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Robin Vos Is Still Obsessed With Made-Up DEI Issues (Hour 1)
The Todd Allbaugh Show · Wed Jun 18, 2025
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It is six minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this Wednesday, June 18th, 2025.
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Day!
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Made it halfway through the week.
Glad to have you along.
Little rain outside hit the windows here at the World Headquarters of Civic Media in downtown Madison.
People have their umbrellas up, or as they say in bohemian, bumper shoots.
Do you know that, Zomers?
That is the word.
Hold on, what?
Can you run that by me again?
That is bohemian word for umbrella, bumper shoot.
Bumper shoe.
I don't know why my grandmother was Bohemian and so she knew a few words That's one of the ones that stuck with me.
Anyway, there will the show will be in English today Because we're under ice control now.
No, no be no be no Bohemian spoken here on the furthermore on the show But we are gonna be joined in hour number two at 335 by our friend and colleague Earl Ingram, Jr.
Tomorrow is Juneteenth is one year
ago, the Earl and I were up in Baraboo, Wisconsin on a similar day, actually, a rainy day, celebrating the first annual Juneteenth celebration of Baraboo.
It was a really good time.
Earl and I also afterwards hiked around Devils Lake a little bit.
So we'll check in with Earl Ingram and his remembrances of Juneteenth.
It also was happening in Milwaukee, one of the largest Juneteenth celebrations happening tomorrow, which Earl is going to be a part of.
So we'll check in with him.
Also in hour two, what's worse, people who are critical of others.
or people who are not critical of others.
God bless you, Trigvie.
Because it's inside.
Thank you.
That's our two, but right now we're joined.
You heard him sneeze in by our guests as they are every Wednesday afternoon from our nation's capital outside the Tony suburbs of Arlington, the former Republican like myself and now a senior advisor at the Lincoln Project, Trigvie Olsen, and from beautiful Lake Wissota.
the captain's stewing of the Northwoods and the host of, of, uh, mornings at Pat Crite Low every morning from six until eight.
Pat Crite Low, for those watching on the stream, he has the hat.
He has his captain's hat right there.
I love it.
Which
does not fit over my headset, unfortunately.
Bumber's shoot is a slightly whimsical American term for an umbrella thought to be a playful combination of umbrella and parachute.
Yeah.
So there you go.
It came from I guess it came from a Bohemian.
I searched Bohemia and there was no Bohemia anywhere.
It's it's
my
grandma lied to me.
Well, no, because I think Bohemian has also become kind of a catch all for American mutts.
We are all in the junk drawer of.
of cultures as it were.
So I appreciate that.
Thank you, John.
So you
can get away with that.
Good to see you both here after a week, lots going on nationally, lots going on in the state.
I'd like to start, if we could, and we've been talking about this for the last couple of days, what's going on a block away in the Wisconsin State Capitol as the Joint Committee on Finance, better known as GFC, the Joint Finance Committee, the largest.
It's the Budget Writing Committee, the most powerful committee in the state capital.
They put together the budget every other year.
And then they send it to the full legislature.
If it passes, it goes to the governor for up or down vote.
Important to remember for our discussion that unlike in DC, if there is no budget, the government shuts down.
In Wisconsin, if there is no budget passed or agreed upon by the legislature and the governor, the current budget takes effect.
In other words, the current spending levels just carry on for another two years.
So I want to go to this new news.
being reported right now by the Wisconsin State Journal, great reporter Kimberly Wethall in their online edition at Madison.com this afternoon, just posted here about an hour ago.
It's an update on the story that they ran this morning on the front page.
It starts out, the Republicans in the legislature's budget committee may deal the universities of Wisconsin, better known as the UW system, its biggest budget cut nearly a decade to the tune of $87 million.
And many thanks to Kimberly for the next line there on the front page of today's state journal.
It says the cut was first reported by Civic Media.
on Monday night.
By contrast, the UW System had requested an increase in state aid of $856 million.
The committee had been slated to take up the UW System's budget yesterday, but punted it for unspecified reasons.
I'm going to step away from the story right now.
