Rural Wisconsin Healthcare Is Shutting Down… Again (Hour 2)

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Rural Wisconsin Healthcare Is Shutting Down… Again (Hour 2)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Wed Jun 25, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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It is six minutes now past the hour of three o'clock.

Welcome into hour number two of the broadcast on Wednesday, June 25th, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.

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Yes, he was he was fixated on this the Miz having a great day on the mound once again record numbers biggest crowd of the season So far for Milwaukee at am fanfield down there in Milwaukee.

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He seems humble.

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Let's go.

Time once again for what's worse.

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This is timely in a way, I guess, because a lot of summertime is the time people redo their, let's do some home updates, painting, maybe, maybe wallpaper.

Wallpaper's kind of coming back in, went to the parade of homes in Madison.

And you see a lot more wallpaper, especially in bathrooms now.

For that seems weird to me, but I guess I don't know how your it's not your grandmother's wallpaper or I'm sure it

actually will stand up to water

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Yeah, and also all kinds of designs.

There's textures anyway One of the things people might do is flooring flooring this time of year.

So today is category what's worse?

carpeting or wood floors carpeting or wood floors

855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.

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Question right now, what's worse?

Carpetting or wood floors?

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Back up to Appleton, Cindy on the line.

Appreciate it, Cindy.

Cindy, carpeting or wood floor?

What's worse?

Well, as a pet owner, I'm going to see...

carpeting because if they have an accident or puke on the carpeting, I got to get the carpet cleaner on.

Whereas if it's on the hardwood floor, I can just get a rag out and wipe it up.

It's so much easier.

Once they're gone, then I would say carpeting.

But at this point,

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wood floor is just the best.

All right.

Thanks, Andy.

Appreciate the call.

What's worse, carpeting or wood floor?

855-7524842.

PJ watching this on YouTube.

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So PJ on YouTube says, Carpetine is bad for your health.

When I bought my house, the first thing I did was rip out the carpeting.

855-752-4842.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, carpeting or wood floors, what's worse, you could also text us on the Civic Media app.

I, well, I guess I've owned two homes in my life.

I had a small house, which was the center I bought, and then I ended up inheriting our family farm.

And so I bought the small house, I too, where the first thing I did was redid.

the flooring.

I think that's a good point by PJ because you don't know if the other person lived there before had a had a pet or some sort.

There could be all kinds of things in used carpeting.

So I would also tear up the carpeting if I was like that.

Along that line, I've helped my dad with a lot of flooring projects over the years.

And thinking back, I've never installed carpet.

I've installed hardwood, I've installed vinyl, but never carpet.

I've only torn it out.

Oh, really?

Well,

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maybe now's your chance to... So after you tore it out, did you put wood floors in?

Yes.

Oh, I see.

All right.

Or

vinyl.

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Or vinyl.

There's also some very nice vinyl right now out there as well.

It looks like

wood floors.

Cheap, easy to install, easy to replace if it gets messed up.

Absolutely.

Dave in New Berlin

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off the text line says, if you don't have slippers, wood floors are worse.

Your feet get cold.

All right, that could be Conrad what if we'll come back tonight back tonight on on the Schwabba show nightlight with Pete Schwabba Conrad when it has been down in Boca for for a while and putting his feet up down there in Florida where he's from no wait

I mean, I'm being told not my ear, no.

He's actually just, he's been helping out as, as Todd Michaels is on vacation.

But- Yeah, he just didn't want to have to do a show at 6 a.m.

and then work until 8 p.m.

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Not why would that be?

I don't know.

But Pete Schwabba was here yesterday, the last couple of days.

He was kind enough to be at our show.

And so Conrad is set to go tonight in his usual producer's chair for Nightlight with Pete Schwabba starting at 6.

Conrad up at GBW in Green Bay says,

a person who has only lived in apartments my adult life, I would say carpet is worse because you need to get that carpet cleaned for your security deposit.

Wood is just a Swiffer and then you're done.

That's a great point, Conrad.

And depending upon your landlord, some of those landlords, it's virtually impossible to get all of your deposit back because they look at every single thing.

However, a hot tip for you, contest it.

If your landlord is charging you back stuff and it's BS and it's stuff that you did clean then call them about it and You there's a good chance you can get the money back.

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There's your apartment lawyer minute with attorney I am not a lawyer

So take that with a grain of salt.

That's

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good point.

That's a good point Heather up in Eau Claire on W. E. U. K. That's not right WCFW the tap watching on Facebook says carpet is worse harder to clean

how to replace repair and also ages faster.

