Mapping Some Lines? (Hour 1)

Live from the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba Show.

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Good afternoon, everybody.

I'm Todd Albaugh along with Mr. Parker Olson, our engineer and producer for a vacation in Zomers for the day.

It is six minutes past the hour of two o'clock.

Welcome, everyone, on this Thursday, June 26, 2025.

It is a great day to be a Wisconsinite here at the World Headquarters of Downtown Madison of Civic Media.

Overcast skies right now, a sun trying to peek through, a little sultry, a little sticky in downtown Madison, and big puffy clouds.

It feels Parker Olsen like there could be a downpour at any moment.

That's kind of how it's felt for a while now.

You just kind of walk around and the air is thick.

That's a very good word.

Like you just got to kind of walk through the air.

That's not how I like my air.

No, you don't.

I like it nice and crisp.

Fall, are you a fall guy?

Oh, yeah.

Football season, right?

It's perfect.

Absolutely.

I appreciate you being here, Parker.

Of course, Parker, newer to Civic Media, but is doing a fine job as the new producer of Mornings with Pat Krightlow every morning from six until nine across the Civic Media Ready Network.

Parker, how you liking it so much is Krightlow treating you right.

Crate Low is treating me good.

He's got to get me on that pontoon boat, though.

I don't know.

I'm not sure if I'm really in the club until I've been

on the boat.

Well, I haven't actually been on it.

I've seen it.

I've stood next to it, but I haven't been on it yet.

Did he let you wear the captain's hat?

No, but I didn't ask.

But it's a cool hat.

It does look like a cool

hat.

But you do a great job and happy to have you here.

I love the fact we have more young people on board.

You actually went to school for radio and broadcasting and media, which I really, really appreciate as well.

Well, thank you.

And you went to your graduate, no, recent graduate of UW Whitewater.

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

It's a good place to go.

National Baseball

Champions.

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If we have any younger listeners,

hey,

think about Whitewater.

It's a good place, especially if you want to go to journalism.

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Well, that's the nice thing about those smaller schools is those opportunities are actually there.

You don't have to wait for like two years before you can actually do anything.

Agreed.

That's why I went at the time, back in the ancient times, that's why I went to Plattville because they had a great, I would say, Plattville at the time.

had either the first or second best broadcasting program in the state.

And I went there and immediately I was on the air for better or worse.

Yeah.

Probably

for better.

At this point for better.

Ask Kevin O'Connor and other people that could set the record straight.

Glad to have you here Parker, as long as it will be back.

We think tomorrow he is at a gnarly concert.

tonight.

We'll see if he's recovered in time tomorrow.

Otherwise, Parker, we may have to have you back tomorrow.

He's getting too wild.

I don't know.

We'll see.

But Zommer's will be back tomorrow.

Lots on the show today coming up at the bottom of the hour.

Our old friend and ongoing contributor, Matt Flynn, two-time chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin.

An attorney and author and veteran of the United States Navy will be in with us via StreamYard.

Talk about some of these big Supreme Court cases in Wisconsin.

Gonna get to that in just a bit, couple big rulings.

What I find the most interesting is yesterday the Wisconsin State Supreme Court said, no way, we are not going to hear a new case brought to us by Democrats on redistricting on the maps for the congressional maps.

Now, last year, they got new maps for the state legislature, but that was different.

There was a different set of circumstances.

We'll get into that in a bit, and we'll talk later why I believe that the liberal leaning now, Wisconsin Supreme Court did the right thing yesterday by saying no to Democrats.

We'll explain why.

Matt Flynn will be in as well.

Always great to have Matt Flynn here at the bottom of the hour.

And hour number two,

It's going to be a great edition today of What's Worse in Hour Two.

It's your Know Your Cuts of Meat edition.

This is such a hard pick.

This is brutal.

No, it's Bratz versus Burgers in Hour Two.

We will ask you about that.

I say we'll explain Hour Two.

Parker, I'm sure you're too young to remember, but Letterman back on Letterman show, the CBS edition, they did this great segment.

It went on for quite a while.

They did it weekly, usually.

I think it was Thursday night.

And Letterman would go into the audience, and he would pick out a random person in the audience, and then they would flash up, cut to meat, and see if the person could tell what cut of meat this was.

Identify that meat?

Yeah, identify the cut of meat.

Know your cut to meat.

So we'll play the oblong edition of Know Your Cuts of Meat in hour two.

One of my favorite all-time letterman bits, actually.

That's all coming up.

We'll have lots of news to get to, but first.

I want to get to the weather for you a little bit.

This is serious stuff here.

And as we have a number of, well, not a number, one predominant, we have a tornado watch.

Remember, a watch is when conditions are favorable, but nothing has been seen either on the ground or radar right now.

We're just letting you know ahead of time.

It is for a large block of Western Wisconsin.

In particular, our listeners on WCFW, the TAP, you know, Claire, the tornado watch is just south.

It starts just south of Eau Claire.

goes down through Whitehall and Trepolo.

are also our listeners at WLCX in La Crosse.

It includes all of La Crosse County and our listeners on WRCE in Richland Center.

It includes Richland County and Vernon County as well.

And maybe even a few of our listeners at FHR in Wisconsin Rapids.

So that kind of entire Midwestern section of Wisconsin is under a tornado watch until eight o'clock tonight for listeners just south of W.

in Wausau and certainly for FHR in Wisconsin Rapids, those folks are under a flood watch.

So again, it could be some heavy rains.

Some grounds are already saturated.

So be on the lookout, be prepared.

And I know I say this and you wouldn't think you'd have to and it's kind of trite, but it's true.

Turn around, don't drown.

In other words, if you come up to a road that is covered in water and you cannot see,

the concrete or the black top, do not think that you're cool or that you're driving a duck boat and you can get through it because oftentimes the road is washed out underneath of what you can see and it just caves in or your car stalls out and then there are good EMT and emergency responder personnel has to get out and save your story posterior.

So it'll put them at risk.

Just be cognizant.

If you come across a flooded area, turn around.

find a different alternative and don't drown.

My mom, I think it was in 2018, I think, is when Madison had that really terrible flooding.

I think it was in that summer.

My mom was out, she was doing a group that she runs, and that night she was coming back and went down a wrong road.

And I was well above her waist

in

water in the car.

Yeah,

it can happen quickly.

So

yeah, it can happen really quickly.