Maybe some of those unspecified reasons was the post that we did on Monday night that got a lot of people calling their legislators, and they kind of said, well, boys, the jig's up.
And so they took it off the agenda for yesterday.
State Senator Kelder Royce, who was on the program on Monday, talked about this a little bit.
She confirmed to both the state journal and the Associated Press that she had heard rumors of that $87 million number herself.
Yet last night this morning, uh, state or, uh, state assembly speaker, Robin Voss was couching it a little bit in terms of, well, my caucus is in favor of that number, but they wouldn't say what, what a lot more.
Now, uh, the state journal and Kimberly with all a reporting the following quote, assembly speaker, Robin Voss, Republican, a Rochester confirmed today that Republicans were looking at at least a cut of that size because he said the UW system had not done enough.
to ensure conservative students feel like they belong on campus.
Voss also said he believed too much, quote, political correctness, unquote, remained on campus and alluded to the pro-Palestinian protests that had taken place in the last two years.
Going to step away from the story.
Pat Krightlow, former Democratic state senator.
Thoughts?
Thoughts begin with the word Taliban-esque.
because that's exactly where Robin Voss is, and he's comfortable in that role of being the thought police for the University of Wisconsin and for students who attend there.
And his idea is not about stifling anybody's speech, but he can stifle their money.
And if he cuts enough of their money with demands that they adhere to his way of thinking,
Taliban-esque is the word that fits there.
And he goes on to say in this article, you know, it's not about cutting money, it's about getting some kind of reforms to the broken process we currently have.
Part of the system that's broken begins and ends with Robin Voss and all of his ilk in the Wisconsin legislature who don't believe in the Wisconsin idea the way that you were describing it yesterday.
and who would just as soon micromanage the universities the way that they're trying to micromanage local units of government, women's bodies and so on.
Trigby Olson, you and I have traveled around the state here, stopping a lot of our great public universities at UW System.
Pat knows this as well.
We're all three products of UW System schools and colleges.
What about this, what Pat said here?
The quote from Voss in this story today in the state journal says, this morning says, it's not about cutting money.
What it's about is giving some kind of reforms to broken processes that we currently have.
We don't have enough respect for political diversity.
And it goes on from there.
Are we seeing Voss trying to mimic what Trump is doing in DC, which is we're going to make these kind of egregious over-the-top demands, in this case, cutting $87 million from the EW system, current levels, which would almost assuredly close the remaining six two-year colleges and probably shut down at least one four-year school if Todd could get it out.
Is he doing this?
He's saying it's not about money.
Is this a mimic of what Trump's doing in DC?
Could I go a step further and ask Trig Vita also say, does it go as far as what Victor Orban is doing and has done in Hungary?
man.
You're the expert, man.
You've actually fought authoritarianism.
He fought authoritarianism and he won.
First of all, I'm a little perplexed by Robin's quotes.
If you guys know, listeners may not.
I've known Robin since high school, in college.
Robin was the first student regent.
There were three candidates.
me, Robin, and one other guy.
I didn't really care because if I became the student region, it was going to be less time on Water Street, drinking beer and chasing girls.
So we ultimately came to a conclusion, though, it was going to be the UW-Madison kid if Robin and I as the state school kids didn't have one candidate.
Robin Voss
has
Yes.
And
putting out
My question is, if it's this bad, Robin, what in the H double hockey sticks have you been doing since we were in college?
What have you been doing?
And yes, it is sort of Orban-esque.
Quite frankly, it's just abject stupidity in many ways.
And as I said before, the University of Wisconsin River Falls is not a woke den of indoctrination.
I doubt that Robin Voss thinks that whitewater is a woke den of intolerance towards conservatism.
In fact, when we were on the Stevens Point campus, Students for Liberty and about four other conservative groups all had tables up for God's sakes.
Like, man, what are you talking about, Robin?
And where have two people like you and I gone so off in opposite directions about what the school, what the Wisconsin idea and what Wisconsin is about?
Or...
Are you just paying lip service because you want to be and are afraid of what it means if you don't go along with the lie?
What is up?
Pat, sorry, you
cranked me up.
I
want to know what
mean.
I'm very pleased.
But like, what is going on right now?
