Are NIL Deals Making College Athletes Soft? (Hour 1)

From the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba show.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd

Alba.

Good afternoon, everybody.

I'm Todd Allbaugh, along with Mr. Aaron Zommers, a producer and engineer on the board.

It is six minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this TGIF version.

It is Friday, June 20th, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.

Welcome in, everybody here, live in downtown Madison at the Old World Headquarters, where clouds have taken over the skies this afternoon, Zommers.

Keeping the temperatures down a bit today, which I know is good news for you.

Yes, definitely definitely appreciate it

I think but most of all gonna be a fairly good day today Maybe some showers and parts of Wisconsin and then boy Howdy come tomorrow and and Sunday and Monday It's gonna get right down a sauna like gonna be at temperatures actual highs well into the 90s

with heat indexes.

That's the it feels like temperature of over a hundred in much of Wisconsin with the humidity.

So look, I mean, somewhere that's that's part of it.

But also when you get temperatures that high, it gets a little dangerous for folks.

So don't over exert if you're going to be outside.

If you are going to go say to a water park or kayaking, hiking, whatever, make sure to use the old sunscreen and drink lots of water, lots of lots of water.

As they say, hydrate or di-drate.

Yeah, I have a family reunion tomorrow, and I am highly debating whether or not I want to go.

In back a minute to walk?

No, it's in Campbell Sport with other more extended family and stuff.

Just take your own block of ice, sit on that, drink a lot of water.

Yep, I will be doing that.

By the way, before we go any further, today is the 20th of June.

A big shout out to Miss Linda, i.e.

Mom, birthday for her tomorrow.

Gonna go back to the old RC and hang out.

We had debated, do we go to the Mississippi River, take a little boat ride?

Do we come back to Madison and hang out by the lake at the Union?

We're leaning towards watching movies inside.

You know what?

That sounds like a good move for tomorrow.

Maybe, maybe.

But big shout out to Mom.

Happy birthday to her and love her very much.

And thanks for everything.

I'm going to enjoy hanging out with her tomorrow.

So big celebration for Miss Linda on her birthday tomorrow.

Happy early birthday.

Yeah, absolutely.

Coming up tomorrow.

No, actually today.

Coming up today here in a half an hour or so.

Another great Richland centerite.

Brady you in three-time Big Ten champion with Wisconsin Badger football team spent three years in the NFL all around great guy gonna be in at the bottom of the hour for our buy Weekly visit Talk a little bit about his kids.

There's four boys off of school now for the summer What does he know his wife Rachel do with the with the kids during the summer talk a little bit about that?

And also name image and likeness looking at it from a different angle today

What I have a discussion with Brady on is in I L Making athletes soft.

It's making the kids soft.

I think it is That's my perspective We'll explain at the bottom of the hour.

So stick around for that also an hour number two what's worse today's addition cars cars buying a car or leasing a car

Gonna talk cars in hour two and lots more to get to as well What should we start off with a brewers thing?

I suppose it's uh, it's uh, it's that time because the last couple of weeks We had our big text to win summer sizzler saucy trivia contest Something like that and we had big winners one of the big grand prize winners in those door County Endor, Wisconsin bearable getaway was a listen up in Park Falls

Beautiful Park Falls up there one of our music stations people actually have one we're contacting all the winners on the big text-to-win contest Including Brewer tickets by the way, and so now that that by the way they have not released the results I'm I'm waiting in nervous anticipation.

We got to find out if we beat Tom Hartman and if

he has to come down here and throw us a party Well, we'll find out he's he ain't gonna come down here.

I know but but

We had a little friendly contest with our friend Jane McNair, by the way, a great show every morning from 9 until 11 on the Civic Media Ready Network.

And she whooped our posteriors in the text to win contest last time around and they retired her text to win jersey because she beat us so soundly.

They may un-retire her in a future edition.

And then they said, why don't you go against Tom Hartman?

And I said, well, I'll go against anybody, but the guy has the number nine nationally syndicated radio show in America, the number one progressive talk show in America.

And they expect our little dog and pony show to go up against him.

I want to know if we did.

So we went, we did.

Well, right.

I and we did.

But now we're waiting to know by here now, they're having to pass the accounting firm of Smith, Wesson and Woffler.

And once it gets through accounting.

and everything is added up will be given the results.

So I'm looking forward to nervous anticipation to that, but the good news for you, the listening public is that we have a brand new, it's back, it's not brand new, it's just back, it's free Friday giveaways from now to the end of brewer season.

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That's right.

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And by the way, what's wrong with me?

I was promoting this yesterday.

I thought, well, I'm doing my job.

I'm promoting.

And then I texted it out this morning or posted it, whatever, on the socials and our great friend, Luke Mathers, always on top of things.

Because, of course, he's in charge of the aforementioned Brewer tickets in his leather satchel that he cures with synthetic mink oil.

And he keeps all the tickets there very, very safely.

He says, Todd, Todd, it ate two tickets.

I have decided I'm going to put the eating to I'm going to give away four tickets.

So here this is great.

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It's a a four pack of Milwaukee Brewer tickets that are up for grabs now Here's the thing on these Friday deals These are for specific games and no you may not exchange them for another game So check your calendars the tickets we're about to give away are for June 27th

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That is next week Friday next week Friday week from today.

Thank you summers So next Friday June 27th 7 10 p.m.

You have people to go to that game So open up or download the civic media app if you don't have it on your Apple or Android device Type in civics the IVIC media takes less than a minute.

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I almost had another word somber, so I'm really glad.

You you scroll down to show me the correct word because that would have been very confusing.

Yeah, not ideal.

No, so the word is blue B L U E and This hour this hour across civic media where I'm sorry next two hours We're going to give away these four tickets.

So we'll be reminding you throughout the show you have until four o'clock to text the word blue B L U E to the civic media app to win those four tickets

for June 27th versus Colorado at 710.

Speaking of the Brewers, got a nice win.

You hear me talk?

Yes.

I had a chance.

Curtin Floresy said, come on down.

We're going to Wrigley.

They sent me these great pictures, having hot dogs and beer on top of a roof overlooking Wrigley.

But no, my loyalty is to you, the listening public.

Also, I was told I couldn't go.

There's that, too.

No, no, no, boys.

I'm happy to be here all the time.

Anyway, the Brewer's got a big win.

Got a big win eight to seven over the evil, terrible Chicago Cubs of Chicago.

And Pat Murphy was hot.

He was salty.

