Lions fans, but you know what?

We were passing through and on this trip and we thought we're in Green Bay.

There's so much history.

We want to come and see it.

And I thought right there, that's what the Packers symbolize and the Green Bay Packers organization and how cool is it that the economic engine driver that are the Green Bay Packers, it's so much more than sports.

So anyway, it's just, and as we talked before with Mino and the mayor, there's a great entertainment and art center here.

The downtown is being revitalized.

You've got Bay Beach Park.

All kinds of great things here in Green Bay.

So do yourself a favor and check out Green Bay this summer.

Many thanks to all the staff here at WGBW.

All right, right now we're right in the middle of what's worse, roundabouts or traffic lights.

Roundabouts or traffic lights.

855-752-4842.

855-752-4842.

Also, yes, a shout out to Mark on the sack and Zabers.

It was called The Rock Band, the thing roundabout.

No, it's, the band is yes.

And the song is roundabout.

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I like that roundabouts.

Yes.

Or yes, sing about roundabouts, roundabouts or traffic lights.

What's worse, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

Let's go to the phone lines.

Our friend Troy listening to Mount Horrib on WMDX.

Troy, thanks for holding roundabouts or traffic lights.

What's worse?

I thought I was going to be arguing with people because my circle, they like traffic lights better, I guess, but they actually just dislike roundabouts, but I love them.

I think that anytime you can get rid of a stop sign or a stoplight, they're awesome.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, you know I I tend to agree with you try I mean I'm not sure I was hot on them right at first, but where what happened was I You know those people listen to show I've taken a lot of trips over the years to El Salvador and San Salvador We're down there.

I think like in some parts of Europe.

It's it's just a common thing

And in El Salvador, they have like a, they're huge ones.

It's like, it's like six lane, six lane roundabouts.

And in it, it's like a, it's like a fair ride.

It's like a, I mean, you got to go in there and you got to fight and you, you got to know it's fantastic.

It's like driving the, the Daytona 500.

Aren't

they like that in London too?

Todd Allbaugh

I think I've never, never been to London, but yeah, I've heard somewhere.

But yeah, I got, I got used to driving on those.

And I come back here and just a stand around about that's nothing.

It's a lot of fun.

So I appreciate it.

I love them.

They're easy.

I love them.

They're great.

Thanks for I appreciate the call.

Have a great day out there beautiful Mount Horeb 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 What's worse roundabouts or stoplights traffic lights Connie listening on WMDX of Madison says roundabouts are better if everyone follows the rules Also a new listener on W ISS.

Thank you very much for listening.

I believe Zomers is the paperwork done

I love there is a rumor that Jane McNair, Greg Bach and I are taking a road trip to WISS area in Oshkosh.

I hope to goodness it's true, but a new listener on WISS says traffic lights are the worst.

People can't text going through roundabouts.

That's really good.

It is hard to text, right?

If you're going through a roundabout.

Thanks for listening to us.

Brand new listener there in in Oshkosh will be up there soon.

Come out and say hi.

Ollie in the North Woods right now on the line.

Let's go to the phone lines 855-752-4842.

Ollie roundabouts or traffic lights.

What's worse?

Traffic lights are definitely the worst and and here in the United States we have roundabouts with just a few lanes.

We

lived in

Paris when I was younger and the roundabouts had like 10 or 12 different avenues coming off of them.

So you had to get on there and know where you were going and if you could do that, you should be able to do a simple two-lane roundabout here in the United States.

Todd Allbaugh

I love it.

Thanks, Ollie.

Have a great day up there in the Northwoods.

855-752-4842.

Let's keep it Madison on WMDX.

Adrian in Madison, thanks for calling roundabouts or traffic lights.

Adrian, what's worse?

I think the roundabouts are way worse.

The statistics you cited saying that you get lesser accidents with traditional traffic signals.

or with with roundabouts I should say is true but you got to break that down a little farther you get more you get more you get fewer traffic accidents with traditional intersections but the thing is you completely disregard the interests of bicyclists and motorcyclists because they just get slaughtered in roundabouts

Todd Allbaugh

That's a great point, Adrian.

Thanks for calling.

Have a great day there in Madison.

Yeah, I mean, roundabouts, no place for a biker.

You want to have someplace else for them to go quickly.

Stephen Madison says, I think lights are necessary for busier, complicated intersections, though, but in general, they're worse.

