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Lighting It Up with Lisa Hale and Pete Schwaba (Hour 2)
The Todd Allbaugh Show · Fri Jun 13, 2025
On location, it's the Todd Alba Show.
And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd
Alba.
The Civic Media Rated Network and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app.
Good afternoon, everybody.
I'm Todd Albault, one of our fantastic engineer producer, Mr. Aaron Zommers on the board.
It's six minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this TGIF.
Friday, the thirteenth edition, twenty twenty five.
It is a great day to be a Wisconsinite.
Welcome, everybody.
We are here live on location for those watching on the stream, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Twix, X, whatever you want to call it.
We are here at the beautiful studios in downtown Green Bay of WGBW ninety seven nine FM and fifteen ninety a.m.
We've got Conrad on the board up here.
Conrad, thanks for coming in early.
You're doing Schwab's show night like tonight.
We've got you here.
Thank you very much.
Yeah.
course.
He is a little salty because I did not bring him any Detroit pizza.
But you guys were making pizza with Schwabba last night.
Yes.
Actually this
morning.
This morning too.
And here beside me we have the great morning team locally on WGBW and WISS in Oshkosh.
Mino and the mayor John Mino, Jim Schmidt.
How are you guys?
We don't go hungry here.
We
don't, man.
Our
guests, yeah, we invite guests, and it's usually someone from the food industry, culinary, either chef or some of the ones who are restaurant or food service, and that's part of their...
a requirement to come in here right so it and bring plenty not just enough
so I know you're gonna start complaining right away don't have pizza I think already we've established that we uh if uh matters do we look like we go
hungry
right we
put the we put the smack down okay yes
and by the way I was saying one thing you notice you whenever we have somebody here from civic media that doesn't work here at the station right you notice they all got a t-shirt order and we don't we don't have one we don't have
we don't have we don't have we don't have they
wouldn't ask for guests
and
that's for people from
Madison
It's a GBW t-shirt.
Yeah, cheese and beer.
Yeah Do we have no?
Yeah, look at us.
Wow,
they give you free parking because we pay for our parking.
No, no You guys know about my parking in Green Bay.
Do you know I did the app and I'm booked until six, okay?
Oh No, I know nine bucks is better than 25 or the 75 I had to pay with fine
downtown Green
Bay.
But
you know
what, y'all can't tell you something on who to blame?
Who?
The former
mayor.
No, no, no, no.
I just want to say, I was just going to say that before he rudely interrupted.
I knew he was going to say that.
Oh, and I was mayor there $8.
Well,
and more lead time
and
more like.
And
we used to have a beautiful mall across the street that was demolished.
It was a dog.
It was a dog.
And part of it was a dog.
And that man torched down.
$4 million.
I used to say that mall was worth $4 million.
We torched on, built a corporate office, 700 jobs, and $40 million
tax base.
Now it's on Green Bay, so what it used to be.
But it's still a beautiful place.
Yes, it's a beautiful, beautiful place.
City deck.
We're right here on the water.
We are.
It's beautiful.
See, this is why people tune in every morning between six and nine up here, because it's just the energy, the fun, the excitement, the love, the
love.
love
the
love and food we've been okay we're an event one night it was a very classy event over at the Hotel Northland and a guy comes up to me and goes hey could you and Jim sign a picture autographed picture for me and I'm like well sure okay
you know
okay you know it was a picture of what the two guys in the balcony from the Muppets
It
was.
True story.
I love it.
That's fantastic.
All right, we're going to talk with Jim and John just a couple of minutes here.
But first, Mr. Zawariz is nine minutes past the hour of two o'clock.
And get ready, folks.
It's a very special edition.
The final one for this time around of Civic Media's Scotty Summer Text to Win Trivia Extravaganza.
Here we
go.
We're Text to Win Contest here at Civic.
It's the final day.
Now I know you guys have been playing this on your morning show here in Green Bay and in Oshkosh.
now they've been we've done this a few times across civic media it's a great contest
great prizes
right the most important thing is people could win either Brewer tickets or a hundred bucks in the hours we do it and everybody that enters in is eligible to win one of two grand prizes either get away to the Baraboo Dells area or up here closer to you guys in Dora County and we're giving them a gas card so that's the big advantage number one
yeah the only thing we have a disclaimer in regards to somebody wins the
the Baraboo area where we went.
What was the name of the place we went?
Where we're going to stay for the column?
It was our Christmas party.
Oh yeah, it's Colorado.
No,
no, no.
You
gotta
be careful,
okay,
you gotta be careful going there from Green Bay area or coming
back
Monticello, Monticello, yeah, they'll get
six minutes two speeding tickets
Johnny thought the second time we got pulled over.
It's like
Yeah, you're my kind of guys.
All right.
So here's the big deal guys I got my brewers hat on Here John's got his brewers Jersey on right now because this is actually this is legit you guys This is special.
So all these tickets.
So today the hourly prize We're gonna give you the word in a second and the the it's a pair of tickets Brewer tickets, but this one folks is really cool because this is for a specific game So please if you're gonna enter make sure you can go on Sunday
August 24th, the first pitch at one 10 in the afternoon.
This is the game where the Brewers are going to honor Bob Euker with a celebration of life.
That's great.
These things are going to be hot.
They're going to be scalped.
Everybody's going to want to go.
You're going to win two tickets if you were chosen at random from this hour.
And you're not even competing against a popular show like mine on the mayor.
You're just up against this little dog and pony show this hour.
Your chances are
good.
It's been reinforced to
us that we have.
never won the contest, right, Jim?
Yeah, really overall.
But but we today, though, we won because the game we won the tickets.
Oh, really?
Johnny and I. Yeah.
Good job, guys.
So this is for the August 24th Bob Euker celebration of life game.
The word this hour is Bob.
The word is Bob B. O. B. As in Bob Euker.
Text the word Bob B. O. B. B. Bobby.
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No, because if you don't do it the right way, Kazama's and I, we don't pick it.
It's the computer.
And so we don't spell it correctly.
Hey, that's Madison for you.
We believe it on Todd.
We
got Todd.
We got Todd.
Yeah, the wonderful Todd Michaels up here.
He's fantastic.
Absolutely.
He was our savior yesterday, quite frankly.
So a text award, Bob, B-O-B right now to the Civic Media app.
If you don't have it, go to your app store at your Apple or Android device.
Download it.
It takes less than a minute.
It's free.
It's what CBS.
is Gail King calls a deal.
The Civic Media app opened it up.
The first 11 stations are where you'll find us every day and you can click on that, open whichever one is closest to you.
Lower right hand corner, it says text, T-E-X-T.
Click on that and then text the word Bob, B-O-B, Bob right now and someone at the end of this hour is going to win those tickets to the special Celebration of Life for Bob Euker on August 24th.
You know what I really like with in commemorating him?
They're going back to when he used to wear the plaid jackets on Johnny Carson.
Right.
I
love that.
It really is fantastic.
Even the patch and
everything brings back that.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
That's an afternoon game, too.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
It's like, yeah.
Families
could go.
Yeah, it's great.
Anybody could go.
I love those
games.
It's really great what they're doing all year down there in Milwaukee at Amphib field.
I've been to a couple of games so far this year.
And it really is an entire season dedicated to Euker.
And you guys brought it up.
I mean, you brought it up, John.
I mean,
Bob Euker was more than just an announcer.
I truly think he was one of the true ambassadors, kind of like Bart Starr, an ambassador for the state of Wisconsin.
Not even a
question, but I mean the Brewers didn't win a lot.
I'm gonna show you a picture here just to show you how big of a bop this is me with this.
That's fantastic.
Euker in a very plage.
Very much me wearing my plaid jacket in
high school.
Oh, yeah,
you were back in the day.
I'm not going to lie.
Thank you.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm mad enough to admit it.
I appreciate that.
Uh, text word, Bob, B O B right now to the Civic Media app.
Brewer is a big part of our state of Wisconsin.
But again,
you know what?
Even back in those days when the Brewers were really bad.
Okay.
You would still listen to a Brewer's game to listen to Bob Yooker.
100%.
Yeah.
Sometimes that was one of my first jobs radio in 1987 because you guys remember you actually for folks that don't know we didn't have computers back then you actually had to truly engineer the game and turned down the feed from TMJ in Milwaukee to play the local spots on a basically eight track cart and then turn it back up and back in those days as you said usually the brewers were at the worst that's what you was at his
best absolutely because you know what it wasn't the game what you okay they're down six to nothing here heading into the seventh inning
And it's like he
would come out with his stories then
and what?
Successfully a lot of successes.
He's funny and a good announcer, but he transcend everybody.
People like them young people like them college kids like them.
I mean, he was just which is the reason he has said some stain power.
I mean, just everyone liked him.
Yeah.
I was going to school in Arizona Arizona state and the Brewers were in their old Sun City.
Yeah.
Remember
that for spring training in the timing goes.
Wow, fall ball hit behind the grandstand here, and the gentleman is on his way to get that one.
And the couple is saying, hey, the gentleman is almost to the ball.
No, they're absolutely fantastic calls.
Guys, we have a couple of minutes left here before the first break.
Gonna come back and talk more with my own mayor here.
But we had you guys on about a year ago when we were up here, but maybe give us a minute each of you kind of on your biography, how you got into this and how the show started.
I was mayor here for sometimes 16 years and I got a call from Civic Media and they're like,
We're thinking of opening up the station in Green Bay.
This beautiful studio, by the way, isn't it?
Every person in the media, who's been in the media all the way through here, that walks through
here and says,
holy cow.
It's unbelievable what they built here.
And he said, well, we're looking for someone to do some media stuff in the morning.
I'm like, OK, well, fine.
Let me talk to some people and also people who do it.
He was like, I'd like to talk to you about it.
So I went down.
It was actually Sage's birthday.
It was 45 that day.
Oh, nice.
Yep.
Went down there.
met with them and I was interested and I thought, well, I can't do this.
So I called Johnny and said, hey, look, man, there's an opportunity, Green Bay, are you interested?
And we got together and talked a little bit, talked to, uh, Kroot was there.
Uh, and I don't know, it's been great.
And I was, I remember how nervous I was the first day.
Johnny was sitting here.
I was sitting, I'm sitting by the window.
He had a pile of notes like this.
I had so many notes.
I had flow charts where it was going to go up this didn't go right.
Arrow pointing at this.
And the guy's like, okay, you know, 15 seconds, John's looking out the window.
I'm like, I have all these notes in front of me.
And so anyway, he's, he's, well, he's a natural and I'm, but you don't want to overprepare the radio.
No, no, you don't.
But John,
you've been on the air for years.
40.
Yeah,
40.
I wound up in this part of the stage.
Well, in my mind.
But it's one of those things where, you know, radio, I did TV for a lot of years.
And the thing I always, when people would always ask, what's the difference between doing sports in rate and TV like I did versus doing radio?
I said, in TV, I said, you put in four hours of prep work for three minutes on the air.
In radio, you put in four minutes of prep work for three hours on the
air.
If that that is far
off.
But I think that's a really good point because speaking of Bob Euker, Lane Grindel, one of his former partners, Nostal, the voices of.
of the Brewers in a memoriam article I read.
He said, you know, early on, kind of like you were saying, I came to all this stuff and Euker told me, and Euk said, the game's out there, kid.
Don't be looking down at the notes.
The game is in front of you.
It's the person in the stands.
It's the bat boy.
The game's out there.
Exactly.
And one of the great keys.
Because that
way you're talking to an individual out there listening.
100%.
Welcome back into Talk More at Mino and the mayor.
We're live on location at WGBW in downtown Green Bay.
The word is Bob.
B-O-B.
Text the word Bob right now on the Civic Media app and you can be going to that special Brewer's Game to honor Duke's celebration of life in August.
Don't go anywhere.
Back after this live from Green Bay on the Civic
media pretty
nowhere.
Don't worry, nobody's listening anyway.
Tell all the people across the USA
I love my Green Bay Packers
is now 22 past the hour of two o'clock on this T G I F. It's Friday the thirteenth and yes, we are in the hometown of Green Bay Packers Lambo Field just up the road right now.
We're at downtown Green Bay W G B W studios 97.9 FM.
We're happy to be here.
Of course, we have with this in studio.
Actually, it's their studio.
Mino and the mayor.
The great morning team here.
You can listen every morning six until nine locally over the air W G B W and
W. I. S. S. in Oshkosh.
But here's the amazing thing, guys.
This is one of the reasons I wanted one number one.
I think you're great.
But number two, when now at the Civic Media app, if people aren't in the Green Bay or Oshkosh area, they just download the Civic Media app, dial up WGVW or ISS, and they can listen to you at any time.
Yeah,
we get a
lot of people
from really outlying areas now.
I mean, we have some regulars that are down there.
You know, they know it's maybe from being up here and they're, uh, yeah, we, it's amazing
how many Vegas, one of our good listeners.