Well, if you look at the photo online right now on the video stream, CP dialed up some very used or at least some mildly used carpet on the left for carpeting.

The wood floor has a beautiful wood floor.

And for whatever reason, there's a cat sitting a large cat with a large bushy tail on the wood floor with a bucket and a mop.

I'm

not sure what the what the photos represent, but you know that brings to mind certain song lyrics I'm gonna leave it at that

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because

they are not appropriate That's probably good

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Jim watching in watching on YouTube says what's worse definitely carpeting is worse if you have a leaky pipe

Carpetting can hide it for a long time, causing extensive damage.

That's another great point, Jim.

I've known people who had a leak in their house, and they thought it was like, ugh, the carpet stepped on it, and it was all squishy.

You're like, oh no,

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how long has this been like this?

Not good at all.

eight five five seven five two four eight four two Len in Madison says carpeting is worse for cleaning and cost Wooder vinyl is better with small area rugs mats and runners when that's not a good point No people have wood floors and to the other Textures point listeners point if you have cold feet well a I guess you get slippers or socks But B as Len says a nice rug

I like a nice area rug where you sit

in your chair or the couch, whatever.

Plus, then with area rugs, you can get cool designs and further make your house a home.

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Look at that.

Aaron Sommers, the

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interior decorator today.

I love it.

I love it.

I absolutely love it.

What's worse?

Carpentine or wood floors, 855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.

Aaron Sommers, what's worse?

I think I'm going to have to go with the majority here and say that carpeting is worse.

Really?

Just because in my experience, our house was mostly carpeted when I was little.

And as we got older, slowly replaced that with hardwood floors.

And the main downside to me of hardwood floors is that they can chip and scratch, and then it's expensive, especially now.

It used to be cheaper before the pandemic, but everything's more expensive now.

But that's really hard to repair.

Whereas if you have vinyl or something, that's really cheap to repair because you just take it out and pop in a new piece.

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Got

it.

But carpeting is just, it gets so nasty.

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It can get nasty.

And also,

it's fun to slide around in your socks

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on the wood

floor.

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Like Tom Cruise in Risky Business.

What's worse, carpeting or wood floors, 855-752-4842.

Robert.

in McFarland says, oh my God, carpeting is horrible.

Wood floors are beautiful and easier to clean.

A hot take from Robert McFarland.

I'm going to go along with Robert.

I'm going to say carpeting is worse for the aforementioned reasons by and large.

Wood floors, generally speaking, look nicer and are easier to maintain clean.

They're certainly cleaner, like other people said.

You know a vacuum can only do so much.

I will say like in a bedroom Maybe a nice carpeting when you get out in the morning put your feet on carpeting that which that can be nice You can also do rugs.

You can also do rugs, but overall I will agree that carpeting

is worse, especially if you have like kids or dogs or something like that.

Kathryn Lake

Yeah.

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Then it's just it gets it gets goofy.

All right.

There you go.

That's another edition of What's Worse?

A Ford's Day.

We'll be back with a brand new edition tomorrow.

Let's look ahead.

Let's preview tomorrow's What's Worse.

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Meat.

Who has the meats tomorrow for What's Worse?

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Pursuing truth wherever it may lead and having fun doing it welcome back the title ball show on the civic media reddit We're glad to have you along Xamers on the board all ball behind the mic here on I guess I didn't give a weather update today here in downtown Madison the world headquarters on State Street Pretty nice day a little little humid little sticky out there the Sam Davidson Street cam

on downtown Madison.

You see the beautiful overtures that are there on the right for those watching on the stream.

People staying inside, it looks like.

Saw a larger school group a little while ago, going up and down the street.

But overall, pretty much say high clouds right now, looking for a submarine, parts around parts of Wisconsin.

Again, next 24 hours, some places could get some downpours and the like, but overall.

Pretty nice day weekend's gonna be hot.

Oh, here's a important update for our listeners on WM DX here in Madison if you are wanting to partake in the first concert on the square Big events here every Wednesday from now until like the first part of August free.

They're free.

They're fantastic concerts on the square outside of the Capitol one It's a go right now.

They're saying despite a chance of some rain here there.

They're gonna try to get this in

So if you want to, you can do it now starting at three o'clock, it's now 24 after three, you can bring a blanket down, reserve your space.