Zombers?

What's worse?

Oh, yeah.

Traffic lights are worse.

Way

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more dangerous.

Agreed.

Traffic lights are fact worse.

That's how we play it.

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Thirty-five minutes now past the hour of three o'clock.

Glad to have you along.

Monday, June 30th, 2025.

I am live here at our studios in downtown Green Bay, Wisconsin.

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Glad to have you along.

Back at the World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin on State Street right now.

We are joined by our next guest from Wisconsin.

Watch the great publication.

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and find all of their work at WisconsinWatch.org.

That's WisconsinWatch.org.

Joining us right now via StreamYard from the Madison Studios are Noe Goldhabber and also Maggie Shreiner.

And we're glad to have both of them along.

Folks, welcome to the program.

I understand this is your debut here on Civic Media.

That's very exciting for us.

Yeah.

We're excited to be here.

Thanks for having us.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, absolutely.

I always like to start with tell us a little bit about yourself.

Noe, let's go ahead and begin with you.

How did I understand you recently started with Wisconsin Watch?

What were you doing before that?

And what led you, what made you passionate about wanting to get into journalism?

Yeah, sure.

So before that, I'm a student at UW.

I'm going to graduate in spring of 2026.

Oh,

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really?

Wow, that's fantastic.

Yeah.

So Maggie and I, I guess Maggie's an intern for a little longer, but

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I'm an

intern for the summer.

And I do a lot of work with our student publication on campus, The Daily Cardinal.

And I think I started kind of freshman year of college kind of getting into journalism, reporting on like student government, what's going on on campus and always just love journalism as a way to like be engaged in the community and understand what was going on on campus.

So that was the beginning.

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And where'd you grow up at?

I grew up in Milwaukee.

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Beautiful Milwaukee, very good.

Love Milwaukee, a great city.

And Maggie, how about your similar question, where'd you grow up and what led you to this and what are you doing right now?

Yeah, I'm originally from Grand Rapids, Michigan, actually.

So I've only been

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in

Wisconsin for going on to my fourth year in Wisconsin, came here for the School of Journalism at UW-Madison.

And similar to Noe, I've worked my way up the ranks of a student publication.

And yeah, I'm excited to be here at Wisconsin Watch and be in the Capitol reporting.

Todd Allbaugh

So are both of you associated with the Cardinals as well?

No, I'm with the Herald, or I was

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with the Herald.

Yeah, we're competitors.

I love it.

I love it.

Well, I want to just take a moment.

I've talked about it on this show before.

And last year during the student protests on campus, some of the

best journalism and most accurate information was coming from student journalists.

And I even said, I hate to even put the precursor student in front of it.

You guys are just journalists.

And I think that the Cardinal and the Herald.

go, I'll use the pun, unheralded far too often because you all are doing great work there and the J School at Madison is one of the finest in the country.

So I just want to say both, thank you to both of you and your publications because you're doing great

work.

Thanks.

Thank you.

Appreciate that.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, absolutely.

And, you know, Matt DeFore will, uh, will give you angry texts if I don't say.

Also, Wisconsin Watch is doing great work as well.

But how cool is that?

And it just shows you how forward thinking DeFore is in Wisconsin Watch.

Hey, let's kind of get some of these young journalists, uh, now and bring them on board and grow this because you want youthful energy, which is why Zommer's hangs around just to make me look better.

I think that's great.

All right.

Uh, enough of this silliness.

Let's get into some of this, what you guys were working on this weekend.

When last we left our listeners on Friday, the Joint Finance Committee had been scheduled to meet at 10, then it got pushed back to two, then it got pushed back to four, and then the boys just said, let's go out for a drink, we'll come back later.

And apparently they finally did come back late into the evening.

Yeah, so they started after 10 p.m.

on Friday and

went just, I think, right before midnight.

And they originally intended on finishing the budget up Friday.

And that was what they were saying.

That was what their original notice said.

But they ended up actually not even finishing and missing some of the big ticket items, like the capital budget, UW system, childcare, health services.

Todd Allbaugh

Annoy?

Yeah, now those items seem to be on the agenda for tomorrow at 9 a.m.

So there's still kind of a movement to get a deal between the Senate Assembly and Governor.

So we look forward to see if that happens and we'll be ready to cover kind of the remaining areas of the budget that have yet to come out of committee.