No, I mean, Pat, you you represented UW institutions when you're in the state Senate.
You're you're you're a graduate as Trigby is of UW Eau Claire.
We all know the value when Trigby and I did the show on Eau Claire and you were there.
I mean,
Again, it's not some walkness on UW Eau
Claire's
campus.
No, it's most certainly not.
It is.
But no different than what Trump is trying to do to Harvard and Columbia.
This is all politics.
It's just pure politics of grievance that their only path to staying in power where they can do things for their wealthy benefactors is to convince enough of the population that.
didn't go to college, that colleges are these ivory towers, these elite institutions of people who don't think like them.
When the folks out there who didn't go to college oftentimes scrimp and save and work hard, you know why?
So that their kid can go to college and get an education or a tech school or a trade school or something that maybe they didn't get the chance to do but if you can get enough other people feeling aggrieved by people with you know different levels of education You can win elections.
We've seen that happen now.
You cannot campaign as overtly on say
People's race, but you can say urban but you can go against people who are have an education Scott Walker's war on teachers This is in some ways a continuation of that if you go after the educated has happened in Hungary and other countries as well You have this so-called populist path to power and then people learn the hard way that these populists They didn't really want to do anything for them Anyway, just witness the big beautiful boondoggle of a bloated budget bill that Donald Trump has right now
I
said this before the show won't go into it in detail when I was still the Legislature working for Dale Schultz in the state Senate behind closed doors and caucus meetings even this is this is 12 10 12 years ago even then There were select members in that caucus that had no time
for anybody from UW.
Oh, that's just a bunch of liberals that I don't want to hear about it.
So that's right.
This has been festering for some time.
When we come back, our further discussion of the W system, where are the Democrats in this?
Where's the leadership?
And is J. Rothman the frog or the scorpion?
We'll explain on the other side.
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Always glad when we could break a little news, which we did a Monday night after our sources confirmed that Republicans were looking to cutting $87 million from the University of Wisconsin system budget, not from the 300 million plus requests from the governor, not from current, but from current spending levels, $87 million cut.
Broke that news, appreciate the state journal putting it in their story today.
And now they're a great reporter, Kimberly Wethel.
Further reporting robin speaker robin voss's comments today this afternoon Saying that confirmed our reporting that yeah, they're looking at that number 87 million Says quote it's not about cutting money.
It's about
getting some kind of reforms and the broken promises that we currently have.
We don't have enough respect for political diversity.
Heaven forbid if you're a student who's Jewish or has a different viewpoint on campus where you feel like you're either targeted or the victim of potential hate.
So we want to ensure that whatever happens on campus, it's a free exchange of ideas that people understand the basis for what the university should be, unquote.
Robin Voss.
It goes on to further attacks on so-called DEI stuff, which the university has already addressed.
Pat Crichtlow, host of, pardon me, Mornings, and Pat Crichtlow, six until eight, Trigby Olsen Senior Advisor at Lincoln Project.
I want to get to this.
Yes, Republicans, in my opinion, have not properly funded education.
Yes, Robin Voss' comments on this are ridiculously bad.
But where are Democrats?
Tony Evers now has the majority of appointees on the Board of Regents.
They're the ones that put Jay Rothman in this position, the president of the system.
They have people who have paid $200,000, who are supposed to be the lobbyists for the system, to the capital, to the legislature.
And they thought by being the parable of the frog and the scorpion, where the frog gives the scorpion a ride across the river and the scorpion stings him in the middle and the frog says, why?
And the scorpion says, because it's my nature.
Did Jay Rothman, is he the frog here?
Do you think, well, by being a more amiable frog to cut some of the DEI stuff, that somehow Robin Voss will be nice to me?
Pat Critewell, you've worked in the building.
These current iteration of Margaret Republican leadership, like Robin Voss, they're political scorpions.
They're never going to change.
No, they're never going to change.
Again, this is power.
This was their path to power.
And they already know.
Here's something they already know, even though they don't want to admit it.
If there is a fair
debate, a clash of ideas, if you will, on campuses.
Most progressives, liberals, whatever you want to call them.
feel pretty confident about their chances.