You can only have a lawn chair if you sit further back, like along the sidewalk, but on the lawn proper, bring a blanket, reserve your space, and the concert gets underway, I think it's

seven o'clock tonight, so.

It is seven o'clock, and today, dancing in the street is what the event is called.

They're playing Motown Hits.

Great.

Oh,

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it's a great time.

So the for MDX listeners of Madison concerts on the square right now is a go for tonight.

I want to get into a little bit of what's going on in Washington.

Again, some of the international things going on.

Some of these, you know, this this this kind of politically sexy election in New York City last night that we touched on a bit in the first hour.

But again, I think it's important not to lose focus of this Trump bill.

Going through Congress right now the reconciliation bill basically the budget bill out in Washington DC and here now our crack staff has put together these six largest vote problems at hand number one rural Republicans red state Republicans are worried about Medicaid and rural hospitals a proposal to add a new fund billions of dollars for rural hospitals may help but it is a hasty

Bandaid.

This is something to watch.

You're reporting on that from the hill today.

Headline says GOP Senator Warren's Medicaid cuts could derail Trump's mega bill.

Senator Josh Hawley, Republican of Missouri, and by the way, certainly no, as they say, snowflake.

He's a manga red meat guy.

But Senator Josh Hawley.

is warning the President Trump's mega bill could run off the tracks this week if Senate Republican leaders fail to address his GOP colleagues concern that deep cuts to Medicaid spending would devastate rural hospitals in their home states.

Holly said Republican leaders provide a little detail or provided a little detail last Monday night.

about how they would help rural hospitals, nursing homes, and community healthcare providers in rural areas.

Want to step away from the story on the hill for a second.

Some great reporting by WISC Channel 3 here in Madison a couple nights ago, and we had these folks summers.

You'll remember this last year during the presidential election when then Vice President Harris was in Ripon, Wisconsin,

with former Congresswoman Liz Cheney.

We were there, we did the show from the little schoolhouse, the birthplace of the Republican Party in Ripa, Wisconsin, and we had on folks from Salk County.

And that, if you're not familiar, Salk County is just below Wisconsin Dells.

Most people know where Wisconsin Dells is.

And they were talking pretty close to a year ago that they were facing a shutdown of what used to be called the county home.

but the the publicly funded retirement nursing home facility in sock county now channel three reported this week that there is a vote coming up maybe this week yet where this is real now that the the nursing home in the the public nursing home in sock county is looking at extinction right now where do these people go where do the the poorest the most indigent among us our communities go that is one example right here

in in wisconsin that is already happening in sock county at least potentially it's on the verge of happening now here josh josh holly in this article in the hill saying that could be repeated not just nursing homes but rural hospitals as well holly said quote i'm confident it will not be put on the floor as it is currently something will change they'll add something it's just unclear to me what

Then he went on to say, quote, it's all a work in progress.

And then warned this rural hospital stuff, this could threaten the progress of the whole bill.

Let's resolve this and move this along.

Otherwise, we're going to be sitting here looking at each other in August, unquote.

Look, I don't agree with Josh Hawley on a lot of things, but he's absolutely right on this.

And I think this is a unfortunate but really good example a tangible example proof that President Trump and his closest advisors are out of touch with real Americans Particularly as it turns out a lot of his key voters in their communities in rural America and rural Wisconsin Because if he was in touch

with his core voters in rural America, he would understand how critically important and popular rural hospitals are.

And they're all, I'm sure nearly everybody listening to me on this show across Wisconsin knows exactly what I mean.

We're gonna come back, talk more about this, things that are going on on this bill.

Out in Washington DC that we should keep looking at.

Don't go anywhere.

We'll continue after our news sports and weather update.

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Welcome back to the towel ball show on the Civic Media Radio Network 35 past the hour of three o'clock.

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State Street.

Not New York City.

We're in State Street here in downtown Madison.

The world headquarters of Civic Media.

Zombers all over it.

Motown there.

Motown is the theme for concerts on the square on the state Capitol lawn tonight here in Madison, which we have heard now is a go.

It is a go for tonight, despite there might be a threat of some showers, but they're going to try to get it in tonight.

Enjoy that Motown music down there and are right down here on the Capitol lawn tonight.

If you're so inclined, they're also about to be dancing in the streets in Milwaukee.

Update for you from the Brewers radio network this game being played on several civic media stations right now over the air across Wisconsin including Richland Center Oshkosh Racine Kenosha Park Falls right now going on in the top of the ninth inning McGill is on to try to get the save for the Brewers and Mizekowski the Miz

who pitched a great game today for Milwaukee.