So just I'll look at it weather radar right now live weather radar We can see a cell of storms not severe, but a cell of storms just north and west of Richland Center So I would say right around the Lefarge area and that is moving to the west right now also a thunderstorm cell around Baraboo and Reinsburg Just south of Wisconsin Dells and another cell just south of lacrosse

crossing the Mississippi River and going into Vernon County.

There is a large line of storms and strong storms from kind of Eau Claire.

over towards the Twin Cities Minneapolis down through Rochester down into Iowa all the way down to Des Moines.

That entire line is moving to the west, pardon me, to the east right now.

So that is the reason for this tornado watch in effect for Western Wisconsin until 8 p.m.

and the Flash Flood Watch in effect until through later on tonight.

We'll keep you updated.

Britt Irleau, our meteorologist, will be in to keep us updated as well and stay apprised to your favorite weather.

source to, to, uh, be, be in the know when it comes to weather 14 models, 15 minutes now past the hour of two o'clock.

Want to start in the news on this breaking.

Well, it's not really breaking anymore, but new news today.

Headline from the Associated Press key Medicaid provision in Trump's big tax cut and spending bill is found to violate Senate rules.

This is.

This is I know this gets a little insider baseball stuff and who knows how they'll try to screw it around it.

But I think at least for me, you take every bit of hope you can possibly have of what's going on in Washington to say, well, maybe they can't do everything that they want to do in terms of cutting Medicaid.

Here now from the Associated Press says the Senate parliamentarian.

has advised that a key medical provider tax overhaul that is central to President Donald Trump's big tax cut and spending bill does not adhere to procedural rules.

Delivering a crucial blow to Republicans rushing to finish the massive package this week.

The guidance today for the parliamentarian is rarely ignored and it forces GOP leaders to consider options.

Senate leaders could try to revise or strip it from the package otherwise.

The provision will be challenged during floor votes.

It will require a 60 vote threshold to keep it in a tall order in the narrowly split Senate.

Democrats are unified against the Republican president's bill.

Republican leaders are relying on the provider tax change to save billions of dollars for the medical Medicaid health care program for the massive tax cut package.

But they've been struggling to rally support because several GOP senators warn it could harm rural hospitals who depend on the funds.

The outcome is a setback for Senate Republicans who hope to launch votes on the package by the end of this week, i.e.

tomorrow, to meet Trump's 4th of July deadline for passage, that from the Associated Press at this hour, to put it down where the chickens could get at it, as Judge Weissman once said.

What this really does the Senate Parliamentary Senate Parliamentarian Yes, I get paid to talk for a living the Parliamentarian is not something you hear a lot about It is someone who serves yes at the pleasure of the Senate and the Senate majority leader But that individual is seen as pretty darn close to nonpartisan and they're there to interpret the rules of the Senate the Senate

each house gets to set their own rules.

And this is why we've seen before, you know, on both sides, they say, well, we're going to blow everything up in the Senate, and we're not going to allow filibustering.

But then the other side could do the same thing when they get back in power.

So the Senate, I think, you know, as someone who worked in the House of Representatives for about five years under Ford, Wisconsin.

Congressman Scott Kluge, the Senate is much more sticklers when it comes to following internal institutional rules, for better or for worse.

In this case, if they adhere to their own rules and the person they put in charge of interpreting their rules, it may actually be a good thing here because the parliamentarian has said, yeah, guys, mostly guys.

This doesn't meet muster of your very own rules and it would take 60 votes to get past that So we'll keep a we'll keep an eye on this we talked yesterday about this article in the Hill Republican Senator Josh Hawley from Missouri a guy.

I don't Say this about much But I agreed with what he said yesterday saying that the bill has to be different or

Rural hospitals in Missouri, let alone Wisconsin are going to suffer and very likely go out of business Not business go out of business And then we said yesterday that's very serious because Here in Wisconsin sock County right below Wisconsin Dell sock County the public Used to be called the county home the public nursing home in sock County is looking at going under right now

already because of a lack of funding.

Now put on some of these Republican, uh, proposed cuts, further cuts under Trump's bill could be the demise of a lot more nursing home facilities, rural hospitals around Wisconsin.

And that is why it matters.

Come on back.

More news headlines.

Matt Flynn at the bottom of the hour.

And it's a Parker Ramaday here on the Todd all ball show.

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We're coming up after the bottom of the hour update.

Mr. Matt Flynn will be in talking about Supreme Court decisions here in Wisconsin.

A lot of people cut out big checks on the progressive left during the Supreme Court race in the spring said if we could only get Judge Crawford on the bench, we'll bring back this lawsuit that the

conservative, controlled, uh, uh, Supreme Court said no to and we'll get new maps for, for our congressional lines and, and we'll have more Democrats elected in Wisconsin and they elected Susan Crawford.

And now the liberal Wisconsin Supreme Court yesterday said, nay, nay, from strangers, stay away.

Did they have that still in school when you were going through school?

No, they

didn't.

So I was going through grade school.

It was like a whole thing about the police department would come in, and it was for grade school kids.

And so I had to stay safe.

And the little puppeter mascot to connect with the kids was called Patch the Pony.

And he would say, for nay nay, from strangers, stay away.

A

pony says nay nay.

Anyway, the Supreme Court has said the Wisconsin Supreme Court said, nope, we're not taking it up either, even though the liberals now control it.

I think it was the right decision.

I'll discuss it with Matt Flynn after the bottom of the hour.

We'll tell you why.

Take your phone calls as well.

If you want to give us a ring a ling.

eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two be careful Just be gentle Parker.

He's taking screening the calls today and he'll do a great job But just we have great callers.

This is new technology for me, too The new booth the the coat closet over there is not privy to telephones

Here's something new this is we've been talking about this for for quite a while here last

a month, the Joint Committee on Finance, better known as JFC.

I know that you would think the Joint Committee on Finance would be called JCF, but no, the acronym is JFC.

They have to make a JFC,

so

you think it means something

else.

I guess Joint Finance Committee, but anyway, the Joint Committee on Finance of the Wisconsin State Legislature, controlled by Republicans, has been not meeting State Senator Keldor Royce, Democrat.

Madison has been on the show last month and a half saying, when are we going to meet?

Trying to get my Republican colleagues to meet.

They tried to meet here a couple of weeks ago and cut $87 million out of the University of Wisconsin system budget.

We were fortunate enough to help break that story and get it out early.

They got some angry phone calls.

They said, oops, can't do that.

At least not right now.

They tried to regroup and now there is consternation in the Senate Republican caucus.

All reports are that Senate Republicans do not have the votes to pass a budget right now.

And so you got Senator Kappenga.