And the regulars, it's not like, oh,
I didn't hear, I heard you guys.
It's, um, you know, they listen for, you know, on their morning walks, a lot of them are, uh, the way to work.
So that's pretty cool that it.
you're right.
We're here in Green Bay, but it's really nice to get emails and texts from people all over.
It really is.
Before we go any further, don't forget we're right in the middle of the smack smack app in the middle of the Scotty summer text to win contest.
The final one for the summer here, at least of this period up for grabs this hour at the top of the hour at three o'clock.
We're going to give away two tickets to the Milwaukee Brewers.
This one for a very special game at Ampham Field on
Sunday, August 24th, 1 10 in the afternoon, the first pitch.
It is the Bob Euker celebration of life game.
So these are really cool special tickets.
Text the word Bob B O B right now to the aforementioned civic media app guys to your point.
I love listening to it.
Yes, of course you talk about stuff in Green Bay, but you guys have local musicians.
You guys have people come in that are of interest whether you live in Green Bay or Oshkosh or not.
Well, thanks.
That's our favorite segment.
The music segments.
Well, there's
talent in Green Bay.
We are known for sports, right?
Packers and we've got some unbelievable high school teams here, too, but.
There's just some great music in this community.
The arts are good, the visual.
And so we showcase them every Friday, sometimes more often than that.
But Friday, we always dedicate the last hour of our show to featuring someone from the arts.
And we get great comments on that.
But I just want to say, people in Green Bay, right, they're interesting.
They're from Green Bay.
What they've done, you can do other places.
You know what I mean?
Like you get some of these community people that we have on here.
They lead organizations in the homeless and Alzheimer's and you can take that to Tulsa, anywhere you want.
And so I think, thanks for saying that, but we really think we have interesting guests.
You really
and that's I don't know if people outside of the Green Bay area realize that you know We're not just focused on the packers We really want to focus on one of the things that and Jim brings up a great point here It has brought a great point about he's always concerned about the brain drain You know these kids are how I'm gonna leave little Green Bay and go away to wherever whatever but ironically there's Different surveys or whatever coming out that we see where the opposite is happening as well
people who have already established yourselves in other area, look at crime rates and cost of money.
I mean, the cost of the value of your money, your money goes pretty far here.
They
just said that in the paper this week about how a number of hours work to get a home, it's cheaper here, you know?
Because we pay pretty well and yet real estate is still affordable, even though real estate's
crazy.
Wasn't Green Bay just one of the magazines or surveys the most affordable or top place to live?
That's exactly what he's talking
about.
And that's US News and World Report.
online thing.
I mean, that's pretty
critical.
It's legit.
It's legit.
So it really is.
Yeah, we're very proud of that.
And to your point, I mean, look, I love the Packers as much as anybody else, but my dad and stepmom live in Seanal a half hour from here.
So I spent a lot of time in Green Bay over the years.
Most of your leadership, Jim, I think, you know, the Green Bay has changed, of course.
There's others involved.
And downtown is much more vibrant than it used to be.
But you also have the Great Performance Center here, the University of Wisconsin Green Bay, which is a world-class university, in my opinion.
You've got the Botanical Gardens, which brings people from all over.
You have a zoo here, you have Bay Park.
I do want to say, and when we do some recruiting, especially with health care, this is a big, we're pretty well known for health care.
I mean, obviously cheese across the street
and
papers has always been staples for us.
Take nothing for granted, but we're very fortunate to have those two industries here.
But when you look at health care, that recruitment of the doctors and both male and female, the fact that they can be in the OR and then be on, be fishing in 25 minutes, 30, maybe 30.
that that really you would believe how many doctors are are into this or the health care profession are into
that what we have here in Green Bay.
So yeah, it's an easy place to sell.
They just got to get here.
But as it really said, I had a doctor moving up here or show him some places and he says, I can't believe this.
I can be out in the country.
I'm in the I'm in the country.
There's there's deer.
There's deer out there.
There's deer here.
We're in the country and I can be at work within 12 minutes.
He said in Chicago, there were times he would have to take his bike and just weep through traffic to try to get there within like half an hour or something like that.
And he was just X number of blocks away.
And he
He's like, oh my lord, this is incredible.
So those are the kind of things I think over the years, Green Bay has really, and I gotta tell you one thing though too, you mentioned Shanno, those kinds of communities are really growing.
Because they became a little bit more of the, they used to come with the bedroom
communities or
whatever, and people come to Shanno and it's like, look at this lake.
Look
at these
things.
Highway 29 is a big difference.
Yeah, the four lane, huge
difference.
We have so many more venues now for the art for the artist.
You know, I mean, you have Lambeau Field, which you can get a huge concert.
But you look at just the Meyer Theater 1000, Meyer 2000, the Weidner 2000, and you know, Appleton is 30 minutes from here, you know, and Oshkosh has a lot of things going on.
So this whole 41 corridor, we're going to call it Northeast Wisconsin,
very attractive, very attractive.
I mean, Weidner brings in the same the same off Broadway shows touring in Madison or Milwaukee.
I mean, in here and then you know, you're an hour.
and you're in Dork County and and then you got all that going on.
Not only
that, but you know we're also an apt in Oshkosh with the state with W I assessment.
We have one of her guys, Pat Tracy from Oshkosh and the things they've got going on in that city.
It's.
I mean, they do a volleyball tournament every year that brings in, like, half a million people.
That's crazy.
You know what I mean?
In Oshkosh, Wisconsin.
And I think because of the size of our community, but we've got a lot of confidence now after pulling off the draft
successfully.
And we pull up, you know, 10 games a year for the Packers and...
I just think this is a place that, you know, I want to stick around.
Jim goes to volleyball tournament every year.
He's a big fan of the Brazilian women's
team.
Come on back.
More on the mayor on the other side is the all balls show live from Green Bay across Wisconsin on the Civic Media Ready Network.
Text Bob B.O.B.
right now to the app.
We're 35 minutes now past the hour of two o'clock on a T G I F Friday the thirteenth.
We are live from W G B W headquarters in downtown Green Bay, Wisconsin.
The puck of Green Bay.
We are here with the great morning team locally, not just in Green Bay, but W I S S in Oshkosh.
Mino and the mayor, better known as John Mino and Jim Schmidt here at their great studios.
That music that music you just heard that Zommer's dialed us in with a little violent fems.
and you would say, well, what connections do I have to the brewers?
Well, let me tell you right now, and apparently I'm going to educate Mino right now.
I have my hot little hands, a DVD of the great movie, Just a Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.
Of course, I'm...
done by our friend, they become friends, Sean Hannish and Kelly Call with the director and the co-producers respectively.
And it's the story, guys, of the 82 run of the Milwaukee Brewers.
I've never seen that before.
When did that come out?
the movie came out last fall, and the DVD came out over the winter, and if you guys haven't seen it, and a little plug here for our friends that just have been outside, not just the DVD, it's streaming right now for free on Roku.
So go to Roku and you can stream it for free.
Got it, John?
And also on Apple TV.
I'm downloading it and uploading it right now.
Sure
he is.
On my phone.
On his phone.
Yeah.
No, it's so well done
because there's no like
voice of God, there's no.
like, you know, uh, back in the day or whatever.
It's just like Bud ceiling and Robin yout and, and, uh, uh,
all the guys, my co-cooper Pete Funkovich, Paul Moller, Gorman Thomas, Jim Gattner, Jim Slate, and who's has Charlie Moore been Ogilvy.
Wow.
Raleigh fingers.
It
looks great.
It's one of the, I'm not just saying this because I got to know the guys that did it.
It truly is one of the best sports films I've ever seen.
And as they say, even for people that don't like sports,
It's really about a love story between a team and a city.
Because back in those days, as you guys will remember, speaking of cities that went through a lot, Milwaukee was reliant on slits brewing.
And perhaps there were some of these people, and they lost
a lot of jobs.
Jim's family did everything possible to keep them in business.
And two rivers
But I mean the team was looking for the city was looking for heroes and the team needed somebody to do to prop them up And it's just a great story.
But anyway,
okay, just very typical radio guy
to try to rob from other people.
Can you get them on our show?
That's right.
We'd love to have those people that put this together on our show.
And
sometimes they watch Kelly and Sean, if you're watching, we'll set you up with mine on the mayor.
I'm
sure
they would love to come on.
So they've been really great partners in this.
It's just a great to get this story out.
Here is for all you listening right now.
Here's the connection.
If you would like to go to a Milwaukee Brewer's game for free, not just any game, but it's a game on August 24th, one 10 in the afternoon on a.
Sunday is the first pitch and it's the game they're going to honor Bob Uker and his celebration of life.
These are going to be really hot tickets and all you have to do right now is download the Civic Media app, open it up, one of the first 11 stations, click on that, then click where it says text and text the word Bob.
B-O-B right now at the top of the hour.
20 minutes away from now we are going to give away two of these tickets to this very special game on August 24th honoring you and you could be going along with a friend again text the word Bob B. O. B. right now to the civic media app guys your show of my know the mayor every morning in Green Bay in Oskar six until nine people could also stream on this aforementioned civic media app.
and we were talking over the break, you know, I'm so thankful to be back in radio after being out for for quite a while.
It's a privilege and it's an honor.
But one of the coolest things I like about it is not just having fun and being goofy, but also being able to do a small part to impact our local communities.
I know that's where our founder and CEO Sage Weill is passionate about is community involvement.
Tell folks a couple of main issues that you guys are focused on up
here.
First of all, there's a lot of issues, right?
I mean, they just are.
But I spend a lot of time, I focus a lot of my energy on the homeless population, and we have that here in Green Bay, and those people who say they don't have it, they're in denial.
It's everywhere.
And awareness, and some people, they may stereotype this, and it's not, it's our job to say, look, we've had homeless people on our show, and have talked to them, and these people are struggling.
And
they need help.
Each one of them has a...
interesting story to tell.
It might be heartbreaking, but it's
compelling.
And so I actually work part-time at the New Community Shelter here in Green Bay, and I like the fact that I can convey some of these stories.
I can talk about, there's fundraising in every non-profit, and we like to support the fundraising for New Community Shelter.
The best thing about it is we're making an impact.
I know we are because I hear people say things and I think we're moving the needle a little bit.
So that's I'm passionate about that as I am everything else.
But like I told you during the break, you got to pick maybe one, two or three things because there's just you can't pick.
20.
Although I will say this, what he does there as far as getting people to help, they get hands on when they serve the food.
And it's really good to make awareness of some of our young people about the plight of homeless because some might have a misconception of what they really go through.
Jim, talk about the time you had a group serving the homeless on the Friday before Memorial Day last year.
And
Johnny was there.
and I just want to say before that I have students come I teach and I have my students come they're not just well if you don't do a good job you end up here it's like look as somebody who makes money you got to give back to your community and this is something
that I really support.
It's a slippery slope between being you know whatever you are and being homeless.
Two paychecks.
Anyway we're we had Green Bay the verse
There's wealthier schools and wealthier school come in and was helping us serve.
These kids, I don't know, juniors, yeah, so.
And it was slow that day.
We serve about 150 people for a meal.
And I think we're, I don't know, 90, 95.
And I was like, wow.
I said, it's a little slower today than I thought.
And he said, you know, there are probably a lot of people up at their cottages.
the homeless rhetoric, the homeless
rhetoric.
He
did.
We're like, ah, okay, dude.
Well,
let's
talk.
But
isn't that fascinating?
That's what he's
saying.
That's what he's saying.
Just people don't know.
I mean, that
is the definition of privilege.
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
But how cool is it that you're helping in a gentle way, say it, look,
time out?
Exactly.
I
just want to tell you, that kid was there volunteering.
Right.
He was just great.
He's a great kid.
He
just didn't see the whole field.
Right.
But but great that you're inner.
I don't want to say intervening but helping to educate at that age like dude
We're
talking
with John Minow and Jim Schmidt hosts of Minow and the mayor every morning six until nine here in Green Bay and Oshkosh.
You can find their show on the civic media app as well.
John, I know one of the things you're passionate about.
You've talked on this show before veterans.
You guys don't do a lot of hard power.
I think that's for the best, quite frankly, because it's more inclusive.
But regardless of what people might think about what's happening out in Washington DC tomorrow, I would hope to goodness all of us can be in agreement that the men and women who have put on the uniform of the United States Army for 250 years, the uniform of the U.S.
Navy for 250 years, all of our veterans deserve our respect and our gratitude.
Yeah, no question about it.
Another group that I just want to throw out there is a National Guard.
What about units from right around here and the Madisonians?
They're gonna be deployed overseas in the Middle East and I was very fortunate I embedded three times once in Iraq or once in Afghanistan twice in Iraq and Jim's been to Kuwait the same type of thing to booty all those areas And you know you find out they're a long way from home if nothing else all the other things They're a long long long way from home and their age and they're so young my goodness, you know when they're in the big battle, you don't see it They look you know indestructible big strong and then I remember I brought over the Brewers Milwaukee Brewers
at the time, um, um, Somerfeld, Kent Somerfeld.