Brewers hanging on to a four to two lead right now.

Two outs in the top of the ninth.

McGill trying to get the save.

And then there it is.

It's over.

Final out.

The Brewers win four to two to stay red hot.

And the Miz gets the win.

McGill gets the save.

What a game.

What a game.

There you go.

It was it was a great game and we we as they say I saw it on the radio I mean this to me is what baseball is all about this to me is what the Brewers are all about They're not a team that's always a go have the richest well-paid lineup in the league But they get these guys that they could develop and then you got a guy like Pat Murphy just an old grizzled baseball coach of a guy

And they're doing spectacular things brewers get the win Four to two over the pirates this afternoon this afternoon.

They're now 45 and 36 overall I think number there in the second place in the NL central a couple of games behind the dreaded the hated the terrible Chicago Cubs All right back to the news of Washington Before the break taking you through according to a crack staff and us here

Six things that we want to watch now going forward in the budget process out in Washington, can't get too distracted by the Middle East, can't get too distracted by the Miz, trying to keep our eye on the prize, what's going on.

And here now, according to The Hill, today, Senator Josh Hawley, Republican of Missouri, is calling Trump out, calling out some of the Morgan Republicans, saying if they don't address rural health care and Medicaid spending,

They're going to be doomed, saying that Republican leaders provided a little detail Monday night about how they would help rural hospitals, nursing homes, and community health care providers in rural states.

Case in point, according to Channel 3000 here in Madison WISD TV, the Salk County nursing home, the public nursing home in Salk County, which is right below Wisconsin Dells, is facing closure this week.

an important vote by the Sauk County Board coming up.

We talked about this a year ago on this very program when we talked to some of these folks saying that they forewarned, said this is coming if people don't get on top of this.

And here we are almost a year later and staring it in the face, a rural hospital or pardon me, a rural nursing home closure in Sauk County.

One proposal, according to the Hill, floated by

Good old Senator Susan Collins, Republican of Maine, who apparently sent a very concerning letter.

No, that doesn't say that.

Susan Collins's main is set to set up a $100 billion relief fund for rural hospitals, nursing homes, and community health care centers.

Holly on Monday called that idea, quote, a good start.

He said, I think in this meeting Senate leadership needs to go to rural hospitals and they need to go to the House leadership.

and they need to work this out.

They need to address the rural hospital's concerns.

Holly said, after a 90-minute meeting to discuss a possible floor vote this week on the GOP mega bill, both mega and MAGA, to enact Trump's agenda.

He said, if that happens, this bill will pass here and in the House.

I think if that doesn't happen, I don't know if it'll pass here.

But it will get us in a conference committee in the house and I'm opposed to that Holly said Senate Majority Leader Thune did not tell colleagues how much money he'd be willing to allocate to the hospital relief fund raising questions among GOP senators about whether the bill is ready to come to the floor this week

Other Republican senators raised concerns Monday about the debate over the Medicaid related provisions in the bill playing out Senator Jerry Moran, Republican of Kansas said, I still have concerns about a few provisions in the bill.

I'm not satisfied yet.

Who cited Medicaid as his biggest problem with the legislation.

And remember, all of this, stepping over to the article, all of this comes

I mean, here's a couple of guys, again, Republican senators from more rural-ish states, Missouri and Kansas.

I'll at least give them credit for bringing this up and trying to fight for more money for rural areas, rural hospitals, rural nursing homes, clinics.

Meanwhile, Republican senator of Wisconsin, Ron Johnson, wants to cut more for Medicaid.

Another issue looking at in this big bill out in Washington DC expansion state Republicans Republicans whose states have seen rural health care gains thanks to Medicaid expansion are concerned about cuts in the Senate's draft Senator Tom Tillis Republican of North Carolina on Monday gave out sheets to fellow senators showing the states most affected including

a steep hit to his home state.

Funny how that happens, right?

You know, wait a minute here.

This could affect me.

This could affect my voters.

There is no, someone who spent 30 years in and around politics, there is no greater motivating factor for an elected official than self-interest.

Well, how does this affect me?

Number three, fiscal conservatives.

This group is irate over the tsunami of red ink and believe the Senate draft so far has made it worse.

They want tighter cuts to greed energy credits, including that you could include that in Ron Johnson's list there.

Speaking of green energy, green energy Republicans.

There's a few of them.

A group of at least four Republican senators want the bill to go the other way and allow tax credits for solar and wind to remain for a longer window of time.