He was slapping guys in the line after the games, celebrating, using what my grandmother would have said, foul language.

follow language, because he was salty at the home play ump, umpire, almost gave it away to the Cubs, but the Brew Crew gets a big win last night over the Cubs on an afternoon eight to seven.

They are in action tonight against the Minnesota Twinkies.

I believe it's seven, 10 as well, Minnesota.

By the way, hang on, you can hear those games on select stations.

of the Civic Media Network.

We cannot air them on the app.

They have to be on select stations, including WRCE, AM 1450 and FM 107.7 in the old hometown of Richland Center.

I know what you're going to say, Zabers.

Yes, it is our requirement to tell you all that today's contest in a local and regional.

This is a statewide.

Contest it sure is I do have another piece of information though.

Yes, so we're giving away tickets for Friday the 27th.

Yes, but on Saturday the 28th It is the Pat Murphy bobblehead game.

Oh really?

I'm not

giving you tickets

for that right now,

but I know if you're able to go I'm sure you'd love

a Does it say does it say naughty words when you bobble?

I

hope so.

Would that be fantastic?

No, that's what for these these tickets were given away today right now are for June 27th next Friday against Colorado 7 10 You may not exchange them for other tickets in order to be eligible to win today Go to the civic media app and text the word blue BLUE BLUE right now to the civic media app

The theme for that

night is $5 Happy Hour Tap Beers.

Really?

Which if you haven't been to a game there, that is quite the discount.

It's

quite the discount.

Make sure you take a designated driver as well, I would say.

Speaking of the Brewers, speaking of the Brewers, great news from our friends Kelly Call and Sean Hannish at the great film Just A Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, available as I have it in my hot little hands.

on DVD.

If you want to own it, go to Amazon.

You can buy it.

You can't beat it with a stick.

It's a great deal.

Just a bit outside the store, the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, still getting a 100 rating on dirty rotten tomatoes.

No, rotten tomatoes.

Here's the news.

Now, the DVD has been out for a while.

It's been available for free on Roku and the Roku channel.

You can stream it for free.

Also recently announced, you can you can either buy it digitally or rent it on.

Apple TV, if you got the old Apple TV, the funny thing when you open Apple TV on your speakers, it goes like a bite out of the apple.

No, not really.

But here's the big news that we are amongst the first to tell you.

And we appreciate that.

Starting today, you can now watch, I believe it or buy, but watch at least just a bit outside on Amazon, on Amazon Prime.

So just a bit outside is going to

prime time.

Check it out.

It's a great film.

If you're not familiar, we've talked about it a lot.

We're very proud.

It's a Wisconsin project.

Kelly and Sean are Wisconsin guys.

They paid for this film out of their own pocket.

And it's a great story.

It's a love affair between Milwaukee and the Brewers and

It's a film for everybody.

So check it out.

Just a bit outside.

Now streaming on Amazon as of today.

All right, we'll come back.

Take a look at some headlines from today.

Ice is back at it.

And then Brady, we're at the bottom of the hour.

Don't go anywhere.

It's the town hall.

I'll show on these civic media.

Ready to work.

Ice, ice, baby.

All right, stop.

Collaborate and listen.

Ice is back with my brand new invention.

Something grabs a hold of me tightly.

Flow like a hawk who daily and nightly.

Will it ever stop?

Yo, I don't know.

Turn off the lights.

And I'll close to the extreme I walk a mic like a vandal Light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle dance Welcome

back to the Tell All Ball Show, the Civic Media Radio Network.

Twenty-two minutes past the hour of two o'clock on a TGIF edition of the All Ball Show, June 20th, 2025.

A little Ice Ice Baby there, Zombers.

That's an old one.

What did that do?

Is it the same one that came out?

Was it like in 1987?

Um, let's see.

All right.

I'm going to say it was from my...

from my youth and childhood, as they say.

1990.

90.

All right.

Well, it's my college days.

Ice, ice, baby.

By the way, I've heard from the parents of the God's sons, Curt and Forsey, apparently who went to this Brewer's game yesterday, big win over the Cubs, eight to seven.

Apparently now the game was so big, it required them to stay in the Windy City overnight.

The celebration was that large of Brewer's fans down.

That's fantastic.

So they're all they're listening the way back.

So shout out.

Hopefully they they have a safe trip home.

Kurt tends to like to run run the toll roads.

He just goes right through.

I mean, if you do that, you can then pay for it later on.

Why?

No, they'll be safe.

They'll be fine the way back.

So anyway, they're on the big Brewer's game again.

We're right smack dab in the middle.

of the big free Friday ticket giveaway for Brewer tickets up for grabs for June 27th at Amfam Field, game time 7.10 p.m.

You can be eligible to enter by going to the Civic Media app right now, choosing one of the first 11 stations, clicking the word text, and then text the word blue, B-L-U-E, blue, text the word blue right now.

I want to touch on this.

I think we're going to come back to it later in the show.

Because I think it needs more time than they will really able to give it right here.

If you've been watching the show or listening to the show, we've been talking about this for some time.

And this is this, uh, this edict put out by Trump, President Trump and his minion Miller, Stephen Miller, to have mass deportations.

We of course were down at Milwaukee for the Republican National Convention.

They had placards on the chairs.

It's a mass deportations now And a lot of people during the election when we talked about this and said look this ain't gonna be good if Trump gets back in I they said, you know, Trump's they're just saying that it's just a rev people up.

They're not really gonna do a lot of this Well now we found out that actually they are It was bonkers confusing about this

is that instead of going after the true criminals, as Trump said he would, he's going after moms at grade schools waiting for her kids.

And they've decided now to visit home depots and not in a good way.

You don't see it quite so much in Wisconsin, but I've been out to Los Angeles a lot and you see it in LA where you have essentially they're day laborers.

They're really great guys.

Most of the time, younger guys, sometimes older.

And they're guys that may or may not have documentation, but they hang out, not in a creepy way, but they're there at Home Depot, and you have people that say they're putting on a new roof or building a fence or a stone wall.

And it's like, well, I can't do this alone.

And you got two, three, four guys there, and you say, hey, I'll pay you X amount of dollars in cash for the day.

Come help me.

And they're great, hardworking people.

They pay taxes.

People forget that, by the way.

People forget the undocumented folks pay taxes.

And they don't get that money back.

There's no refund, by the way, if you're undocumented.

So they hire... Well, so now what ICE is doing, because Stephen Miller has said, hey, boys, you're not deporting enough people.

Trump ain't happy.