You don't have to rig the game, and that includes anybody who has just literally arrived on campus, you know, fallen off the turnip truck from, you know, Reedsville in Manitowoc County, where my wife attended UW O'Clair.
They come off the farm, they come out of our small towns, they come from wherever, they come to get an education, they come to make them, you know, improve their lives, and they come to debate ideas.
And
the number that come out of there saying, gosh, you know what we ought to do?
We ought to shrink government to the size where we can drown at the bathtub and hope that benevolent billionaires will fund our education and our health care.
That number ain't zero, but it's awfully close.
So, Speaker Voss, let's just have that exchange of ideas rather than you putting your thumb on the scales.
Okay, I'm fine with that.
I don't disagree with you.
I want you to quit your quicker comment and then trig me.
But what about
What about Tony Evers, who I think is doing a fine job, but I just don't understand Pat.
Why?
What do you want?
What do you want?
What can
you do at this point?
Is he going to stand on the floor?
Why wasn't he going around J Rothman and select regions around this state going to cities where these these institutions are and say, this is what this means to us.
Help us lobby.
Why weren't they out there promoting
this?
Well, because they know that the lobbying, frankly, they know who Rob and Boston, the Republicans are.
So I don't think I don't mean
to sound cynical.
I don't mean to sound cynical about this, but I think they're not the least bit surprised.
And instead of working on how do we stop this thing that we can't stop?
I think what they're working on now is how do we convey to people next year?
You see what these guys did?
You shouldn't have trusted them.
Trigly.
First of all,
If I were on the Democratic side, I would get a bunch of these trucks.
Lean up a little closer to Mike.
I would get, I would get a bunch of trucks with speakers and that can show ads.
And I would literally follow people like Robin Voss around.
I'd have them all over the state literally playing.
We don't need no education.
Literally, literally, that would be step one.
Step two would be, they got to take this fight straight to people.
Like I would be holding town halls in every single university community across the state, making the point and asking people from the university to come and talk about what they're doing as it relates to the so-called free speech on campus, but also reminding people exactly who comes from those institutions like UW River Falls, UW Stevens Point, UW Superior and the rest of them.
The third thing that I'm thinking is, like people in Wisconsin need to wake up, right?
The alternative to Jay Rothman was Jim Schmidt, who's the chancellor at Eau Claire,
who actually found me the kid that I just
Yeah, your loss, Virginia's gain.
In fact, I was, Todd knows this, and Pat might too, because they read my sub-stack, and if you read my sub-stack, you'd know this.
I've been out college hunting lately, not for myself, because I wasn't very good when I was in college, because I was following in the footsteps
of
Pat, you know, and so, but my daughter's gonna go look at James Madison, who's the new president of that university, and they are giddy that they took him.
Why?
Because...
I can't speak for Jim, but I would suspect the fact that there seems to be a lack of commitment versus the commitment that you see in the university from Virginia to public education.
Wisconsin's going to be getting its lunch packed.
Yes, there
You can always know.
There's no Bologna from six until eight.
It is good, solid meat, newsy meat, along with some fun packed, quite low mornings every morning from six until nine.
We appreciate you, my friend.
Have
a great
day.
Triggy and I back with your phone calls on the other side.
855-752-4842 is all ball.
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It is now 30.
five of this past the hour of two o'clock on Wednesday, June 18th, 2025.
School may be out for the summer, and if it's up to speaker Robin Voss for some UW campuses across the state, it may be out forever.
As Joe Biden said, I'm not joking around here.
Being completely serious for a second, these cuts that the Republicans and the legislature are proposing, 87 million
to the University of Wisconsin system, which we first reported on Monday night.
Many thanks to the pardon me, the Wisconsin State Journal for giving us credit for that in their front page story today in the Wisconsin State Journal.
Great article there by Kimberly Wethel.