Oh, really?
Sent me a whole bunch of t-shirts, Brewer's t-shirts.
Good old Kent Somerfeld.
Remember Kent?
Of course.
And I gave them all to the young people at the base I was at.
So they're wearing, they were allowed, they got special permission to wear those Brewer t-shirts around in the mess hall and everything.
And that's when it hit me.
It's like, oh my gosh, these kids look like they should be cutting their grandma's.
instead of fighting a war we send really young people to war and that's what opened up both of our eyes more than anything is the youth that is that we're sending away and that lesson and God bless so that's that's one of the things I remember one time I said when I was in Afghanistan Kandahar it was Thanksgiving morning in this young group the hey Mr. Minor we're from I think one of the girls was from Shanno and never and they were going on this mission in Kandahar you know the birthplace of the Taliban on Thanksgiving and everybody in back in Wisconsin was
getting ready to eat this big meal and have fun and watch football.
And here's these young kids going out in this most dangerous place on the face of the earth.
So it's like, how can you not want to support them?
Right.
And I mean, you guys said over the break as well, unfortunately, but realistically, too often, some of our homeless are also some of our veterans.
No
question.
We have dedicated spaces for the veterans, you know and and that's sad It's really you talk about you know someone who did so much for you and then they're homeless and they have some bad sad stories I mean something's happened.
There's medical things that come up and but yeah, that's there's no absolutely no reason any of our veterans should be homeless
Jim, I know that you do a program on your own, I believe, on the weekends.
It does get a little bit more into politics on Lean Local.
Tell us when that's on and what you talk about there.
They give me a little more rope on
that.
But I just want to say, Todd, you're right.
When people are getting up in the morning, they don't want to hear politics.
I mean, they don't want to get ready to just whatever, have their cereal.
On Sundays, it's called Lean Local with Jim Schmidt.
And we really, Johnny and I have people on for maybe 20 minutes, right?
And I'll get them on for the full hour.
And you can get pretty deep into some questions after that first 20 minutes.
you know, some laughter, but it's really, and we dig pretty deep and we've had, we've had the politicians on both sides of the aisle and I enjoy that, I understand it and I'm not a.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I
don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I
don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
some people say, wait a minute.
Well, how can you say no to this?
There's a surplus.
And yet, on the other hand, you know, we've got different parties.
They just ice something.
They just told you about an hour ago that we're kind of hoping we would get.
But look, I think people are concerned about that.
I do think people don't like this partisanship.
I will say that.
Agreed.
I
travel over the state and people are like, why don't they just get stuff done?
They don't say stuff.
They say something
else.
And there's a lot of frustration.
And what hurts voters is that when you kind of vote for someone to send them there, and then they just, they're not independent.
They're not going
to go down
there.
I'm going to fight the fight for you.
And they get down there and it's like, well, wait a minute.
That's not what you told me.
So it's a little frustrating.
what scares us a little bit and is that they may turn voters off and people don't vote.
Then we're really in trouble.
And
I think
Sage is right with this community radio that he's got because once people stop running for office and these guys go in or these ladies guys go in unopposed, their constituents become each other and they forget about us.
So we need to keep
the issues on the front table and be respectful to both sides.
But that's something we try to
do.
I will say this.
So you wouldn't think at least I didn't I didn't pay much attention to politics.
No, I'm sorry.
That's just funny, sir.
I used to host his re-election fundraising campaign.
Really?
Yeah.
That's what I
meant.
Yeah.
And I used to tell him, I sure voted for you, Jim.
I'm sure voted for you.
And then I made the mistake of telling him I lived in Allaway.
We couldn't vote for the grieving.
All those years he's telling me, you're my guy, Jim.
You got my vote.
You got my vote, boy.
Never voted.
Who is the real
politician?
I
mean, come on.
Well, guys, just a couple of minutes left here.
Again, I think, just my opinion, what we've lost in this state, in this country, is remembering that our neighbors aren't our enemies.
They're our neighbors.
And I think one of the things that you guys do so well every morning from six until nine is you reconnect this part of the state and realize that we have more in common than we have not.
And I just think it's great.
Any plugs for coming up, guests for next week?
We'll have
the
sheriff on.
We're going to talk about him.
And again, there's just, there's issues here.
As much as we talked about, you're talking about, you know, Packers and how great the arts are here.
You know, we have no problem.
We have a homeless problem.
And Todd's going to address that.
Number of people coming in.
We have some veterans coming in.
They'll be on a typical show.
By now in the Bay Area, you can hear them every morning, six until nine on GBW and ISS.
Thank you, guys.
Appreciate the time.
Thank you, Todd.
Thank you, Todd.
Always keep up the good work.
Come on back with some headlines after this.
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You can hear him
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How about that, Summers?
That's a way to start off a show.
It is.
It is.
Those guys are always a hoot.
And
they're not just... And they've got a lot of energy.
They're fun.
They have a lot of energy, but they're not just fun and have a lot of energy.
They also have a lot of important stuff to talk about and bring on such a wide variety of people.
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The show is not over by any stretch of the imagination.
Coming up in hour two, Lisa Hale, or the host of our news director up here, but also the new WISCO weekend on Saturdays at 8 a.m.
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She'll be here at 3.20 to talk about that great program based up here.
And the one, the only
The host of Late Night Entertainment, Mr. P. Chwaba, host of Night Light, will be here in his own studio.
and many thanks to him for coming in early and many thanks to his great producer, Conrad, who is helping us out as well right now on the other side of his glass and hanging out with us.
We appreciate you, Conrad.
Thank you.
Yeah, of course.
It's always fun being a
part of the Todd Elder show.
Well, it's just it's fun being up.
You guys are you guys make me want to say I shall relocate to Green Bay because it's a great vibe.
I'm not kidding around.
As Joe Biden says, I'm not kidding around here.
I'm being serious.
You got you got Todd Michaels, the great general manager of Green Bay.
and Oshkosh and does, you know, he's the voice of Civic Media, all of our great ads, or many of them.
You hear his voice on there.
You got Conrad of course, you got Amanda, one of the other great producers up here in Green Bay, Eliza.
And Eliza is originally from, I believe, Australia.
Correct.
Yes.
And she has got an accent that will make you think you're talking to Adele.
Even though I know Adele is not from Australia, but it's fantastic and she's salty and a salty Australian and I love every part about it So we may have to work her into the show at some point in the future as well.
So
it's a great team up
here Oh, yeah, it's great.
And you know, she's a great addition to the team, you know, she came on to nightlight
And it was, it was such a fun interview.
I bet it was.
Yes.
Somehow I missed that, but I'll go back and dial it up.
But no, it's a lot of fun up here.
And you all listening today and watching also on the stream, gonna have a lot of fun.
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And for those who don't know, Luke Mathers, by the way, Mathers was salty because I forgot to thank him by name at the end of the show yesterday.
It was a great yesterday was the 12th.
I'm not going to go into all the details, but we ended up here.
We're going to do the shuttle for the show, the show from shuttle yesterday, but a variety of internet gremlins got so I had to speed over to the studios here at Green Bay.
Todd Michaels helped save us, but also our great team of Madison, of which Luke Mathers, he helped host with Zomers at the beginning of the show.
And I forgot to call him out by name.
That's on me.
I apologize.
He was rather salty about it.
You had a lot on your mind.
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Thanks to everybody who will put the contest together.
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But as Zahra said, we'll get back to giving away Brewer's tickets on free Friday Brewer Giveaway extravaganza.
Free Ticket Friday is the simpler name.
By the way, this is a statewide contest.
Thank you, Todd.
We're up in Green Bay.
The lawyers on the 12th floor are not near me.
And so I'm not back at home Conrad.
The lawyers have a hot chair hooked up to my seat.
And if I don't say statewide, they shock me.
And sometimes I don't say it, just so I can get shocked.
All right.
Anyway, come on back and play what's worse.
Lisa Hale will be here and the great Pete Schwabba.
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I'm Tom Allbaugh, along with Mr. Aaron Zomers, our producer and engineer back in the world headquarters in downtown Madison.
It is six minutes past the hour of three o'clock.
Welcome into hour number two of the big broadcast.
It is Friday the 13th.
That's right, June 13th, 2020.
2025.
It's a great day to be Wisconsinite.
It's okay.
We had all of our bad luck yesterday.
Yes, exactly.
On
the 12th.
We front-loaded it.
So, are you a believer?
I'm not sure if we talked about this before as ours.
Are you a superstitious person?
Not particularly.
I feel like most stuff we can explain, we eventually are able to explain, but also, sometimes crazy stuff happens and...
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't have specific superstitions or anything like that, but I am open to the possibility
We are fortunate to have co-producers here on the show today, the great producer Conrad of Nightlight with Pete Schwabba, who will be on the broadcast at the bottom of this hour.
Conrad, are you a superstitious person by nature?
I don't think Todd Michaels is gonna like this because he's a paranormal investigator.
Yes, that's what I was gonna say.
But I
don't, I don't believe.
Really?
I don't, I don't.
Not at all?
No, not really.
Wow.
See, I...
Kind of do I I believe in spirits.
I believe in spirits and I guess they're by ghosts as well I'm not you know, I'm the jury's still out on like alien people, but I don't know I guess I'm open to it, but superstitious
Yeah,
I'm not particularly superstitious, but as my grandma all ball used to say
She'd spill salt on the table and she'd pick it up and throw some over her shoulder.
And I'd say, grandma, are you super?
Because she was a very religious woman.
I said, grandma, are you superstitious?
And she'd say, no, but it doesn't hurt just to check.
The fact is she was very superstitious.
We were once driving one time and a black cat went across the highway in front of us.
And she said, oh my land, it's a black cat.
She was she was very superstitious.
She was religious and she was superstitious.
All right, coming up to the as we said before mentioned at the bottom of the hour, Mr. Pete Schwab host of the great program along with Conrad a nightlight here on civic media is based out of this great studio in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Pete is going to be in.
We'll talk a little bit about some music people that we lost this week.
Beach Boys.
I mean, not without the entire Beach Boys.
Brian Wilson.
Brian Wilson.
That would have been tragic if all the Beach Boys had tied together
on an airplane or something.
That tends to happen, or at least it
used to.
Let's not wish anybody any bad luck speaking of being superstitious.
Brian Wilson, we'll talk about that.
We'll find out what's coming up on Night Light Tonight and also kind of get Pete's take on entertainment and life around Green Bay.
Because as we talked with Mino and the mayor,
We love our Packers, but there's so much more in Green Bay than just the Packers.
Although Conrad, you went to the draft this year.
I did.
And just to remind you, Pete is a Bears fan, actually.
I forgot about that.
Thank you.
Yes.
He's a Chicago boy.
Yes, yes.
But
the draft was a lot of fun.
I was about 11 rows back.
And I had a big group around eight people with me.
Wow.
So it was a lot of fun.
We stayed from, I think we got there at 3 PM.
A draft and start till, you know, seven around there.
So we were standing for like seven hours, something around there drinking water.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
You know, once you once you got packed in there, they stopped having people come around getting, you
know, oh, really?
Yeah.
So if you wanted to get a drink, you probably lose your spot.
True.
Right.
So we kind of just said, well,
we're here now.
You were there when Golden got
drafted.
Yes.
That'd be really cool.
It was it was so loud.
Really?
It was so loud.
But after that, we after that pick, we immediately went.
back to my apartment.
Really?
We're done
standing.
We're done standing.
We need some water.
All right, very good.
Also coming up on this half hour, Lisa Hale, who does the news up here, the news director of Northeast Wisconsin, but she's also one of the hosts of New Wisco Weekend.
Great program talking about life in this part of the state.
She'll be along talking about that at 3.20.
But right now it's 10 minutes past the hour of three o'clock.
Time once again for What's Worse.
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All right, timely, timely indeed.
Conrad's already ahead of us on this one.
He is drinking soda.
He is drinking what kind right now?
It
is a Coke zero.
And here thus thus that
might answer the
question thus the debate ensues today's category.
What's worse soda or diet soda?
soda or diet soda 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 you can also text us on the civic media app I know for some parts of Wisconsin is pop Give me a pop
But I grew up mostly I was really young.
We had a double cola Bottling my dad worked there in Richland Center the bottle double cola and ski the great Hank Clarkson owned that and Conrad here at ski.
I don't think so Zommer ski.
Nope.
Oh It's I mean there's a debate on those people I could Sean Oh or my dad's step mom.
We're at home with Sundrop, of course
Sundrop is similar to ski and Mountain Dew.
I would say if I put, and this could be very unpopular, this neck of the woods, if I put a Sundrop, a Mountain Dew and a ski together, I'm going for the ski every time.
It's really good stuff.
I've never had it.