So they're going to farm fields in Los Angeles.

They're going to hoteliers, service industry.

which the people that own these big companies, the big ag companies and hotel companies, they called up Donald and they said, Don, Don, this ain't working out so well because guess what?

We can't get legal young white people to do these jobs.

And there's food rotten in the field.

And there's hotel beds not being made.

And so Don last week said, oh, that ain't gonna work so well.

And so he said, boys, lay off on it.

Well, now here, yesterday,

Ice is back at it in Los Angeles and visited a home depot and cracked down.

I want to play you just the start of this.

We're gonna come back and revisit this in hour two, but this is the start.

This is courtesy of KTLA TV in Los Angeles.

Several

people were running upwards, Wilkins Place.

I informed them

that ice agents were around the area, they were aware of that.

And

then

that's when an SUV pulled up, came out, two agents tackled down a individual with no questions.

They placed his face into the dirt, physically apprehended him.

And we reached out to officials for more details on today's raid.

They said, while they can't comment on every single operation, these raids continue on a daily basis, and that today's raid was routine, routine federal immigration law enforcement operation.

You're out here.

Let's stop right there.

We're gonna come back and finish that up in the next hour.

That's from KTLA Los Angeles television.

And I witnessed to what happened.

And the point that's made in this post, by the way,

is that ICE is purposely avoiding the gang areas of Los Angeles for their own safety.

But I thought they were only deporting criminals.

That's exactly the point we're gonna make here.

That Trump claimed he'd go after criminals, a lot of big talk about deporting gangs, but in actuality, because they're too scared to go after actual criminals,

They're targeting innocent, hard-working people and families and steering clear of the actual gangs.

Let that sink in.

Meanwhile, across town at Dodger Stadium, a corporation that knows where their bread and butter is made said no to ICE when they tried to visit Dodger Stadium and kicked them out.

Maybe it's time Home Depot and some of these other big companies stand up and do the same thing have grow a set Grow a set and say no to these ice thugs back after this with Brady Ewing don't go anywhere It's the title of all show the civic media ready network Pam Yankee Midwest

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Discount shades, store-bought tan, flip-flops and cut-off jeans.

Somewhere between that set and the sun, I'm on fire, I'm bone to run.

You looked at me and I was done, but we were just getting started.

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to all of you out there on a Friday June 20th, 2025.

Glad to have you along.

Zommer is spinning the tunes for you some Friday tunes on the board and joining us from the old hometown Richland Center, Wisconsin in the beautiful driftless area.

What former Governor Lee Sherman Dreyfus once called a 23rd song place Southwest Wisconsin.

He is a three time Big Ten champion with the Wisconsin Badger football team was a captain of the team along with Russell Wilson, Aaron Henry and others.

His senior year started as a walk on but earned his way to all the way to the captain of the team and then spent three years in the NFL.

That's the National Football League.

Do you and me, Mr Brady Ewing?

How are you, sir?

Doing good.

How are you, Todd?

Find his frog here, as Ken Lewis used to say, back in class.

I saw Ken Lewis last night.

I didn't get a chance to talk to him, but I saw him walk in the streets of RC last night.

Well, and please put the pressure on him because I keep trying to get him on this show.

I tell him we have international listeners.

Did I tell you this story?

No.

I forget the guy's name.

I'm sorry.

He sent me a very nice email.

He's originally from Richland Center.

He's, I think, teaching English in China, or as Ken Lewis used to call it, China.

And he's in China.

And he says he listens to the show, not so much for me, but he listens for the Ken Lewis references and stories.

Holy cow.

Well, you need to get Mr. Lewis on the show.

Right?

I keep saying I said come on the show for years Brady for years Back when I was Republican as a nerdy the Alex P Keaton of the Richland Middle School He would harass me being the longtime Democrat he was and now now that I've left the the Republican Party and and I'm much more the Democratic side now.

He doesn't want to come on the show

I'll work on him for you.

Thank you.

He said he claims he says well what we talk about he's too modest and he has a lot he has a lot to say.

Oh he would he'd be great

and I can

just picture him saying

Nobody wants to hear me talk.

Right.

Exactly.

People do.

People like the stories, obviously.

They do.

All right.

Enough of Old Hometown Week here.

As they say, that's not why you're called.

Brady, always great to have you here.

Now, you and your lovely wife, Rachel, have four amazing boys.

School is done.

What do what do what does a family with four energetic boys do during the summer?

Yeah, changes day by day, but it could be.

anything from going to the pool in Richland Center here or earlier this week the boys were making homemade long long bows so taking sticks trying to whittle those down and putting some string on them.

I have just a great video Todd I'll have to share with you of my oldest Bennett shooting his longbow after he had spent a lot of time building it and putting it together and he had subsequently tried this before but

The bow didn't have quite the strength that he wanted or expected and he we got a captured on our ring camera him shooting his bow and The arrow traveled maybe 35 40 yards down through our yard and he just went hysterical and excited Excitement and thrill that he ended up building this bow that could shoot an arrow with some force and some distance So I'll have to share that with you, but please Duke built building long bows, you know

bombing around the house, catching butterflies in the woods, getting ticks on them as they look for fun things in the woods, messing around.

They're in the garden this morning, messing around with Rachel picking weeds.

So just doing outdoor stuff, enjoying the time.

And then of course playing some sports as well with baseball this time of year.

I see that.

I think that's great.

And it warms my heart to know that there are still families and kids doing this stuff because I think back.

And look, I mean, I think screens have their place, I guess, but we didn't have screens back.

We have one one TV in the living room.

What I was growing up and I

think, you

know, I think of my in my really young days.

Rob wheat and I who are lived a house apart we'd we'd you know go play the trees for good sake or or chase each other around outside or or or do something like that and then you know my time on our grandparents farm and just as you said good go in the woods I I could I could just

make up stuff in the woods, you know, digging holes, cutting tree limbs, building forts.

And and I think that just stimulates a person's creativity and their mind.

And I just think it makes all of us mentally healthy, whether as kids or whether as we get older to just spend some time outside.

I agree with you 100 percent.

We are we try to be not that we're better than anybody else because of this, but we just try to be very intentional about the screen time thing.

Our kids.

At least to now, don't play video games.

We don't have any of those in the house.

We try to do an intentional screen time one time a week.

So Friday night or depending on our schedule, we try to do a movie night as a family where we put on a Disney movie or something else and watch that with the kids.

So yeah, we want them to get outside as much as they can.

And yeah, banks actually came up.