Todd Allbaugh

Now, this is interesting.

I saw this over the weekend on social media.

I just wondered, in either one of your reporting, things that you're hearing right now, Bill McCosh and former Secretary of Commerce and also Chief of Staff under former Republican Governor Tommy Thompson is still very connected.

He's a lobbyist now.

I heard him talking, as they say, on another network, but he actually was saying over the weekend that

the budget process or the budget negotiations never actually broke down.

There's all those hoopla, oh, the governor said, and Robert Voss said we're not talking to each other, but McCosher claims that that was not the case, that it's been going back and forth.

McCosher also claims that Steve Noss has basically is ready to cut a deal because I'm not sure, there's a guy, Mike Mickelson, who's his chief of staff, who basically is the real senator, my words, not yours.

Mekashin's saying is there's a deal with Nas, ready to go on board, and he's saying that this childcare issue, which is a huge issue for the state of Wisconsin, many of our listeners, that the governor's gonna get part of that, that Voss is gonna give the governor at least part of what he wants on the childcare issue, have either one of you heard that there may be a deal in the works, or is that just Mekashin talking big?

You know, I haven't heard specifically on that,

Do you know that there have been efforts to approve some of what, you know, Governor Evers wants, notably childcare, because he's made it pretty clear throughout the budget process that he's not going to sign a budget that doesn't include increased funding to childcare.

That's been one of his, you know, biggest, biggest items on this budget.

And it's the year of the kid in his words.

So I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case, but I also, I'm hesitant to say whether that's true or not, because I haven't heard.

for my

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sources

personally.

Todd Allbaugh

Sure, Noe.

Yeah, I would agree with Maggie.

I haven't heard specifics to that degree from any of our sources, but I will say that the Republican line has been that they want an assurance from Evers that they're going to get a tax cut in the final budget.

And when, I guess, budget negotiations initially broke down in early June,

Evers office was saying, you know, we agreed to a tax cut, but it wasn't, you know, of the degree that the Republicans wanted and they weren't giving us enough for the funding for education and childcare that we wanted.

So I think it seems to be that Evers has agreed to a tax cut or can agree to a tax cut, but where those other pieces of the deal come, I'm not really sure.

Todd Allbaugh

We're talking with Noe Goldhaber.

Haber or Haber, I'm sorry?

Haber.

Todd Allbaugh

Haber, alright, thank you very much.

It's always when you get old, you forget, so I like to write it down.

So, Noe Goldhaber and also Maggie Schreiner here on the show there from Wisconsin Watch.

So, I know you guys have been looking at the budget and writing a little bit about this in conjunction with other things.

I'm not sure which one he wants to go first, but what's something you guys have been working on right now at Wisconsin Watch?

Yeah, I can start.

So, I guess this is

budget-related, as is a lot of my work right now, but I'm looking in to Medicaid in particular and full Medicaid expansion in the state of Wisconsin, especially what's at play with federal funding and the big, beautiful bill, as President Trump has named it.

So kind of looking at how, in the past, Wisconsin has not accepted full expansion of Medicaid, full federal expansion of Medicaid, and part of the reasoning for

Republicans in Wisconsin not accepting that is because they're worried that one day the federal government would pull the rug out from underneath the states and the states would end up having to pay a lot more to cover individuals that qualify under full expansion.

So I've been looking at that and kind of what's going on with this current budget cycle.

What would be at risk?

What wouldn't be at risk if this federal bill

is passed and limits Medicaid in states and whether or not if states pass it, if Wisconsin were to pass full Medicaid expansion now before the beginning of 2026, how much money they would lose compared to not passing it.

So I've been doing some research into that and kind of understanding the broader, more holistic.

View of what's going on with full Medicaid expansion because it's a pretty in-depth topic and there's a lot of facets to it So

Todd Allbaugh

there really are it's one of those things we're going a rabbit hole and then you know I would think that for a journalist any journalist, but it's like okay, how do I take all this and and Put it down there and in digestible parts for the average reader who's not going to sit there and read through this or or or pay attention to it like other folks might

mm-hmm

Definitely.

Yeah,

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it's been

long process.

Todd Allbaugh

Lots of coffee, isn't it?

Oh yeah, definitely.

And, Noe, what have you been working on right now at Wisconsin Watch?