Anyway, but I would go with Sundrop over Mountain Dew.
Really?
Oh,
yeah.
Sundrop is amazing.
It's great stuff.
It is so soda or diet soda 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 our very own Tony Zimmerman watching on YouTube says diet pop is awful and absolutely the worst So there you go, there's Tony very
we had
a con this
the can opposite in the text line
Yeah, Cam and Appleton says, I will die on this hill.
Regular pop is rancid and diet pop is life.
Wow.
That's something else.
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2-8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
What's the worst?
Soda
or diet soda?
Lisa Hale in the green room with a diet soda.
Want to bring her on early?
Sure.
Why not?
Why not?
We can we can ask her if she's ready to go.
Join us via stream yard.
Lisa.
All right.
News director here.
The Northeast part of the state was worse soda or diet soda.
Absolutely.
Soda is the worst.
Hands down.
I mean, you can get, of course, I'm addicted to Diet Coke.
I have to say that straight out.
I mean, you're
talking to
somebody who drinks at least four bottles of it a day.
Really?
Wow.
Right.
It's an addiction, y'all.
Well, I was like in middle school or high school.
I drank way too many Mountain Dews.
My mom actually cut me off.
That was a good thing.
And so I go through phases right now.
I mean, I've tried to cut back soda in my life, but I don't know.
Aaron, watching on YouTube, says diet soda is worse.
Tastes like Splenda sugar.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Actual soda, you know, the fully leaded, the fully sugar, the corn syrup or whatever.
It just tastes way too sweet to me.
I'm so used to diet that that's where I'm going to go.
And that's
fascinating.
Coke Zero is too sweet.
It's got to be Diet Coke.
Now that just might just be my brain, but, you
know.
Cameron Appleton says, Lisa and I are aspartame winning.
There you go.
All right, Greg and Genesee Depot, listening to WAUK says soda is worse.
Also Jackie, oh, Jackie, the nominee falls is on the line.
Jackie, thanks for calling in 855-752-4842.
Jackie, soda or diet soda, what's worse?
Diet soda is worse.
Soda is better.
I think diet soda, they...
I think they pack it with that stuff that they're trying to ban right now.
That's why I don't like diet soda.
I think it's not got regular ingredients in it.
They got to make up for it somehow.
I don't know how else to explain it.
I just don't like diet.
It also doesn't taste good.
I hear you.
Thanks.
Appreciate it, Jackie.
I'm in Omni Falls.
Thanks for calling in 855-752-4842.
Let's go to the Northwoods.
Ollie, in the Northwoods, Ollie, soda or diet soda, what's worse?
Well, at the risk of sounding like a Debbie Downer, they're both equally bad for your teeth.
But I do drink diet soda.
You have to drink one probably in some ways healthier, right?
All right.
I appreciate I'll have a great I have a great weekend up there the beautiful north woods checking it on YouTube Tony says I have replaced pop almost entirely with bubbler way less sugar, but still not better.
Yeah, bubbler.
I was introduced to that years ago.
Not years ago, but
four or five years ago.
Little sister, Heather, listening over in shawano today on Facebook says as a type one diabetic regular, the regular estota is a killer.
Honestly, I drink more fizzy water now.
I need a bit of a carbonation sometimes.
Well, don't we all don't we all need a bit of a carbonation?
She says, although a diet coke from McDonald's once in a while is very good.
That's a great debate, you guys.
Coke from McDonald's is still the
Probably the best Coke aside from Mexican Coke because Mexican Coke which is bottled in Mexico is made with cane sugar and not this fructose corn syrup or whatever.
Yes, agreed, hard agree.
Thought, thoughts panel, Lisa?
Totally agree.
If I get a diet Coke from McDonald's, I know it is going to be the best ever of all time.
Conrad?
I gotta go with that.
I love Diet Coke as well.
But from McDonald's, do you think McDonald's
Coke
is better?
Yes.
And I'll say this too, their Sprite is the best Sprite too.
It is.
See, I think they put something extra in it.
They do.
They legitimately eat.
Joseph, watch it.
Yeah.
Joseph, watch it on YouTube, says, in my honest opinion, it's brand and sweetener dependent.
The best is sugar cane sweetened, I agree.
Don't care for
corn syrup sweetened, diet, some diet pop is just okay, Coke Zero, Dr. Diet Pepper are not that great.
Well, Lisa and Conrad would disagree.
I think he was saying that those are good, or at least okay, but most other ones are not.
All right, sorry.
I'm reading several different screens here.
I apologize.
Well, I will
tell you, every morning I come into work with a Diet Coke, a cup of coffee, and a glass of water.
Wow.
That's why the news is so spicy up here in Northeast Wisconsin.
It is caffeine fueled.
What's worse, soda or diet soda?
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2-8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
Zomers,
did you say already?
I did not.
I think it's a tough one for me because I'm just not much of a soda drinker in general.
Didn't grow up drinking much of it.
It was always a rare thing.
I think that I'm more used to the taste of regular soda, but diet soda, I don't feel as bad after drinking it.
I don't know.
So what's worse?
I'm still going to say diet soda is worse just because I'm not used to it.
My panel will not be happy with me, but there is only one correct answer.
Diet soda is worse.
Because I don't like the diet-y taste.
I don't like the made-up sugar cane.
Real cane sugar in Hawaii.
Growing in the sun.
C&H.
We're gonna come back.
Talk to Lisa Hale.
Talk about her great weekend program and more.
We're live from WGVW Green Bay on the Civic Media.
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We are live on location in Green Bay, Wisconsin WGBW on the civic media radio network and it's now 22 minutes past the hour three o'clock.
That is by request by our next guest.
I don't need any snotty.
feedback at signs.
I did not pick.
Lisa, I wouldn't give half my troubles to a monkey on a rock to quote David Letterman.
So I don't.
So that was your request and song, right?
Yes.
Yes.
I requested that bottom girls used to be my theme song back when I was a.
Classic rock disjockey.
So
it's a great song as you said.
It
is.
It is.
It's fantastic.
I've talked to Alisa in just a second here.
Cleaning up a couple of things in aisle two.
First of all, a one last call on what's worse.
We go to the phone lines and to Sun Prairie we go listening on WMDX Pete.
Not Schwabba, but Pete.
I don't think so anyway.
But wouldn't that be a surprise if Pete Schwabba was in Sun Prairie?
Pete in Sun Prairie, what's worse, soda or diet soda?
Pete.
Are you there?
Pete is not there.
It seems we have lost Pete.
Doc is here.
Doc is not there.
All right, well fun.
Too bad Pete, sorry about that.
Lost your chance.
Also clean up an aisle too.
A caller, namely my mother wants to know, Zomers, do we ever tell who wins the tickets?
We do.
Do we get that list, Zomers, of some of the winners for the big giveaway thing?
Yeah, I'll see if I can get some.
I will see if I can find that list, or rather, I will find that list by our next segment.
All right, very good.
All right, joining us via StreamYard right now, she is the Northeast Wisconsin Bureau Chief of Civic Media News and also the host of a great program every weekend here in Green Bay called New Whisker Weekend on Saturdays at 8 a.m.
and Sunday at 11 a.m.
She is Lisa Hale.
Lisa, thanks for being on.
Absolutely.
I'm so glad to join you.
And I have to say, it does my heart good to know that your mama listens.
Oh, she does.
And texts you during the show.
My mama used to do that too.
She would listen constantly.
And if I
messed up, though, she would let me know.
Usually mom says, well, I got to listen to your show because you don't call me enough.
I don't know what's going on.
The
only
way I know my son is alive is to listen on the radio.
Yeah, pretty much.
Let's talk about your great show, New WISCO Weekend.
How did you come to put it together and tell folks what it's about?
New WISCO Weekend is kind of like an audio magazine.
Imagine that you're going to the store, you pick up a magazine, and how you open it up, you've got little articles here there in Yandere, but there's always usually a cover story.
And that's kind of how we do Newisco Weekend.
It is a news magazine with different feature stories, and we have a cover story every week, which is usually a longer form interview or a longer form story.
And it's a really good way for us to
Get a little bit more in depth to some of the stories that we tell get a little bit more detail get a little bit more Fun and we do try to keep them very positive and very upbeat You know each each magazine or each show has a theme like this coming weekend is
Flag Day, because it's Flag Day Saturday.
And our cover story is an interview I did with Fly Me Flag, which is Stacy Stewart up there in Green Bay.
She has a store in Green Bay.
She supplies flags to municipalities and to the governments and businesses.
And she's considered a flag expert.
So we
have
her on as our cover story this week.
And then we have a little, you know, we have Amanda Zimmer, Amanda Zimmer, Amanda Nimmer.
I'm trying to combine her name and Aaron's there.
But Amanda Nimmer is our commentator.
So this is going to date me a little bit.
Imagine Andy Rooney, but a millennial female.
I love it.
That's that's our man.
We just played a clip of Andy Rooney's from 20 years ago on when he did a D-Day, which was really, really good.
Yes.
And you know, Amanda can be serious sometimes, but she can also be very funny sometimes, just like Andy Rooney could be.
Or she's a modern date Irma Bomback, if you will.
So again, that dates me
so badly.
So we've
got her and we've got all sorts of fun things.
I've, uh, I've listened to it and a is very interesting.
And just like Mino and the mayor, many of the great shows, all the great shows are based in either Green Bay or Oshkosh.
If you don't live in the greater Fox Valley, as they say, you could still listen on the civic media app.
Just download it for free at your Apple or Android device and then go to your WGB W or W I S S and listen in.
And of course, everybody can listen to the podcast version on civic media dot us.
I think this is really greatly so.
I'm still glad you guys started this because even though I don't live up here, I get up here a lot because, uh, pairs live in Chateau, but I find it enormously entertaining and interesting living in Madison.
Well, you know, we don't just, even though it's called new Wisco weekend and we do try to focus in on the Fox Valley on the greater Green Bay area, we also have.
correspondence and stories that come from Central Wisconsin.
You know, Wausau and Wisconsin Rapids send me stories all the time that we use.
Down in Richland Center, Joanne Krulatz helps us out.
So, you know, we get stories from all over that we use on the on the magazine.
And I think it really works out.
Melissa Kay, Brittany Merlot, Joanne Krulatz, Conrad Krieger, Amanda Nimmer, myself and Terry Barr.
We are a great team, and I'm really proud of the show.
You should be because, like I say, it reminds me of the old Discover Wisconsin show.
It's not old, but I mean, it's still on.
There used to be a show called PM Magazine.
years and years ago, maybe, uh, uh, Schwab will remember that.
And it was, it was focused on the state, but it has those kinds of vibes.
And just like we're talking, might own the mayor.
Yeah.
I think there was a place for, for political discourse and we can have discussions about our disagreements.
I think that's healthy.
We do that on this show, but I also, and that's, we try to do some of this on our show, but your show, uh, newest go weekend, it's about somebody, the things that bring us together and unite us as Wisconsinites.
And I think that's also really healthy.
in these times.
It is very healthy in these times.
And I try to avoid getting into so much politics.
Right.
Because it can be so negative.
So
Lisa, can you stick around a little bit, uh, crossover with Shwabba on the next, next episode, next episode, next bit.
All right.
Very good.
Lisa's going to stick around.
We got Conrad, we got Zomers, we got Shwabba and the Wings.
Don't go anywhere.
We're live from Green Bay, the all ball show on the Civic Media Ready Network.
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Welcome back to the Taliban show across Wisconsin.
The civic media are ready to work.
It is now 35 minutes past the hour of three o'clock here.
Glad to have you along live from Green Bay WGVW studios here in downtown Green Bay.
And so we're wrapping up our show for today on the road.
So many great people.
Lisa Hale, the bureau chief of civic media news here northeast Wisconsin and also the host of the great program on the weekends.
New WISCO weekend joins the fiesta stream yard and here.
in the Pete Schwabba Studios, the one, the only, the host of Nightlight every evening from six until eight.
Pete Schwabba is here.
How are
you?
I'm great, Todd.
Great to be here with you, buddy.
Thanks for inviting me.
I kind of had to come in here anyway, so
I hope you didn't do it too
early.
No,
I felt bad asking you to come in early, but it's great to have you here.
No, it's great to be here.
Always, I said in my text to you, if Todd Alba asks, I say how high.
You're too kind.
You're way too kind, my friend.
Lisa, before we let you go, I just wanted to wrap up, but again, people can hear your great program over the air on WGBW and WISS in Oshkosh every Saturday morning at 8 a.m.
and on Sundays at 11 a.m.
They can also hear it via the Civic Media app if you tune in to GBW or ISS, and of course, at Civic Media.us as well.
What's coming up on the big program this weekend?
Well, as I said, it's flag day.
So our cover story is Fly Me Flag in Green Bay.
We've got a story on the Oshkosh Farmers Market.
We've got some stories on, excuse me, I feel like I have to cough.