I went out in the kitchen before.

Uh, we talk, we're talking here and he's like, Hey, can I go outside and build an underground shelter and start digging a hole?

And I'm like, hold on a second.

I'm going on the radio here with Todd.

Let me, let me get my bearings about me and we can talk about this later.

So to your point, it sounds like you were doing some of that too.

Absolutely.

I think, I think just the fact that he thinks in those terms, I think that's great.

And without naming names, cause I find this, I mean, how old is your oldest one?

He's 10.

See, I mean, there are a lot of, as you well know, a lot of kids that age are on their screens all the time without naming names.

Do you see a difference in your kids?

I don't know, behaviorally or other thought process compared to other kids they may hang out with that do a lot of screen time, their energy or I don't know.

Can you tell?

It's tough.

not really in the way I interact with kids because it's typically in a sports type atmosphere, I guess.

So most of them are, you know, and each kid is unique in their own way.

So just try to narrow down whether screen time or something like that might impact it.

That would be really tough.

I do have a lot of conversations with parents of kids I'm coaching or working with.

And, you know, there's, oh, I wish, you know, Bobby using kind of a stage name, Bobby would just spend less time on.

you know, the video games are out not in front of the TV, you know, working on sports or just outside playing.

So I do hear a lot of parents say that, but it's tough to draw a correlation to kids' behavior being different because of, of screen time.

But I know there's a lot of research out there and how that can impact kids and behaviorally and all that too.

I think maybe next time we'll spend a bit more time talking about this, but let's tease folks a little bit.

Brady Ewing, a three-time Big Ten champion with Wisconsin Badgers three years of the NFL.

Join us from Richland Center right now via StreamYard.

You're doing another camp this summer.

You're putting the details together right now.

Is that right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thanks for asking.

Yep.

So with, oh man, I should have looked before we got on here, but I think this will be year six or seven.

of the Brady Ewing football camp here in Richland Center and really it's a chance to get kids around the game of football, talk about football and sports in general and different life lessons that they can learn from that and learn some of the fundamentals of the game and just spend a couple days of throwing the ball around, working on footwork and how to take a handoff, how to catch a pass and kind of put all that together.

So yeah, finalizing some of the details with Coach Andy Troxel here in Richland Center.

And we'll be seeing more come out about that here in the near future.

Well, if you don't follow Brady on Twitter, X, Twix, whatever you want to call it, it's at B. Ewing 34, his old number, with the Badgers, or on Insta, Instagram, at bradie.

So check that out.

You can also do this.

Do yourself a favor.

I mean, if you've got kids that are just moping around, if you've got a team that hasn't won a game in five years, do yourself a favor.

Spend a couple of bucks.

Hit up Brady.

He'll come over.

He'll yell at him.

He'll not.

No, he won't tell you.

He'll motivate him.

He'll give him good, good information.

And I've heard some of the things you do, Brady.

It's great stuff.

You're really, really great with youth and young people.

You're very honest with them.

And I know that the schools you have gone to

I'm really, really thankful for what you've done with them.

Thanks, Tom.

Yeah, it's been rewarding

for me, too.

I think just using the stories and experiences I've had, we've talked about a lot of those on here from time to time, but using those experiences and life lessons to just help others hopefully learn and develop without having to go through some of the same struggles I did or the failures that I had.

Brady, we're I'm not sure you're the hills of Richland County having to affect your your mics breaking up a little bit So I'll let you and Zommer's work on that and while you're doing that I am going to tell folks remind me we're right Mac smack dab in the middle of our Brewer ticket giveaway right now It's the free ticket Friday up for grabs for Brewer tickets to the June 27th game against the Colorado Rockies at 7 10 remember you cannot exchange these tickets

for another day so you have to be able to go

on June 27th against Colorado at 710.

So if you are so inclined to download the Civic Media app, go to the first 11 stations and then click on that.

It'll say text, text the word blue right now, B-L-U-E blue right now on the Civic Media app.

And you'll be eligible for those four Brewer tickets on June 27th.

Blue, B-L-U-E, text the word right now on the Civic Media app.

Let's go to the phone line.

I think Brady might be back in action now on the the connection 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Rick calling in from a walkie-saw listen to the UK Rick.

Thanks for calling.

What do you have?

Thanks for taking my call.

I want to when I just put out I've been watching it the last season of the red green show It's 20 year anniversary.

It's a great outdoor show and humor right absolutely

And, uh, there's a game on each one of the shows in the last season is to trick somebody into saying a word.

Are you trying to trick me into saying a word, Rick?

Is that it?

No, I'm just trying to put, it's pretty, pretty funny.

I've been watching it for a few days.

It's a, it's a great, it's a great show.

Thanks, Rick.

I appreciate the call.

Brady.

Thanks.

You too, Rick.

You ever watched a red green?

I haven't, no.

Oh, check it out.

I've actually never heard of it.

It's really, it's especially great for like, you know, for a husband or wife to watch together because it is two guys on older, well, kind of like me and maybe a little bit younger than you.

And I think the younger guy played his nephew or something like that.

And so it's a lot of stereotypical stuff that men tend to do.

And some of the lines in the show are, you know, I'm a man, I can change if I have to.

I guess.

I guess.

Yeah, I guess.

Yeah.

Right.

Rachel

would get a kick out of

it.

Yeah.

And that's what I'm saying.

No, I think that's especially with, you know, you and four boys in the house.

All right.

The the connection has been established now, Brady.

Let's let's talk and start now.

We got a couple of minutes.

We'll come back and talk about it after the after the break.

Here's we've talked about name, image and likeness a lot, which is infiltrated college sports, college football in particular.

But here's the angle I want to ask you.

because, you know, you played under, most of your time under coach Brett Bielomo, and then coach Chris, who had been the offensive coordinator, came back as the head coach, and he was caught during his time on camera when the Badgers took on Miami in the Orange Bowl, the home of the Miami.

And then Miami was very popular that year, high ranked, and they had something called the turnover chain.

Every time the defense got a turnover, the guy who got it put on this big, gaudy, ridiculous chain.

And it was over.

And Coach Chris got caught on camera when Wisconsin beat the pants off of Miami in the orange bowl, kind of covered his mouth.

And I can't say all the words, but basically, you know, I'll show you a blankety blank turnover chain because the Badgers got most of the turnover.

So now we've gone from a Wisconsin coach that.

Curse is a turnover chain.

Brady, Fickle is putting up thrones at Camp Randall to put recruits on.