Correct pronunciation.

We found that out by calling his office.

Lovely people by the way.

Great journalism

there.

Because there was a lot of discussion.

Oh, I know.

Yeah, I'm serious.

And Dan Schaefer, our political editor here and founder of the Reconpopulation Area, of course he had it right.

But some of us didn't.

And so I thought I'm going to settle this.

So I called Senator Cap and his office and a lovely person there.

She answered the phone.

I said, how do you pronounce your boss's name?

And she told me.

She said, think of Cap and Gown.

I said, that's great.

Thank you.

Very kind.

So Senator Kappenga and also Senator Steve Nass right now say they're a no on the on the state budget.

So Republicans try to get their poop in a group as my former Pan teacher Lauren Jensen used to used to say.

She'd look at me and she goes, you cannot get your poop in a group.

Anyway, so now what they've decided to do and you've heard us use the term.

Friday afternoon news dump usually in politics and media The best time to announce something to do something that you don't want the public to know about is a Friday afternoon Because a lot of times media folks will cut out early for the weekend People are especially this time of year packing up to go camping for the weekend and they're not paying attention

But as my former social studies teacher Ken Lewis is fond of saying remember you're never so poor that you can't pay attention So we're paying attention here on a on a Thursday and I will tell you that the joint finance committee has announced that they are meeting tomorrow a Friday at 10 a.m over 50 5 0

You heard that right.

50 items on the agenda, including the University of Wisconsin system budget, children's and families, tourism, ag trade and consumer protection, all the health services stuff, all the correction stuff, building commission.

I mean, I've been around long enough, spent 30 years working in politics.

This is a completely undoable schedule if you're gonna do it right.

We'll see what happens tomorrow.

And we'll be here, we'll be reporting on it as soon as we come on the air.

But there's only two ways, in my opinion, based on experience, that they're gonna do this.

A, it's already cut and dried.

And they're gonna come in with one big motion for all 50 things.

It's gonna be an up or down vote.

It'll be done in 15 minutes.

It'll either be that or this will drag on into Saturday morning and they'll have a vote at about 2.30 on Saturday morning in the dead of night.

If they were gonna get this done now, who knows?

Come tomorrow, they may cancel it at nine o'clock in the morning.

They don't think they have the votes.

But if they're gonna go ahead at this meeting, that means that they think they have the votes.

But there's no way you can have proper debate and go through each one of these agencies in one afternoon.

50 items of JFC.

We'll stay on top of that.

Come on back a little news weather sports update.

Pam Yankee and the Midwest Farm Report is next and then Matt Flynn directly after this.

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We'll get to that before this is all over.

And a United States Navy veteran, he is Matt Flynn.

He joins us from his home in Milwaukee via StreamYard.

Matt, good afternoon.

Thanks for coming on.

Good to be with you, Todd.

I always like being on the Todd Oboe show.

You and I have been friends a long time.

You got a great show.

Well, I appreciate that.

Here's what a great guy, a great friend, Matt, is.

These breaking Supreme Court decisions came down late yesterday.

And I thought, well, I'm not sure how much time I'm going to spend on it.

And as the morning wore on, I'm like, I really need a better expert on this.

And Matt's at lunch for good and sake.

And then he goes, no, no, no, I'll be home in time.

And here you are, Matt.

I can't appreciate you enough.

Thank you very much.

My pleasure, gonna be with you, Tom.

So let's get into this.

This from wispolitics.com, just to set this up, but I want your reaction to it.

Wispolitics saying, quote, Republicans are hailing a unanimous decision by the state Supreme Court to reject two lawsuits asking the justices to redraw Wisconsin's congressional maps ahead of the 2026 election.

The request received national attention with control of the narrowly divided house at stake next fall.

That's particularly true with Republican lawmakers in Ohio and Texas looking to redraw their maps to boost their chances of picking up additional seats.

The two petitions for original action in Wisconsin were viewed as some by an opportunity for Democrats to pick up two house seats in Wisconsin with Republicans now enjoying a 6-2 advantage in the congressional delegation.

But Matt, yesterday the Wisconsin Supreme Court said no, that we're not taking this up.

They did not give a reason why.

This was a lawsuit in part filed by the Elias Group.

Help me understand this.

I think it was the exact same suit they filed last year with a conservative controlled Wisconsin Supreme Court.

And I think Matt,

A lot of Democrats wrote some pretty heavy checks thinking, you know, well, this'll be great.

We get Crawford in there.

We'll get new maps.

Is it possible that some Democrats are trying to get a return on their investment?

Matt, a refund.

No, I think it's more than that.

I mean, Elias is a heck of a lawyer, and I think he's on the right track.

There's a couple of things to keep in mind.

One is his file is an original action.

While they're permitted to do that, a lot of times the Supreme Court will say, no, we're not going to take an original action and be the fact finders ourselves, let it bubble up through the rest of the judicial system.

So I have no idea what they're thinking is on that.

But secondly, remember something, they did signal that they would reapportion the state legislature.

At least they took it up.

And the Republicans, in effect, scrambled and ultimately agreed with the Democrats.

on new maps.

Now, many Democrats, on one of them, felt that it didn't go far enough.

But you know something there's an old saying about settlements, that if both sides are unhappy, it was a good settlement.

So the fact is we have eight congressional seats, we have the two Democrats, yet we get half or so of the congressional vote.

There are a couple of reasons why they might not have taken this thing.

One is they'll let it bubble up through the court system.

But the other thing is the U.S.

Supreme Court has ruled that you can't, ungerrimander, gerrymander, just to kind of cure what you think are partisan objectives.

You can't do that.

So they have to rely on the state constitution.

The third congressional district looks very wobbly for the Republicans this year, with Van Orton.

Van Orton's terrible, and we have some darn good candidate over there.

Then secondly, the first congressional district, you know, you're talking about Racine, Kenosha, Janesville, Beloit.

Yes, it's Republican, but it's not rock solid necessarily Republican.

So it is possible that there are two seats in play, and they want to sit back and wait and see what happens.

So I don't...

criticize them for doing it.

It's not a question of appealing to me for writing a check or not.

I didn't write checks to accomplish the result.

I do it because I believe in the Democratic Party.

But I would say this does not surprise me.

There are procedural reasons.

There are reasons with Wisconsin and federal precedent.

And it does not mean that at some point they won't do

it.

Yeah.

And this is your reaction to this, Matt.

is a great example of why I admire and respect you as a Democrat.

I came up through the Republican Party.