Again, there was a time in this state in Wisconsin where you had Republicans who were very pro-alternative energy.

Among them my former boss in the state Senate State Senator Dale Schultz and One of his former assembly people Travis Trantle who is still the assembly in Southwest, Wisconsin and Grand County Dairy farmer smart guy He has one of the biggest wind farms in the state in his district Montfort, Wisconsin Used to be all for solar wind Now he's joined the pro manga caucus

in the state legislature wants to curtail that.

Wants to usurp local control basically, supporting legislation to make it more difficult to put up solar farms, wind farms and the like.

Number five, salty over salt.

In general Republican senators despise the tax deduction given to states with high state and local state salt taxes Let me try that again In general Republican senators despise the state deduction given to states with high state and local taxes That's the the acronym is salt state and local taxes salt, but the house salt caucus

Members largely from New York State are digging in over their demand that the deduction be at least $40,000 and They have enough votes to kill the bill.

This is a chamber fight and a key disagreement for the bill moving forward and finally number six Reboot or reboots.

I really do need to get new glasses rebots

robots

Todd you got new glasses pretty recently.

Todd Allbaugh

No, it was a year.

It was over a year ago I

feel like it was only a couple months after that that you were like I need new glasses

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Well, it was the cataracts and all the other I got I got I got bionic lenses now, and it takes a while I got bionic eyes and they're not working our robots The provision to ban states from regulating artificial intelligence is also exposing a rift

Some states rights quote-unquote Republicans say this is the federal taking power The federal government new Serbian power, but others including the House Speaker Mike small Johnson Defended it it is a as a practical unnecessary approach to an emerging technology again My former party when I was coming up through the ranks would always say well decisions are best left

As local as possible that states rights or a state we could we could settle things better in Madison than we can in Washington We consider settle things better in the county board than we can in Madison As I've talked to this program before that changed a lot in Wisconsin starting with former governor Republican Scott Walker and Some of the people in the Assembly and Senate at the time including current Speaker of the Assembly Robin Voss.

These are people who are all about

Reaganomics and small government But when it came to their people who are funding their campaigns the frack mining folks They said oh We want more money in our at our campaign coffers.

So we'll give up our ideology of local government and we'll pass a bill That makes it tougher for local municipalities to say no to fracking

and to say no to high capacity wells.

In short, they sold out.

Scott Walker, Robin Voss, I could go through the list, just sold out.

I think that's one of the biggest things that people miss in politics today, and it's only gotten worse.

So much, I mean politics has always been to a degree transactional, but I'm not sure

if it's ever been as transactional as it is today.

Think about it.

We haven't even talked about this this week.

Donald Trump in the last week launched a new phone company.

I'm not making this up.

This is real.

Okay.

It's not Trump himself because it says one of his sons, Eric, who's running the Trump organization now, they came out with the Trump phone where you buy a Trump phone.

It's like a knockoff of it looks like an iPhone, but it's not and It's they claim they have this big network, but again as someone who used to work in the cell phone industry They're just piggybacking on existing networks.

They're paying a price to be on other people's networks That means that if you sign up for a Trump phone your calls will be secondary to whatever company actually owns those towers And here's the kicker.

Where's the Trump phone made at?

And Ken Lewis likes to say, China.

That's where it's made at, China.

Not making this stuff up.

Back, we'll wrap up the show after this.

Kathryn Lake

It's the All Balls Show on the Civic Media Ready Network.

Todd Allbaugh

Welcome back to the Tahleball show on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Glad to have you along here where it is now eight minutes before the hour of four o'clock at the top of the hour.

ABC's, CPS News or James Kelly News, depending upon which of our great stations you're listening to, followed by a check of weather with Brittany Merleau, going to be a little wet.

Some of the places across Wisconsin, thanks to 24 to 40 hours, hotter over the weekend, but more sun.

And then next week, leading up to the 4th of July, it looks like pretty much

quintessential Wisconsin summer weather, highs in the low eighties and sun.

So get ready for that.

Then our great sports reporter, Mike Clemens will be in, probably have details on that big win by the brew crew and the Miz who outdulled the pirates this afternoon.

Brewers get a win four to two over Pittsburgh in a record breaking crowd, at least, uh, I should say the highest crowd so far, according to the brewers of the regular season.

So how about that?

A great game.

You heard it across many stations on the Brewers Ready Network here on the Civic Media Ready Network.