This is real, right?

This is real life.

All right, when it comes back, is NiL making guys soft?

We'll come back and discuss with Brady Ewing.

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Work eight minutes before the hour of three o'clock, hour number two, what's worse, buying a car or leasing a car.

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But right now we're discussing other things.

Brady, we need a three-time Big Ten champion with the Wisconsin Badger football team.

Spent three years with the NFL.

And speaking of boys, has four boys of his own.

I don't know, Zomers.

I tended to, when I was a boy, I think I cried when I... I know, I did.

I got, I'd horn it sometimes.

Get into a nest of hornets, I remember.

Oh, that was my grandparents farm.

That was not fun.

Ground hornets.

No, it was actually it was one of those wasp ones, the black nest and everything.

And it was hanging off of the milk house on the side.

And I didn't know it was there.

And I shut the sliding door hard and it jiggled the nest and they came after me.

Oh, man.

Hornets are absolutely relentless when you get them fired up.

I hit a ground horn at nest weed eating one time when I was working at the park and wreck in town.

And those things literally chased me all the way back to the shop.

I don't think I've ever ran so fast.

I'm sure you ran so fast and I ran my

fouries.

Boy, Kyle.

Not for the tall.

By the way, Mark and Perzac, Brady and I were talking earlier about summer activities.

I don't have time to read the whole thing, but Mark spent a lot of time out in the nature when he was growing up.

Frogs, salamanders, that sort of thing he says in his backyard.

And he brought up the brook stickleback, which I didn't know what it was.

Zommer's looked it up.

It's a fish, Brady, that has like little big spikes on its spine.

Crazy yeah, I googled it too while you're talking about a very break and as I've never seen one of those It's like something from a different country.

It really does obviously we should have got it I just like talking to you, but we should have gotten into this earlier, but the whole point here was Is NIL name image like this making?

College players soft and obviously I'm saying that a little bit tongue-in-cheek But the point is that now it seems like Brady unlike when you were a walk-on at Wisconsin earning your way now Place like Wisconsin.

They for folks that don't know they've made an actual throne Obviously it's not real gold, but they put it out on Camp Randall I guess it's for the guys to take pictures for Instagram or whatever, but I mean

Is this just too much molly coddling to get these recruits and NIL the transfer reporter?

Well, what's going

on Brady?

It's crazy.

I mean, you know, earlier we were talking about playing outside and video games and how, you know, different generations, you know, my generation, if you you could jump on your bike in the early morning, just spent all day out on the town on your bike, go to the pool with your friends and.

you know now kids some kids do that other ones are sitting in front of screens and I feel like that's the way recruiting started to go to is that game has totally changed and it's all about what type of picture or content can these recruits put out to you know pat themselves on the back for where they're getting recruited at and how good can you make them feel to consider your school so the game has totally changed through the years.

And there's some for the better and in some minor ways, but overall, I mean, it's just crazy to see how they're coddling to some of these athletes so that they can put out a fancy Instagram picture or X picture.

And I think it has a lot to do with NIL and just trying to do anything and everything possible to intrigue these folks to come to their school.

Our friend Earl Ingram, Jr.

was on the show yesterday or day before yesterday.

He does a camp with the grave digger, Gilbert Brown for a packer down in Milwaukee area.

And he was telling this great story.

I'll shorten it up of Gilbert having this football camp and these kids in middle school or high school, one of the kids comes with a big do rag or something.

And Gilbert says to him, he says, you see that brick wall over there?

He goes, yeah.

And he goes, see how solid that is?

Yeah.

If you don't take that blanket like do rag off right now, it's going to have a door in it.

And you're going to be the one to put it there.

So there is no Molly Connelly and a Gilbert Brown football camp.

That's

great.

That's a little different than the Brady football camp, but maybe.

Maybe I could take a lesson from that.

I don't know.

I don't know.

One of the former Wisconsin Badger football players, I thought you might get a kick out of this speaking of the football team, Fayon Hicks, who played for the Badgers from 2017 to 2021.

He retweeted a picture that was put out yesterday of Jimmy Leonard.

Great to walk on at Wisconsin.

They ended up being the longtime defensive coordinator and spent a minute as interim head coach before being passed over for Luke Fickle.

and Hick says, quote, Jimmy, the one X, who was a perfect match, Wisconsin, let get away for that hot Instagram model.

She looks good on the internet, but are you really happy?

Oh man, I did not see that, but that is.

And you look at the way recruiting is transitioned and I.

Coach Chris was going to have to adjust things to be able to fit in with the recruits of today's day and age and as things have evolved with NIL, but I feel like Jim Leonard would have been a really nice addition to bridge that gap to be able to recruit and do all of that while still have those Wisconsin roots.

But that is a great, that is a classic post by Hicks right there.

I thought that was pretty good.

Uh, all right, well, but don't forget, folks, if you want to, uh, have Brady come speak to your, to your group, please do.

He's, he's great at that.

And just follow him as, if you have a young, a person that wants to go to his football camp, he'll be releasing that, uh, at, uh, B Ewing B is in Brady Ewing 34 on Twix, that's Twitter at X or Instagram, Brady, B R A D I E dot Ewing Brady.

Always a pleasure.

We got about a minute left.

Anything else you want to talk about?

No, here's

a hang on.

We got a question from Jim Jim in Brookfield.

Hey Brady What was your biggest win at Wisconsin or the NFL?

Great question.

What was your most great question?

Probably the biggest one was when we beat Ohio State and they were number one Or a big 10 championship when we played Michigan State first inaugural big 10 championship game in Indianapolis playing Michigan State would be does earlier that year I'd say those are probably two of the biggest program wins if

You know, we went to a couple Rose Bowl that we could have sealed the deal on one of those against Oregon or TCU.

Those would probably be up there, but.

Man so many great good

games and memories what would have helped if you would have had a fair officiating crew against Oregon as well, but

that's another

story You know did you see Pat Murphy getting spicy last night at the ump against the Cubs that was fantastic all right Brady you're fantastic have a great weekend there stay cool

the

boys We'll talk to you soon.

Thank you very much Brady.

Thank you back

after this on the civic media ready network

From the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba Show.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.

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Good afternoon, everybody.

I'm Tyler Obama, along with Mr. Aaron Zommers on the board.

It is six minutes past the hour of three o'clock.

Welcome into hour number two of the big broadcast live from downtown Madison, the old world headquarters on State Street, where the sun Zommers has come out.

It sure has.