And she picks up on our reporting and now saying today that Speaker Robin Voss confirms that number that we first reported on Monday, 87 million.
wants to cut, says he claims it's not about cutting money, but rather the fact that he's salty, my words, that UW System still hasn't done enough to cut diversity, equity, and inclusion, and is not making conservative students feel comfortable, which Trigby Olson, Senior Advisor at Lincoln Project, a proud graduate of the University of Wisconsin, Eau Claire, and myself are talking about now, Trigby, another story this time in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel,
to give you one more piece of flavor here for the day, scrolling down to Republican State Senator Steve Noss of Whitewater, who has said he is likely to vote against the budget plan.
Get this, wants more than $87 million cut from the system's funding.
Quote, frankly, Senator Noss believes the cut to the W system should be much higher than $87 million.
But the UW system piece is not a sole budget benchmark.
Unquote that according to a spokesperson, Mike Mickelson, a real piece of work that guy is.
He fancies himself.
He's one of those staffers.
You know, the type I'm talking about.
They like to think that they're the senator.
They're the kind of staffer that the late great Mike Ellis detested.
But Mickelson sticks around because he does most of the work.
And we had States
Kelly.
We had States Senator Kelly Royce here on Monday.
We had State Representative Jody Emerson, the ranking Democratic member on the College's University Committee of the Assembly here yesterday, and they confirmed.
that should this 87 million get taken up and passed by joint finance and then can be approved by the entire legislature, that it would be devastating, most likely meaning that the six remaining two-year colleges in the UW system gone, at least one four-year campus gone, and many other major things gutted within the UW system.
And some Democrats are telling me privately that they would encourage Governor Tony Evers to veto the entire budget
because that would essentially be an $87 million increase over what Republicans are doing for UW System.
Let's go to the phone lines, 855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.
Let's go to Jim, listening in Brookfield at WAUK.
Jim, thanks for calling.
What have you got?
I think it's a very sad thing when there's our elected officials target and really go against higher education.
I mean, you can't say enough for what the UW system does, not only for the state, but for the country, for the world, you know, for research and education.
But the main point I would like to say is I'd like to remind everybody how important next year's elections are statewide assembly elections because it would be the most
A wonderful thing for this state of Wisconsin, if the Democrats are able to take control of the assembly after over 15 years of jury-mandered districts, and Robin Voss is delegated to a minority individual and not have these controls, because I'll tell you gentlemen, the system is not set up for one petty, salty, vindictive individual to have control this long.
He's even, you know,
uh, veto things regarding it, things that some of his own caucus would have, um, supported, um, such as, you know, giving healthcare to the pregnant moms after two months, some of his own caucus would have supported that.
And hence it'd be a minority because the Democrats would, but one man's vindictiveness and penniness rules, you know, knocks that out.
The system's not set up for that.
So I'm just encouraging and reminding everybody next year, 2026, huge year for the state of Wisconsin.
Get out, vote in your assembly race.
And hopefully, hopefully we can flip that.
So Mr. Ross is no longer this majority leader holding the strings like in the Godfather movies, you know, for the, for the detriment and the worst of the state of Wisconsin.
So keep it in mind and remember next year, get out and vote.
Thanks, Jim.
Really appreciate the call.
855-752-4842.
Talking about this news that we helped break on Monday night, and it's been confirmed now by Speaker Robin Voss today that Republicans want to cut at least 87, at least 87 million for the University of Wisconsin system budget.
And that Democrats say if that gets passed, some of them at least are saying that they would encourage Tony Ivers to veto the entire budget.
Let's go to Jack, listening in Merrimack.
Jack, thanks for calling.
I would say...
Thanks for taking my call.
I have a bit of experience in education.
I taught for 40 plus years, public, private, and parochial schools at all levels from sixth grade to university.
So I have a little background in watching this happen.
First thing I'm going to say is, yeah, I'm an old guy.
When I went to college, I recall
that my tuition was $312.
My son's tuition annually was $10,000, and then I'm going to say that even with inflation over that long a period of time, that's an essentially caused by the defunding of the UW system.
And I'm going to tell you, it's not
Democrats that have been doing that.
It's been Republicans and it's been over, you know, for years.
They're just trying to put as the old song goes, one more brick on the wall between people and getting a decent education.
Second thing I'm going to say is that while it's not a sure thing, if you have an advanced education, one of the things that your instructors, the good ones,
try to instill in you is critical thinking.