And then after the sports update, Maggie Dawn and the Maggie Dawn show every afternoon from four until six followed by a great friend, Pete Schwabba Conrad.

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Always entertaining our great friends Schwabba and Conrad and nightlight from six until eight at eight o'clock Robert pilot native roots radio and then it's Rick Smith across America all right a couple of things here to wrap up the show for for today first of all One of our listeners where our friends send us this from the New York Times opinion column talked earlier today about this this race For New York mayor big primary last night ranked choice voting

And Mr. Mondani is the big winner.

And again, I saw him on Colbert a couple of nights ago.

Good-looking, suave, debonair, great orator, self-deprecating, everything I think you'd want in some ways, young, in a politician has what some would call more

left leaning or, or, or extreme, I guess some would say, I'm not necessarily saying that myself, but some would say extremist left views on some things, not everything on some things.

And so already today, some people on the mainstream Democrats are, are trying to crush this guy.

New York Times opinion piece says in part this quote, since their losses last fall, Democrats have obsessed over how reverse they're declining fortunes.

By and large, the consensus has been that we need candidates with a sharp economic argument that can connect with young people, men, voters of color, and the working class.

In the New York City mayoral race, we got a candidate who checked many of those boxes, Mr. Mamdani.

So there you go.

That's one point of view.

That goes on to say, I believe this is Rebecca Katz saying, we need elections is about addition.

We need a big tent.

That's why instead of writing off candidates who resonate with voters because we disagree on an issue or two, Democrats should be asking why voters were drawn to them in the first place, unquote, Rebecca Kersner-Ketz from New York Times, opinion con.

Great point.

One of

Todd Allbaugh

my

favorite things is the Fox News reporting on him, posting all these things that are supposed to make him look like a terrible radical leftist, and it's like low-cost living.

or

Todd Allbaugh

like

low-cost apartments.

It's

Todd Allbaugh

like, wow, you

make him sound so bad.

Todd Allbaugh

Right.

And I think those issues are exactly what Democrats should be running on.

Right.

It's

Todd Allbaugh

just weird.

It's other things and comments that he said on kind of international issues and that sort of thing that have been dug up about that.

So as we started the show with Pat and Trig V, look, I think the New York City race is insular.

In other words, because you had...

Cuomo, who's just a schmuck, is the quote unquote mainstream Democratic candidate.

And because it's New York and because it's right choice voting, it's kind of a standalone case there.

But I think the takeaway is, I think the New York Times, there is right in this op-ed, that some of the things that Mom Donnie connected with voters, I'm not sure you could take that kind of candidate with everything he said.

and directly say, well, that's the kind of person that is a Democrat should run in Wisconsin.

I think like Tony, there's a reason Tony Evers has won five statewide races, three in state school superintendent and two as governor is because he's a more centrist Democrat.

He still supports a lot of the things that more progressives would want, but he just, he does it in a way that's more palatable to the centrist voters in Wisconsin.

All right, we'll leave you with this.

Big Balls News.

This is real.

Oh, really?

From the Daily Beast headline, Big Balls leaves government hanging after dumping new job.

That's

Todd Allbaugh

what a headline.

Yeah, the infamous teenage doge, the made up agency of government efficiency employee who called him himself.

Quote unquote, Big Balls has left the building.

Edward Korstein, his real name, resigned Monday.

According to a White House official who told Wired, his government email account was deactivated as of yesterday afternoon, according to the New York Times.

The 19-year-old was brought in in the early days of the Trump administration to work with Elon Musk's made up so-called Department of Government Efficiency, DOGGY, as a special government employee.

the same designation the world's richest man had up until his departure last month.

A person familiar with the matter confirmed Big Ball's departure to the Daily Beast.

He could not be reached for comment.

You know, I wonder if he realized that he was ruining his own life as well as countless others around the world.

Todd Allbaugh

Well, he had literally no government experience.

19 years old, no government experience, and he adds access to basically everybody's social security number and all these other kind of things.

I mean, it's goofy.

Again, as we stated in the front part of the show, it's just another example of unqualified people being put in positions of power and trust under the Trump administration.

All right, that's that's what we're gonna end the show great show appreciate Pat Crite low you can hear him every morning from six until nine with mornings of Pat Crite little across civic media Trigby Olsen for senior advisor Lincoln project him Mr. Zombers as well and all of you for listening stay tuned Maggie Dawn is next Todd all ball say whatever you're fighting for whatever you believe in do not give up Keep banging your drum.

We'll see you tomorrow

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