We have stories on reckless driving on the Jolly Roger.
That's what Amanda did her commentary on this year, since it's a flag, the Jolly Roger.
You know, Pete Schwabba is part of New Wisco Weekend.
Yeah.
I didn't even
plan this.
I'm the only one who contributes who got a signing bonus.
I probably shouldn't say that in the air, but.
No, you shouldn't.
I'm
very proud to be part of the show.
Lisa's phenomenal.
It's a great show.
It really is.
It really is.
He gives us a classic cinema pick every week, and he does a very good job of tying it to the theme somehow.
I try.
He
does
like a patriotic pick this week for flag.
It
was flag.
It was flag day and I was looking for obviously flag football movies, but there aren't many of those out there.
So I just went
with the
actual flag day.
All right.
All right, we're looking forward to nervous anticipation to this.
Lisa, is there anything I have not asked you so far you'd like to share with our audience about New WISCO Weekend or events happening here in Northeast Wisconsin?
Oh, there's so much I could talk to talk about.
But I just say tune into New WISCO Weekend, whether you get it off of a podcast through our website, civicmedia.us, or hear it live on the air.
It's a great magazine show, and I think you'll enjoy it.
I certainly do and I would encourage all of our listeners to check it out as well.
You and your team do a great job of putting this together.
Thank you for all you do.
I know you've joined us before at election nights as well.
Lisa Haley, you're part of what makes Wisconsin great being a part of our great news team all across Wisconsin, but also bringing us these great programs on focusing on Wisconsin culture and things that might get overlooked, but we should all be aware of.
So thank you so much and thank you for taking time to join us today.
Absolutely, I appreciate you and I'm happy to be here.
Thank you, Lisa.
Lisa Hale, everybody.
We'll talk to her soon.
A host of New Wisco, Wisconsin, New Wisco Weekend, pardon me, and also our Northeast Wisconsin Civic Media News Bureau Chief.
Again, here we are in the Shrawabba Studios in downtown Greece.
I feel like, I almost feel like I'm on Nightlight because I got Pete to my left and you've got your great producer, Conrad, on the other side of the glass, fixing himself a nice gin and tonic before the show, which I think is fantastic.
down.
It's a little intimidating here, isn't it?
No, I
just always feel like I'm at home and it's always a lot of fun.
A because you have beautiful facilities up here, the one of two civic media studios that have a shower.
This one and Hayward.
Oh, hey, we have two, by the way.
You're the only one that has two.
We need the showers more here, apparently.
I've
showered at the one in Heyward when I covered the brick of butter, but never showered here.
Interesting.
So maybe I'll shower after the show.
It's weird.
Like, if you were caught showering here, it might seem strange.
Like, if I was, if I thought, I'm going to go in there and shower and somebody walked in, I'd probably feel like a little pervy or something.
And why would I?
There's a shower there.
I should
be
able to use it, but I feel like I can't.
Well, there's no curtain on them.
That's part of it.
That's part of the fun.
You never know.
The
risk.
The risk.
Exactly.
It makes it a little, a little edgy.
Exactly.
Well, tell us what you've been on before.
We always appreciate it for those that might not know your program follows Maggie Dawn's every evening from six until eight.
It's a great show, Pete.
It really is.
I enjoy it.
It's a great way to wind down the day.
Yeah, I think that that was our goal.
And it's always fun when you're on you always make it so much fun.
And I was so busy today beforehand.
I was thinking, what can I do to, you know, to make my entrance or my appearance here rival when you come on my show?
And I just the only thing I was pressed for time.
So I thought black socks and sandals for Father's
Day.
Beautiful.
Well done.
I
got the black socks.
I don't own sandals.
And I was like, I would have had to go to Goodwill to get a pair of like old time sandals.
My nieces, they're big thrifters.
Oh, really?
It's all the rage now.
The kids love the thrifty.
That's just proof.
My point, Pete Schwabba, you're cool enough you don't need a gimmick.
A schlep like me, it's like the old gypsy.
If you're gonna bump it, bump it with the trumpet.
You gotta have a gimmick if you're gonna get ahead.
That's the
line from Gypsy.
Well,
you're big enough.
You've been an actor.
You've been a writer.
You've been a producer.
You're a host on PBS.
You got your own show here.
You don't need a gimmick, Pete Schwabba.
Well, you're very nice, but I'm also still kind of learning radio, and you're like one of the guys I kind of listen to.
I'm
sorry about that.
Don't worry about
breaks.
Yeah,
you steered me wrong
a couple
times, but Conrad has my back in rallies.
That's good.
No, I've done all those things, and I've also been a garbage man.
You have?
I do not
know this.
Yeah, after my freshman year in college, I got a job with the city of Marinette.
I went home for the summer, and they offered me a job as the street surveyor with another college, with a college girl.
So we would measure streets.
That was our job.
And here I am.
Here's how stupid young people are.
I'm like, oh, man, I'm going to show them.
I'm a go getter.
And we measured this.
We had every street measure within like two and a half weeks.
The job was supposed to last all summer.
Here's what hard work gets you.
They stuck me on a garbage truck.
They made her do filing.
And I had to empty bad meat and milk out of people's garbage cans.
It was disgusting.
It was horrible.
You couldn't spend the summer measuring with a hot chick.
And instead, you're stuck in a garbage
truck.
I know what is the matter with me like that's but that's why you have to take You know when older people give you advice folks You have to take it with a grain of salt.
Yeah, because if I had just kind of coasted which is what people do now nobody believes in heart It's like, you know, why am I busting my butt trying to and yeah, it was horrible And then in all the city workers hated me, you know, because there's a college and there's another guy don't
make us look bad, dude
So yeah, it was it was a brutal summer, but you know what it taught me
not to work hard.
So that something good did come out of it.
I think
that's why I'm a procrastinator because oftentimes things will just take care of themselves Some days I wake up and my sister who sometimes has traveled with me for this show and some days I wish she was a what's your show about today?
I'm like I'm not sure and you wake up There's not a show and then something will happen.
I'm like now
you got a show That's
the beauty
of it and if you had worked hard tonight before you wouldn't have been able to watch that three is company
marathon
with Pete Schwabba.
He is the host of the fantastic program Nightlight every evening on this radio network network from six until eight.
Pete, let's talk a little bit of entertainment.
Big week, unfortunately, in bad ways for music, we lost Sly Stone.
I was listening to Matt Nair and air with her great friend, Jane Matt Nair.
And as she rarely does, but I always do, she she stumbled over words and she said, we lost Sly Stallone this week.
Like what?
I
didn't hear that
part.
That would have been an easier one
to write.
Yeah, exactly.
But no, Sly Stone.
And then we lost Brian Wilson, really the voice.
the brains of I can behind the Beach Boys.
Yeah, that was a bit.
I mean, you know, they were both in their 80s.
It wasn't like they weren't tragic losses, but still losses and it makes you I mean, to me, I just watched the sly lives documentary recently.
That guy, I mean, Sly Stone was such a visionary and I had no idea like I liked his music.
I thought he was this charismatic guy.
I knew nothing though about how influential he was to people like Prince and the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Stevie Wonder and
just a phenomenal talent and then Brian Wilson too that guy was like the voice of a generation so to speak and I didn't another thing I didn't know about Brian Wilson till I was probably my 30s was that he was considered a musical genius like their music sounds so easy and carefree and it's like oh yeah they just sing about no he was a phenomenal musician and absolutely brilliant so
two huge losses in the music world.
It really was.
And I, to your point, I mean, I knew who Brian Wilson was, but I'm a big fan of Anthony Mason at CBS who's done a lot of stuff for CBS Sunday morning.
He's really a true music entertainment guy.
And they replayed this week an interview that he had done with Brian Wilson some years back.
And I didn't realize how much Paul McCartney in particular, but the Beatles
Really respected and looked up to Brian Wilson and they released the Sergeant Pepper album after the
Yeah, yeah because the I just to chime in here the
Beatles had a legendary pioneering production team.
So did Beach Boys because of Brian Wilson.
Like, if you look at the song, Good Vibrations, that one alone took, if I recall, like $70,000 and like eight months of studio recording across the country in four or five different studios to record the one song.
That
is crazy.
When I heard the Paul McCartney looked up to Brian Wilson.
Boy, you know that the guy has legit musical cred.
And that's how I think a lot of people in the music industry looked up to him like that again, and I didn't know that like I'm not I know music I have eclectic taste I like a little bit of everything but I don't know
I've never done a deep dive until I got into my 30s and some of these people and it's just you really appreciate their contributions.
What would you say Pete Schwabba?
What's your what's your real house of entertainment?
What genre what what part of entertainment do you say boy?
That's the one I really know best or I like to talk about the best on the show or
otherwise
tap dancing.
Really?
I did not know.
I wish I
could.
Well, I mean, I was I started in the business as a standup comedian, and then I kind of segwayed into comedy writing.
So I would say probably comedy.
But, you know, I also like growing up, I loved like Woody Allen, Albert Brooks, these kind of these comedians that wrote their own film, started them and directed them.
And I got to do that with my film, The Godfather of Green Bay.
So certainly not to the degree of success that those guys have.
But those are my influences growing up.
I just love
of the comedy.
I love stand up, sketch, funny movies and TV.
So that's kind of been what I've done my whole adult life.
And the great thing about Nightlight is I get to talk about those experiences and have some of those people on the show at night.
to, like you said, help people kind of wind down at the end of the day after we, especially now with what's going on in the world and in
our
country.
I mean, talking politics could be stressful enough.
Just when you're coming from this side and this person's coming from this side, but now what's happening, it's like you really need an escape, you know, and so much so Todd, it's so contentious right now.
I almost feel like I shouldn't be talking about some of this stuff.
Like, you know what I mean?
But I think
people do need an escape.
I was, I was watching after midnight, the show that comes on after cool.
I canceled, actually.
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah.
Now I'm playing on her name.
Taylor Tomlinson.
And I've heard that she's a spectacular comedian, like a stand-up in a club.
But I don't want to go into it.
But I think the show was ill-conceived.
It was a low budget and just a weird show.
So that's canceled.
But she came on.
It was Monday.
And she's like, yeah, this is the last week of our show.
But she's like, she was.
You can tell us in last week because now she's really good because you say what she really thinks.
And she's like, you know, I honestly don't want to do this crap right now.
Like, I don't feel like I should be joking about this when all this stuff is going on right now.
But all the more reason, you know, you can't, I mean, I make the mistakes sometimes of looking at.
like the most toxic like Twitter.
It's just, it's like nobody commenting.
They're all spewing such hate and they don't have the real names.
They're real pictures or anything like that.
So, you know, all the more reason I look at that right before I go to bed and then I need a sitcom or something to wind me down, you know, so.
You can wind down every night with Pete Schwabba and Nightlife.
We'll come back talk with more with him and Conrad we're live from those GBW in downtown Green Bay on the Civic Media, Ready Network.
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Welcome back to the time I'll show on the civic media ready network.
We are live in downtown Green Bay at the home on WGBW studios here and also night light with Pete Schwab.
It's now eight minutes before the top of the hour at the top of the hour, four o'clock, ABC or CBS News, depending upon which of our great stations you're listening to across Wisconsin, whether update our great sports reporter, Mike Clemens will be in with a sports report and then it's the Maggie Dawn show across the network every afternoon from four until six.
Follow
nightlight.
with the one, the only Pete Schwabbe he is here in his own studio here in Green Bay with this, along with his great producer, Conrad, on the other side of the glass.
Gentlemen, thank you for letting us borrow your studio for a day.
Well, thanks.
Actually, too.
Well, it's great to have you.
I know you've been here before, Todd.
It's like you're kind of an old pro here when it comes to Green Bay.
You've done your show everywhere in the state.
I'm like the bad penny that keeps showing up.
Oh, God, not him again.
We were talking a little bit.
segment there, of course, a piece shows, we stand at areas every night from six until, until eight.
We talk about Taylor Tomlinson a little bit and I mean, how is your show, one of the reasons I love your show, and I don't mean to suck up or anything here, but I truly mean this, is that it has a little bit of that Carson vibe to it, lemon vibe, because it's truly, you have people on because of your connections in Los Angeles and across Wisconsin.
You have legit people and entertainment, and not just actors or directors, producers or song comedians, all those people, and you have the time enough to have real conversations, and I love that about the show.
You know, I like doing that.
First of all, since I've been doing the show, we've been on for like a year and a half, maybe almost, and I...
I have been floored at the amount of talent in Wisconsin, whether it's comedically, comedy, music.
Terry Barr comes on every Friday night.
She's on vacation.
Rocker comes on tonight for a bar band Friday night.