I left it in 2011 for reasons I've talked about on this show before because my former party was into voter suppression, which, you know, I just wasn't into that.

So I said adios.

But because there were on social media last night, yesterday afternoon, there were a lot of Democrats who were salty.

to say the least at this decision, thinking that, well, if they got Crawford in there, this is gonna be a slam dunk.

I agree with you, Matt.

I think this is good because I think if people really say, oh, no, I don't want MAP's favoring either party, I just want what's right, then you should be happy with this decision because I think that, I don't think that government is made better by...

major party swings on either side.

It's made better when you have people elected like this current iteration of the Liberal Supreme Court of Wisconsin that say, we're going to do the right thing.

We're going to follow the Constitution and we're going to follow the law.

And I think that's what they did here.

Yeah.

And there's a couple of things.

I'll just differ just a little bit on that one.

And that is that it is still gerrymandered at the congressional level.

It really is.

They are looking at possibly at the third and maybe at the first as being in play.

We have good candidates in the third.

In the first, I don't know who else is going to be taking it on.

However, not other states play by these rules.

So for instance, four years ago, New York Democrats re-jerrymandered so that they would have picked up a few extra seats.

the highest court in New York said no, even though they're Democrats.

On the other hand, North Carolina and Texas shamelessly, shamelessly gerrymandered.

So you could say from a Wisconsin point of view, we don't want to do this, but because others are so bad, there's such no good nicks, we should do something to offset them nationally.

But you can't, if you're a fair judicial system like we have in Wisconsin, you can't get into this tit for tat business trying to

solve what North Carolina and Texas did.

We're talking with Matt Flynn, two-time chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, an attorney and author and a Navy veteran.

Matt, I don't disagree with you.

I agree that the current iteration of Wisconsin's congressional maps are gerrymandered.

I want to come back to that in a minute.

But first of all, let's keep Todd honest here on, explain a little bit my understanding.

I think that one of the people, because people will say, well, they, to your point, Matt, they basically forced

an agreement between both sides on this on the state legislative maps was different.

Correct me if I'm wrong Matt, but the the main part of that lawsuit that went before the or suit that went before the Wisconsin Supreme Court was that there were non-contiguous parts of legislative districts.

In other words, instead of having a solid line and a legislative district being within that one boundary, that one line, there were literally islands.

of one district in somebody else's district.

Well, that's clearly, in my opinion, as a non-lawyer, unconstitutional.

We don't have that, am I correct, in Wisconsin's, even though they're gerrymandered, we don't have that in the congressional lines.

That is true, and you've hit an important point.

Now, think about this.

The U.S.

Supreme Court has a case that says you can't redistrict by judicial fiat

tend to do a gerrymander.

You just can't, a political gerrymander, not a racial but political, you can't do it.

So therefore the Wisconsin Supreme Court has to comb the state constitution to look for ways to do it under the state constitution.

Now the easiest way to do that with these non-contiguous districts, I think it may have been just south of Mattis and the, you know, somewhere the Oregon area or something and some guy had a little

you know, enclave of old ten miles away.

That's clearly a violation of the Wisconsin Constitution.

So the Wisconsin Supreme Court signaled we'll take it on that basis that scared the Republicans who were shameless gerrymanders.

I have absolutely no brief for them.

They're dishonest as hell.

But they said, oh, my God, if these guys get in there and use that as an excuse, we're screwed.

So therefore they made concessions.

I felt they didn't make enough.

But anyway, Evers felt differently.

Evers and I felt differently on occasion.

So therefore he took it.

OK.

And we picked up state Senate seats.

We picked up in Milwaukee.

We picked up what had been a Republican state Senate seat.

So you have to build incrementally.

there is not the same issue in the congressional districts.

In other words, you don't have the guy in Janesville having a little spot up in Warsaw.

You just have that.

So they probably looked at it and said, as a Supreme Court, if we take this, it's going to be overturned by the 7th Circuit in the U.S.

Supreme Court.

So we're going to say no, but it doesn't mean for never.

And there are ways of racial gerrymandering and other things.

We have essentially a barbell district, Madison and Milwaukee.

two of them, and that's it, and the rest of it.

And I'm going to say one final thing to my own party.

I have good friends throughout the state, and some people up in northern Wisconsin.

Remember, Dave Obey used to represent it, my friend, and so on.

I said, it's being gerrymandered.

You know what they said to me?

They said, Matt, you could slice it any way you want it, but in the present environment, it'll be very hard for a Democrat to get elected up here.

That's what they said.

because of all the social issues and all the other stuff and the split in our own party.

So we have an obligation as Democrats to look at this and get rid of all this identity politics business of picking candidates and just getting down to business and putting in good, solid Democrats.

I'm a Democrat in the Truman, John Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Franklin Roosevelt tradition.

And I think we have to take some responsibility from our own candidate.

If you want to have a question for Matt or a comment on the Supreme Court decision yesterday, not to take up the case on congressional lines here in Wisconsin, give us a call 855-752-4842.

855-752-4842.

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About three minutes here, Matt, before the first break, I want to go back to this part about gerrymandering.

and I agree that the current lines, congressional lines in Wisconsin are gerrymandered.

But here is the thing, and my late great friend, former state senator Tim Cullen, former Senate Majority Leader, I know you do Senator Cullen as well, he used to, I mean, he worked with my former boss, Dale Schultz, a Republican, on fair maps.

And he'd say, Todd, you know, our party has been as guilty as the other side in years past.

Now, more recently, it's been much more Republican, but Democrats aren't held harmless here.

And I think the thing that people need to think about

When you brought up the Third Congressional District, for those that don't know, it basically goes just south of Rice Lake, all the way down the western side of the state to Dubuque and to the Illinois state line.

And then in the middle, it has this goofy, like a dog tail that goes over and takes in Stephen's point and then goes back over.

People should be aware that that map was originally, the main part of that map in the Third Congressional District was drawn that way, not for a Republican,

But it was drawn that way in 2002 for Democrat Ron Kind to make that seat more democratic.

That's just a fact, Matt.

Yeah.

Well, two things to keep in mind.

Ron Kind, and he used to practice in my law firm.

Good friend of mine, great congressman.

And Al Baldus was a great congressman, Democrat.

So a Democrat can win over there.

He can win over there.

Right now, we have several good candidates.

And I think that's in play.

Now.

is the first district in play, Racine, Kenosha, Jamesville, Beloit.

I don't know.

But I think it is with the right candidates.

So I think that what the Supreme Court said is look.