And we didn't even have to wait till tomorrow.

By the way, it's Friday, June 20th, 2025.

It's a great day to be Wisconsinite.

Glad to have you along.

Many thanks to Brady Ewing for being here.

You just feel better after Brady has spent some time here.

So many thanks to him, and always great to catch up with him, get a little perspective on sports and life with Brady Ewing.

Coming up a little bit later, gonna get back into a little serious news of the day here.

Nothing.

I mean, some of the things we talked about with Brady was serious, but wanting it back to what's going on in Los Angeles in terms of ice cracking down and not just Los Angeles, by the way, we've seen it here in Wisconsin.

And also the response, what responsibility do corporations like Home Depot have?

to take you to stand much like the Los Angeles Dodgers did yesterday as well.

So we'll get it.

We have a quiz for you.

We're going to get to that.

Not a quiz.

It's a who do you trust for news?

We're going to get into that a little bit later as well.

But Zommer's going to be sticky this week.

A little

sultry.

Unfortunately, it sure is.

And I am going to have a lot of water with me.

Yes,

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Tonight.

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I do not yeah, I wish I was starting at 10 p.m.

Is pretty I

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I don't want to eat.

I mean if I

wasn't working today, but

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855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.

Mark wanted to talk about deportations.

Is that it?

Is that it?

All right, so let's...

What should we do here, but we're 13 minutes past the hour We got people in the phone.

Why not in hour number one?

We were talking about what's going on in Los Angeles in terms of ice furthering these crackdowns At home deep again, these are the story here is that they're intentionally Isis avoiding areas where there are gangs in Los Angeles and they're going after these folks

who are just innocent day laborers, not with any criminal record at Home Depot.

And they're also going, taking moms who are waiting to pick up their kids in Los Angeles.

And also there's new reporting today that some of these so-called ICE people that are wearing the masks and don't have any badges, they're actually bounty hunters.

And that the federal government

may well be offering $1,000 to $1,500 to private bounty hunters to pick people up.

I mean, this is out of control.

855-752-4842.

Mark, thanks for hanging around, my friend.

Let's

see.

Yeah, not a problem.

Yeah, I see where the Trump was talking about offering people money to self-deport.

And I saw one figure like $1,000 apiece to self-deport.

which is not not nearly enough you know if they're going to be doing that but if there's you know three hundred fifty thousand or five hundred thousand people you multiply that by a thousand you quickly go up to half a billion dollars you know to you know expense it's going to be up to the uh... to the treasury to get those people to self-deport i'd point out that there's not supposed to be any of this money going out anyway because it's not a specific appropriation that's required by congress

under article, what is it, article 10 of the Constitution, that, you know, no money shall be drawn from the treasury, but by consequence of appropriations made by law.

I mean, that is in the Constitution and that the administration needs to be held to that.

I mean, that they have to, if they want to be expending this money, plus paying bonuses and paying for bounty hunters, that should be going through the regular appropriation process through Congress.

I mean, that it is just,

Disgusting we're doing this anyway.

You're not going after the worst of the worst but actually going at removing people's legal status Yeah, and then say well, we're gonna deport you know that is just It's just horrific.

It is just horrific.

I appreciate the call mark.

Thank you very much my friend a 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Let's play the rest of this clip.

This is from KT LA.

We played part of it in hour 1.

Let's finish this up KT LA in Los Angeles talking to

eyewitnesses who saw ice come in, swoop in, and just disappear some of these people at the Home Depot in Los Angeles.

You're out here.

We've been seeing the gentleman who's been very emotional.

His wife was detained.

He has no idea where she was taken.

But you said some of the people detained today were also your neighbors.

That's right.

My neighbors, unfortunately, got taken.

They are not bad people.

They are not criminals.

They are hard workers.

They came here for a better life because that's what the United States is about, right?

You have freedom.

You come here for a better life because, unfortunately, you run from countries, your own home.

That's not the best, right?

You come here looking for a better life.

You come here for sanctuary.

You come here to think that you're

you're going to make it out here.

But unfortunately, with these people coming and taking our own people, the people that constructed California, the people that work for the California, the people who do a lot for us, right?

They're taking them.

What are you going to do when we're not here?

What are you going to do when you have nobody left to work with

for you?

And the woman you mentioned who was taken, she's pregnant?

She's actually pregnant.

That's the saddest part.

She's pregnant.

She must have been scared.

You don't know if this is going to cost you stress to her baby.

You don't know if she might lose the baby from the shock.

quick question and I don't mean to come across as insensitive, but this is part of the Trump administration's mandate.

President making it clear that anyone who's here who's not here legally that this is going to be a part of the process as inhumane as many may categorize it.

There is another argument about

I feel like it's wrong.

Like I said, they're saying that they're going to take everybody.

But why everybody when you have actual criminals that were born here and who have done way worse stuff and yet they don't get the same punishment we're getting?

Why is that?

I want an answer to that.

Seriously.

Why is it that criminals can get away with so much who are born here criminals?

And yet our people are innocent.

They're working hard.

They're doing stuff to make it out here, right?

Great point.

That's KTLA Channel 5 in Los Angeles, California talking to witnesses.

And that young woman right there who is talking to the reporter, eyewitness, brings up a great point that the Trump administration is now rounding up

Like cattle basically Humans in Los Angeles among them pregnant women This for a party my former party that I left in 2011 this from a party that likes to pride itself on pro-life issues Don't want abortions But yet they're rounding up pregnant women like wild animals and putting their pregnancies at risk

It's sick.

It's beyond sick.

And to the witness's point, there are actual real criminals in Los Angeles, but ICE is leaving them alone because, you know, they don't want to put themselves out there.

855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.

Let's go out to Los Angeles, California.

L.A.

Tom is on the phone.

L.A.

about a minute left here.

Set the stage.

We'll take a break and then we'll bring you back.

All right, three words to describe Donald Trump.

He is a waste.

He is a fraud and he abuses all of us.

Get the hell out of our city.

He is causing more problems.

You know, people running that aren't even guilty of anything that are going to cause accidents or are going to get hit by cars.

All of this just because of the simple fact of having these

So many Marines and so many much What do you call it police presence Well, I have a police presence the National Guard

military presence

just get the hell out of our city

We are doing fine.

Right.

It's not needed.

I mean, you're on the ground there.

Again, for people I talk

to

out there, yeah, for people that I talk to that I know, friends and family, it's what Trump is doing is simply not needed.

Appreciate the call, LA.

If you want to hang around to the break, we'll bring you back on.