And the music I've found just from local artists and the comedy from local comedians, even comedians in Wisconsin, but.
specifically because I do the show here northeast Wisconsin some great comics so yeah it's kind of made it easy so yeah it's fun to have people on from all over the country or people I've known a long time and kind of do a deep dive into
you know what makes you funny or how do you write your jokes that kind of stuff but it's been great to uh to talk to local more local artists as well you know
i've said this before on the show but it bears repeating because i love the story uh my my stepmom who is over in shano and she'll listen to our show occasionally
But when you joined the network, we had a conversation.
I said, oh, Pete Schwabba's going to be doing this show.
She went, Pete Schwabba?
You mean the guy that
does this show
on public television?
And I said, yeah.
And she said, oh,
I want to listen to that.
So I mean, you're
worked there.
I think it's really well.
And it's great work as well.
Yeah, that was fun.
I watched this show on PBS Wisconsin called Director's Cut.
My friend Steve Burroughs was on.
He had made a film called Chump Change.
Very funny.
you know this guy on PBS Wisconsin is interviewing Steve on this show called Director's Cut.
I'm like this is one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
Like PBS California doesn't have that where I lived at the time and when I came back I had made this film called The Godfather of Green Bay and they
I sent it to them, and I said, hey, I'd love to do your show.
And they said, OK, we'll have you on.
And then the host stepped down.
And I took over shortly after moving back here.
And when I went on as a guest, I had my pal Lance Barber come on with me, who was in The Godfather of Green Bay.
And he happened to be in the Midwest at the time.
And so we did the show together.
And it was just a blast.
So I did that for about 10 years.
And now we still do episodes periodically.
And we do what was Constant Film Festival episode.
But most of my duties there now are
uh, writing the intros for independent lens and POV.
So I, I write them and then I introduce them, but it's, it's not rarely do I get the chance to be funny or say, you know, cause some of these documentaries are so heavy.
Right.
And a lot of them are from foreign countries and you got to research everything.
So it's kind of become a different gig, but it's really fulfilling.
I really
liked it.
I got more, I went, I went to Wisconsin film festival this year.
I mean, one other time, but you know, two people I know, John Roach had his great film,
very
powerful film.
Uh, was it alone?
No.
A road?
Thank you.
The story of Howard Moore and the tragedy of his family going through that car accident.
And then our friends at just a bit outside of the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, which I have the DVD in my hot little hands, Sean Hannish and Kelly Call.
Great story.
The Brewers, that was also at the Wisconsin Film Festival.
And so there's so many Wisconsin based people or people from Wisconsin that do great film.
Oh man, it was this year in particular was fun because I got to meet John.
He was on director's cut for our episode.
Yeah, Rocha, fantastic guy.
That documentary made me proud to have an association with Wisconsin.
I didn't go to UW, Madison, my brother Andrew did, but...
I was like, oh my God, that film, the first part of it made me want to go back in time and go to UW Madison.
And then it gets very heartfelt at the end and there's a tragedy, but what an incredible story that was.
And then Sean and Kelly, I got to hang out with a couple of times just at the after parties and they were great guys.
Like I'd had Sean, I met Sean through you, you had him on your show, we had him on Nightlight a couple of times.
He did the popcorn pick of the week, one week.
And then I met Kelly at the film festival and I just really enjoyed talking to those guys.
They're having fun being back in Wisconsin.
And I had fun just meeting them and talking to them about the business.
So it was a
blast.
Conrad, best part of working with Pete on Nightlight or worse, whichever you want.
You
can't buy that kind of loyalty.
You guys
are
great together and that's part of the you know you clearly do get along like to work with each other and that's another part of the show that I enjoy as well.
Conrad writes a two hour script every night and then I hack the hell out of it.
He gets mad at me and he storms out and we have to get it back together before we go.
We've got an actress from the UPS.
Stephanie Gerno, who does a lot of horror film acting.
She's on the show at 6.35.
Comedian Steve Hofstetter at 7.05.
And then it's a Bar Band Friday night.
Rocker is filling in for Terry for the third week in a row.
Terry Bar will be back next week, but she's taking her well deserved.
She's off of the
penguins, right?
I think something like that.
I've been tracking her all over the globe because I put a bug on her car.
And yeah, she's driving.
She's driving around the world.
She's driving across the world.
But Terry will be back next week, but she's having a blast.
Well, many thanks.
to you.
But thank you very much, Pete Schwab.
I like to listen to him tonight from six until eight on Nightlight Conrad.
Thanks for all your work.
Last couple of days as well.
Want to shout out to Todd Michaels, the GM here in Green Bay and Oshkosh.
Also to Amanda Eliza, all the other crew here at Green Bay for making this happen this week.
Really appreciate you guys do a great job up here.
And Lisa Hale for coming on the show as well today and Zabra's back home.
We'll be back there on Monday and to everyone else at Civic Media who made this show go.
Thank you so much and all
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We had some really great shows this week in conversations with a lot of different people.
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Today, though, we're going to start out with Wednesday's conversation with Dan Schaefer, founder of the Reconpopulation Area and Civic Media Political Editor.
He recently wrote an article that might be a little bit of a controversial opinion on his website.
in which he details the reasons why he doesn't think Tony Evers should run for a third term as governor.
Listen in to find out
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Here at Civic Media, and I said this I think yesterday on the show Dan Schaefer that Maggie Gao and Brick Cut-A-Back from the governor's office are probably gonna need to spend some time there because after what you wrote they're probably feeling a little discombobulated.
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It's fantastic.
And yesterday, Dan Schaefer, you published an op-ed in which you made a little bit, as Dan, as Bob Schieffer at CBS likes to say, made a little bit of news.
Made a little bit of news.
Stirring the pot a little bit.
I decided to go out and plant a flag on this one.
I wrote,
The title of the piece is called Pass the Torch.
Tony Evers should not run for a third term as governor.
Basically, the larger premise of the piece is that Evers needs to do what so many other Democrats have not done and step aside when the time is right.
And I think Evers, who will be 75 in November, 2026, when he would be on the ballot if he decides to seek a third term,
I think it would be the best decision for him now to step aside and pass the torch to the next generation of leaders in Wisconsin.
I've seen it.
It's very well written as you always do.
I think it's very thoughtful.
Did you come to write this just from your own thoughts?
Or is this based on your reporting the people, the sources you've talked to within the Democratic Party with outside and just thinking, you know, I'm not sure this guy has a real shot again.
Well.
I've talked to a number of people as I've put this together.
I've had this in the works for a while.
It's something I've been thinking about quite a bit.
And I think, yes, it is very much colored by what happened with Joe Biden's catastrophic 2024, the debate, the dropout, everything connected to it.
But I think it is beyond that.
I think...
I think Evers could still be a very strong candidate if he does run again.
But I also think there is a whole lot of risk involved with running a candidate in his mid-70s for an important office like this.
And I'm not saying there is a direct one-to-one comparison between Tony Evers and Joe Biden.
Joe Biden was a particularly unpopular president.
Tony Evers is a popular purple state governor.
But I think...
Democrats have to recognize that they have had a real problem with this.
It's not just Biden.
You know, there have been eight congressional Democrats since 2022 who have died in office at three since last fall's election.
You know, at what point are Democrats going to stand up and recognize that they have a problem here and actually pass the torch to the next generation of leaders?
And I think back to, you know,
2007, 2008, I think part of what was so thrilling about Barack Obama's rise at the time is because it seemed like he was ushering in this new generation of leadership.
The Democrats seemed like the party of the future.
I don't think you can really say that about the Democratic Party right now.
It's not just Biden.
It's not just these other folks who have spent too much time in office.
Even just look at the US Senate, there are more...
senators over the age of 75, then there are senators younger than the age of 50.
And of those senators who are over 75, I think nine of 12 of them are Democrats.
And this has been such a problem for the party.
I don't see how we are not having this conversation about evers about passing the torch.
So what's your, what's your, in writing this article at the Reconpopulation Area, what's your biggest concern, Danny, that really
about what could happen to evers personally, like, hey, you know, let's get a little long on the tooth here.
Anything could happen.
Let's not, let's avoid having the possibility or a greater possibility of a Biden-esque moment.
Or are you using kind of evers as the, holy crap, we as the Democratic Party here or the Democratic Party, we just need to move on.
I think it's a little bit of both.
I think there is also an element of this that the by staying on for another term,
stymies the other larger development of the party.
And I think there may be been some other moments where the Democratic bench has not been as strong.
I think there are a number of qualified candidates who would be throwing their hats into the ring if Evers decides not to run.
And I think given the larger dynamics of the history of a midterm election, given the field of Republicans, which I think is
really poor right now that could be running for governor in a couple of years.
I think the time is right to pass the torch and let the next generation of leaders rise.
And I think there's also this problem too, that Democrats have to their detriment, gone out of their way to avoid a primary.
I think everything that happened with Kamala Harris last year was considering the timeline and everything.
It was an acceptable enough process, but it still wasn't a particularly good one.
I think we would have been better off having the voters decide.
I think that would also have been the case had we had a more competitive primary in the 2022 Senate race.
I think there is this kind of iron sharpens iron quality.
of having, you know, more competitive primaries that Democrats to their detriment have avoided.
And as so many people are looking for, you know, what should be the next path forward for Democrats?
Who's the Joe Rogan of the left?
Should we go with abundance or populism or whatever it is?
How about we just have the voters decide?
How about we get back to that small D Democratic principles and putting it to the voters and letting the people decide?
We're talking with Dan Schaefer, the founder of the Recompobulation Area.
You can check him out at www.therecompobulationarea.news.
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It's a great publication.
He is also our political editor here at Civic Media talking specifically about an op-ed he wrote yesterday and published calling for Governor Evers not to run for a third term.
Dan, I'm enormously entertained by this and intrigued by it.
Like I said, A is really well written.
But here we have, and you've been pretty open about this, that you leave
more democratic when it comes to your political ideology.
Me, a former Republican who left the party in 2011, but has voted Democratic ever since, and you would think maybe, well, Todd will be all, this is great.
I mean, Todd will be all for it.
I'm generally a pot stirrer, but here now, see, I guess maybe it's my old school in me because I'm not quite there yet.
I mean, if Evers is on the ticket,
Yes, I'm going to support him regardless of, because I think that there's nobody on the Republican side who's not a sycophant, a genuflector to Trump.
And I think that's dangerous.
But here's my concern, Dan Schaefer.
And I was listening to you filling in for Maggie Dawn with Angel Lang and Matt Rothschild yesterday.
You all did a fantastic job.
And I thought Angel Lang said something really interesting and correct me because I'm going to paraphrase it as I recall it.
And she said something along the lines of,
And she's a longtime organizer in the Milwaukee area.
She said something along the lines of, I think in this time of Trump and kind of extremist rightism, that there's a lot of Democrats, particularly in the progressive base, who don't want a centrist anymore, who don't want this kind of milk toastiness, that they want somebody harder on the left.
And that's my concern, that if Evers doesn't run, there's gonna be this wide open democratic primary, and that the progressive base is going to nominate more of
of a lefty who is not gonna sit well in a general election.
And then we get that idiot Shulman or somebody else in the governor's seat.
And then it's, you know, Katie bar the door, here we go.
Well, I think my issues with Evers have never really been like a real ideological difference or a, you know, policy differences.
And so, and, but I think if, you know, just the short list of candidates that I mentioned on there, would you,
pluck out any of them to say that they are particularly far left.
So I'll just
run through the list
quickly.
Attorney General Josh Call, State Senator Kelda Royce, Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez, Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley, Secretary of State Sarah Godluske, and I'm probably missing some, and soon to be former chair, Ben Wickler.
Is there anybody in that group that you would consider to be part of like the progressive
Left leaning wing of the party that you think might have trouble with in you know capturing some voters like yourself some in more independent minded
kind of towards the center.
I think I'm a bad example because I've just been through too much politically.
Otherwise, I'm going to vote for the Democratic nominee, whoever that is, because I'm opposed to Trumpism.
And I don't think there's anybody in Wisconsin Republican politics that's a possibility candidate for governor who's not part of Trumpism.
So I'm a poor example.
I will say people in, as they say, out state, people not Milwaukee and Madison, people in more rural areas of the state.
To answer your question directly, I've had a pleasure of meeting all the people that you mentioned.
They're all fine with me.
There's there's nobody there I personally have a problem with what I'm concerned of is to win the Democratic primary
How far left do they have to go?
What position?
I mean, Josh Call, I mean, he's seen his milk toast.
He didn't go after the fake electorate in Wisconsin.
I don't think he could win a Democratic primary.
Kelder Royce, I think she's very smart, a great senator.
She has been a little bit out of state, but I don't know how she's going to play statewide.
She lost the primary once for a governor of the Democratic primary.
Sarah Galuski, I think she's fine.
I hear her husband has financial issues that could come up in a general election.
That may stymie her.
I think Sarah Rodriguez is fantastic.
Fantastic that would be my pick, but you know, she's not super well known right now Of course that can be solved with money.
Guess what?
Who else did we leave out that Ben Wickler?
Fantastic chair.