We got away with doing this the way we wanted to, and we'll get back to it as we get on.

Alright, we'll come back for Matt Flynn.

Redistricting was on his mind, and what's he writing about?

All that more, don't go to areas Matt Flynn will be back directly on The All Balls Show, on the Civic Media.

Ready,

network?

I hear the train are coming It's rolling round the bend And I ain't seen the sunshine Since I don't know when I'm stuck in Folsom prison And time keeps dragging on But that train keeps rolling All down the slant and tall

Welcome back to the Tahle Bowl Show on the Civic Media Ready Network, Matt Flynn

is in with us here.

A two-time chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin and attorney and author and a Navy veteran.

Joining us via stream yard in Milwaukee, Matt, always a pleasure here.

Want to get to

One important weather announcement here, Matt.

Just stay with us here.

Just stay and by and looking at my phone here.

I believe we have some heavy weather coming into Juneau County at this hour.

And yes, as a matter of fact, we have a tornado.

warning now for Juno County.

This is for the southwest corner of Juno County.

Former Governor Tommy Thompson is hometown, Elroy, Wisconsin under this right now as well as Hillsboro in Vernon County and has just been issued until 3 15 this afternoon.

So again, a tornado warning for southwest Juno County and northeast

Vernon County and could well be heading down into a part of sock County soon so particularly for our listeners ought to be RCE in Richland Center that may be Listing in the Hillsboro or Elroy area a tornado warning for Elroy Hillsboro in that area until 315 will continue to keep you posted back with Matt Flynn now that before we move on on this ruling by the Wisconsin State Supreme Court yesterday on

taking up this case on congressional gerrymandering.

I just want to say this, get your reaction to it, and then I'll let it go.

I helped run John Sharples' race.

He was a... Today would be considered a centrist or even a liberal Democrat.

He was a pro-choice Republican.

Pardon me.

He was a pro-choice Republican.

He was a professor here at EW Madison in 1998.

He lost in the primary.

He ran, he was the nominee in 2000, took on Tammy Baldwin in her first re-elected Congress.

It was a less than 1% difference, the Baldwin won that.

And the Republicans wanted Sharpless to take her on again in 2002.

And that's when the maps were up.

And John Sharpless had a phone call with then Congressman Paul Ryan.

And he said, well, what are the maps gonna look like?

and they basically said, look, this is gonna be an incumbent map, there's a deal made, that it's off the record, and the incumbents of both parties are gonna get the maps they want, and that's why Sharples didn't run again.

And so my point is, in Wisconsin, historically, the congressional delegation, they basically decide what it's gonna be, and whoever controls the legislature goes along with it, and so again, I just don't think when it comes to the congressional lines, this is all one party.

Well, I'll disagree to this extent, Todd.

That was true up till Scott Walker.

Scott Walker imposed severe gerrymandering.

If I were on the Wisconsin Supreme Court now, I would have voted to take this case.

But what I'm saying is, is that I know these justices, they're good people, and I know why I think they did not.

But you have to keep something in mind.

The Sixth Tarantulas on the U.S.

Supreme Court would have overturned any unjerrymandering they did based on Supreme Court precedent.

And you have Trump, who is imposing commie government on us.

He's imposing, they called it authoritarian.

Let's call it what it is, Putin government.

The justices have to, in my view, be careful about how they do it to make sure that it sticks.

I would have aired on the side of going ahead anyway.

But so what?

It's not the end of the line.

This case can always be brought again.

Speaking of the Supreme Court of Wisconsin, Matt, I think everybody's like, OK, fine.

All these elections are over.

I even hate to bring this up, Matt Flynn.

There is another Wisconsin Supreme Court race coming up next year.

As we say, the bad Bradley, Rebecca Bradley, is indicating that she might not run again.

This may be an open seat.

Right, and I'd like the judges of this state to listen to what I'm about to say very, very carefully.

The Democratic Party is about to make the same mistake they made in the Senate race against Ron Johnson last time, which is squeezing out anybody that they haven't ratified.

What happened then is Mandela Barnes, a great guy, could have won, but the identity politics cult squeezed out the other three.

And he looked as if he didn't have legitimacy, and he darned your one anyway.

In this case, they've all gotten behind Chris Taylor.

They have made calls to a distinguished judge in Burnett County, told her to get out of the race.

A distinguished judge in Milwaukee County, said, get out of the race, trying to clear it for her.

Chris Taylor does not have support.

She's not a good candidate.

I'm not going to vote for her.

My message to the judges of the state, there's more than 300 trial judges and dozens of appellate judges.

Many of you are very good people.

You're independent.

I don't care which way you lean.

You're honest and you know the Constitution.

Somebody out there declare for this seat now.

It's not too late.

The identity politics cult will draw in their horns if anybody else runs.

But by trying to ram Chris Taylor down everybody's throat since she does not have support.

What's going to happen is that you'll end up with her, and sadly, Rebecca Bradley could win, and we do not want that.

So let's get a judge who can win and who would be a credit to the Wisconsin Supreme

Court.

Well, Bradley is educated that she might not run, period.

That she might not, you know, maybe open seat.

Come next spring.

Do you hear, I mean, are there other Democrats that you think should run?

Yeah, Democrats, how about our liberals who have read the Constitution?

Yes, but Democrats, yeah, there are over 300 of them.

Two of them got squeezed out by the cult already.

They want to grease the skids.

My message is you can't grease the skids.

This is Wisconsin.

We're not going to put up with a bad candidate who'd be a terrible justice like Chris Taylor.

You have to.

Declare for God's sake.

In fact, I hope the judge in Brent County and Milwaukee County changed their minds.

They get these calls.

What's the name

of your latest book?

The latest book is called American Dawn, DAWN.

It's coming out in July and I recommend it strongly, but the one that is selling terrifically right now is China Code.

Trying to code, you know I like to write, yeah.

Trying to code, pick it up.

Matt Flynn, you'll know what I believe.

Matthew J. Flynn, make sure you use the J, whatever books are sold.

Always a pleasure, my friend.

No short of opinions, that's what I love about it.

Always a pleasure, thanks Matt, I appreciate it.

Stay tuned, what's worse, know your meats edition is next on the Civic Media, ready

to

work.

Live from the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba Show.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.

Across Wisconsin on the Civic Media Rating Network and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app,

Good afternoon, everybody.

I'm Todd Olbaugh, along with Mr. Parker Olson on the board, filling in for Mr. Zomers.

It is six minutes past the hour of three o'clock.

Welcome into hour number two of the big program on this Thursday, June 26, 2025.