Continue this.

We're going to talk about what the Los Angeles Dodgers did in terms of ICE and why more corporations aren't doing that.

Don't go anywhere.

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Welcome back to the Town Hall Ball Show on the Civic Media Radio.

We're 22 now, past the hour of three o'clock on Friday, June 20th, 2025.

Zommer's on the board.

Gonna have a little bit of fun here in a bit today's category in what's worse, buying a car or leasing a car.

Gonna do that here in a bit.

And also, who do you trust for news?

Gonna be talking about that as well.

But right now, wanna finish up on this issue.

And again, I get it that people will say, well, Tom, this is in Los Angeles.

But it's already happened in some places in Wisconsin where ice has rounded people up Tried to go to school districts Going after kids So if you think that this isn't isn't gonna visit your community You're sorely mistaken if you think you're immune as a better way to put it You're not But there's one one place that's standing up and I have my Uker

Brewer Jersey on today, by the way, text the word blue, B L U E right now to the Civic Media app, B L U E. Text that word right now and you'll be eligible for four Milwaukee Brewer tickets for June 27th.

I'm a Brewer's fan and by the way, I'm not a big Dodger fan normally because they've beaten us in a couple of NLCS's.

But you know what?

As a Brewer's fan, I'm willing to give the Dodgers a bunch of credit and kudos.

Today, I'm a Dodgers fan.

Want to give you a flavor, a little flavor.

Nobody did it better I haven't seen so far than on Chris Hayes' show last night on MSNBC, who had a reporter, Jacob Soboroff, right there at Dodger Stadium.

Here's a little clip of what happened in LA last night.

Chris, it was an unbelievable scene here today.

Tom Homo and I talked to him on the first Saturday night after these raids started, said that every day in Los Angeles there would be some sort of immigration enforcement.

Some days would be big days, some days would not be so big.

Today feels like it was a big day because the morning started off with a raid at a Home Depot in Hollywood and there were reports of raids all over Los Angeles.

Eventually today, thank you so much.

They're coming in for the game, Chris.

Eventually today, those agents showed up here at Dodger Stadium.

And they were cornered by protesters because the Dodgers did not let them into the parking lot.

Behind me, where people are going in for the game right now, there's a channeling fence that is closed when the games are not being played.

And so these federal agents, I says it wasn't them, but CBP says it was their agents, so Border Patrol, they tried to get in and the Dodgers rejected them.

So they were quickly.

frankly boxed in by protesters and that's when we showed up on the scene today and those basically this this this standoff for lack of a better term unfolded between those border patrol those federal agents and the protesters here who had been out in force every single day because of the scale and the scope of the protests on the streets of Los Angeles and what it means to the people here in Los Angeles Chris.

There you go that's MSNBC reporting Jacob Silveroff on Chris Hayes' program.

Said it so well.

So what happened was ice shows up or border patrol agents and and they were gonna make this raid at Dodger Stadium And Dodger said no you ain't coming in And the protesters closed in behind them So what the Dodgers end up having to do is take him off through a side street to get him out of the out of the stadium and away from the protesters who weren't happy about this But applause to the Dodgers

The Los Angeles Dodgers And if you know anything about Dodgers Stadium in LA are you still there by the way LA Tom up Los Angeles, are you still on the line LA?

Yes, I am so You I'm sure know this but for our listeners and don't when the Dodgers first came out to LA from New York

In order to build Dodger Stadium, they displace three Latino slash Hispanic neighborhoods and it caused a lot of hard feelings.

But over the years, the Dodgers now, LA, am I right in saying that probably Latino Hispanic folks make up the core majority base of LA Dodger

fans.

Yeah, 50% of the fans are Latino.

So these guys know that not only is it maybe the right thing to do, it is the right thing to do, but I think the Dodgers are saying from a financial point, we ain't gonna offend half of our base.

Would you go along with that, LA?

Absolutely.

Like I said, I mean, it's almost gonna become like a nervous breakdown around here because people are just like, I mean, literally looking over their shoulders.

You know, it's just so it doesn't have to be this way.

We talked about yesterday about humans being humans and people believing the same blood as everybody else.

Knock it off, Trump.

Knock it off.

You know, this authoritarian dictatorship.

Let people just live.

Let them go to a ballgame and enjoy a ballgame for God's sake.

Right.

Go enjoy a baseball game.

I

want to get your sense

of this as

somebody who lives out Los Angeles on the ground there.

I mean again, I applaud the Dodgers for for sticking up for isn't

it about time

the other corporations like Home Depot do the same thing and say we're we're gonna put our own security people on the perimeter of the Home Depot property and you ain't gonna do this

100% but you know Home Depot is a big unfortunately a big donor of the Trump administration, but I agree with you.

It's they should be stepping up to the plate and You know, I mean right now you go to Home Depot there's anybody in the

you know, in the driveway area where you normally would pick up a day labor or something like that.

It just was not happening.

And people are not showing up for their, you know, surgeries or the nurses aren't showing up.

So therefore you got people canceling surgeries.

I mean, they have done a real number on the fourth largest economy in the world.

And if you don't think it affects people in other states, you're crazy because you're next.

Right.

We've already seen it somewhat.

We've seen it somewhat here in Wisconsin already.

I mean, most people know Judge Dugan in Milwaukee was arrested herself on what I think are pretty bogus charges, but that's making his way through the court system.

And we've seen other reports of ICE in Milwaukee and other places in Wisconsin.

ice attempting to contact the Eau Claire school district to go after kids.

So, I mean, this is not happening in some far off city in Los Angeles.

This is why we have to be cognizant.

I always appreciate your time, LA, because I'm a big believer in talking with people who are there.

not through the lens of media or anything, but the people who are there.

So thanks, LA.

Keep safe.

Have a good weekend.

We'll talk to you later.

Come on back, everybody.

You're going to play a little round of what's worse.

Don't go anywhere.

It's the all-ball show for a Friday on the Civic Media Ready Network.

the Tahleball show of the Civic Media Radio Network 35 minutes now past the hour three o'clock on Friday, TGIF, June 20th.

Zommerer is rolling the tunes there nicely.

Dunn going to talk cars in a minute for a little what's worse.

Zommerer is going to try to get into a board game before it's all said and done.

And who do you trust for news?

All that's straight ahead.

But first of all, just cleaning up in aisle one.

No, just trying to clean up the last subject talking about these ice raids in Los Angeles.