We're gonna get to that in a minute I think you should be DNC chair still but you know, he's never been an actual elected official How does that play?
So there's just a lot of unknowns and in a time in our state where Governor Evers veto pen is the only thing keeping us from being Florida or Texas politically do we want to take that chance?
Well, I think, you know, we can't be so risk averse that people are afraid of their own voters, right?
I think
you know, to have to want to control the scenario as much as I think some do, I think that, you know, gives fewer opportunities to really have the conversation.
We don't know how these candidates might run until the rubber hits the road, until this goes from the hypothetical to the reality.
And I think, again, we can't be so risk averse that we're afraid that Democrats are afraid of their own voters.
Thanks for sticking around on the best of the Todd Allbaugh show.
Here's the rest of Todd's conversation with Dan Schaefer, civic media political editor and founder of the Reconpopulation Area on why he does not think that Tony Evers should run for a third term as governor.
He's here live and in person directly out of the Reconpopulation Area.
Mr. Dan Schaefer, the founder of the Reconpopulation Area and also our political editor here at Civic Media.
You can see all of his work and please subscribe at www.
The Recombobulation Area dot news.
Talking about this great article he wrote yesterday, op-ed calling for Governor Evers not, not to seek reelection.
Off of the YouTube channel, Tony says, I'm generally anti-older candidates.
Gee, thanks, Tony.
But Evers feels a little different.
I really love the guy.
Dan people people really do love me.
I mean his last Marquette Law School poll is numbers like still 60 plus likability and favorability.
Well, it wasn't quite that high, but he is very well liked among Wisconsin Democrats.
He is among
the more
popular politicians in the state.
He has had demonstrated that he does have some some crossover appeal.
But, you know, at a certain point,
That was also the case for another former Wisconsin Democratic politician who I used as an example in this piece too.
So one of the things that I talked about in this piece was the example of Herb Cole retiring, the late Herb Cole.
In May of 2011, Herb Cole announced that he was going to be retiring at the end of his term.
And now this is right after Democrats got absolutely cooked.
in the 2010 midterms.
You know, Scott Walker won, Ron Johnson won, Republicans flipped the state legislature.
So holding that seat in 2012 was far from a sure thing.
But what happened was Cole announced that he was retiring, and here's the quote that he said in that news conference announcing his retirement.
He said, quote, the office doesn't belong to me.
It belongs to the people of Wisconsin, and there is something to be said for not staying in office too long.
So, does Tony Evers want his legacy to be more like that of Herb Cole, who has a pretty unimpeachable legacy at this moment and got to spend his golden years riding shotgun in the car leading the Milwaukee Bucks Championship Parade?
Or do you want your legacy to be like that of Joe Biden?
who is now spending his time dodging questions about whether or not he was mentally competent while in office, whether or not he was covering that up, and whether or not that contributed to the rise of fascism in America.
Wow!
I love every part of this!
I love every part!
Dan Schaefer, stirring it up!
Jenny, watching on YouTube as well, says earlier before the break, my argument was, I'm afraid the Democrats are gonna mess this up and nominate somebody who's way too progressive to win in a general election.
Jenny says, everything Todd is saying is exactly the conversation Democratic voters should be included in and justifies Dan's article, exclamation point.
I think we have to be having this conversation.
This has to be a conversation that comes out of the behind the scenes off the record type of stuff to actually publicly having this conversation.
I think Democrats are so afraid of their own shadow at some times that, you know, I saw some comments out there saying, oh, you know, this is only going to be used by Republicans to sow discord among Democrats.
Do you think this conversation is not happening in
some capacity?
I know it
is.
We all know this conversation is happening.
And to stand there and, you know, don't move, otherwise Republicans will notice that Tony Evers is old.
Come on, get rid of it.
You and I both, people have talked to both of us off the record and these conversations have been happening for a year.
or plus all around the state of Wisconsin and in the Democratic Party.
Look, I want to get to this.
Jean, I see you, it'll clear.
I know where Jean is at.
She's a big fan of Governor Tony Evers.
She likes to say he's a work horse, not a show horse.
Jean will get you an hour too, but I want to get your take on this.
We don't have time for the clip, but Ken Martin, the DNC chair of the National Democratic Party,
was caught on tape.
It was released by Politico.
We played it yesterday.
And basically, Ken Martin is saying, I don't know if I want to do this anymore because of all the infighting out in DC.
That to me is just, again, Democrats have a problem nationally right now, in my
opinion.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
It's going great with Ken Martin.
Bang up job there.
And this is part of the issue.
If you can't bring together
If you're thrown off by some disagreement within Democrats, how did you not see that coming?
This is the big tent party.
There's going to be a lot of differing opinions and all of that.
And to not see this type of thing coming is another part of the problem.
Big Democratic convention right the Dells are they part of the a text-to-win contest they're having their convention the Dells this weekend For a lot of long time everybody thought Joseph Peckie was a shoe-in, but then Wickler read the chair current chairman reverse I'm not gonna endorse anybody then he endorses his lieutenant houses come up and there's Once again, Wisconsin Democrats snatching victory or defeat the jaws of victory.
Let's hold the vote on Father's Day boy.
That was a great idea
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I'm looking forward to being, I'm going to be there in the Dells.
covering the vote.
So I'll be there spending part of my father's day covering that vote.
It's going to be a ranked choice vote, which I think is kind of interesting that having the three candidates and having a ranked choice vote.
So that will be interesting.
None of the other officers have contested races.
So like, for example, Sarah Godlowski is running for first vice chair.
She is going to win that race because there is no one else running for first vice chair.
So the actual chair race, it's going to be really interesting to follow.
It'll be interesting to see how impactful which
Wichler's endorsement was, if that may have backfired, how exactly this is all going to play out.
And I'm looking forward to everybody there being super thrilled with me.
I feel so
bad for you.
Yes or no?
Can Wichler still become the DNC chair?
Can Martin be thrown out?
I mean, I would love to see it.
Me too.
Me too.
And finally, no bigger bucks fan than you.
Yanis, staying in Milwaukee or no?
I think he's staying.
Yes, you heard it here first.
Check him out at the recombobulation area.
Mr. Dan Schaefer, thank you so much.
Appreciate it, my friend.
Thanks for having me, Todd.
Be well.
Always a
pleasure.
Up next on the Best of the Todd Alba Show, Friday's conversation with Lisa Hale and Pete Schwabba.
Stay tuned.
Thanks for sticking around for the best of the Todd Alba show this week.
Here is part of Todd's conversation with Lisa Hale and Pete Schwabba on Friday the 13th.
Welcome back to the Taliban show across Wisconsin.
The civic media organ is now 35 minutes past the hour of three o'clock here.
Glad to have you along live from Green Bay, WGBW studios here in downtown Green Bay.
And so we're wrapping up our show for today on the road.
So many great people.
Lisa Hale, the bureau chief of civic media news here in Northeast Wisconsin and also the host of the great program on the weekends.
New WISCO weekend joins us via stream yard and here.
in the Pete Schwabba Studios, the one, the only, the host of Nightlight every evening from six until eight, Pete Schwabba is here.
How are
you?
I'm great, Todd.
Great to be here with you, buddy.
Thanks for inviting me.
I kind of had to come in here anyway, so I don't want, I hope you didn't feel like obligated.
No, I
felt bad asking you to come in early, but it's great to have you here.
No, it's great to be here.
Always, I said in my text to you, if Todd Alba asks, I say, how high?
You're too kind.
You're way too kind, my friend.
Lisa, before we let you go, I just wanted to wrap up, but again, people can hear your great program over the air on WGBW and WISS in Oshkosh every Saturday morning at 8 a.m.
and on Sundays at 11 a.m.
They can also hear it via the Civic Media app if you tune in to GBW or ISS, and of course, at Civic Media.us as well.
What's coming up on the big program this weekend?
Well, as I said, it's flag day.
So our cover story is Fly Me Flag in Green Bay.
We've got a story on the Oshkosh Farmers Market.
We've got some stories on, excuse me, I feel like I have to cough.
We have stories on reckless driving on the Jolly Roger.
That's what Amanda did her commentary on this year, since it's a flag, the Jolly Roger.
And
You know, Pete Schwabba is part of New Wisco Weekend.
Yeah.
I didn't even plan this.
I'm the only one who contributes who got a signing bonus.
I probably shouldn't say that in the air,
but
I'm very proud to be part of the show.
Lisa's phenomenal.
It's a great show.
It really is.
It
really is.
He gives us the classic cinema pick every week, and he does a very good job of tying it to the theme somehow.
I try.
He does
like a patriotic pick this week for flag
was flag.
It was flag day and I was looking for obviously flag football movies, but there aren't many of those out.
So I just went with the actual flag day.
All right.
All right, we're looking forward to nervous anticipation to this.
Lisa, is there anything I have not asked you so far you'd like to share with our audience about New WISCO Weekend or events happening here in Northeast Wisconsin?
Oh, there's so much I could talk about.
But I'd just say tune in to New WISCO Weekend, whether you get it off of a podcast through our website, civicmedia.us, or hear it live on the air.
It's a great magazine show, and I think you'll enjoy it.
I certainly do, and I would encourage all of our listeners to check it out as well.
You and your team do a great job of putting this together.
Thank you for all you do.
I know you've joined us before at election nights as well.
Lisa Haley, you're part of what makes Wisconsin great, being a part of our great news team all across Wisconsin, but also bringing us these great programs on focusing on Wisconsin culture and things that might get overlooked, but we should all be aware of.
So thank you so much, and thank you for taking time to join us today.
Absolutely, I appreciate you and I'm happy to be here.
Thank you, Lisa.
Lisa Hale, everybody.
We'll talk to her soon.
A host of New Wisco, Wisconsin, New Wisco Weekend, pardon me, and also our Northeast Wisconsin Civic Media News Bureau Chief.
Again, here we are in the Shrawaaba Studios in downtown Greece.
I feel like, I almost feel like I'm on night light because I got Pete to my left and you've got your great producer, Conrad, on the other side of the glass, fixing himself a nice gin and tonic before the show, which I think is fantastic.
It's a
little intimidating here, isn't it?
He's into a radio veteran.
No,
I just always feel like I'm at home and it's always a lot of fun.
A, because you have beautiful facilities up here, one of two civic media studios that have a shower.
This one and Hayward.
Oh, Hayward, we have two, by the way.
Well, you're the only one that has two.
We need the showers more here, apparently.
Serious body.
I've
showered at the one in Hayward when I covered the brick and binder, but never showered here.
Interesting.
So maybe I'll shower
after the show.
It's weird.
Like if you were caught showering here, it might seem strange.
Like if I was, if I thought, I'm going to go in there and shower and somebody walked in, I'd probably feel like a little pervy or something.
And why would I?
There's a shower there.
I should be able to use it, but I feel like I can't.
And well, there's no curtain on them.
That's part of it.
That's part of the fun.
That's part of it.
That's part of the fun.
That's part of it.
That's part of it.
That's part of it.
That's part of it.
That's part of it.
That's
part of
it.
That's
part of it.
That's part of it.
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part of it.
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part of it.
That's part of it.
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it.
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part of it.
That's part of it.
That's part of it.
That's part of it.
That's part of it.
Yeah, I think that that was our goal.
And it's always fun when you're on you always make it so much fun.
And I was so busy today beforehand.
I was thinking, what can I do to, you know, to make my entrance or my appearance here rival when you come on my show?
And I just the only thing I was pressed for time.
So I thought black socks and sandals for Father's Day.
Beautiful.
Well done.
I got the black socks.
I don't own sandals.
And I was like, I would have had to go to Goodwill to get a pair of like old time sandals.
My
nieces, they're big thrifters.
Oh, really?
It's all the rage now.
The kids
love
the thrifty.
That's just proof.
My point, Pete Schwabba, you're cool enough you don't need a gimmick.
A schlup like me, it's like the old gypsy.
If you're gonna bump it, bump it with the trumpet.
You gotta have a gimmick if you're gonna get ahead.
That's the
line from Gypsy.
Well,
you're big enough.
You've been an actor.
You've been a writer.
You've been a producer.
You're a host on PBS.
You got your own show here.
You don't need a gimmick, Pete Schwabba.
Well, you're very nice, but I'm also still kind of learning radio, and you're like one of the guys I kind of listen to.
I'm sorry about that.
Going on breaks, and yeah, you steered me wrong a couple of times, but I've, you know, Conrad has my back and rallies.
That's good.
No, I've done all those things, and I've also been a garbage man.
You have?
I have.
My... I do not know this.
Yeah, after my freshman year in college, I got a job with the city of Marinette.
I went home for the summer, and they...
made, uh, they offered me a job as a street surveyor with another college, uh, with a college girl.
So we would measure streets and that was our job.
And here I am.
Here's how stupid young people are.
I'm like, Oh man, I'm going to show them.
I'm a go getter.
And we measured this.