And that allows you to look at the lies and the misinformation and also the misdirection that's going on in this country and say, hey, that's not what the real point is.
The real point is they're trying to turn this thing into a dictatorship and a fascist one that simply gives our money away.
to the rich corporations and the billionaires
I need, you know, need to have a bit of an education.
I understand what this is, you know, that this is what's happening.
Yeah.
Jack, really appreciate the call.
Thank you so very much.
Trigby, to Jack's point there, I know your daughters get ready to go off to college here.
When you and I went to school, I mean, you can speak for yourself, but you know, having the Central American Scholarship Program at the two-year college at Richland Center and bringing in some people that didn't look like me, didn't talk like me, had different experiences, and then
going to Plattville, it may be a better person to look at myself, to challenge myself.
I would have to think now as a dad sending your daughter off to college for the first time, as a parent, you would want that any parent.
I don't think any, I don't know any, at least any parents like, yeah, let's send my kid off to just a monolith and a place where everybody thinks the same.
Oh,
believe
Why
just interject quickly.
Outrageous.
A mutual friend of ours pointed out that the business community in this state, some of whom belong to WMC, a more conservative organization, they have been outspoken.
And the business community in this state has said, we want investment in the UW system.
So good on those people.
I just think it needs
Well, you know, who else has been outspoken is Dave Mahoney and your old boss, Dale Schultz with United Wisconsin.
It's one of their core foundational platforms because they see what's going on, right?
Like the center of the state understands what's happening.
Eight five, five, seven, five, two.
And I
go
Superior
be.
I'm telling you right now all those communities talking to the chamber having having had a boss that sat and chaired this committee the colleges university colleges committee.
I'll tell you right now that if these Republicans current Republican cuts of 87 million plus go through.
If it were to take effect, superior end or parkside most likely gone.
Gone.
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2 marked in prayer to sack.
Mark, thanks for calling.
Let's see.
Well, this might be a stretch, but I'd posit that DEI is actually a conservative value because it goes right in line with our Declaration of Independence, all men are in created equal and entitled to equality under the law.
I mean, that Robin Voss, I mean, there's times I'd like to crown him like for serious, was crowned at Game of Thrones, and it is just beyond me that they're saying this kind of nonsense.
In the United States, there's some liberalism that actually should be of a conservative value.
I mean, at the founding of our country, there's debates among some that women should have actually had the both because Abigail Adams was advocating for that with her husband, John, who did not want to give that to women.
James Madison, Federalist 42, was calling slavery a barbarous path to a practice that he envisioned actually would have been gone in 20 years.
Well, that's a liberal value there.
But actually, there's liberal values that are innately conservative values in this country.
Maybe I'm misstating it.
I'm trying to make it correct if I'm wrong.
equality under the line of diversity equity and inclusion includes those little conservatives that can't understand it can't take the uh... the uh... diversity on on the campus and let's remember the anti-semitism that they're complaining about in my own lifetime i remember people talking about the jews not being welcome and apparently now because israel is they seem to separate israel is being actually a jewish state you know they call that anti-semitism to criticize israeli policy
There's half the population of Israel that criticizes their foreign policy toward the
Palestinians.
Thank you very much, Mark.
I appreciate it.
Just a minute left here, Trig, before the break.
But any comment?
Well, I mean, at the end of the day, the single best ground politically to fight this on is they want the fight to be about culture, but the fight really needs to be about economics.
chaos and pivot that into the culture and what complete Balderdash ultimately this is.
And I think, you know,
Democrats need to get out and fight on this.
This is a fight that they want to have, but they have to frame it not from their political extreme, but from the center.
Agreed.
Thank you, Trig V. Stay tuned for more Trig V after this.
Going to talk about some federal issues as well.
Also, what's going on in Minnesota.
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Critical we'll discuss at the bottom of the next hour Earl Ingram, Jr.
Will be along and we will discuss
one year since he and I were up at Baraboo together to celebrate the first annual Juneteenth celebration, a huge celebration happening tomorrow for Juneteenth in Milwaukee and Earl will help us preview that.