It is a great day to be a Wisconsinite.

Welcome, everybody, to the World Headquarters of Civic Media in downtown Madison on State Street, here in Madison.

Sunny skies for the most part, some big fluffy clouds here and there.

It is sultry, it is sticky, but want to get right away to an important weather statement for you, particularly for those folks listening on WRCE in Richland Center.

We have an ongoing tornado warning in effect until 315 for Southwestern Juneau County, Northeastern Vernon County, and Southeastern Monroe County.

This is a radar-indicated storm right now, flying debris associated with this storm and should be moving through Waniwok right about now and other places that could be impacted include Mount Tabor, Pleasant Ridge, and Union Center.

So if you are in the area say of Hillsboro Union Center, Elroy, Wisconsin I would even say Boston at this point get to the lowest level in your building if you don't have a basement get to an interior space such as a bathroom and Take shelter immediately a tornado warning in effect for another five to ten minutes or so for South it would be Southwestern part of me Southwestern Juneau County

Also just a little tiny edge of Monroe County and then Eastern Vernon County.

So think of Hillsborough, Elroy Union Center and Boston.

This is a fairly small cell as it's popping up.

It's not part of the whole line, but rather a small cell.

A tornado watch remains in effect for many places in central and western, west central Wisconsin until 8 p.m.

tonight.

There are also

thunderstorms right now in the La Crosse area on Alaska, Sparta.

Those are not severe at this point, but we'll continue to watch this as the afternoon progresses.

Keep it to civic media right here.

Big second, by the way, many thanks to Matt Flynn for being here on October 2.

Always a great time.

Always learn something when Matt stops by.

Coming up a little bit later on in this hour.

I'm gonna talk about some grocery store closures, particularly in southeastern Wisconsin and what this means for food deserts in vulnerable areas, vulnerable communities.

So dig into that a little bit.

Also a few more political stories for you.

Take your phone calls as well.

Gonna play a little what's worse in a moment, but for Parker, Parker also filling in for Aaron Zamas who has the day off, hopefully he's having a great time.

I appreciate it, Parker.

He joins Pac Crite low now every morning from six until nine across the network on mornings with Pat and Parker.

That's what it's

called.

If that's what the show is getting named that I'm not getting paid enough.

It's mornings with a pack quite local Parker is we appreciate you being here because Parker has been up since you know the crack of dawn

430 I slept in today

30

that's sleeping in I usually get up at four.

Yeah.

Do you really?

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

What a guy I only live like 20 minutes or so, so it's not bad right?

It could be worse traffic

is not not too tight at that time I

Usually can make it to the belt line before I see a car really

pretty close.

Yeah

So we appreciate you coming back in the afternoon, Parker.

And yes, and Yeoman's work today, especially because the reason why I slept in, you were down at Milwaukee yesterday at Amfam Field for that great big pitcher's duel between the Pirates and Milwaukee, the Miz for

the

Brewers.

How was that?

It was very good.

It was very fun.

Um, really just a wild thing to watch a starting pitcher throw five pitches in a row over a hundred miles an hour.

Yeah.

Like that just doesn't make sense in my brain at all.

That's why

you started the game, right?

Yeah.

I think I believe it was like second out of the game was just five heaters.

Oh yeah.

It was awesome.

It was a lot of fun.

It was kind of ironic though.

Um, we walk in there, we sit down.

All right.

How long is it gonna take for somebody to get a hit?

How long until somebody gets a walk?

Both pitchers, first at bat, was a walk.

Right away.

The perfect game was gone.

I looked at my buddy and went, well.

Time to go home.

This thing's over.

But they had to be incredible to watch those two guys going at it.

And I believe it was the largest attended game of the season so far.

Yeah, it was a sellout.

Can you believe that on a Wednesday afternoon?

What a

clock.

Yeah.

That's just crazy.

But

how good is that for baseball?

How good is that for Milwaukee to

see

that?

I mean, oh God, long term, this is incredible for baseball in general, I mean, because well.

I think is already kind of tired of Pittsburgh because he's like four and seven.

Even though he's one of the best pitchers in the league.

He has absolutely no run support in Pittsburgh.

So I would not be surprised if he wants out of there.

But I mean, yeah, that's two young studs.

We'll see how long they can last before they tire themselves out with throwing 100 miles an hour all the time.

But, you know, it's promising.

It's incredible in how cool is it that, you know, once again, at least for a while, Milwaukee has one of the best people in baseball on our team.

We get to watch this each and every day.

He comes on on the mound and I couldn't be happier for him.

I've seen his family on TV.

They're obviously thrilled.

I told this before, but Brady Ewing comes on our show.

From Richland Center and ended up being a walk-on and then ended up being the captain one of the captains of the Wisconsin Badger football team is senior year went won three big 10 championships went to three rose bowls and and here's a guy that that you know as your basically next door neighbor and their family and great people and how happy you are and thrilled and emotional

To have it be your own kid out there just has to be incredible.

And for, you know, Mrs. Family, that's just great.

Yeah.

And that's a really cool thing about the Brewers, too, with being a small market team.

They typically have younger guys, especially in the last couple of years.

So you get to see a ton of those moments of families getting to see their kid go to the bigs for the first time.

It's been really special to watch the last couple of years.

I'm glad you got to go, by the way.

That's fantastic.

And the Brewers are off today.

Take a baby celebrating that big win by the Miz yesterday.

They'll be back in action in Milwaukee against your Colorado Rockies.

Now, the Rockies, by the way, one of the worst teams in baseball.

Not many people can say that they're their Rockies.

I think some people are just like I'm not

kidding.

I was like 18 games all year.

It's ridiculous.

We're halfway through the year, by the way.

Yeah.

So the Rockies will visit Milwaukee broadcast start time on Friday.

across many civic media radio network stations, 635.

And then the tip of that tip off the first pitch will be probably just after seven o'clock.

You could hear it on W R C E and Richland Center W I S S and Oshkosh W R J N racing Kenosha C Q M in Park Falls.

And now W B Z H and beautiful Hayward, the buzz of the north.

That's what they call it.

Beautiful station buzz.

And if everything works out, we're not allowed to talk about it yet.

But if everything works out, Jane McNair of the wonderful and talented Jane McNair knows America program.

No, it's not good.

It's a Jane.

It's Matt Nair on air every morning from 9 until 11.

And Greg Bach and I are going to be going on the road to Oshkosh, I believe Butternut near Park Falls and then over to Hayward once again.