We had every street measured within like two and a half weeks.
The job was supposed to last all summer.
Here's what hard work gets you.
They stuck me on a garbage truck.
They made her do filing, and I had to empty bad meat and milk out of people's garbage cans.
It was disgusting.
It was horrible.
You couldn't spend the summer measuring with a hot chick, and instead, you're stuck in a garbage truck.
I
know what is the matter with me like that's but that's why you have to take You know when older people give you advice folks You have to take it with a grain of salt.
Yeah, because if I had just kind of coasted which is what people do now nobody believes in heart It's like, you know, why am I busting my butt trying to and yeah, it was horrible And then in all the city workers hated me, you know, because there's a college and there's another guy
don't make us look bad, dude
So, yeah, it was it was a brutal summer, but you know what it taught me
not to work hard.
So that something good did come out of it.
I think.
See, that's why I'm a procrastinator, because oftentimes things will just take care of themselves.
You know, some days I wake up and my sister who sometimes has traveled with me for this show, and some days I wish she goes, well, what's your show about today?
I'm like, I'm not sure.
And you wake up, there's not a show, and then something will happen.
I'm like,
now you got a show.
That's the beauty of it.
And if you had worked hard the night before, you wouldn't have been able to watch that three is company marathon on Nick at night.
Exactly,
exactly.
We're talking.
with Pete Schwabba.
He is the host of the Fantastic Program Nightlight every evening on this radio network from six until eight.
Pete, let's talk a little bit of entertainment.
Big week, unfortunately, in bad ways for music.
We lost Sly Stone.
I heard I was listening to Matt Nair and air was a great friend, Jane Matt Nair.
Yeah.
And as she rarely does, but I always do.
She she stumbled over words and she said, we lost Sly Stallone this week.
Like what?
I
didn't hear
that part.
That would have been an easier one to
take.
Yeah, exactly.
But no, Sly Stallone.
And then we lost Brian Wilson, really the voice of the brains, if I can, behind the Beach Boys.
Yeah, that was a bit.
I mean, you know, they were both in their 80s.
It wasn't like they weren't treads.
losses but still losses and it makes you I mean to me I just watched the sly lives documentary recently that guy I mean Sly Stone was such a visionary and I had no idea like I liked his music I thought he was this charismatic guy I knew nothing though about how influential he was to people like Prince and the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Stevie Wonder and just a phenomenal
Talent and then Brian Wilson too that guy was like the voice of a generation so to speak and I didn't another thing I didn't know about Brian Wilson till I was probably my 30s was that he was considered a musical genius like their music sounds so Easy and carefree and it's like oh, yeah, they just sing about no he was a phenomenal musician and absolutely brilliant so
two huge losses in the music world.
It really was.
And I, to your point, I mean, I knew who Brian Wilson was, but I'm a big fan of Anthony Mason at CBS who's done a lot of stuff for CBS Sunday morning.
He's really a mute, a true music entertainment guy.
And they replayed this week and interview that he had done with Brian Wilson some years back.
And I didn't realize how much Paul McCartney in particular, but the Beatles
really respected and looked up to Brian Wilson and they released the Sgt.
Pepper album after the
Beatles.
I just to chime in here, the Beatles had a legendary pioneering production team.
So did the Beach Boys because of Brian Wilson.
Like if you look at the song, Good Vibrations, that one alone took, if I recall, like $70,000 and like eight months of studio recording across the country in four or five different studios to record the one song.
That is
crazy.
When I heard the Paul McCartney looked up to Brian Wilson.
Boy, you know that the guy has legit musical cred.
And that's how I think a lot of people in the music industry looked up to him like that again.
And I didn't know that.
Like I'm not, I know music, I have eclectic taste.
I like a little bit of everything, but I don't know.
I've never done a deep dive until I got into my 30s and some of these people and it's just you really appreciate their contributions.
What would
you say Pete Schwabba?
What's your what's your real house of entertainment?
What genre?
What what part of entertainment do you say boy?
That's the one I really know best or I like to talk about the best on the show or
otherwise
tap dancing.
Really?
I
did not know that.
I wish I
could tap it.
Well, I mean, I started in the business as a stand-up comedian, and then I kind of segued into comedy writing.
So I would say probably comedy, but I also, like growing up, I loved Woody Allen, Albert Brooks, these kind of comedians that wrote their own films, starred in them, and directed them.
And I got to do that with my film, The Godfather of Green Bay.
So certainly not to the degree of success that those guys have, but those were my influences growing up.
I just love.
love the comedy.
I love stand up, sketch.
funny movies and TV.
So that's kind of been what I've done my whole adult life.
And the great thing about Nightlight is I get to talk about those experiences and have some of those people on the show at night to, like you said, help people kind of wind down at the end of the day after we, especially now with what's going on in the world and in our country.
I mean, talking politics could be stressful enough just when you're coming from this side and this person's coming from this side, but now what's happening, it's like you really need an escape, you know?
And so much so Todd, it's so contentious right now.
I almost feel like I shouldn't be talking about some of this stuff.
Like, you know what I mean?
But I think people do need an escape.
I was, I was watching, uh, after midnight, the show that comes on after COVID-19, CBS, I just got canceled actually.
Oh, really?
Oh yeah.
Now I'm playing on
her
name,
Taylor Tomlinson.
And I've heard that she's a spectacular comedian, like a standup in a club.
But I don't want to go into it, but I think the show was ill-conceived.
It was a low budget and just a weird show.
So that's canceled.
But she came on.
I was Monday and she's like that's the last week of our show But she's like she was she was you can tell us the last week because now now she's really good because you say what she really thinks
Yeah,
and she's like, you know, I honestly don't want to do this crap right now Like
I
don't feel like I should be joking about this right when all this stuff is going on right now
But all the more reason you know, you can't I mean I make the mistakes sometimes of looking at
the most toxic like Twitter.
It's just, it's like nobody commenting.
They're all spewing such hate and they don't have the real names.
They're real pictures or anything like that.
So, you know, all the more reason I look at that right before I go to bed and then I need a sitcom or something to wind me down, you know, so.
You can wind down every night with Pete Schwabba and Nightlife.
We'll come back talk with more with him and Conrad we're live from those GBW in downtown Green Bay on the Civic Media Ready Network.
Welcome back to The Todd Albaugh Show on the Civic Media Radio Network.
We
are live in downtown Green Bay.
Thanks for sticking around for this weekend's Best of the Todd Albaugh Show.
We're going to wrap up with the rest of Todd's conversation with Pete Schwabba of Nightlight.
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with the one, the only Pete Schwabbe he is here in his own studio here in Green Bay with this, along with his great producer, Conrad, on the other side of the glass.
Gentlemen, thank you for letting us borrow your studio for a day.
Well, thanks for... Actually, too.
It was turned off.
Well, it's great to have you.
I know you've been here before in time.
It's like you're kind of an old...
pro here when it comes to green,
but
you've done your show everywhere in
the state.
I'd like the bad penny that keeps showing up.
Oh God, not him again.
We were talking a little bit, but in the last segment there, of course, our Pete shows, we stand at areas every night from six until, until eight.
We talk about Taylor Tomlinson a little bit.
And I mean, how is your show?
One of the reasons I love your show and I don't mean to suck up or anything here, but I truly mean this is that
It has a little bit of that Carson vibe to it, a little bit of vibe because it's truly, you have people on, because of your connections in Los Angeles and across Wisconsin, you have legit people and entertainment and not just actors or directors, producers or song comedians, all those people.
And you have the time enough to have real conversations.
And I love that about the show.
You know, I like doing that.
First of all, since I've been doing the show, we've been on for like a year and a half, maybe almost.
And I have been floored at the amount of talent in Wisconsin, whether it's comedically, comedy, music.
Terry Barr comes on every Friday night.
She's on vacation.
Rocker comes on tonight for a bar band Friday night.
And the music I've found just from local artists and the comedy from local comedians, even comedians in Wisconsin, but
specifically because I do the show here in Northeast Wisconsin.
Some great comics.
So it's kind of made it easy.
So yeah, it's fun to have people on from all over the country or people I've known a long time and kind of do a deep dive into, you know, what makes you funny or how do you write your jokes, that kind of stuff.
But it's been great to talk to local, more local artists as well.
I've said this before on the show, but it bears repeating because I love the story.
My stepmom, who is over in Shawnow, and she'll listen
and our show occasionally, but when you joined the network, we had a conversation, I said, oh, Pete Schwabba's gonna be doing this show.
He said, what, Pete Schwabba?
You mean the guy that
does this show
on public television?
And I
said,
yeah.
And
she said, oh,
I wanna listen to that.
So I mean, you're
work there, I think it's really well, and it's great work as well.
Thanks.
Yeah, that was fun.
I watched this show on PBS Wisconsin called Director's Cut.
My friend Steve Burroughs was on.
He had made a film called Chump Change, very funny.
This guy on PBS Wisconsin is interviewing Steve on this show called Director's Cut.
I'm like, this is one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
Like, PBS California doesn't have that, where I lived at the time.
And when I came back, I had made this film called The Godfather of Green Bay, and they...
I sent it to them and I said, hey, I'd love to do your show.
And they said, okay, we'll have you on.
And then the host stepped down and I took over shortly after moving back here.
And when I went on as a guest, I had my pal Lance Barber come on with me who was in the Godfather of Green Bay and he happened to be in the Midwest at the time.
And so we did the show together and it was just a blast.
So I did that for about 10 years and now we still do.
episodes periodically and we do a Wisconsin Film Festival episode, but most of my duties there now are writing the intros for Independent Lens and POV.
So I write them and then I introduce them, but it's not.
Rarely do I get the chance to be funny or say, you know because some of these documentaries are so heavy right and a lot of them are from foreign countries And you got to research everything so it's kind of become a different gig, but it's really fulfilling.
I really like
I got more I went I went to Wisconsin film festival this year Maybe one other time, but you know two people I know John Roach had his great film
very
powerful film Was it alone a road?
Thank you story of Howard Moore and the tragedy of his family going through that car accident and there are friends at just a bit
outside of the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, which I have the DVD in my hot little hands, Sean Hannish and Kelly Call, great story.
The Brewers, that was also at the Wisconsin Film Festival.
And so there's so many Wisconsin based people or people from Wisconsin that do great film.
Oh man, it was, this year in particular was fun because I got to meet John.
He was on director's cut for our episode.
Yeah, Rocha,
fantastic guy.
And that documentary made me proud to have an association with Wisconsin.
Like I didn't go to UW Madison, my brother Andrew did, but
I was like, oh my God, that may, that film, the first part of it made me want to go back in time and go to UW Madison.
And
then it gets very heartfelt at the end and there's a tragedy, but what an incredible story that was.
And then Sean and Kelly, I got to hang out with a couple of times just at the after parties and they were great
guys.
Like I'd had Sean, I
met Sean through you.
You had him on your show.
We had him on Nightlight a couple of times.
He did the popcorn pick of the week, one week.
And then I met Kelly at the film festival and I just really enjoyed talking to those guys.
They're having fun being back in Wisconsin.
And I had fun just meeting them and talking to them about the business.
So it was a
blast.
Conrad, best part of working with Pete on Nightlight or worse, whichever you want.
at the end of
the night when I get to go home.
Wow.
You can't buy that kind of loyalty.
You guys
are
great together.
And that's part of the, you know, you clearly do get along, like to work with each other.
And that's another part of the show that I enjoy as well.
Conrad writes a two hour script every night.
And then I hack the hell out of it.
He gets mad at me and he storms out.
And then we have to get it back together before we go in there.
We've got an actress from the U.P, Stephanie Gerno, who does a lot of horror film acting.
She's on the show at 6.35.
Comedian Steve Hofstetter at 7.05.
And then it's a Bar Band Friday night.
Rocker is filling in for Terry for the third week in a row.
Wow.
Terry Bar will be back next week, but she's taking the well-deserved.
She's off of the
penguins, right?
I think something like that.
I've been tracking her all over the globe because I put a bug on her car.
And she's driving across the world.
She's driving around the world.
But Terry will be back next week.
but she's having a blast.
Well, many thanks, not just to you, but thank you for watching Pete Schwab.
I listened to him tonight from six until eight on nightlight Conrad.
Thanks for all your work.
Last couple of days as well.
Want to shout out to Todd Michaels, the GM here in Green Bay and Oshkosh.
Also to Amanda Eliza, all the other crew here at Green Bay for making this happen this week.
Really appreciate you guys do a great job up here.
And Lisa Hale for coming on the show as well today.
And Zabra is back home.
We'll be back there on Monday.
everyone else at Civic Media who made this show go.
Thank you so much.
And all a big thanks to all of you who are listening and watching.
That's all for this week's Best of This Hot All Boss show.
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And as Todd always says, whatever you believe in, whatever you're fighting for, do not give up.
Keep banging your drum.
We'll see you on Monday.