Right now joined as we always are on Wednesday by the senior advisor of the Lincoln Project, Trig V. Olson via StreamYard.
Trig, we just want to finish up what we're talking about the Republicans and the legislature looking at cutting the UW system budget by $87 million.
By the way, a big shout out to, you know her, my younger sister, Heather, lover to death.
And she's also our unofficial production assistant here at the show.
She does great work.
We don't pay her a dime.
And she, she actually legitimately helped me break this story on Monday night, um, using some of her sources and, and, and mine.
We put this together and, uh, so a big shout out to her.
But she says, I'll watch it on Facebook along with Trigby's comment about learning to think.
She says, one of my favorite college professors, Murray Har, his parents were Holocaust survivors.
He challenged our thing.
daily.
We'd give an answer and he'd ask us why.
He forced us to dig deeper and think deeper and he was a religion professor at a private Lutheran college out there at Augustana in South Dakota.
I think that's just a great example of the best of what higher education should be, Trevi.
He was chair of the Democrat Party in the third district, right?
Like I was working for Gunderson at the time
And he was fantastic.
He challenged me.
He he really cared about me learning to think.
And I saw more years later when I was asked to come and speak at the at the University of Wisconsin campus, River Falls, Eau Claire.
And he actually came and he was so excited about what I had done with my life.
And he he had played a role because he challenged me and forced me to think.
Yeah.
That's what that's what education is supposed to be about.
But the truth of the matter is, you know, people on the extremes and I'm finding this out now that I'm on Substack Todd, people on both extremes, they don't want to be challenged in the least.
And
Only about four minutes left.
I want to get your thoughts, Trig V. We covered this on Monday a little bit on the show, the horrific assassination in Minnesota over the weekend of the former assembly, what I call the house speaker over there in Minnesota and her husband and the shooting of another state senator and his wife there in Minnesota.
That's a Republican.
You know, there
When Donald Trump was shot, who said things that they shouldn't have said, I know that that's the case, but that was not United States senators on the left.
In fact, they all, to the best of my knowledge, came out and condemned it.
And for some of these people who are in the Senate, like Mike Lee, to be making fun of...
of something like this is it's wrong.
If it's Donald Trump, it's wrong.
If it's if it's somebody on the left, we don't solve our differences that way.
We just don't 100 percent agree.
And I look, I called out our friend Bill McCosh and a Monday as well in this program because he he retweeted information on this that I know he knows to be untrue that that somehow that this assassin alleged to use the word alleged assassin in Minnesota was a Democrat.
And we play the audio.
from the Minnesota Tribune, a leader tribune, I believe it is, and WCCO, which interviewed the guy's roommate and closest friend and said, no, we're both Trump people, we're both Republican people.
And I said, I said, look, I'm not saying that all MAGA Republican people are bad people or anything like that, but from the other side, from conservatives, from MAGA people to somehow
perpetuate these lies that this guy was a Democrat for political gain is just sick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And both sides need to.
to take a long, hard look at it.
I literally, I mean, you saw the piece.
I literally, sub-stack has been an awakening to me because I hate, sounds strange for somebody who's on your radio show once a week, but I don't count this.
I really have tried to stay out of the public eye, but I had to get the sub-stack thing, right?
So I got attacked by the AOC left for making the point that John Kennedy's, I Have a Dream Speech and Ronald Reagan, Shining City on a Hill, were both part of what used to make America
Great.
And I just got eviscerated from the left that I would say anything about Ronald Reagan and a shining city on a hill, which of course, then people, the person that used to be on the right with me was thinking to myself, yep, this is why it was so easy for Mitch McConnell world to beat these guys because we'd come out and say, see, they don't like America.
They hate America.
They don't think it's a shining city on a hill.
And they don't even believe in Kennedys.
I have a dream, uh, Kennedys.
I, you know, ask not what you can do for your country.
So,
no, uh, it's, uh, we don't have time to get into it, but, uh, uh,
Hey, Todd,
I
How many?
system
Very interesting.
Look at that.
the old AI to get things done.
And that's the real Trigby.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Stay tuned.
We'll finish up this topic and do a little once worse, not this or that.
Don't go anywhere.
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