This is all unconfirmed and we're not allowed to talk about it.

But I have a vehicle on my credit card We'll see we'll see but that's telling me there's a chance That's that's the rumor is it as it turns out the brewers back in action on Friday night There are red hot make sure you get down there and be listing on Friday tomorrow We're gonna give you another chance to win four Brewer tickets in our Friday ticket

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You're doing fine.

I complicated it because I put an extra blip today in what's worse, so this is my fault.

I was considering which one you want.

I know.

That was my

fault.

That was my fault.

That was totally my fault.

The reason it is my fault is because today's category is what's worse, brats or burgers.

What's worse, brats or burgers.

855-752-4842, 855-752-4842, or you can text us on the Civic Media app.

Now, when I saw this from our great team, it reminded me, back in the day, on the old late show with David Letterman on CBS, this is one of my favorite bits that Letterman did.

And it started out as Know Your Current Events.

And the great Paul Schaefer, the director of the CBS Orchestra,

formerly the world's most dangerous band on the NBC show Paul Schaefer wrote the the musical interlude and So here now we have dialed up for you courtesy of worldwide pants.

That's the production team That Letterman has this is from the late show David Letterman just a quick snippet for worldwide pants This is how Letterman used to introduce know your cut to meet on the late late show

Now listen, Meredith, when we play Know Your Cut To Meat, there are how many new categories there are?

That's fantastic.

That's incredible.

That song Know Your Cut To Meat.

You see, I only wish Parker we had a live band back in Plattville.

I know I know whitewater people don't like Plattville.

But back in Plattville, we had our old late night show called Sunday Night with Todd Albaugh.

It was a takeoff on Letterman and Carson.

We actually think of this back and back in college, nearly 30 years ago, we had a live band.

I would love to have a live band for this show.

It's not gonna happen, but I would still like it.

Anyway, that was courtesy of World Wide Pants, Know Your Cuts of Meat.

Anyway, it's our edition of Know Your Cuts of Meat.

What's worse, brats or burgers?

855-752-4842.

855-752-4842.

You can also text us on the old Pacific Media app.

Let's go to the phone lines.

Mike in spring green, listening on WRCE.

Mike, brats or burgers, what's worse?

Well, I think I like them both, but hamburgers are the same.

I mean, the meat is the same everywhere.

You can get hamburger and it's gonna taste the same and you need stuff to flavor it up.

If you get a truly well-made brat, all you need is maybe butter on the bun and maybe a little onion or something.

But brats are so unique to every place they're made, when you find really good ones, they really stand out.

So that's what I would say.

That's a great that's a great deep dive on that because you're right.

Brats depending upon who makes them where they're from.

They can have a very different taste.

All right.

Thanks, Mike.

Very.

I appreciate the call.

Stay safe out there.

Beautiful spring green today.

Let's see.

W R C E 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2.

What's worse?

Brats.

or burgers.

Also, text us on the Civic Media line.

I'm gonna take a little break here and do a little business, as they say.

Have a call or a hold.

We'll get their take on that.

Also, I'll read a couple of texts for you today.

And then also talk about grocery stores in a bit.

They are disappearing in parts of Wisconsin and what that could mean to people's ability to buy fresh food.

All that more.

Don't go anywhere.

It's a Thursday edition of the All-Ball Show Across Wisconsin on the Civic Media.

Ready to work.

Pursuing truth wherever it may lead and having fun doing it.

Welcome back to Toddleball Show on the Pacific Media Running Network.

Twenty-two now past the hour of three o'clock.

Glad to have you along.

Parker Olson on the board doing Yeoman's work.

Zommer is off today right in the middle of what's worse for today.

Great category.

What's worse?

Brats or burgers?

8-5-5, 7-5-2, 4-8-4-2, 8-5-5, 7-5-2, 4-8-4-2.

We played that cut earlier for World Wide Pants, David Letterman's production company.

And because he used to do this big, it started out as Know Your Current Events.

And then he kind of got bored with it.

And I can't remember exactly how it evolved.

Perry could tell us.

Jerry Perry, if he's listening, he could tell us on Facebook.

But it became Know Your Cuts of Meat.

and looked it up on the old Wikipedia, and I'd forgotten all the categories.

One of our textures remembers this.

It says, which itself consists, know your cuts of meat, of five categories, beef, lamb, veal, pork, and the ever popular variety meats, as Paul Schaefer heavily accentuates when he chuckles and says, variety meats, David.

Kind of as a as a And McMahon variety meets David after playing the the bit the individual is also rewarded with a box of assorted meats and they were great meats by the way Lobel's pound for pound the finest butcher shop in the world.

They were really nice meats

Throughout the course of the segment's history on the show, Letterman varied back and forth between discreetly feeding the contestants the answers and making them guess.

Usually, if it was a hot woman, he'd give them the answer.

Each selected category is accompanied by a brief theme song based on nobody but me.

I did not know that.

Do you use a card?

Nobody but me.

know your custom meat uh what's worse our our uh rendition of know your custom meat what's worse brats or burgers eight five five seven five two four eight four two let's go to curt listening on to be mdx in madison curt brats or burgers what's worse well

given that i grew up in shabuagan wisconsin uh which is the gold standard for both by the way brats and hamburgers um obviously brats win but

I'd have to emphasize that both are only mediocre unless it's on a shabuagon hard roll.

Oh, see, now you've brought in the bread component to all of this.

Well, I'm just stating that many people in Wisconsin, what they call a hard roll is is a sponge roll.

Really?

Really?

Any of you listeners who have not experienced a city bakery hard roll, well,

Everyone that I've exposed to it, their eyes just get huge.

I've never had one.

Is this commonly sold in various places or is a particular store in Sheboygancurt?

No, it's a business called City Bakery.

It's on Michigan Avenue.

They're so popular that if you go on a weekend, you better call ahead because they'll be wiped out.

There's a spell downside to that particular hard roll.

It has a very short shelf life.

Oh well.

But hey, you got to eat it when it's good, right?

Most bread is good the first couple of days.

That's correct.

Well, this is great.

I appreciate the call because we love promoting local Wisconsin businesses.

It's called, what's the bakery again?

It's called City Bakery.

City Bakery in

Sheboygan.

Yep, in the Bronx is Miesfeldt on

the

north end of Sheboygan.

All right, I love it.

Well done, Kurt.

Thanks for the info.

Have a great day.

855-752-4842.

855-752-4842.

What's worse, Brots or Burgers.

Off the, uh, off the text line, Matt Middleton, pardon me, Matt and Richland Center, one of our great, uh, UPS drivers.