I think the larger project has been some of the budget coverage that we've been doing, so kind of looking into the budget motions, comparing that to what was an Evers budget, and just trying to get really digestible information about what's going on with the budget.

And Maggie and I have been working on a lot of that together.

I think areas that I've been watching

specifically are probably education related.

So some DPI, Department of Public Instruction, and then also looking into a UW system.

I know you did some reporting on a proposed cut, potential cut to the UW system.

And that seems to be kind of a sticking point in budget negotiations every year that the UW system budget comes up.

So yeah, looking into those kind of topics within the budget has been what I've been focused on.

Todd Allbaugh

And yeah, I mean to your point again, they had on the agenda join finance committee did last week the University of Wisconsin system budget I know I know it's you know universities are What is it called?

Wisconsin universities, Wisconsin?

I don't know

universities of Wisconsin is what they

Todd Allbaugh

say.

Thank you I'll always call a system because you know, that's always what it's been up until like the last year or so But that was on the agenda

And then they decided to punt and they just keep putting it off and off again.

It's going to be interesting.

And some of the things that I've heard is that they may that the the consensus may be in order to get a budget passed that they they just maintain funding at or near the current budget levels.

They're not going to get the big eighty seven million cut.

They're not also going to get any increases.

But the compromise might be to essentially leave it where it's at.

Have either one of you heard any any new information you're reporting on that.

I don't have any new information on that

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, it's my Maggie.

Yeah, I mean Kind of the same with with no I think that a lot of these conversations have been kind of happening in closed caucus So it'll be interesting to see what they're ultimately gonna do possibly tomorrow You know, I think that there have been

rumors out there, whisperings of trying to negotiate reforms to possibly increase funding, but we'll see what actually happens there.

Todd Allbaugh

Let me ask you this, because I just love having young journalists on.

I like talking to young people in general just because it gives me a sense of the future, right?

You guys both decide to go into journalism.

Do you think that for people in your age group, your social group,

Do you have to I know this isn't the mission necessarily

Wisconsin

Todd Allbaugh

watch but but you guys think of things in terms of okay How am I gonna connect with my friends that get most their news on tiktok or do you think that there is when I would consider legacy media type of Appetite for your generation knowing than a Maggie

That's a good question, you know, I yeah, I do know a lot of people that you know resort to social media for a lot of their news I also know a lot of people who

do, you know, go the typical news routes still.

I think a lot of, I've noticed a lot of bigger, like news organizations like Wisconsin watch often, you know, have social media channels that they share bite-sized previews of stories, et cetera.

So I think that's...

Todd Allbaugh

You both do a great work.

I appreciate you coming on.

Best of luck.

We'll have you back soon.

You can check out the work at wisconsinwatch.org.

Noe Goldhaber and Maggie Schreiner.

Thank you so much for being on.

We appreciate you both have a great day.

Thank you so

much.

Todd Allbaugh

Bye.

All right.

Thank you.

Come on back.

Kathryn Lake

We'll wrap up the show for Green Bay after this on the Civic Media.

Todd Allbaugh

Welcome back to the top of all show on the civic media ready to work where it is now eight minutes before the hour of four o'clock at the top of the hour.

ABC, CPS or James Kelly News, depending on which of our great stations you're listening to, filed by a check of weather, a great sports reporter, Mike Clemens.

Talk about a guy getting it done was the Brewer's series over the weekend.

Brewer's dropped one yesterday.

I believe an extra innings, but a well fought game.

Clemens is always getting it done.

He'll have the latest for you on sports around the state of Wisconsin.

Jordan Love.

got married yesterday.

I'm not sure if Clemens was there, but wouldn't that be something?

Clemens will give you the details of the Jordan Love reception if he was there.

No, he he's not that he's a reporter reporter He's not gonna go to a private event and report on it unless they tell him he can anyway Clemens will be here Just down the street.

We're here in Green Bay reporting today doing the second hour of the show from our great studios at WGBW here in downtown Green Bay, Wisconsin and then it's gonna be The Maggie Dawn show from four until six followed by an all-new edition of Pete Schwabba and Nightlight

with Conrad, just feet from where I'm sitting right now, the great Pete Schwabble followed by Robert Pilot and Native Roots Radio, and then it will be Rick Smith across

America.

Want to do this packed quite a little earlier.