Some of these things have been happening in Wisconsin as well going to places like Home Depot where day laborers are trying to get an innocent job.

They haven't done a crime and They're being taken off the streets and disappeared also pregnant women Meanwhile ice is avoiding the gang areas Los Angeles because they don't want to get hurt Dodgers threw them out of Dodger Stadium yesterday said no not here.

You cannot come in

and the LAPD escort ice off of Dodger Stadium property.

Very quickly, let's go to our friend Jack in Merrimack.

Jack, it's going to be hot up on the Wisconsin River there in Merrimack this weekend.

Stay cool.

What do you got, my friend?

Oh, yeah.

Well, I can always swim at Devil's Lake, I guess.

Exactly right.

It's right there.

Anyway, yeah.

So I don't really blame the people at Home Depot or others for either seriously resisting being picked up by these so-called ICE people or even running away from trying to escape.

Anybody that's ever read

Either some true crime stories or stories about organized crime or even even a detective novel realizes Somebody comes up to you with a mask on No ID and demands you go into a car with them.

You're not likely to come back.

Yeah, and that is

That is a serious issue.

How they can get away with this stuff, it just, it absolutely amazes me.

And hiring out, I mean, we're, Trump already pardoned a bunch of criminals.

And those guys,

We're willing to actually try to start an insurrection against their own government.

January 6th, folks.

Yeah, absolutely right.

No, Jack.

Thanks for calling, Jack.

Have a great weekend, by the way.

I forget what show I was listening to, because I listened to a lot of civic media.

And on one of our fine programs here, one of the other hosts had Jim Santel.

our very own Jim Santel, host of Amicus Law Review on the weekends here.

He's a former US attorney.

He knows what's up when it comes to law.

And he was talking about this very thing that Jack was on these masks, on these unidentifiable, so-called ICE people.

And Jim Santel was saying that the law is a little fuzzy here.

The jury is out, so to speak, because they are allowed to be...

Unidentifiable if they're on a legitimate undercover operation where their identity could compromise their own safety But the law is a little fuzzy as I understand it from Jim Santel.

I have they taken this too far legally I think you know a lay person like me would say yes, but We'll see by the way to an inter Jim Santel tomorrow tomorrow morning

because he's a guy that knows what's up and and he can answer all your all your legal legal questions.

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The category right now for what's worse buying the car or leasing the car what's worse 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 lots of controversy sometimes around this Because cars they ain't cheap anymore

Very expensive by a car these days and with interest rates up and that sort of thing, I mean you see payments now, people pay $500 a month for a car payment.

I mean, I don't think I ever paid, try to think.

I don't know that I ever had over like a $350 car payment.

In fact, my truck is paid for, and it's kind of a lifetime warranty, so I will have

that thing a long time.

I have never had a car payment, but that's because I've only driven clunkers.

All right.

I've

had car payments, but I so what's what's worse buying a car or leasing a car 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 carry listening in tosa on WMDX as depends as a former car salesperson Generally, this is great.

We have a car salesperson says generally speaking leases are actually better for a lot of people

People who get new cars even three to five years and don't drive a bunch of miles a year Those folks should lease Lisa's get a bad rap in my opinion.

My car is 14 years old.

So of course, I don't lease worse for me now that's Constructive insightful information from one of our great listeners viewers.

Thank you Kerry.

I appreciate that that makes sense by the way if you don't if you don't drive a lot

Maybe lease is better for you.

If you like new cars, right?

If you're so much I've no known people my most of my life There are people out there that you know, they'll trade every year or every other year.

That's just what they do They are they want that warranty they want and they have the ability to kind of save back money So they just they trade every yeah, and if that's you Lisa just makes more sense.

Lease might be a better deal for you Jim in Brookfield Listing in says leasing a car is worse

Even though it's somewhat maintenance free after years of payments, you have nothing to show for it.

Buying a car, buying a car, you own that car.

Again, maybe for people the longer term that might make the most sense.

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Cam in Appleton, Wisconsin in the Fox Valley, as they say, says leasing is worse.

I want to own my challenger.

Damn it.

I'm never giving it up.

All right.

Cam channel, great, great Dodge product there.

The old, uh, the old challenger.

What else we have here?

Uh, Steve in beautiful Milwaukee, home of summer fest down there on the UK says this is a tough one.

Leasing can be a pain if you have to fix it.

Zombers asked the question earlier, what if you have an accident with a lease car?

Well, my understanding is you, you, the individual are still required to have car insurance.

And your car insurance company has to know that it's a leased vehicle.

So my understanding is if you get into a Collision or whatever you have to have enough insurance on it to cover

it, right?

I guess a better that makes sense I guess the better question what I really meant to ask is what happens when your car needs maintenance just from regular wear and tear and it's least

well I think it's like oil changes that sort of thing that you just pay for like you normally

would or do yourself like you normally

I think if it's I

mean

If you're leasing a car, it's only going to be one or two years, probably.

Right.

It shouldn't need a lot of maintenance.

Right.

Most of the, if it's, as the old saying goes, if you bought yourself a lemon, then probably the company's going to cover it.

But don't take, I'm not giving you car advice.

This is, I'm no click or clack.

I'm not planning on leasing any time in the near future.

Best just to drive a horse.

Low maintenance.

Just feed him some oats.

They'll...

Steve in Milwaukee says owning depreciates faster.

Well, that's that's true.

I the truck I have is a 2016 but I bought it in the spring of 2017 had 4,000 miles on it, but I mean basically a new car new truck 4,000 mile, but

I paid a lot less than I would have if I just bought it off the lot brand new because yeah, it does appreciate that.

So those are oftentimes the best deals.

I think now they call them like pre-owned cars, like the salesperson or somebody at the dealership drives it for a few thousand miles and they put it back on the lot.

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Chiming back in says leased car is always under warranty.

Oh, there you go.

Most people don't own their car.

Anyway, the bank does.

That's a good point.

Well said, Kerry.

You know, that's why I'm very grateful that anytime I've needed a vehicle, I shop around and try and find the most functional, cheap piece of crap that I can.

And so I've not had to have the bank on my vehicle so far.

And I know not everybody is in that

position.

Had it both both, you know where the bank basically owns it but this truck I I own it lock stock and barrel paid off this paid off and I got in one of these dodge doesn't do this anymore But when I bought my truck even though it was that 4,000 miles I was able to buy the they call it the lifetime warranty So as long as I own the truck all like the transmission, you know the the engine That sort of it's covered with it.

It's like a hundred and fifty dollar deductible