And by the way, a shout out to all of our delivery people, UPS, FedEx, the United States Postal Service, Amazon.

Those people are, I mean, the heat like today.

Most of those vehicles don't have air condition.

So thanks for doing all that work out there Matt everybody else Matt says Paul's favorite cut of meat category of the old know-your-custom eat variety meats You're absolutely right Matt.

Well done another great letterman fan out there.

I love it when in Madison says what's worse Brossner burgers it depends on the level of intoxication

I Mean fair

yeah,

yeah,

that's that's good

I like that.

Mark in prayer to sack off the text line says, I got my last brat at the St.

Norbert stand in the pig parking lot in sock county or sock city was great.

I just added some kimchi from physiology foods of varroqua.

Wow.

That's a lot of steps.

It is.

Wow.

I could have gotten my usual mushrooms Swiss from Culver's next door, but what did it brought?

Both are either great or worse, depending upon the maker and the cooker.

Now that.

That's a great point, Mark, because we had somebody else earlier say it depends on where the brats made, how good they are.

But, you know, if you have a... I've had a... I don't know if I've had like a terrible brat, but I've had some that are better than others.

I'll put it that way.

I'm not a big brat guy.

Really?

Really hot take here.

I'm not a big brat guy.

And you're a Wisconsin native.

I'm a... Yeah, born and raised.

I'm not a big brat guy.

I don't know what it is.

What

don't you like about him?

I

don't know.

Now, see, I'll say this.

I like... And maybe it's just my mom and I especially.

I like a really well done.

Like it needs to be like a dark brown.

I don't mind a little charcoal on one side of my broad.

I don't like a soft broad.

OK.

That could go so many ways.

But it's true.

I like I like it.

I like it.

So it's kind of crispy on the outside.

That's why I like my broadstone.

So it kind of kind of.

Well, that crunches, but pops.

It pops when you bite into it.

I think that's part of what I'm not a huge fan of is it's just too much of a snap when I get into it.

Really?

You like the snap?

No,

it's

a lot.

Parker's anti-snap.

All right.

Our own Terry Barr on Terry Barr Media on YouTube says, we found some chicken brats that beat any others.

Hands down.

Woodmans, in case you're wondering.

Oh.

Chicken, Bronson, Woodman.

All right, Terry.

Nobody knows Wisconsin better than Terry Barr, by the way.

She has a great slice of Wisconsin series here at Civic Media.

Make sure you check it out.

Parker, that's why I know, I'm thinking we know the answer, but what's worse?

Mean I've given it away.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm a Parker's day brought now.

Yeah, not a huge bracket.

I'm

sorry You know I went into this one way.

I'm coming out another I'm actually gonna say that hamburgers are worse But for all the reasons I brought are better our callers our callers swayed me.

All right, we'll come back talk more in a minute including

Not just brats, but food in Wisconsin grocery stores that are going out of business.

Don't go anywhere.

It's the All Balls Show on the Pacific Media already networked.

Having fun doing a welcome back the title ball show on the Civic Media Running Network 35 minutes past the hour of three o'clock.

Welcome back everybody.

Parker Olson doing a great job filling in for a vacationing Aaron Zommers today.

Parker, appreciate you being here.

I'm very glad to be here, Todd.

I have a fun time watching your show,

so I'm

having a more fun.

What?

Maybe a more fun time doing your show.

One of the few people at Civic Media that watches our show, we appreciate that.

We appreciate that.

That

can't be

that.

Oh, no, it really is.

A couple, we played a great round of what's worse today, burgers or brats.

Kind of a Letterman version-esque of know your cuts of meat.

I don't know.

There it is.

Fantastic.

Brats or burgers.

By the way, our friend, Jerry Perry, better known as Jeff Perry, is watching the show on Facebook today.

If you remember, tell us, Jeff, if you can.

How did know your current events devolve into know your customers?

I can't remember exactly how that was on Letterman.

Anyway, Jerry Perry says, on Facebook says, I just realized that if Parker Posey married Parker Olson, she'd be Parker Olson.

That would be...

Possibly

convenience or just a

hassle and a half.

No Jeff Jeff and I Jeff and I go so I maybe maybe it was letterman that started this I can't remember who we used to do things like if if Yoko Ono Married Sonny Bono

should be Yoko

Ono

Bono

Many people say that many people know that I appreciate recognition

But it's true.

It's not untrue

That's

incredible

if if John Stamos had married Terry Amos she would have been Terry Stamos Amos

You have too much fun, Todd.

This is

the very select group of people that appreciate my sense of humor.

And yet, and yet, I have a statewide radio show.

People don't know why, but here I

am.

How did that

happen?

It was a major mistake on many people's part.

Okay.

A couple of more, and we'll wrap this up here with, no, you're not, no, you're causing me.

What's worse, Bronson burgers.

Let's see here.

John in Edgerton says, go down to State Street and get Brock burger.

They go great together.

I'm not sure what that means, but that's fantastic.

What else do we have here?

A listener on WMDX, a brand new listener.

Hey, thanks for listening here in Madison says West Side Bakery in Sheboygan has better hard rolls, both hamburgers.

Our and Brotter are good.

Oh, I got it.

Okay, Megan listening in some prairie under the MDX as I like them both my husband can't do Brotts the fave flavor and texture of them Just aren't his favorite Sean in Richland Center another great UPS.

Oh, no, I don't think Sean's a UPS driver listening to be RCE Says I cannot decide I'll take either one.

Well, there you go.

All right.

Thanks everybody Thanks for playing

What's worse, once again, come back tomorrow, have another great edition of that.

There was something else we were going to talk about, Parker, during the break.

Is it the street cam?

Oh, yes, that's right.

Thank you very much.

It's right now, at least, a beautiful day in Madison.

Let's go to the Sam Davidson street cam.

Oh, look at that.

Very good.

Thank you.

I'll take a look at what's going on.

Oh,

there it

is.

It's a rotating street cam.

That's a beautiful shot, Parker.

Did you set that up today?

Oh, yeah.

Nicely done.

Oh, thank you.

I

do camera operate, you know, sometimes.

You do camera for the Mallards baseball games here in Madison.

This is true.

Yes.

All right.

Look at that.

You see a Fairchild Street intersects with Madison's historic State Street.

And they're right across the building.

We're looking at on that shot the overture center tonight.

You know what's happening there tonight, Parker?

No.

Well, I mean, well, we'll get to that.

Let's end the show with that.

Here.