Again, many thanks for him for hosting the first hour of the show today.

For our listeners on WCFW, the TAP, you know, Claire Chippewa Valley area, a special weather statement from the National Weather Service, a strong thunderstorm will impact eastern Dunn.

Eau Claire, Southeastern Baron, Chippewa, South Central Chippewa, the correct pronunciation, South Central Rusk and North Eastern Peppin counties until 4 p.m.

At 302 train spotters reported a strong thunderstorm near Fall Creek moving to the east at 30 miles per hour strong winds and perhaps nickel sized hail look at the weather radar right now We can see a strong cell just to the north of Eau Claire right now also a cell between Eau Claire and mars field all this appears to be moving off to the Northeast I believe right now so again for those areas in the

WCFW listening area a strong thunderstorm not technically severe right now, but a strong thunderstorm in that area So be aware of that otherwise scattered showers maybe for our listeners of WBZH Buzz the north in the Hayward area right now just north of Hayward actually between Hayward and Duluth a few showers right now and also around the lacrosse area a couple of showers just south of Wausau a shower as well, but otherwise 85 degrees

Humanity at summertime in the state of Wisconsin.

All right, Somers, something big happened on this date in 1908.

Get this, today is asteroid day because Earth saw the largest asteroid in recorded history on this date 117 years ago.

I

did not

Todd Allbaugh

know that.

Republican Teddy Roosevelt was president on June 30th, 1908.

And I'll mess this up, but it says when the Tunguska, I think that's right, Tunguska asteroid named for a nearby river exploded over a Siberian forest.

The asteroid was 70, 70, 70 yards across and zipping along at nine miles per second.

It exploded five miles above the ground so no crater was seen.

But the force was 250 times greater than the atom bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

The shock wave flattened trees in an 830 square mile area and knocked people down and broke windows hundreds of miles away.

Here's the thing.

It could, keyword could, happen again.

However, today's telescopes find near-earth objects early.

And we have the know-how to use spacecraft with explosives to alter the path of objects on a collision course with Earth.

Unless funding cuts eliminate those programs.

How about that?

As if we didn't have enough to worry about with spending cuts in DC.

What what if they get rid of the the technology to stop asteroids zombers who knows

and I had read about this event I just forgot it was on this

Todd Allbaugh

had you really

yeah a while ago I did a bunch of research into some of the biggest just Explosions and asteroids and stuff and it's insane how many trees got destroyed and how at most three people died That's crazy enormous explosion

Todd Allbaugh

Just

because the area was so sparsely populated instead.

You know like 80 million trees got

destroyed, but only three.

Todd Allbaugh

Not a good day to be a tree is that on this date back in 1908.

Wow.

I am.

It's Johnny Carson likes to say or like to say.

I did not know that.

So on this day back in 1908, again, big shout out to step mom, Mary, all ball on her 80th birthday.

Great and by the way, she's doing fantastic spry gets around sharp as a tack in the old head area See, she's doing great.

So many many happy birthdays many more for her and regards to her happy birthday, Mary Have a great day there for the rest of the day on this 30th of June tomorrow on the program big holiday edition of what's worse ketchup or mustard

I don't want to get into insiders, but we'll we'll discuss ketchup or mustard also going to continue on follow a new following what's going on big budget week Donald Trump now saying that he's okay if they don't they meeting Congress don't meet his artificial deadline of July 4th.

He just wants it done But there is this big vote Lollapalooza where they call whatever they call it now Voter Rama Voter Rama Voter Rama you say Rama

I say Rama, you say tomato, I say tomato, tomato anyway.

They're doing a big voter rama out there in DC and it ain't no good at all as my grandma used to say because what's coming out of DC right now is going to be absolutely catastrophic for health care in the state of Wisconsin.

Call Ron Johnson.

Call your Republican House members.

and tell them to vote no on this really bad bill.

Also going to see if the joint finance committee means there is a deadline of today on that.

Looks like that's going to be extended.

Many thanks to Pat Krightlow, Trigvie Olson, State Senator Kelder Royce, also Maggie Schweiner, and Noe Goldhaber from Wisconsin Watch.

Zommer is doing a great job as always.

Back in Madison tomorrow.

Many thanks to all the folks here at WGBW as well.

Maggie Dawn is next.

Todd Allball, say whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in.

Do not give up.

Keep banging your drum.

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